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> <channel><title>Comments on: HUH?!:  Geller &#8220;Anti-&#8221;Honor Killing Rally Features Mother Who Conspired to Kill Daughters</title> <atom:link href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:36:56 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Wanna Lose a Debate Against Islam? Invite Robert Spencer &#124; Debbie Schlussel</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-398897</link> <dc:creator>Wanna Lose a Debate Against Islam? Invite Robert Spencer &#124; Debbie Schlussel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:33:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-398897</guid> <description>[...] salesman who worked for her and was tipping off police to her and her then-hubby&#8217;s scams), shamelessly invited a mother who helped honor kill her two daughters to a rally they were holding.  It&#8217;s much more than that, which I&#8217;ll revisit at another time.  But yesterday, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] salesman who worked for her and was tipping off police to her and her then-hubby&#8217;s scams), shamelessly invited a mother who helped honor kill her two daughters to a rally they were holding.  It&#8217;s much more than that, which I&#8217;ll revisit at another time.  But yesterday, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shy Goy</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-308353</link> <dc:creator>Shy Goy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:33:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-308353</guid> <description>Wow...I missed much of this when it allwent down and can&#039;t recall why iwas MIA.Debbie stands out as the real deal--and sadly PG and RS are shown for complicit cronies in opportunistic omission of principles here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;I missed much of this when it allwent down and can&#8217;t recall why iwas MIA.</p><p>Debbie stands out as the real deal&#8211;and sadly PG and RS are shown for complicit cronies in opportunistic omission of principles here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hesperado</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-276772</link> <dc:creator>Hesperado</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-276772</guid> <description>Spencer&#039;s first comment (12/16/09 5:28 pm) exemplifies a common and frequent ploy he &quot;retails&quot;, and the subsequent comment by a supporter (&quot;Drekken&quot;, and typical of Spencer supporters) echoes this ploy.And that ploy is that whenever anyone criticizes Spencer (or now it&#039;s Spencer &amp; Geller), Spencer pulls out the &quot;but we are doing important work&quot; card, which in effect attempts to put the blame on the critic -- no matter what his substantive criticism may be -- for &quot;enabling&quot; the forces who are attacking the anti-Islam movement.Effectively, this puts Spencer and Geller beyond criticism, for any substantive criticism levelled their way becomes automatically identified with an &quot;attack&quot; that &quot;enables&quot; the enemy.This is at best an unhealthy way for an organization or movement to conduct itself, and at worst is a recipe for the development of irrational demagoguery -- and somewhere in between best and worst here is the fact that there may be certain issues that should be adjudicated out in the air and sunshine of public discussion because they may affect the ongoing progress of the anti-Islam movement in which everyone -- illustrious book-publishing quasi-leaders and shabby civilians alike -- have an exigent stake.The position effectively taken in this regard by Spencer and his supporters -- i.e., we are to trust our quasi-leaders in deciding what&#039;s best for us and in deciding what thorny internal disputes should be aired out in the sunshine of public discussion (so far only one has been aired out in full -- the Charles Johnson Catastrophe) -- similarly reflects an attitude unhealthy for the movement.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer&#8217;s first comment (12/16/09 5:28 pm) exemplifies a common and frequent ploy he &#8220;retails&#8221;, and the subsequent comment by a supporter (&#8220;Drekken&#8221;, and typical of Spencer supporters) echoes this ploy.</p><p>And that ploy is that whenever anyone criticizes Spencer (or now it&#8217;s Spencer &amp; Geller), Spencer pulls out the &#8220;but we are doing important work&#8221; card, which in effect attempts to put the blame on the critic &#8212; no matter what his substantive criticism may be &#8212; for &#8220;enabling&#8221; the forces who are attacking the anti-Islam movement.</p><p>Effectively, this puts Spencer and Geller beyond criticism, for any substantive criticism levelled their way becomes automatically identified with an &#8220;attack&#8221; that &#8220;enables&#8221; the enemy.</p><p>This is at best an unhealthy way for an organization or movement to conduct itself, and at worst is a recipe for the development of irrational demagoguery &#8212; and somewhere in between best and worst here is the fact that there may be certain issues that should be adjudicated out in the air and sunshine of public discussion because they may affect the ongoing progress of the anti-Islam movement in which everyone &#8212; illustrious book-publishing quasi-leaders and shabby civilians alike &#8212; have an exigent stake.</p><p>The position effectively taken in this regard by Spencer and his supporters &#8212; i.e., we are to trust our quasi-leaders in deciding what&#8217;s best for us and in deciding what thorny internal disputes should be aired out in the sunshine of public discussion (so far only one has been aired out in full &#8212; the Charles Johnson Catastrophe) &#8212; similarly reflects an attitude unhealthy for the movement.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CPAC Tea Party Launch Event Hosted By Anti-Semitic, Israel-Hating, Tax-Defrauding Islamic Terrorist Buddy</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-220389</link> <dc:creator>CPAC Tea Party Launch Event Hosted By Anti-Semitic, Israel-Hating, Tax-Defrauding Islamic Terrorist Buddy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:59:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-220389</guid> <description>[...] promoting her shrieking, and his bizarre lap-dogging of her shrieking.  When it comes to jihad, she&#8217;s already displayed her true colors to us.  Gee, I wonder how much of  Geller&#8217;s and her then-hubby&#8217;s car loan fraud business [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] promoting her shrieking, and his bizarre lap-dogging of her shrieking.  When it comes to jihad, she&#8217;s already displayed her true colors to us.  Gee, I wonder how much of  Geller&#8217;s and her then-hubby&#8217;s car loan fraud business [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PIBill</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-141732</link> <dc:creator>PIBill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:40:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-141732</guid> <description>...There’s that old saying: “Ya lay down with dogs; ya get up with fleas.”...http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/pamela-geller-of-atlas-shrugs-blog-poster-girl-for-eurofascists-post-by-little-green-footballs/http://jezebel.com/364296/meet-bikini-blogger-pamela-geller-she-is-like-ann-coulter-meets-the-real-housewives-she-is-amazinghttp://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jeff-dunetz-writes-yid-with-a-lid-he-shills-for-blogger-pamela-geller-of-atlas-shrugs-both-lived-in-the-same-section-of-long-island/
Looks the war has already started...  just what these people want... attention rather than truth.Love you, DS! Shabbat Shalom.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;There’s that old saying: “Ya lay down with dogs; ya get up with fleas.”&#8230;</p><p><a
href="http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/pamela-geller-of-atlas-shrugs-blog-poster-girl-for-eurofascists-post-by-little-green-footballs/" rel="nofollow">http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/pamela-geller-of-atlas-shrugs-blog-poster-girl-for-eurofascists-post-by-little-green-footballs/</a></p><p><a
href="http://jezebel.com/364296/meet-bikini-blogger-pamela-geller-she-is-like-ann-coulter-meets-the-real-housewives-she-is-amazing" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/364296/meet-bikini-blogger-pamela-geller-she-is-like-ann-coulter-meets-the-real-housewives-she-is-amazing</a></p><p><a
href="http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jeff-dunetz-writes-yid-with-a-lid-he-shills-for-blogger-pamela-geller-of-atlas-shrugs-both-lived-in-the-same-section-of-long-island/" rel="nofollow">http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jeff-dunetz-writes-yid-with-a-lid-he-shills-for-blogger-pamela-geller-of-atlas-shrugs-both-lived-in-the-same-section-of-long-island/</a></p><p>Looks the war has already started&#8230;  just what these people want&#8230; attention rather than truth.</p><p>Love you, DS! Shabbat Shalom.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eyewitness</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-140400</link> <dc:creator>Eyewitness</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-140400</guid> <description>Sounds like Pamela was sick of Gail Gartrell getting the spotlight.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Pamela was sick of Gail Gartrell getting the spotlight.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sick of gail gartrell</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-140057</link> <dc:creator>Sick of gail gartrell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:25:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-140057</guid> <description>Is this arguement about helpng rifqa or is it about gail gartrell losing her spotlight!!  Gail is not the only one of the aunts who has helped in the case of the Said sisters&#039; murder she is the only one who has stated over and over again that she was the first to call it an honor killing which she was NOT!!!  Gail has been threatend by the brother of Amina and Sarah. Has anyone read what Gail has said about him, He is grieving the loss of his faily and his life and to be called a retard and a murderer was all he could take.Gail talks so horible about Tissie marrying a man 15 yrs older than her while she was only 15 when in fact Gail&#039;s husband is the one who married them and gail herself and her daughters were in the wedding party. Ms Gartrll do you only have morals when it suits you? Gail has done many interviews and loves to be in the spotlight I only have one question was the rally to save the life of a young girl or was it way for gail to get on TV again? Tissie was really only trying to stop another murder,What is your motive for all the bashing e-mails? Also you have a terminally Ill husband who is dying when Tissie called you to check on him why did you cry and tell tissie how proud you are of her and how much you love her,again wanting the spotlight what do you really want Ms gartrell an award just let us know where to send it if it will shut you up !GAIL GARTELL LOVES THE SPOTLIGHT AND WILL FIGHT TO KEEP IT!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this arguement about helpng rifqa or is it about gail gartrell losing her spotlight!!  Gail is not the only one of the aunts who has helped in the case of the Said sisters&#8217; murder she is the only one who has stated over and over again that she was the first to call it an honor killing which she was NOT!!!  Gail has been threatend by the brother of Amina and Sarah. Has anyone read what Gail has said about him, He is grieving the loss of his faily and his life and to be called a retard and a murderer was all he could take.Gail talks so horible about Tissie marrying a man 15 yrs older than her while she was only 15 when in fact Gail&#8217;s husband is the one who married them and gail herself and her daughters were in the wedding party. Ms Gartrll do you only have morals when it suits you? Gail has done many interviews and loves to be in the spotlight I only have one question was the rally to save the life of a young girl or was it way for gail to get on TV again? Tissie was really only trying to stop another murder,What is your motive for all the bashing e-mails? Also you have a terminally Ill husband who is dying when Tissie called you to check on him why did you cry and tell tissie how proud you are of her and how much you love her,again wanting the spotlight what do you really want Ms gartrell an award just let us know where to send it if it will shut you up !GAIL GARTELL LOVES THE SPOTLIGHT AND WILL FIGHT TO KEEP IT!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eyewitness</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-140053</link> <dc:creator>Eyewitness</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:14:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-140053</guid> <description>So it seems that Pamela has now shown up as &quot;WrongIdeas&quot; sockpuppet. Nice shift from third to first person there, Pamela.It isn&#039;t exactly clear that Pamela or Robert have done anything than media whore this issue. Were they intimately involved in the legal defense of Rifqa? No. Instead, Pamela has Robert and Andy Bostom attack Rifqa&#039;s actual attorney, John Stemberger. Where they involved in the political effort to keep Rifqa in Florida? No. That was Tom Trento of the Florida Security Council working behind the scenes, who the Pamela crew have also publicly attacked. Are they working with Rifqa&#039;s Ohio legal defense team? No. Had they been they would have been aware much sooner that the dependency charges had been dropped and the hearing rescheduled. Are they working with the activists in Ohio working behind the scenes on Rifqa&#039;s behalf? No. In fact, every single speaker at their &quot;protest&quot; was from out of town.Instead, Pamela and Robert hurt Rifqa&#039;s cause considerably when they showed up in Orlando -- unannounced -- and barged their way into Tom Trento&#039;s press conference and created the media side show that the media had been hoping for. Instead of changing the focus from honor killings to the actual facts of Rifqa&#039;s case, which needed attention because the damaging FDLE report was about to be made public. Had they been involved with the actual defense of Rifqa they would have known this. Instead, they decide to bring the anti-jihad circus to town much as they did in Columbus earlier this week.Does any of this have anything to do with Rifqa? No. It has everything to do with Pamela&#039;s unquenchable need to be an media whore.Now Pamela is trying to float the story that everybody was screaming &quot;where&#039;s the mother&quot;? What BS. We know exactly where the mother was and what she did. Pamela said so herself.Yes, Pamela THE &quot;NEED&quot; TO BE IN &quot;CHARGE&quot; IS WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM HERE! Just not in the way you intend it. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror before attacking Debbie for calling you on your shameful behavior.SHAME ON YOU PAMELA GELLER!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it seems that Pamela has now shown up as &#8220;WrongIdeas&#8221; sockpuppet. Nice shift from third to first person there, Pamela.</p><p>It isn&#8217;t exactly clear that Pamela or Robert have done anything than media whore this issue. Were they intimately involved in the legal defense of Rifqa? No. Instead, Pamela has Robert and Andy Bostom attack Rifqa&#8217;s actual attorney, John Stemberger. Where they involved in the political effort to keep Rifqa in Florida? No. That was Tom Trento of the Florida Security Council working behind the scenes, who the Pamela crew have also publicly attacked. Are they working with Rifqa&#8217;s Ohio legal defense team? No. Had they been they would have been aware much sooner that the dependency charges had been dropped and the hearing rescheduled. Are they working with the activists in Ohio working behind the scenes on Rifqa&#8217;s behalf? No. In fact, every single speaker at their &#8220;protest&#8221; was from out of town.</p><p>Instead, Pamela and Robert hurt Rifqa&#8217;s cause considerably when they showed up in Orlando &#8212; unannounced &#8212; and barged their way into Tom Trento&#8217;s press conference and created the media side show that the media had been hoping for. Instead of changing the focus from honor killings to the actual facts of Rifqa&#8217;s case, which needed attention because the damaging FDLE report was about to be made public. Had they been involved with the actual defense of Rifqa they would have known this. Instead, they decide to bring the anti-jihad circus to town much as they did in Columbus earlier this week.</p><p>Does any of this have anything to do with Rifqa? No. It has everything to do with Pamela&#8217;s unquenchable need to be an media whore.</p><p>Now Pamela is trying to float the story that everybody was screaming &#8220;where&#8217;s the mother&#8221;? What BS. We know exactly where the mother was and what she did. Pamela said so herself.</p><p>Yes, Pamela THE &#8220;NEED&#8221; TO BE IN &#8220;CHARGE&#8221; IS WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM HERE! Just not in the way you intend it. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror before attacking Debbie for calling you on your shameful behavior.</p><p>SHAME ON YOU PAMELA GELLER!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mK750</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-139874</link> <dc:creator>mK750</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:28:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-139874</guid> <description>According to Geller they aren&#039;t citizens. They supposedly went to the US to seek medical treatment for Rifqa when she was small because of an eye injury which PG doesn&#039;t believe was the &quot;accident&quot; they claim.  At the time, Mohammed Bary was a precious gems merchant and showed considerable assets and income.  His wife also has a business hand embellishing bridal veils which can&#039;t be cheap. The Barys, again all this is from Atlas Shrugs, Have claimed approx. a quarter million income a year for Mohammed&#039;s business.The items shown in his catalog are average quality however, Sri Lanka is the center for the highest quality colored stones so it&#039;s probably that he is dealing in those under the counter. My opinion.Atlas again - The Florida judge originally demanded the immigration documents before he released Rifqa to Ohio. According to PG they were not produced, at least not publicly so what really happened?The problem now is if they are deported, Rifqa, as a minor, goes with them. If she can be kept alive until she reaches 18, she can request asylum as an adult and the parents can then be deported or jailed as illegals. Again my opinion.This whole thing is very disturbing because a woman with PG&#039;s savvy should have know that even if her behavior was the best and most ethical a journalist could muster, her involvement would provide fodder for this becoming a media circus with no good outcome for the girl.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Geller they aren&#8217;t citizens. They supposedly went to the US to seek medical treatment for Rifqa when she was small because of an eye injury which PG doesn&#8217;t believe was the &#8220;accident&#8221; they claim.  At the time, Mohammed Bary was a precious gems merchant and showed considerable assets and income.  His wife also has a business hand embellishing bridal veils which can&#8217;t be cheap. The Barys, again all this is from Atlas Shrugs, Have claimed approx. a quarter million income a year for Mohammed&#8217;s business.</p><p>The items shown in his catalog are average quality however, Sri Lanka is the center for the highest quality colored stones so it&#8217;s probably that he is dealing in those under the counter. My opinion.</p><p>Atlas again &#8211; The Florida judge originally demanded the immigration documents before he released Rifqa to Ohio. According to PG they were not produced, at least not publicly so what really happened?</p><p>The problem now is if they are deported, Rifqa, as a minor, goes with them. If she can be kept alive until she reaches 18, she can request asylum as an adult and the parents can then be deported or jailed as illegals. Again my opinion.</p><p>This whole thing is very disturbing because a woman with PG&#8217;s savvy should have know that even if her behavior was the best and most ethical a journalist could muster, her involvement would provide fodder for this becoming a media circus with no good outcome for the girl.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jennifer</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/12152/huh-geller-anti-honor-killing-rally-features-mother-who-conspired-to-kill-daughters/comment-page-1/#comment-139736</link> <dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:30:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/?p=12152#comment-139736</guid> <description>OK, I&#039;ll leave my two cents as a reader of both DS and AS. Like DS, huh?! why would PG invite her? She writes about the horrors of Islam and knows the case. Why won&#039;t she reply to DS with a valid question then reply on the story like that? But, I will still read AS -- I like the site for the pure emotion and info. DS has a much different, deliberative style which I also like. I am happy that DS called PG on this and I hope that we can all see how ridiculous it was. Hopefully PG will admit her mistake, move on and not do it again. I still like you both and encourage you to keep writing!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll leave my two cents as a reader of both DS and AS. Like DS, huh?! why would PG invite her? She writes about the horrors of Islam and knows the case. Why won&#8217;t she reply to DS with a valid question then reply on the story like that? But, I will still read AS &#8212; I like the site for the pure emotion and info. DS has a much different, deliberative style which I also like. I am happy that DS called PG on this and I hope that we can all see how ridiculous it was. Hopefully PG will admit her mistake, move on and not do it again. I still like you both and encourage you to keep writing!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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