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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Honor Killing Is Complete: Why Are We Importing More of This to US Shores?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:24:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Donald D. DeHoff</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-516782</link> <dc:creator>Donald D. DeHoff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:53:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-516782</guid> <description>Very Concerned---Sir or Madam, you are either brainwashed or very ignorant of the Muslim/Islamic issues or, you have Muslim &quot;leanings&quot;. Yes, unequivocally, Islam does support all of those extremely barbaric issues. When you say, Islam, you are talking about their Qur&#039;an, and its &quot;trainload&quot;(literally) of other supporting directives and interpretatios. Those documents,as a whole, make our federal tax code look like a first grade primer. Of significat note is Islam&#039;s position on &quot;abrogation&quot;, wherein later &quot;revelations&quot; or conflicting edicts take precident over any previous ones. These later changes(basically Surahs 5 and 9) have, in essence, changed most all(hundreds?)of those loveing, peaceful, understanding and forgiving original revelations. To further confuse the lay person(and many PhDs) the Qur&#039;an state in effect that &quot;one may not change any word, sentence, or meaning&quot;--yet the book itself, makes hundreds of such prohibited changes, and does not remove any of the changed entries. Talk about confusion! What is left is an extremely chaotic and barbaric 7th Century cultural, social, legal, medical and economic &quot;hodgepodge&quot;, thinly cloaked in a veil of a pseudo religion. Without taking &quot;religious sides&quot;, the Islamic religion makes the Christian and Jewish Holy Books, with their many acknowledged errors and forged documents look like a scientific research effort. As I previously stated, there is little excuse for not knowing, at least, the basic facts about this very critical issue. In researching this Muslim/Islamic problem, one is faced with a huge task; the more doors you open, the greater the flood of conflicting informaion. If &quot;Very Conserned&quot; wishes, I will send him(or her)a list of at least a dozen books on the subject---the 200 or so hours with &quot;Google&quot; will have to be at his(or her)expense. NPR(Not Proof Read).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Concerned&#8212;Sir or Madam, you are either brainwashed or very ignorant of the Muslim/Islamic issues or, you have Muslim &#8220;leanings&#8221;. Yes, unequivocally, Islam does support all of those extremely barbaric issues. When you say, Islam, you are talking about their Qur&#8217;an, and its &#8220;trainload&#8221;(literally) of other supporting directives and interpretatios. Those documents,as a whole, make our federal tax code look like a first grade primer. Of significat note is Islam&#8217;s position on &#8220;abrogation&#8221;, wherein later &#8220;revelations&#8221; or conflicting edicts take precident over any previous ones. These later changes(basically Surahs 5 and 9) have, in essence, changed most all(hundreds?)of those loveing, peaceful, understanding and forgiving original revelations. To further confuse the lay person(and many PhDs) the Qur&#8217;an state in effect that &#8220;one may not change any word, sentence, or meaning&#8221;&#8211;yet the book itself, makes hundreds of such prohibited changes, and does not remove any of the changed entries. Talk about confusion! What is left is an extremely chaotic and barbaric 7th Century cultural, social, legal, medical and economic &#8220;hodgepodge&#8221;, thinly cloaked in a veil of a pseudo religion. Without taking &#8220;religious sides&#8221;, the Islamic religion makes the Christian and Jewish Holy Books, with their many acknowledged errors and forged documents look like a scientific research effort. As I previously stated, there is little excuse for not knowing, at least, the basic facts about this very critical issue. In researching this Muslim/Islamic problem, one is faced with a huge task; the more doors you open, the greater the flood of conflicting informaion. If &#8220;Very Conserned&#8221; wishes, I will send him(or her)a list of at least a dozen books on the subject&#8212;the 200 or so hours with &#8220;Google&#8221; will have to be at his(or her)expense. NPR(Not Proof Read).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: VeryConcerned</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-493047</link> <dc:creator>VeryConcerned</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-493047</guid> <description>I&#039;m very shocked at some of these replies.  Surely, everyone understands that Islam doesn&#039;t sanction this sort of action?  It has more to do with where they&#039;re from rather than their religion.  Honor killings also take place in Christian communities throughout the Middle East and in Northern India.  Yemen, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, and Pakistan are among the worst.  Although, Jordan is making strives against honor killings.    In Germany, a Muslim woman was killed by her brother for not staying with her arranged husband and &quot;living like a German.&quot;  A Turkish immigrant was killed for having a relationship outside of her family&#039;s plan.  In Sweden, a 26 year old Kurdish woman was killed by her father.  In London, Heshu Yones was stabbed to death by her Kurdish father when her family heard a love song dedicated to her and thought she had boyfriend.  Ahmet Yildiz, 26, was shot outside a cafe in Istanbul after he represented his country at an international gay conference.  In Lebanon, they make it look like a &quot;accident&quot; or &quot;suicide&quot; so there are no exact numbers.  In Pakistan, honor killings are known locally as &quot;karo-kari&quot;.  Three teenage girls were murdered because they refused to marry their arranged husbands. In India, Punjab, I think, a couple was murdered because they had married out of caste. Another incident in India, a 16 year-old girl was set on fire by her father for chatting to boys.Honor killings generally don&#039;t have anything to do with religion.  In most of the countries where honor killings occur, women have little to no say in anything.  It&#039;s mostly due to the sociological restraints placed upon them.I&#039;m also sick at my stomach to see what some of you have said.  I&#039;m neither liberal, nor conservative.  If someone makes a logical argument, I&#039;m forced to concede... But what you&#039;re spouting is schmutz.  It&#039;s worse than yellow jounalism.  The United States and Canada were founded by immigrants.  My fore-fathers and -mothers were Irish, Cherokee, Apache, Russian, German, and my grandfather&#039;s great grandmother was born a slave but died a free woman.  Where&#039;s your family from?  What&#039;s your heritage?  What if you had to go back in time and live in Ireland during the early 1800s when the Brittish were taxing the crap out of them?  When they were starving, really starving?  What about when the Nazi regime came to power and you just happened to be Jewish?  Your relgion marked you for death?  What if you were taken to a country and forced into bondage, forced to work your life away just because your skin was different color?If want Americans &quot;real&quot; Americans to live in America, then about 3 percent of our actual population gets to stay and the other 97% needs to gtfo.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very shocked at some of these replies.  Surely, everyone understands that Islam doesn&#8217;t sanction this sort of action?  It has more to do with where they&#8217;re from rather than their religion.  Honor killings also take place in Christian communities throughout the Middle East and in Northern India.  Yemen, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, and Pakistan are among the worst.  Although, Jordan is making strives against honor killings.    In Germany, a Muslim woman was killed by her brother for not staying with her arranged husband and &#8220;living like a German.&#8221;  A Turkish immigrant was killed for having a relationship outside of her family&#8217;s plan.  In Sweden, a 26 year old Kurdish woman was killed by her father.  In London, Heshu Yones was stabbed to death by her Kurdish father when her family heard a love song dedicated to her and thought she had boyfriend.  Ahmet Yildiz, 26, was shot outside a cafe in Istanbul after he represented his country at an international gay conference.  In Lebanon, they make it look like a &#8220;accident&#8221; or &#8220;suicide&#8221; so there are no exact numbers.  In Pakistan, honor killings are known locally as &#8220;karo-kari&#8221;.  Three teenage girls were murdered because they refused to marry their arranged husbands. In India, Punjab, I think, a couple was murdered because they had married out of caste. Another incident in India, a 16 year-old girl was set on fire by her father for chatting to boys.</p><p>Honor killings generally don&#8217;t have anything to do with religion.  In most of the countries where honor killings occur, women have little to no say in anything.  It&#8217;s mostly due to the sociological restraints placed upon them.</p><p>I&#8217;m also sick at my stomach to see what some of you have said.  I&#8217;m neither liberal, nor conservative.  If someone makes a logical argument, I&#8217;m forced to concede&#8230; But what you&#8217;re spouting is schmutz.  It&#8217;s worse than yellow jounalism.  The United States and Canada were founded by immigrants.  My fore-fathers and -mothers were Irish, Cherokee, Apache, Russian, German, and my grandfather&#8217;s great grandmother was born a slave but died a free woman.  Where&#8217;s your family from?  What&#8217;s your heritage?  What if you had to go back in time and live in Ireland during the early 1800s when the Brittish were taxing the crap out of them?  When they were starving, really starving?  What about when the Nazi regime came to power and you just happened to be Jewish?  Your relgion marked you for death?  What if you were taken to a country and forced into bondage, forced to work your life away just because your skin was different color?</p><p>If want Americans &#8220;real&#8221; Americans to live in America, then about 3 percent of our actual population gets to stay and the other 97% needs to gtfo.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anna</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-382872</link> <dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-382872</guid> <description>This is total BS. Come on if a father can kill his own child then he is no longer human. He becomes a knuckle walker. what a joke of a &quot;people&quot; and &quot;religion&quot; they digust me and they should stay in their own country if they can&#039;t live like civil people. Respect above all things, they think that if people respect them that is more important than keeping their kids alive. What idiots. I thank G-d I was not born into that killing cult.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is total BS. Come on if a father can kill his own child then he is no longer human. He becomes a knuckle walker. what a joke of a &#8220;people&#8221; and &#8220;religion&#8221; they digust me and they should stay in their own country if they can&#8217;t live like civil people. Respect above all things, they think that if people respect them that is more important than keeping their kids alive. What idiots. I thank G-d I was not born into that killing cult.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Donald D. DeHoff(Major-USAF-Ret)</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-286973</link> <dc:creator>Donald D. DeHoff(Major-USAF-Ret)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:50:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-286973</guid> <description>Honor killings are but a very small part of the overall Muslim problem. I highly recommend that everyone read Gabriel&#039;s book, &quot;They Must Be Stopped&quot;. You will come away frightened but well informed and better prepared to deal with what I consider to be the most important problem facing our country today(next to Obama, which I also believe is &quot;one and the same&quot;. In today&#039;s computer world of Google, Wikipedia(sic), On Line, etc., there is little excuse for not knowing what is going on in today&#039;s world. I continue to be amazed at how naive most Americans are concerning the Muslim religion, and how the Islamic people distort their own &quot;good book&quot;--Their God, as they perceive him, is not &quot;loving and forgiving&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honor killings are but a very small part of the overall Muslim problem. I highly recommend that everyone read Gabriel&#8217;s book, &#8220;They Must Be Stopped&#8221;. You will come away frightened but well informed and better prepared to deal with what I consider to be the most important problem facing our country today(next to Obama, which I also believe is &#8220;one and the same&#8221;. In today&#8217;s computer world of Google, Wikipedia(sic), On Line, etc., there is little excuse for not knowing what is going on in today&#8217;s world. I continue to be amazed at how naive most Americans are concerning the Muslim religion, and how the Islamic people distort their own &#8220;good book&#8221;&#8211;Their God, as they perceive him, is not &#8220;loving and forgiving&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bob A.</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-128650</link> <dc:creator>Bob A.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:48:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-128650</guid> <description>I just have a question. He didn&#039;t slit her throat, only used a car. Is he one of those &quot;moderate muslims&quot; Obumbo keeps talking about? Just asking.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have a question. He didn&#8217;t slit her throat, only used a car. Is he one of those &#8220;moderate muslims&#8221; Obumbo keeps talking about? Just asking.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BIG IRISH</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-127398</link> <dc:creator>BIG IRISH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:15:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-127398</guid> <description>Ali-Gater...I agree with you a 100percent - I dont want these slime bags in Canada either...I would suggest however, lets not stop ALL immigration for 10 years but STOP all immigration from islamic countries and concentrate on those countries which do not hate us and derive great pleasure in flying OUR planes into OUR buildings...if they want to go see allah and mo (piss-be-on-him) let them do it in their own lovely countries...we dont want them here!...God Bless America - Canada.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali-Gater&#8230;I agree with you a 100percent &#8211; I dont want these slime bags in Canada either&#8230;I would suggest however, lets not stop ALL immigration for 10 years but STOP all immigration from islamic countries and concentrate on those countries which do not hate us and derive great pleasure in flying OUR planes into OUR buildings&#8230;if they want to go see allah and mo (piss-be-on-him) let them do it in their own lovely countries&#8230;we dont want them here!&#8230;God Bless America &#8211; Canada.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ali-gater</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-127392</link> <dc:creator>Ali-gater</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:06:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-127392</guid> <description>If this was a Christian father, it would be a hate-crime, because don&#039;t you know that it&#039;s Christianity that is the big, bad evil religion, while Islam is the &quot;Religion of Peace&quot;?  Or at least that&#039;s how the libtards like to spin it.  They basically promote other cultures (even the sick, twisted ones) and religions over our own, and try and make us ashamed of our values.  Because we&#039;re &quot;racist, imperialistic AmeriKKKan pigs&quot; when we don&#039;t want this type of garbage imported to the U.S., so that&#039;s why it&#039;s allowed to continue.  Well, that and the fact that we have a Muslim President (I don&#039;t care what anyone says, he is at the LEAST, a Muslim sympathizer).I truly worry about the fate of this country if this is the caliber of the immigrants nowadays.  But it&#039;s really all a ploy by the left to divide us all by ethnic/racial/religious/etc. lines so they can win votes by cultivating a culture of victimhood perpetuated by &quot;the white man&quot;.  It&#039;s so transparent and pitiful that you&#039;d think people would see through it, but alas it seems to work still.  I say stop ALL immigration for at least 10 years until these immigrants assimilate, and if they refuse, KICK THEM THE F*CK OUT!  Problem solved.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this was a Christian father, it would be a hate-crime, because don&#8217;t you know that it&#8217;s Christianity that is the big, bad evil religion, while Islam is the &#8220;Religion of Peace&#8221;?  Or at least that&#8217;s how the libtards like to spin it.  They basically promote other cultures (even the sick, twisted ones) and religions over our own, and try and make us ashamed of our values.  Because we&#8217;re &#8220;racist, imperialistic AmeriKKKan pigs&#8221; when we don&#8217;t want this type of garbage imported to the U.S., so that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s allowed to continue.  Well, that and the fact that we have a Muslim President (I don&#8217;t care what anyone says, he is at the LEAST, a Muslim sympathizer).</p><p>I truly worry about the fate of this country if this is the caliber of the immigrants nowadays.  But it&#8217;s really all a ploy by the left to divide us all by ethnic/racial/religious/etc. lines so they can win votes by cultivating a culture of victimhood perpetuated by &#8220;the white man&#8221;.  It&#8217;s so transparent and pitiful that you&#8217;d think people would see through it, but alas it seems to work still.  I say stop ALL immigration for at least 10 years until these immigrants assimilate, and if they refuse, KICK THEM THE F*CK OUT!  Problem solved.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RJ</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-127212</link> <dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:36:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-127212</guid> <description>Seems to me a parent should love his/her children above and beyond himself/herself.  These &quot;honor&quot; killings or acts to &quot;cleanse&quot; the family of moral impurities smack of nothing more than narcissism hidden within false reasons, beliefs and other stupid statements.Then again, look at how many people clap when listening to that great prophet, the right Rev. Jeremiah Wright!  Perhaps it all comes down to which end of the sword one finds himself, perhaps.I always like those religions which condition its believers right from the very beginning to be obedient, like getting down on your hand and knees four times a day...every day...or is it five times?  I don&#039;t really care the number, just know that that young and pretty girl lost her life to the one person she should have counted on to do whatever to save her life.  Dad is sadistic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me a parent should love his/her children above and beyond himself/herself.  These &#8220;honor&#8221; killings or acts to &#8220;cleanse&#8221; the family of moral impurities smack of nothing more than narcissism hidden within false reasons, beliefs and other stupid statements.</p><p>Then again, look at how many people clap when listening to that great prophet, the right Rev. Jeremiah Wright!  Perhaps it all comes down to which end of the sword one finds himself, perhaps.</p><p>I always like those religions which condition its believers right from the very beginning to be obedient, like getting down on your hand and knees four times a day&#8230;every day&#8230;or is it five times?  I don&#8217;t really care the number, just know that that young and pretty girl lost her life to the one person she should have counted on to do whatever to save her life.  Dad is sadistic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mrrabbit</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-126941</link> <dc:creator>mrrabbit</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:50:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-126941</guid> <description>I always find it interesting that the fathers, and occasionally the mothers who perform these &quot;honor killings&quot;...after the act, then turn around and run.If they are so convinced that they are right and that the killing is &quot;honorable&quot;...why run?If they are so right and sure in their personal convictions - they should be sticking around to answer any and all questions brought against them.Clearly its about something else...jealousy, power, etc.=8-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it interesting that the fathers, and occasionally the mothers who perform these &#8220;honor killings&#8221;&#8230;after the act, then turn around and run.</p><p>If they are so convinced that they are right and that the killing is &#8220;honorable&#8221;&#8230;why run?</p><p>If they are so right and sure in their personal convictions &#8211; they should be sticking around to answer any and all questions brought against them.</p><p>Clearly its about something else&#8230;jealousy, power, etc.</p><p>=8-)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BIG IRISH</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11454/the-honor-killing-is-complete-why-are-we-importing-more-of-this-to-us-shores/comment-page-1/#comment-126721</link> <dc:creator>BIG IRISH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=11454#comment-126721</guid> <description>The very least we have to do is  curtail muslim immigration in Canada and the U.S...they will not come to here and blend into our way of life - they hate us!!! we are the &quot;great satan&#124;&quot;...if islam is so F####N great, peaceful, tolerant (bla-blah-blah) they can and should stay in the rathholes they slither from...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very least we have to do is  curtail muslim immigration in Canada and the U.S&#8230;they will not come to here and blend into our way of life &#8211; they hate us!!! we are the &#8220;great satan|&#8221;&#8230;if islam is so F####N great, peaceful, tolerant (bla-blah-blah) they can and should stay in the rathholes they slither from&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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