January 22, 2010, - 12:36 pm

A Woman Sarah Palin & Kelly Ayotte Could Learn From

By Debbie Schlussel

I always marvel when conservatives are willing to drop all traditional values when they think they have a winning empty skirtsuit on their hands.  That includes dropping the values of a mother actually raising her kids rather than “warehousing” them with others (a term Michelle Fraudkin once used to describe working moms, until she became a warehouser, herself, and endorsed uber-warehouser Sarah Palin).

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Gretchen Whitmer: Liberal Michigan Senator Gave Up

Personal Political Ambitions to Raise Her Kids

When they don’t “warehouse” the kids, they have their wife a/k/a the emasculated Mr. Mom hubby do the diaper changing, etc. Yup, feminism has won over the Republican party and much of the willingly blind conservative movement. That’s the hallmark of feminism: women putting their career interests first and abandoning their families in favor of those.

And it’s not just Palin, it’s pro-illegal alien New Hampshire Republican Kelly Ayotte, who abandoned her five-year-old daughter and two-year-old son to be the state’s Attorney General and now to run for U.S. Senator from the state.  Sorry, but a hallmark of conservatism is taking personal responsibility.  And when these people selfishly discard caring for their child, so they can pursue their own professional goals, they are simply NOT being responsible.  Without exception, study after study shows that kids not raised by their mother are more likely to do drugs, do poorly in school, commit crimes, engage in pre-marital sex at an earlier age, and otherwise contribute in a negative way to American society.

All of these Republican alpha males with vaginal plumbing could take a page from Michigan State Senator Gretchen Whitmer, a liberal Democrat, who, interestingly, has a better idea of what it means to be a traditional–read:  responsible–mother.  (Whitmer was #8 on Maxim’s 2008 World’s Ten Hottest Politicians.) It’s the reason this woman, the Democrats’ top hope to regain the Michigan Attorney General seat, is dropping out of the race.  For once, she actually wants to be the woman in her family.

State Sen. Gretchen Whitmer added to the Democratic Party’s election-year intrigue Wednesday when she dropped out of the race for attorney general.

Whitmer, 38, of East Lansing was considered a top contender for the Democratic Party’s nomination at its state convention in August. She said the campaign, in which she raised more than $200,000, left her too little time to spend with her 6-year-old and 7-year-old daughters.

Her decision follows the Jan. 5 announcement by Lt. Gov. John Cherry that he was dropping out the gubernatorial race because of fund-raising troubles.

“This came after a lot of thought,” Whitmer said. “Continuing with a statewide campaign came at too great a cost to my kids at this time.”

Kudos to Ms. Whitmer. That takes guts . . . and it takes sacrifice. The kind of sacrifice that people like Sarah Palin and Kelly Ayotte aren’t willing to make even for their own kids. That says a lot about the level of sacrifice and personal responsibility they’d take for their prospective constituents (since Palin hasn’t ruled out 2012).

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Pro-Illegal Alien Kelly Ayotte Runs for Atty Gen, Abandons Kids

While it’s true that Whitmer is divorced, Palin and Ayotte are having their eunuch husbands and various other third parties raise their kids. There’s not much difference in their situations. Only in their respective responses. One–Whitmer–is a mother. The others–well, they’re womb and egg donors.

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55 Responses

I have to disagree on this one. I have worked in an AG’s office with many other dedicated women and mothers who love their children but had to help provide financially for them. Working mothers are role models as well, better that than being on the dole with taxpayer’s money. It is difficult raising children as a divorcee and commend her but not all of us can afford to stay home with our children. That does not make us egg donors instead of mothers.

CJ: There’s a difference between working in an AG’s office and being the AG, which is a 24/7 more than full-time job. Anyone who does that and is a mother to young kids cannot be both a good mother and a good AG or Governor. You cannot have it all. it’s an either or proposition or one of those things suffers–the kids or the constituents. And it’s hardly “role model” material, unless you want “role models” for how to have far, far less than ideal kids and country. DS

CJ on January 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm

The Palin bashing never ends.Does being Conservative mean you cant have a balancing act,between working and being a parent as well? This is not a one size fits all, especially if you have a good family network behind you. There are many, many successful working Moms. Unless you walk in the shoes of others you should not judge their life styles, it is just one persons opinion of moonlight.
Ronald and Nancy Reagan were good, decent parents, and look how rotten Ron and Patti turned out! There are many nice religious stay at home families with children, and the children turn into drug addicts, and criminals. Ambitious, loving working Moms, are to be admired, they are not living on the government dole.

N: The blind Palinmessiah gushing never ends. You are not a regular reader of this site and clearly came here merely to follow the instructions you got from the Palin fanatic camp and repeat its talking points. Your “this is not a one size fits all, good family network” BS sounds just like the leftist, feminist, New-Age psychobabble we’ve been hearing on Oprah for decades and from Hillary Clinton’s “It Takes a Village” declaration. If you truly believe that, both you and Sarah Palin need to join the camp you repeatedly echo: liberals. As far as “judging other lifestyles,” again you sound like a clueless liberal. I guess we shouldn’t judge gay marriage, gay adoption, transsexual operations, the Obamas , etc. DS

Niner on January 22, 2010 at 2:21 pm

In Illinois we have an attorney general, Lisa Madigan who has at least one child. However you would never know it since the press went out of its way to hide her pregnancy and has never publicized anything about her family. Most people here probably do not know that she is even married.

I_AM_ME on January 22, 2010 at 2:25 pm

It is an unpopular sentiment, but it does NOT make it untrue. I agree with DS and FINALLY someone else (other than Dr. Laura!) is not afraid to say this is what she believes.

I like Sarah Palin but I also thought peeps had the right to object to her being a working Mum to so many kids and take her to task for her daughter Bristol messing up big time. (However NOT to the extent the Libs and State-Run Media did…that was cruel and overkill…) If you’re going to be a Conservative, you have to live by the values. I have no care how hard it may be. The struggle enriches those whom walk it like they talk it.

The best women to raise their children are THEIR MOTHERS. Once you’re a Mum, your life should revolve around husband and family. If you choose to have kids w/out a husband…well, that’s YOUR problem.

Skunky on January 22, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Conservatives have little credibility when they don’t walk the family values they preach about. Nothing will ever replace the traditional family arrangement. Human nature has that effect on every one. Kids needs moms as well as dads and men need women and women need men. Whoever thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

NormanF on January 22, 2010 at 2:54 pm

I agree with Debbie. This lady doesn’t have to be out making a living, at least not the demanding job she was pursuing. I was shocked when I heard morning shows criticizing her for bowing out of the campaign. Once you become a parent, your kids should be your first priority. I would like to relocate to find a better job but I am going to muddle through so my son can finish HS in 18 months. Then, we will pursue other venues. I am fortunate that we have that option. And having said that, I am putting a few short months of final sacrifice so he doesn’t have to be uprooted in his final HS years. That is what parents are supposed to do. So kuddos to Whitmer.

Musiccgirl on January 22, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    How were you shocked morning shows were criticizing her for stepping down? The women of those shows gave up their families to have a morning show. They believe women should be troops and cops, they don’t think mothers should stay at home. Hello? Take that non sense to fox nation lady.

    I no longer call myself a conservative, the term has been played out by the likes of sean vannity and sarah palin. No I call myself a realist. And being a realist I find the defense of sarah palin in this situation to be outrageous. You people make me sick. Part of having traditional values is living them not just talking them like palin does. Palin’s voice and the way she talks is so damn annoying it should be cause for her to never speak in public again. And by the way palin will be campaigning for mcshame. haha how do you palin hacks defend that. George bush the third and you idiots are walking straight to the gas chamber. fox nation is just a click away leave this site for true believers.

    tyler on January 22, 2010 at 3:36 pm

oh, if only the bleeding heart liberal could come up with a different gripe !

pacrph on January 22, 2010 at 3:24 pm

Debbie
You didn’t think this through enough. If she wasn’t divorced, she would probably stay in the race. I am sure she would have her husband take care of kids or share the responsibility like Palin does. If you don’t see the difference in her being divorced, then you really are truly “hot to trot” to just blast conservatives, especially female ones. No one is perfect, not even you Debbie. Despite all that, I love reading your columns because you’re the only one really on top of Islamo fascism.

S: RIF–Reading Is Fundamental. I’ve repeatedly said in this entry and elsewhere that it is bad parenting to abandon your family and force your husband to be Mr. Mom. I thought this though quite enough. You simply didn’t bother to read it through. Either that, or you simply think a nation of Mr. Moms and husbands becoming the wives is a good thing. Either way, you don’t get it. We will never beat Islamofascism, with this Mr. Mom trend continuing. A lasting society is one where men occupy male roles and women occupy female ones. A matriarchy and Mr. Mom/career woman society will never survive and none has at any time in history. We won’t be able to defeat Islamic terrorists with Mr. Mom wimpy males and alpha females. That only happens in the movies. You simply don’t connect the dots. Never said I’m perfect, and clearly I’m not if you read this site and yet, it continues to be so lost on you. DS

sam on January 22, 2010 at 4:27 pm

Debbie you are spot on with this. I say this as a father of 3 kids who knows that children=sacrifices.

I totally respect people who choose not to have children, but if you DO have them, they are your ultimate responsibility.
I’m sorry, but raising children is alot of work and it cannot be done by a Nanny or daycare. The only exceptions that I have seen is when a Grandparent raises the kids (The Obamas are an example of this–Michelle’s Mother is living at the White House and basically raising the girls—not perfect, but a choice that I can respect).

If the kids are not given the Parenting they need–watch out–see Sarah Palin’s daughter and most of the Hollywood Star’s kids who end up druggies, dead or worthless.

By the way, I loved Ronald Reagan as President, but Michael Reagan (his Son) talked about hardly ever seeing his Dad except on Holidays after he became Governor of California.
He admits that this caused problems for he and his Siblings since their Mother’s (Jane Wyman & Nancy Reagan) were too busy to raise kids as well.

The truth hurts sometimes and thank you Debbie for speaking it.

jimmyPx on January 22, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Ron Jr. and Patty Davis are adults and made their choices. Blaming their parents at this point is ridiculous!

    AliceL. on January 24, 2010 at 10:43 am

I would agree. Entering into a full-time political career is a very bad move when one is raising small children.

Worry01 on January 22, 2010 at 5:01 pm

Ok so what happens when all the married mothers dissappear from the Republican ticket? As I recall the Republicans were railed for being the party of white men. Only single females with no kids can run for office on the Republican ticket?
If they get married while in office and give birth they should resign? The MSM would eat this up..non inclusive old white mans party……..
I do agree on the Mr. Mom thing, wrong direction and message for the family and country. Although I have taken days away from my business to spend with just my two kids.
Not sure what the answer is we need female candidates!!!
As for the lib from Michigan, good for her, one less lib to worry about. I would quit if I was a lib. too.
Revolution is coming.

mdreb on January 22, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Working is not “abandoning” your kids. Some of us had to go back to work because the man of the house could not support us and our children alone. If you want more women in the GOP, there will have to be working mothers. And don’t kid yourself: many corporations are not sympathetic to people with children. You would not believe some of the intrusive – and illegal – questions I was asked on job interviews years ago.

    AL: OMG, it’s the ghost of Betty Friedan haunting us from the grave. Working isn’t the same as running for office of a state and serving as a U.S. Senator or Governor. Regardless, plenty of people could support a family on one income if they gave up all the luxuries they have and won’t go without (like cable, etc.). DS

    AliceL. on January 24, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Apparently Debbie has no problem with women “quitting” (except when it is Palin). She called Governor Palin a “quitter”. So what is it: stay in a job or “quit” to “make time for family”????? We know that when men do it (as Beau Biden is doing) they are saying that they know that if they run for office again, they will lose.

    J: When did Sarah Palin quit to take care of her family? Never. She abandoned them to pursue political ambitions in the first place. When did Sarah Palin quit to get gazillions and, again, to pursue her own fame-seeking ambitions? When she barely served two years as Alaska Gov. and quit. Hardly the same thing. Time to get a clue for you, though, sadly, it likely won’t sink in. DS

    Julian on January 25, 2010 at 4:58 pm

let’s just keep women at home as housewives and moms… more jobs for the men. those will be manly 40-hrs-per-week jobs, too!

we’ll only need one family car; the womenfolk can wait until we get home to use the car, if they even know how to drive.

and have that damn dinner ready when i walk in the front door, woman!

schlussel, time to let your bar status slide and get hitched. you can still blog when the kids are taking a nap.

howardroark on January 22, 2010 at 7:24 pm

…and while were on the subject, what the hell is the deal with news shows and talk shows and such having panels of several overly-primped women trying to out-yell and overtalk the other know-nothing yentas on topics that – and let’s be honest – they would never be consulted on, bu ANYONE, in real life.

sheesh, this new trend bugs the living shit out of me.

howardroark on January 22, 2010 at 7:40 pm

I’d have to respectfully disagree with the analysis.

The old saw of “leaving to spend time with the family” is the time-honored utterance of politicans, both male and female, who realize that they don’t have a hope in Hades of winning their campaign. Whitmer was toast if she ran for AG and I’m sure her internal polls told her so in no uncertain terms. As such Whitmer is less to be celebrated for deciding to spend time with her family than for facing up to reality.

Aaron on January 22, 2010 at 10:48 pm

I have to agree w/Aaron. Whitmer was and is toast. Infact most of the Demo’s are right now. As far as Palin. I say you go woman. I came from a very large family and believe if you have a loving family nothing is impossible. Even the Presidency for Palin.It can be done and the family will be better for it. She already knew not to abort a child that is specially challenged and loved.That alone keeps a great family together.

Darlene on January 22, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Darlene, good post, this debbie just doesnt get it. She habitually bashs Palin. These monday morning quaterbacks sit and judge Palin, but I wonder how many of these pundits could achieve what Sarah has done in politics in her own state of Alaska.
    It is always easy to sit back and be a judge. As far as I know debbie isnt married or have children, so she should give it a rest!

    Niner on January 23, 2010 at 2:03 am

      What has Sarah Palin achieved in Alaska? Could you give us five examples of that?

      Also, Sarah seems to be more interested in running away from home, rather than dealing with her family troubles, which are many.

      Worry01 on January 23, 2010 at 6:39 am

        “Family troubles” – meaning what, exactly? Do you consider a baby who has Downs Syndrome a “problem”? I don’t – I consider it a loving choice. By the way: I am sometimes told to relax and do something for myself instead of for others. Do you mean Brystol? Do you have any teens in your family?

        AliceL. on January 24, 2010 at 10:40 am

          You really do jump to conclusions. Sarah Palin has many problems, including her daughter Bristol. You seem to have an abortion fixation that comes out at bizarre times. Would you like to explain that? Are you projecting your own problems on to others? If you need counseling, watch Dr. Phil on weekdays, or try the meth addict at the bus stop who would probably be better than Dr. Phil.

          Worry01 on January 24, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    You must be channeling Betty Friedan. Try reading “The Feminine Mystique” if you want to know where your ideas come from.

    Worry01 on January 23, 2010 at 6:46 am

      Agan, Mr. Worry – what do yoyu mean by “family troubles”? Oh, you mean the youngest child, don’t you! You are probably pro abortion.

      AliceL. on January 24, 2010 at 10:41 am

        Try reading what is posted before commenting. It will cause you less embarrassment in the long run.

        Worry01 on January 25, 2010 at 12:18 am

      Brystol is not a problem – jerks like you are, “Worry01″. Brystol has loving, supportive parents. She does not need “worriers” like you. You might try giving a little bit to the people in your family – if you have one.

      Julian on January 26, 2010 at 9:23 am

Gretchen Whitmer: Liberal? No way! Where’s the butch haircut, surgically pulled back face, ‘church lady’ pursed lips, the pearl necklace and way too snug pantsuit all too common to these women?
And she’s actually pretty and looks feminine… WOW… the mind boggles!

hmmmmmmmm…maybe she’s taking a break to reinvent herself as a conservative?
it’s the newest trend, ya know!

theShadow on January 22, 2010 at 11:31 pm

Debbie, speaking of Sarah Palin, will she still campaign for John McCain now that a true conservative will challenge him? J.D. Hayworth is going to challenge McCain in the primary. This is going to be HUGE!! Illegal immigration is THE Number 1 issue in Arizona. Hayworth WILL get Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s endorsement.

Hayworth has seen Scott Brown shock the world. Will Hayworth shock it again by ousting McCain in the primary? Palin has pigeon holed her airhead self by campaigning for McCain. Hayworth will run as a Tea Party conservative and Palin will be campaigning against a Tea Party candidates. How will all those Sarah-bots justify her actions? She is the part of the problems siding with McCain.

More Palin she did another HOprah appearance. Wow they are now BFFs. She seems so at ease with HOprah now.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/

CaliforniaScreaming on January 23, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Cali…maybe you can clear this up for me…I thought JD Hayworth was booted out of Congress because he was NOT tough enough on the illegal issues? I may be wrong. Maybe he saw the light after 2006. If so, I hope he beats McLame.

    Yeah, I believe that Sarah Palin (and I’m not a Palin-basher!) going on “Dirty Bitch” Winfrey’s show is kinda ponderous. DBW is NOT her ally! The world knows that her daughter made a HUGE mistake (and her path in life should be the TEXT-BOOK case against teen sex!) but going on DBW’s show AGAIN has me scratching my head. Why doesn’t DBW have that slag Nicole Ritchie on her show if she wants to crap on about unmarried sex? She’s a virtual bastard factory!

    Skunky on January 23, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    Its good to see someone else point out sarah palin is a retard like I’ve been feeling lately. I saw clips of her on oprah with bristol and she was talking about if she’ll have sex again. It was disgusting and sarah is like dont ya know does that mean your gonna get married soon? The woman is a pathetic joke just like her supporters. Her supporters are starting to remind me of huckabee people. Huckabee is worse than palin but there getting close to being in the same league.

    tyler on January 23, 2010 at 3:27 pm

      LOL…I’m right with you on Huckaphonie, Tyler. Man, I can’t even stand to listen to him speak.

      John Batchelor had a well written article that summed up Huckafraud to a T (However, I did not agree with JB’s religion bashing in same article on same topic).

      Skunky on January 23, 2010 at 10:40 pm

      You are nasty – Huckabee is a fine man and a good candidate. I have met him. Batchelor is a phony RINO who has Katrina Vandenheuvel from The Nation as a guest and fawns all over this uppereastside Manhattan phony who could not even name her congressthing. That’s right, Batchelor – pal up to the libs and watch what happens to your ratings.

      AliceL. on January 24, 2010 at 10:46 am

        LOL. I’m with you on Batchelor but if you buy into Huckafraud’s cornpone, syrupy crap he slings (it makes me wanna vomit!) than it’s fun to point at you and laugh because you were prolly an ardent JOHN EDWARDS supporter.

        Read the article first, Alice. I know what Batchelor is, but when you are right, you are right.

        Skunky on January 24, 2010 at 1:38 pm

          Batchelor kisses the rear end of the disgusting Max Blumenthal, the son of Sid Vicious Blumenthal. Max uses the words “teabagger” and describes Republicans as a bunch of Southern racist rednecks. He is also anti-Israel. Like his father, he is bad news yet the phony Batchelor defers to his “expert” opinion. Huckabee is a genuinely nice person. You would never hear him on Batchelor’s show attacking Israel.

          Julian on January 25, 2010 at 5:27 pm

          John who? I detect your prejudice against Southerners, by the way, and that does not speak well of you.

          AliceL. on January 25, 2010 at 9:05 pm

      Calling somebody a “retard”. Very nice. Aren’t you sweet!

      Julian on January 26, 2010 at 10:11 am

Let’s see how long Whitmer stays home. I predict within two years she is back on the scene or at least attempts to return to working again. Remember Susan Molinari, the former Representative from New York who showed so much promise and even gave a key note address at a Rebublican National Convention? She, too, had left Congress to raise her family then went on to CBS news for a stint. Not sure what she’s doing today (and I live on Staten Island, shame on me).

B: Susan Molinari is a fricking liberal joke, who only got in office in the first place on her father’s name. She quit while she was in the GOP leadership in Congress, not to raise her kids, but to make gazillions was as a CBS Saturday Morning Show anchor, where she didn’t last six months because she stank. It had nothing to do with taking care of her kids, which she never left a job to do. It had to do with the fact that she’s a talentless RINO hack. Good riddance to her. We hope she doesn’t come back. DS

Bob on January 23, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    There are rumors that Molinari may run for higher office but again, after being home for so many years (or whatever it is she was doing) she does not have traction. The same thing for any woman who leaves the work force for long. I have seen it – women with higher degrees who can no longer get appropriate work and even have to hide their education. Debbie can call names all she likes – I have seen this happen and yes, there are people who have to work.

    J: Susan Molinari is a fricking liberal joke, who only got in office in the first place on her father’s name. She quit while she was in the GOP leadership in Congress, not to raise her kids, but to make gazillions was as a CBS Saturday Morning Show anchor, where she didn’t last six months because she stank. It had nothing to do with taking care of her kids, which she never left a job to do. It had to do with the fact that she’s a talentless RINO hack. Good riddance to her. We hope she doesn’t come back. DS

    Julian on January 25, 2010 at 4:54 pm

All anyone has to do is research when the feminist movement began in earnest after WWII and compare the rise of troubled children. The more women went to work, the worse the kids got. Simple logic. In the beginning the majority of women did not have to work. It was a feminist badge of honor that was coveted. Pure selfishness.

hermster on January 23, 2010 at 4:08 pm

Skunky, JD got booted out of Congress because he was in involved in the POS Jack Abramoff scandal among other things. He is damaged goods. 2006 was not a good year for Republicans in tight races. Part of his district also in Tempe, a university town. However since McCain’s failed Amnesty attempt this is his first vote for re-election. Voters in Arizona are in no mood for McCain anymore. J.D.’s baggage versus McCain’s Amnesty.

Hayworth and Arpaio are working on a ballot initiative to get tougher on illegals at the state level.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/10/22/20091022immigration-initiative1022.html

CS: Right on. Plus Hayworth is a complete phony. While in Congress, he supported amnesty and was soft on illegal aliens. DS

CaliforniaScreaming on January 23, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Thank you Cali…I appreciate you filling me in.

    Skunky on January 23, 2010 at 10:42 pm

If her name was “Scott” Palin do you think anyone would be interested everything else being the same having limiited experience and that little experience she was a big spender and this man supporting feminism as Palin does. That answer is, of course not.

Feminism is all about socialism and big government and marxism so if one party supports Obama in his kind of Affirmative Action why if the Repubs do it with a woman is this any different. She supports Day Care and Title IX and the EEOC. This is all naked socialism. Both parties seem to support socialism at this time and this is the problem. Forget about Islamofacism. We will bankrupt ourselves with a feminism as an agenda.

In terms of Palin’s daughter not getting an abortion at least Mrs. Palin doesn’t want her daughter geting an abortion which good for her. This DOES NOT MEAN she would support stopping abortion FOR OTHERS and little suggest that she would. There are plenty of politicians that send THEIR KID TO PRIVATE OR RELIGIOUS SCHOOL. However, when it comes to SOMEONE ELSE’S CHILD they don’t care. Mrs. Palin because of her support of feminism and big government I don’t really think cares about somebody else’s daughter.

But, anyway if her name was Scott Palin nobody would be interested in her. Affirmative Action is Affirmative Action and sadly both parties are sliding into socialism and not rewarding based on qualifications and overall skills which one wonders the future of this country as Rome reached a point like this too and many countries when unqualfied women were giving position for EQUALITY purposes it was the beginning of the end of that society.

A: If her name was Scott Palin, she’d be just another laughing stock, failed political hopeful stuck back in Alaska. The sexism here–as you note–is all gyno-based affirmative action for this empty skirtsuit named Sarah. DS

adam on January 23, 2010 at 6:58 pm

Thank you for the boilerplate talking points. Yes, life is about making choices.

“if you want to be successful in the workplace, abort all children”

The real question is why have children in the first place if you are going to work 70 hours a week? Also, your statement is quite sexist with its implication that women are too weak and stupid to avoid pregnancies other than through abortions.

Worry01 on January 23, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Oh, and yes, we know how the morally bankrupty organization known as Planned Barrenhood likes to promote birth control – not! Their bread and butter is abortions. And the exploitation of young girls by opposing parental consent laws and by encouraging young girls to lie to their parents. By the way: birth control can fail. You are pro abortion, aren’t you – I can see that in your tone.

    AliceL. on January 24, 2010 at 10:49 am

      Is Gretchen Whitmer a teenager? Are we talking about abortion here at all? If you have kids, you need to take care of them properly. Your responsibilities do not end after the child’s delivery. Debbie’s point is that too many women think that they can have high power(70+ hours a week)careers and raise infants and small children at the same time. Such women will inevitably dump an undue burden on their spouses, or if wealthy enough leave their brood in the hands of nannies. It is like someone going to an “all you can eat” buffet and loading up their plate. This person will claim that they can handle it. After awhile, this glutinous diner leaves a plate that is picked at and only half eaten. The waste and mess is left for others to deal with. Sarah Palin found her family to be a convenient prop while pursuing a political career, but never thought for a second that her absence would lead to any problems. Even after her Bristol problem, she refused to genuinely acknowledge any responsibility or deal with the problem. Kelly Ayotte, though with younger children, is following the same path as clearly demonstrated by the photograph Debbie furnished. To really boil it down, it comes to whether you love yourself or your children more? If you do not have to work full time at a job with a long and demanding job to survive, why should you? Tubal ligation is there as well as birth control. Make a good decision, rather than a very bad fudge that hurts everyone else.

      sorrow01 on January 24, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    People like you, “Worry” could not care less about women. When somebody drops out of a race “to spend more time with family” they are pulling a Blago. Debbie unfortunately does not realize that times have changed. If you are out of the work force for a long time, good luck getting back in! And sometimes there is no choice but to return to work/career. A career is a terrible thing to waste, Worry.

    J: Uh, Worry cares far more than you do. You clearly couldn’t care less about American society. Sorry, but Gretchen Whitmer raised a ton of money and was the leading candidate. Blago was indicted and removed from office. There is absolutely no similarity here, and only someone clueless and completely uninformed would attempt to superimpose one. Just because “times have changed” doesn’t mean we should embrace the worst of the “change.” Times changed when the Nazis took over. Perhaps we should have accepted it. Times changed when FDR and Lyndon Johnson instituted big government, so we should just accept that. Times changed when President Bush allowed gazillions of Muslims to come into America, so we should just accept that and the 20 million illegal aliens here.

    I guess because “times have changed,” we should embrace increased crime, more kids with single mothers, and tax-funding of sex-change operations. Because, hey, “times have changed,” so anything goes. That’s a lowlife attitude for cowards. People like you are the reason America’s kids are growing up to be criminals and morons. You sound like Betty Friedan. You should head to where she is now, because you’re just as useful and your logic is even more warped. At least she was honest about her views and that she was a feminist and lefty. DS

    Julian on January 25, 2010 at 11:23 am

      Sorry, Debbie: my kid is smart and a great athlete. Betty who? I don’t believe what this female candidate is saying and I have to repeat that it is terrible to waste a career. Try returning to the work force when you have been out for a decade. Try returning if you have been abandoned and have to pay bills. Those are the women who end up on welfare. Is that what you want? Having no skills and/or NOT USING THEM for many years is what gets many women on welfare.

      Julian on January 25, 2010 at 4:52 pm

You didn’t read me either. I never said you were wrong about Mr Moms and such. I only said that the example was bad because she was divorced. That if she was still married, I am pretty sure she would have shared “Mom” duty with hubby. Otherwise I agree with you.
S

sam on January 25, 2010 at 7:40 am

(Apologies in advance if I sound like a snarky troll. This is not my intention and I’m not trying to irritate people by disagreeing with what is likely the prevalent opinion on this site. But I did want to express my reaction to the following bit of one of Debbie’s replies to another commenter.)

Debbie said: “Either that, or you simply think a nation of Mr. Moms and husbands becoming the wives is a good thing.”

Personally, I *do* think this is a good thing. Well, to be more specific I think it is a good thing to have a nation of people who are intelligent and free enough to choose their roles in life based on traits a tad more complicated than the shape and positioning of their genitalia.

For example, maybe people could choose to take on roles that match their interests, or or their strengths, or their particular environmental circumstances. And even so, this might well end up with most women being primary caregivers and most men being primary wage earners – and I also have no problem with this, because I’m referring to the process rather than simply the outcome. I hope I’m not alone in preferring that people put more into their decision-making about important things like life roles than “do I have breasts?” or “do I have a predisposition to have greater upper body strength?”

Dorothy Zbornak on February 10, 2010 at 3:01 pm

Palin is not Ronald Reagan in a dress. For all of the jokes about Reagan, he had a certain level of intellectual depth, and was a heavy reader. He could hold his own in conversations with George Will and William F. Buckley. He had core principles and beliefs, and for the most part stuck to them. Although he did make some serious mistakes (amnesty for illegals, not fighting terrorism more than he did), he cured us of Carteritis, until we became an Obamanation.

Contrast this with Palin. An empty suit who mouths the rhetoric of the conservatives, she has backed liberal female candidates, instead of backing real conservatives. She is not well read, and lacks the depth necessary to fight the good fight to make her case before the left wing press and before America.

If conservatives are going to try to bring this nation back from the brink of permanent ruin, then we will need a better spokesman (or spokesperson) than Palin.

Jonathan Grant on July 6, 2010 at 7:33 pm

I married at an early age, and had 3 sons by the age of 24. My heart was always to be home with my children, I didn’t want someone else raising my kids.

I wasn’t in the best situation, and my husband and I fought constantly about me working, but I made the decision that my children were more important than a career or having things.

I did the best I could with what I had even though I had to work, but I was there in the mornings when my children went off to school, and I was there when they came home.
I worked all my jobs around them—it was hard, and thankless, and there were days when I felt no one cared or even noticed.

Debbie I am glad you are pointing out the “1st place seat” that feminism has taken over women putting their families first.

Even “nice christian women such as Sarah Palin” have made it OKAY, but it is not okay—It’s out of Order.

If you can stay home and raise your kids because the husband can provide financially, then women need to make their family FIRST–

I know that principle is not popular, but even kids brought up in the worst environments with no dad, have a much better chance with a guiding Compass, and Force–a MOM.

Miss Truth on September 16, 2010 at 12:29 pm

How come this issue never came up about working moms when Hillary was running?

Patrick Power on September 18, 2010 at 9:42 pm

In some ways Debbie is living in the past. She doesn’t understand there are men who are male nurses and raise children by day, and fight in MMA bouts at night.

Truth on February 5, 2014 at 9:20 am

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