January 21, 2011, - 3:21 pm

OUTRAGE: Can’t Believe Detroitistan is Sending This Guy to Prison

By Debbie Schlussel

Just over a year ago, I told you about Tigh Croff, the security guard and father who was sick and tired of being a crime victim in his Detroit neighborhood. He shot and killed an unarmed robber, who surrendered.   As I noted, his home had been robbed three times because that’s Detroit, and the police aren’t around to enforce the law. This week, Croft was convicted of manslaughter and will do at least two years in prison. He faces another possible 15 years.  Last year, a much smarter jury deadlocked.  Sadly, this latest jury wasn’t so smart, taking less than two hours to send this man to the big house.

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Say Nice Things About Detroitistan & Send Men Like Tigh Croff to Jail for Defending Their Families

As I wrote back in 2009, I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, when an unarmed criminal has surrendered, you should call police and keep your gun pointed on him.   On the other hand, Croff had had enough. He’d been the victim, multiple times, at the hands of guys like the one he shot. Tigh Croff was a law-abiding father who, unlike 90% of fathers in Detroit, was in his kids’ lives. Now, he will be taken away from them, in sharp contrast to the many Detroitistan sperm donors who father kids at random, are never in their lives, and continue to roam the streets committing crime after crime.  That serves no one and isn’t in the public interest.  People who live in Detroit are forced into this because crime is rampant and police aren’t.

I don’t think Tigh Croff should go to prison, where it will serve no purpose to pay to house and feed him and keep him from his job as a security guard. Croff was provoked by robbers. And he was merely trying to protect his family. Sometimes, in the heat of all that, you do things you wouldn’t and shouldn’t. But it’s not like the victim was an innocent man. He was a robber, a robber of Croff’s house. At most, Croff should be forced to do some community service, though I’d argue that by cleaning a robber off of Detroit’s streets, he already did quite a service to the community, even if I don’t think he should’ve killed the guy.

Croff admitted to police that, “I told him he was going to die, and then I shot him.” The moral of the story here is not to talk to the police. Just wait for your lawyer.  That’s what I tell all of my clients.  But, sadly, when they hire me, they’ve already blabbed.

With all of the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and other violent thugs roaming Detroit’s streets, it’s a damn shame that Michigan taxpayers will shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep Croff locked up when he is no threat to the rest of society . . . only to the criminals who come to rob his home.

There’s a message–a very bad one–being sent here: that violent criminals are less guilty than innocent people who protect themselves from them.

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19 Responses

To be quit honest with you on this, I feel like you, I have two hearts here; 1) is that I understand this mans anger and why he finally pushed it BUT the other heart in me is the professional soldier and that one tells you – no matter how mad I am: An unarmed surrendering Criminal shooting is manslaughter it is that simple. Sure Mr. Croff could have done the smart thing, have a unmarked unregistered .38 layd in the hands of the criminal and than call it for self defense but he did not.

Bottom Line, I am sorry but that is justified.

Tom Lehner on January 21, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    @Tom, That’s bullshit. The moral of this story is to limit what you tell the cops after defending yourself. Starting with the 911 operator. There’s a new book out about what to say to the 911 operator just because of travesties like this. Sometimes it doesn’t pay to talk to the police as much as this poor guy did. The fifth amendment is there for everyone not just the scum bags. Remember to tell 911 only that there’s been a shooting and what you’re wearing what the bad guys wearing and to send a ambulance. You be the guy with your wallet i.d. and hands in the air. Plead the fifth and get your lawyer on the phone asap maybe even first before the cops.

    samurai on January 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm

Yes, it is a very sad state of affairs. I appreciate your analysis.

Suzanne Ennis on January 21, 2011 at 3:38 pm

No, I believe that under the conditions, this man is innocent, and not even morally culpable. Let me explain.

Detroit is in a state of total anarchy. There is no law, except the law of the jungle. In the old West, where the law could be days or weeks away, the criminal was executed on the spot.

Now, this poor man had his home broken into three times. Did the police try to catch the criminal? Did they take fingerprints? Was any attempt made to protect this man’s family? No. They police serve the primary purpose of scraping the bodies off the ground after the crime. The only people who get top protection, and whose homes are dusted for prints, are the rich and powerful. Not the poor. Not the working class. Not the middle class.

Mr. Croff did what is necessary in a completely lawless society. He took the law into his own hands, because there is no law, and no society in Detroit. Indeed, second graders in a Detroit school were taking their clothes off and having sex, with the teacher in the classroom. SECOND GRADERS. Now, if this does not prove, at least anecdotely, that society has ceased to exist in Detroit, nothing does.

Detroit is only the beginning.

Jonathan Grant on January 21, 2011 at 3:52 pm

Absolutely this guy should go to prison. He shot an UNARMED man who had surrendered! It doesn’t matter that he was “fed up” with the crime situation. If you’re going to keep a firearm for defensive purposes you need to be held to a higher standard. Once the scumbag surrenders, it’s over. Let the system, bad as it may be, deal with it. And Mr. Lehner’s suggestion is ignorant in fact, criminal. He advocates tampering with a crime scene and planting evidence. Had Croff done this, the police WOULD HAVE discovered it (sometimes they DO know what they’re doing) and what turned out to be manslaughter in this case could have turned into premidated murder, taking him away from his family for much longer, possibly the rest of his life.

Gary Tucholl on January 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    @Gary, Maybe as they are waiting for the police to show the bad guy attacks Croff and gets the gun away from him. Crime isn’t a game, neither is safety and that’s something criminals don’t get. Oh f’in game over now I give up, hands up. NOw the bad guy gets to talking smack and threatens to come back or something. Oh, snap, the game is the situation is “over”? I’d contend that the jury should’ve let the guy go aquitted with a key to the city like a hero should get. Too many monday morning quarter backs, scratch thatmaybe cowards. Go live in that cesspool called Detroit and tell us what ya think about this situation after you survive about 30 yrs.

    samurai on January 21, 2011 at 5:57 pm

Well, he should have not shot him and call the cops,
that being, let’s say, not too smart.

Either let him go(WITHOUT A BEATING) or put him in the trunk
of the car for a “ride”.

In matter of life and death, you got to play it safe or not at all.

Not using a cool head get you in prison…for a long time.
They are full of people who “did not think”…

Ming the Merciless on January 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm

“that violent criminals are less guilty than innocent people who protect themselves from them.”

We still live under the Constitution where everyone still has unalienable rights, including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the right to be deemed innocent until proven guilty, the right to a trial by your peers and the right to be free from cruel and unusual punsishment…am I correct?

We still live in America don’t we? Do we crave a fascist state so much that we are willing to sacrifice what we believe in?

Monday morning quarterbacks and cowards notwithstanding, if the bad guy surrenders, what gives Tigh Croff or anyone for that matter the right to execute him/her? If the guy surrenders and then gets up and attempts to attack, then that is self defense. But Croft told the bad guy he intended to kill him and then did, would not that be pre-meditation to commit murder? Does it even really matter how many times Croff had his house broken into according to the law? Being pissed off because someone keeps breaking into your home doesn’t seem to be a good defense for murder, no matter how ineffectual the police in Detroit are.

If the bad guy surrenders, is compliant and unarmed and is shot and killed…well, that is murder according to our American values.

Am I wrong here?

Napolean the pig. on January 21, 2011 at 6:46 pm

I bet Charles Bronson is shaking his head in disgust, wherever he is.

pitandpen on January 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS take advantage of that right. I spent 32 years in law enforcement and even though all the suspects were Mirandized, less than 5% invoke their rights. The easiest part of my job was getting people to talk. Do yourself a favor and STFU!

Bonzer Wolf on January 21, 2011 at 11:07 pm

Too bad he didn’t cut up the body and run it down the garbage disposal where it belonged….the out of control animals in much of Detroit deserve anything that comes their way; to include a bullet in the head…bonzer has the right idea, just say no and STFU!!!! After you shoot of course….

PPit on January 22, 2011 at 9:51 pm

ANYTHING you say can and WILL be used against you in a court of law, period!
Guilty or innocent, STFU and get a lawyer.

I agree with samurai, Jonathan Grant and Bronzer Wolf.
The man did the world a favour.

this Jury says innocent

theShadow on January 23, 2011 at 3:40 am

Michigan needs a castle law like Texas’ law…

http://www.rc123.com/texas_castle_doctrine.html

RoseOfTexas on January 24, 2011 at 12:10 am

I feel bad for the guy. Considering how many ACTUAL criminals get off scott free, surely he should have gotten a break. He was being honest with the police and this is how he is paid for it. How could he know that the criminal was unarmed, anyway? Maybe the scumbag had a gun that he planned to pull out at the first opportunity. I guess I don’t have all the details of the situation, but just because the scumbag ended up being unarmed doesn’t mean that the defendent knew that when he shot him.

batyah on January 24, 2011 at 12:51 am

Debbie & all of you upset about 2 years for what seems to be a murder, not an accident which would be manslaughter, can spin until you fall over. He had the guy at gunpoint & had no right to murder him. I couldn’t share your frustration more about the situation we’re in, that the shooter was in, having been robbed twice before. You aint going to get me to condone not waiting for police to take him to prison. There’s a huge difference between this shooter & Bernie Goetz who was attacked on the NY Subway or anybody like Goetz who’s being attacked or sees armed robbers in his/her home. Shoot ‘em 50 times! But when a guy is unarmed & has surrendered you are nothing but a cold blooded cowardly murderer. He should do a hell of a lot more time than 2 years. Sorry, that’s my opinion.

FactsRule on January 24, 2011 at 12:33 pm

Easy to say what he should have done later, the criminal may have attacked again given the chance or been talking quite a lot of smack. A cop once told me, just make sure he has one foot in the door before you shoot him. Guess that is the south versus the north.

CJ on January 24, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Smack talking is not a capital offense last I checked.

Napolean the pig. on January 24, 2011 at 3:08 pm

He was pushed into doing what he did because he was not being protected by the law. Considering how the law often operates, it would have been better for Croff not to co-operate with law enforcement, although that is what decent people are inclined to do. If criminals play the game that way, so should their victims. When the game is poker you can’t play pinochle.

Bernie Goetz on January 28, 2011 at 8:27 pm

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