July 21, 2006, - 12:33 am

Joel Siegel Was Right: Clerks II is Depraved Monument to Decline of Civilization

By Debbie Schlussel
I wish I’d walked out of the Detroit “Clerks II” critics screening at the point Joel Siegel did in New York.
Siegel, ABC’s “Good Morning America” film critic, walked out of the movie when characters were talking about paying a woman to perform oral sex on a donkey. Unfortunately, I stayed and saw the part where a man actually does that–and anal sex with the animal, too.
Where is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals–and Moviegoers–when you need them? This is the deviant “cultural” level to which America has declined. I hope it’s the nadir, but I fear we will decline much further. I’m no prude, but I know what sick is. And Clerks II is the epitome of it.
Clerks“–a mid-1990s low-budget “indie” film–put director Kevin Smith on the map. But, as the disgusting sequel, “Clerks II,” proves, he never deserved to make it there.

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Don’t Waste Your Time on “Clerks II”:

Depraved Movie About Depraved Losers

When I saw the original “Clerks” after much praise and hoopla for the genius boy-wonder filmmaker, I couldn’t understand the hype. The film had maybe three funny scenes and a lot of other boring, obscenity-laced ones. It was the most over-rated film of its day.
Now, “Clerks II” will replace its predecessor for that title. The film is garbage. It’s depraved, disgusting, and demented–all of which reflect the same on its writer/director, the now-worshipped idol of the slacker set, Smith.
The movie is a celluloid monument to the continuing decline of America–and civilization in general. What is funny about bestiality (or “interspecies erotica,” as the movie calls it)? What is funny about losers who have no human decency? What is funny about drug dealers? What is funny about putting flies in someone’s cheeseburger and urine in someone’s drink at a fast-food joint?
If that’s funny to you, you’re a loser, much like Kevin Smith and his characters are. Sure, Smith–creator of the loseratti culture–is now a multi-millionaire from his movies, proving there’s no accounting for good taste in America. But he’s just a loser with money. He is subhuman, as evidenced by this sad, sick silver screen tale. He’ll never arise from the gutter.
The movie was not funny, not interesting, and not the least bit entertaining. It was just frightening–frightening that something like this could make it to the big screen and merit the hype of a repeatedly looping one-hour VH1 special. The cult-following that Smith and his Clerks movies garner is disturbing. But maybe that’s why it’s called a cult following. After all, a whole cult drank poisoned Kool-Aid to their fatal detriment.
And this movie, “Clerks II,” is a moving picture version of that Kool-Aid for our decrepit society. What is likeable about 33-year-old losers who swear and dream up depraved, obscene scenarios all day long? This is Gen-X “wit”? You can hear that on satellite radio. It’s no big whoop. What is likeable about drug dealers who do the same? Nothing.
But Smith likes those kinds of people. What he doesn’t like–as we know from the rest of his repertoire of garbage flicks–are Christians or any religious persons. Clerks II has a heavy, partially-hydrogenated dose of that. A slow, dimwitted fast food worker is–of course!–a Christian. Worse, he’s a Christian who believes in the Bible, was home-schooled, and at age 19 hasn’t had sex with his girlfriend. And–of course!–he’s the one turned on by the “interspecies erotica.” It’s the obligatory, predictable, undue ridicule of morality and decency in this latest Kevin Smith celebration of juvenile, moronic idiots who still haven’t grown up in their mid-30s.
Incredibly, there is a documentary about the making of this trash.
There is nothing likeable or redeeming about any of the characters in “Clerks II.” In fact, if Middle America were truly populated entirely by the Clerks II crew, we should all commit suicide now. There’s nothing worth living for.
But, thank G-d, it’s make believe. That’s why the heroes who save the day are Jay and Silent Bob, drug dealers who’ve made some extra cash through their wise peddling of pot and coke. Drug dealers are the only businessmen the left seems to like. All hail the left’s new twisted, revered version of capitalism.
I didn’t do the smart thing like Joel Siegel and walk out of Clerks II. Instead, I stayed until the end. Unlike the perverted rest of the movie, it’s strangely sanguine–as if this excuses the despicable nature of the rest of the movie to that point. It doesn’t.
But what the long, boring Clerks II does provide is a great opportunity. For an enterprising trial attorney to file a Class Action suit. It’s the only way for thousands of duped movie-goers to get compensation for almost two disturbing hours of their life they wasted.
Two empty hours of their lives, courtesy of Kevin Smith, that they will never get back.

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43 Responses

Debbie if you haven’t seen it, “Walk the Line” was really good, much better than “Ray”. BTW Johnny Cash won the Jewish National Fund\Shalom Peace Award in 1986.

shleppy on July 20, 2006 at 10:25 pm

Debbie,
Back in the 90s, I saw a film titled, “The Cook”, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover” and it was the most unwatchable film I ever saw. I had to take a shower after I saw it. I won’t bother to describe the content here.
Needless to say, Hollywood has plateaued from one type of decline to another. From cannibalism to bestiality, that’s quite an achievement. When you juxtapose this cultural garbage against the statements made by Islamofascists in the forthcoming documentary “Obssession, you wonder how the West can hold the moral high ground.
And survive. That documentary, to which Rush Limbaugh has linked, is a better use of your time and talents as a cultural critic.

NormanF on July 20, 2006 at 11:01 pm

I sense a bit of hypocrisy since Clerks II serves up potty humor just as the Howard Stern show on which you appear does. As a Howard Stern listener I do enjoy hearing your rants though and wish they would cut you off less often.
I HAVE BEEN ON HOWARD STERN ONLY ONCE SINCE HE’S BEEN ON SATELLITE. THEY CALLED ME–AND IT WAS TO DISCUSS IBRAHIM PARLAK, AN ISLAMIC TERRORIST, WITH HIS BUDDY ROGER EBERT. HARDLY HYPOCRISY. AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY DEPRAVITY ON HIS SHOW, AS YOU WELL KNOW. IN FACT, ANYTHING BUT. ON THE CONTRARY, I’VE DENOUNCED AND DECRIED IT. ON STERN’S SHOW, I TALKED ABOUT TERRORISM, ISLAM, AND POLITICS. NONE OF THIS STUFF. DID WILLIAM F. BUCKLEY’S REGULAR COLUMN IN PLAYBOY CONSTITUTE AN ENDORSEMENT OF PLAYBOY AND THE LIFESTYLE IT REPRESENTS? NO. HE WAS JUST, AS I DID, REACHING OUT TO THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE OF THE UNCONVERTED THAT HE COULD FIND. WHY PREACH ONLY TO THE FAITHFUL WHO WATCH FOX NEWS?
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

George in San Diego on July 21, 2006 at 12:21 am

Come on Debbie, don’t leave us hanging. What did you really think of the movie?

Blayne on July 21, 2006 at 8:24 am

Debbie,
Do you know what a spoiler alert is? Just because you got to see the movie before everyone else and didn’t like it, doesn’t mean that other people don’t want to go see it. You give away half the movie without so much as a warning. You did the same thing when you talked about Superman on some vapid Fox-spews (get it, I used the same spoofing as you use for the Detroit news) show and gave away certain plot points before the movie even came out yet. BTW, you were right that Superman was bad, but not because Superman is a representation of the feminization of men, but simply because it had no discernible plot nor any dialogue for the first 30 minutes of the movie.
AM WELL AWARE OF WHAT A SPOILER ALERT IS, AND WHEN IT’S WARRANTED, I EITHER PROVIDE A SPOILER ALERT OR DON’T REVEAL THE PLOT. BUT, PUH-LEEZE, I GAVE AWAY NOTHING ON “SUPERMAN RETURNS” AND NOTHING HERE. BELIEVE ME, IN SO FAR AS THERE IS A PLOT IN “CLERKS II”–AND THERE ISN’T, I GAVE NOTHING AWAY.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Cousnits on July 21, 2006 at 9:30 am

Trackbacks not working again, Deb???
Down with Absolutes!
IF YOU TRIED TO POST ONE AND IT DIDN’T TAKE, THEN APPARENTLY TRACKBACKS ARE NOT WORKING. IT’S BEEN A CONSTANT PROBLEM WITH THIS SITE, AND MY WEBMASTER AND I ARE PERPLEXED AS TO THE PROBLEM. SOME TRACKBACKS WORK BUT THE VAST MAJORITY DO NOT, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE VERY FEW ON THIS SITE. WE GET A LOT OF LINKS BUT FOR SOME REASON THE TRACKBACKS ARE CONSTANTLY MALFUNCTIONING. MY APOLOGIES. DID NOT DELETE A TRACKBACK FROM YOU ON THIS ENTRY.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

mxmat2 on July 21, 2006 at 10:05 am

Debbie,
Thank you for such eloquence in the pursuit of civility… Keep up the fight.

Rick on July 21, 2006 at 10:20 am

STOP READING IF YOU PLAN ON SEEING SUPERMAN BUT HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET
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Debbie,
You went on TV, I think it was Fox, and you mentioned about Superman being a bad role model b/c he fathered a son out of wedlock. This was before the movie was released to the public or within the first week. Granted, it was pretty obvious that the kid was Superman’s early in the movie, but it’s better to not go into the movie knowing that. Stern played a tape of your criticizing the movie and that’s where I heard it.
P.S. Ann Coulter sucks and go Israel!!!
SORRY, IF YOU THINK THAT WAS A SPOILER. I DIDN’T. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLOT AND WAS QUITE OBVIOUS. LET’S SEE: THE KID IS A 5-YEAR-OLD AND FIVE YEARS AGO, BOTH SUPERMAN AND CLARK KENT LEFT TOWN. HMMM . . . . I HOPE I DIDN’T SPOIL IT FOR ANYONE WHEN I ALSO REVEALED THAT CLARK KENT IS SUPERMAN. I WILL BE MORE CAREFUL REGARDING WHAT CONSTITUTES A SPOILER IN THE FUTURE. I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON ISRAEL, THOUGH: GO ISRAEL!!!
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Cousnits on July 21, 2006 at 10:29 am

Cousnits
If your so concerned that Debbie is going to reveal a spoiler and ruin a movie for you, then don’t read the review.
I cannot believe you are actually wasting your time and everyone else’s to whine about this.
Grow up!

ScottyDog on July 21, 2006 at 10:37 am

Oh Debbie, you silly, silly girl.
Since – from your “review” – you seem to know Kevin Smith’s work, I find your opinion about his latest flick utterly dismissable. I wouldn’t ever go to a Kevin Smith flick with the expectation that it would save Western Civilization, I’d view it in much the same way I’d see most other movies; as an escape from reality.
Further, Mr. Smith doesn’t dislike christians. In fact, he’s Catholic.
You ask where’s PETA when you need them. Who cares? I don’t believe in PETA, Oliver Stone, Al Gore, Michael Moore, democrats, liberals, tree-huggers, gay cowboys or even you. I just believe in me. And I believe I’ll be going to see Clerks II later today. Doesn’t mean I condone flies in food, urine in drinks or beastiality, it just means that I find movies with fart jokes in them funny. I’m sorry that you have no sense of humor; I guess you’re just a closet liberal…they have no sense of humor either (although they have some of the funniest opinions I’ve ever heard as to how the world works).
Finally, that you would side with someone – especially a paid critic – who should know better than to interrupt the movie-going experience by talking (or, as described by the laughable New York Post, “roaring”) during the film shows that people like you really don’t belong in a movie theater.
Ever.
When I go to see a film, I GO TO SEE THE FILM. Not listen to some loudmouth in the audience interrupt my experience with their opinion. I didn’t pay to see them, listen to phone conversations or watch parents have no control over their children. I can see that (and even get exposed boobies from breastfeeding mothers smoking cigarettes) in any mall.
Much like my preferences for Boffo Film Critic Joel Siegel, I would encourage you to keep your opinions (and your spoilers) to yourself. You bring nothing to the conversation.
No self-respecting movie-goer listens to critics, anyway.
Your pal,
Meat.

meat on July 21, 2006 at 10:40 am

Debbie
Meat left off his last name(Head)Your rundown about about a slime Movie like Clerks11 was fine and you did not ruin the plot of Superman because there wasnt one. But I guess you have learned a long time ago anytime you stick up for the smallest amount of decency you become a target for the trash and low bred. Bless you and keep up the good work.Clerks will not be getting my money now.Thank you for the warning

Jack Hamilton on July 21, 2006 at 11:36 am

Debbie, you are exactly right that movies like Clerks II are a part of the decline of our country. The liberals don’t want moral values, which is why they are trying to remove any hint of Christianity from government and schools…it exposes their depravity and hypocrisy. I find it fascinating that these pussy-liberals are angered more by you giving “a spoiler” (figuring you can actually spoil a piece of crap…) than they are by abortion or terrorism. Hollywood makes it’s presence more and more decisive in the decline of America as we know it, and that’s exactly what they want. If their movies aren’t sick (via “humor” or topic), it seems they are lies or propaganda. It is the sick humor along with the pervasive sex in EVERYTHING (come on…TIRE COMMERCIALS?!?) that keeps America firmly in the sights of the Islamo-facists as #1 Target, and I submit that Hollywood and the pussy-liberal left-wingers WANT that. They will surely die by that same muslim sword as any of us, which is also fascinating in and of itself, but they either don’t believe that or ignore it as they DO ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING to further their agenda. All the things that the Islamo-facists hate about the U.S. are perpetuated by the pussy-liberal left. I have to admit, they have done a good job of brainwashing the multitude of lemmings in our country. I used to be one myself, when I was younger and stupid. Then I grew up, and acquired responsibility, and found that it was all a great, big, bunch of lies…which they have gotten a hundred-fold better at perpetuating since I was a pussy-liberal 25 years ago. Oh, and if “Mr Smith” is indeed a Catholic, then I’m glad that I’m not one of those any more either. So, all you pussy-liberals…since you obviously can’t tear apart Debbie Schlussel’s work…because she actually KNOW’S what the hell she’s talking about…go ahead and attack mine. I’m not as smart as she is, so you should have an easier time of it. I even mis-spelled a word so the REALLY stupid ones of you could find something clear and real to rant and rave like banshees about.

Ziggy Spaz on July 21, 2006 at 11:37 am

Most of what Hollywood types promote these days are themes in support of a Sodom and Gomorrah II society, no matter how hard they try to dress their films with high priced marketing firms hiding their true perverted agenda.
Atheism, Beastiality, Homosexuality, anti-Christian, self-indulgent lifestyles that somehow may justify their own behavior by the amount of ticket sales.
However most mature Americans realize that they have been duped 15 minutes after the movie starts. Sorry, No refunds. The Gen X and present teenagers not so sure. Afterall it has become a way of life to satisfy one’s own desires first.
I can appreciate your “WARNING” us and to all who may wish to see a movie whether it be to escape reality (which is sad), have good family time, maybe go on a date or critique it, whatever but when the film harbors depravity it should be exposed especially when our children are the targeted market and the movie trailer made it seem like some stupid-kind of non-sense that you don’t have to think-type of movie in which attracts them.
I doubt that anyone was thinking “hey I want to go see some guy have sex with a horse” or some dude urinate in your drink when they went to see this movie and now they have to live with that thought process. The seed has been planted. Maybe life will start to imitate art? or perversion. They will forever lift their cheeseburger bun to check for flies. What a contribution this movie has made.
For what we see affects our hearts. It may take years to get some of those images (that you described) out of your mind. Do yourself a favor, Debbie and heed my kind warning. All of us need to “Drop Hollywood” and someday, maybe they just might come around to making descent films again and bring us back.
As far as your pal “Meat” he must really like horse movies and that’s OK if they are westerns…DR

...DR on July 21, 2006 at 11:40 am

As to Meat’s comment that Kevin Smith is a Catholic–
Actually, he isn’t. At one time, he possibly was, but if he belongs to any church at all now, it is to some nonsense called the “American Catholic” church or something close to that.
It is not the Roman Catholic church, and bears no resemblance whatsoever to the only Catholic church, which, of course, is the Roman Catholic Church.
As far as I can recall, he only touted this “Catholic” thing when he was trying to promote his awful Dogma (1999). The theology that he based this dreck on was so off-the-wall as to beggar description.
As to people worrying about spoilers on “Superman Returns”–you’re either kidding or simply too stupid to be commenting on this blog.

Red Ryder on July 21, 2006 at 1:22 pm

Wow. I thought that lemmings were only members of the democrat and liberal wing. But as the posts directed at me clearly show, there are lemmings who are willing to be told what to do and how to think and they’re even WILLING TO THANK PEOPLE for doing it.
What a bunch of idiots.
Maybe people like Jack Hamilton truly cannot think for themselves. Maybe Ziggy Spaz really is godless.
Maybe DR really does think that the R rating for Clerks II (for “pervasive sexual and crude content including aberrant sexuality, strong language, some drug material”) means that DR can take all the kids he want to the flick. I’m sure he’ll be great fun for Michael Jackson to pal around with in Hell.
It’s a MOVIE, ya pack of yahoos. Quit inbreeding and homeschooling and learn that it’s okay to indulge in a little escapism – beyond your banjo-pluckin’ and sister-marryin’ farmhouse fence.
As a Catholic, I realize that it takes all kinds. As a conservative, I recognize that there are some kinds we can do without.
Your pal,
Meat.

meat on July 21, 2006 at 1:39 pm

Hey meathead,
You are the exact example that Debbie is talking about. Escapism? Call it what you like but it is still perversion as described even in your Catholic Bible. A book you obviously do not read except for maybe the parts you enjoy when you feel like escaping from Heaven’s reality. BTW, how do you explain your sins of lust to the priest in confession? Being such a good conservative Catholic that you are, I’m sure you wash your soul clean after every “Escapism Vacation”.
In society it is called “Immaturity” not “Escapism”. In the Bible it is called the sin of “Whore Mongering”. For which “Whore Mongers Shall have no place in Heaven”. Jesus said it, do you beleive it? Reality? Read the Bible and save yourself and any of those in the future who may believe you are right in your self endulgence.

Deep Throat on July 21, 2006 at 3:26 pm

Hey Meathead,
You are the exact example that Debbie is talking about. Escapism? Call it what you like but it is still perversion as described even in your Catholic Bible. A book you obviously do not read except for maybe the parts you enjoy when you feel like escaping from Heaven’s reality. BTW, how do you explain your sins of lust to the priest in confession? Being such a good conservative Catholic that you are, I’m sure you wash your soul clean after every “Escapism Vacation”.
In society it is called “Immaturity” not “Escapism”. In the Bible it is called the sin of “Whore Mongering”. For which “Whore Mongers Shall have no place in Heaven”. Jesus said it, do you beleive it? Reality? Read the Bible and save yourself and any of those in the future who may believe you are right in your self endulgence.

Deep Throat on July 21, 2006 at 3:27 pm

So, Meat, you think that we are just a bunch of lemmings. Wow! Try understanding us before you go off on one of your rants. Try actually arguing FOR your point of view instead of calling us a bunch of inbred retards. It shows that you cannot think.
Furthermore, do not call yourself a conservative. We are conservatives. Conservatives deal in facts and a moral standard that is from G-d and the Bible. You clearly do not have any conservative sensitivities. If performing oral sex on an donkey is your cup of tea, then we will apply G-d’s standard when we say that you are sick. You call us retards. You cannot show that our ideas are stupid. You cannot even mount an intelligent opposing view to Debbie’s review.
Don’t call yourself a Catholic. Anyone can enter a Catholic Church. A Catholic actually believes that oral sex with a donkey or urinating in food is both harmful and immoral. It also makes moral people sick to see these kinds of behaviors. They definitely don’t find them “escapist” entertainment. Only sick persons and persons who do not care for others would find these acts entertaining. Catholics have a higher morality.
Kevin Smith may have been a Catholic–once. If he makes fun of Christians, he isn’t one, not even a Catholic. He is just the run-of-the-mill pagan….as are you.

Loser on July 21, 2006 at 10:52 pm

Thanks, Debbie.
I know now not to watch Clerks II or any other Kevin Smith film. I like knowing what’s in the films before I DECIDE whether or not to see them. (Get my point, Meat.)

Loser on July 21, 2006 at 10:54 pm

LOL. Debbie thanks for the review. Now that I know you don’t like it it’s pretty much a safe bet that it’ll be a good movie.
What’s with the caps lock anyway? Don’t Republicans know about the shift key?
IS YOUR SURNAME “RIEFENSTAHL”?
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Leni on July 22, 2006 at 5:00 pm

If this type of corrupt degeneracy goes unpunished in our country then will G-d have to appologize to Sodom and Gomorrah for punishing them?
I’m very glad Debbie to see your remarks to “George in San Diego” above about the Stern show. You should know, in case you don’t already, that there are transcripts available on the web listing everything Stern has said to you and others, every sick question he has asked you and others along with your replies etc. I doubt you would want anyone posting that filth here. I only say this because of how highly I think of you. And yes, I will admit, that people who talk to women that way make me sick. I just don’t see the humor in sexually humiliating someone for nothing more than sport. Others do obviously.

Eric on July 22, 2006 at 5:03 pm

CAPSLOCKHEXE SCHREIBT:
IS YOUR SURNAME “RIEFENSTAHL”?
….
NEIN. UND IHRE FILMBESPRECHUNG WAR DUMM UND UNFAEHIG WIE DEISE RUECKEHR.
VIELLEICHT IRGENDEINMAL, WERDEN SIE ETWAS WERTVOLL SAGEN. BIS DAHIN DENKE ICH, DASS SIE DEN GROSSBUCHSTABEN BRAUCHEN.
I’M ALSO JEWISH. AND COINCIDENTALLY OF GERMAN DESCENT. I DON’T THINK NAZI JOKES ARE PARTICULARILY FUNNY. IN FACT, I’D HAVE TO SAY THE DONKY SCENE IN CLERKS HAS MORE TASTE AND CLASS THAN YOU JUST EXHIBITED WITH THAT REMARK.

Leni on July 22, 2006 at 7:42 pm

All the angriest, most humorless Jews claim to be German. Coincidence?

shleppy on July 22, 2006 at 9:23 pm

You’ve just confirmed why I no longer go to the movies. I can go the rest of my life without such images! I hate to think of what our world will be like when the kids who think this is “entertainment” grow up…or…more to the point, will they ever grow up????

JASCC on July 22, 2006 at 9:37 pm

Schleppy wrote:
All the angriest, most humorless Jews claim to be German. Coincidence?

What do you mean “humorless”? Miss Debbie’s a riot. She’s not as funny as Ann Coulter trying to sound all science-y, but she’s giving even that dried up old boozehound hag a run for her money.
You know what’s not funny? Calling people nazi’s. It’s about the lamest, most overused and childish insult since “gay”. Think about it: She types in caps and thinks calling people Nazis is funny. And yet, I’ll bet at least a few of you still think she has sound advice to offer on comedy. Pathetic.
Not to mention that review is a paragon of humorlessness. Calling a comedy evidence of the downfall of civilization? Oh please. It’s not only humorless, it’s patently absurd. The fact is, our civilization is far better than it ever has been. Maybe Debbie yearns for the good old days of the Inquisition, or the era of stoning adulterers, or perhaps slavery, but pretty much the rest of us look back at those times with shame and horror. Not that we don’t hav our problems. Debbie, for example. But still, tit for tat I think we’re faring pretty well.
Anyway. Try not to get too worked up over comedies, Debbie. The world is a-changing. You might as well just get used to it. Before long my people in Hollywood will have a donkey sex scene in every film. Even children’s films. And they’ll be gay donkeys. OK- Gay nazi donkeys, I guess we can throw you a bone. I’ve already sent the memo.

Leni on July 23, 2006 at 3:34 am

Stimmen Sie mit Ihrem Filmbericht uberein. Sie sind in jeder Weise korrekt. Leni ist eine argerliche Plage. Horen Sie nicht auf ihn. Gelachter mu?†nicht lewd sein.

Eric on July 23, 2006 at 7:53 am

Are any snuff films planned for this year? I hear there is a growing audience for those.

Eric on July 23, 2006 at 9:59 am

Eric, calling me an angry pest doesn’t change the fact that Debbie’s hysterics over this movie are absurd and childish.
Anyway, there are worse things to be than angry. Such as: so mired in your own ridiculous moral swamp that you think raunchy donkey sex jokes and potty humor are comparable to snuff films.
Or being stupid enough to wonder aloud why German Jews might not find being called Nazis funny. Or being unable to consider why saying such a thing might actually be more tasteless and offensively idiotic than donkey sex jokes.
I could have it worse… after all, I could be you.

Leni on July 24, 2006 at 12:13 am

This article is garbage. Tight asses of every generation have always claimed something as their own personal harbinger of a doomed culture; usually on a weekly basis. It’s old. It’s such a tired and weightless accusation. I do feel the same way she did in one respect: I will never have the 4-minutes it took to read this tantrum back. It’s also ironic to decry a film as artless when this piece reads like a middle school paper article by a cranky 8th grader. “You’re a loser; What’s funny about drug dealers, this or that?”. Kevin Smith should have studied the book on the standard situations that are always funny.
The solution for her was simple: don’t see the movie. The commercials and pre-release publicity let moviegoers know exactly what they were in for. The only reason this whiner went and stayed was so she could pout and wag her finger. Next time, stay home; Or go to the video store and rent “The Passion of the Christ” for the 38th time. It’s in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy section.

Daedalus19 on July 24, 2006 at 1:26 pm

Ahhh, Debbie. This crap excuse for entertainment was made popular by the same bunch of liberal hypocrites that made Paris Hilton famous today. Lets face it folks; Generation Sleaze is where its at. Get a tatt, get pierced, take steroids, Sex sells, and being more obnoxious and stupid is hip! Proof of this?? Just go to any of the “trash dotcoms” and look at one of a number of home vids of stupid sub-humans lighting bottle rockets from their azz’s.
Funny thing is that all that those whom disagree with this, have that right. Thier idiots; but idiots have rights.

Chicagoguy on July 24, 2006 at 8:31 pm

Leni Riefenstahl? Her films were breakthroughs for their era in terms of technical skill and cinematographic realization, But when you look deeper, the content doesn’t really hold you. You can have the skills to make a film but let’s face it, it doesn’t make one an artist. Kevin Smith? He may have it with the camera but “Clerks II” doesn’t exactly wow the critic. You know what I mean.
On the matter of German Jews being angry and humorless, I don’t see what that has to with the discussion of the film Debbie reviewed.
Ich gelinge, der Sohn einer deutschen Mutter und eines j?ºdischen Vaters zu sein. So sch?§tze ich die Ironie der Familiengenealogie. Es wirft viel tiefere Fragen auf als kann im kompletten ouevre von Kevin Smith gefunden werden. So haben Sie daran!

NormanF on July 25, 2006 at 3:59 am

well, well, well. once again, a right-wing prude with a chip on her shoulder finds something disgusting and, lo and behold, the world is gonna end. debbie, get a life. why is it that all you right wing bible-thumpers, who SO love jesus and GOD and everything christian, yet are always so spooked about something ending civilization “as we know it”? you talk about a “more moral time” in america, but when was that? back when black people had to sit on the back of buses and were hung for whistling at white women? or when women had those nasty abortions in the back alley of some clinic and bled to death on the way home? or when thw white man ran everything, and if you wern’t white and male you bascially sat down and shut up and took it? so clerks II wasn’t your cup of tea. wow! what ever happened to just leaving, getting your money back, and going to rent “the passion” for an 8th time? you conservatives kill me. you whine about what’s on tv, yet your fingers MUST be broke because you never turn the channel. you scream about the music (unless it’s that gun-toting, non-fighting jackass toby keith, who puts boots in asses but NEVER puts on a uniform to fight in the military), but a bunch of OTHER repubs own the labels pushing the “filth”. fox put out “who wants to marry a multimillionare”, but does that come up on your rants about liberals shoving “alternate lifestyles” down your throat? uh, no, because that would make you a hypocrit. debbie, here’s a thought (and i know it is impossible for you right wingers to have one on your own, so a liberal is here to help): the movie is called clerks II. rent clerks and watch it. if it isn’t your cup of tea, then DON’T GO SEE THE NEXT ONE! simple. same with anything else our “liberal” asses come out with. a movie is a movie, not a disertation on how the “moral” decline of civilization can be traced to the emmitt till murder. there is NO liberal bias in the news, it is you not liking the news as it is. there is NO liberal bias in hollywood, there is movies being made on the cheap and people not wanting to take risks. you, and your sheltered kind, can keep believing that democrats and liberals hate america and everything you stand for, if that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy at night. i, being not only an army soldier, but a free thinking liberal (and yes, i said it)as well as a christian, know the difference between something that attacks my beliefs as a whole, and a dumb movie. and clerks II is a dumb movie. ger your head out of your…well, you know what i mean.

TheBishop4 on July 28, 2006 at 12:15 pm

To: TheBishop4
I have a comment for you that I’ll post later today. Since this is my first time to post a comment, I want to test the system before I put a long letter in. Thanks. Greg P.

GregP on August 3, 2006 at 1:08 am

TO: TheBishop4
Sorry I’m running late on my comment. Two of them have not gone through. I don’t know if I’m being ‘timed out’, or what exactly is happening. It takes me quite a while to write, because I am a one-finger typist. I’ll try to send this one through as a test.
Maybe I’ll just have to keep it short.
Thanks. Greg P.

Greg P. on August 7, 2006 at 11:16 pm

To: TheBishop4
Well, that worked. I guess I’ll just have to keep it short. I do want to keep my word and get something out to you.
It strikes me that there is something much more serious and important here than ‘Liberal vs.Conservative’, as fun as that may be to debate.
Namely, that you attack christians while claiming to be a christian.
In Matthew 7:15-23 The Lord Jesus talks about how to observe or ‘spot’ a person who is a false prophet by their ‘fruit’. Conversly, this also works to spot a good person by their fruit, (or actions/words).
It is scary that The Lord Jesus in these verses says that on the day of judgement, many people will come to Him and address Him as ‘ Lord,Lord’, and He will say , ‘I never knew you: Depart from me, ye that work iniquity'(Sin or evil).
There is much food for thought here. nobody wants to be found in that position.
Galatians 5:22-23 talks about fruit as well.(The fruit of the Spirit of God).
That it is love,joy,peace,gentleness,goodness,and faith,among other things.
These should be found in some degree in the life of every true believer in Christ.
Concerning T.V., It is not enough to simply ‘change channels’ or not watch shows that offend you.
The problem is vulgar commercials too. Who can know or control the next commercial that will appear? It may be a lingerie ad or a Victoria’s Secret ad. Our 13 year old son doesn’t need to see that. Time enough for those problems later. I don’t need it either.
Our 15 year old daughter doesn’t need to see it, and get wrong and twisted messages about what it means to be feminine,and a young lady with ‘class’,( which she already possesses.)
We solved that problem in our home by UNPLUGGING the T.V. antenna/cable. Our T.V. recieves no outside signal or broadcast. It is simply a ‘monitor’ that we watch movies on that we have already pre-screened and like.
You mentioned that you are a soldier. May God bless you especially in that aspect of your life.
Thanks, Greg P.

Greg P. on August 8, 2006 at 12:02 am

to GregP
first off, you misunderstand my comments. i am not attacking christians. like i have said before, i myself am a christian. what i do dislike about what passes for christian values in this day and time is the blatant disregard for what Jesus stood for. Jesus loved all, not just christians. nowadays, the phrase “GOD hates…” has replaced “Jesus loves…” as the do-all for most. yes, there’s very questionable things going on in this world, but it has been this way for centuries, and people have found a way to both persevere and raise decent people. also, while it seems that most americans are turned off by sex and any by-product of such, violence is A-OK? we have no problem with the current governer of the largest state in the union blowing people away by the boatloads on film (even though a rapper doing the same thing is considered a public menace), but the natural act of sex is something we have to stamp out? morality is not exclusive to the republican party, nor is it exclusive to straight people, white people, or people that believe like you. the things i said about clerks II are true, whether you’ve seen the movie or not. you can’t decry the foul things on the film, then go vote for the friends of the filmakers. it is a known fact that, with the exception of a few, alot of the big studio owners give money to the ACLU and the republican party. i have children, and i pray every day that they stay on the best path, one without drugs or drinking or pre-marital sex. but, if they did indulge in these things, i’m still gonna love them. same as if i had a gay child, or one that had an abortion. so i do MY part by watching what they watch, and talking to them about it. some parents don’t do that, then when the time comes for them to get offended, they will vote for the first politician that “speaks” to their particular pet peeve. debbie is the sort of political hack that gets the masses riled up about something most of them would never get involved in in the first place, yet to let her tell it she’s only helping. please. if she wanted to help, she’d tell parents to Be parents and stop trying to be their children’s friends. start taking some of those overpriced “toys” from them. start asking the hard ?s and not accepting a BS answer. stop listening to the guy in the suit, or the loudmouth with the “liberals hate…” book coming out. if you’re truly outraged, then step your game up. BE A PARENT! only lemmings follow, not a grown person. your tv, the radio, and the movie house are NOT a temporary babysitter. and senator so-and-so, who’s running for re-election and wants to be president, is never going to abolish abortion, ban gay marriage with a constitutional ammendment, and all the coulters, savages, hannitys, and limbaughs are NOT going to change your responsibility to your kids. think for yourself. that is my point. may GOD bless you, greg.

TheBishop4 on August 10, 2006 at 1:43 am

To: TheBishop4
Thanks for your reply. You have some very good points there, many of which I also believe and practice. Side-note: It takes me quite a while to
check up on these articles and comments and reply, so, sorry for the delayed reply here.
you are right about politicians. I have learned to
watch & go by what they DO & vote into law, not by what they say or claim to be.
Guys, we are in big trouble. As I’ve noted before, Our Govt. is not going to
”Do it right” concerning ANY aspect of this supposed ‘War on Terror’, war on Islamic fascism etc.
If you think the situation is grave based on what you now know, just check out Hal Lindsey’s info.
He has a TV show on Daystar TV, which is called the ‘International Intelligence Briefing’. He has a
Web-site, http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/ ( HALLINDSEYORACLE.COM). His site has much good info, but to me,
it is rather confusing to navigate, if you want to track down and hear a particular TV rebroadcast.
Daystar Tv’s site might be more helpful in that regard.
Recently, he detailed a 3-way treaty between Russia, Syria, and Iran whereby Russia would build and
man a missile station in Iran which would be capable or striking Israel ANYWHERE within it’s borders. The
‘Primary’ use of the missile station would supposedly be to protect a huge new Russian Naval base which will
be built, which will finally enable the Russians to have a ‘warm-water port’ available to them.
They have wanted this for 100 years. I checked a map of the world , and Iran does indeed have direct access
to the Indian Ocean.
I’m glad that my faith rests in the Lord Jesus Christ, not our Govt. The Muslims
can only do what The Lord permits them to do. This gives me a great deal of comfort. But,God also uses
people to carry out His will, as when the Crusaders took up their swords and physically stopped the
Muslims/Moors in the much-maligned and misunderstod Crusades. ( Lied about etc. for the past 50 years, at least,
in the Mainstream Media.)
I’ve read the final chapter of the Book (Bible), and I notice that we do not get destroyed by Muslims,
or die of pollution, or starve to death due to over-crowding or overpopulation. This too, is comforting to me.
( Am I giving too much away here? )
One thing I find to be strange as I read people’s comments , is the practice of leaving the ‘O’ out of
‘God’, as…’G-d ‘ . Are people having trouble getting the name ‘God’ past their internet firewalls or screens?
Thank you for your time and consideration of my thoughts, folks.
Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Guys, we are in big trouble. As I’ve noted before, Our Govt. is not going to
”Do it right” concerning ANY aspect of this supposed ‘War on Terror’, war on Islamic fascism etc.
If you think the situation is grave based on what you now know, just check out Hal Lindsey’s info.
He has a TV show on Daystar TV, which is called the ‘International Intelligence Briefing’.
Daystar Tv’s site might be more helpful in that regard.
Recently, he detailed a 3-way treaty between Russia, Syria, and Iran whereby Russia would build and
man a missile station in Iran which would be capable or striking Israel ANYWHERE within it’s borders. The
‘Primary’ use of the missile station would supposedly be to protect a huge new Russian Naval base which will
be built, which will finally enable the Russians to have a ‘warm-water port’ available to them.
They have wanted this for 100 years. I checked a map of the world , and Iran does indeed have direct access
to the Indian Ocean.
I’m glad that my faith rests in the Lord Jesus Christ, not our Govt. The Muslims
can only do what The Lord permits them to do. This gives me a great deal of comfort. But,God also uses
people to carry out His will, as when the Crusaders took up their swords and physically stopped the
Muslims/Moors in the much-maligned and misunderstod Crusades. ( Lied about etc. for the past 50 years, at least,
in the Mainstream Media.)
I’ve read the final chapter of the Book (Bible), and I notice that we do not get destroyed by Muslims,
or die of pollution, or starve to death due to over-crowding or overpopulation. This too, is comforting to me.
( Am I giving too much away here? )
One thing I find to be strange as I read people’s comments , is the practice of leaving the ‘O’ out of
‘God’, as…’G-d ‘ . Are people having trouble getting the name ‘God’ past their internet firewalls or screens?
Thank you for your time and consideration of my thoughts, folks.
Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Guys, we are in big trouble. As I’ve noted before, Our Govt. is not going to
”Do it right” concerning ANY aspect of this supposed ‘War on Terror’, war on Islamic fascism etc.
If you think the situation is grave based on what you now know, just check out Hal Lindsey’s info.
He has a TV show on Daystar TV, which is called the ‘International Intelligence Briefing’. He has a
Web-site, http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/ ( HALLINDSEYORACLE.COM). His site has much good info, but to me,
it is rather confusing to navigate, if you want to track down and hear a particular TV rebroadcast.
Daystar Tv’s site might be more helpful in that regard.
Recently, he detailed a 3-way treaty between Russia, Syria, and Iran whereby Russia would build and
man a missile station in Iran which would be capable or striking Israel ANYWHERE within it’s borders. The
‘Primary’ use of the missile station would supposedly be to protect a huge new Russian Naval base which will
be built, which will finally enable the Russians to have a ‘warm-water port’ available to them.
They have wanted this for 100 years. I checked a map of the world , and Iran does indeed have direct access
to the Indian Ocean.
I’m glad that my faith rests in the Lord Jesus Christ, not our Govt. The Muslims
can only do what The Lord permits them to do. This gives me a great deal of comfort. But,God also uses
people to carry out His will, as when the Crusaders took up their swords and physically stopped the
Muslims/Moors in the much-maligned and misunderstod Crusades. ( Lied about etc. for the past 50 years, at least,
in the Mainstream Media.)
I’ve read the final chapter of the Book (Bible), and I notice that we do not get destroyed by Muslims,
or die of pollution, or starve to death due to over-crowding or overpopulation. This too, is comforting to me.
( Am I giving too much away here? )
One thing I find to be strange as I read people’s comments , is the practice of leaving the ‘O’ out of
‘God’, as…’G-d ‘ . Are people having trouble getting the name ‘God’ past their internet firewalls or screens?
Thank you for your time and consideration of my thoughts, folks.
Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Guys, we are in big trouble. As I’ve noted before, Our Govt. is not going to
”Do it right” concerning ANY aspect of this supposed ‘War on Terror’, war on Islamic fascism etc.
If you think the situation is grave based on what you now know, just check out Hal Lindsey’s info.
He has a TV show on Daystar TV, which is called the ‘International Intelligence Briefing’. He has a
Web-site, http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/ ( HALLINDSEYORACLE.COM). His site has much good info, but to me,
it is rather confusing to navigate, if you want to track down and hear a particular TV rebroadcast.
Daystar Tv’s site might be more helpful in that regard.
Recently, he detailed a 3-way treaty between Russia, Syria, and Iran whereby Russia would build and
man a missile station in Iran which would be capable or striking Israel ANYWHERE within it’s borders. The
‘Primary’ use of the missile station would supposedly be to protect a huge new Russian Naval base which will
be built, which will finally enable the Russians to have a ‘warm-water port’ available to them.
They have wanted this for 100 years. I checked a map of the world , and Iran does indeed have direct access
to the Indian Ocean.
I’m glad that my faith rests in the Lord Jesus Christ, not our Govt. The Muslims
can only do what The Lord permits them to do. This gives me a great deal of comfort. But,God also uses
people to carry out His will, as when the Crusaders took up their swords and physically stopped the
Muslims/Moors in the much-maligned and misunderstod Crusades. ( Lied about etc. for the past 50 years, at least,
in the Mainstream Media.)
I’ve read the final chapter of the Book (Bible), and I notice that we do not get destroyed by Muslims,
or die of pollution, or starve to death due to over-crowding or overpopulation. This too, is comforting to me.
( Am I giving too much away here? )
One thing I find to be strange as I read people’s comments , is the practice of leaving the ‘O’ out of
‘God’, as…’G-d ‘ . Are people having trouble getting the name ‘God’ past their internet firewalls or screens?
Thank you for your time and consideration of my thoughts, folks.
Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Guys, we are in big trouble. As I’ve noted before, Our Govt. is not going to
”Do it right” concerning ANY aspect of this supposed ‘War on Terror’, war on Islamic fascism etc.
If you think the situation is grave based on what you now know, just check out Hal Lindsey’s info.
He has a TV show on Daystar TV, which is called the ‘International Intelligence Briefing’. He has a
Web-site, http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/ ( HALLINDSEYORACLE.COM). His site has much good info, but to me,
it is rather confusing to navigate, if you want to track down and hear a particular TV rebroadcast.
Daystar Tv’s site might be more helpful in that regard.
Recently, he detailed a 3-way treaty between Russia, Syria, and Iran whereby Russia would build and
man a missile station in Iran which would be capable or striking Israel ANYWHERE within it’s borders. The
‘Primary’ use of the missile station would supposedly be to protect a huge new Russian Naval base which will
be built, which will finally enable the Russians to have a ‘warm-water port’ available to them.
They have wanted this for 100 years. I checked a map of the world , and Iran does indeed have direct access
to the Indian Ocean.
I’m glad that my faith rests in the Lord Jesus Christ, not our Govt. The Muslims
can only do what The Lord permits them to do. This gives me a great deal of comfort. But,God also uses
people to carry out His will, as when the Crusaders took up their swords and physically stopped the
Muslims/Moors in the much-maligned and misunderstod Crusades. ( Lied about etc. for the past 50 years, at least,
in the Mainstream Media.)
I’ve read the final chapter of the Book (Bible), and I notice that we do not get destroyed by Muslims,
or die of pollution, or starve to death due to over-crowding or overpopulation. This too, is comforting to me.
( Am I giving too much away here? )
One thing I find to be strange as I read people’s comments , is the practice of leaving the ‘O’ out of
‘God’, as…’G-d ‘ . Are people having trouble getting the name ‘God’ past their internet firewalls or screens?
Thank you for your time and consideration of my thoughts, folks.
Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Greg P. 8-20-06 5:36 AM Guys, we are in big trouble. As I’ve noted before, Our Govt. is not going to
”Do it right” concerning ANY aspect of this supposed ‘War on Terror’, war on Islamic fascism etc.
If you think the situation is grave based on what you now know, just check out Hal Lindsey’s info.
He has a TV show on Daystar TV, which is called the ‘International Intelligence Briefing’. He has a
Web-site, http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/ ( HALLINDSEYORACLE.COM). His site has much good info, but to me,
it is rather confusing to navigate, if you want to track down and hear a particular TV rebroadcast.
Daystar Tv’s site might be more helpful in that regard.
Recently, he detailed a 3-way treaty between Russia, Syria, and Iran whereby Russia would build and
man a missile station in Iran which would be capable or striking Israel ANYWHERE within it’s borders. The
‘Primary’ use of the missile station would supposedly be to protect a huge new Russian Naval base which will
be built, which will finally enable the Russians to have a ‘warm-water port’ available to them.
They have wanted this for 100 years. I checked a map of the world , and Iran does indeed have direct access
to the Indian Ocean.
I’m glad that my faith rests in the Lord Jesus Christ, not our Govt. The Muslims
can only do what The Lord permits them to do. This gives me a great deal of comfort. But,God also uses
people to carry out His will, as when the Crusaders took up their swords and physically stopped the
Muslims/Moors in the much-maligned and misunderstod Crusades. ( Lied about etc. for the past 50 years, at least,
in the Mainstream Media.)
Thanks for your consideration. Greg p

Greg P. on August 21, 2006 at 11:24 am

    Because it’s a sin for the Orthodox to refer to The Almighty directly.

    Eben on February 10, 2013 at 11:21 pm

To: Everyone.
I am new to this system. I was trying to ‘save’ my comments to a file. Apparently I transposed an article on top of my reply to TheBishop4, then posted it several times in a row.
I’m very sorry. This has turned a very important comment on pornography, and more importantly, how to defeat it utterly in one’s own life, into gibberish.
My comment on the Muslim situation is already addressed on another article, where it is in proper context with what is being discussed there.
Obviously Satan does not want me to get the pornograpy information out. So, I will try again
at some point.
My most sincere appologies folks.
Greg P.

Greg P. on August 25, 2006 at 11:46 am

WTF is everyone on on this site? Clerks 2 is a MOVIE! just because beastiality happens in a movie does not mean the actor is really doing it, think about it like he is pretending (educated people like me call it acting). I’ll let you in on a few secrets only few people know about… Jason Vorhees doesn’t really exist, Rudolph’s nose doesn’t shine bright red and the actors don’t really die in horror movies. Now stop being a weightist, racist, prejudice in general ass and STFU. BTW the US is multicultural now, you have a lot of different religions in your country, you can’t exclusively cater to one of them, that’s racism. all religions should be tolerated instead of just controlling everyone with Christianity.

Danny on December 12, 2012 at 11:42 am

    No, it’s religious intolerance, not racism. Race and religion are not the same. The problem with dreck like that movie is that these things are seen all over the world presenting a false image of us, much like the exportation of the Jerry Springer show. Not everyone understands that these things are fake.

    Eben on February 10, 2013 at 11:19 pm

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