December 11, 2009, - 3:34 pm

Hmmm . . . Yet Another Dry Run?: United 227 Sounds Just Like AirTran 297

By Debbie Schlussel

For those doubters who mocked me and chose to believe a lying AirTran over passenger Tedd J. Petruna regarding what happened on AirTran Flight 297 on November 17th, you might wanna start mocking the passengers of Wednesday’s United 227, too.  Oh, and maybe you might wanna start calling former NFL coach Mike Shanahan a nut, too.  He was on the flight.

It’s yet another flight grounded because Middle Eastern men tried to create havoc, test the system, and likely do a dry run.  It’s almost an identical scenario with flight attendants scared out of their minds, etc.

But, hey, nothing to see here, move along. You know the drill: we’re just “bigots”. Uh-huh. So what happened on this flight? Why was a bomb-sniffing K9 brought in? And why were several “Middle-Eastern” men escorted off? Huh?

It’s not entirely clear why some passengers were removed from a plane at Denver International Airport on Wednesday. United Airlines issued a statement suggesting that the passengers were “re-accommodated” onto another flight.

A spokesperson for the Denver Police Department confirms to 9NEWS that Denver Police officers were called to DIA on Wednesday, but declined to elaborate any further.

Flight 227 left DIA bound for Los Angeles nearly three hours late. It was scheduled to depart at 1:50 p.m., but ended up leaving at 4:32 p.m.

“Our crew followed recognized, industry standard procedures and re-accommodated some passengers on another flight. We are investigating this matter,” read a Thursday morning statement from United. A United spokesperson declined to elaborate any further as well.

The United crew apparently noticed certain patterns they are trained to spot. Sources tell NBC News airline employees are trained to look for certain behaviors such as how a ticket is paid for, how often passengers get up to use the restroom, and even who their traveling companions are.

A spokesperson for the FBI, Kathy Wright, confirmed to 9NEWS that federal investigators were originally called to the scene after receiving a call on a “possible suspicious incident.” Wright said eventually “we determined that it was not an FBI matter.”

Passengers say a bomb-sniffing dog was brought onto the plane and passengers in the first-class cabin we’re asked to go back to coach for a brief amount of time according to passengers on the plane.

John Sloan of Oxnard, California, was on board the flight on Wednesday.

“I have never seen flight attendants so scared in my life. Everything turned out OK, but it was not a very good feeling. It would have been nice to have been updated though this process,” he told 9NEWS by phone.

Sloan says seven men were escorted off of the plane. Two of them were sitting in coach. The other five were sitting in first-class, he says. All were re-booked onto another flight according to United.

Sloan says the men were attempting to change seats with other passengers. Another passenger, who doesn’t want his name used, says the men were also trying to move luggage while the plane was getting ready to push back.

Passengers tell 9NEWS all of the men looked to be “Middle Eastern,” but United will not confirm the identity of the seven men.

Nothing criminal was found, and the flight was allowed to continue on to California.

Passengers also tell 9NEWS that former head coach of the Denver Broncos, Mike Shanahan, was seated in first class while this was all going on. Shanahan could not be reached for comment, and a spokesperson for the former coach simply told 9NEWS that he was “out of town.”

But, hey, I and the passengers and the flight attendants and the K9 are all just nuts, right? There’s nothing to fear here. Tell me that the next time you’re on a flight with several Middle Eastern men who are escorted off with a bomb-sniffing animal brought in.

If there was nothing going on here, United wouldn’t still be “investigating.”  So, how long until United starts attacking its passengers the way AirTran did?  Perhaps United–which had two planes hijacked on 9/11–gets it.

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This is only the beginning, it will be done again untill the muzzys are successful.

Drakken on December 11, 2009 at 3:42 pm

Its right up there with the Islamist belief women are really the “second sex.” (Except when they blow themselves up for Allah – then Islam’s an equal opportunity religion.) They want to us to know we’re all meant to die. Aurel Goldfinger had nothing on these Islamist nutjobs.

NormanF on December 11, 2009 at 3:47 pm

Hey Debbie. Stern repeated an old episode with you on on his OnDemand Channel. Miss you on the show. Will be following you on your web site more.

Chris from Detroit on December 11, 2009 at 3:50 pm

I don’t know if the media ever mentioned this, but I know for a fact that the 9/11 hijackers engaged in several dry runs prior to the actual event.

I_AM_ME on December 11, 2009 at 3:54 pm

I would love this to happen on a flight I was on. The little turds would be stepped on like dog doo and be carried off the plane kind of bloody.

Larry on December 11, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    actually i wish all of them are in body bags… scum bags!

    Mark on December 11, 2009 at 6:09 pm

Larry – you realize that you’ll be charged with a “hate crime” if you do that?

DS_ROCKS! on December 11, 2009 at 4:16 pm

DS_ROCKS! . . .he can only be charged with a hate crime if there were witnesses. Wanna bet the authorities would be hard pressed to find any.

wtd on December 11, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    wtd: The authorities would be hard-pressed to find witnesses to anything BUT the “unprovoked beating.” Since I expect the authorities would be like Air Tran and deny: )1 that there WAS an incident, 2) that there were any Muslim or Middle Eastern men involved, 3) that there was any suspicious behavior on the part of any Muslim or Middle Eastern men. They would only claim that the plane was delayed because some knuckle-dragging white guy “went nuts” and attacked several innocent Asian men in First Class and coach.

    And BTW, when did Middle Eastern people suddenly become Asian? I must be out of the PC loop, because when I think of Asian I think of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. When I think Asian, ARAB or MUSLIM does not immediately come to mind.

    DG in GA on December 12, 2009 at 4:48 am

      Geography 101: The Middle East, Including Israel, is in Asia. Makes me an Asian.

      mk750 on December 12, 2009 at 11:41 am

Perhaps the airlines should put a muzzie identification pamphlet in with the safety instructions.

Jarhead on December 11, 2009 at 4:39 pm

If only Tedd Petruna was on that flight, he’d beat everyone up and prevent 1000 9/11s from happening without even being on the flight.

Michael on December 11, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    who is tedd petruna?

    B: Try clicking on the link. That’s why it’s there–so, I don’t have to repeat the Tedd Petruna story, and you can refer back to what I originally wrote about him. DS

    bob on December 13, 2009 at 8:22 am

It’s too bad they don’t NEED trained medical professionals as well as ambulances whenever these dumb ass ragheads are taken off of flights because of their stupid behavior. A laptop can be an excellent weapon.

Jarhead on December 11, 2009 at 5:09 pm

You’re right, Debbie. We should trust this guy who was on 297, instead of a security consultant who was on board the airplane, the airline itself, and the FAA. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/airtran_flight_297_passenger_airline_not_telling_t.php

Patrick on December 11, 2009 at 5:43 pm

Also, is it really so hard to believe that a security agency so incompetent as to publish its guidelines in an easily-decodable form would possibly be overzealous in some aspects of security?

Patrick on December 11, 2009 at 5:44 pm

Jarhead, that’s a good idea. I could always start one. I need the graphics practice. :)

cirrus1701 on December 11, 2009 at 6:12 pm

“We are investigating this matter,” at least until we’re threatened by CAIR and other victim groups. Then we’ll hold sensitivity training sessions to waste our employees’ time, so it insults their intelligence and instincts.

Diversity training = Protect the feelings of enemies, shackle the wise.

I feel so safe now, don’t you?

John on December 11, 2009 at 6:35 pm

I’m waiting for some of these dry runs to end up with some injuries to the muzzies. Any citizen should be prepared to deal with deadly threats when using any form of transportation.

I’m not holding my breath waiting for the airline to come out with actual findings. Nor am I waiting for Shanahan to come out with his story.

Joe on December 11, 2009 at 6:37 pm

Defeat these evil trash Muslims.

Fighter on December 11, 2009 at 7:35 pm

So another group a swarthy men are investigated, and when no evidence of a terrorist plot is found, the right wingers cry DRY RUN!

Snax on December 11, 2009 at 7:43 pm

For all you muslim lovers, you’re missing the point. Obviously something happened on these flights or the men would not have been de-planed and the flights delayed.
I’m glad the Airlines are rolling in dough, because every time a flight leaves late, no matter the cause, the airline is fined by the FAA. When I used to work for Delta, the fines were on average about 5 to $10,000 per infraction.
So everytime these Muzzies act up it costs money for the airline. Our hard earned bail out money hard at work.
Like I said before, until the other passengers start suing, this type of behavior will continue.

perception of truth on December 11, 2009 at 9:50 pm

They want broadcast speakers on top of a mosque here. maple grove Mn. 4 am first call!
The politically correct will insist. you will hear it for 4 miles. We must submit, or we may offend them! in fact our being here offends them too. property values to be zero.
the city approved the mosque, let them approve this or risk offense to them.

In Denmark the girls are raped for dressing poorly. They really need to be escorted and in Burquas. SHARIA LAW IS HERE!

Get with it America!

den on December 11, 2009 at 10:02 pm

the air lines wont admit their is a problem. They spent millions on lobbyist’s before 9/11 to not have to spend money to improve security. If they admit these guys are getting on board and causing problems they will be forced to spend more money on security.

as always, just follow the money. When it hits the fan again they will blame the government and ask for another bailout.

ender on December 11, 2009 at 10:03 pm

If this wasn’t a dry run, then perhaps it was a setup to sue and collect damages like the “flying Imams”.

Reasons for downplaying this? Continued refusal in MSM and our government to admit that there’s something terribly terribly wrong with Islam/Muslims and/or not wanting to scare people into not flying during the holidays because it would not be good for the economy. Kind of a “move along folks, nothing to see here” moment.

chewchy on December 11, 2009 at 11:23 pm

Well this……

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_227

… is a bit spooky.

I was under the impression Airlines retired Designsted flight numbers after a fatal crash.

Not being real big on co-incidences, this certainly adds a bit of intrigue now doesn’t it.

Billy on December 11, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Debbie, you never disappoint! I love you, girl!

BOO!

Did I scare you? No? Ok, lemme try again.

Hey! What’s that over there!! …BOO!

Goodness, goodness. Ok, guys. If you wanna believe these people should be “stomped” and “bloody” [two commenters on this thread] then what do you say to the innocent Americans who have been taken off planes unnecessarily? Should they have been beaten? Or to the men and women who have been trapped on the No Fly list because they have the same name as a suspect somewhere, anywhere in the world?

Sometimes when I hear the hand-wringing, fear-mongering crowd scream ‘the terrorists will win!” at every turn, I have to wonder if they haven’t already.

Instead of assuming all of these “dry runs,” why don’t you start to realize that the foaming-mouth policies you espouse resemble a much bigger “win” for the terrorists.

Henry on December 12, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Henry, I’m sure most people can tell the difference between a stupid passenger doing something asinine and some muzzies acting very suspiciously. I hope I am never on a flight with you. You know what they call people like you who do nothing when faced with difficult decisions concerning life or death? Corpses.

    Jarhead on December 12, 2009 at 1:00 pm

this crap infuriates me!

when these things occur the airlines should be required to “reaccommodate” these terrorist scumbags to the near muslim nation, shove them out on the tarmac, and take off back to the US.

islam, AND ALL MUSLIMS, are incompatible with the west. they should be repatriated with the muslim utopia of their choice and banned from entering our country. outlaw the koran and redidicate the mosques here to something useful. make a reality show of people competing to knock down the minarets that have been built here.

i am sick of this crap.

howardroark on December 12, 2009 at 12:57 pm

I really think these are probing incidents. If you thought this was bad,, check out this video,, the terror training camp in Hancock, New York,, this is brand new footage,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu7zPbyrco&feature=player_embedded

Everybody needs to see this,, and be aware of the menace that these camps represent.

solsticewitch13 on December 12, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Jarhead, what a prescient reply to my post. And you proved my point exactly.

“I’m sure most people can tell the difference between a stupid passenger doing something asinine and some muzzies acting very suspiciously.”

Have you even heard of Tedd Petruna?!?

I mean, do you even realize the contradiction in your own words? Do you? The airline asking the proper authorities to intervene is the right move. Stomping or beating innocent passengers and accusing them of a dry run is the opposite.

[So is inventing a racist, xenophobic “hero” story to send to all your Facebook friends. See: Petruna, Tedd]

Henry on December 12, 2009 at 1:37 pm

Henry – glad I could be of assistance in proving your point.

You wrote “Stomping or beating innocent passengers and accusing them of a dry run is the opposite.” Sometimes you need to use force to put these people (terrorists / muzzies) in their place. Yeah, it could get bloody, but has been seen, how many of these types of incidents have occured where you see these ragheads bloodied? None as far as I know, but we shouldn’t be afraid to use force. Oh yeah, and with your prescience, how can you tell if these terrorists had a plan to do something to the plane before it even left the ground? You need to consider ALL options.

Also, how can you tell which people on the flight are terrorists or not? Yeah, it’s a tough decision, but when a GROUP of people are coordinating their efforts, you have to err on the side of caution. Which other group of people do you see doing this? The last time I checked, no group of Catholic Nuns ever made a plane get diverted or delayed due to their actions. Yes, I would agree that Common Sense needs to also be applied.

Answer me one question. If you were on any of the flights on 9/11, what would you have done cupcake? Would you have tried to talk nice to the muzzies? Also, think of this. What if there were people on the flights on 9/11 who might have had a more post 9/11 attitude and reacted before the planes even got off of the ground?

Jarhead on December 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm

Whatever happened to citizen’s arrests and air marshals? This “behavior” is an attempt to discern the apathy/pc or coward level of average passengers. There will be more probes and until “the laws” are changed to promote anti-muslim attitudes then the U.S. and the west is screwed. They’ll just keep picking away little by little.Brainwashing their kids born from polygamous baby making relationships exponentially increasing the take-over through ideological publications and nit-picking us with our laws to protect and promulgate/enable them. The enemy is islam..period. Once they have the numbers up to the right level,so will our collective number as well. No more muslims and jail/deport polygamists social welfare suckers.

boru on December 12, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Jarhead. You’re like Guliani.

A noun. a verb. 9/11.

Henry on December 12, 2009 at 4:25 pm

And Jarhead, you didn’t answer my question. I guess on purpose, because I don’t believe you have a good one.

How can I tell if a person is a terrorist?? Since you reference the attacks in 2001, I would say if these men had weapons and started to shout commands at the flight crew–that’s a good reference point.

Now, MY argument was why do you think anytime there is an incident on a plane it involves “muzzies” and they are terrorists? I mean, are you just that racist?

Tedd Petruna’s account [though completely falsified, since he wasn’t even on the plane] stated Muslims were in “full attire” and shouted “infidel dog” at an attendant. The the story was spouted by extremist radio hosts [such as Schlussel] who amplify it enough so that men like yourself can feel bravado by saying how much you wanna kill “muzzies.” And the cycle continues.

Lastly, do you have any idea what a true threat to this country is? Because when you cry wolf this often, it makes me feel like the terrorists are already winning. I bet you believe in torture and holding men without trial[correct me if I erred], both of which are the antithesis to the bedrock of this country:

Freedom. Liberty. Justice.

And you want to throw those out the window because you’re a scared little boy, cowering and tugging the sleeve of your momma. Why don’t you keep ranting in anonymous comment threads and let the adults in charge keep us safe?

Henry on December 12, 2009 at 4:42 pm

I’m completely outraged by what’s happing to our country under President Husane. It’s time to start taking the fight to the terrorists! We know who they are because we know what they look like. They don’t even try to hide their clothes or skin or features or religion. They just go walking around, trying to intimidate us. Their laughing at us. You know they are.

Well I’m fed up. There are plenty of muslims right in my neighborhood now – and it used to be a safe place. I bet some of you are in the same boat. It’s time to start showing them that their unwanted.

Shall we start tomorrow night? We’re all in danger until they’re gone from our country. Maybe even from our planet.

Wayne Clearwater on December 12, 2009 at 5:35 pm

Also friends, what’s with the cute name – muzzies? Like fuzzy wuzzies? These people are pure evil and get away with pretending their not. Let’s not pretend. Does anyone have a more appropriate name?

Wayne Clearwater on December 12, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Raghead, pedophile, terrorist, zoophile, camel jockey, terrorist, goat roper, sand rat, terrorist, …

    Jarhead on December 12, 2009 at 8:49 pm

      Ha! You forgot “goat raper”.

      Wayne Clearwater on December 12, 2009 at 9:24 pm

“God Haters”

Brock Montana on December 12, 2009 at 5:45 pm

Wayne, Brock…YOU are the problem in this country.

You’re the American Taliban. Extremists who want to hurt a minority population because of the actions of few.

You’re the American Al Qaeda. Xenophobic low intelligence neanderthals who want to “cleanse” your neighborhoods. Like Sadr City and Tikrit.

I’m satisfied you’re ilk are a MINORITY in my country. A far-right fringe that no one listens to [except hack radio jocks] and with no real power to effect any change in your communities. And that’s the way you’ll remain. Marginalized, penned up and ridiculed. And how appropriate.

Henry on December 12, 2009 at 7:58 pm

Henry,
We are entering a different time. Nationalist parties are gaining ground even in liberal Europe. Even “enlightened” Switzerland is passing laws specifically aimed at ragheads.

And Americans are tired of pansies like you talking about being ‘fair’ to our enemies – who will stop at nothing to strike us again. We want strong authoritarian rule that will step in destroy our enemies before they destroy us. And if your not careful, you may find yourself on that list.

We’ve got all the guns. But we’re not going to need them. We’re going to have a president Palin. And she has the balls to force the bad element in our country to straighten up or shut up.

You’ll see. Fox News is number one. And it’s working.

Wayne Clearwater on December 12, 2009 at 8:47 pm

In fact, the British National Party (the “Whites Only” party) just won seats in the London Assembly, the county council and the European Parliament.

Yes, it’s 1938 all over again. And we’re the good guys. Again.

We’re going to make this country clean. And what could be wrong with that?

Wayne Clearwater on December 12, 2009 at 8:54 pm

BWAHAHA!! President Palin?? Anyway…

Goodness, goodness. Listen, Wayne, you’re not a new phenomenon. Civilized populations have dealt with people like you before. We’ve marginalized you. You may have the guns, but you also have teh stupid.

Make this country clean? I mean, do you even know your history? Native Americans are what to you? Just God’s little preamble to the rise of the White man?

I mean, is Heaven segregated, too? Can you even answer that?

Who Would Jesus Kill?

Henry on December 12, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    henry, Jesus will kill EVERYONE (muslim, hindu, bhudist, athiest, etc…) who has not received Him as Lord and Savior, read the book of Revelation!

    bob on December 13, 2009 at 8:26 am

Thanks for proving my point.
“Native Americans are what to you?” They’re GONE, Henry. So we don’t have to deal with them.

“Civilized populations have dealt with people like you before.” I assume your referring to Native Americans.

You can talk your bleeding-heart talk. Action is what matters. Have you read the comments on this list? The people are almost ready to be lead. We just need the right leader.

Speak up people! Which side are you on? Do we start to stand up to these raghead terrorists with a show of force? Or do we sit on the sidelines and make mamby-pamby pro-raghead speeches like Henry?

Speaking of others on this list – what, exactly, are you doing on this list Henry?

Wayne Clearwater on December 12, 2009 at 11:27 pm

Debbie, I just found your website for the first time and a I am totally appalled that a Jewish person would condone and support the kind of racist name-calling and violence promoting rhetoric contained on this and other threads on your blog. I believe in free speech but since this is your own blog and you purport to be a religious person, I can hardly believe that the path to living a righteous life includes fanning the flames of hatred and violence toward others just for holding a belief or being born in a certain area on the earth. Don’t you know that the most important tenant of Judaism is that the life of a human being is sacred. Don’t you know that we all (even your dreaded Muslims) have souls? Don’t you believe G-d created all of us (including your dreaded Muslims) in his image? Shame on you for forsaking certain human beings because of where they were born or where their parents or their parents parents are born.

sophia leto on December 12, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    [sophia leto – Shame on you for forsaking certain human beings because of where they were born or where their parents or their parents parents are born.]

    If you and your ilk would reverse the rectal cranial inversions you are suffering through you would realize we are up against a violent, fascist ideology (Islam) that seeks to destroy us all through any means necessary (both violent and non violent) unless we first accommodate their every whim and again after that unless we become one of them.

    Their “holy” teachings mandate this, their leading authorities have always recognized this (even today, Al-Azhar University – where Obama spoke, the leading authority in Sunni Islam recognizes the need for Jihad – both violent and non violent – against “Infidels” simply because they are infidels. And don’t even get me started about Iran and the Shiites), and many millions of Muslims advocate it. Except for some astute “marketing” types among them (most notably CAIR) no one even tries to hide the violent side. However even they push for the non violent jihad and sometimes they slip up and are caught supporting the violent jihad.

    Shame on YOU for allowing political correctness to keep you in a state of denial.

    I_AM_ME on December 14, 2009 at 9:07 am

Wayne, I’m in. But not for tomorrow night. We must act collectively so send a strong message. Can we find 12 defenders of liberty? jarhead? boru?? howardroark? den? perception of truth? fighter? drakken? larry? mark?

Brock Montana on December 13, 2009 at 12:10 am

You can count on me! I even know where to find a big bunch of ‘em. They’re at my JOB, if you can believe that.

warrior or freedom on December 13, 2009 at 12:17 am

Hey people, don’t go beating up Muslims. Wayne Clearwater is just a character I invented for some research here. Everything he says is wrong, BTW. Take it from the guy who wrote it.

What amazes me is that, if I post something Debbie doesn’t like, the posting gets deleted right away. It happened already once in this thread.

But when I’m out here trying to raise a posse for some violence against random strangers who “look Muslim”, that posting is apparently AOK. It was up *before* my posting that got quickly deleted. So we know it was seen.

It’s not surprising, seeing as a lot of this site is dedicated to raising RABID hate, fear, and lies against Muslims. RABID

Debbie, is this really what you want to do with your life? Do you think you can land your own Fox News Fearcast *and* be the leader of the New Pogroms?

You might be right. But I hope you’re not. Maybe you can start by [ghost]writing The Protocols of the Elders of Islam.

I expect you’ll delete this message. But I’ll be saving the page’s HTML and screen grabs just for good luck.

– Not Really Wayne Clearwater

Wayne Clearwater on December 13, 2009 at 12:52 am

Fellow Americans, it is OUR responcablity to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We can not trust an air-line that can’t or won’t protect you while your on their aircraft. It’s just not the “Rag-Heads” that we should watch, it is also those corperations that seek their bottom dollar above all else. (sorry for the spelling)

Tom Peyton on December 13, 2009 at 2:58 am

Is it xenophobic to be wary of people who might want to kill you?

Dahlia on December 13, 2009 at 3:44 am

Maybe also trying to provoke airlines into a situation where they can shake them down for a large settlement? …in addition to desensitizing them to any future hijacking attempts.

yonason on December 13, 2009 at 8:04 am

I just want to say that I have studied (not followed) islam for years. the koran instructs EVERY muslim to convert or kill an infidel, an infidel is ANYONE who is not a muslim (Christian, Jew- especially a Jew, bhudist, athiest, hindu, or tree hugger etc…) their one and only goal is for islam to be the only religion on the planet. EVERY terrorist (with the eception of timothy mcvey) has been muslim! EVERY muslim is a POTENTIAL terrorist because of the teaching they receive from the time they can walk. to those who say islam is a “peaceful religion”, BULLSH%T!!! IF a muslim is “peaceful” it is in spite of islam, not because of it! another point, mike tyson is not a “peaceful” man, he is a violent man, a man who converted to islam in prison, which by the way the PREDOMINATE religion happens to be islam, and we know how prisoners are released back into society via the revolving doors at the prison gates by weak liberal judges and politicians. obammy doesn’t speak for me when he says “America will never be at war with islam” as long as islam exsist, they will be at war with ALL non muslims regardless of nationality! barak HUSSEIN obamma a muslim terrorist best friend.

bob on December 13, 2009 at 8:52 am

TO TRULY LOVE AMERICA IS TO TRULY HATE ISLAM!!

Are you listening or reading Wayne Clearwaer or whatever?

America is freedom. Islam is repression. Muslims want an Islamic theocracy for the lands they live in. America’s Constitution does not call for the country to establish a state sponsored religion. All nations with a majority Muslims people have a Islamic theocracy. Free people want to believe in their faith free from government intervention. Free people hate repression, therefore loving America is to be against Islam and what it stands for. Islam calls for state sponsored repression of non-believers.

You liberals have this romantic notion you will change Islam on your terms. You believe the BS that Muslims will be the “religion of peace”. These liberal romantic notions of defending Islam while it is at war with civilized people of the world only exacerbates your delusions. Or maybe you guys get your rocks off in some type of Stockholm Syndrome that Muslims have you brainwashed in.

CaliforniaScreaming on December 13, 2009 at 3:20 pm

Following up on Bob’s post:

The real problem with Islam is simple:

1. A liar named Mohammed created a phony story, where messengers of God decreed there was to be ONE AND ONLY ONE religious AND POLITICAL ORDER.

2. To effect this “change” Mohammed drafted his lie very cleverly, by (among other things) rewarding misogynistic men with carte blanche to subordinate and abuse women, and motivating soldiers in his cause with bs like virgins in heaven, etc.

3. Generations later, this political-religious system has been handed down to hundreds of millions of people, most of whom don’t really know what they’re praying (because it’s in Arabic)

4. Muslims do, however, seem to have a convenient penchant for “discovering their faith” when it comes in handy — like when it’s time to lie in court (our courts are illegitimate since they’re not shariah), or justify hatred and violence toward innocent citizens of the United States when they feel affronted by our government’s policies overseas.

The bottom line — Islam is not JUST A RELIGION, it is a COMPLETE SET OF RULES FOR RELIGION, SOCIETY AND GOVERNMENT.

In other words, for one to fully accept Islam, one must advocate SHARIAH and therefore THE OVERTHROW OF THE UNITED STATES’ CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT. This is called TREASON!

So … sorry PC apologists, but the only viable solution is RENOUNCE ISLAM OR LEAVE THIS COUNTRY … don’t blame us, blame that liar prophet of yours….

BTW, in addition to LYING UNDER OATH in our courts, Islam also allows one to pretend to renounce Islam to save one’s ass…. So yes, that means actively rooting out these hidden threats, because ANY MUSLIM IS A POTENTIAL FT. HOOD TYPE PERP OR WORSE — the only thing required is they “embrace” their f’d up “religion”

Oh and one more thing: Freedom of religion is enshrined in our Constitution; freedom to endorse, advocate or pursue another system of government is not. So it’s simple — protect religions, but only those without mandated political structures. GET ISLAM OUT OF AMERICA NOW.

Michael B. on December 13, 2009 at 3:46 pm

asian! exactly the word they used in england when those riots were occuring. which makes you think of chinese people. diverting you from the fact they are all muslim pakis who they are talking about.

Bob S. on December 15, 2009 at 7:27 am

This is hilarious. If by some leap of logic your assertions about this story are true, how does that make Tedd Petrunas not a liar? All of the incidents in the world won’t put him on the plane he wasn’t on. Get over it. Your knee jerk reactions and general lack of intellect allow you to be played by anyone with a fantastic story you’d like to believe.

ChrisO on December 16, 2009 at 2:19 pm

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