September 11, 2007, - 5:17 am

Barbarians Inside the Gate: On 6th Anniversary, Fed Confab w/ Muslim Terror Supporters Says It All

By Debbie Schlussel
When he was running for President in 1980, Ronald Reagan asked Americans, “Are you better off than you were four years ago?”
Today, we need to ask ourselves a new incarnation of that question:

Is America better off than it was six years ago today?

Is our country safer? More secure? Is our enemy weaker? Does it have less of a presence within our borders?

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Rosen, Moskowitz, Arena:

Fed Three Stooges Who Pandered to Terror-Funding Muslims

(Apologies to Larry, Curly, Moe & Shemp)

Six years later, the answer to every one of those questions is not only a resounding “NO,” we are actually far worse off than we were six years ago. America is less safe than it was on 9/10, and our enemy is far stronger. Far worse, our enemy within has made significant gains with the willing, panderincg hand of this administration.
A week ago, today, what I saw at a meeting held by the feds in Dearborn for area Muslims was emblematic of the big picture. And it was a frightening look into the future and, sadly, even the present.
Last Tuesday Night, I attended what was supposed to be a speech and question and answer session by Treasury Department officials informing Muslims and Arabs about how to avoid donating to terrorist-funding charities. But that’s not really what it was about.
It was a pander-fest by the feds and a ridicule-fest by a terror-supporting and money-laundering Muslims. In short, it was a joke. And America was the object of the laughter.
The forum, which was heavily advertised, including on the inside front page of The Detroit Free Press, was only attended by 45 people, a third of them federal agents and government employees, another third from the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), and another third were Muslim lawyers for Islamic charities raided by the FBI and their employees (plus the head of Michigan CAIR).
The event was hosted by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terrorist, ADC leader, and FBI award revokee Imad Hamad (in his usual stupid gangster hat get-up) and U.S. Attorney Stephen Murphy III (who couldn’t be bothered to show up).
Hamad spoke of “Our war against global terrorism.” Huh? His war is on BEHALF of global terrorism. The man is an open supporter of every Islamic terrorist group on the planet and is proud to say so. The joke after 9/11 is that barely a year after the attacks, he became a U.S. citizen, despite the fact that he was an illegal alien who overstayed a student visa, engaged in a sham marriage, and recruited and raised money for a Palestinian terrorist group (the PFLP). He is emblematic of our America, six years after 9/11.
Also in attendance: Mohammed Alomari, an official of LIFE For Relief and Development, which openly funded HAMAS and is believed to fund Al-Qaeda and its attacks on our troops in Iraq–the FBI, a year after raiding the charity has still not shut it down; Shereef Akeel, a CAIR board members and lawyer for LIFE, Al-Mabarrat (which funds Hezbollah), and other Islamic charities raided by the FBI; Nabih Ayad–the bizarre, pony-tailed lawyer for assorted Islamic terrorists and illegal aliens; Dawud Walid–who runs Michigan CAIR; Abed Hammoud–a local prosecutor who openly praised Hezbollah and attended what a Kuwaiti newspaper reported was a meeting of Hezbollah agents in Dearborn; and assorted other malefactors of this sewer variety.
You’d think if donating to terror-free charities was so important to Muslims and Arabs, there would have been greater attendance. But that isn’t important to them. And they know they will continue to get away with laundering to terrorists because we simply aren’t serious about stopping them and shutting down the charities that do so.
Those in the audience were clearly not interested in donating to terror-free charities. They are known, open supporters and defenders of Islamic terrorism, who were interested in donating to charities that help Al-Qaeda, HAMAS, and Hezbollah and the like, and they just wanted to find out how to get away with it. And they were interested in bullying the idiotic, kowtowing Treasury Department official, Michael Rosen, who was the speaker. They ridiculed him and harassed him in their “questions” and had zero respect for him, something his absurd pandering helped bring about.
Rosen–a lawyer and policy advisor with the U.S. Office of Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes (in the Treasury Dept.)–constantly mentioned how he was a Jew from New York and repeatedly peppered his speech with New Yorkisms, Jewish expressions and references to a non-existent country called “Palestine.” His every gushing utterance was as if to say, “Look at me. I’m a Jew who is pandering to you. Isn’t this wonderful?”
They weren’t impressed. And neither was I. In response to a written question by me, this Treasury Department official refused to denounce Hezbollah. More disgusting was Mr. Rosen’s constant mention of “Jewish groups, Catholic groups” as charities who give to terrorism. But, of course, he couldn’t name any such charities and finally admitted there were NO Jewish or Catholic charities who donate to terrorist groups. But, he wanted to make the Judeo-Christian charities, who truly help those in need, morally equivalent to Muslim charities that fund bombings and mass-murder. Rosen claimed,

Jewish charities have to be the best out there because with them, the risk is so much greater.

They do? The risk is greater? Really? When has a Jewish charity been at risk at all for funding the blowing up of 300 U.S. Marines and civilians while they slept or worked in an embassy in Beirut? When was there a risk that a Jewish charity would fund the burning to a crisp of four U.S. contractors in Fallujah (which a LIFE speaker bragged about LIFE funding future versions of)? When was any Jewish charity at risk of funding a homicide bombing of a cafe or pizzeria or bar or restaurant?
Rosen passed out handouts with stupid questions to ask charities and things to look for to make sure that they’re legit. But most of the charities shut down for supporting terrorists could meet all of these guidelines. And, clearly, none of the audience members were interested. Again, they want to give to Hezbollah, HAMAS, and Al-Qaeda. They made that very clear.
As the Muslims in the audience made fun of the Treasury Department speaker and his silly advice, I watched as Michigan FBI Special Agent in Charge Andrew Arena and Ohio/Michigan Immigraion and Customs Enforcement Special Agents in Charge Brian Moskowitz laughed along with the Muslims in ridiculing the speaker. The two top federal law enforcement supermodels in town must strike their PC poses.
And when their Muslim terror-supporting buddies weren’t bashing “Zionists” and “Zionist” and “Jewish charities,” or bitching, moaning, laughing at, and ridiculing the speaker who was their willing target, they were even more rude to him, by constantly walking to the back of the room to try to take my picture and harass me, as I did not go to this event in one of my usual disguises. This gave Moskowitz and Arena cause for smiles and laughter. For PC and job promotion reasons, they’re allied with them, not with you–the American people.
I had to cover my face with sheets of paper, but they didn’t give up, constantly surrounding me. That included PFLP terrorist Hamad, who was co-hosting this event, but rudely ignored the speaker and constantly harassed me. It’s not that I care if my picture is taken, but I don’t want to give in to these barbarians. They don’t scare or bother me. I bother them. And that’s the way it should be.
I knew that if they had it their way, the cameras and camera-phones would be guns, and the paper wouldn’t protect me. In a few generations, that will certainly be the case here in America. Because instead of doing something to put these barbarians in their proper place, our officials pander and hold these stupid forums. When I tried to leave, a fat, ugly woman in a hijab (redundant), who works for Hamad, tried to block my way at the door and take my picture. If she got anything, it was a pic of my “Lucky You” baseball cap.
I finally left, not because of the harassment–which I can take better than they can give–but because I was tired of hearing Muslims’ repeated, absurd, yawnworthy bitching and moaning about how they must fund Hezbollah and HAMAS or they can’t donate to charity, a claim made by CAIR leader Walid in his “question”. It certainly gives lie to the claim that most American Muslims don’t support terrorism, when their scant representatives in attendance claim they MUST support these groups and that they all do. Either you support terrorism or you don’t. You can’t do both simultaneously, unless you are a liar. And these people are liars, with the feds propping them up.
As I sat there, I thought to myself: Would the Justice Department and the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan (the heart of Mafia country) ever hold an event at New York’s Ravenite Social Club instructing John Gotti and the Gambino family how to continue to run numbers and protection rackets and drug sales and not get in trouble? Would they instruct the New York City FBI and ICE Special Agents in Charge to attend the event? Would they not be bothered to see these top law enforcement officials laughing at them along with the mobsters?
The answers to all of these questions is “NO.” But that’s because we actually saw ourselves at war with organized crime. And for the most part the FBI and the Justice Department have largely put the mob out of business. It is a crumbling empire.
As for Islam and Muslims who support terrorism, they are thriving. They actually get the Justice Department to hold this forum in the heart of Islamic America, so that they–the lawyers and employees of those who are openly funding HAMAS, Hezbollah, and Al-Qaeda–can harass them.
Why do you think the Muslims ridiculed the absurd, pandering Treasury Department official? Because they can. Because six years after 9/11, we’ve done nothing to harm them and bent over backward and forward and every other which way for them. Because they are winning, beating us here on our own soil. That the head of the FBI and ICE in the heart of Islamic America are laughing along with them against America’s limp attempts to stop them says it all.
Michael Rosen, amidst the ridicule of Michigan’s most extreme Muslims, spoke of return visits and training seminars:

We want to raise the bar–to make Muslim charities the best out there.

But Muslim charities and the officials representing them in his audience don’t want to raise the bar. They want to raise the contributions to Hezbollah, HAMAS, and Al-Qaeda. And they want to continue to get away with it.
Judging from their high level of gall and nerve, they clearly are.
They’ve gotten away with a lot and have Justice and Treasury Department officials and federal law enforcement leaders bowing down to them.
And the event, last week, is not an anomaly. These pander-fests to the co-religionists of the 19 hijackers are going on between extremist Muslims and federal officials nationwide. Expect many more of these in the future, with the balance of power forever expanding in their favor, not America’s.
The Barbarians Are Inside the Gate, and their victims are voluntarily surrendering.
Six years after 9/11, we are not only far less safe than we were on that day, we are asking the enemy how we can help them to their job here.
The 19 hijackers are laughing from hell. The transformation they are seeing in today’s America is far more of a victory than they could have predicted on 9/11. It is far more valuable to them than their 2,975 targets.
And maybe even more satisfying than their 72 virgins.

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23 Responses

You are right of course…some of us have seen it coming.

storagemanager on September 11, 2007 at 5:40 am

WORD.

FingerEleven on September 11, 2007 at 8:55 am

The Federal government is insane. It isn’t about protecting us. It is about favoring pet groups and punishing the rest of us who don’t agree and don’t want to go along.
We will never have the power to force it to protect us in its present state. Scenarios like agents of the federal government guffawing with these noncitizens who hate us and openly express this hatred is emblematic of the fact that We the People have lost control of the behemoth.

Sue Bob on September 11, 2007 at 9:29 am

What can we do? What can we do?
9/11 Reflections: USA enemies purchased the (mainstream) media long ago (I remember being shocked – oh how niave I was then- that “Al Rocker” (NY TV Weatherman) & “Peter Jennings” held a high school age student ‘town hall meeting’ on TV a day after 9/11/01 to laud Muslims and explain Muslim pain – we all have to admire them & understand their actions – poor things (e.g. murder). As a New Yorker – who was there on 9/11/01 & as an American – I was stunned!
Now they have purchased the government! That is the true sorrow associated with our energy consumption!
God Bless those who were lost on 9/11/01 & their families – and this country & its people & the same for Israel.

crazycatkids on September 11, 2007 at 10:36 am

What can we do? Ban this goddamned “relgion”. Islam isn’t a religion, it is a death cult married to a crime syndicate. The only way to save ourselves is quit pretending.
see: http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html
Thursday, February 08, 2007
A Proposed Constitutional Amendment
Background and justification to Amendment 28
Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;
Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice oneís religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a ìreligious testî for participation in the body politic;
Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;
Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;
Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even ìmoderateî Muslims states such as Turkey and Malaysia actively suppress other religions;
Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenet the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (holy war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;
Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;
Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;
Whereas there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;
Therefore: Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:
Article I
The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.
The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.
Article II
As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islamís history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.
Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.
Article IV
Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.

robscottw on September 11, 2007 at 10:56 am

‘Federal government is insane. It isn’t about protecting us. It is about favoring pet groups and punishing the rest of us who don’t agree and don’t want to go along. We will never have the power to force it to protect us in its present state. Scenarios like agents of the federal government guffawing with these noncitizens who hate us and openly express this hatred is emblematic of the fact that We the People have lost control of the behemoth’-Sue Bob
We need look no farther than this blog for proof. Look how DS ICE Deputy Special Agent in Charge Kyle Barnette (EVS) responds to government employees who dare disagree with him.

NDN on September 11, 2007 at 10:56 am

Come on, unerschrocken; it’s time to take off the gloves.

undaunted on September 11, 2007 at 11:04 am

Debbie, you deserve a medal. Like the passangers on flight 93 realized (too late), don’t look to government for protection. It will be up to private citizens to protect themselves.
So, at the same time the HLF trial runs in Dallas, Rosen, Moskowitz and Arena are telling the terrorists in our midst how to fund Hezb and Hamas.
All I can say is, wait till its President Clinton. My prediction is that the Islamists in our midst will start demanding MORE immigration from Muslim countries. And, you know what: they’ll get it!

sonomaca on September 11, 2007 at 11:14 am

Sometimes, it’s just too depressing knowing what is happening to our country… or what’s left of it.

cinerx on September 11, 2007 at 11:29 am

Debbie,
This exhibit right across the river from the WTC site is almost as disgusting as the meeting you attended.
http://www.lsc.org/visit/doandsee/exhibits/traveling-exhibitions

PJ on September 11, 2007 at 11:38 am

Your bravery astounds me. Your patriotism abounds. I still do not comprehend the love with Islam the government establishment has. Thank God for you and others who report the truth.

MadMom on September 11, 2007 at 11:47 am

“All I can say is, wait till its President Clinton. My prediction is that the Islamists in our midst will start demanding MORE immigration from Muslim countries. And, you know what: they’ll get it!”
Clinton, Bush is there really a difference? We are being destroyed from within. In addition to what MS Schlussel is writing about here the borders are still wide open and the invasion continues unabated. We all know what really must be done but will we? Do we have any leaders who will stand up and lead us? Somewhere along the line and sometime soon we must stand up and say enough or put our heads back down, eat the hay and say moo.

AlturaCt on September 11, 2007 at 11:48 am

Rosen, Moskowitz, and Arena should be charged and tried on sedition and treason. These three traitors should be made an example of Government malfeasance.
It is time we all say enough is enough and start charging traitors for the crimes they are committing with impunity.

ScottyDog on September 11, 2007 at 11:55 am

I’ve been away on business. I like what robscottw proposed. Debbie, your comments are so on target! But, with all the commentary on “what can we do?”, I reiterate that there is a groundswell of grass-roots anger developing around the country about all of this. Everyone just stop and look/listen very carefully. This quiet simmering is very close, I believe, to that which was occurring around 1771-1776 on the east coast of the present United States, but for a new reason. Our Federal government is not operating of the people, by the people, and for the people any more. It is operating as a seperate and disjointed faction, subserviant to a small group of seditionist, treasonous entities. Many of those high-profile democrat demogogues, their elitist/socialist sycophants, and the local moonbat rank and file are becoming more and more obvious to the silent majority in their irrational behavior. Rest assured – we WILL win this war because of who we are. What we also need to do is hold those within our borders responsible for their anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-liberty (Treason) activities. I’ll conclude with a comment from Abe Lincoln about our congress: “Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.” Senator Schumer, are you paying attention?

FreeAmerican on September 11, 2007 at 12:32 pm

Don’t mind me if I digress from this issue a bit. What I would like to know is effigy burning legal in the U.S.? If so, I would make one of OBL,take it to down town and torch it in public. I would then like to have this filmed while the burning is happening, then send this video tape to OBL and his cohorts which ever cave they may be hiding. The message of the video tape would be conveyed as a warning for the next major attack they plot to carry out in our soil, we will burn the actual responsible perpentrator complicit in these terror attacks by proxy or default, not an effigy.
The left wing p.c.nicks had already waved the white flag to the jihadists. They may as well submit to islam which means they may have to give up their depraved lifestyle on free drugs,homosexuality,rampant sex,porn,trash music etc. the very hobbies they enjoy the most or live on, the decadency the radical islamists are using as a pretext to strike us. Make no bones about it. This all bears no relevance to our foreign policy as the liberals claim (or whine about. Try telling that to the 9/11 victims and see what response you will get).
This heartrending day has always been resonating with me ever since this catastrophe transpired 6 years ago. May we commemorate this anniversary by remember those who perished in the attacks and the heroes that risked their lives to rescue others lest we forget the arab murderers who orchesrated these atrocities on our soil and still continue to plot more attacks every waking moment of their lives.
To the numerous innocent fellow Americans who were brutally slain on that fateful day; May G-D avenge their spilled blood. To the firemen and the ambulance crew who lost their lives in the midst of the blazing fire and plummeting rubble while trying to rescue the victims trapped in those building; May their memories be for a blessing.
May G-D continue to shine His divine ray of blessings upon our nation. May He shield us from the forces of evil who want to bring calamity to us.

Jew Chick on September 11, 2007 at 12:33 pm

Debbie, little keebler elf also known as my Congressman, Dennis Kucinich, finally took time off of his phrryic run for the presidency and actually showed up on the house floor for a vote. The vote was the only vote cast against a resolution of rememberance for Sept. 11th. This is just after he appeared on Syrian state TV bashing America. Hopefully, even the notoriously stupid voters of my district (which unfortunately includes the west end of Cleveland proper) will elect a real American to represent Cleveland, not that bowl cut dwarf who everyone in the world laughs at. However, Dennis has enough union stooges, elderly women with babuschkas who need to just die off, militant homosexuals residing in Lakewood (one of the gayest cities in America that lies just to the west of Cleveland), and Cleveland’s large Muslim population (the Cleveland caliphate is on the west side of the city and extends into Lakewood).
Either way, Debbie, you might want to commemorate this pathetic anti-American traitor with one of your well informed blogs. More people need to know what this moron’s real agenda is.
BTW – Kudos on your appearance with the Jihadists and their dhimini pet statesmen. That shows real courage given the fact you are probably Zionist infidel public enemy number one amongst Motown’s Jihadists and Pan-Islamists.

JasonBourne81 on September 11, 2007 at 1:37 pm

This “government” is totally insane – it needs a giant enema!

redtop on September 11, 2007 at 3:20 pm

Debbie…Words can’t express the admiration I have for you and the courage you display by entering these islamic vipers nests on our own soil to report on the subversive activities of these vipers and our dim witted government officials.
Clearly our government officials are engaged in the wholesale “sellout” of our territorial integrity and national sovereignty…i.e., the birthright of our children and grandchildren.
From the traitors that infest both political parties and our government agencies we can expect the worst.
For anyone who is not brain dead I would strongly urge, arm yourself and your loved ones, family members, etc and become active members/supporters of the Minuteman movement.
True statesmen/patriots among our political leaders are in a minority. The country desparately needs strong leadership…a national ticket headed up by Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter looks good to me.
Debbie, you are a courageous lady. With Gods Grace more Debbie Schlussel’s will soon emerge.
May God grant you many years.

joesixpack31 on September 11, 2007 at 4:08 pm

Everybody needs to start talking openly to their friends about becoming radical. Everybody needs to talk to their friends about violence, until there are too many people talking for the government to do anything. How much madness do Americans have to witness before they lose their distaste for ‘hate’?
Real Americans need to become a little tougher, and support people who may have dirty hands. Are the Russians allergic to Putin and others defending Russia for Russians? No, they don’t cry about it and don’t report their fellow Russians for defending their territory. It’s the lesser of two ‘evils’.

steve ventry on September 11, 2007 at 7:04 pm

Debbie, it occurred to me that W and his right- of-center wing allies shouldn’t tolerate this. Why are the flunkies so inclined to bend over for the Muslims? Are the inmates runing the asylum? It just seems like a policy disconnect.

Anonymous1 on September 12, 2007 at 12:26 am

Way to go Debbie. I appreciate your courage. Keep it up.
I have a question regarding Islamic “charities”. Do they aver give to non Muslims? The Red Cross, and most charities give to all kinds of people in need. It seems that Muslim charities give only to Muslims, and only to Muslims fighting the jihad.

GFB on September 12, 2007 at 9:16 am

DS—NO FEAR!! Thanks for being there at that sorry “pander-fest” on behalf of all of us who give a damn about what is going on. How pathetic that you were not supported by a faithful contingent against such a group of terror supporting characters.
Just an idea–though I have read your posts about many of these islamists and their coopting government and media enablers on your site–it is such a tangled web–that I have difficulty keeping it straight. When I try to explain it to others–their eyes glaze over. So,could you have a feature page or 2 with photos and perhaps a “chart” showing who’s who among these dudes. There could be a page with “who’s who among enablers/panderers” too. Under each name you could link to the stories and documentation that sets forth the background and context of what you write on a great piece like this.
Thanks for being there Debbie and for not backing down. I watched the footage of the 911 attacks last night as a reminder and reading your post here I am as appalled as you are. It’s like the smoke from those towers has clouded our country’s minds from “getting real.” We have to deal with it. The laundy list of terror never ends. Westerners in general are way too tolerant.
I read this morning about bomb strikes from Gaza hitting Israel soldiers as they slept in tents yesterday– the response–concern that it might rock the “peace process.” We have got to be insane!

BB on September 12, 2007 at 11:24 am

I agree with you 1789’er. Figures don’t lie. Liars like the EverVigilantShihtzu lie. EVS is the DS blog Agent in Charge of Hypocrisy. By the way, I can personally assure you that many legacy Customs OI managers are equal opportunity haters. As one agent in our office often remarks about a high level ICE manager, “He hates everybody.”

FingerEleven on September 26, 2007 at 8:26 am

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