June 29, 2007, - 7:54 pm

Dhiren Barot, Brit Al Qaeda Leader, Suspected Mastermind of Today’s London Car Bombs

By Debbie Schlussel
Remember Dhiren Barot a/k/a “Britani” [the Brit]? I recently told you about the British Al-Qaeda cell sachem, whose detailed plans to bomb New York’s financial district with limousine bombs were released by Scotland Yard (click on the links at this link to see the plans).
Well, guess what? He’s suspected as the likely mastermind of today’s two car bombs that were foiled in London. ABC News reports that video pics of the man setting the bomb strongly resembles a suspect once in their custody in connection with the Barot plot in New York of which I wrote previously.
Predictably, liberal websites criticized me for rhetorically asking readers to “Guess the Religion” of the bombers. But–no surprise–I was quite apparently right on target.

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British authorities are seeking three suspects in Muslim-dominated Birmingham.
“Religion of Peace,” Baby. Well, actually, lots of pieces . . . had the bombs gone off as planned.

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Debbie
Not only note the religion, but note the commonality that Dhiren Barot has with Adam Gadahn, Jose Padilla, Suleiman Faris/Johnny bin Walker Lindh, Richard Reid, John Allen Mohammed – not only are they all Muslims, but they are all CONVERTS TO ISLAM!!! That ought to send warning bells – whenever one encounters a moron who’s converted to Islam, he should be assumed to be a potential thug. While it is possible, if not plausible that a person may be born to Muslims but grow up to be relatively agnostic, those who CONVERT to this death cult ought to be under a microscope.
After all, once you take out all the criminal and jihadi components out of Islam, what remains is virtually indistinguishable from other religions. Therefore, the ONLY reason one would convert from Christianity/Judaism/Hinduism (in Barot’s case) to Islam is to turn on one’s own criminal tendencies. Society needs to pre-empt that by treating them exactly like they would have treated converts to Nazism during WWII or Communism during the Cold War.
P.S. Can you enable some HTML tags such as em, and strong, and blockquote, so that it’s easier to cite and stress what we are stating?

Infidel Pride on June 30, 2007 at 2:03 am

Debbie – “But–no surprise–I was quite apparently right on target”
Lucky guess.

feralcat9 on June 30, 2007 at 2:36 am

Do not worry about us here in America, Debbie.
We are safe.
No one will be able to sneak into OUR country and blow things up.
12 miles of fencing have now been completed on our southern border!!!
Of course 5 of that 12 miles is actually gates.
All the gates have on them:
1) Press one for Spanish (with a response of “Welcome Amigo”).
2) Press two for Arabic (with a response of “Welcome honored member of the Religion of Peace”).
3) Press three for English (with a response of “Go to Hell you damed bigoted nativist who does not want what is right for America!!!”).

feralcat9 on June 30, 2007 at 2:40 am

feralcat9
Make that
2) Press two for Arabic (with a response of ‘Assalam alaiqum’) [I’m forgetting the Arabic for ‘Death to America’ – maybe someone can fill in.]

Infidel Pride on June 30, 2007 at 3:34 am

Since when has Jimmy Smits been Muslim?

Ralph Gizzip on June 30, 2007 at 10:38 am

“right on target”
Who else would it be? You dont hear about the Christians or the Jews doing these things.
Most people(if not all) know that these religious violent nutcases usually exist in the Muslim religion. Most people are just afraid of being pointed upon and called racist.
It is sad. What I dont understand is..how can these western born muslims do these things? How on earth are they so radical? I am a foreign born Indian (catholic by faith), but this is my home. I dont understand the Muslim mindset.
-Mark D.

markccu on June 30, 2007 at 12:55 pm

I guess all the White boys and girls will have a tough time preserving any scrap of their culture if they just stand there and let the muslims flood in. Good thing they’re not racist, that would be bad.

steve ventry on June 30, 2007 at 1:42 pm

A quote from the incident at Glascow today “Bomb technicians called to the scene established that it was filled with volatile materials and rigged with a sophisticated mobile phone-actuated trigger.” And they still come in weekly for those F&#@ing tracfones.

Tired on June 30, 2007 at 3:39 pm

“And they still come in weekly for those F&#@ing tracfones.”
FEAR not my friend. EVS is on the case.

J Leyn on June 30, 2007 at 5:15 pm

The Religion of Piece (of Arm, of Leg, of Torso) strikes again.

pdigaudio on June 30, 2007 at 11:08 pm

I hate to say it, but only when they begin to succeed can we start to do something about it.

steve ventry on July 1, 2007 at 2:14 am

Infidel pride,
The Arabic for “death to America” is, “al moot li Amreka”
It’s usually coupled with “al moot lil yahood” (death to Jews).
Just the fact that I know how to say those phrases shows that something’s very wrong with the world. Mish kidda? (not so?)

stevecanuck on July 1, 2007 at 2:22 am

All the relgions are the about the same? Huh, Am I missing something here?
Which religion talks about cutting off the hand and feet on opposite sides and practices it? Which religion promotes phoney interfaith dialogue? Which religion says that killing non-believers for its gawd aweful god is hallal? Which religion There are so many distinctions I could write a book on it like Robert Spencer.

lonewolf on July 1, 2007 at 10:19 am

A side note regarding the 2 car bombs in London’s
theater district you won’t read about in the
lame stream media…
Why the “Tiger,Tiger Nightclub” was targeted ?
Answer–Thursday was Ladies night at the club !
I’m sure this was purely coincidence,because we all
know Islam is a Religion of Piece (many,many,many
pieces) & scuzlims have the utmost respect for
women.

billybob on July 1, 2007 at 10:32 am

Scuzlims…. that works!

lonewolf on July 1, 2007 at 10:36 am

What is so exclusively british about this would be car bomber anyways? I’d like to give a round of applause to the media for once again for their ass covering p.c. s**t work on this story. If they want to continue to play guess – the -ethnic/religious-backround-of-the-terrorist game with us,I’d gladly welcome it and will probably win by out guessing them. CAIR and the rest of the radical islamic mainstream news networks are no doubt, pulling the strings of ABC since ABC has been disenfranchised from p.c. to report the news the way it is out of fear of offending the sensibilities of the 7th century throwbacks who aare dictating them on how to cover a story without racialy profiling villain. Even if the villian’s racial/religious backround were to be disclosed, there are guidlines on how to do so without vilifying him.Infact the media would then on go to hold the England culpable of these foiled car bombimg plots for being a racist islamophobic society in which Barot is a victim of. Booh Hoo! I wouldn’t call this segment of Islam a religion of anything. The political cult of death and mayhem suites their title better. A religion that preaches hate and inccesant violence against others is an insult to the name of religion. Its more like gansterism or a death cult.

Jew Chick on July 1, 2007 at 11:24 am

Iran and Venezuela are discussing how to ‘defeat imperialism’, which means, strangle US with oil. We need to get over being nice-nice and start talking as a country about attacking these muslims, ALL the muslims, and take their oil from them. We don’t have a choice. Animals fight for resources, we better learn how to fight for them, too. Then, we can finally end this CHARADE of multi-culturalism with people who are COMPLETELY incompatible with us.

steve ventry on July 1, 2007 at 12:07 pm

stevecanuck
Thanks. al moot li Islam! al moot li Muslimeen!

Infidel Pride on July 1, 2007 at 3:54 pm

As a Muslim, I just wanted to drop in and say hello.
I totally understand the posters’ discontent regarding the extremist Arab/Muslim world, and how it appears to be a grave threat to our Western world. You should be upset. It’s terrible what’s happening out there.
In my humble estimation, the problem is that extremist Islam places too much trust in their religious leaders and clerics. These clerics can be angry and agenda-driven. So when a Muslim comes and asks a question about Islam, he is basically at the mercy of the cleric. If the cleric wants to, he can urge the questioner to commit violent acts. Because the cleric is so highly respected in the community (because he allegedly went to cleric school), whatever he says will go. He can then point to the passages in the Quran which discuss warfare, twist them out of context, and show them that this is the justification for them to wreak havoc.
I don’t believe in clerics. I think they’re largely morons, grabbing power for their own selfish aims. I learned about Islam myself. And in doing so, I could see that those passages of warfare were meant to be illustrated in the context of the war being fought during the 7th century, and are not applicable today. Any Muslim with half a brain can figure that out. Islam repeatedly teaches learning and questioning things on your own. It is the clerics and culture that have corrupted things so much, to make a Muslim believe that he or she is not “good enough” to learn about Islam on their own.
So I’d say the solution for Muslims is to trust in themselves. Learn things by themselves, and without the agenda of the clerics. G-d says that religion is supposed to be easy, and if we follow our hearts in an uncorrupted and uninfluenced fashion, I really believe that we’ll find truth and peace.
Is there hope? I think so. It’s interesting to note that Christianity went through things like the Inquisition and Witch-hunts about 1400-1600 years after being founded. And Islam is now about 1400 or so years old. Over the years, Christianity “grew up”, and I believe that Islam will someday grow up as well.
I hope I’ve been helpful. Thanks for your time, Ms. Schlussel, and all of you.

Discourse on July 2, 2007 at 6:27 am

Discourse — Thank you for the very nice statement about Islam and the problems therein. That is not the issue. You see, WE know and understand what these people are doing. This could or will be solved one of two ways: 1) people like you need to stand up for a change and in great numbers, and point out that these clerics and their ilk have to go. They are NOT teaching any kind of religion at this point. All they teach is hate, murder, and mayhem. 2) we, the free people of the world who do not subscribe to this cult-like fanaticism, will be forced to defend ourselves with extreme prejudice. This is coming and innocent people like you may very well be caught up in it. If that happens, you have your Islamic clerics to blame, not those who would do you harm. Bottom line, stand up and take responsibilty for your own. If you can’t or won’t, someone else will do it for you!

FreeAmerican on July 2, 2007 at 9:29 am

Discourse said; “I hope I’ve been helpful.”
No, you haven’t. You’re the typical sneaky muzlum who appears to be genuinely humble, yet you place the blame for islam’s insanity at the feet of “unnamed clerics”.
You claim that the qur’ an’s passages are taken out of context and twisted.
You find no fault whatsoever with islam and its teachings.
You then went on to equate Christianity with barbarism.
This is the same tactic…the same M.O. that is taught in the qur’ an, and as it is taught in the mosque.
You also said; “Islam repeatedly teaches learning and questioning things on your own.”
No, it doesn’t. Islam teaches its adherents to accept, UNQUESTIONABLY ACCEPT, the tenets of islam. Islam demands its adherents to NOT question anything about the religion. Islam, by its very definition means – SUBMISSION. Islam is a CULT.
You also said; “I totally understand the posters’ discontent regarding the extremist Arab/Muslim world…”
You forgot to mention the “muzlum extremism” in Indonesia, in Asia, in Africa, in the former Soviet Union, etc. It appears that wherever you find a murder-monkey muzlum…you will find muzlum murder.
Since islam was invented in the 7th century by a blood-thirsty, murdering-maniac, islam has been on a global jihad for 1,400 years with no signs of stopping.
You’re a typical deceptive muzlum.
FYI, here are just some passages straight from the horse’s mouth (the profit moohammad – bees pee upon him) that are strewn about in the qur’ an:
Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”
Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”
Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”
Ishaq:325 “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious.”
Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”
Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Ishaq:324 “He said, ëFight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'”
Qur’an:9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.”
Ishaq:300 “I am fighting in Allah’s service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah’s war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good.”
Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”
Qur’an:8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”
Ishaq:326 “Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty good fighters they will defeat two hundred for they are a senseless people. They do not fight with good intentions nor for truth.”
Bukhari:V4B52N63 “A man whose face was covered with an iron mask came to the Prophet and said, ëAllah’s Apostle! Shall I fight or embrace Islam first?’ The Prophet said, ëEmbrace Islam first and then fight.’ So he embraced Islam, and was martyred. Allah’s Apostle said, ëA Little work, but a great reward.'”
Bukhari:V4B53N386 “Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: ëWhoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.'”
Muslim:C34B20N4668 “The Messenger said: ëAnybody who equips a warrior going to fight in the Way of Allah is like one who actually fights. And anybody who looks after his family in his absence is also like one who actually fights.”
Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”
Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”
Qur’an:8:72 “Those who accepted Islam and left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause with their possessions and persons, and those who gave (them) asylum, aid, and shelter, those who harbored them – these are allies of one another. You are not responsible for protecting those who embraced Islam but did not leave their homes [to fight] until they do so.” [Another translation reads:] “You are only called to protect Muslims who fight.”
Muslim:C9B1N31 “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought.”
Bukhari:V9B84N59 “Whoever says this will save his property and life from me.'”
Qur’an:8:73 “The unbelieving infidels are allies. Unless you (Muslims) aid each other (fighting as one united block to make Allah’s religion victorious), there will be confusion and mischief. Those who accepted Islam, left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause (al-Jihad), as well as those who give them asylum, shelter, and aid – these are (all) Believers: for them is pardon and bountiful provision (in Paradise).”
Tabari IX:69 “Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.”
Qur’an:48:16 “Say (Muhammad) to the wandering desert Arabs who lagged behind: ëYou shall be invited to fight against a people given to war with mighty prowess. You shall fight them until they surrender and submit. If you obey, Allah will grant you a reward, but if you turn back, as you did before, He will punish you with a grievous torture.”
Qur’an:48:22 “If the unbelieving infidels fight against you, they will retreat. (Such has been) the practice (approved) of Allah in the past: no change will you find in the ways of Allah.”
Qur’an:47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”
Qur’an:47:31 “And We shall try you until We know those among you who are the fighters.”
Tabari VI:138 “Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting.”
Tabari VI:139 “Allah had given his Messenger permission to fight by revealing the verse ëAnd fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah.'”
Qur’an:9:19 “Do you make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Mosque, equal to those who fight in the Cause of Allah? They are not comparable in the sight of Allah. Those who believe, and left their homes, striving with might, fighting in Allah’s Cause with their goods and their lives, have the highest rank in the sight of Allah.”
Ishaq:550 “The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling.”
Qur’an:5:94 “Believers, Allah will make a test for you in the form of a little game in which you reach out for your lances. Any who fails this test will have a grievous punishment.”

Thee_Bruno on July 2, 2007 at 9:34 am

Discourse:
Nice try, but you fail !
We in the west are no longer fooled by your attempt
at “taqiyya” (dissimulation,deceit).Many have done
their homework by reading the Qur’an,aHadith,Sunnah
etc. & we understand that Islam is a FRAUD & IS NOT
a religion but rather an IDEOLOGY of HATE &
INTOLERANCE which is more accurately described as a manifesto of war against mankind.Muhammad,PBUH,(porkbutt be upon him)was an insane madman who deceived the gullible ignorant Arabs into believing his nonsense.
BTW,there can be no reformation in Islam you dumbass because the “Gates of Ijtihad” are CLOSED forever as so established by all schools of Islamic jurisprudence (madhahib).You need to go back to school to be re-programed or some sick imam is going to issue a fatwa on your empty head.

billybob on July 2, 2007 at 10:28 am

The emissary of the ROP said the following:
It’s interesting to note that Christianity went through things like the Inquisition and Witch-hunts about 1400-1600 years after being founded. And Islam is now about 1400 or so years old. Over the years, Christianity “grew up”, and I believe that Islam will someday grow up as well.
Hmmmm. Meanwhile, as we await the ROP to get out of puberty, the followers of this delinquent mythology should expect harsh diciplinary action from their daddies (Christians and Jews). At the rate the ROP is going, the aforementioned dicipline may result in a very short lifespan. Believe this: It will not hurt us more than it hurts you

Southernops on July 2, 2007 at 10:52 am

Infidel Pride,
The more I read about islam, the less I think it has things in common with Christianity and other peaceful religions. Anyone else find this to be true?
Thee Bruno,
Right on !!! I knew you were writing the paragraph as soon as I started reading it. History lesson appreciated as always!!

TheAwakenedOne on July 2, 2007 at 1:37 pm

I don’t know who these clerics are, because I’ve never gone to one, seen what they say, or what they do. Granted, not everyone feels the way I do about this, as I largely follow my heart and intellect in such matters. I believe we have those faculties for a reason, and as people start to wake up and realize this (many do), we’ll start to make progress.
You do seem very well-read about all this, but it seems that a lot of you have gone into learning about Islam with an intention to dig up as much negatives as possible. A sort of “gotcha” game if you will. Do you believe there are any positive aspects of Islam?
As for the “taqqiyah” accusation, I’d never even known what taqqiyah was until I started reading Robert Spencer. Of course, you won’t believe me, since my assertion of not knowing about taqqiyah can be like a double-taqqiyah or something. But if you have any faith in me as a fellow human, I assure you that I have never ever ever been instructed to perform(?) taqqiyah. We don’t all have some secret agenda or something. I work, watch the NFL and NBA, and sing on the side. I just want to be happy and free to pursue these interests — not to impose some secret agenda.
As far as the passages of the Quran go, the ones that were cited, I believe, were in the context of the specific war that was raging at the time. The nascent religion versus the Quraish, for example. Therefore, those decrees were not meant to extend into any other situation other than that very specific 7th century one. Most Muslims understand this. As far as the Hadiths go, there are extreme conflicts with regard to its collection, because of 9th century agendas and inconsistencies with the Quran.
And so I ask you all – what do you want of Islam? What would you like I do? What would you like that the Islamic world does? Thee_Bruno, do you believe that there is any hope for peace?
FreeAmerican, I’m beginning to agree. I’m thinking we really do need to stand up to those thugs that have ruined this religion.

Discourse on July 2, 2007 at 2:40 pm

Bottom line, muslims already HAVE land for them, 20-something countries or more. Why do they have to move in where WE live, too?? Don’t WE get a place to live?

steve ventry on July 3, 2007 at 8:20 am

Thank you, TheAwakenedOne, for the kind words. It’s nice to know that you appreciate what I write.
Happy 4th!

Thee_Bruno on July 3, 2007 at 1:29 pm

Intercourse posted the following;
ìI don’t know who these clerics are, because I’ve never gone to one, seen what they say, or what they do.î
Do you mean to say that youíre a muzlum and you havenít visited a mosque? You havenít heard the vitriol spewed from the mouth of an imam? C’mon!
BTW, what the imams are doing is just preaching what is in the qurí an ñ murder, mayhem, bondage, and misery. So how can you slime them?
ìÖI largely follow my heart and intellect in such matters. I believe we have those faculties for a reasonÖî
Sure we do. The TRUE God gave us the ability to reason, explore, and create. He also gave us the freedom of Will. Under islam, there is no reasoning, and there is no freedom of Will. The only Will that is tolerated/allowed is the Will of allah. Islam means submission to the Will of allah. Allah, via moohammad, tells its adherents when to pray, how to dress, how to address muzlums vs. infidels, whom to take as friends, how to deal with the infidel, how to bathe, how to conduct business (no interest on loans), etc. So, you are either a muzlum slackard, or youíre engaging in deceit. The latter is more likely.
ìYou do seem very well-read about all this, but it seems that a lot of you have gone into learning about Islam with an intention to dig up as much negatives as possible. A sort of “gotcha” game if you will.î
You donít have to dig very deep to find the ìnegativesî in islam. I, myself, posted just SOME of the edicts for war, murder, and enslavement all dictated from the horseís mouth, moohammad. And, thatís just as it pertains to the infidel ñ moohammad also has some not-so-nice methods of dealing with women. So, it isnít a ìgotcha gameî ñ itís all part of the effort to refute the lies of muzlums like you, and to show the rest of the world that the qurí an is chock full of passages only Satan would love ñ such as; kill the followers of Judaism and Christianity, among others.
ìDo you believe there are any positive aspects of Islam?î
Sure there are. However, any ìpeacefulî aspects of the cult are meant ONLY for fellow muzlums. Peace and brotherhood, as taught in islam, does NOT extend to the infidel.
ìAs for the “taqqiyah” accusation, I’d never even known what taqqiyah was until I started reading Robert Spencer.î
Again, youíre either a muzlum who has no concept of islam, or youíre engaging in deceit.
ìI just want to be happy and free to pursue these interests — not to impose some secret agenda.î
Good. Now, try to convince the other 1 billion members of your cult of your intentions.
ìAs far as the passages of the Quran go, the ones that were cited, I believe, were in the context of the specific war that was raging at the time.î
What specific war?! The only wars that were ìragingî were the ones that moohammad started to enhance his power and to enrich himself through conquests and thievery. Mainly, if you read those qurí anic quotes, you wouldíve discovered that they were only meant for the infidels (Christians and Jews).
Vaffanculo!
ìTherefore, those decrees were not meant to extend into any other situation other than that very specific 7th century one. Most Muslims understand this. As far as the Hadiths go, there are extreme conflicts with regard to its collection, because of 9th century agendas and inconsistencies with the Quran.î
This is just more muzlum jibberish that has no relevance to the history of islam or what itís about. In other words, more muzlum smoke and bullshit designed to confuse the infidel.
ìAnd so I ask you all – what do you want of Islam?î
To leave the rest of the civilized world alone, and not try to impose its will on modern man through a strategy of intimidation, war, murder, and mayhem.
ìWhat would you like I do?î
Take up skydiving. Only use smaller and smaller parachutes with each jump.
ìWhat would you like that the Islamic world does?î
There is NOTHING that the Islamic world does that any civilized person with at least two brain cells would agree with. It is rife with poverty, illiteracy, disease, war, violence, murder, strife and it is stuck in the Stone Age.
ìThee_Bruno, do you believe that there is any hope for peace?î
Let me allow YOU to answer your question:
1. The West allows muzlums to immigrate to their countries and allows them to practice their religion freely, openly and safely.
Islamic countries do not want Westerners into their countries except to use them as skilled workers. Islamic countries DO NOT tolerate any freedom of religion except islam.
2. How are the Western countries repaid by muzlums who are allowed to immigrate to those countries?
Those countries are overwhelmed with intolerance, violence, riots, murders, bombings, and people who not only donít assimilate but who try to impose their will upon the people of the host countries.
3. What religious group is hell-bent on using kids as human bombs as a way to achieve its goals while rationalizing it away by thinking they will be sent to paradise?
4. What religious group is hell-bent on conquering other states through long, drawn-out wars?
5. What religious group ambushes a bunch of kids in a schoolyard in Beslan, Russia, flies airplanes into buildings, blows up commuter trains, and vows to wipe Israel off the map ñ all in the name of said religion?
6. What religious group has been waging a 1,400 year long jihad since it was invented in the 7th century a.d. by a butchering maniac and pedophile?
Now, answer YOUR question about the hope for peace.
ìI’m thinking we really do need to stand up to those thugs that have ruined this religion.î
Nice try. The religion hasnít been ruined and it hasn’t been hijacked ñ itís been duly observed and practiced by its barbaric adherents for the last 1,400 years.

Thee_Bruno on July 3, 2007 at 1:39 pm

Funny, when I saw them hosing down the guy who set his pants on fire, ‘mastermind’ wasn’t one of the words that came to mind.

steve ventry on July 3, 2007 at 7:46 pm

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