November 25, 2009, - 12:18 pm

Hey, Don’t Give Terrorist Murderers a Fat Lip; Navy SEALS Criminally Charged

By Debbie Schlussel

A couple of years ago, I was on the thankfully now-defunct “Montel” show to discuss political issues (and get berated by the unduly smug pothead with two diamond stud earrings, who hosted the eponymous show).  I was on with the family of one of the Blackwater employees who was burnt to a crisp and hung on display in Fallujah by Iraqi Muslim barbarians (a redundant phrase).  The family was suing Blackwater (now known as “Xe”) and placed the blame squarely on Blackwater and not the Islamic terrorists who did this.  That was the point I tried to focus on during the show.

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Now, U.S. troops are also getting the treatment Blackwater got.  They captured one of the savage Islamic terrorists who committed this brutal, barbaric set of murders and desecrations.  But they gave the guy a fat lip.  And, in the Obama Islamo-pandering worldview, a swollen lip far exceeds murdering four Americans, burning their bodies to a crisp, and hanging them on display for Muslim laughing, smiling, and partying.

It should be noted that the Bush Administration wasn’t much better on these things, with Condi Clueless a/k/a Condoleezza Rice forcing Muslim “sensitivity training” on Blackwater not long after the brutal murders of the four American contractors.

Still gotta love that Obama “perspective,” which is that much worse and hits a new low in surrender monkey-ism. Yup, this is how Barack Obama wishes the Navy SEALS a “Happy Thanksgiving.” Actually, it appears he’s taken the Best Buy route and skipped the Thanksgiving greetings in favor of a Happy Eid Al-Adha wish to Muslims. And it’s truly “meaningful.” Eid Al-Adha is the Muslim “festival of the sacrifice.” And the Obama Administration is sacrificing these Navy SEALS on the alter of Islamo-pandering:

Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges. . . .

The three, all members of the Navy’s elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral’s mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named “Objective Amber,” told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. . . .

The official handwritten statement from one of the three witnesses [was] given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad. . . .

The detainee was turned over to Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.

The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated that “Objective Amber” planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and “they had been tracking this guy for some time.”

The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its grip over Iraq.

The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades. Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the world press to photograph.

Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had evaded capture until September.

The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.

Um, way too sensitive. If we weren’t so “sensitive,” perhaps less American troops would die. The world is laughing at this ridiculous treatment of our own men. Why would anyone want to serve if this is what they get in return? Catch a terrorist murderer and get court martialed?

So, let’s see: a one-day in-school suspension for “Kick a Jew Day” in Florida. But a court-martial for giving an Islamic terrorist multiple-murderer of Americans a fat lip. Only in America.

Give thanks tomorrow that we still have a free country. With “perspective” and “proportion” like this, it’s a wonder we still do.  What an outrage.

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150 Responses

osama obama is a good name for the anoited and the socialist that conspire with him. a new constitution part needs to start and have a pledge to return to constitution and bill of rights and enforce the 10 admendment. us gov was not created to do health care and prosecute its citizens. ballbarian islam is only places where there is war or problems. wat gives are the demos offended or afraid probably cause most dont ever serve in the military. check out service of elected officials and see most liberal demo socialists never served

j wac on November 25, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Obama is considered Muslim

    We know he is a lier, is un impostor, etc, etc and is not doing any better for this country
    In the laws of Muslims…. what could be his sentence?
    To be lapidated? cut hands and legs?
    Isnt he afraid of his own religion?

    We Americans, we should give Obama to his Muslims camarades to take care of him per Muslim laws

    SouthernLady on November 26, 2009 at 11:32 am

As long as Obama is in charge the Islamic Bastards will be protected by their Muslim President. Just look at his birth certificate and you will find out he is a muslim.

Romans on November 25, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    These Islamists have a basis for their ignorance and brainwashing. You do not!

    Ccook on November 26, 2009 at 9:27 am

From http://www.amazon.com/dp/0316067601/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3376794137&ref=pd_sl_9na7q8lwd_e

“If you’re looking for a true story that showcases both American heroism and Afghani humanity, Marcus Luttrell’s Lone Survivor: The Eyewitness Account of Operation Redwing and the Lost Heroes of SEAL Team 10 (Little, Brown, $24.99), written with Patrick Robinson, may be the book for you. In June of 2005, Luttrell led a four-man team of Navy SEALs into the mountains of Afghanistan on a mission to kill a Taliban leader thought to be allied with Osama bin Laden. On foot, the team encountered two adult men and a teenage boy. A debate broke out as to whether the SEALs should summarily execute the trio to keep them from alerting the Taliban. Luttrell himself was called upon to make the decision. He was torn between considerations of morality and his survival instinct, and he points out that “any government that thinks war is somehow fair and subject to rules like a baseball game probably should not get into one. Because nothing’s fair in war, and occasionally the wrong people do get killed.”

Luttrell opted to spare the Afghanis’ lives. About an hour later, the Taliban launched an attack that claimed nearly a hundred of their own men but also the lives of all the SEALs except Luttrell, who was left wounded.

Not long after that, the Taliban shot down an American rescue helicopter, killing all 16 men on board. Luttrell is sure that the three Afghanis he let go turned around and betrayed the SEALs.

But if nothing is fair in war, neither is anything foreordained. Luttrell was found by other Afghanis, one of whom claimed to be his village’s doctor. Once again, Luttrell had to rely on his instincts. “There was something about him,” Luttrell writes. “By now I’d seen a whole lot of Taliban warriors, and he looked nothing like any of them. There was no arrogance, no hatred in his eyes.” Luttrell trusted the man and his colleagues, who took him back to their village, where the law of hospitality — “strictly nonnegotiable” — took hold. “They were committed to defend me against the Taliban,” Luttrell writes, “until there was no one left alive.”

The law held, and Luttrell survived, returned home and received the Navy Cross for combat heroism from President Bush.”

Fear of being brought up on charges at home — just like this — led to the deaths of MANY of our service members. Anyone who charges our military for this tripe should face a firing squad!

Carla on November 25, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    It makes me sick to see how, the men who are up front and center to protect us, are stomped on by own Government.
    The Navy Seals, our Border Patrol Agents, our local Sheriff’s Department.

    Our Government should be on their knees every single night thanking God we have these men who are brave enough to lay their lives on the line for us. Let’s not forget all the other service men from the Navy, the Army, the Marines, Air force, Coast Guard the Reserves…I for one thank God for them every day. How DARE they initiate such trumped up charges against these HEROs!

    Rhonda Manley on November 26, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    thank you for posting these facts. all we can do is keep telling the truth on these websites. hopefully soon enough of our ignorant citizens will wake up and vote against these islamo-phile socialists in the next election. thanks again

    RNelson on November 28, 2009 at 10:30 am

We need to caution and remind our Politicians to choose their platforms and political correctness carefuly lest the next election turn them (the platforms) into gallows

Darrell Maguire, STGC (SW) US Navy (Ret) on November 25, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Are we getting to a point here where there is going to be another revolution? Again to defend the ideas and concepts that have made America great. To reassert our dominance in the world as the Peace keepers, the power house, the bastion of freedom. Not the third world power that we are set to become as we fall under the spell of the UN’s regulations to curtail our carbon out put, all the while knowing that the science that supposedly proved that it is causing the climate change is false and just another instrument used to make us weak. Do we stand back and watch as our way of life is sold out to others? How can we have sunk so low? When does the American Populist stand up and say this is enough Kowtowing, enough bowing to foreigners, time to stand tall, to represent what we truly are, the giants of industrial innovation, the peace makers, the protectors of the weak and disenfranchised.

    Mutantone on November 26, 2009 at 2:55 am

      To all our service men and women who are fighting to keep this country and all her people safe, I have this to say.HOOYA! SEMPER FI! Keep fighting the good fight.God bless you and keep you,and may he bring you home safe. And to all you PC jerks,PISS OFF!!! The tree of liberty is withering, should we just let it die? I for one say NO! What say you? PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!!!

      Dawg on November 27, 2009 at 8:14 am

Debbie Schlussel got credited by Rush Limbaugh for this post on his show today.

Congrats, Debbie!

NormanF on November 25, 2009 at 7:46 pm

Self inflicted wounds are what one of the SEALS is saying the injury came from. I called it first on this article. Scum bags do it all the time to try and take the spot light off them selves and put it onto the good guys BECAUSE OF THE LEFTISTS THAT RUN OUR COUNTRY.

Joe on November 25, 2009 at 7:49 pm

DS. I don’t think you even realize how true your words are about Obama, at every turn he turns the other cheek for his arab brethren. During the campaign he promised we’d go after Osama Bin Laden and we will kill him. So far he hasn’t lifted a finger took search for Osama and he rather see our own troops court-martialed for next to nothing. To me this is beyond treasonoous behavior and we need to start impeaching law-makers begining with Husssein Obama. He is definately one of them.

seahawker on November 25, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    Oama Obama ? Muslim President? With friends like this who needs Al Quaida. These comments reflect onesided thinking and show you to be an arm of the enemy. Aiding and abetting.
    The Navy can handle this all by themselves…why are you blasting Obama??????
    I do not in any way condone the acts of 2004 seen in the photos, but I also know Blackwater has had their hands in murder rape, etc.
    The whole picture will be recealed in Navy Court. Until then, pray for our service men. Our President is about to send 34,000 more trooops over. Israel Prime Minister is declaring a cease in building in Palestine, thanks to Obama.

    Ccook on November 25, 2009 at 9:07 pm

      Ccook says
      “I do not in any way condone the acts of 2004 seen in the photos, but I also know Blackwater has had their hands in murder rape, etc.”

      How do you know this? Were you there? You are an ignorant piece of trash. Your statement reveals that you DO condone these acts because you believe the actions of Blackwater led to this disgusting act by these animals. Leave my Country.

      John on November 25, 2009 at 10:50 pm

        “Ignorant piece of trash” is the kind of rhetoric that shows YOUR ignorance. I will not leave this country. I love this country and support our President, which is more than some of the anarchists bloggers on this site. Wait for the trial and all the evidence. This is America, remember?
        YHou are being played by a writer who is taking a 2004 horrible incident and playing it up without all the facts in the hands of the Navy. Why, ask yourself, are you going crazy and blaming our President????????

        Ccook on November 26, 2009 at 9:32 am

      Ccook, you need to get your head out of the sand. There is nothing that needs to be investigated here. Obama and his krew don’t want an investigation of Ft. Hood and the Muslim that killed Americans, but let a filthy terrorist get a fat lip and it’s time to criminalize our warriors! You’re either naive and ignorant, or just a plain traitor.

      Joe Wright on November 27, 2009 at 8:06 am

Good job Debbie.

Very sad state of affairs we’ve found ourselves in on so many fronts.

Samuel

Samuel on November 25, 2009 at 8:13 pm

So what are YOU going to do about it? Only one person can change what is going on and that is YOU. If you are posting on this site YOU have an OBLIGATION to take action. The only way to change our situation is to VOTE THEM ALL OUT IN THE PRIMARIES! The left is rapidly seizing everything, GM, the Banks, Housing Financing, Education, Media and we sit and moan about what they are doing yet we don’t vote out our own congressman becasue he brings home the bacon. Well ONLY YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR Congressman, I can’t you can. The only way they can be defeated is to vote them out in the PRIMARIES. Think about how that will shake things up when 100% of the current congress and 1/3 of the Senate is looking for a JOB by June. This might be our last chance to change what is happening to our country.

John Mathieson on November 25, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Five words:

I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

Commoncents on November 25, 2009 at 8:19 pm

The next terrorist we capture does not need to see the light of day ever again!

Rodger Woltjer on November 25, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    The next terrorist we capture should be kept from the press and die of lead poisioning before any one sees him or her.I don’t know who is a greater security threat, The media, the muslims or Obama

    Doug on November 26, 2009 at 6:04 am

I have come to know the Seals through a friend named Nate who made the ultimate sacrifice for his country in Iraq. He has told me that there is nothing more sacred than the promise these brave men make to a nation and to their brothers in combat. Sometimes it takes a trial to awake a nation. We learned that from history. In 1305 William Wallace (Braveheart) was tried unjustly and ‘hanged cruelly’. But the result was not as King Edward of England intended…the Scots as a nation became so angered they rose up to overcome the English oppressor. These brave warrior souls have led us to freedom time and time again…and they are the ones who have protected our rights through the ages…but the task is never easy. And that is why young men become Seals…some say they are crazy…but they are truly Michael’s warriors here on earth…God Bless them all. And as Nate would tell his brothers, especially the one known to him…go to trial wearing your courage in full view for a nation that is growing weary of PC regulations that bring us this trial and the terrorist massacre at Ft. Hood.

D R Foulkes on November 25, 2009 at 9:17 pm

Listening to the news today I heard about this and was lead to this blog. The images break my heart and anger me. It is a sad day when out soldiers who should be hailed and given a medal for capturing this monster are instead facing this. What has our country come to. With each passing day I am sickened by this administration. America we really need to stop this, it will destroy out country. We need to make a big change and defend our hero’s!! I think they showed great restraint in only giving him a fat lip. Why is this even happening. Obama is in a mind set to lose this war, nothing he has done has proven otherwise. I feel sorry for anyone who voted for him, they must be really regretting it now. This is Obama’s America and I am very sad to see it.

Stacey on November 25, 2009 at 9:37 pm

Stacey,
Unfortunately the people who voted for Osama Obama are too ignorant to be regretting their vote for him.

Mike on November 25, 2009 at 9:58 pm

Obama is evil and he is definitely a domestic enemy. He swore to uphold the constitution, but at every turn he is undermining the oath he took. The Democrat controlled Congress is not far behind in this madness of destroying the country in their hell-bend spending. For those who had voted for the evil that is, I hope you wake up and vote right come 2010.

chilipadi on November 25, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Are you an Al Quaeda plant??

    Ccook on November 26, 2009 at 9:34 am

      Ccook sounds like a “Certifiable Nutcase”

      Rusty Wright on November 27, 2009 at 12:01 pm

All three Seals should be given a metal instead of a court- martial. What I see happening is them being convicted of making a false official statement (what ever they said or wrote down). This will not help recruiting that is for sure.

dannyvabchva on November 25, 2009 at 10:38 pm

It is coming down to the point that our military is going to go into combat unarmed to further appease the Muslim president’s fervor for protecting terrorist from harm at the cost of out military this is going to end up a no fire zone in Afghanistan with all the troops placed in the cites and no one on patrol along the points of egress. He is setting this up to be another Vietnam style Democrat war the troops will not be allowed to do their duty and end the insurgency but to be sitting targets in the cities and towns as targets for rockets and mortar attacks. This level of treasonable behavior is not something that we as Americans should stand for.

joshua sweet on November 25, 2009 at 11:23 pm

The enemy within (is in the White House) and has spent over one million dollars on lawyer fees to keep anyone from seeing any of his records. Where is the Birth Certificate? Wake up America!!

cricket on November 25, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    Birthers wouldnt believe it if they saw the birth certificate. Not only has it been dodumented in Hawaii, but the newspaper records kept in archives and by mothers who gave birth the same day and kept the clipping from the Honolulu Star Bulletin 41 years ago prove his birth. What kind of crazy turns against a President during a time of war and financial crisis????????????? YOU are aiding and abetting our enemy. YOU!

    Ccook on November 26, 2009 at 9:38 am

    You need to remember the words that Osama said. He stated that “the Islamic/Muslim would infiltrate America from the inside out”.
    I hope everyone is seeing this taken place right before our eyes!! It has started with the false president and is moving thru out his cabinet

    Bigtee on November 26, 2009 at 10:35 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This is a prime example of of the extreme form of “political correctness”, which is a cancer eating away our liberty and freedom in America. If we don’t stop this cancer, our nation will die a very painful death. Support our troops by riding the country of this obamanation through the ballot box and in public demonstrations and discourse until we are once again a constitutional Republic.

Bonzer Wolf on November 26, 2009 at 12:20 am

We need large public outcry; a civil action; everyone write to their newspapers in editorials…put this on facebook and twitter this around the country; flood every news outlet you can find. We could donate to their defense cases…whatever it takes. email all the congress people. Madam Schroeder has ruined our military with all this “poor terrorist” crap! This is pure nonsense and I for one am furious over letting her liberal minority put their rules on the rest of us! Fight this one; do not let this happen to our brave soldiers!

rightful owner on November 26, 2009 at 12:43 am

This is the Military Oath:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

This is the Oath they get in return:

I… The President of the United States, Senators, Congress, The Speaker, Supreme Court Judges, The State Department, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, United States Military, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Hate Crimes Bill of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of, The ACLU, The Council on American-Islamic Relations, The American-Arab Anti Discrimination Committee, The United Nations and the orders of Liberal & Global Organizations that are appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Political Correctness. So help me any god but the Christian-Judeo God.

Sherrie on November 26, 2009 at 1:06 am

    One of the early actions Obama took after taking office was to instruct the military to revise the ROE (rules of engagement) and make them more restrictive for troops in the field. It’s exteremly difficult for them to do the job they are asked to do and stay safe.

    ML on November 26, 2009 at 11:01 am

Hear that noise? That is my deceased Father rolling over in his grave. You know, the man that fought on Okinawa in WWII? Does anyone think the powers that were and the powers that be are anything alike? Hardly! Truman nuked the shit out of Japan……war over! Obama? Apologized to every fucker who SHOULD have the shit nuked out of them………..war will continue forever! When did we become such a PUSSY republic? Riddle me this Batman……..what the hell are they gonna do if we shit hammer them with every weapon we have? Not a fuckin’ thing! We are led by sorry assed politicians who for whatever reason think we need to be protected from ourselves. Got a headline for ‘em. We need to be protected from them, the sorry assed politicians!

I Wanna Be Prez! on November 26, 2009 at 1:22 am

Fat lip? The SEALs should have given him a bullet between his eyes. America, fighting with muslims is not a war where rules apply. The only rule is: be savagely barbaric towards the barbarians! You will never win points with muslims no matter how much you bend over backwards.

IndianTiger on November 26, 2009 at 1:43 am

You should read the transcripts from a phone call on the Rush Limbaugh radio show. The one caller talks about The Obama Administration being upset about the rules of engagement the SEALS used rescueing the captain taking captive by the pirates. The caller appears to have inside knowledge and seems to think the Administration is taking their disapproval for that incidnt out on these SEALS. The Administration is trying to show their power. Go to his website and read the transcript. You will find it interesting like I did. Thats the story behind The Administration.

Proud American on November 26, 2009 at 2:36 am

Let’s see… these Navy SEALS should receive MEDALS, a ticker-tape parade, free tickets to Disneyland *and* the Rose Bowl, and their choice of any obscenely high-paying position at Blackwater or Haliburton following their (eventual) Honorable Discharge… am I leaving anything out?

May God watch over those who keep the watch for us. Amen.

DeepWheat on November 26, 2009 at 3:12 am

I am sorry, aren’t our SeALs better trained than this? Where are the JAG lawyers giving them their proper briefings:

SPECIAL OPS GUYS-the muslim pieces of sh@t ALL RESIST ARREST, don’t bother bringing them in alive.

Sean R on November 26, 2009 at 6:23 am

Where can we email/write in support of these brave men, and who can we write to (other than Obama) about our objections to this travesty?

Happy and Proud on November 26, 2009 at 6:38 am

Communist, socialist,progressive,democrat or what ever name they operate under, these bastards are intent on the destruction of the United States of America and reducing the american people to a third rate nation. The botox bitch and her counterpart in the senate, the proprietor of “Ethical and Honest Harrys’Real Estate Emoprium” based in Searchlight,NV along with Barrack ” I never heard anything like that in my 20 years in his church” Obama should from now on be detailed to make direct face to face contact with any terrorists we are seeking to detain and negotiate their surrender. As was related to me by my father, a veteran of the marine corps in WWll serving on Guadacanal,Pelielu, and Okinawa, the scarcity of Japanese prisoners was based in large part to a no prisoners attitude adopted by the marines on the front lines. Since our opponents are not signatories to, and do not observe the conditions of the Geneva Convention, this attitude should be adopted now. As to all of this “The world dosen’t like us” attitude, I really don’t give a damn if you like us, I want you to be afraid of us. This should be backed up by a “Kill ‘em all, God can sort them out” style of warfare.

Viet nam class of 1968 on November 26, 2009 at 9:22 am

DEBBIE, THESE MEN NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE ADVISE WHERE A DONATION CAN BE TO HELP WITH THE LEGAL COSTS.

THANKS,
JOHN

JOHN on November 26, 2009 at 10:09 am

I recommend that any of you who want to register your outrage over the court martiial of these three guys, write, email or phone;President Obama, John Murtha – Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee (the entire committee wouldn’t be a bad idea), Carl Levin – Chairman of the Senate Armmed Service Committee (again the entire committee would be good, also Senators McCain, Lieberman, and Kyl who are all strong supporters of our military. You can do this very easily and free at Dearpolitician.org.

ML on November 26, 2009 at 10:39 am

If these guys are court martialed, whether they are found guilty or not, they and their loved ones will suffer even more than they already have. Where are our good leaders in the field. A real leader would have taken care of any punishment (if any punishment was due at all and I doubt it) on his own, in the field and saved three good men.

Mine is a multi-generational military family and my G’son is a SEAL. I know exactly what these guys and their loved ones go through and it ain’t pretty.

ML on November 26, 2009 at 10:45 am

Being a service member for 10 years now and being deployed a few times I have seen the ugly side of war first hand. Let’s just say my unit touches any and everything that flies in our out of a war zone. I am equally upset with the way the UCMJ forces prosecution of service members who have done nothing wrong. Being in law school I have learned where the UCMJ (uniform code of military justice) and commonsense sometimes do not agree.

However I think that there is an attitude of hate that is coming from most of the comments and not one that is seeking justice. One person asked who do you write about this. Write your elected officials. House and Senate reps and tell them this is not acceptable. That these men should not be prosecuted.

I am not trying to change anyone’s mind if you hate Obama, or Muslims, or Iraqis, or Afghani people you have the “right” to do so. But does your hate do anything to change what is happening? When we spew words of hate over and over we began to sound like the people we want to “rid the world, or our great nation” of.

I think the ROE (rules of engagement) are stupid in most instances, but serve a purpose when you have some hot-head 19 year old infantrymen who wants to count “bodies” and not “enemies” killed.

All I am saying is be careful. We can hate something so much that we lose sight of what is really going on. If you don’t like the way this country is going “Vote” but wasting Thanksgiving morning spitting out hate is not a good use of time.

One of my navy buddies showed me this site, don’t think I can read much more. There is not intellectual discourse on this site, more like a bunch of angry people who want to destroy something.

I pray that Jesus Christ will be with each of you and your families this Holiday season.

Kaz Syd on November 26, 2009 at 10:50 am

    Kaz Syd,

    Well said!

    God Bless you for not losing sight of what is important. This is just a place we are visiting until we get to Heaven.

    True American on November 27, 2009 at 6:12 am

    Kaz Syd, your thoughts are appropriate to most web blogs I read. Folks that agree with my politics do not have a track record any better than the mindless leftists. I have neighbors that voted for Obama but I don’t talk to them nor do they to me like posters to websites like this write to and about one another. We are in desperate need of civility because hatred advances neither perspective.

    Yankee on December 3, 2009 at 11:55 am

This abomination and betrayal of those three SEALs will certainly be costly in retention and recruiting of special ops candidates. Even before this incident, 5 of my G’son’s SEAL squad of 12, refused to re-enlist. To a man they said that it was because of Obama’s attitude and the growing PC and restrictions on their ability to do their jobs.

It takes 2 years and about $2 million to train a SEAL.

ML on November 26, 2009 at 10:54 am

Take comfort. Next time they won’t capture the bastards. Next time a fat lip will be replaced by an entry and exit wound. I hope that those who take part in prosecuting these heros burn in hell. And hey Ccook.. go back to Yemen. Your homies are calling you. Take your socialist muslim president wih you. You do not belong here, and you do not deserve to be here.

citizen68 on November 26, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Nuke Mecca

work2do on November 26, 2009 at 5:10 pm

The Navy Seals who were successful in their mission should be praised for capturing that criminal. It is insane that THEY are now on trial. Is it any surprise this is happening under Obama’s administration? Incidently, many of Obama’s affiliations prior to being elected were just as radical as the man the Navy Seals captured! It is a shame McCain didn’t highlight during his campaign these radical people Obama affiliated himself with. I am afraid we have a Trojan horse president and we are now well underway of reaping the consequences of America electing him into office.

Daryn on November 26, 2009 at 7:02 pm

More galactic stupidity from the token experiment that is this administration and a military brass full of managers, but not one leader to be found. Wake me when the juvenile actions are through and adults once again occupy the White House and the Pentagon.

Chuck on November 26, 2009 at 7:19 pm

November 2012 can’t come soon enough, that is if this closet Muslim, abortion of a President does’nt destroy our Country first…pray, pray, pray! God will judge this Christ denier!

Easyal on November 26, 2009 at 9:30 pm

May I remind the poster above who said this site is full of “hate” that these things do not constitute hate:

1. disagreements in how justice should be served
2. criticism of BO
3. anger about injustice in the military or white house
4. conservative thinking
5. the belief that enemies in war should not be treated as U.S. citizens

Sigh…This is getting old. Just because you call it hate doesn’t make it so. For instance, I could call your post silly and insensitive, but my words alone would not make it so.

I teach HS spec ed. One important thing they need to be taught is the difference between fact and opinion.It is accepted with this population, but when I get home and read opinion blogs, it is tiresome to find the same lack of clarity and abstract thought on a blog as I see in those in low IQ classes.

Conservababe on November 27, 2009 at 12:48 am

The Religion of Pieces.

Kirk B on November 27, 2009 at 12:48 am

To “Kaz Syd:” You say the folks are this site have “an attitude of hate.” You don’t sound like much of a military person to me. Nor do you sound terribly intelligent. Perhaps it is your being in Law School that is making you so stupid. What is being expressed here by those of us who love our Military and our Country, is the voice of Righteous Anger. Sometimes, it is necessary to “hate” in order to take action against injustice, like that being done to the Seal Team members. Without this righteous anger and hatred for things of evil, such as liberal liars and treasonous politicians, nothing will get done to rid us of the evil.

Mel on November 27, 2009 at 2:10 am

Sorry I’m too old to go fight for the right on the battle field. But I can fight for the right with my vote. I agree that we should take care of this problem in the voting booth. If they don’t hear us now, perhaps they will get the message with our vote. Who do we have that is really and truely Honest that we can vote for?? I can’t seem to come up with the answer to that question. Most of you agree that we can voice our concerns and anger, by contacting our reps. But I don’t have any faith that they can do anything about anything anyway. I don’t have any real answers, just questions. I’m 74 and I’m afraid for our Country and our freedom being taken away from us. God Help Us All.. I do pray always. Thanks to all good honest men and women. We need you.

Old GI.. on November 28, 2009 at 1:05 am

I’m totally enraged by the stupidity but also gratified by the outrage over this situation. American heros on trial for “slapping??” a terrorist? WTF!?! Is this for real? Is this America? Someone wake me up please!!!

theShadow on November 28, 2009 at 2:50 am

I just want to know if there are any lawyers out there who will defend our guys??? I know there are plenty who will for the terrorists. Sickening!! We American loving people have got to stand up for these guys….this is a damned shame. Hey Navy Seals…..next time just shoot them in the head..the hell with intelligence you MIGHT get from them. Have your story straight and just shoot them in the head…at point blank range!

lidia on November 28, 2009 at 8:51 am

Examine the difference effect between Ft Hood shootings and the SEAL’s capture.Our enemy is being protected while our Brothers are being prosecuted.

Ken on November 28, 2009 at 9:26 am

I am sickened and outraged! Patriots, let your Representatives and Senators know your anger over this incredible persecution of our military. Let them know if they do not SPEAK OUT against this insanity, WE WILL KICK THEM OUT OF OFFICE! Capital switchboard is 202 225-3121 How quickly the outcries of the massacre at Ft. Hood were quieted. ACT NOW! WE MUST NOT be silenced. 202 225-3121

Tipping Point on November 29, 2009 at 3:04 pm

Lois Pope and Arthur Wilson of the VFW are the same as these Turbine wearers! Go to http://www.wheresthemoneylois.com and find out what these filthy liberals are doing in the name of Veterans.

Fallon O'Brien on November 29, 2009 at 4:17 pm

It’s appalling to see how the democrats belittle and demoralize our men and women in uniform every time they have the presidency. Just think, we’ve got 3 more years of this Obama bringing America down to size crap. I fear we may not survive!!

Mike R on November 30, 2009 at 1:44 am

The Obama Administration’s treatment of these SEALS is treasonous. On the one hand our military is being asked to defeat terrorism at every turn – then when they do, BHO’s goose-stepping goons (and aide-de-camp, John Murtha) hop on the military and condemn them for doing what they were told to do. The terrorist leader they captured gets a fat lip or banged around and right away Obama, his henchmen, and other America-hating Socialist-loving organizations (UN, NATO, CAIR, UAW, AFL-CIO, IBEW, SEIU, etc.) denounce them as though the SEALS were the ones who orchestrated the 9/11 tragedies!
Frankly, Obama is an embarassment to the United States of America. To put the desires, wishes, demands, and pleas of other nations before that of his own country is an absolute travesty! If the President and the Congress of these United States do not stand up for, defend, and protect its citizens, whether military or civilian, then they should be removed from office and replaced with those who will.
The Obama Administration must denounce the acts of radical, America-hating, militant terrorists! We must demand an accountability from the phony leaders of Middle Eastern regimes. They must be asked to intervene and demand the surrender of militant Muslim terrorists. If they fail to do so, then they are as guilty of these crimes as if they’d done them themselves.
Pseudo-elections used by hate-filled mullahs to install figurehead leaders shows that their countries have no intention of acting honorably. The thin veil between figureheads and real leaders of these Muslim-dominated nations is easily seen through. Yet Obama prefers to kowtow to their demands and put the wishes of those spiteful nations ahead of those of the United States of America.
We’re fearful we’ll offend them if we don’t acquiesce to their religious culture. Yet we take no offense if they murder Christians or innocent civilians. Sitting in the White House and asking the American people to be more tolerant and understanding of other religions (specifically Islam) after they’ve video-taped beheadings of American citizens, or burned, mutilated, and hung from their bridges innocent civilians (because they’re infidels), and killed multiplied thousands of Americans on 9/11, killed hundreds in Spain by bombing their train systems, and demanded the death of writer of the Satanic Verses, and demanded the death of the Dutch cartoonist(s) for blasphmey of Muhammed (who was a mass murderer, child molester, and rapist)…the US should be saying to these nations that we will not tolerate the kind of behavior exhibited by them, their leaders, and adherents. That every act of this kind will result in retribution until it stops…and, further, that the actions of the so-called radical, militant strain of their religion not condemned by their government and the religious leaders, will be considered as having been approved by their leadership and will have as its end, an eye-for-an-eye response until they stop!
Doing to these SEALS what the current Administration is doing (or allowed to be done) is not acceptable to the American people.

Walter Renniks on November 30, 2009 at 9:21 am

Anyone who tries these SEALS, allows them to be tried or does not stand up for them to stop this nonsense is committing treason.

They are endangering our troops by giving them pause in their actions for potential consequences, that momentary pause can cost them their lives in a firefight. This does nothing but aid the enemy who seeks to kill all of us at home and abroad.

Do you not think that the terrorists who they captured are not happy that they can have a fat lip and cause heartache for the brave men who captured them? Are they not pleased to make the military less able to do their jobs and more afraid of consequences to apprehend them? Are the terrorists not empowered to fight, resist capture or even give themselves wounds to blame on the special ops to get them in trouble and take them off a battle field while they are being tried?
Is this not comforting to our enemies?

See it for what it is people, It is giving our enemies aid and comfort. It is treason to try these men who in any other war at any other time in our history would have been given medals for taking this man in alive.

America is falling under a tyrant who is destroying the military that protects it’s citizens.

Bob on November 30, 2009 at 12:16 pm

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