April 22, 2010, - 4:40 pm

Hey, Parents: Teach Your Kids About Being Gay w/ Archie Comics!

By Debbie Schlussel

When I was a little kid, my dad would buy me Archie comics to read on the Jewish Sabbath.  The comic books were given as a special treat.  My dad loved comics as a kid, had a big collection of Archie and Captain Marvel comics, and wanted to pass that interest along to me.  (Unfortunately, most of our collection got ruined in a basement flood.)

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But, if he were still alive, I doubt he’d give a seven-year-old daughter (that was the age he started giving me the comic books to read) today’s Archie Comics.  You see, they’re pushing a new openly gay character on kids.  Kevin Keller is his name, and Betty and Veronica are more interested in him than Archie.  (I went to elementary school with a kid named Kevin Keller; perhaps he should sue for defamation.)  It’s kind of sad that children are exposed to this stuff and pimped on it at such earlier and earlier ages.  Forget about any kids today really having a childhood.  That concept is gone and over.  Kaput.  Now, little kids will read about “Kevin.”

New York, NY (April 22, 2010): Archie Comics, home of the famous Riverdale High students Archie, Betty, Veronica, Reggie and Jughead, is about to welcome a new classmate this fall! On September 1st, Kevin Keller, Archie Comics’ first openly gay character, will be welcomed into the town of Riverdale.

“The introduction of Kevin is just about keeping the world of Archie Comics current and inclusive. Archie’s hometown of Riverdale has always been a safe world for everyone. It just makes sense to have an openly gay character in Archie comic books,” stated Archie Comics Co- CEO, Jon Goldwater.

VERONICA #202 features the full-issue story, “Isn’t it Bromantic?” that introduces Kevin, Archie Comics’ first openly gay character. Kevin Keller is the new hunk in town and Veronica just has to have him. After Kevin defeats Jughead in a burger eating contest at Pop’s Chocklit Shoppe, she desperately latches onto him. Mayhem and hilarity ensue as Kevin desperately attempts to let Veronica down easy and her flirtations only become increasingly persistent.

Reader Jacob is on target:

I didn’t think it would happen that fast, but Archie Comics has a homosexual character that they will introduce in the Fall. I knew the homosexual agenda would go for Archie sooner or later, but this is quite a shock.

I guess there really is no one you can trust in the entertainment business.

No, there isn’t.

This isn’t about “homophobia.”  If you’re gay, what you do behind closed doors is your business.  What is pushed on American kids in comic books is everyone’s business.

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109 Responses

It’s all about normalizing abnormal behaviour. I’m not saying gay peeps are bad, or should be mistreated AT ALL (I am strongly against that!) but they are just not “normal” and that is ok with me BUT I resent them trying to make me believe that they are normal when they are NOT!

Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 4:48 pm

Wow, I guess nothing is sacred anymore.

Tom Foster on April 22, 2010 at 5:04 pm

Its like sexuality isn’t private behavior any more. What people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their own business but gays are so neurotic and insecure they feeling compelled to share their sexual orientation with the rest of the world. And do we want kids to know whom people sleep with is now every one’s business?

I don’t think its made the fictional town of Riverdale a better place to live. And the decline of America continues.

NormanF on April 22, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    “I don’t think its made the fictional town of Riverdale a better place to live. And the decline of America continues.”

    So the addition of an openly gay character has not “made the fictional town of Riverdale a better place to live”? This would indicate that either the state of the town has either:
    1) Stayed the same
    or
    2) Declined

    If 1, then the addition is completely pointless and does nothing.

    If 2, then you consider the addition of a gay person somehow makes a town less of a good place to live.

    This does not bode well.

    Wil on April 22, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    I know, right! Why do heteros feels so insecure that they need to share their orientation with the world in the form of magazines telling them how to hook up and please each other *shudder* sexually and emotionally, or openly talking about their weddings, or kissing and holding hands in public and other forms of PDA, or talking about their “boyfriend” or “girlfriend” or whatever, or talking about their children which they *yuck* made by having SEX?! Why can’t they keep it to themselves? I don’t want to know, or my kids to know, who sleeps with who. Keep it private and don’t talk about or ever touch or show affection for anyone you may have an intimate relationship with.

    missdk on April 23, 2010 at 4:20 pm

Sure is homophobic in here. Maybe Snow White and Prince Charming shouldn’t push their relationship on unassuming kids either.

Captain Rescue on April 22, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    How about a new character that punches Kevin in the face when he catches him meat gazing in the gym shower.lol

    Joe on April 23, 2010 at 12:34 am

Captain…point out the homophobia. You’re just used to the word shutting down the argument. It’s a canard and we are on to you.

Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Skunky

    Reference to the “gay agenda”. What is this, the sixties?
    Also the line; “I went to elementary school with a kid named Kevin Keller; perhaps he should sue for defamation.”

    Captain Rescue on April 22, 2010 at 6:02 pm

      OMG, you’re a tool. The first one is a FACT. The gay agenda has a plan 10 miles wide…I know…I used to be on the gay’s side…no questions asked, ’til I realized they had an AGENDA and were being unfair and not calling themselves on their Shi’ite and wanted to be handled with kidgloves NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID. When I supported the gays (when I was a Liberal) I was HORRIFIED to see they let NAMBLA march in their Gay Pride Parade. I knew that was wrong, even back then!

      The second one is called HUMOUR, something you don’t understand or have. There is no homophobia here. You have no idea what it is. Get lost.

      Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 6:15 pm

        That was a bad mistake they made, and NAMBLA is no longer allowed to participate in gay pride parades. I feel that the early acceptance of that pretadory, disgusting group inspires anti-gay hatred.

        Matthew on April 24, 2010 at 1:59 am

Sound a bit paranoid there, ma’am. Maybe we should lock our kids in soundproof rooms so they never ever have to see or hear anything that might warp or shatter their terribly fragile and easily-twisted minds. Everything in the world is just doing its best to turn children into smoking drinking raping murdering thieving sodomizing demons of Satan’s army, right? “Oh my god, something that exists is in something made for kids, they’re pushing their evil agenda upon our virgin youth and trying to convert them to the wickedness of something I personally dislike!”

@Skunky: Homosexuality is present throughout the animal kingdom, from our fellow mammals all the way down to fish and even insects. The only reason humans think it’s “abnormal” is because we made up deities that told us it’s “wrong” (and if you look in the Bible it actually says nothing about it, modern interpretations of Sodom and Gomorrah notwithstanding).

It’s such a shame that a country dedicated to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” gets so ravingly angry and fearful of two guys kissing in public.

happyfeet on April 22, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Crappyfeet, no matter how you slice it, it is NOT NORMAL. I like gays (Lesbians, not as much but then everyone is annoyed by them) and treat them like human beings but do not tell me that the behaviour is NORMAL. I don’t think it’s deviant, but do not tell me it is NORMAL. A gay animal is just as abnormal as a gay human being.

    DO NOT TELL ME IT’S ALL THE SAME. It’s not and I resent you peeping on my leg and telling me it’s raining. I’ll never buy it!

    Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 6:20 pm

I had an interesting conversation with a homosexual co-worker a few years ago. He claimed that I was homophobic because I refused to “embrace” (his word) or accept his sexuality. I explained to him that he must have misunderstood what the word phobia means. I explained that it’s an irrational fear of something. I explained to him in simple terms that I was not fearful of him or his sexuality, I told him that in fact he lived a sad and empty life. Sad and empty in that GOD created man and woman to live their lives together as one flesh. Of course, he rejected that concept, but still claimed to be a Christian. I can never say for sure whether or not someone is truly a Christian, as only GOD knows what’s in their heart and mind. But I digress, this Kevin Keller character is more than just another cartoon character. It is simply another assault on the mores of those of us who reject homosexuality. As an Evangelical I accept the person and reject the behavior.

Rocky on April 22, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Some people are happy that way (I don’t know why) but we can’t change people. It works both ways since it’s wrong for them to shove their agenda down our throats as it is to shove morality down theirs when both types of people want to live their own lives the way they want. When I was in 9th grade, some of my classmates made fun of me and constantly criticized my taste in music since I was a fan of P!nk. I did get annoyed and told them to shut the f— up. Becuase what they said had no impact on my opinions and beliefs. Eight years passed, and I’m still a fan of Pink. My point is that it’s not worth trying to change people. I also feel that gays shouldn’t label someone a bigot if they disagree with their lifestyle. A bigot would call them offensive, derogatory names and start friction. But its good Rocky, that you and your co-worker eventually got on good terms.

    Matthew on April 24, 2010 at 1:40 am

Sure is homophobic in here?!… Dear Captain Rescue, I have a newsflash for you: not being in favor of homosexuality doesn’t equal homophobia just as not being philo-Jewish doesn’t make you an antisemite…

I’m neither for nor against homosexuality… What adult people do in the privacy of their abode is their business… I do object however to the pretensions that homosexuality is just like heterosexuality…

Eliezer on April 22, 2010 at 6:17 pm

DON’T BUY ANY more new Archie branded stuff. Archie Comics wants to push their PC agenda on you, push your own purchasing policy on them.

Today’s comics are worthless anyway…there is nothing uplifting about them.

Archie is supposed to be a wholesome comic. It’s not supposed to be
Dawson’s Creek. Archie is for girls, dreaming about boys. And all the giggling to go along with that. What’s hot about a guy who has no interest in them?Way to destroy the brand, AC. Maybe they can do that faster by introducing aggressive bi-sexual Brenda? She can be a real bully in Betty and Veronica’s neighbourhood. Brenda can even be a strap-on dildo rapist who is eventually exposed as a serial killer! And all that was captured on her homemade snuff films. WOW!

Bet, from here on in, there will be brisk trade in Archie comics, in the pre-queer age.

Never Was An Arrow II on April 22, 2010 at 6:18 pm

“The first one is a FACT. The gay agenda has a plan 10 miles wide…I know…I used to be on the gay’s side…”

I laughed more than I should.

Captain Rescue on April 22, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Keep looking in the mirror Cap’n Tard. I’d laugh too if I looked like you.

I see you can only laugh but not deconstruct my argument. Typical. You got no game…just lame.

Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 6:23 pm

@Skunky: It’s no reason to be an ass towards them either.

@Never Was An Arrow: Wow, way to just assume a long line of ridiculousness. Maybe it’ll also open the door to have characters who defecate on other people’s faces for jollies and a guy who looks like Mohammad. Or Zoophile Zan who goes everywhere with his pet rhinoceros and is always trying to show the girls the joys of humping beasts. Or (le gasp) a character who’s a CONSERVATIVE! *little girl scream*

happyfeet on April 22, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Who’s being an ass to them, Crappyfeet? Where did I advocate that? Do you know how to read? You’re so foolish. All emotions and wimpery and no ability to think cognitively. You accuse peeps of doing things they don’t even do. Projection, much?

    Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 6:32 pm

@Skunky: I’m sorry, you’re the one who’s suddenly jumping on the defensive and flinging things at me. Maybe your own self-assurance about how you feel isn’t as strong as you want it to be.

“I don’t dislike gays but I hate that there’s a gay character in a comic where every character is a one-note cardboard cutout” does sound rather anti-gay.

happyfeet on April 22, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Crappyfeet, I’ve been on BOTH sides of the fence (politically, that is) so I am very self-assured. I’ve seen both sides down to the bone, so now I am privy to what is truth and what is HS.

    No, Crappyfeet, YOU’RE on the defensive because I can backup with FACT why I think the way I do and what I have seen…you on the other hand, sling meaningless cliches…they sure do make YOU feel better but mean NOTHING.

    DS is talking about the decline of the American culture and how it is poisoning society by society no longer having proper mores and ideals that keep the chaos out. You can’t see that ‘cuz that’s waaay too deep for you.

    Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Like I said, who people shuck up with is their business. What I object to is their letting me know about it, like it validates what they do together – like I really need to know the details and I would never post them here or anywhere even if it was allowed. The question is why gays feel they can be validated only if we know they sleep together? Us heterosexuals have never seen such a need.

NormanF on April 22, 2010 at 6:50 pm

Because heterosexuals are free to kiss and hug and french and cuddle whenever and wherever they want to, while we can’t even be within two feet of each other without people reacting in a range from clucking in a disapproving way to physically assaulting us. We’re sorry you don’t like it, but sweeping it under the rug and pretending it doesn’t exist is a pretty infantile way of dealing with something.

Stephanie on April 22, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Stephanie…being gay is not normal and THAT is what people are reacting to. The hard, cold truth is that normal people think that what gays do is disgusting. They won’t put it words, but that is what they are thinking. Now you know.

    As far a PDOA…peeps don’t like that with heteros either. Decorum goes a long way. Actually though, in 2010 Gays never had it better or more free…they just wanna whinge because they want people to accept their abnormality as normal. If they could, they would make heterosexuality abnormal and homosexuality normal. That shi’ite is NEVER gonna fly.

    Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 7:24 pm

I’m holding out for Islamopanderer Archie with Betty and Veronica in burqas, Reggie suicide bombing, Jugghead on jihad, and Archie beheading infidels at halftime at the homecoming game.

DS_ROCKS! on April 22, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    “I’m holding out for Islamopanderer Archie with Betty and Veronica in burqas, Reggie suicide bombing, Jugghead on jihad, and Archie beheading infidels at halftime at the homecoming game.”

    Because that seems like the natural outcome of an gay charter in Riverdale?

    Pete Bone on April 23, 2010 at 10:29 am

If you’re going to deride Archie Comics for including an openly gay character (as opposed to the forbidden love between Archie and Jughead) then what about Archie’s decades-long polyamorous relationship with Betty and Veronica?

Conor on April 22, 2010 at 7:03 pm

@Skunky: mmmhm, this coming form someone who calls me “crappyfeet” in his very first response.

DS isn’t doing anything except over-reacting to something, as usual. Homosexuality isn’t destroying anything, nor is it poisoning anything. What is poison is the way people like you think and act about this, especially when you need to hide behind religion to make your argument work. I think mankind has advanced sufficiently enough that we don’t need to believe in invisible boogiemen who constantly demand us to be good lest we suffer eternal damnation in a pit of fire ebcause we like someone with the same genitals we have.

happyfeet on April 22, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Oh, ok Crappyfeet…as long as I follow YOUR LINE OF THINKING it’s all good. Go look up the word FASCIST, ok.

    And what do you mean “how people like me think”? I told you I don’t hate gays…I don’t ever want them discriminated against and that I don’t mind them at all (at one time, I was bias about just wanting GAY friends) but don’t tell me they are NORMAL and don’t tell me they can have a marriage like a man and a woman.

    You just can’t handle it ‘cuz you think everyone who does not agree with you IS a homophobe, but you are saddly mistaken (and obtuse).

    And what makes you think I’m a GUY? How bias of you to judge me when you have no idea if I am male or female. Ah, your bias as shining through, hypocrite!

    Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 7:30 pm

@NormanF
So if someone says they’re gay, that automatically means they’re also having sex with another male.

Do you assume that any pair of male/female is also having sex?

Wil on April 22, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I presume if a man and a woman are in a relationship, they are intimate, yes. So does every one else. But its none of our business if they are or not.

    NormanF on April 22, 2010 at 7:55 pm

      @NormanF
      “I presume if a man and a woman are in a relationship,”

      And you apparently presume any gay person is in a relationship? I didn’t even bring up the “in a relationship” clause. That was you. If someone says they’re gay, they’re automatically in a sexual relationship?

      No such thing as a non-promiscuous gay person, right?

      Wil on April 22, 2010 at 8:07 pm

        I presumed that heterosexual couples are intimate. I didn’t mention anything about gays being in a relationship. You brought that up and I mentioned a man and woman. If someone is gay, that’s their business and they don’t tell me who they are attracted to.

        And I don’t get what you mean by a gay person being non-promiscuous. If they are, then I’m happy for them but that’s not what every study of the gay lifestyle shows. Its the promiscuity that disturbs people even more than the sex act itself. That I do think is a perversion of the divine plan for human existence.

        NormanF on April 23, 2010 at 6:51 am

Wow, you guys are hilarious. You’re against gays being open about their orientation, but straights doing the same is a-okay? Or is a comic built on the romantic shenanigans of two chicks and a dude not demonstrate their orientation? Maybe that’s the HETEROSEXUAL AGENDA being shoved down your throat like a big erect dick and you don’t even notice.

THE GAY AGENDA STRIKES AGAIN on April 22, 2010 at 7:17 pm

“Hey, Parents: Teach Your Kids About Being Gay w/ Archie Comics!”

Actually that should read

“Hey, There’s A New Background Character In Archie Comics Who Is Gay, So I’m Going To Act Like He’s Trying To Destroy America And Convert Our Children To Satanism Because I Like To Knee-Jerk React About Everything! When They Introduce A Character Who Listens To Heavy Metal Music I’ll Say He’s In League With Marilyn Manson And Is Making Our Kids Want To Bite The Heads Off Bats And Murder Preschoolers!”

booga on April 22, 2010 at 7:22 pm

The Gay Agenda is the new Protocols of Zion.

Sirkowski on April 22, 2010 at 7:25 pm

For those who like the older Archie comics and don’t mind getting them on DVD, there are plenty of web sites, including Archie Comics itself, where hundreds and hundreds, maybe thousands of them are available for very low prices.

Even if people like the actual physical hard copies, they are available on eBay, especially if you are willing to accept them in not-great condition, for very reasonable prices. Hopefully this new gay character will not permeate all of the Archie line of comics, just as the New Look does not permeate all of the Archie comics.

The problem is that these politically correct comics exaggerate the role of gays. Are transexuals next? Cross-dressers? Poor misunderstood Muslims?

At least the old Archie comics didn’t have the school Communist in its stories.

Little Al on April 22, 2010 at 7:26 pm

Overreacting just a tad there, Al?

booga on April 22, 2010 at 7:31 pm

And of course in the media, there’s no such thing as a normal looking homosexual, let alone an ugly or weird looking one. Always with the idealisation of “the other”. Do we really HAVE to spend the rest of eternity tip toeing around psychosexual deviancy? It’s like the media saying you can’t call people “crazy” because it might upset the mentally ill…

Jonathan Nolan on April 22, 2010 at 7:52 pm

Spunky: I’ve been on BOTH sides of the fence.

HAHAHA! That’s too easy!

Sirkowski on April 22, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    So easy Stinkowski, you couldn’t even try!

    Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Happyfeet
“(and if you look in the Bible it actually says nothing about it,”

You might want to check;
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals…

Dan on April 22, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Actually the Torah, First five books says “you shall not lie with another man as with a woman, it is an abomination.” It’s in Leviticua18:22 and that’s where paul got it from.

    mk750 on April 23, 2010 at 4:33 am

      self edit: Leviticus

      mk750 on April 23, 2010 at 4:34 am

Another instiution of america just got sold out.

Squirrel3D on April 22, 2010 at 9:17 pm

Damn, Dan, you just condemned Skunky to hell.

Sirkowski on April 22, 2010 at 10:07 pm

LOL, you wish Stinkowski. You’ll be serving the devil and I’ll be with my family in heaven. Suck 2 B U!

Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 10:13 pm

I can see that the NAMBLA and GLAAD crowd have shown up. They did their little group meeting, and then went on to Google the sites to do their spam work. We have seen it so many times, whether it is the Neo-Nazis, Islamists, or Howard Zinn fans, or the John Birchers. You get the boilerplate talking points, the attitude, and the generally juvenile mindset. It is more of a feel good thing for them when the tension beads and poppers get old, rather than an effort to persuade.

sorrow01 on April 22, 2010 at 10:14 pm

Huh…this is kind of a tough one. Basically what it comes down to is I don’t see the point of a gay character in Archie. I highly doubt the decision was made as a gesture of inclusiveness, seems more like a marketing ploy: “Hey! We’re hip, we have Teh Gays! See how tolerant we are somebody pleasepleaseplease read us!”

You can argue all day long as to what is normal or not normal. My daughter knows teenage boys and girls like to kiss each other (she sees this on Nick and Disney)but cannot remotely fathom why (which is good, she is only 8). All the grown up couples she knows are male/female. It would never occur to her that boys would want to kiss boys. Someday she will learn that there are gay people and I’m assuming her world will not come to an end. I just don’t see the need for her to know about it now. And, if she did ask me about it now I’d probably just tell her that some people like people that are the same gender and leave it at that (one she gets old enough to know about the sex part I assume she would figure out the logical conclusion).

Having said that, I’m not sure what I’m trying to say, LOL. I guess that life is confusing enough for kids, though I think they are the ones most likely to accept the idea of homosexuality without turning a hair. Knowing there are gay people doesn’t increase your chances of being gay, though it may help someone who is feeling conflicted and alone start to accept themselves.

Bottom line is, if you leave out the sex stuff, I just can’t get that worked up about kids knowing there are gay people.

Amy on April 22, 2010 at 10:20 pm

I would have figured woman-hating Jughead would have been the first to be outed.

But any rate, whether or not the issue of sexuality really belongs in a comic book aimed at pre-pubescent kids, his sexuality is used as a gimmick, especially when Jughead uses it to get revenge on Veronica. I think the gay crowd might find that a bad means of having children discuss any sort of acceptance.

Rocky on April 22, 2010 at 10:23 pm

This is very simple to evaluate for me. If you believe that the G-d of the Bible is the true G-d, the Creator and the Judge–you agree that homosexuality is sin, and an abomination to G-d.
The fact that we now openly embrace all manner of sin as entertainment and acceptable is the dead canary in the coal mine–it’s toxic down here. This comic is just one more example of life in the Howard Stern, Ellen Degenerate, now shameless Kara whatever age. Porn rakes in more money than all pro sports combined. Abandoning faith in G-d exacts a terrible price.
It will continue to get darker and more wicked. Whether you believe in G-d or not, the Judgement Day is coming like a freight train.

BB on April 22, 2010 at 10:30 pm

Can we be adults and honest for just two seconds.

Being Gay is a terrible thing.

Anal sex rips your colon up. Fecal matter gets into your bloodstream via the numerous rips in your colon. This leads to numerous diseases and infections. Even without AIDS gays are much more likely to die from several diseases than heterosexuals.

If it wasn’t for the power they have as a voting block society would shun them as they have throughout history, well most of history.

It’s a death style not a life style.

SMG45ACP on April 22, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    So… what about lesbians? I mean, they don’t engage in anal sex.

    You also assume that every gay man has anal sex when they’re just as likely to have oral sex. Finally, any health risks gay men may face by engaging in anal sex are also faced by any heterosexual couple who have anal sex.

    What was your argument again?

    Conor on April 22, 2010 at 11:14 pm

SMG45ACP: ummm, lot’s of straight people have anal sex and not all gay people do. Lesbians often do not, but some do and many gay men simply do not. In fact given the low percentage of gay people in the population, the fact that not all of them have anal sex and the high percentage of people who admit to having anal sex, it stands to reason that more heterosexual people have anal sex than homosexual people. After all, you out number us at least 10 to 1.

An argument against anal sex doesn’t begin to explain why it is wrong to be attracted to or to have a life partner of the same sex. So since I don’t have anal sex, my relationship is ok, right? I doubt you’d agree.

Everyone: kids are going to be exposed to gay people because many of us have kids too. Our kids go to school and tell their stories about two moms or two dads and then the secret is out. You can’t protect kids from the knowledge that we exist because we do exist and we attend PTA meetings with our partners and volunteer at field trips and host birthday parties. We don’t have to say anything. I just live my normal life and when someone asks about my husband, I correct that person and say my wife. Otherwise, I’d be lying. Your children see us living lives that look just like their lives (work, soccer practice, etc) except for the gender of the adult partners and that more than any comic will make your kids see how normal we are. So stop imagining us having sex (we likely do less of this than you like to think) and start imagining us working normal jobs, paying taxes and raising families. I do my best not to imagine you people having sex because I think it is disgusting. How about you do the same with us.

Jennifer on April 22, 2010 at 11:19 pm

LOL Jennifer and Conor. Keep telling yourself that heterosexuals and homosexuals can contact aids at the same rate. That’s so early 90’s of you. You want it to so badly be that way but the statistics prove you wrong…but no matter…you’re gonna pretend otherwise.

Three types are most likely to get Aids…homosexual men, bisexuals (because they are more apt to have sex with homosexual men) and drug users.

Wah! You’d rather cry because instead of accepting you’re NOT normal, you’ll circle a square to try to get everyone ELSE to see you as normal. Give it up and just be thankful you have the freedom to live as you want in the USA.

Skunky on April 22, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    “LOL Jennifer and Conor. Keep telling yourself that heterosexuals and homosexuals can contact aids at the same rate.”

    Hmm, that’s interesting, because I didn’t actually say that. I simply stated that if you’re going to oppose homosexuality on the grounds that some gay people have anal sex every now and again, then what you’re really opposed to is anal sex, not homosexuality.

    And while gay men are at a higher risk of contracting HIV, that doesn’t deny the fact that, according to a 2008 report on the global AIDS epidemic from the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS, women make up almost 50% of AIDS sufferers.

    Here’s the report, if you want to read it:

    http://www.unaids.org/en/KnowledgeCentre/HIVData/GlobalReport/2008/2008_Global_report.asp

    And here’s the Global Health Council page that lead me to the report:

    http://www.globalhealth.org/hiv_aids/risk_groups1/

    Funny that you think I’m gay. I’m actually something far worse – an agnostic and occasional misanthropic humanist. I’m also Irish, not American, and I await your witty barbs regarding leprechauns and Guinness with bated breath.

    Conor on April 22, 2010 at 11:55 pm

      Conor, where did I say I thought YOU were gay? Why do you feel like you have to let people know you are not? As far as big-noting that you’re an agnostic and misanthropic HUMANIST, that’s nice, but I wouldn’t brag about it. Uck, I’m glad you’re not American. You saying that you’re a humanist is all I need to know that you’re a freak who likes to think you’re above he fray when you treat your fellow humans even worse than the religious peeps you have such distain for.

      LOL, you admitting the truth that gay men are at higher risk for contacting HIV is all I need to hear. Bully for you, silly beeotch.

      Skunky on April 23, 2010 at 12:22 am

        Well, the line “You’d rather cry because instead of accepting you’re NOT normal, you’ll circle a square to try to get everyone ELSE to see you as normal” is a pretty big implication that you think I’m gay. Unless, of course, you were directing that solely as Jennifer.

        I’m sorry that I believe in such ridiculous concepts as reason and logic, and that I like to support my arguments with facts. Calling me a freak doesn’t sound very Christian, nor does the delight you take in saying we’re all going to burn in hell while you rock out with Jesus in Heaven.

        It’s a well-known fact that gay men are at a high risk of contracting HIV; it’s not like I ever pretended otherwise. You’re running round in circles with your argument now, giving me nothing but “God told me homosexuality is wrong.” Do you know how many inconsistencies are in that book, how many times God switches from ever-loving father to vindictive tyrant? Hardly the best basis for your argument.

        Skunky, you poor fool – you can’t even see when you’ve already lost.

        Conor on April 23, 2010 at 6:14 am

          Conor, I NEVER used God in my statements so you have NO IDEA where religion comes in my argument. But I know your reading comprehension is low. Oh, bully for you…YES I was speaking to Jennifer directly NOT YOU when I said that, dummy. (The statement to Stinkowski was me shoving it’s jab at me right back down it’s throat! You take EVERYTHING literally I see. Go look up “figuratively”, Einstein,

          YOU have no idea whether I am a Christian, Jew, Buddist or what my religious persuasion is. Ah, your RELIGION bias is showing…but since you do not like religion, you take that energy and place in in your INHUMAN humanism. We’re on to you. YOU were the one who felt you had to scream that you’re anti-religion. No one asked you and no one cares.

          Conor, as long as I am the polar opposite of YOU, I am doing fine. You’re twisted mind sees what you wanna see. Who cares what you think. LOL, loser.

          Skunky on April 23, 2010 at 9:13 am

The heterosexual characters in Archie talk about their relationships, attractions, and dating all the time. One gay character is introduced after decades of the strip and suddenly “homosexual activists are shoving their lifestyles in our faces”? Give me a break. Gay teens are coming out earlier and earlier–as they should, as heterosexual teens “come out” as straight in their early teens. No one’s pushing anything on anyone–if you don’t want your kids to read a comic with a gay character, then don’t buy it.

Scott Spiegel on April 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

I remember back in the days when Archie was an open, proselytizing Christian in the comics.

Never have understood the term homophobia: I don’t fear gays: I just personally disagree with their lifestyle.

Richard on April 23, 2010 at 12:06 am

You ever meet those old people who are so hateful that everyone’s embarrassed to bring them out in public because they might say something really racist? Like those old Dixiecrats no one likes.

In a few decades, that’s going to be Debbie Schlussel and her followers. Society is pretty much going to hate you all, and you’ll console yourselves by saying that it’s worth it because you’re right, or that you’re following God’s will or whatever you want to think to yourselves.

And that’s fine – no one else is going to like you, so you might as well think up reasons to like yourselves. Heck, there’s even that prophecy in the Bible about how people will scorn true believers. Maybe you’ll feel better about being an outcast if you repeat that line to yourselves once in a while.

And then eventually you’ll die of old age and everyone will secretly be relieved.

Libertarian Bulbasaur on April 23, 2010 at 12:44 am

    I was raised by parents with traditional values and I can’t see what good sexual experimentation does for society. We’re losing sight of what’s important. We live at a time when deviancy is being defined “up” and all manner of perversion is rapidly becoming the new normal.

    I can’t speak for Debbie of course but I do have a feeling that the righteous will inherit the earth long after the freaks and carnys who populate our era have passed from the scene. It will be some time before the pendulum swings back as it always eventually does.

    NormanF on April 23, 2010 at 7:00 am

Hi all …PartI
Hey Skunky, 2 thumbs up to you.
I did not take the time to read all the lovely comments that were Pro Homosexuality as a perfectly normal and natural lifestyle, but i don’t think i needed to. The rehtoric is the same as it has been for the last 20 years Gay is good , Gay is great, let us thank gays for the beauty of the world , only gays are right and if you are not willing to accept this as true you are a homophobe. Welllll i can only say to this one thing BAARRRRRRRFFFFFFFFF.
I have Gay friends and i get along fine with them but they do not go out strutting themselves as perfectly normal and they do not tell me they are good religious christians or Jews ,
Homosexuality is condemned in the Bible thus if you wantto be a good christian or Jew you can not be Gay ( the passage says a man shall not lay with a man as with a woman(speaking of intimacy)gays say I don’t do that ,How can you a man does not have the same anatomy so it is not possible….they then say well JEEEEsus did away with the law of the old testament making everything good… after all it says love your brother ( neighbor) as you love yourself( no understanding here about the difference between love and sexual activity) so all you Gay Christians. stop being foolishyou can not be christians in the true sense of the word and be gay cause jesus said to KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS….. part II It’s natural to be gay

Clay on April 23, 2010 at 1:08 am

And we really think we will eventually defeat Islam when boys are taught by HOMOSEXUALS to be accepting of this deviancy?

CaliforniaScreaming on April 23, 2010 at 1:35 am

Debbie reveals her anti-gay prejudice/bigotry and doesn’t even realise it, as others have pointed out – ‘there is a gay character in Archie Comics, gays actually exist in human society but God forbid comic books acknowledge the fact that gays actually exist in you know real life, and Debbie is not homophobic at all, whatever gave you that idea?’.

The homophobic responses to justify this prejudice as non-prejudice are unintentionally comical and illogical and read like nonsense verse.

Hey Debbie I am sure the Islamists who hate Jews and women and well life itself would likewise be appalled (if they knew of it) that Western comic books have gay characters, they would share your phobia here (even as pedarastry is rampant in the Muslim world) and even use it to justify their contempt and hatred for Western decadence no doubt. Naturally this irony is lost on Debbie and her homophobic echo-chamber. The fact that some people here automatically equate gays with peodophilia only proves the point.

Maybe Debbie you can get together with Michigan Muslim residents and hold a bonfire together and throw Archie comics into the flames, it’s one thing you can all agree on, not so?

Imagine if a comic book introduced a Jewish or Hispanic or Native American character where none had existed before and some readers were up in arms about it, calling for a boycott of the comics, saying it was symptomatic of the decline of America and more in that vein, well that would be bigotry plain and simple. You do the same with the introduction of a gay character and it’s not bigotry somehow! and then people here justify it as non-bigotry through the use of bigoted arguments. So it goes.

Larry70 on April 23, 2010 at 3:34 am

    There some prejudices worth having and Debbie would agree with me after Edmund Burke that one needs to be confirmed in one’s good prejudices because not every change of habit or manner is to our benefit. Speaking for myself, I do think homosexuality is a morally defective form of behavior. That is what I do pass judgment on in an era in which making moral judgments makes one appear closed-minded. I don’t apologize about right and wrong and still I accept we’re not going to eliminate evil upon this earth as long as human beings remain imperfect. That means we’re going to have to live with the flaws in human nature since men are not angels. We can tolerate differences for the sake of having a society but it does not mean that all differences are good or desirous of finding a place in the social order. The acceptance of one does not mean acceptance of the other. They do not go hand in hand.

    NormanF on April 23, 2010 at 7:11 am

      Ok, but people shouldn’t generalize all homosexuals as evil. I don’t understand why people are prejudice against gay people Besides very butch women and very effeminate guys who are usually part of the agenda used to shove their agendas down our throats. Heck, I don’t even like effeminate guys because most of them I encountered seemed to be rude, selfish, and actually prejudiced themselves against moral people. There are also homosexuals who have alot of repression and internal stuggle. There are people who come out to their friends and family and get rejected, and no it’s not because they act inappropriate. Some people think its inborn and some think that one is influenced by this behavoir. I’ve heard lots of different stories from people so I think results may vary and don’t really care. It annoys me that people obsess over this.
      I also feel that children shouldn’t learn about sexuality into their teenage years, and feel that it’s in their best interest to have a mother and a father as opposed to single parents or same-sex parents. Don’t get me wrong, there is a fine line between accepting some one and accepting behavoir as a norm. I feel that if gay marriage was legal, it also might totally redefine marriage and that they shouldnt shove their business in everyone’s faces.

      Matthew on April 24, 2010 at 1:16 am

I guess “Don’t ask, don’t tell” will be the next agenda item to appear in Beetle Bailey…

IceNoMore on April 23, 2010 at 4:15 am

Once upon a time…..

Shy Guy on April 23, 2010 at 7:40 am

The homosexuals in the “gay rights movement” are the biggest cowards out there. They will try to bash anything traditionally Western, but when it comes to Islam they bend over backwards to appease it.

Also, like Muslims, gays are not a race, though they like to think they are. It is a behavior and a culture, and people have the right to criticize them, though both Muslims and gays have no tolerance whatsoever for any criticism.

Debbie needs to put up another Predator vs. Alien pick.

JM on April 23, 2010 at 8:42 am

Personally I think the storyline is a good one. I can see a teenaged girl having a huge crush on a guy and not understanding why he doesn’t respond, maybe even thinking there’s something wrong with her, when all it is, is that her crush is gay and isn’t attracted to her. This kind of thing happens. And as another poster said, if you don’t like acknowledging that [gasp] gay teenagers exist….don’t buy the comic! That’s the American way!

justsayin on April 23, 2010 at 8:55 am

A question to all those use the Bible as an argument as homosexuality…
How closely do you follow the Bible?
No shellfish, no sex before marriage, etc…
Honestly curious.

Pete Bone on April 23, 2010 at 10:36 am

God bless ya, Skunky. Your paranoia and ignorance are going to give you enough problems in life without me being all logical and demanding clarity.

But yeah, in summation, who cares if he’s gay, homosexuality is not a choice and a loving God would never condemn you to eternal suffering for it. Later days, people.

Laugh Out Loud!

Conor on April 23, 2010 at 10:52 am

Well, I was going to say it, but then everyone else said it better. So I’ll just say this:

I still don’t understand why some of you seem to feel that gays are ruining the fabric of our society. I mean, it’s an argument that’s thrown around all the time, but what exactly does it mean – HOW are they doing this? How exactly do two men in a relationship = anarchy?

And please spare me this whole “gay agenda” thing – it only works if people ACTUALLY WANT to have sex with people of the same gender. If you don’t want to, then don’t. If someone is physically forcing you to do so, then the issue is that you’re dealing with a rapist, not that you’re dealing with a homosexual. I’m a straight woman with lots of gay friends, and none of them could convince me to have sex with another woman, so I’m not sure how those of you who are so disgusted by the act seem to think that someone would be able to convince you to do it against your will.

hellcat on April 23, 2010 at 11:25 am

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