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	<title>Comments on: E-Mail Exchange:  Why I Didn&#8217;t Post My Take on ObamaCare Vote, But Here it is</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie, you are correct: all but about 30 or so Republicans have remained consistently conservative on major (and minor) legislation for the last 10+ years.

My Rep. Mike Pence led and insurgent band of House Conservatives (&quot;C&quot; First not &quot;Republican&quot;) that almost defeated that &quot;Obamacare #1&quot;.

God Bless.

&lt;strong&gt;JS:  I think you meant &quot;only&quot; 30 or so Republicans have remained consistently conservative on major (and minor) legislation for the last 10+ years.  Right?  DS&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie, you are correct: all but about 30 or so Republicans have remained consistently conservative on major (and minor) legislation for the last 10+ years.</p>
<p>My Rep. Mike Pence led and insurgent band of House Conservatives (&#8221;C&#8221; First not &#8220;Republican&#8221;) that almost defeated that &#8220;Obamacare #1&#8243;.</p>
<p>God Bless.</p>
<p><strong>JS:  I think you meant &#8220;only&#8221; 30 or so Republicans have remained consistently conservative on major (and minor) legislation for the last 10+ years.  Right?  DS</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Little Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really a con-job by the Dems and Republicans.  One reason the Republicans virtually all voted against this bill is, as you said, that they knew it couldn&#039;t be defeated.  If their votes really had had the potential of making a difference, some of them would have voted their hearts and voted &#039;for&#039;.  I hear almost no talk about the worst aspect of this bill, the socialist/commie redistribution of income to the 50&#039;5 who don&#039;t pay taxes, and, for the most part, sponge off of hard-working Americans.  Any social welfare scheme virtually is guaranteed 50% of the vote, i.e. the have-nots.  Of course they won&#039;t vote against getting handouts.  Bad is it is to add to the deficit, the socialist redistribution of income is worse.  No one in Congress is discussing that.

I&#039;m going dizzy looking at the stimulus bills, the bailouts, the never-ending handouts to AIG, GMAC and Fannie Mae.  The Republicans have never mounted a serious, principled opposition to these handouts.

It means nothing that the House Bill is DOA in the Senate.  The only thing that will mean anything is if the Senate passes nothing, and I&#039;m not aware of anyone in Congress calling for that.

Even if the Senate, hope against hope, passes something much more conservative, it will shed its conservative veneer in conference.  How can anyone take seriously the assertion that things will be OK because the Senate will pass something more conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really a con-job by the Dems and Republicans.  One reason the Republicans virtually all voted against this bill is, as you said, that they knew it couldn&#8217;t be defeated.  If their votes really had had the potential of making a difference, some of them would have voted their hearts and voted &#8216;for&#8217;.  I hear almost no talk about the worst aspect of this bill, the socialist/commie redistribution of income to the 50&#8242;5 who don&#8217;t pay taxes, and, for the most part, sponge off of hard-working Americans.  Any social welfare scheme virtually is guaranteed 50% of the vote, i.e. the have-nots.  Of course they won&#8217;t vote against getting handouts.  Bad is it is to add to the deficit, the socialist redistribution of income is worse.  No one in Congress is discussing that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going dizzy looking at the stimulus bills, the bailouts, the never-ending handouts to AIG, GMAC and Fannie Mae.  The Republicans have never mounted a serious, principled opposition to these handouts.</p>
<p>It means nothing that the House Bill is DOA in the Senate.  The only thing that will mean anything is if the Senate passes nothing, and I&#8217;m not aware of anyone in Congress calling for that.</p>
<p>Even if the Senate, hope against hope, passes something much more conservative, it will shed its conservative veneer in conference.  How can anyone take seriously the assertion that things will be OK because the Senate will pass something more conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: seahawker</title>
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		<dc:creator>seahawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats needed is another conservative revolution in this country and we&#039;re running out of time. We need to go state to state in search of our guy or gal who will push the our agenda starting with replacing each state congressman and senator till we have the force needed to be rid of these liberal gangs running us into the ground with teir back room deals with the Arab community, and femmenization of our whole society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats needed is another conservative revolution in this country and we&#8217;re running out of time. We need to go state to state in search of our guy or gal who will push the our agenda starting with replacing each state congressman and senator till we have the force needed to be rid of these liberal gangs running us into the ground with teir back room deals with the Arab community, and femmenization of our whole society.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smile - sorry, but there isn&#039;t much to argue about. The Republicans are as bad as the Dummycrats. They both play their expensive games and drain the lifeblood out of the country. Neither knows how to run the country effectively. They both think that our earned wages are theirs to do with as they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smile &#8211; sorry, but there isn&#8217;t much to argue about. The Republicans are as bad as the Dummycrats. They both play their expensive games and drain the lifeblood out of the country. Neither knows how to run the country effectively. They both think that our earned wages are theirs to do with as they please.</p>
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		<title>By: NormanF</title>
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		<dc:creator>NormanF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans are Democrat Lite. They just want to get to the same destination more slowly than the Democrats do but they&#039;ll still get there. So where&#039;s the principled objection to Big Government? The NRO crowd pushed it to bail out the banks and Wall Street and they turn around and say Joe Plumber can&#039;t loot the government? Uh huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans are Democrat Lite. They just want to get to the same destination more slowly than the Democrats do but they&#8217;ll still get there. So where&#8217;s the principled objection to Big Government? The NRO crowd pushed it to bail out the banks and Wall Street and they turn around and say Joe Plumber can&#8217;t loot the government? Uh huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many Republicans are going to skate into Congress in the next few years on the promise of &quot;Fixing&quot; Washington?
&quot;Vote for me, and we&#039;ll roust those dirty Dems and weaken Obama&#039;s power! You can trust me because I&#039;m an outsider!&quot;
...until they get there, and are plugged into the graft machine.
 I wrote a thing a few years ago promoting the idea of dropping all pretense, and setting a price list: If you want to be a Representative, bid on the position. Ten million dollars of Your Own money, NOT taxpayer money goes in the kitty, the Treasury.
If you aspire to Senator, fifty million. President? Two hundred million per election. If you won&#039;t pay it, someone else will. It&#039;s called a free market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many Republicans are going to skate into Congress in the next few years on the promise of &#8220;Fixing&#8221; Washington?<br />
&#8220;Vote for me, and we&#8217;ll roust those dirty Dems and weaken Obama&#8217;s power! You can trust me because I&#8217;m an outsider!&#8221;<br />
&#8230;until they get there, and are plugged into the graft machine.<br />
 I wrote a thing a few years ago promoting the idea of dropping all pretense, and setting a price list: If you want to be a Representative, bid on the position. Ten million dollars of Your Own money, NOT taxpayer money goes in the kitty, the Treasury.<br />
If you aspire to Senator, fifty million. President? Two hundred million per election. If you won&#8217;t pay it, someone else will. It&#8217;s called a free market.</p>
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		<title>By: lindapolver</title>
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		<dc:creator>lindapolver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie! thanks as always, I was looking forward to reading your take on this. I was up most of the night watching in horror this whole thing on c span.

illegal immigrants are excluded from paying the punitive charges and fees for opting out of the healthcare bill IF IT passes the senate into law.

these charges range from 1500 bucks to $250 to jail time. in a time when real unemployment is possibly 15% to 20%, not 10.2%.

for those who are not working, cannot find work, refuse to opt in or have some other rationale for not wanting manadatory gov&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie! thanks as always, I was looking forward to reading your take on this. I was up most of the night watching in horror this whole thing on c span.</p>
<p>illegal immigrants are excluded from paying the punitive charges and fees for opting out of the healthcare bill IF IT passes the senate into law.</p>
<p>these charges range from 1500 bucks to $250 to jail time. in a time when real unemployment is possibly 15% to 20%, not 10.2%.</p>
<p>for those who are not working, cannot find work, refuse to opt in or have some other rationale for not wanting manadatory gov&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: NormanF</title>
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		<dc:creator>NormanF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie, agreed. Republicans don&#039;t have credibility on taxes, spending and entitlements. They&#039;re hypocrites. They simply want to steal a smaller amount of money from the American people&#039;s wallets than the Democrats do. That doesn&#039;t diminish the crime. It only compounds it. Any one who thinks that the GOP will repeal Obamacare is in denial - it will never happen. If they can&#039;t stop it now they will never be able to stop it.

That&#039;s the bottom line and every one knows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie, agreed. Republicans don&#8217;t have credibility on taxes, spending and entitlements. They&#8217;re hypocrites. They simply want to steal a smaller amount of money from the American people&#8217;s wallets than the Democrats do. That doesn&#8217;t diminish the crime. It only compounds it. Any one who thinks that the GOP will repeal Obamacare is in denial &#8211; it will never happen. If they can&#8217;t stop it now they will never be able to stop it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the bottom line and every one knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so refreshing to read thoughts from someone who writes clearly, who tries not to be &quot;pc&quot; at all.  I will forgive you being a lawyer only because you seem to have added to your CV many other interests.  I found your site by accident, yet now, it is no accident that I come to it every day!

Thanks for sharing and being so honest in your views.  It&#039;s nice to know I am not alone out here in the jungle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so refreshing to read thoughts from someone who writes clearly, who tries not to be &#8220;pc&#8221; at all.  I will forgive you being a lawyer only because you seem to have added to your CV many other interests.  I found your site by accident, yet now, it is no accident that I come to it every day!</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing and being so honest in your views.  It&#8217;s nice to know I am not alone out here in the jungle!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Porrazzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Porrazzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BIAS ALERT!  AP reports Health Scare bill may have NOWHERE TO GO in Senate. 


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9BRIOG82


&quot;The glow from a health care triumph faded quickly for President Barack Obama on Sunday as Democrats realized the bill they fought so hard to pass in the House has nowhere to go in the Senate.&quot;


UGH!  Especially if my state&#039;s Senator Joe &quot;Mr. Sometimes Independent when he is really caucusing for The Illuminati&quot; Lieberman has anything to say about this.



&quot;If a government plan is part of the deal, &quot;as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote,&quot; said Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Connecticut independent whose vote Democrats need to overcome GOP filibusters.&quot;



Lieberman, THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO SAVE FACE!  LIVE UP TO THIS FILIBUSTER PROMISE OR YOU WILL BE HEARING ME AND YOUR EMPLOYER&#039;S SAY YOU&#039;RE FIRED!  You know I guess I might as well say it now.  Because you politicos and your WWE/ECW/TNA/WCW politics say one thing, and something else comes out your asses.  You say you won&#039;t do something then YOU GO AHEAD AND DO IT AND VICE VERSA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIAS ALERT!  AP reports Health Scare bill may have NOWHERE TO GO in Senate. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9BRIOG82" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9BRIOG82</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The glow from a health care triumph faded quickly for President Barack Obama on Sunday as Democrats realized the bill they fought so hard to pass in the House has nowhere to go in the Senate.&#8221;</p>
<p>UGH!  Especially if my state&#8217;s Senator Joe &#8220;Mr. Sometimes Independent when he is really caucusing for The Illuminati&#8221; Lieberman has anything to say about this.</p>
<p>&#8220;If a government plan is part of the deal, &#8220;as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote,&#8221; said Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Connecticut independent whose vote Democrats need to overcome GOP filibusters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lieberman, THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO SAVE FACE!  LIVE UP TO THIS FILIBUSTER PROMISE OR YOU WILL BE HEARING ME AND YOUR EMPLOYER&#8217;S SAY YOU&#8217;RE FIRED!  You know I guess I might as well say it now.  Because you politicos and your WWE/ECW/TNA/WCW politics say one thing, and something else comes out your asses.  You say you won&#8217;t do something then YOU GO AHEAD AND DO IT AND VICE VERSA!</p>
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