Comments on: America’s Future: French Jewish Woman Attacked, Carved w/ Swastika By Muslims

By: jaywilton

jaywilton — Fri, 18 May 2007 13:04:00 +0000

I have a list of nominees for Jewish Idiot Of The Year,but since last night I caught a story of some grafitti put on a mosque,right now my leading contenders would be the Jewish idiots from “the Jewish community” who were pictured in front of a mosque the last time “this outrage” happened-a short time ago.One of ‘ems a “family friend”;her response:”You have to start somewhere”(naturally she’s a public school teacher).

By: Nuggler

Nuggler — Fri, 18 May 2007 10:32:27 +0000

On The Mark seems to forget-or refuses to acknowledge: If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.
OTM, go visit Toulon…just outside the French Naval Barracks, past the tiny square, and sit in the park for a bit. Spout your “tolerance” there. Or try Pudejecvo Kosovo… then visit old Nurenberg, and tell us why there the walls are and high and thick. Visit Southern California-although not a Muzzie strong-hold-and walk through Chula Vista or San Ysidro with an All-American flag of the United States. I wonder if Infidels can have a friendly lunch in Hamtramick (sp?) Michigan, while wearing a Israeli flag pin.
As far as the “far right wing” label goes, well was it far right wingers who removed the pump handles in / around when the Cholera epidemic was killing thousands? Or, as you suggest, should they tried to better “understand” the germs that were sickening and killing the Londoners? (To include “tolerating” the bacteria?) Look at it from a infectious medicine perspective, and you’ll see…wait…never mind…Salk, Pasteur, Pauling are all right wingers…
Islamic Militants-and their supporters-are a retrovirus that must be quarantined, contained, segregated period.
I do not agree with you, but us “far right wingers” will accept your thanks when we defend to our death your right to be wrong.

By: hutchrun

hutchrun — Thu, 17 May 2007 23:38:38 +0000

Londonistan Calling
They say that the past is another country, but let me tell you that it’s much more unsettling to find that the present has become another country, too. In my lost youth I lived in Finsbury Park, a shabby area of North London, roughly between the old Arsenal football ground and the Seven Sisters Road. It was a working-class neighborhood, with a good number of Irish and Cypriot immigrants. Your food choices were the inevitable fish-and-chips, plus the curry joint, plus a strong pitch from the Greek and Turkish kebab sellers. There was never much “bother,” as the British say, in Finsbury Park. Greeks and Turks might be fighting in Cyprus, but they never lifted a hand to one another in London. Many of the Irish had republican allegiances, but they didn’t take that out on the local Protestants. And, even though both Cyprus and Ireland had all the grievances of partitioned former British colonies, it would have seemed inconceivableóunimaginableóthat any of their sons would put a bomb on the bus their neighbors used.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/06/hitchens200706

By: code7

code7 — Thu, 17 May 2007 19:00:12 +0000

Sorry OmegaMan, thanks Debbie…
On the Mark, I partially grew-up in Europe, don’t even tell me it is even close to the harmonious, sanctuary of tolerant muslims you claim. I saw the way you treated the Turks in your country, too, so tolerant as long as they didn’t plan on staying.
You have had peace for so long for one reason alone, the U.S. soldier to the tune of 450,000 in the seventies and 300,000 when I was there keeping you and your best friends the “frogs” from blowing up the world a third time.

By: FreethinkerNY

FreethinkerNY — Thu, 17 May 2007 16:57:33 +0000

On The Mark is living proof that Liberals are infested with Mad Cow disease.

By: On The Mark

On The Mark — Thu, 17 May 2007 09:57:57 +0000

Thank you for your reponse, Ripper. I have been to all of those places. Finsbury and Euston on this last trip ….
In my lifetime, I have never worn, and I have never seen anyone wear a prominent Star of David except in film and theatre. From time-to-time I will see a man or a woman wearing a Star of David as jewelry or a man in a yarmulka or Talis, even in Europe.
I was truly trying to understand something which confuses me. I am constantly being told by Far Right Wingers that Europe is disintegrating, and I have just not seen any evidence of that. Rather obviously, nothing posted herein is going to further that understanding, so I now move on.

By: Ripper

Ripper — Thu, 17 May 2007 08:47:10 +0000

On the Mark
I would suggest you walk around Whitechapel Road, Brick Lane, Finsbury Park, Euston Road – in London or anywhere in say Bradford – wearing a prominent Star of David and then get back to us.

By: On The Mark

On The Mark — Thu, 17 May 2007 08:40:43 +0000

I understand Far Right Wing American intolerance, and it doesn’t bother me in the least. I rather pity intolerant people. They make their own worlds incredibly small, ugly places and desparately try to draw others in.
Want I don’t understand is a comment like, “Europe is falling apart.” I see no evidence of that. Just last week I was in London and the suburban areas to the north and west, even Luton and Wimbley, and I saw a busy, vibrant place full of productive people going about their lives and allowing other people to go about their lives. I never once felt endangered or threatened, as I sometimes do in Dallas, Phoenix, Los Angeles or some other US cities.
I had pub dinners at which I was attended by Londoners with thick City accents, Australians, Poles and even a woman in Islamic scarves. In the Tube stations I saw males from former African colonies running alongside women in Burqas to catch the next train. I know I am being anecdotal, but the horror stories I hear, which I know to be true, are also anecdotal. More depth, more substance, please!
When I checked in at Stansted to return home, my counter was next to an El Al counter. We had armed law enforcement personnel in the area, not because it was an El Al counter but because that is the norm. When I went through security, I started to remove my laptop and my shoes and was told that wasn’t necessary, that it served no purpose. Yet, I felt safe and secure because of the guards and because of the profiling I knew was going on. By contrast, when I went through security at JFK, I took out my laptop and my plastic bag, took off my shoes and my belt (although neither were metallic) and had to go back through to run my passport portfolio through. The window dressing and the TSA/recently ex-hamburger flipping personnel made me feel less secure.
What I am saying is I think it is possible to be both secure and tolerant, to protect ourselves without doing violence to those great principles which make us American and which make the USA the nation which other nations aspire to be. We haven’t found the mix, which is fine, but I don’t think we are trying to do so in a meaningful way, which is troubling. As a consequence, we are less secure and less free.
If, as you suggest, we are in a period during which Muslims will be establishing their presence in the national lives of the Western democracies, maybe we ought to be searching for ways to insure that what they offer enriches us, but does not fundamentally change us. I don’t for a moment believe the European experience is a paradigm for us, but it may offer us some glimmers of a distinctly American, working route. Similarly, we can learn much from the Israelis and the Indonesians who, despite their problems, have found value in the struggle.
On some level and to some degree, we are endangering ourselves and our culture. I do believe that on our current track we are in for a very bleak time. Maybe, we ought to be devoting our attention and our energies to the end of protecting our lives and our culture instead of just clothing ourselves in a too tightly woven synthetic fabric of security. A more tolerant cloth might make a durable garment.

By: hutchrun

hutchrun — Thu, 17 May 2007 03:14:39 +0000

I think this could do with some follow-up:
Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – The U.S. Congress is looking into the issue of “the other Middle East refugees” — Jews in Arab countries who were forced through violence or discriminatory decrees to flee when the State of Israel was established 59 years ago.
The U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee’s subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia held a hearing on the subject last week, and “sense of Congress” resolutions are being considered in the House and Senate.
In 1948, 856,000 Jews lived in 10 Arab countries. Today, there are some 8,000.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200705/FOR20070514a.html

By: CarpeDiem

CarpeDiem — Thu, 17 May 2007 01:10:31 +0000

ON THE MARK:
Why wait? Do us a favor – retire tomorrow and move to your beloved Germany!
No doubt you have been protected from anti-Americanism by your incredible arrogance and excessive verbosity – people assume you are French!
I suggest re-reading Debbie’s post on the off chance that doing so will help you understand that the woman attacked by muslims was French, not American. Also, perhaps you can comprehend after re-reading the post that she was savagely attacked not because she was exuding fear, but because she was wearing jewelry that identified her as Jewish.
As an experiment, next time you are wandering around Europe try wearing something that identifies you as Jewish and let us know how it turns out.