February 14, 2010, - 5:47 pm

BabyDaddies: Questions About Tonight’s NBA All-Star Game

By Debbie Schlussel

Tonight, the 2010 NBA All-Star Game takes place.  And yet again, I couldn’t really care less about it.  That said, I have a few questions to which I don’t know the answers, but think it’s  worth discussing:

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How many kids from different mothers do you think the average player in tonight’s game has?  Hey, if they’re telling us they’re role models (and if they have endorsement deals–which they all do–that is what they’re telling us, if in not so many words), I’d like to know how many of ‘em are babydaddies and by how many different babymamas.  I’d guess, on average, it’s about four kids with three different babymamas per player.  I don’t know for sure, and haven’t done the tally, but I’ll bet I’m close. I only looked at two of the players–Jason Kidd (who has two kids by a wife and one by a girlfriend) and LeBron James (who has two kids by a girlfriend).

How many do you think owe child support on their various illegitimate offspring?  And what is the total balloon figure owed in child support by all of the players in tonight’s game?  Again, I don’t know the answer, but I’ll be it’s in the tens of thousands and that at least five owe support.

Yup, I couldn’t care less about who scores the most points, tonight.  And I won’t be watching.  But what I do care about–what we should all care about–is how many messed up kids with no fathers in their lives the guys playing tonight created or will create in the future.  It’s no small blight on America.

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The biggest blame goes to the politicians. In the 1950’s 80% of African American lived with both parents and the racist gov’t wanted to encourage women not to raise children with a father and gave them welfare that if they had a father that worked they wouldn’t get. Affirmative Action also help female African American’s more then male Africen American’s. Harlem has a PUBLIC SCHOOL for girls only (they don’t offer African American men the same option) and 67% of those who go to college are female from this area. This far the War Against Boyd (the discrimination in Harlem) by Christian Hoff-Somers and Save the Males (the lack of fathers among African Americans)by Kathleen Parker.

So some of these men themselves grew up without a father and they themselves never learned what a family is.

adam on February 14, 2010 at 6:00 pm

I was watching e true hollywood story on nba wives but they didn’t show the dirtbags. It showed married guys. Dwayne wade the guy who everyone thinks is a class act had a kid or two got famous got mega deals and boom he dissapears. His wife said he never sees his kids. I wouldn’t expect e to tell the truth on these dirtbags all the players they profiled were married and had a couple kids. I know theres guys with fifteen kids, I live in seattle and when shawn kemp was here he had seven different baby mamas I think he had fifteen or twenty kids. The sports media does a great job of keeping it secret. I wouldn’t be surprised if dwayne wade has other kids that e just happened to leave out.

tyler on February 14, 2010 at 6:25 pm

Adam –

I do not intend to go into ‘vdare’ country but there’s one sad and glaringly obvious fact that everyone ignores. A hundred years of Jim Crow and segregation led the American black community to build an elaborate economic and cultural ‘parallel’ society with great ingenuity and pride. For one minor example, every major city in America in the 1950’s had its own black debutante ball, there was an elaborate world of black Masonic lodges, powerful church organizations, black colleges and PRIDE and FAMILY all over the place. Gone in five years. All of it. Dust. And in its place ‘Black Power’ criminals strutting and preening for the cameras. Built on faith, adversity, Christian humility and true pride. Gone.

poetcomic1 on February 14, 2010 at 6:43 pm

So Debbie, let me get this right. You have not only used a negative black stereo type to make assumptions about the volume and legitimacy of the NBA players children, but you have gone a step further and used a racially charged, and made up, word like “babiesdaddies” to further drive home the point that this post is pure conjecture tainted by racist overtones. Who takes you seriously? And why should they? Someone should have taught you to think before you speak, or in this case type.

C: I made no comment about the race of the players, but thou doth protest too much. In fact, the highest rates of single motherhood in America–in some major cities it’s 80%–is in Black America. But don’t worry, White America is fast catching up in this “hip” trend. It’s not about race. It’s about a culture. The word, “babydaddy,” is one I’ve used with regard to Levi Johnston, Sarah Palin’s daughter’s babydaddy. What color is he? DS

Colin on February 14, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    It hardly matters who you personally used the word Babbydaddy to refer to in the past, when you and I both know that terminology has been drawn from the dissemination of black culture in the US. For instance I could say “You should stop trippin” and though I may use this phrase all the time, if I publish it for public consumption, ie: people who don’t know me read it, it adds the overtone of race by being a phrase associated with a certain racial and socioeconomic group: young black people. As for the first part of your comment saying that you made no statement about the race of the players, this is true. However it seems that you are simply dodging the point of my first reply to your post, which was: that you were making a statement about their race without having to specifically identify it. Basically you found a way to make racial statements without every having to name the race, which is just as bad but more cowardly. You sited only two examples in your original article one of whom is black, and the other being half black. And you offer no other motive as to why you would assume NBA players are paternally irresponsible, so again think before you speak.

    Colin on February 14, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    “….this post is pure conjecture tainted by racist overtones..”

    Unfortunately, high rates of out of wedlock births and single mother parenthood in the black community are not really matters for conjecture. It is a horrible situation that has been accelerating since the 60’s. The amazing thing is that even 50 years ago, the black community did not have anything approaching this:
    http://www.elliscountypress.com/news/126/ARTICLE/3302/2009-03-05.html

    Also, Debbie is quite right in pointing out that whites are catching up fast. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr48/nvs48_16.pdf

    Worry01 on February 14, 2010 at 8:51 pm

      Walter E. Williams, is a syndicated columnist and author known for his libertarian views… yea I’m sure he presents things from a fair and unbiased viewpoint. Because he’s making his living off of having people with your viewpoints read his material, is he? This is actually an argument im not willing to get into with you, however just know that you should really re-examine where you get your news from, and what your CDC data points to.

      Colin on February 14, 2010 at 9:14 pm

Ahhh, before I even had a chance to chime in, the race card is thrown down again!
Actually, I never even heard the phrase,”baby daddy, momma.” my whole life until I worked with blacks. It wasn’t that my white friends parents were all married, they weren’t. A few were from divorced parents, but they never coined the ebonics like that. It wasn’t a source of pride, for sure.

I loved how Lennox Lewis slammed Evander Holyfield before their title fight. He stated that it was funny to him how Holyfield had everyone fooled with all his G-d talk when he had about 12 illigitimate kids out there by different women. If a WHITE fighter would’ve called him out like that it would not have been covered as laid back and everyone knows that. All you apologists that worship these sports scum bags need to read a good book called PROS AND CONS IN THE NFL. The race merchants actually threatened the authors of the book with legal action but they still released the book.

I’d guesstimate the average amount of bastard children out there fathered by the average NBA player to be at least 4. Maybe 6. Factor only single players into it and the number may double!!!lol

Joe on February 14, 2010 at 7:40 pm

Don’t get started on the percentage of abortions by black females compared to everyone else.

Joe on February 14, 2010 at 7:41 pm

who fucking cares

kc on February 14, 2010 at 7:48 pm

Debbie- You are right on point. It is axiomatic that those communities with the highest out of wedlock birthrates also have the highest rates of illiteracy, crime and social dysfunction. One need only look to my hometown of Detroit to validate the point. Around 80%of the children are borne out of wedlock in this city. Dads are predictably absent, these children grow up largely in poverty, high school graduation rates, by the best estimates, are about 50% and illiteracy is rampant. These ills are a direct result of this societal phenomenon.

Dennis Vatsis on February 14, 2010 at 8:28 pm

kc…..couldn’t agree with you more. I would like to see affirmative action used in the NBA to require 2-White boys on the court (from each team) at all times during the game.

#1 Vato on February 14, 2010 at 8:29 pm

Wouldn’t it be easy enough to actually find out how many NBA players have kids out of wedlock? Or have 15 to 20 kids? Would fact checking really take that much time?
Pete

P: I might do that at some point, but it would actually take a lot of time (you’re talking about well over 100 players), which I don’t have this instant. Sorry. DS

Pete Bone on February 14, 2010 at 8:44 pm

Debbie, will you discuss the Geert Wilders show trial? It is getting little play elsewhere. Surely it demands far more attention than it is getting.

skzion on February 14, 2010 at 9:17 pm

Oh, why not play along?

I’d guess each NBA player averages 5 kids with 4 tramps.

Here’s a fun article I googled, http://www.faniq.com/blog/Is-Darren-McFadden-Producing-Illegitimate-Kids-At-A-Record-Rate-Blog-6943

If it makes the people who use the silly racists card, Larry Bird was a babydaddy.

Jeff W. on February 14, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Black or White, all should join hands to make America a great nation that its enemies will not dare. We should discourage the increasing rate of single parents in America and encourage families to stay together irrespective of the challenges.

Broking homes are producing a lot of irresponsible young men and women which does not portend good for us as a nation / people. Irrespective of our color, raci or individual differences we should join hands together to keep American flag flying above the flags of other nations as God has brought us together to make America a leading nation on this planet earth.

Apart from United Sates of America, we do not have any other nation we can call ours therefore we should stop acts that divides us and promote acts that unit us

Stanley Bright on February 14, 2010 at 9:44 pm

All over the World, celebrities are irresponsible; giving birth out of wedlock, hardly stay in marriage and we the people from the other side of life should call them to order as they are not helping our society

Brown

Brown on February 14, 2010 at 9:57 pm

Any NBA player that impregnates any girl should be ban is either they get married and stay with their wives or hold themselves instead of increasing the rate of children without fathers in our society which is a bad omen.

Concern citizen

Concern citizen on February 14, 2010 at 10:09 pm

ATHLETES WITH ILLEGITIMATE KIDS

THE HEAVYWEIGHTS
Calvin Murphy – 14 illegitimate kids by 9 women. You sir are our current champion.
Travis Henry – 9 kids by 9 women. All of this by 28. Impressive. He is on pace to catch Calvin. The fact that he’s broke from paying child support may slow him down though.
Ex-San Antonio Spur Willie Anderson – 9 illegitimate kids. If only his field goal percentage had been as high as his impregnation rate.
Evander Holyfield – 9 illegitimate kids. Has more kids than brain cells left.
NEW MEMBER Jason Caffey – 8 kids by 7 women.
Shawn Kemp – 7 illegitimate kids by 6 women. Gives his nickname of the Reign Man new meaning.
Derrick Thomas – 7 illegitimate kids by 5 women. He died at 33. Let’s just leave it at that.

http://100percentinjuryrate.blogspot.com/2007/08/update-on-illegitimate-kids-of-athletes.html

docgary on February 14, 2010 at 10:50 pm

THE MIDDLEWEIGHTS
NEW MEMBER Ray Lewis – 6 kids by 4 women.
NEW MEMBER Marshall Faulk – 6 kids by 3 women. Which is probably why he considered coming out of retirement.
Larry Johnson (basketball) – 5 kids by 4 women. 3 are illegitimate.
Charles Rogers – Uber-NFL Draft bust reportedly has 5 illegitimate kids…and no paycheck. Definitely the makings of a solid family.
Vlad Guerrero – 4 kids by 4 women.
Santonio Holmes – 3 illegitimate kids by two women, before leaving college.
Former Celtic Greg Minor – 3 illegitimate kids.
Ricky Williams – 3 illegitimate kids. Maybe that’s why he smokes so much weed.
Priest Holmes – 3 illegitimate kids. You best keep running Priest.
Chad Johnson – Has 3 illegitimate kids.
Shannon “Horseface” Sharpe – 3 as well.
Mike Bibby – apparently had two before leaving ‘Zona.

docgary on February 14, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    OMGosh Doc…I was wondering why the MIDDLEWEIGHT list Wasn’t HEAVYWEIGHT…then I saw your heavyweight list! Oy vey es mere!

    Skunky on February 15, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Chad “OchoCinco” Johnson has 5 kids by 4 different women…Far from a light weight

    OhNoSheDidnt on February 19, 2010 at 11:08 pm

Some points to consider:

The NBA and NFL are over 75% black….

So, obviously, blacks dominant this sorrowful list.

However, if you take a sampling of any population of men based on race, YOU WOULD FIND A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF BLACK MEN WITH ILLEGITIMATE KIDS.

Now, draw your own conclusions.

Sorry, Colin, but these are the FACTS – deal with it!

docgary on February 14, 2010 at 10:58 pm

There are two sets of victims: the kids of course, and then us, the taxpayers. But I have no fear; this problem will be addressed by Calypso Louie, the Black Caucus, and all the other black individuals who speak in the abstract about black responsibility. Here is a chance for them to put their money )pun intended_ where their mouth (big, big big) is. Of course they won’t which shows that all the talk by black ‘leaders’ about men’s responsibility is just a sop to make taxpayers think they are concerned and doing something about it, so taxpayers won’t get overly impatient and start rebelling, but this is something that we as taxpayers should get mad about, and of course, a disproportionate number are black.

Jews get singled out all the time for make-believe deficiencies, but blacks, women, latins, and of course Muslims, don’t get singled out for real ones. Maybe the Muslims could support these kids from the illicit food stamp profits they’re getting.

And as skzion says, the Wilders show trial is worth discussing. In case anyone doubted it, 1984 is indeed here. We really have to stop using the term ‘free world’ to describe Western semi-civilization. It’s only free for the PC minorities.

Little Al on February 14, 2010 at 11:40 pm

Can’t we just sing???

Shy Guy on February 15, 2010 at 12:01 am

I saw a promo clip on CNN for the Fareed Zakaria program. He was interviewing an individual who had 4 wives; and they were all laughing and joking about whether or not the individual treated all his wives equally. The individual assured Zakaria that he did treat them all equally (then laughed uproariously — as in, he was lying). I suspect that the next step in the Islamification of Canada is going to be the legitimizing of polygamy. A Canadian Federal Supreme Court ruling, I believe is in the works. (If/when polygamy becomes legal, I will leave Canada.)

J.S. on February 15, 2010 at 12:24 am

Basketball is a stupid sport. Scoring is supposed to be hard to do, not easy enough to do it 50 times a game.

And let’s not forget about all the trampy women there are out there. ‘Cuz there’s much more than a handful.

Matt on February 15, 2010 at 1:18 am

According to Obama – being a father only takes a few minutes. I think I now understand which minutes those are. No foreplay required or after play. Of course Obama was not referring to the African American community.
And also lets not blame woman – I guess men have to take all the precautions – even women that have 3 kids by 19 years old still not at fault if it happens again – just give them more welfare – that reward would never encourage more kids they can’t support. It is time for parents that can’t afford kids to have the state raise them for them- at some point maybe require a birth control implant when they pick up their welfare payments. White and Black and Hispanic and … whatever – who cares broke people spitting out 1000s of kids is irresponsible and taxpayers are tired of the bills.

Lancaster on February 15, 2010 at 1:38 am

How times change…In the early 1950’s Ingrid Bergman (no, not an NBA or NFL star but the Swedish born actress of “Casablanca” fame) was virtually black-listed, for a time, for having a child out of wedlock.

Bob on February 15, 2010 at 4:52 am

Everybody wants to be like Captain Kirk and spread their seed throughout the galaxy.

The Terrorist's Advocate on February 15, 2010 at 9:28 am

Thanks for posting this DS. A topic EVERYONE who cares about America, American Culture and Americans SHOULD care about.

It’s destroying America, broken families and most importantly KIDS.

Having kids out of wedlock is NOT COOL. It’s chaotic, sad, selfish and tacky!

Skunky on February 15, 2010 at 11:55 am

Have you heard the latest on Tiger Woods? Seems hamging out with NBA stars, current or former, rubs off. There is an old Italian saying that, translated, says “Walk with the crippled and you’ll learn how to limp”

Bob on February 15, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Very disgusting. But criticizing men who don’t take care of their children now is not PC. What a shame this nation has become. This experiment known as America is in its final stages.

CaliforniaScreaming on February 16, 2010 at 12:09 am

There’s more to being a father than sending a child support check once a month. I feel sorry for the kids, they won’t develop properly.

Truth on February 16, 2010 at 12:23 pm

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