September 8, 2010, - 7:01 pm

The Koran Burning and the Sudden Excess of Outrage

By Debbie Schlussel

Many readers have asked my opinion on the planned Koran burning on Saturday, the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 Islamic terrorist attacks on America, by Pastor Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida.

While I do not support, embrace, or endorse the International Burn a Koran Day, and it is meant to unnecessarily provoke (and does a disservice to the efforts of those of us who oppose Islam but do not engage in offense like this), I view it as far less offensive than those who burn an American Flag on regular occasions all over America.  The American Flag is far more holy to me than a book which inspires mass murder of all of those who do not adhere to the strictest observance of Islam and its sharia (and often the mass murder of rival Islamic factions).

I also see the burning of the Koran as far less offensive than “art” sponsored by the U.S. government, such as “Piss Christ,” featuring a cross in a bottle of urine.  But Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder never spoke out against that.    Neither did the mainstream media.  Instead of saying to the Islamic world, “this is what America is about–we say and do what we want, no matter how offensive,” they are cowering to those who have already vanquished us on the anniversary of the planned event.  Cowering to the enemy never works.  It eggs them on.

I view the planned burning of Korans as far less offensive than the mass murder of Jews and Christian on a regular basis all over the Islamic world on the basis of the contents of the Koran and its related Hadiths, considered the word of Mohammed.  But Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder never spoke out against that.    Neither did the mainstream media.

I view the planned burning of  Korans as far less offensive than the building of a mosque on top of the holiest Jewish site, the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, and the ongoing excavation of that Temple, which further destroys what is left.  I view the planned burning of Korans as far less offensive than the use of Jewish gravestones as sidewalk pavement and Jewish graves as urination receptacles, all done by Muslims who took over “Palestine” before it was recaptured by Israel in 1967.

I view the planned burning of Korans as far less offensive than I view the Sunni-dominated Saudi destruction of Sh’ite Korans,  in which the leather binding is purposely transformed into thong sandals to denigrate and embarrass Shi’ites and show them their Koran is the lowest of the low, gracing the dirt on the streets.   But Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder never spoke out against that.  Neither did the mainstream media.

Here’s what I view as far more offensive than the burning of Korans:  that the outrage over this is more so than the outrage of any Islamic murder of Americans, any jihadist beheading videos featuring Westerners being slaughtered in the name of the Koran.

And it is offensive that the same liberals who constantly tell me that burning the American flag and denigrating Christianity with urine jars is “free speech” and “that’s very American,” suddenly don’t seem to like free speech.

I also view it as offensive that frauds and whores like Hanan Tudor, the fake whose entire story is false and who goes by the porn name “Brigitte Gabriel” (and who raised money for an organization that praised Muslim death, rape, and torture threats against me, my Holocaust survivor grandmother, and my parents) is using this as an opportunity to condemn free speech, raise money so she can have more expensive designer perfumes and clothes, and engage in moral equivalency comparing this mere burning to the jihadist mass murders of Christians and Jews and destruction of churches and synagogues all over the Islamic world. In her latest shameless fundraising letter, she (actually, her ghostwriter, since they write everything for her including her books) asked:

What is the difference between his actions and the actions of Islamists destroying synagogues in Gaza or churches and Bibles in Lebanon, Bosnia and Egypt?

Yup, Hanan Tudor a/k/a “Brigitte Gabriel” sees burning the Koran as the same as destroying synagogues and churches. Only a moron wouldn’t know the difference and would send out such a cowering statement followed by, “Send me money” (the money being sent for no particular achievement other than being the Zsa Zsa Gabor of Arab pseudo-anti-jihadists).

That to me is far more disgusting than burning a Koran or even many Korans for three hours, even if I don’t support that act. But, then, this is the same fake who told Black churches how happy she was that Barack Obama was elected and who told Bill O’Reilly on FOX News that she praises Obama’s Muslim outreach efforts and that “he’s done a better job than Bush” on it.

After all, anyone who is intellectually honest and knowledgeable will admit that there is one book that inspired 9/11’s mass murder of 3,000 Americans by Muslims.  One book that inspires constant death, rape, and torture threats against me and my family.  One book that inspires planned underwear and Times Square bomb attacks.  IT’S. THE. KORAN.

What if a child or widow of a 9/11 victim was the one who burned the Koran instead of a fringe Florida pastor?  Would we dare tell them that the outrage over the burning of the book is much greater than the outrage over their loved one’s mass murder inspired by and on behalf of that same book?

Sorry, but while I don’t condone the burning of the Koran, I don’t condemn it either.  It’s simply an exercise of the First Amendment . . . an exercise you’ll never see in any of the Islamic world.

And that’s the point.  The Koran burning is VERY American.  Suddenly, the heretofore loquacious First Amendment crowd has been reduced to just crickets chirping.

And that’s soooo very American.  At least, that’s what the liberals told me.

When the Muslims around the world condemn the mass murder of Jews and Christians, the expelling and deportation of them from Muslim countries and regions, the destruction of synagogues and mosques, the spilling of blood of even secular Muslims and gays, then I will worry about condemning an irrelevant preacher in Florida exercising the First Amendment and not killing anyone or taking anyone’s property and reducing it to rubble or expelling anyone from his/her country.

But only then. Until then, I will embrace the First Amendment, which they don’t have anywhere in the Muslim world . . . unless you are the Caliph or the Sheikh.

Remember, liberals:  that’s what being American is all about.  Isn’t it?

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174 Responses

@John, what makes you think militant Muslims won’t attack us civilians here in America? Aren’t we easier targets? What would stop a crazy Muslim from killing a lot of people on 9/11 for retaliation of a Koran burning?
So the argument made by KING HUSSEIN OBAMA, Gen. Petraus and the MSM would be applied to us as well as soldiers. This is a straw man argument they have created. We are not intimidating physical force if the Ground Zero mosque is to be built. We will say they are a POS. This pastor is burning a Koran and we are to be threatened. There is a big difference.

CaliforniaScreaming on September 9, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Great job Debbie, very insightful. I didn’t know about the Suni/Shia Qur’an burning. Making leather sandals from their covers? Interesting, a story in itself. Good call on Brigitte Gabriel. She is a phony and a fraud as you have pointed out. J.C.

    Jim Campbell on September 10, 2010 at 11:02 am

The arguement we always get from the liberals is “We have to hold ourselves to higher standards”. BS. The liberal media showed its true colors along with the people on capitol hill when they were outraged at the gruesome torture we were apparently doing at Abu Garab. Really? REALLY? I saw the pictures and for the most part, some fraternities I new in college did more than that. Of course, our politicians didn’t seem to object to the retaliation of the muslims when they dragged an american soldier’s body behind a car and mutilated others.

I am just sick and tired of these extremists acting like a bunch of animals and our government says nothing about it, and then turns around and screems at their own countrymen everytime someone flushes a koran down the toilet, burns it, shows a picture of Mohamed, or anything that might offend muslims.

fatherofajarhead on September 9, 2010 at 3:43 pm

Burn it Baby, Burn it!

Its ABOUT TIME someone sends a shot over the bow of the “Islamic religion of Peace” crowds bow.

We’ll see just how peaceful these thugs really are.

I’m sick of the pandering, hopefully this will galvanize an anti-muslim reality campaign in this country.

Islam is about conquering and killing ALL infidels!!!

Its NOT about peace.

HG

Anyone whom argues otherwise is lying or an imbecile.

HG on September 9, 2010 at 3:57 pm

Clearly you are not doing your homework well. If you had read the translation of Koran before, you know certainly that it does not condone mass murder or those stupid assumptions that you are assuming. You are a fucking Bigot and your overly photshopped face would be more easy on the eyes if you weren’t one.

P/s: Islam is a beautiful religion. It is the PEOPLE or the FOLLOWERS of Islam that had tarnished the good name of Islam. If you want to attack an issue concerning Islam, attack the people.. but not the Koran or the God.

Just like all American, I think you should burn calories instead of burning the Koran, Debbie. It will make your ugly face and your stupid brain more tolerable. Bye bye miss smelly vagina.

debbieschlusselisastupidbitch on September 9, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    “You are a fucking Bigot and your overly photshopped face would be more easy on the eyes if you weren’t one.”

    You just demonstrated the true nature of Islam. Congratulations! lol

    Worry01 on September 10, 2010 at 3:57 am

    Another brilliant reply from the religion of peace.

    Duck on September 11, 2010 at 9:49 am

@California Screaming:

“”what makes you think militant Muslims won’t attack us civilians here in America? Aren’t we easier targets? What would stop a crazy Muslim from killing a lot of people on 9/11 for retaliation of a Koran burning?””

Muslims don’t need any kind of excuse. Even if we did everything Muslims allegedly wanted, they would still come after us for one reason or another. These are people that kill each other because the Shiites or Sunnis are not “Islamic” enough. Muslims have been attacking us in America, before 9-11. Remember the first bombing of the WTC in 1993. There have been many attacks since then, such as the Beltway Shooter.

Burning the Qu’ran won’t solve anything. A million or two American telling Imam Rauf where he can stick his Mosque would be more effective. Answering the Islamic caterwauling to prayer in America, should be answered by the guitar solo in Boston’s, Long Time. And with a lot more volume. ;)

I’m no friend of Islam. But there are better and more effective ways of resistance. Diplomacy is greatly enhanced with a loaded weapon, a favorite animal and two of my favorite people; Colt 45, and Smith and Wesson.

John on September 9, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    I disagree that buring koran’s won’t accomplish anything. I see it more as a statement TO Americans. The burning is meant to be a reminder of what happened on 9/11….it WILL serve as an effective reminder about the enemy we are up against….while this administration and liberal media are attempting to white-wash the entire tragedy and falsely portray Islam as the ‘peaceful’ religion. Can’t even call it ‘terrorism’ anymore. They’re doing their damndest to make us complacent again…and Americans need to be reminded…and NEVER FORGET. Burn baby!

    its.hinkey on September 10, 2010 at 5:48 pm

…a million or two AmericanS. Ahh!

John on September 9, 2010 at 4:11 pm

Or maybe the call to prayer answered with Roger Daltrey’s frustrated scream from Won’t Get Fooled Again. The theme song of this year’s elections.

John on September 9, 2010 at 4:13 pm

“P/s: Islam is a beautiful religion.”.

At some point in time in history, I would agree with you. If my history is correct (or should I say history channel), I think there was a time that during the crusades, the christians would kill all the people in a village that they conquered, but the Muslims would let villagers of a conquered city live and showed mercy. Also, there was a point in time where the Muslims were known be the highest scholars.

“You are a fucking Bigot and …..”

And then you said..

“Just like all American, I think you should burn calories instead of burning the Koran, ”

Sorry, but I don’t think Debbie used any terms like “All Muslims” or “All Arabs”. You, my friend,are the prejudice one.

fatherofajarhead on September 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    fatherofajarhead, your history (from the History Channel) is incorrect. Islam has always–from day one–been a totalitarian, murderous cult. That is because its creator, Mo, was the apotheosis of evil. In contrast, consider that Jesus, whether or not one considers him divine, was a good man (sorry to offend any Christians here). That means that his example tends to make people better, whereas the example of Mo makes them much worse.

    skzion on September 11, 2010 at 3:03 pm

Nailed it Debbie!

Duane on September 9, 2010 at 4:38 pm

No, the general is weighing in because he was told to by BO and the other people he reports to. Anyone who thinks that Patraeus and the rest of our military is not political is naive.

Some of the arguments that have been raised here make me think of those who blamed the riots in the ghettos on those supposedly responsible for their conditions, rather than on the rioters themselves. There is a slippery slope we’ve been sliding down for a while. Oh, oh, don’t provoke these people, and maybe they’ll leave us alone. Classic appeasement.

CS is telling it like it is.

It’s too bad that it is a kooky action like this, but the real reason these Muslim savages are attacking Americans is because they can’t tolerate us because we don’t kowtow to their loony values. Just like it isn’t the Israelis’ fault they are under constant attack.

Little Al on September 9, 2010 at 4:40 pm

BTW, I haven’t seen any polls yet on how the American people feel about this. I’d really be interested, and the silence is speaking volumes.

How about an honest poll, broken down by gender, race, region, political affiliation, etc.? I’ll bet the elite has the results and doesn’t dare release them.

Little Al on September 9, 2010 at 4:51 pm

Our rulers don’t care what we think. They are always trying to tell us what to think. What we think does not matter to them unless they can use it to make money on us, punish us or repress us.

RT on September 9, 2010 at 5:07 pm

It’s ok for the KKK to burn a cross in front of a house but it’s NOT ok to burn a Koran?
If one is ok, then so is the other, & it don’t matter if we agree or not, it’s all free speech according to the Supreme Court is it not?

Who cares? on September 9, 2010 at 5:15 pm

For the past two months we were lectured by the KING HUSSEIN OBAMA, Muslims, the Left and the MSM on our need for tolerance as this imam from New York wants to build his mosque. We were lectured how this was his free expression, how we must tolerate other religions and we were extremists for suggesting he move his mosque. However the protests never amounted to calls of violence by pastors or priests. Now the shoe is on the other foot and the FBI is circling the wagons, a military general is using a straw man argument and Interpol is warning Americans residing outside the States to worry about their safety. So why does Interpol have to make a warning if the we are to believe that Islam is the religion of peace?

CaliforniaScreaming on September 9, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    CaliforniaScreaming – you’re on a roll today and I have got to agree with you on a lot you wrote. Excellent comments.

    For those people who don’t like the book burning, is it alright if we just dunk the Koran in bacon grease?

    samurai – I understand what you are saying about putting the troops in more danger, but you should also understand that your son is also fighting to protect this book burning. Yeah, the situation is not ideal, but I believe that the protection of the 1st amendment takes precidence on this one. If it were military or national secrets being distributed, then I agree with you about putting the troops in more danger. But this book burning is as American as apple pie and baseball.

    Jarhead on September 9, 2010 at 6:12 pm

      I communicated with him and the word is not encouraging concerning this carnival. I’m surprised that you would think putting troops in harms way more is a good idea. Claiming the 1st amendment is what he’s fighting for falls on empty ears when I’ve already heard him tell me 3 friends of his have been killed already in the short time he’s been deployed. I’ve revised my thinking because my sons there and I don’t take comfort in thinking about hs protecting the 1st amendment and dying for it. That’s arm chair b.s.

      samurai on September 9, 2010 at 6:18 pm

        samurai – I don’t want the troops put in more danger than you do, but this book burning is not against the law. And now the Pastor is backing off from this book burning. I don’t like the Pastor at all, he is lower than whale sh#t, and he has just shown us the stones he has.

        One other thing samurai, don’t tell me about arm chair sh#t. I’ve served, been there, done that and payed my price in full, as well as paying the price for many of our countrymen that never served. I probably have more right than most people who comment here to express these views from first hand experience. You’re alright dude, just don’t give me your sh#t about my being an arm chair BS’er.

        Jarhead on September 9, 2010 at 6:33 pm

I wonder if liberals would react the same to burnings of bibles? Would Angelina Jolie speak out against it? Would Hillary Clinton, whose husband swore an oath on one during his inaugurations? I have my doubts.

Buring the Korans isn’t a good idea, and will just fuel more Islamist propaganda. However, if your faith is so much that the burning your holy books incites you to violence, then you are psychotic.

Agen T on September 9, 2010 at 5:17 pm

This is an inflammatory act. Burning a Koran is equally as bad as burning an American Flag, Bible, Talmud, etc. The fear I have is that someone will take it a step further. They are endangering innocent lives on American soil because of hatred, and hiding behind a church to do it.

colt13 on September 9, 2010 at 5:30 pm

Well, looks like PC has defeated free speech once again. This is disgraceful, especially with a general who is supposed to be fighting terrorists, but instead gives in to them. It is naive to think that he does not carry this mindset onto the battlefield. And our political misleaders have made fools out of themselves and shown that the Muslims’ slightest wish is their command.

Just like the cartoon incident.

Little Al on September 9, 2010 at 6:09 pm

I say…burn baby burn! Eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth. I’m sick of America sitting back like a bunch of queer ducks. I for one despise the Muslim faith. Or whatever the heck you call them…Muslims, Islams, Terrorist, they are all sneaky bastards. Conquer them! Democracy to all!! Freedom to the women of these horrible countries! Don’t ever, ever mess with the U.S. Can’t wait to see the wreck of a POTUS OBAMA go bye-bye too! It will be so exciting waving good bye to Nancy Pelosi too the same way she did George Bush!! Shut up Gen. Petreaus – get the job done and get our men out of dodge and back home where they belong!! As Tom Petty says…”I won’t back down, baby, there aint no easy way out”. I stand my ground and I won’t back down.

Karen on September 9, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Let’s be honest here. This was a stupid publicity stunt to bring attention to this guy in Florida. We should have just ignored him. The attention paid to him was an unnecessary waste of time.

Ghostwriter on September 9, 2010 at 6:41 pm

everybody should threaten to burn a koran unless obama releases his long-form birth certificate!

that’ll put barry in a pickle! and make him look like a bigger idiot!

(spread the idea if you like it). :))

Captain Steve on September 9, 2010 at 7:20 pm

You should have all heard by now, the pastor pussed out. I wonder what the Feds threatened him with. My only comment I will borrow from Clint Eastwood in the movie “Grand Torino”…..”PUSSCAKE!”

RT on September 9, 2010 at 7:44 pm

i should burn the bible, koran, torah, and ‘on the origin of species’. that way, everyone is offended!

free speech motherfuckers!

open on September 9, 2010 at 7:48 pm

After 9/11 our government did PSYOPS on the masses by having us change our behavior to appease Muslims. We were told instigating civilian action against Islam would put civilians in harms way. They told us it was patriotic to give up some of our freedoms for security. The Patriot Act was installed. After about 4 years people didn’t fall for this PSYOPS and ignored the government. So now in order for the people to comply, OBAMA and his generals are effectively putting out another PSYOPS on the masses. Fall out of line with Islam and you put our soldiers in harms way. Now the people of America who wish to exercise their freedoms are responsible for terrorists behavior. OMFG!! KING HUSSEIN OBAMA has put on a better PSYOPS than GWBUSH. Talk about guilting people in compliance. Holy Sh*t speak against Islam and the Koran and you are responsible for any soldier getting harmed. Are you f*cking kidding me?

Now Conservatives are toeing the line for KING HUSSEIN OBAMA’S PSYOPS. Conservatives are parroting KING HUSSEIN OBAMA line to make people comply with his ideology. Fuck I never thought I would see the day. So Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf can now say we are an accessory to any Muslim attack if we ever incite or speak out against Islam.

CaliforniaScreaming on September 9, 2010 at 7:58 pm

Liberals love burning symbols… as long as its about the West and America.

When it comes to Islam, suddenly there is a demand for “respect and tolerance.” Which the Left doesn’t extend to the Judeo-Christian faiths.

About that – well if you insult them, its considered “free speech. Live with it!

Just don’t call it hypocrisy.

NormanF on September 9, 2010 at 8:19 pm

Jarhead on September 9, 2010 at 6:12 pm:
“CaliforniaScreaming – you’re on a roll today and I have got to agree with you on a lot you wrote. Excellent comments.”

I second that…Stay on that soapbox CS, Keep it up!

“For those people who don’t like the book burning, is it alright if we just dunk the Koran in bacon grease?”

Sure, and you can put it in a museum right next to my ‘Koran dunked in a vat of maggot infested pig’s blood’ and we’ll call it…ART!

I hope I pissed off some self righteous libs there :)
Free speech baby…suck it up!

theShadow on September 9, 2010 at 8:38 pm

everyone already knows that the israelis were behind the 9-11 attack. what a coincidence that all 5,000 workers that worked in the world trade center, who happened to be israelis were absent on the day of the attack!!!

barbara kensington on September 9, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Attention all decks…
    Ignorant Moron on board!

    theShadow on September 9, 2010 at 8:49 pm

So, at first we tell the world we will never appease terrorists. We will not let terrorists change our way of life. So what is the first thing that happens when we hear of a Koran burning? Appease the terrorists and the Muslim world, so as not to provoke them. When was the last time Secretary Gates called Imam Rauf and personally asked him to not provoke Americans with the Ground Zero Mosque?

Simcha Siminskewitz on September 9, 2010 at 9:14 pm

So if KING HUSSEIN OBAMA, Sec Gates, Gen Petraus and Imam Rauf all state that protesting the mosque will only put our soldiers in harms way will you change your view about the mosque?

CaliforniaScreaming on September 9, 2010 at 9:43 pm

@RT on September 9, 2010 at 7:44 pm
I just read that Pastor TJ just changed his mind again.
Looks like it’s on afterall…maybe…he’s still praying.

So, maybe he’s not a ”PUSSCAKE!” …LOL!

theShadow on September 9, 2010 at 10:14 pm

Sad to see that the pastor involved in the koran burning caved to the pressure, but I am happy that Americans around the world are finally safe from muslim intimidation. Now that pastor Jones has extinguished his bic mussies no longer have justification to murder, maime, torture, mutilate, rape, or slander another innocent human. We’re saved!

Mewize on September 9, 2010 at 10:25 pm

If it is OK to burn the American flag overseas why can’t
we burn the Koran????

Duane Hewitt on September 9, 2010 at 11:19 pm

We “can’t”burn the Koran because the MUSLIMS say we can’t, OR ELSE. How does that work for you? How does that taste?

RT on September 10, 2010 at 7:59 am

I think that burning the Koran is a praiseworthy act. The only way to reform Islam (probably impossible) or expel it from this country is to force its practitioners to choose between a Sharia-based response (trying to kill the infidel) and a democracy-based response (accepting that others will have different views and they have every right to express them). By not forcing the issue, we simply allow creeping dhimmitude.

So, if you like the idea of Islam conquering the West, you will continue to protect Islam’s artifacts. This is the traditional approach to Islam, and it is why there are fully 1.5B adherents to this non-religion.

skzion on September 10, 2010 at 10:21 am

@skzion, well said.

CaliforniaScreaming on September 10, 2010 at 11:05 am

So with all the guts it takes to get online and say burn the koran, I’d like to see one of the tough people on this site go some place that has a high concentration of muslims like Dearborn Michigan and do it yourself. It is easy enough to do. I’m sure that there are plenty of other high concentrations of muslims in other places. Go exercise your first amendment right and put yourself out there if you are so adament that you are right. Then you might appreciate the stress on American military families dealing with this dumb ass. For the record I’m not a fan of muzzies, anyone that knows me knows that.
@ jarhead, you may have served but do you have a kid over there? To me it’s like giving the wild indians around the fort a few kegs of whiskey.

samurai on September 10, 2010 at 11:15 am

    samurai, I’d like to see you address any of my points. When will you?

    “So with all the guts it takes to get online and say burn the koran, I’d like to see one of the tough people on this site go some place that has a high concentration of muslims like Dearborn Michigan and do it yourself.”

    There would be problems with setting fires on public land. A better approach would be to march wearing Mo-Toons or perhaps with “art” defacing the Koran. The logistics would have be set up, and we’d have a problem because of the dhimmis of Dearborn. It would be important to pack heat and know how to use it.

    But wait, samurai. If, say, I led such a march, wouldn’t I be endangering the troops as well? How can you advocate this?

    “For the record I’m not a fan of muzzies, anyone that knows me knows that.”

    No, you are just complicit in dhimmitude. The military is not supposed to be a social welfare organization. If it cannot defend against a Koran burner, there are problems. Frankly, I now think the military should have simply slaughtered a few million Afghans in response to 9/11, including the main cities, and let starvation and nature take its course. THAT would have been safer for our troops and gotten the job done.

    As for Iraq, there’s the oil, which is a complicating factor.

    skzion on September 10, 2010 at 11:30 am

      As bold as you are online, I recommend exercising your right to the 1st amendment at your local mosque or muslim community center. If you stand for the constitution as you say, that shouldn’t be a big deal. Just avoid the whole burning stuff on public land b.s. and hold a sign with your ignorant thoughts bold and proud. Across the street from what ever muslim structure you live near. If it’s about your rights to demonstrate, just go and do it, stop typing and do it. Also, I have engaged in protests when it wasn’t real safe. I have engaged muslims face to face in this country and in England years ago. Him and some of his algerian friends were spouting some crap and I shut him up to which his friends took of as well. I was with one friend and he with 5 but they left. I’ve walked the walk and still do every day. As a present to myself I’m going to avoid this topic on this site for reason of inner peace. Anyone out there with a loved one in the middle of trashcanistan knows what I’m talking about. I’m pretty far from a dhimmi. I engage in battles that don’t hurt my family. I protect people for a living and subdue my enemies under me as in Psalm 144. skzion I await your picture in the paper where you are such a crusader of the law.lol

      samurai on September 10, 2010 at 2:43 pm

        It’s good that samurai has dropped out of this discussion, as it has been one-sided: samurai has not engaged ANYONE’S points.

        I found one sentence in his latest to be noteworthy: “I engage in battles that don’t hurt my family.” Well, if samurai is so focused on this point, why did he not dissuade his son from joining the military in the first place? And, as Screamer has asked, what else should American citizens not do so as to provide samurai with (illusory) comfort?

        Anyway, there’s no point in repeating everything that others have said here. I’d just point out that even if I had NOT already engaged in political actions that had a level of danger (and I have), and even if I had no plans to do a lot regarding Islam in the future (and I have), I would still be fully within my rights to agitate for the fall of Islam, and that is my purpose. The good pastor would have done his part if he had completed his action.

        skzion on September 11, 2010 at 12:14 pm

It’s surprising to me that someone who has read and contributed to this site for a long time, and made many valuable comments over time does not understand that the Islamic terrorist dynamic facing our troops exists independently of our own actions (such as burning Korans). The attacks on the Cole, Lebanon, etc., etc. not to mention 9/11 itself, did not take place because of Koran-burning or equivalent actions. The attacks occur because the Muslims don’t like us and want to destroy our civilization.

Same with Israel; the dynamic of attacks against Israel is independent of what the Israelis do or don’t do.

While the timing of some of the attacks may be related to actions such as Koran-burning, the dynamic exists independently, and in the long run and probably the short run also, appeasement will only intensify the attacks on the troops. Similar to Israel leaving Gaza. Once the process starts of assessing action or inaction by what irrational actions the Muslims will do if enraged, it picks up its own momentum, as has certainly been the case in the last nine years.

Attacks on the backgrounds or personalities of those contributing to this site is unworthy of the standards that prevail here, or should prevail among those making comments.

Little Al on September 10, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Extremely well put, Little Al.

    skzion on September 11, 2010 at 3:07 pm

When the religion of “peace” (actually,they’re the religion of “pieces” – pieces of you here, there, everywhere…when they bomb you or chop you up)leaves their 7th Century mentality behind and stops stoning women, starts giving them equal rights, stops hanging homosexuals, embrace Christians, quit beheading Westerners or American servicemen; basically, become civilized and true peace loving people(don’t be Yasser Arafats and tell us what we want to hear…Too many have fallen for that B.S. Personally, I never believe a f*cking thing the Mooses tells us) and join the rest of us in the 21st Century, then, maybe, THEN, I’ll consider them welcomed. Other than that, f*ck U!

I know you Loco Mooses and you softbelly, coward liberals – want to use our technology, civil rights and governments to overthrow us, control us and enslave us…It ain’t gonna work.
Learn from the Japanese. You can only push the American people so far and you guys are about to see the real deal…Keep f*cking with us. You may not like what you get.

Screw it, let’s go World War III. We got to clean the trash out. First, it was the Germans, then Japanese, well, hell, let’s do it right and clean out all the trash in the Middle East. Burn all the Korans, mosques, every freaking thing.
Let’s go General Sherman and go “total war”. That’s the only thing they know and respect in that part of the world. See how helpful (I’m being sarcastic here) the Chinese and Russians are? They loved to do it but rather stand by and let the “bad” Americans to do it. Sneaky f*cks. Appeasement only leads to bigger wars. History tells us so.

The weak trust paper and words. The strong: action and steel.
Pick a side, it’s only a matter of time.

Later- Sight alignment, sight picture…Easy steady squeeze…

The Sarge on September 10, 2010 at 1:55 pm

One last thing – Were was all this world outrage when Americans or innocent civilians were being murdered, beheaded and burned by the observers of the religion of “peace”? Not a peep from the “world” community or UN or from the Hollyweird commies. F*ck Angelina Jolie, The Pope, Holder, Clinton and these fake ass wipes who are now so offended. Where were YOU when our people were being brutalized and murdered? I wish all these fake f*cks would just James Jones themselves and leave the rest of us alone. Later -

The Sarge on September 10, 2010 at 2:03 pm

Whether we condone or condemn “International Burn a Koran Day,” we must accept the fact that there will be a backlash or “blowback” if the burning goes through – because Muslims will be outraged like Christians would if there was an “International Burn a Bible Day.”
The backlash would mirror the “blowback” we got (which would include the 9/11 terror attacks) due to our interventionist foreign policy which was the reason Osama Bin Laden issued his 1996 “Declaration of War” against America. Accordingly, Bin laden’s “Declaration of War” against America cited U.S. support for Israel’s intervention in Palestine as one of the examples of our own interventionist (and unconstitutional)foreign policy.

ramjordan on September 10, 2010 at 2:44 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html

Read the above if you still wonder why we don’t like the Koran.

smg45acp on September 10, 2010 at 3:01 pm

Exactly–there are approximately 8 million things to get more offended at than some two-bit preacher with a congregation of 50 teasing us with the idea that he might burn some Korans in Florida. I’ll take liberal outrage at this event a bit more seriously when they start getting offended at some of the real anti-Semitic and anti-American outrages going on around the world.

Scott Spiegel on September 10, 2010 at 5:25 pm

Burn baby Burn! This is free speech and he has the right to burn a Koran, or even a truck load of them if he desires to.

Chuck on September 10, 2010 at 5:40 pm

it seems to be Ok for them to burn Bibles, Don’t remember much about this in the news do you? check it out.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html?cat=9

George on September 10, 2010 at 6:58 pm

Did you hear about the shooting at the oreo cookie factory? was another one of them peacenik muslims. read this. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Co-Worker-Calls-Alleged-Shooter-Very-Spiritual-102624529.html

george on September 10, 2010 at 7:12 pm

Burning Koran = free speech
Releasing R-rated superhero film (Watchmen) = completely unacceptable!!

stay classy, schlussel.

pie on September 10, 2010 at 8:07 pm

Ramjordan writes:

because Muslims will be outraged like Christians would if there was an “International Burn a Bible Day.”

Really? you think Christians will riot and murder because some Bibles have been burned? It wasn’t that long ago that Muslims were, in fact, burning Bibles and crosses. I must have missed all the mayhem that followed.

BoKnows on September 10, 2010 at 9:23 pm

The arab-quran burning episode is a cause celebre, engineered to support the islamonazi agenda. We have one dopey Christian cleric with a flock of 50 teethless backwoods types, and that is allowed to be a Christian demonstration against muzlims.

The media has served as the enemy’s player pianos in this latest matter.

Anti-Muslim on September 10, 2010 at 10:54 pm

Thanks Debbie for enlightening me re: Brigitte Gabriel (Hanan Tudor). I’ll be canceling my donation to her organization.

Warren Crocker Herrick on September 11, 2010 at 12:31 am

First off to ramjordan, fuck off you sniveling bloody coward. You either side with the West or your against it,that means Israel and Europe, what happens there will happen here, just a matter of time, there is no longer any middle ground, no neutrality, that will no longer cut it anymore.
Second, I work in those shitholes and the muzzies don’t need a reason to hate you, they already do. I in principal don’t believe in burning books, but where islam is concerned burn the godforsaken thing. Keep provoking the muzzies because the more you do the more they show their true colors and the more Americans will wake up to the fact islam in general is a threat to us, they will go mid evil and I encourage them to do so.The left can take this multiculteral drivel and effing get stuffed.
When we in the West finially tire of muslims the anger will come to a level not seen since the second world war and will make the Crusades look like a sunday school picinic, and it will be no quarter, since non is given. You folks can take it to the bank that you haven’t see anything yet.
Like Jarhead, I have been there done that and still do it and have the postcards, so what he says is good as gold.

Drakken on September 11, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Drakken – I see you are still doing the work that Americans won’t do (well, at least the libs won’t do). Thanks. I hope you have been able to assist those warriors still in the suck and are able to get your hands on some good Kentucky windage.

    Jarhead on September 11, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Thanks for your service, Drakken (and for yours, Jarhead).

    skzion on September 11, 2010 at 12:22 pm

Burn the Koran! And don’t forget the bible, torah and every other peice-of-shit fairy tale retards hold onto in a desperate attempt to avoid the inevitable.

Your Mom on September 11, 2010 at 2:21 am

    My mom is a lot smarter you than you. Also, she doesn’t have a filthy mouth (though her language is not so ladylike when she sees Hussein on the telly).

    skzion on September 11, 2010 at 2:12 pm

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