May 19, 2010, - 11:16 am

But When Israel Does It . . .: HAMAS Razes Palestinians’ Homes – Your Day in “Palestinian” “Statehood”

By Debbie Schlussel

When Israel dismantled a few Palestinians’ “homes” on the border of Gaza to stop terrorist attacks on its citizens, the world was outraged.  But the Israelis had a legitimate reason:  the houses were used as cover for tunnels from Rafah, the Gaza town on the border with Egypt, through which weapons, homicide bombs, and actual Islamic terrorists themselves, were being smuggled for upcoming attacks against innocent civilians.  And the Islamic world used this as a PR ploy with all the phony “outrage” that accompanies it, with each of the oil-rich gulf sheiks giving a few thousand dollars to rebuild the houses and the US taxpayer-funded UN agency UNRWA paying the bulk of the rebuilding costs for these terrorism shelters.


HAMASnik Nidal Eid & The Rubble of His HAMAS-Destroyed Home

Now, though, HAMAS is tearing down actual Palestinian homes in Gaza.  Homes where Palestinian families who support HAMAS–or used to, until now–live.  And HAMAS has no legitimate reason to seize the homes, just like I told you the group has been doing with Palestinian condominiums all over Gaza, even seizing an apartment from a woman when she was away caring for her cancer-stricken father-in-law.  It just wants the land, so it is kicking families out and razing their homes.  Yup–shocker!–HAMAS is a statist terrorist group government that literally terrorizes its own citizens.  Can’t say they don’t deserve it.  It’s kinda poetic justice.  The lack of world outrage, though, is noticeable.  When an Israeli tears down homes used to shelter terrorists, he’s a “Nazi.”  But when HAMAS terrorists tear down an actual family dwelling–actually 40 of them with many more slated for seizure and destruction–crickets chirping.

RAFAH, Gaza Strip — Hamas police wielding clubs beat and pushed residents out of dozens of homes in the southern Gaza town of Rafah on Sunday before knocking the buildings down with bulldozers, residents said.

Gaza’s militant Hamas rulers said the homes were built illegally on government land. Newly homeless residents were furious over Palestinians on bulldozers razing Palestinian homes.

For years, Palestinians have criticized Israel for destroying houses. . . .  Now, Rafah residents complained, their own government, run by the Islamic militant Hamas that seized power in Gaza in July 2007, has done the same.

“They promised reform and change — instead they’ve destroyed our homes,” shouted Miasar Gan, a 54-year-old woman. Gan said she and her husband had nowhere else to go.

“I found my mattress, and that’s where I’ll be sitting,” she said, standing next to the concrete chunks — all that was left of her house.

Her neighbor, Nazira Abu Jara, 56, said policewomen wearing face veils typical of conservative Muslim women beat her with clubs until she fled her house with her husband and two children. “Neighbors help us get by with charity. We can’t afford to build again,” Abu Jara said.

Others picked through rubble to retrieve dusty clothing and mangled furniture.

Residents said between 30 and 40 homes were torn down, ranging from concrete structures to tin shacks. They did not know how many people were affected. Hamas officials did not allow reporters into the area until the demolition was over.

Residents said more demolitions in the area were expected Monday.


Nidal Eid was praised by Hamas officials as an example of anti-Zionist resistance when he managed to build a house here [Rafah, Gaza] last year. . . . But earlier this week, his house was the first to be demolished by the Hamas government, which said it had been illegally built on public land.

Bulldozers, accompanied by Hamas forces and police officers who beat residents with sticks, razed at least 25 houses, including some concrete structures here in Rafah, the southernmost city of Gaza.

“A bulldozer placed its shovel on the house and the policemen said we have 10 minutes to leave the home,” said Mr. Eid, 30, a father of nine, the youngest of whom was 15 days old when the house was destroyed. . . .

People could be seen sitting on the debris of their houses or in tents, some women burying their faces in their hands. Crowds gathered to offer comfort to relatives or just to witness the demolitions. . . .

The idea that Hamas is now destroying some of those few homes has shocked people here.


Need Your House Dismantled?: Ask HAMAS “Remodeling,” Inc.

Mimi al-Huwari, 60, is an Egyptian who lived for two years in “a room, kitchen and a toilet built with the help of the good doers” after her Palestinian husband divorced her. Now that her house has been destroyed, she said, “my family is in Egypt, and I don’t have anybody here. I have a son whose one-room home is barely enough for his six-children family.”

So far, Hamas officials are not backing down.

Even more:

The land has been owned by their families since the 1940s.

Issa Al-Sdodi, an employee of the previous Fatah-led administration, said Hamas policemen accompanied by bulldozers knocked down his three-storey house without advance notice.

“I put my savings into building it and now my family of 10 is homeless.” . . .

Hmmm . . . so the land and house has been in his family and intact the entire time that Israeli controlled Gaza. Very interesting. And yet, just after a few years of Palestinian control, HAMAS destroys it. Nice contrast.

Fatheya al-Ghezawi, 52, sat in the sand with her daughter near the rubble of her home, which had housed her family of 15.

She said she fled Gaza city last year . . . . “This time, it wasn’t the Jews. It is Islam against Islam,” Ghezawi said.

PUH-LEEZE. It’s always Islam against Islam. So sad, too bad. This was soooo predictable. They are impossible to get along with and can’t even make peace with each other. This isn’t even Sunni v. Shi’ite. It’s within HAMAS. Hilarious. And yet, so same ‘ol, same ‘ol.

HAMAS versus HAMAS supporters who put the group in power. Not sure for whom to root, but I know it’s a feud I wish could last forever and that both sides would lose.

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Ridiculous article. Clearly written by a Zionist so twisted and insecure that she has to redirect Israeli blame towards the Palestinians. This is the kind of venemous rhetoric that I’ve come to expect from you people.

You cannot be reasoned with.

Your mere choice of words is stunningly horrific, no different from any other terrorists’ manner of speech and of mentality. It’s not helped by the fact that basically all you’re saying is, “Look! Israel steals land from Palestinians! But so does Hamas!” How can you compare six isolated incidents (from your own commentary!) of Hamas being the oppressor* with thousands upon thousands of different examples of illegal Israeli expansion in both the West Bank and Gaza Strip? Wake up, Debbie!

* By the way, nobody is denying that Hamas is clearly a terrorist organization that should not be in power in the first place. What is WRONG, though, is to be pointing fingers when clearly, the problem originated from Israeli selfishness and power-thirst.

OI on May 19, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    For you, Palestinian misbehavior can always be blamed on the Jews.

    Hilarious! Hamas is driven to do this by alleged decades of Israeli oppression and occupation.

    Its friends like you the Palestinians have that ensures they will never grow up and accept responsibility for their own choices. You are their enablers. And I’m happy to say that thanks to the likes of you, nothing will change over there.

    And that is indeed a blessing in disguise. Many times over.

    NormanF on May 19, 2010 at 1:46 pm

Oh too funny, even when Muslims butcher Muslims it’s still the JOOOO’s fault. Got to love you barbarians. Even if all the Jew’s and Christians were extinguished, you Muslims would still be butchering your own. Stay classy OI, hopefully your home will be next on the list. How’s that Crescent and star working out for ya? AHAHAHA

perception of truth on May 19, 2010 at 1:04 pm

OI –
Way to turn around a story about terrorists hurting their own people and make it the Jews’ fault. Unbelievable that the muslims have so perfected the art of “projection” “denial” and downright “taqqiyah.”

CJ on May 19, 2010 at 1:06 pm

Anyone taking sides in this conflict is narrowminded and silly – and knows it on a certain level.

Harald on May 19, 2010 at 1:10 pm

No debate there, for HAMAS is most certainly an Islamic extremists organization whose actions should be condemned, not only by the world, but also by Palestinians who would eventually like their own homeland. I do not usually agree with you Miss Schlussel, but on this issue I concur completely.
Just another reason to ensure the secular Paletinian Authority does not lose it’s battle for the minds and souls of Palestinians against the terorists of Hamas. Eventually, within the next two years, the PA will declare indedpendence for the West Bank. Within 48 hours every nation on the globe will recognize them (as they should for they will use the exact same UN resolution that brought Isreal into existence). At that time, Palestinians will see their future lies with those who fight their battles with words, ideas, and negotiations, rather than rockets and suicide vests.
Additionally such a move will assist Isreal in their own security, by in an instant removing the rational for existence of most Islamic Terror groups.
So Debbie, although we often disagree, anything you do to bring to light the travesties of Hamas is appreciated by myself, by Palestinians, by Isrealis, and by the world.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 1:14 pm

These depraved sub-humanoids certainly have building destruction down to an art form don’t they! Doesn’t matter if it is the WTC (STOP THE MOSQUES!) or their own peeps’ buildings. Some sad, sick stuff brought about by sad, sick terrorists.

Me in NYC on May 19, 2010 at 1:18 pm

Perhaps they learned a few lessons when all those folks died when the King David Hotel got blown up, or the embassy in Rome, or when Americans were killed on board the U.S.S. Liberty

dan dobbs on May 19, 2010 at 1:25 pm

Me in NYC. Perhaps you are unaware of the goals of Al Queda, namely to instill distrust in the American public, force us to change our laws and lives, and to instill fear. I hate to say it, but in your case, they seem to have been successful.
I see no issue with a Mosque near the WTC site, as I would not have an issue with a German Lutheran Church near the Holocaust Museum. For in both cases, it is not the faith that is to blame, but those would would prevert it to further their cause. And if you begin limiting freedom of religion for “ANY” faith in this land, or within your city, you cede them (Al Queda” victory. And pardon me, but that is a victory I have no wish to give them.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 1:29 pm

I hope they ALWAYS lose. After seeing on here some of the posters who came on last night, I knew again some things will never change.

They hate themselves as much as they hate us and I don’t really give a damn.

Who cares if they get a state? They will never live in peace with each other never mind with the dhimmi Jews.

A lesson the world will never learn.

NormanF on May 19, 2010 at 1:34 pm

I suspect Hamas and Fatah and Hizbullah learned a few things (if not involved) from the 9-11 terrorist attacks which killed over 3,000 Americans, the 2000 attack on the USS Cole in Yemen that killed 19 American soldiers, the bombings of the US embassies in Africa and american establishments in Saudi Arabia in the late 90s in which hundreds were killed, the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 in which several American were killed, the destruction of a commercial airliner over Lockerbie Scotland and the hijacking of the Italian Ship the Achille Lauro in the mid 1980s which several hundred Americans were killed, the bombing of the US Army Barracks in Lebanon in the early 1980s in which over 200 US militray men were killed. There were also bombings of the Israeli embassy and a jewish center in Buenos Aires in the early 90s, the bombings of synagogues in Rome and Paris in the 1980s not to mention the thousands of terrorist attacks in Israel that have killed over a thousand people including many US citizens.

Der Nister on May 19, 2010 at 1:36 pm

NormanF, just because someone perhaps has a different opinon than you does not equte to “dhimmitude”, it equates to someone having a different opinion. And perhaps you should recall the words of our Founders who felt the need to recognize that people will always have different opinions, as well as different faiths. Something you will just have to live with I guess.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    To Islam, we are lower than them. Debbie has no doubt seen the comments from some of the posters on the “maintenance” thread last night. It didn’t sound like people you could talk with intelligently. I had to give them a piece of my mind that’s not the real me.

    It does point up the fact I will never have anything in common with them because we all know very well what they would do given the chance – and I want them to stay the hell away from Debbie, me and every one else!

    NormanF on May 19, 2010 at 1:54 pm


Let’s see, Al-Qaeda = muslims. muslims took down the Twin Towers. Connect the dots.

Also, your analogy of a Protestant church near a Holocaust Museum and the Twin Towers site is way off. Now if they placed statues of Hitler at the front door of the Holocaust museum and built a chapel to praise him, then I could agree with your comparison.

– Somewhere in kenya a village is missing its idiot.

Jarhead on May 19, 2010 at 1:40 pm

Mrs. Schlussel, you are a very ugly woman, in all senses… regards from Germany!

Phillip on May 19, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    hallo phillip! so debbie is an “ugly woman” because hamas is brutalizing its own people in gaza?

    howardroark on May 19, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    You’re just another troll with nothing to say on here.

    Stay classy, Phillip!

    NormanF on May 19, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Jarhead that is correct, but while stationed in England has to live through the bombing by the IRA of Harrods’s, Hyde Park, and the Brighton Hotel. The fact that each of those terrorists were Catholics, does not lead me to condemn all Catholics. Only those that pervert their faith to fit their agenda. And if you allow them to build within you (all of us) a hatred or “All” people of one faith, you grant them victory.
And let us not forget with have many American Muslims (including some in the USMC) as well as allied Muslims fighting on our side. To disparage their service because of what faith the follow is not the “American Way”. As a Marine you should know that. We defend “ALL Americans”, not just the ones who attend our church.

Aim High

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 1:44 pm


    I am very cautiously supportive (supportive is WAY too strong of a word) of muslims in our military, but let’s look at facts. How many muslims has it been now that are serving or served in the U.S. military and have tried to kill or succeeded in killing our troops? Quite a few so far. Now how many Catholics, Protestants and Jews have committed the same treasonous acts?

    You are correct that when I served I encountered ZERO muslims in the Corps, and I consider that a blessing. We never had to worry about muslims trying to kill us within our own ranks, we never had to build mosques or any special accomodations for muslims, we never had to stop during training to wait for the muslims to pray to mecca, and the list goes on and on. Most of the duty stations that I served at had just ONE church that catered to all faiths – Christians and Jews mostly. Also, even though Jews have their dietary Kosher requirements, I never saw any Kosher lines at the chow hall. We all adapted to what the Corps gave us to work with. Nobody I knew of asked for Cathedrals or Synagogues to be built on U.S. military stations. But the Bozo-In-Chief thinks we need to bow and cater to the muslims. Outrageous!!

    – somewhere in kenya a village is missing its idiot

    Jarhead on May 19, 2010 at 2:10 pm

And Jarhead, you comparrison of the German Church near the Holocaust museum is flawed. No way would I put a Nazi site near the Holocaust Museum, because “ALL” Nazi’s were anti-semitic, however not “ALL” Germans were. On the same vein, not “ALL” Muslims are terrorists, particularily those standing alongside your fellow Marines at Bagram, and Baghdad, and Kabul………and so on.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    You’re in denial. To varying degrees they all hate us and want us gone. And once we’re gone, they’ll resuming killing each other. That’s life in the lands of the ROP for centuries.

    Wake the heck up!

    NormanF on May 19, 2010 at 2:00 pm

you can’t make up stories like this… an no embellishment could make them more horrific.

can you imagine it? your own people beating you to get out of your house, and within mintues they’re bulldozing it down… they couldn’t even give you a few hours to get your stuff out? it’s so rotten and evil and cruel… i guess muslims HAVE TO create a jewish boogeyman just to cope with the reality of their very own brothers and sisters.

it’s heartwrenching and boggles the mind.

howardroark on May 19, 2010 at 1:47 pm

NormanF, I tried to approach this topic with as broad a mind as possible. To some degree, I agree with your sentiments about Hamas (in fact, I fully agree). What I’m objecting to is the fact that Debbie points to 6 ISOLATED incidents and tries to cover up all of the faults of Israeli governance.

Have you turned on your TV during the War on Gaza in January of 2009? You probably were too distracted by Obama’s swearing-in to mind the Palestinians. Had you properly seen the events that had occured and put aside the Zionist haze you wear so proudly, you would have seen that the Israelis have violated the Palestinians in the worst form possible and stripped them of their dignity.

But of course, Muslims are the cause of all problems aren’t they? As long as you Jews waltz around Washington lobbying left, right and center, Islamophobia will never be diminished.

Obviously the debate is two-sided: the Hamas is as much to blame as the IDF. What we need to focus on for the future is to not shove the fact that Hamas is a terrorist organization down everyone’s throats for the MILLIONTH time, but to look for a compromise that will convene both sides.

I’m afraid I don’t get what you mean, NormanF, by the statement that you made: “Its friends like you the Palestinians have that ensures they will never grow up and accept responsibility for their own choices.” What do you mean? Am I not allowed to disagree with Ms.Schlussel? It seems that if I do, I will be accused of negatively affecting the situation in the Middle East!

OI on May 19, 2010 at 2:57 pm

Oh, and one other thing @CJ… This isn’t even a “story”, or a news topic even worth pursuing. It’s just a distraction that hard right-wing Jews use to justify expansionism in the Middle East.. no more no less.

OI on May 19, 2010 at 3:00 pm

Thank you, Debbie!

Although you are often the lone voice in the woods, more people are tuning in and spreading the message…Even the enemy voce is a victory for in engaging the jihadi, we expose his murderous agenda.

Keep up the good fight!!

docgary on May 19, 2010 at 3:04 pm

You are a dangerous and stupid mind. You will one day be ashamend of yourself.

mark lucci on May 19, 2010 at 3:08 pm


    mark lucci on May 19, 2010 at 3:10 pm

Debbie, meet Uri Averni, and learn:

Nearly seventy ago, in the course of World War II, a heinous crime was committed in the city of Leningrad. For more than a thousand days, a gang of extremists called “the Red Army” held the millions of the town’s inhabitants hostage and provoked retaliation from the German Wehrmacht from inside the population centers. The Germans had no alternative but to bomb and shell the population and to impose a total blockade, which caused the death of hundreds of thousands.

Some time before that, a similar crime was committed in England. The Churchill gang hid among the population of London, misusing the millions of citizens as a human shield. The Germans were compelled to send their Luftwaffe and reluctantly reduce the city to ruins. They called it the Blitz.

This is the description that would now appear in the history books – if the Germans had won the war.

Absurd? No more than the daily descriptions in our media, which are being repeated ad nauseam: the Hamas terrorists use the inhabitants of Gaza as “hostages” and exploit the women and children as “human shields”, they leave us no alternative but to carry out massive bombardments, in which, to our deep sorrow, thousands of women, children and unarmed men are killed and injured.

Versae on May 19, 2010 at 3:31 pm

jarhead >
“Al-Qaeda = muslims. muslims took down the Twin Towers. Connect the dots”
i think it’s the cells in your sick brain that you need to connect

Versae on May 19, 2010 at 3:42 pm

Another proud member of conservatives united for non truthiness

shiney dick on May 19, 2010 at 3:50 pm

I am out of patience…I’ll admit it. I am (personally) all for Israel with help from a sensible America delivering brutal military force upon the ‘Palestininas’, Hamas, the Hezbos, Musilm Bro-Hoods, al-Qaeda, etc. by unleashing a murderous devastating blow to these groups, leaders and their supportive bystanders.

The West will NEVER gain any points negotiating or by giving these groups gifts, or concessions.

Start the bombing and the shooting. That will more than likely be the only way to cause these groups a change of heart when their own ass is feeling the heat or being bandaged. But if America, the west, and Israel want to keep trading wine & crumpets in exchange for bullets and more dead westerners & Israelis, count me out.

P. Aaron on May 19, 2010 at 5:05 pm

It is an indisputable fact that the people were warned b/c the King David explosion. Jooos don’t kill for ha-ha’s. When you learn to love your children more than you hate the Joooos, it’ll be a miracle.

Tubby on May 19, 2010 at 5:12 pm

Son of Hamas – Musab Hassan Yousef (youtube) tells the world about hamas, islam, muhamad, in English and in Arabic…watch this courageous muslim if you dare…and get back to us…

hill billy on May 19, 2010 at 5:13 pm

ITA P.Aaron. They don’t respect anyone (not even themselves). What they do know is fear. They live their whole lives in it. that’s probably why they actually think it’s ok to strap bombs to themselves and use their babies as human shields since the world after has got to be better for them than what Islam has for them here.

Tubby on May 19, 2010 at 5:14 pm

I guess I’ll go along with a Mosque near the 9/11 site when the Saudis allow a flourishing synagogue to function right next to Mecca.

Little Al on May 19, 2010 at 5:19 pm

As long as you dont recognize the mere fact that, when a muslim starts being moderate, he stops being a muslim, you have no chance to win this war.

There is no possible peace. You win the wa

Jean Breban on May 19, 2010 at 6:04 pm

sorry :

you win the war or you lose your country.

Jean Breban on May 19, 2010 at 6:05 pm

You got it Al! They are totally intolerant and expect everything but nothing for anyone else.

I wonder why their “holy books” are so extra brutal on Jews fwiw. What was the deal with that megalomaniac Mo anyway? They must have really threatened his ego for him to write such nasty shite. I mean, there’s a part where some Jews are allowed to leave everything they have rather than convert or die. It was just a little taquiya of course. I guess Mo wanted the town and all the stuff (without their blood on it) b/c he and his demon hordes shortly tracked down these Jews and slaughtered them anyway. My guess is they refused to convert and he couldn’t take it so he made them enemy #1 to his cult, followed up smartly by Christians and everyone else on the planet.

Me in NYC on May 19, 2010 at 6:07 pm

P.Aaron, so start bombing and shooting, exactly where in the Muslim world would you like to beign. Let me think, Saudi, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, UAE, and Yemen, may be difficult as “we have troops” stationed in those lands, so better be careful not to hit our troops. Well, then we have Iraq, guess it makes sense to bomb a nation we just liberated, yeah real smart. Egypt, no we have troops there, as well as they have a treaty with Israel. Turkey, nope, NATO ally. So I guess that leaves Iran, and what a great way to turn the budding democratic underground right into the hands of the hardliners. Well done.
If you are going to start shooting, may I suggest your first shot be aimed straignt at your big toe, for your concept would be another example of shooting ourselves in foot. Thankfully we have people like Petraeus and McCrystal setting military policy, and not some rightwing blogger with a total lack of knowledge on the region.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 6:12 pm

Hey Jean Breban, so I guess you feel we should also be at war with those 7 million, repeat “million” AMERICAN Muslims. Yeah, that makes sense.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 6:13 pm

Hey Hill Billy, let me think do I ask the son of the leader of Hamas about Muslims, or perhaps should I ask someone who was not raised in a terrorist family, say perhaps an American Muslim serving in the Marine Corps. I think I will choose the latter, you pick who you wish, but I have a rule where I generally believe Americans over the son of the Hamas leader.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 6:16 pm

Me in NYC, perhaps you can explain to me then why when the Christians captured Jerusalem they put all men, women, and children of the Muslim and Hebrew faiths to the sword, yet when Saladin recaptured it, he allowed the Christians to leave, and the Hebrews to remain and practice their faith.

If you want to discuss anti-semitism, then before the Middle East, I would have to look at the Western World. Let me see, Crusades, Inquisition, Holocaust, Pogroms, and the basic element of anti-semitism rife in European history. Kind of neglecting to look at that, aren’t ya. That is cool, considering what I would find if I were you, I also would not look.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Jarhead, thank you for the calm and measured response on American Muslims serving. That was fair enough. At least it shows you have the common sense not to label everyone in one group the same. Speaks well for you, and for the USMC.

Only Air Force vet, but may I offer you a Semper Fi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 6:24 pm


    I want to make sure you or anyone else here understand what I meant when I wrote “I am very cautiously supportive (supportive is WAY too strong of a word) of muslims in our military”. First, if they speak with no American accent, too bad Abdul, go find youself another gig. Next, if they attend a mosque, that mosque and its activities are vetted thoroughly. Also, their family members are all looked into. I’m sure you get the idea. They need to be scrutinized with 10X the zeal they put into prosecuting Navy Seals for punching a dumbass raghead in the gut. And even then I would still make sure they were profiled and watched much more closely than your average Joe.

    Jarhead on May 19, 2010 at 7:35 pm

      Jarhead, I would have to disagree with your plan on more in-depth scrutiny of someone due to religion. That to me is just a slope that could lead to making Muslims wear little yellow crescents, and that is not a slope I wish to be on. I concur on the shameful manner that the SEALS were treated, but I think if you talk with some Navy Seals who worked in Operation Iraqi Freedom, you will find much of their success was not only due to their training, but also close coordination, and support from Iraqis who fought to overthrow Saddam as well. Saddam’s jails and graveyards are filled with many a Muslim who either spied for us, or provided us information. And again, if a man has the guts to fight on my side, I would be lame not to stick up for him from innuendo.

      So as with JM, guess we will agree to disagree.

      Good discussion folks, enjoyed it. Out

      Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:43 pm


I strongly suspect you are a Muslim, because you spew out all the propaganda that CAIR wants Americans to believe: that there are seven million Muslims in America, we can’t do anything about it so we might as well submit to them and let many more of them in, they are all peaceful except for a select few that have “perverted” the peaceful teachings of Mohammed, they serve “honorably” in the military, and lie after lie meant to help further the jihad.

Can you name ONE majority or close majority Muslim country in the world where non-Muslims live peacefully with full liberty? Yet we are supposed to believe that Muslims suddenly become “moderate” and loyal when immigrating/invading America and other Western countries? Those who are not Muslim who have grown up around Muslims get it:

Naive liberals with no international experience don’t get it, and Muslims are quick to prey on their ignorance.

And you are shilling for these barbarians. Just come right out and admit you are Muslim, because why else would you have such an interest in disseminating misinformation about the barbaric religion that worships such a vile character as Mohammed?

JM on May 19, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Gordon, understand a few things: any attempts to reason or deal with these murdering bums above board has only resulted in failure. Plus, they killed Sadat (the first peacemaker in their midst) the first chance they got.

Don’t assume I am not aware of recent geography, the history, or probable economic consequences. Also remember, I am only one voter. I have no say in the wimpy foriegn policies our country pusues with tyrants regardless of the letters or phone calls I make. I said it WAS a P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L opinion of one poster. An impatient one at that.

Gordon, we could start in one region…pick one where the HEzbos reside and bomb effectively and get the Arab ‘street’ mad at us. Hell, their mad now! But after trying everything else…FOR DECDAES. Failing to even get the shape of the nogotiating table right, we’re out of options.

But you can keep trying it the old way…if you like.

P. Aaron on May 19, 2010 at 6:48 pm

P.Aaron, have no issue with bombing Hamas or Hizbollah, hell yeah, three bags full, what I have an issue with is the labeling of entire groups, especially when number one, 7 million of that group are American, and secondly, when hundreds of thousands of allied Muslim troops are fighting on our side. Check out Bagarm today, it was not only American troops who repulsed the attacks, but allied Afghani troops as well. And I think is someone has the guts to stand a wall with me, and defend that wall, the least I can do is defend those ones from derision.
But as to Hamas, Hizbollah, and the Taliban, by all means………….BOMBS AWAY. (BTW: Was USAF, been there, done that, got the t-shirt).

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Quote Gordon: But as to Hamas, Hizbollah, and the Taliban, by all means………….BOMBS AWAY. (BTW: Was USAF, been there, done that, got the t-shirt).

    That’s all I’m sayin’.

    P. Aaron on May 19, 2010 at 7:09 pm

Gordon, I tend to agree with your loyalty. In this case I recommend you hear him out WITH your American Muslim friend and get back to me…Musab Hussan Yousef – Son of Hamas (you tube) I would be very anxious to hear both of your reflections of this unique and unrivalled voice…

hill billy on May 19, 2010 at 7:01 pm

Hill Billy, I will and I “will” report back to you. That seems fair enough.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:05 pm

Quote: That’s all I’m sayin’.

In that case P.Aaron, I concur completely.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:10 pm

And can I add, that I find those Muslims (and others) who seem to get a kick out of posting anti-semitic comments, or naming themselves clever little names like KillJews to be repulsive, and not worthy of responding to. For in American we have American Jews, American Muslims, American Bhuddists, American Mormons, American Christians, American Athiests, and so on. Yet, when what we must remember is that when we are not at worship, we are “ALL” still Americans.
Even the Isrealis have figured that much out. For here is a news flash for some out there, having been to Isreal as well I can tell you that there are “also” a great many Isreali Arabs, and Isreali Muslims. In fact, two Generals currently in top leadership positions in the iDF “ARE” Isreali Arabs. So if they don’t stereotype being on the frontline, it seems rather silly for me to.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:19 pm

Hmmm, an entire dicusssion about muslims bad, Jew’s bad, blah blah blah, and a few Debbie’s a racist thrown in for good measure……But not a single comment about the article she reported on which was HAMAS BULLDOZES PALESTINIANS HOMES!
Unficken real…and you Mu-slimes wonder why the rest of the civilized world would like to see you all extinguished….go figure.

perception of truth on May 19, 2010 at 7:19 pm


I’m Catholic, and you must have a very poor understanding of Catholic history if you think Muslims have been peaceful and just simply “spread” around the Mediterranean and into Europe as far as they could go.

Funny you should bring up Malaysia. I studied and lived in Malaysia. Do you really think that Malaysia is a “moderate” Muslim country? It is not, but Muslims and clueless liberals would love for us to think so. The Chinese and Indians are oppressed in Malaysia and have far fewer rights than Muslims, despite the Chinese having built up the country economically. Are Muslims allowed to convert to Christianity in “moderate” Malaysia? Hmm, why not, if Islam in its “moderate” form is so tolerant?

The fact that you are so purposely ignorant is telling. You have some type of mission here to spread false information about Islam.

JM on May 19, 2010 at 7:23 pm

Perception, you better read the comments then for if you did, you will note, not only did I condemn Hamas for their actions (they ARE a terrorist group) but complimented Debbie on bringing the transgressions of Hamas to the forefront. My only issue is with stereotyping of the entire group, to include the 7 million American Muslims. If Americans cannot stick up for other Americans even if they follow different religious doctrine, then we have lost what our Founders provided for us. Namely the concept that all people’s, all faiths, and all Americans have worth and value.
For those who turn their back on those values such as Maj Hassan and the Time’s Square bomber, revoke their citizenship and ship them back. This nation is a “gift” not a “right”.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:27 pm

JM, I have been to Malaysia as well, and suffice to say your experience was different that mine. Does not mean either was posted from ignornance, merely shows a different opinion. And as an American, you have the right to your opinion, as I have the right to disagree with it civilly and pointedly.
I am quite aware of Catholic history, and if you are so inclined, perhaps you should read about the Roman Catholics history of ant-semitism that was rampant until this century. I do note that you did not refute any of my historical comparrisons, and that was wise, as you would again be in error in my view.
Someday I hope you understand that “ALL” Americans are “American” no matter what religion they follow. If not, then I am not angry with you, I pity you for your shortsightedness, but as it does not affect me, no biggie.

So I guess we shall have to agree to disagree.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:32 pm

So JM, what is your suggestion as to what should be done with 7 million legal and patriotic American Muslims? Kick them out. Doubt that Thomas Jefferson had “ethnic cleansing” in mind when he wrote “ALL men are created equal”. Don’t see a religious criteria there fella.

Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:36 pm

Gordon thank you for your open mindedness, and for your service. they both mean a lot particularly on this site on this topic…while were at it, ill make you a proposition…if after you and your americaan mslim miliary brethren thoroughly examined Musab’s positions, if they agree that he is right and should be respected and protected i will send a donation to a fund of your choice for families of fallen american muslim soldiers…if on the other hand they at all lean to he should be killed, I want you to conceede that your theory has a huge risky hole in it and that you have enemys in our house, and I want you to agree to send a check to debbie schlussels website and also give me the go ahead to return to my more typically broad brushed cutting vernacular when referring to the enemy on blogsites…

hill billy on May 19, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Hill Billy, fair enough, you got a deal. By the way, love the handle, my family is from the Wheeling WV area, so HillBilly is a compliment in our clan.

    Gordon on May 19, 2010 at 7:48 pm

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