October 10, 2007, - 11:16 am

Off-Duty UK Priests Urged to Remove Collars: Coming To America Soon? It’s Already Here

By Debbie Schlussel
One of the symptoms of growing Islamic presence and, therefore, extremism and violence, in Great Britain is the increasing attacks on those who openly display their religious affiliations. We saw it in France, where a Jewish woman was forced by Muslims to swallow her Jewish Star necklace and others wearing yarmulkes are violently attacked. Now we’re seeing it in Great Britain in attacks on Christians.
Reader Aunty Dhimmi sends this from The Church Report:

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This Versus This

Clergy in Britain are being advised to take off their clerical collars when off duty to lower the risk of attack. National Churchwatch said clergymen are attacked more often than other professionals, the group’s Nick Tolson said.
Five clergymen were murdered In the past 10 years and a 2001 academic study found that 12 percent of clergy suffered some form of violence. In a survey of 90 London clergy Tolson carried out last year, nearly half said they were attacked in the previous year. One vicar from Willesden, northwest London, said his vicarage was machine-gunned, BBC News online reported Monday.
“The argument against it is it’s their witness in the community – their way of saying, ‘hello, I’m the vicar’. That’s fine when you’re being the vicar. … When they are on their own, and when they are off duty … there is no need for them to wear their dog collars. All that does is to attract people who see the dog collars, and if they are motivated towards violence, it puts them [clergy] in a very difficult situation.”

Um, they’re not dogs. They don’t wear “dog” collars. These are proud displays of religion. And now, they’ve become marks like the Yellow Stars.
While we constantly hear the Islamist myth that Islamic women with headscarves are the ones who are treated poorly, the real story is that if you openly display you are a Christian or a Jew in a Muslim area of the west (like Birmingham, England or Dearbornistan, USA), then you really experience the full arena of discrimination and violence.
For those who believe this is just a European phenomenon, dream on. In summer 2002, Muslims from the wealthy Issa family of Ann Arbor attacked Jewish University of Michigan student Danny Aghion (whose family escaped Egypt to get away from similar treatment there) because he was wearing a yarmulke. He was on foot, while they chased him in their car and threw glass bottles at him. In 2003, Muslims suckerpunched University of Michigan student Ricky Dorfman because he was wearing a pro-Israel T-shirt at a bowling alley. In the same year, a student at an Ann Arbor bar was beaten by Muslims because he was wearing a ring bearing the Star of David. He had broken ribs and had to get facial reconstructive surgery.
Because of these and other things, I routinely hide my Hebrew jewelry or remove it when I go out in public. You never know what will happen to you when the Muslim illegal alien clerk (whom Brian “Abu Moskowitz” won’t arrest) will do to you when you are next in line at the gas station (and I try to patronize Christian Arab-owned gas stations).
So, to those who think about what’s happening in Britain: Coming to America?, I say, Nope. It’s ALREADY here.
Wake up.

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Debbie, great piece as uaual! How soon til these muslims get the majority in Parliament & start permanent changes in England, sharia law etc? It seems to be happening in Belgium, Denmark etc. Does this mean Europe won’t be Europe, but some islamo-fascist societies? They’ll lose their languages and culture to these creatures. What the hell’s gion’ on out there?

countywolf on October 10, 2007 at 11:46 am

I never heard about any of these Michigan attacks. Where are the Jewish “civil rights” groups? Where was the press?
How do all these Muslim illegals get into the country? Are they border jumpers or do they come on visas?

sonomaca on October 10, 2007 at 11:54 am

Debbie, hi thank you for your great blog! I always try to educate people that there is a BIG difference between Muslim Arabs and Christian Arabs. It also takes the wind out of their sails when they try to accuse me of being “racist”. Anyway, can you tell me how I can tell if a gas station is muslim or Christian? When the usual cultural accoutrements are not adorning the premises? I don’t want to ask them outright.
Your fan in Ann Arbor.
[NICHTDHIMMI: GREAT QUESTION. I MOSTLY TRY TO GAS UP IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE I’VE LEARNED WHO OWNS WHICH GAS STATIONS. I TRY TO FIND OUT WHO OWNS THE STATION.
I ALWAYS ASK FOR THE NAME. SOMETIMES THAT’S A DEAD GIVEAWAY NOT TO BUY GAS (OR ANYTHING ELSE) FROM THERE. SOMETIMES, I’LL ASK WHAT COUNTRY THEY ARE FROM. IF THEY ARE FROM SYRIA, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY’RE NOT LIKELY TO BE A CHRISTIAN, AS VERY FEW SYRIAN CHRISTIANS OWNED GAS STATIONS. EGYPT, TUNISIA, YEMEM–OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE DEAD GIVEAWAYS (NEVER MET A CHRISTIAN FROM EGYPT THAT OWNED A GAS STATION). IF I SEE A CROSS OR A CRUCIFIX, I KNOW IT’S A CHRISTIAN-ARAB-OWNED GAS STATION, AND I WILL PATRONIZE THE PLACE BECAUSE I KNOW, ALMOST FOR CERTAIN, THEY WILL NOT BE FINANCING THE JIHAD WITH MY GAS MONEY.
I ALSO TRY TO GO TO GAS STATIONS OWNED BY NATIONAL STORES, LIKE MEIJER, SAM’S CLUB, 7-ELEVEN, ETC. THOSE ARE NOT MUSLIM-OWNED, SO I KNOW MY CASH IS NOT GOING TO FUND THE JIHAD. THERE ARE MORE CUES, CLUES, AND HINTS. BUT THAT’S THE CLIFF’S NOTES VERSION. HOPE IT HELPS. DS]

nichtdhimmi on October 10, 2007 at 12:08 pm

Debbie, can you do an article on these attacks that you’ve speak of? Americans needs to be told this story.

newinnewark on October 10, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Do not ask for the whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. Pretty soon, no more church bells. Just the screams of Imams calling the faithful to prayer. Five freakin’ times a day!

Bill Petty on October 10, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Debbie,
I wear a gold chain with a Star of David and a C’hai on it. I will never be intimidated to take them off. I am not a small person, but i’m not of a large, menacing stature either. I am well-trained in self-defense (Krav Maga). There have been very few times where I have heard a disparaging word uttered in my presence, to my face by any anti-semite or Israel-hater. The encounter ends rather quickly where I am ready to defend myself and fight any scum-bag that has a problem with me being a Jew, or a problem Jews or Israel. If it comes to a fight, I will fight, and I have never lost to any of these scum-bags. I will be quick to defend any other Jew that is being intimidated by the scum-of-the-earth, too.

Yiddish Steel on October 10, 2007 at 12:17 pm

Like the members of the military, vicars are on the job 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Only some nonreligious ignoramous wouldn’t understand that.

GEB4000 on October 10, 2007 at 12:26 pm

I have never and will never understand the hatred towards the Jews. I agree with Yiddish Steel on never taking off/hiding the symbols of your faith. Until we starting fighting back this kind of nonsense will continue.

newinnewark on October 10, 2007 at 12:32 pm

I have two words: Pepper Spray.
I never go anywhere without it. Nonlethal, does the trick (only up close of course), available over the internet.

Seymour Paine on October 10, 2007 at 12:39 pm

I have many relatives over in the UK. Some of my family is in Birmingham. Debbie is absolutely correct – Muslims are practically taking over many areas of the Midlands and North of England. The worst area would probably be Leeds – it might as well be West Peshawar. All of England has been faced with a massive influx of Muslims from the former colonies, but mostly tribal areas of Pakistan. These people are moving to the UK to conquer, not to assimilate or better themselves, as most of them are unemployed and live on the dole. Furthermore, they prodigously outbreed native Brits.
One of the more disturbing stories I have heard was from a cousin who teaches Kindergarten in London. She tells me of kids who grow up in Muslim dominated housing projects, with 2 unemployed parents on the dole. These children were born in the UK, yet speak only Arabic when they come to Kindergarten. Furthermore, Pork is banned in British schools during Ramadan, as are displays of pigs in British govt offices.
Britain is becoming part of the global caliphate. I hope people wake up and put a stop to this nonsense.

JasonBourne81 on October 10, 2007 at 1:44 pm

I’ll continue wearing my crucifix proudly. Let them try…buzzards gotta eat, same as worms!

1shot1kill on October 10, 2007 at 2:37 pm

Let’s see, Muslims demand to wear veils, refuse to work cash registers when selling pork, cabbies won’t pick up travelers with dogs, state taxpayers have to buy them footbaths at college, soon priests can’t wear Roman collars. When did we surrender? Perhaps we are too civilized or too afraid of violence to protect our way of life. This just makes no sense.
Time to end Muslim immigration.

Traverse on October 10, 2007 at 2:56 pm

Living in Cleveland, where there are many Arab Americans, I have many Arab Christian friends. The way you can tell them is that they normally wear crosses. They do this precisely so they are not misidentified as Muslims and because most are patriotic Americans. The diner where I eat my lunch everyday is owned by Christian Arabs, who wear crosses, fly American flags, and were really happy when their home country of Lebanon was getting bombed due to Hezbollah attacks on Israel. Why – many had been persecuted and driven from there by Hezbollah – most Lebanese Christians live here in the USA.
Another thing to look for are names. Many Arab Christians will have names of saints, particularly saints from that part of the world: names to look for include George, Elias, Anthony, Alexander, etc. This I have noticed particularly with Lebanese Christians – they can often have the same first and last name (i.e. Michael Michael or Anthony Anthony). Their last names will also not be Mohammed, Abdullah, or other Muslim names. If the first names are not saints names, they will be westernized names – not Arabic gobbeldygook.

JasonBourne81 on October 10, 2007 at 3:44 pm

Weak people will always live in fear
Terrorism Works Well
Free people living in fear aren’t free – the western world is no longer free since they fear intimidation
Weak leaders make weak people

Test Test on October 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Haganah Online Targest Terrorists:
Blogs target jihadis online
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071010/NATION/110100083/1001
Citizen Journalists, Citizen Soldiers.
When you hear people say there is nothing they can do – they are wrong.
BLOGS TARGET JIHADIS ONLINE. Blogger Rusty Shackelford appears: “Asked why he does it, ‘Mr. Shackleford’ said, ‘Because my wife won’t let me go shoot them.'”

Test Test on October 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

I wear a Star of David.
Also my Army dog tags.
And I carry a .45 caliber revolver, concealed permit.
I will use it.

lance de boyle on October 10, 2007 at 7:28 pm

This is just another example of the turd world filling the vacuum in the West; leadership vacuum.
The Sun is surely setting upon Brittain.
It’s about 2:30 p.m. in the U.S.
Soon, we’ll all be fuct, unless there is a Manhattan Project regarding western, white reproduction. No leaders? No peace.

Nuggler on October 10, 2007 at 9:14 pm

After reading lance de boyle’s comments I have to ask this question. When the constitution says that I can keep and ‘bear’ arms why do I need a permit to do so??
What ever happened to the moozlums that carried out these attacks against our Jewish citizens??
Did the cops turn tail and run? Did all of the powers of political correctness kick into high gear to rescue the moozlum ‘victims’?
With everything that happened to the Jewish people in WWII why are they not more vocal about these attacks when they occur in the 21st century?

newinnewark on October 10, 2007 at 10:09 pm

To Debbie’s point on Britain – here is a great article by Melanie Phillips on the dire situation in England caused by Muslims, and their government’s failure to do anything except appease the Muslim in every way. They do not defend their western culture against Muslims and they have retreated.
This is very important to consider given our upcoming election. Since the Democrats have been taken over by leftists and no longer act in the interest of the US, and since they will not decry Islamic Nazism, there is no reason to think that if HRC is elected we will not face the same fate. Hillary’s socialist dream and the Islamists have the same goal – an end to America as we know it.
http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=533

CarpeDiem on October 10, 2007 at 10:42 pm

In the Bronx, NY, and in many other areas within a seventy mile radius, most gas stations are either owned or operated by Muslims. It’s a near-monopoly. Corporate gas stations, while not Muslim-owned, frequently employ Muslim attendants or managers. These employees are free to use part or all of their salaries to fund charities and other organizations connected with the global jihad. Finding gas stations which do not employ Muslims is increasingly difficult in this part of the country. I fill up at one of several local stations which are owned or managed by Sikhs, avoiding the Muslim stations wherever possible. But sometimes (as in the Northeast Bronx) there are no alternatives. Some years ago, many gas stations were owned or managed by Hindus; most of these, however, have been taken over by Muslims from India, Pakistan, Bengladesh, etc., reflecting, ironically, what is occurring in that part of the world, a process that began twelve hundred years ago when the Muslim hordes invaded the Indian subcontinent.

commonsense on October 10, 2007 at 11:07 pm

The longer our values, good nature, hospitality, insitutions, tolerance, and patience are assaulted by their insults, demands, threats, and violence, the more tightly wound is the spring of our range.
One day, they will commit the last straw, and our collective rage will be released.
Then they will feel the other side of the American character.

lance de boyle on October 10, 2007 at 11:51 pm

Sorry to use the following language, but it has come to that:
Goddamn the liberals here and in Europe for being too dumb and for thinking so little of their own countries.
They are allowing these idiot devil cultists to multiply like weeds in the west by their PC policies and “advocasy” groups.
A civil war W-I-L-L [one day] be the only way this problem is solved (I hope it doesn’t come to that), but apparantly government immigration policies are not solving the problem.

God&America on October 11, 2007 at 12:25 am

Sorry to use the following language, but it has come to that:
Goddamn the liberals here and in Europe for being too dumb and for thinking so little of their own countries.
They are allowing these idiot devil cultists to multiply like weeds in the west by their PC policies and “advocasy” groups.
A civil war W-I-L-L [one day] be the only way this problem is solved (I hope it doesn’t come to that), but apparantly government immigration policies are not solving the problem.

God&America on October 11, 2007 at 12:25 am

Sorry, I meant: “Advocacy” groups, and . . . apparently.

God&America on October 11, 2007 at 12:29 am

Sorry, I meant: “Advocacy” groups, and . . . apparently.

God&America on October 11, 2007 at 12:29 am

Debbie, I, too have left wing Jewish relatives. They see me as more or less a criminal while I see them as worthless to dangerous morons. Perhaps you and I could start a self help group?

Anonymous1 on October 11, 2007 at 12:24 pm

Um, excuse me, but religious clergy are never off duty. Not really.

AirborneVet on October 11, 2007 at 1:51 pm

It’s time to form a posse, much like the Guardian Angels, to defend clergy and others who are being targeted by jihadists.

1389 on October 11, 2007 at 8:25 pm

It’s time to form a posse, much like the Guardian Angels, to defend clergy and others who are being targeted by jihadists.

1389 on October 11, 2007 at 8:26 pm

My name is Muneer, and I am from the wealthy Issa Family in Ann Arbor. I am currently a student at the U of M and I am part of a family that is very educated and involved in the community. What is stated above in this article about my family is not true. However, the person that hit the Jewish kid has the same Last Name like me, but he is not from the same family. My last name is a very common name from Palestine; it could be compared to the name John in America. I feel like this is very important to understand because my family ìThe Issaísî is a much respected family in Ann Arbor.

Muneer Issa on December 1, 2008 at 7:47 pm

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