March 9, 2010, - 11:24 am

I Warned You About Glenn Beck (& Prince Al-Waleed & FOX News)

By Debbie Schlussel

For almost a year, I’ve been warning you about the right’s new false TV messiah, drama queen Glenn Beck.  And I warned you for several years about how FOX News toes the Islamic line, per its second largest investor and Rupert Murdoch crony, Saudi billionaire Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal, which is why I call it PAWNN–the Prince Al-Waleed News Network.

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Glenn Beckmessiah Calls Geert Wilders a “Fascist”

I warned you about Beck’s gushing slobber over the Saudi’s/Syria’s/Hezbollah’s/the PLO’s favorite Congressman, Darrell Issa a/k/a Jihad Darrell.  And, then, I warned you about it a second time, when he called Issa “principled.” And I told you how this ignoramus, Beck–who like a monkey, parrots whatever his producers tell him–repeatedly features what he claims are “moderate” Muslims on his show, when those “moderates” are, in fact, extremist Muslims.

I warned you about how Beck openly endorses global warming junk science and green movement socialism, how he gushes over smug lefty George Clooney, and how he matches his employees’ contribution to left-wing charities.  And don’t forget his crazy statement that Scott Brown’s career will end with a dead intern.

So, I’m not sure why, yesterday, so many readers were shocked–shocked!–when Beck called Dutch politician Geert Wilders, the most well-known and effective fighter against the Islamic takeover of Europe, a “fascist.”  I got a ton of e-mails about it.  Some readers said, “you warned us about Beck,” but others were surprised and finally awoke from their slumber.  Better late than never.  Moreover, Beck endorsed the UK ban on Wilders entering the country.  Wilders, today.  Beck, tomorrow.  There are many who would incorrectly group the moron Beck with the much wiser Wilders and ban them both if they could.  So much for Beck’s claim to be a libertarian and support free speech.

For the record, I like Wilders, think he’s very courageous, and support his efforts.  However, I haven’t written much about him because I am troubled by some problems that he could easily address if he wanted to:

First, some of his supporters, a very small percentage of whom are neo-Nazis and fascists.  I know Wilders doesn’t support or agree with this, but I’m troubled that he hasn’t spoken more loudly against them and weeded them out of his group of supporters.  I’ve gotten some of their e-mails, and a number of us politically conservative Jews, yesterday, had to unfriend one of his European supporters on Facebook, when she posted as her icon, a cartoon of her in an SS uniform.  (She said it was sexy and kinky.   Um, tell that to most of my family on both sides who didn’t quite think that as they were being shoved into ovens or made into lampshades).

On top of that, I’m very troubled by Wilders’ very close association with an American woman who made her money through a car dealership (which she co-owned and of which she was an officer), which made it a practice to engage in car loan fraud, using Muslim straw buyers.  Police said the owners, which includes her, were in on the scam because it made them a lot of money, and then a cop was killed, as was the only employee of this woman who had the honesty and decency to inform police about the scam.  The man was assassinated in a hit.  And this woman is Wilders’ chief supporter in the United States. Clearly, he doesn’t do very careful vetting . . . or much vetting at all.

Still, the Beck comment is troubling.  But it’s consistent with Glenn Beck.  Contrary to popular belief, he isn’t smart or well-read or knowledgeable.  But he’s an actor.  And the lowest element of the conservative movement–those with little or no critical thinking skills–eat up his drama queen act.  If he’s against Obama, they’re buying, no matter what.  And that’s sad.

Not only is it sad, but it’s no different than the Obamamessiah crowd.  Except that some of them have woken up.  Hopefully the Beckmessiah crowd will wake up, too.  But I doubt it much.

Beck owes Geert Wilders an apology.  He wouldn’t dare call any Muslims, like his benefactor/employer Prince Al-Waleed, “fascists.”  But they are.  How sad that self-appointed “Fair and Balanced” doesn’t know the difference.

If you’ll notice, the network no longer uses that description, nor does it use, “We Report.  You Decide.”  That’s because they’ve already decided for you.

It’s up to you to allow them to do so.  Or to do your own independent research and employ critical thinking.

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79 Responses

When I first ever heard of Beck I listened to him a few times but his preachy, sort of “Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show” type of presentation totally turned me off. Since then I have never listened to his show and have no intention of ever doing so. I still like Roger Hedgecock since he doesn’t appear to dance to anyone’s tune.

K: On target. Roger is Terrif. DS

kenny komodo on March 9, 2010 at 11:43 am

Glenn Beck also routinely endorses Ron Paul. It seems that Beck is a huge fan.

(Wilders I also find, at times, problematic…but it’s that whole European-style “conservatism” which isn’t really akin to North American “conservatism.” News reports are suggesting that Wilders may be the next Prime Minister.)

J.S. on March 9, 2010 at 11:49 am

trying to get a beck fan to wake up is like trying to wake up an obambot, impossible till they see them kill a kitten on live TV and then they would still have blind followers.

when you see beck cry you just want to slap him a few times and tell him to “Man up”.

ender on March 9, 2010 at 11:53 am

    ender – “when you see beck cry you just want to slap him a few times and tell him to “Man up”.

    I don’t think you can man up this ‘guy’. I’ve come up with a new name for Beck – Glendella – because he cries like a woman at some soppy movie.

    I could be wrong about Beck’s crying, maybe his meds have changed recently.

    Jarhead on March 9, 2010 at 3:21 pm

you’re a beacon of light and truth.

keep up the excellent work.

david on March 9, 2010 at 11:56 am

well said Debbie. I for one was not surprised by Beck’s comments on Wilders, I saw it coming just like you did. Beck is like many conservatives and most liberals, clueless on the issues that matter, couldn’t actually bother you know reading up on anything, he’s like most people in other words. Doesn’t know anything and doesn’t want to know anything. As for Fox, I am sick to death of hearing from clueless North American Jews I meet here in Israel that Fox is pro-Israel. no it’s not, it’s too inane and silly to be pro anything, to stand for anything. To be fair a lot of American Jews do recognise this, well a few at any rate. All the mainstream media in the US needs to be boycotted and avoided as much as possible, it explains a lot though.

Larry70 on March 9, 2010 at 11:59 am

I am surprised Beck would label Geert Wilders a Fascist considering all the ‘teaching’ Beck has been doing on communism, socialism, progressives and even pointing out that Fascism is not ‘right-wing’ but just another form of statism.

Sometimes Beck has some good things to say but I always check what he says. After all … his latest best buddy O’Reilly has become an Obama apologist. Beck should stay away from the Islamic subject as he knows nothing about it.

Terry on March 9, 2010 at 12:04 pm

What can I say, other than you are spot on about all of this.

Kelly on March 9, 2010 at 12:05 pm

I find when Beck cries to be pretty pathetic as well. And he should buy a pair of shoes if he wants to be taken seriously as an adult.
On the other hand, although I have lots of problems with Beck, any enemy of my enemy is my friend, at least for now. If he convinces droves to vote against this regime that’s fine by me. I would love him to stop encouraging a third party, but, I’ll take what I can get for now. I doubt all that many will flock to Ron Paul.
Destroying the Democrats is my goal and I would accept any and all weapons in that fight. If I get a little dirty in the process, I’ll take a shower later.

Bob on March 9, 2010 at 12:07 pm

Excellent comments Deb! I have always been rather skeptical about Beck. He’s too much of an actor. His conservativism strikes me as an act designed to entertain the like minded rather than serious commentary. I generally like FOX, but I get annoyed with the “conservative entertainment” aspect of Beck, O’Riley and Hannity. Frankly I wish they would offer Charles Krauthammer his own half hour of pure political analysis and commentary.

As for Wilders…. I’m not sure yet. He strikes me as a politican capitalizing on xenophobia. On the other hand, he seems to be one of the only voices rightly decrying culture of fear and intimidation that Islamicist have created in Europe if anyone dares criticise any aspect of Islam. He absolutely needs to curtail the vocal support of neo-Nazis and distance himself from them or risk being marginalized.

Kaiser Sozay on March 9, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Actually, Mr. Wilders’ greatest concern is staying alive. If need be, he has a welcome place of refuge here in Bay Point, California, USA. Islam, submission….our 1st ammendment allows me to discuss the related miscreants and their abberational behaviors; our 2nd ammendment ensures that jihad-type of activities, including the slicing of throats, will not be tolerated. Beyond what Geert has already voiced, not only in his country, but, also to the House of Lords in London, 05 March, I will add this: Islamofacists…carry your sorry pathetic selves back to Medina, Mecca, whereever, that will gladly accept a 7th-century existence as being the norm.

    Gary Callihan, Bay Point, CA, USA

    Gary Callihan on March 9, 2010 at 10:20 pm

Dabbie,

Geert Wilders is indeed a courageous man. His life is in danger every day as he “confronts” radical Islam.

Your description of Fox News is a bit too “black and white” for me. Sure Beck is goofy, but there are a number of personalities on Fox New that warrant accolades. Krauthammer is one of them. You take the good with the not-so-good. Fox News is still miles better than any other MSM news network.

CM: True, Krauthammer is generally on target (though he supported Israel giving up Gaza to HAMAS and opposes all “settlements” in Israel, which includes suburban Jerusalem neighborhoods. Yes, FOX News is better–only slightly–than the rest of the MSM. But that should not be the standard. And since you and others allow it to be, we will never have what could be a great news network. FOX is only moderate. It is not conservative. DS

Craig Mulligan on March 9, 2010 at 12:26 pm

Sorry for the typo

Craig Mulligan on March 9, 2010 at 12:28 pm

Beck tries to portray himself as somewhat of a “teacher” or a “mentor” to his viewers, but he comes off as that drunken uncle who only stops by once or twice a year spouting off garbage. And there is a reason why that drunken uncle only stops by once or twice a year. OK, I have heard that he has been on the wagon for a little while, but the guy has got to be taking something – maybe he didn’t give up drugs, just booze.

Jarhead on March 9, 2010 at 12:42 pm

i had managed to be a beck supporter and admirer – despite his over-the-top drama – because i thought… assumed, to be honest… that he would share my strong values of pro-jew/isreal and revulsion with islam/muslims.

now i know better. his wilders insult has forced me to write-off beck completely.

thanks debbie!

howardroark on March 9, 2010 at 12:50 pm

Great post Ms. Schlussel! Anyone obsessing over a tv personality has a problem. My biggest disappointment with this country is the celebrity worship. I saw Bill O. auctioning off a poster of himself and Glenn Beck. Even though the proceeds would go to the Wounded Warrior charity, it just creeped me out. It seems we all want our fifteen minutes of fame by living vicariously through celebrities. Rather pathetic.

rob o'connor on March 9, 2010 at 1:00 pm

Who are YOU?

Bill on March 9, 2010 at 1:06 pm

Like all other media celebrities, Beck will continue to have his low and high points. His history on the Progressive movement was very impressive. I’ve also watched him ridicule Al Gore & his Global Warming acolytes with real facts. As you point out, Debbie, the important aspect of any news is the listeners’ independent research. Glenn Beck may be a lot of things but he’s not Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews.

BernardL on March 9, 2010 at 1:20 pm

Jarhead, “Beck tries to portray himself as somewhat of a “teacher” or a “mentor” to his viewers, but he comes off as that drunken uncle who only stops by once or twice a year spouting off garbage.”

Great analogy!

As I’ve said before, I caught his radio show for about 10 minutes last year and couldn’t take any more. I couldn’t undertand what all the hoopla is about.

It was just some guy thinking he was a lot more clever and entertaining than he really is….like Jarhead said, just spouting off garbage.

I don’t even watch Fox News anymore. After O’Reilly’s nonsense, reading how Pawn Hannity ripped off Debbie, Geraldo, and now this goof Beck I got tired of it. At least CNN isn’t even bothering to make a pretense of being balanced.

If Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin are the most well known supposedly conservatives, say hello to 8 years of Obama/Pelosi.

Jeff_W on March 9, 2010 at 1:20 pm

I found this connection about three weeks ago with Fox/Saudi Prince $$$ connection looking up something at the American Thinker I think it was, put the link, warning, here and there, twitter as well, not much attention was paid, now this Wilders thing has really got many paying attention…sure glad you have this here as well Debbie…put the link on twitter as well.

I’ve listened to Beck now and then since CNN start…along with move to Fox…I already knew about much of what he was reporting, but was glad he was getting a lot of it out there for others who may not have regarding ‘O’ and connections, blah blah blah…but he went too far with me when he called some of us that question ‘O’s original birth of origin/birth certificate, ‘birthers’ as loons etc…that was it for me…he was already getting on my nerves with his obvious arrogance that was becoming very annoying swiftly…he will do his own-self in…and he is doing it daily lately.

Diamond Girl on March 9, 2010 at 1:20 pm

I’m a Beck fan,but becoming less so as time goes on.

I like the information from him on what the Obama administration is doing that isn’t broadcast anywhere else.

However,his embrace of global warming junk science and George Clooney and bashing of Geert Wilders and the “birthers” also have caused me to have second thoughts about this guy.

Thanks Debbie,for keeping us informed about this guy.

ebayer on March 9, 2010 at 1:26 pm

I didn’t see Beck’s show, but did catch Brett Baier’s show (formerly Brit Hume’s hour) – Brett wasn’t there, but Krauthammer, KRistol, and some chick from The Hill.com were all lambasting Wilders. I was really shocked at the lockstep of the group until I remembered the move to Islamopandering by ol’ Rupert. I can’t stand Beck – he is a hysteric and doesn’t help the cause of Conservatiism at all. I don’t think that was his objective from the get-go. My opinion of Krauthammer really went down – he is a former flaming lib from Montreal – so maybe his stripes were only painted on.

Sioux on March 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm

We should give Geert Wilders dual U.S./Dutch citizenship and have him come over to the U.S. to head up the DHS. (Yeah, I know. It’s just wishful thinking.)

Jarhead on March 9, 2010 at 1:37 pm

Schlussel said: “I’m very troubled by Wilders’ very close association with an American woman who made her money through a car dealership (which she co-owned and of which she was an officer), which made it a practice to engage in car loan fraud, using Muslim straw buyers.”

What are you talking about? What American woman (Wilders’ chief supporter in the United States, you say)? Why don’t you give her name? Otherwise everything here comes across as a gossip column. How about providing some links to support your statements.

“…some of his supporters, a very small percentage of whom are neo-Nazis and fascists. I know Wilders doesn’t support or agree with this, but I’m troubled that he hasn’t spoken more loudly against them and weeding them out of his group of supporters.”

Well, actually he does all the time if you read the papers here.

Don’t get me wrong, I support Wilders. I voted for him and if things go well he may have enough seats in the Tweede Kamer to form a coalition government but so far no other party seems like they will be willing to do that.

Huis on March 9, 2010 at 2:44 pm

Rob O’Connor, right on! Praise the ideas, not the purveyor.

Gregg on March 9, 2010 at 2:51 pm

O.K., maybe one exception.

Gregg on March 9, 2010 at 2:53 pm

If Beck was a dog, he’d be one of those “special” dogs that chases his own tail.

Truth on March 9, 2010 at 2:55 pm

Glen Beck will betray conservatives.

moonbater on March 9, 2010 at 3:00 pm

I actually saw Beck’s show, and the appalling Fox all-stars with Kristol and Krauthammer.

I was horrified.

How much more information has to be out there exposing the truth behind this death cult posing as a religion before we stop playing right into the hands of the stealth jihad?

Yesterday, Fox News dealt a blow to freedom-lovers and all people living under the foot of this movement.

Vince on March 9, 2010 at 3:24 pm

I found this Beck interview of Geert. It’s about a year old:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ9v7JxAn3c

It’s not bad.

Here is a video of what Glenn said yesterday:
http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-foolishly-calls-geert-wilders-a-fascist/

Watch them both.

Here is where I think Glenn is wrong. He’s been on this mission to expose the Progressives. He has correctly (as recently as a WEEK ago) pointed out that Fascism is on the Left (“more government”.)

(FYI, I watch about 2.5 shows per week and that’s only going back a few months, so I’m no Glenn Beck expert.)

Where he goes wrong is defining the scale of Left to Right in terms of the amount of government (“Left” having lots of government and “Right” having less.)

It’s really about “control”. The Left is about central control and the Right (Conservatism) is about the Individual. This is how we should think about it.

I think we’re getting caught up in definitional issues. The European Right is not the same as Conservatism.

He may be right that the European Right is somewhat Fascist. We can’t assume that the European Right is Conservative!

To me, what all of this shows, is how exceptional and unique the United States has been. We ARE the only true Conservative country – even when under attack from the Modern Liberals/Progressives.

One more thing: if Greece can’t get its act together (unlikely) and/or the EU doesn’t bail them out, then we may see a rise in Fascism (akin to how Jonah Goldberg says that the Fascists and Socialists in Germany were RIVALS, not opposites or much different.)

Last week, some German MP (I think) suggested that Greece sell off some islands. This will push the Greeks to nationalism and Fascism. Greece is already Socialist.

See, no matter what, it’s not “Conservative” as we in the US define it.

Alz on March 9, 2010 at 3:30 pm

Debbie

FNC IS KILLING the goose that laid the golden egg!

I emailed to Charles Krauthammer re his segment on Fox, informing him that I was in agreement with intellectuals such as Churchill when it comes to the subject of islam. I closed by saying I thought Churchill has a slightly better grasp of the topic than he does:-)

…no stronger retrograde force exists…militant and prostelizing…sluggish methods of commerce…fanatical frenzy…fatalistic apathy…HELL YEAH!

Julie on March 9, 2010 at 3:59 pm

[Debbie - For the record, I like Wilders, think he’s very courageous, and support his efforts. However, I haven’t written much about him because I am troubled by some problems that he could easily address if he wanted to:]

Debbie – You are the best source of information I can find because you provide great analysis and you maintain your credibility and integrity. You are not afraid to criticize those whom many would consider to be “on your side” when such criticism is well earned.

However, I believe you have made a mistake here. Not only is Mr. Wilders a courageous hero, but without him Europe most certainly would be lost (and it still might be). He is not simply Europe’s last , best hope. He is Europe’s only hope.

You are denying your readers access to important information about Mr. Wilders. As I am sure you know he is being prosecuted in his home country despite the fact that the prosecutor declined to bring charges because Islamists and their allies convinced a court to order the prosecution (Apparently courts can do that in Europe). The charge is hate crimes, I believe associated with his movie (Fitna). Everything in his movie is documented either by Islamic writings or speeches that are on tape.

He is being prosecuted despite the fact that his fellow countrymen think so well about him that the party he leads has been doing very well in local elections and may be the largest party after the next election (He might even become Prime Minister while sitting in jail …).

He is probably the number one target of Islamic assassins worldwide yet he travels all over the word to spread his word.

Debbie – please do not deny your readers important information because of a few flaws. Yes, Pamela (Scamela as you now call her) and Robert are among her biggest supporters. However I believe the positive outweighs the negative here and you would b benefiting your readers tremendously by writing about him.

I_AM_ME on March 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    “You are denying your readers access to important information about Mr. Wilders.”

    How is Debbie denying anyone information? Unless someone only has access to this website, there is plenty of information available, both friendly and unfriendly, about Geert Wilders. Unless you are a child or have a caregiver, you are free to go anywhere you want online. If you fail to do so, that is your problem, and not Debbie’s.

    Worry01 on March 9, 2010 at 9:21 pm

      [Me (I_AM_ME) - You are denying your readers access to important information about Mr. Wilders.]

      [Worry01 - How is Debbie denying anyone information? Unless someone only has access to this website ... ]

      You misinterpreted me. Even among those people who understand the Islamist threat and know what has happened in Europe, Mr. Wilders is not very well known. Much of the information written about him are simply smears and not anywhere near the truth.

      Debbie has a soapbox, the credibility and the knowledge to “spread the word” to those who may not be aware of Mr. Wilders at all plus those who are only aware of the smears. This audience would gain a lot if Debbie wrote about him.

      What bothers me is that by her own admission Debbie has limited what she has written about Mr. Wilders because of some flaws (of which she is correct). When she does write about him she could do what she did here and point out these flaws.

      I have a hard time believing what I wrote could be reasonably interpreted as meaning Debbie was censoring information from her readers. That is simply absurd. However if that is how you interpreted what I wrote than I apologize.

      I_AM_ME on March 9, 2010 at 11:55 pm

Here is Fox News in all its glory. DO NOT TRUST THEM NOW.
Former Fox Fan.
News Corp chief Rupert Murdoch announced on Tuesday that the Gulf emirate of Abu Dhabi is to become the headquarters of his global media empire in the Middle East.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.0a9e7c090b996d0023516a49b0861d29.a1&show_article=1

LH on March 9, 2010 at 5:14 pm

Despite having noted Debbie’s previous warnings about Glenn Beck I was, until yesterday, very impressed by his recent work in exposing the Marxists surrounding Obama and even more impressed by his work on the problems of big government (I found his book “Arguing With Idiots” to be quite brilliant). I guess I was hoping that Debbie might be wrong or that Beck might have finally understood the nature of the Islamist threat. So I was bitterly disappointed (and even shocked) to hear Beck’s comments about Wilders. Although I didn’t see the subsequent Panel discussion with Krauthammer I am even more disappointed to hear that he also weighed in against Wilders since he strikes me as being one of the sharpest political brains around. But then again it’s the same here in the UK. I was at dinner Saturday night with two staunch Zionist friends who Americans would regard as ‘liberal leaning’. I mentioned that I would like to have attended the demo that had taken place in London on Friday (meaning the EDL demo in support of Wilders) and their immediate reaction was to assume I was talking about the counter-demonstration by the UAF (the Marxist-Islamist alliance) since they automatically assumed – from following only the UK media – that Wilders was a ‘fascist’ and the UAF was a well-meaning anti-fascist group. Despite never having seen Wilders speak nor read any of his words they were happy to label him a fascist purely because he was opposed to Islamism.

Edgar Davidson on March 9, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Re Beck, I have to admit I had a favorable opinion of him until reading the posts for the last few months. I had just listened to bits & snatches of his show, and the things that I caught and heard about were the outing of Van Jones, and his calling for a third party. The things you have cited have changed my mind about him, and of course discredit him and make him just another kook with libertarian leanings.

On a broader scale, as you suggested, this shows the danger of a one-dimensional political view, i.e. limiting a conservative perspective to an anti-Obama political program, at least the most obvious points like health care and disregarding, or rejecting appropriate viewpoints on other, internationally based issues.

. The defining events of the 20th century, and of history in general are international in scope, World Wars I and II, the Vietnam War, the Great Depression, the rise and fall of Communism, etc. It is not possible to accurately assess politics from an isolated U.S. perspective without accounting for the international environment, in this case, the Muslim threat to civilization. Other talk-show hosts and political pundits have the same problem as some of the comments discussed, e.g. lack of clarity on the Mideast.

Re Wilders, I didn’t know these things, but there may be an analogy to Joe McCarthy. There is no evidence I’m aware of that McCarthy was anti-Semitic; his top aide was Jewish, he tried to build bridges to Jewish anti-Communist organizations, but, unfortunately, a number of anti-Semitic persons and organizations also supported him and he did not disavow that support. Maybe if his top aides had spoken to him about it, or groups like the Jewish War Veterans had brought this to his attention, but who knows?

I don’t know enough about Wilders to know if his unsavory connections are accidental or not; hopefully they are not intentional, and people can set him straight following the example of this post.

Little Al on March 9, 2010 at 5:54 pm

Glenn Beck is only a symptom of a much larger problem on the Fox News Channel. You may try reading Debbie’s posting again. Mr. Beck has done a number of questionable things that really call into question his knowledge and sincerity. Finally, it seems rather silly to claim that Debbie’s appearance or non-appearance on that network has anything to do with her criticism. Do you criticize President Obama simply because you are not part of his administration? I would gather that you would consider such a conclusion absurd. So, why do you ascribe such a motive to Debbie when she criticizes someone like Glenn Beck.

Worry01 on March 9, 2010 at 6:05 pm

So Beck isn’t well-read or knowledgable because he’s not a member of MENSA? Is that it?

JS on March 9, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    “So Beck isn’t well-read or knowledgable because he’s not a member of MENSA? Is that it?”

    Actually, the question for you is do you do you actually read what has been posted before spouting off? It does not take a MENSA membership to check out what Mr. Beck has said on his program, or to examine his assertions about various things. Mr. Beck barely got out of high school, and never seriously attempted to augment is education after that. He poses as an intellectual quite often, but does not have the intellectual firepower or knowledge to back it up, and thus falls on his face quite often. The point is not to not watch the man, but to take what he states as fact skeptically. Mr. Beck does make some worthwhile points, but to find them is like digging pearls out of manure.

    Worry01 on March 9, 2010 at 6:38 pm

Can not facism be used for good?

Fringe Group Mediation on March 9, 2010 at 6:48 pm

Thanks, Deb, and good job, everyone. Glen Beck will soon go the way of the “poor player” in MACBETH, all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Mack Hall on March 9, 2010 at 7:03 pm

How about his ridiculous program today with Massa another moron?

Is Massa a muslim and his main reason for hating emmanuel?

“Accused of blasphemy, four children were arrested and kept in unacceptable and inhuman conditions in adult jails, while they were innocent, and the charges against them were false. They were incarcerated for several months. The legal complaint against the children has not been dismissed to-date. Pakistan’s notorious Blasphemy Law is being used against Ahmadi Muslims and other minorities to settle personal scores.

am writing this letter to relate my positive experience with U.S. Rep. Eric Massa, D-Corning, and his office. I am long-term resident of Corning. I was trying to help four kids back in Pakistan who were detained in jail because of their religious beliefs. (My family is originally from Pakistan).
These kids belonged to a minority religious community called Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam.”

Ahmadiyya Times staff

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check this out:

http://www.frumforum.com/the-beck-malkin-throwdown

Jim on March 9, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    What do your comments have to do with this subject? Please post this stuff elsewhere, rather than spamming here.

    Worry01 on March 9, 2010 at 9:26 pm

Geert Wilders was on the Alex Jones show. Jones is an anti-semetic kook that claimed to have captured a “Draco”. Wilders would be smart to avoid both Beck and Jones.

B: Whoa. That’s bad. Thanks for this info. Jones is a lunatic and anti-Semite, just as you say. DS

Brian on March 9, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Brian, could you source this please?

    skzion on March 9, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    I will be generous and assume that Geert Wilders was not fully aware of who was interviewing him. It would be a bit much to expect someone from the Netherlands to be entirely up on American talk show personalities. That being said, if Mr. Wilders repeats the appearance after being properly informed of his views, he has a very big problem indeed.

    sorrow01 on March 10, 2010 at 1:26 am

    This is Alex Jones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)

    sorrow01 on March 10, 2010 at 2:06 am

      Hey sorrow01, I was looking for a source for Wilders being on the Alex Jones show. I know who Jones is, alas.

      skzion on March 10, 2010 at 10:23 am

If this be fascism, make the most of it.

tehag on March 9, 2010 at 10:32 pm

Brian, do you have a link or a clip? I’m Dutch and no supporter of Wilders but I respect his intelligence. I find it extremely unlikely he’d have anything to do with complete loon Alex Jones.

Simon on March 9, 2010 at 11:52 pm

The day before yesterday, Beck had David Horowitz, Front Page Magazine, on his radio show. Beck gave Mr. Horowitz a lot of time on his program, as Mr. Horowitz spoke of leftist lunatics in the USA, among other items of interest.

Neil on March 10, 2010 at 1:04 am

Always interesting and informative…Savage talks about Wilders and has had him on his show…wonder what he thinks about this? Curious what do you think about Michael Savage? I tend to think he’s one of the most honest conservative radio hosts out there and very intelligent.

freedom4usa on March 10, 2010 at 1:17 am

Just read about the Beck interview with gay-boy Massa, and it was great to read how pathetic Glenndella’s interview was with Massa. Ratings whore Beck got punked!!! I think one of the funniest things that should have happened at the end of this interview was Ashton Kutcher coming out and telling Beck that his sorry ass got punk’d.

Jarhead on March 10, 2010 at 11:29 am

I second the motion that Debbie is the best source of detailed, honest information. Thanks Debbie, thanks!
The tyrannical takeover of our country (& world) involves managing the media and the information we have access to. This can manipulate our emotions, our pocketbooks,our freedom and our safety. There should be a special place in hell for liars and bad actors who pretend to care about America yet do the bidding of our enemies.
Geert Wilders does important good deeds and certainly did not deserve to be dismissed as a Fascist by Beck.
Beck brought attention to the communists in the White House but at the same time he never addresses terror-related issues or Islamification. This is a glaring ommission.
Lets get real here. FOX TV is now Saudi TV. Recently, I have seen the very same talking heads that many people thought were patriots dripping with sympathy for Islam (e.g. for women who wear burka’s) and for poor Obama’s pain in trying to bring us his wonderful(/sarcasm) Health Care plan. These talking heads are not our trusted friends, kiddies. They are paid mouth pieces – just like Beck.
These mouth pieces are starting to speak “Arabic” – the same as other TV networks.

Cat K on March 10, 2010 at 12:38 pm

Beck is an actor (drama queen) whose primary goal is making as much money as he can. Beck can be bought. I admit that I was once taken in by his BS because he does support many Libertarian causes. When he crossed the line with Debra Medina I wrote him off for good. This is much worse. Libertarians and conservatives are far better off without Beck,as DS has been telling us for a long time.

Bonzer Wolf on March 10, 2010 at 1:55 pm

I’ve heard conservative talk show hosts like Mike Church and Mark Levin question his conservatism and call him a “phony”.
Maybe Debbie can get Mike Church to comment on Beck Friday when she’s on his show commenting movies and politics.
I really do hate it when Republicans divide and implode attacking each other. And a 3rd party is not a good idea. Reagan said so himself. That’s the 1st thing Democrats would love to see. But I got to agree: Beck IS a phony.

Ed Davila on March 10, 2010 at 2:51 pm

I’ve met Geert Wilders. Whatever you want from him I promise you he will disappoint you, he’s a very strange little man.

He also surrounds himself with some known fascists and anti-Semites. He claims in the media that he doesn’t want fascists and anti-Semites among his supporters, but in practical terms he does nothing about distancing himself from them. You would do well to judge him by his actions, rather than his speeches.

He was also, you will remember a confidant of the Theo van Gogh, a man who was an outspoken critic of Islam, but was also an anti-Semite. His first movie ‘Luger’ was criticized for anti-Semitism by a variety of Dutch Jewish organizations. He also angered members of the Jewish community by making comments about what he referred to as the “Jewish preoccupation with Auschwitz”. During a 1991 magazine interview Van Gogh explained a smell of caramel in his neighborhood by saying “today they’re only burning diabetic Jews”. After criticism by Jewish historian Evelien Gans, he wrote: “I suspect that Ms. Gans gets wet dreams about being f***d by Dr Mengele.”

So these are the views of Wilders and many/most of his supporters. Yes they hate Islam, but only because they hate all foreigners. The “You’re not much if you’re not Dutch” crowd.

The Purple Cow on March 10, 2010 at 2:54 pm

Sorry, The Purple Cow, but you have no credibility with me. As I recall, you’re an Islamic apologist.

skzion on March 10, 2010 at 3:26 pm

In any event, the only time you get specific (but only about speech, not actions) is regarding Van Gogh. But this is not about Van Gogh.

Wilders has a long history of philo-Semetism, including an extended stay in Israel. You, however, have a brief stay under a pseudonym here.

You’re right though: None of us should support Theo Van Gogh for Netherlander PM.

skzion on March 10, 2010 at 3:28 pm

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