September 14, 2005, - 10:01 am

Stop Making Fat Chicks Chic (They Aren’t)

By Debbie Schlussel
Yesterday’s Wall Street Journal had an article about yet another company, Nine West, that is making fashionable clothing for the gi-normous girl crowd. The article is entitled, “For Plus-Size Women, More Chic Choices.”
And that’s the problem. There shouldn’t be ANY “chic choices” for fat chicks. It isn’t hip or chic or cool to be fat. So why are we encouraging it? Everyday, a new chain like Horrid . . . er, “Torrid,” pops up with hammock-halters and thongs the size of the Brooklyn Bridge. Eeuuw!
Another thing: Why is it euphemistically called, “Plus-sized”? There is no such thing. There is fat and there is thin. Plus-sized means fat, plain and simple.
Unfortunately, the Wall Street Journal reports, “the plus-size apparel market is one of the fastest growing segments in retail, with U.S. sales up 4% over the past year to $17.4 billion.”
Remember that the next time you hear Hillary Clinton and other feminists whine about how skinny supermodels are making the country’s daughters become anorexic. Hardly.
The article tells us that “plus-size customers tend to have warmer body temperatures.” No way. You’re kidding.
Other parts of the article of note: the fat fashions are employing more “form-fitting” items. Don’t they mean “blimp-fitting”? There are some “forms” we just don’t need to see too much of. Fat designer “Abby Z” uses a size 18 as her base, from which she relies on three “models” who “carry their eight in different places.” If they worked out and watched what they ate, maybe there wouldn’t be a need for three different configurations of the calorically-endowed.
Time to stop making fat hip. It isn’t.

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This has got to stop. Everytime I see some overweight 46XY hippo walking around in low-cut jeans (or G_d forbid, shorts!) and a halter top, exposing their overflowing boilers I get sick. People need to remind these fat chics that just because a model wears these clothes, doesn’t mean they’re meant for every woman. Cover your fat asses up! Same rule applies in the gym. I don’t want to see your out of shape body exposed at all while youcontinue to fail to get in shape. Cover your fat asses up!

Yiddish Steel on September 14, 2005 at 12:21 pm

also the health benefits are ‘enormous’, to work at staying fit.And the gov’t health care money going to ailments caused by being fat are ‘huge’.

danny on September 14, 2005 at 1:28 pm

    Maybe if the government would invest its funds in prevention there wouldnt be as much obesity related disease. If gym memberships were affordable, healthy food costed less than fast food, and people were educated on the dangers of obesity America wouldnt be the fattest country in the world. But none of this is relevant to the down right ignorant post that is here. I am an average sized woman and have been a bit overweight before (never clinically obese) but i do know people that are fairly large. The chic clothes allow people who are a bit overweight to dress appropriately for their size, regardless of what got them to their size, they are there and now need clothes to honor that size. The average size in America is 12-14 so a store that starts their line at 18 is not necessarily aimed at the morbidly obese, lets face it some of those stores dont even carry sizes large enough for seriously heavy people. My point is this, if you dont want people who need larger clothes to dress in the appropriate size you are opening your obviously ignorant mind to experience people squeezing into sizes that dont fit and this is something else you just complained about (showing too much or rolling out of clothing) you cant have it both ways. The female body is something that’s so beautiful. I wish women would be proud of their bodies and not put down other women for being proud of theirs!

    sarah on April 19, 2010 at 10:30 pm

Is it irony that the google ads to the left promote shopping at “Plus-sized online stores”? Or is it just convenient that the Google robots can’t yet recognize Pro/Con debates? Who would advertise? Fat farms? FDA ignored supplement suppliers? “GoldenPalaceCasino.com”?

Reboots on September 14, 2005 at 9:55 pm

This post is just mean-spirited.
What would you like “Fat Chicks” to wear? If they dressed in Mu-mu’s I’m sure you’d have a problem with that too.
I am an overweight women who dresses respectfully. I will agree that all clothing styles should not made for all sizes but we have a right to clothing in sizes that fit our bodies. You can’t wave a magic wand and make “us” go away. Obviously, larger people need larger clothes and there is a market demand for stores that sell these clothes.
This post does not have anything to do with what overweight women are wearing. It is all about your hatred and discrimiation for women who do not fit your ideal of beauty.
Reality Check Debbie, America is not made of of blonde, fit barbie dolls.

Cheryl S on September 15, 2005 at 10:16 am

Ok,
First of all whether you are fat or skinny there are several different body types and shapes. Anatomy 101… They call them apple or pear shapes and so on because this is how the weight is distributed on ones body. So, skinny people as well as overweight folks and let’s not forget about those petites as well, are all shaped differently.
Now, I am like anyone else. I do not want to see an overweight person exposing flesh, ie. rolls of fat or wearing pants that look horrible out in public. I get embarrased for them. But that goes the same for women who are so anorexic thin doing the same thing. Got to love them women who have no rearend outside of a tail bone and they wear the skin tight pants that reveal what most people know as a skeleton, GROSSSSSS Seriously, have you ever seen one of the Olsen twins in jeans. (you will need a bag to hurl in) I however have not heard you mention anyone overweight that does dress appropriate. First you complain because they do not have enough clothes on and then you complain because they have too many on (ex: blimp comment) I would venture to say if I saw what you looked like I could pick 3 things I dont particularly care about thta are not the “norm”. The point is, could you or are you too worried about what everyone else looks like aside from yourself! Remember, bad things happen to good people and you could become one of THEM just as easily someday….

Susang on September 15, 2005 at 5:51 pm

Cheryl S, I’m fat, ugly and hung like a raisin. but guess what, what Debbie says is true. I got money and power and I bang hot looking broads, because I could afford it. Guess how much I spend on a night? $20.
Listen to Tom Leykis and you’ll realize that rich guys like me will get the hot 20-year-olds and not spend one dime. I have a sport coat made of $100 and I attract hot-looking broads. I date women as hot as Debbie.
Keep it up Deb, when you’re done what you’re doing honey, come bask with me and my wealth. Cheryl S. Wanna rich guy? Lose about 100 pounds.

KOAJaps on September 16, 2005 at 12:44 am

KOAJaps,
Not sure what your post has to do with anything…but you sound like a real prize.

Cheryl on September 16, 2005 at 11:52 am

Not only is it not hip but also unhealthy. I would
love to see these fat girls eating habits. I weigh
the same as I did 20 years ago, my idea of a snack is not chips and dip, fruits and veggies fill you up just as well and don’t stay forever.

zoostation on September 16, 2005 at 12:53 pm

Well, first off there is big and there is BIG. I mean there are plenty of big girls who are extremely hot out there. I will say though that BIG is not beautiful (externally anyway) and it shows a general lack of respect for ones body and a poor body image. I saw a girl who weighed more than me (240) the other day in spandex low riding with a thong showing. Oh—MA—God
Nothing like purple viens to turn a guy on, MMMMmmm,MMM

Uncle Tim on September 16, 2005 at 1:56 pm

Two things. I am 46 and have been thin all of my life because of exercise and moderation in diet and no I am not anorexic. Why is it that its ok for fat people to make comments about thin people but if comments are made about fat people they take offense.
I really could give a crap if someone wants to be big. Just don’t let it affect me. For instance I can’t stand it when a fat person sits next to me in a public forum be it airplane, bus, theater etc. and forces me to either move or be uncomfortable with the decrease in space. And please, I don’t want to see the cottage cheese butt through the spandex bike shorts. I don’t even wear that stuff. It seems that the big people wear the tight things more than the thin people. It can’t be comfortable.
I understand that obesity for most people is an addiction. Well I’m addicted to ciggerettes and I have to adhere to some guidelines to avoid offending people.

stardust43 on September 17, 2005 at 12:37 am

Means that, Guys and guys like me like skinny chicks, not fat broads. Why do you think we’re here? If Debbie were fat, you’d think we’d be here Cheryl? Debbie’s a hot piece of ass and we learn something new. So, I would rather spend my money going out with the boys than with a fat chick. If I find someone as smart and hot as Debbie, I woud marry her when I’m done partying…To share my wealth with her….not some fat tub of lard who’s large and in charge, watches Oprah and eats bons bons or has a Ph.D. because she couldn’t find a rich man to marry. Lose fat lard ass and maybe some guy will pick up on you. I mean a rich guy.

KOAJaps on September 18, 2005 at 12:21 am

re: KOAJaps
unbelievable!! & hurtful – is no one in your family overweight? do you have absolutely NO overweight friends? or are you to good for that? I just can’t believe someone could be such a prick, not only are you rude and ignorant but your insensitive, degrading and almost intolerable. Some of the things you say in your post are insane.. this is the filth you write?
Guys and guys like me like skinny chicks, not fat broads.<—chicks and broads? your intelligent.. not degrading at all..
Why do you think we’re here? If Debbie were fat, you’d think we’d be here Cheryl? Debbie’s a hot piece of ass and we learn something new.<—well i for one am so FUCKING glad you enjoy reading about nine west making clothes for fat girls.. god for bid you read something because you like the subject matter, what if the blog didn’t have an airbrushed flawless picture, would you still read? your a loser.
congratulations to Debbie for being a “hot piece of ass” what are you, 22? I’m sure she’s impressed, but come on frat boy! and you learn something to! a bonus!!! I know you dont care about what i think, but i think you better keep reading, because you still have a few things to “learn”.
So, I would rather spend my money going out with the boys (sausage fest? interesting..) than with a fat chick <— because she could never possibly have anything to say of any interest to such a stud like yourself… i would love to see your family photo..
If I find someone as smart and hot as Debbie, I would marry her when I’m done partying…(because im sure she is out there waiting for your dumb butt)
To share my wealth with her (im sure with your attitude, your a great business man.. NOT!)
….not some fat tub of lard who’s large and in charge,(hahahahahah that makes me giggle! jerk!)
watches Oprah and eats bons bons (are bon bons a real food, or is this a made up things rude guys say when there is absolutely no better come back? thanks for the input Al Bundy!)
or has a Ph.D.<– yeah cause not only do you have standards on weight but also on stupidity.. nice..
because she couldn’t find a rich man to marry…HAHAHAH.. an intelligent wealthy man has taste, class, and charisma.. (not all but most).. who knows.. maybe he might marry someone because of their perSONALITY? attitude towards life? passion for the same interests?
Lose fat lard ass and maybe some guy will pick up on you. I mean a rich guy. <—- your a jerk, you know nothing about this person.. get a life, i mean really get A LIFE..!

Haylee on September 19, 2005 at 1:48 am

Hey Haylee, did I struck a chord? My parents are dead and yes, I am fat :*(*** Boo frigging hoo. But it’s amazing Deb how broads like Haylee, who is probably a fat sow herself is pissed. Big deal. Am I to demean myself to date only fatsos? No frigging way. Of course Debbie is hot yet at the same time, I could sit down, talk to her about politics and that there is a positive. I don’t want to see an old sow chomping on bon bons, regurgitating her meals while talking about the plight of the world. I want to see an angel like Debbie, look at her amazing body and converse with her
It’s also amazing how someone who’s so defensive for fat chicks rights, who try so hard to convince others to given them tubbies a chance, swear…(Third paragraph: line three: Fourth word in your letter above to me). It really depreciates your Point of view and is cannon fodder for Debbie’s column.
“So, I would rather spend my money going out with the boys (sausage fest? interesting..) than with a fat chick <— because she could never possibly have anything to say of any interest to such a stud like yourself… i would love to see your family photo..”
What is it with you fatasses and food? Sausage fest? Even your cliches are in reference to food. My family are in Japan. My parents are dead (rest their soul) and live in a nice Jewish neighborhood called Pacific Palisades in the City of Los Angeles. Other than the actors, actresses as well as producers and directors, the Jewish folks here are great!
” your a jerk, you know nothing about this person.. get a life, i mean really get A LIFE..!” And you’re illierate. It’s you’re and guess what, I am a jerk who has a life and I know how fatties who eat patties end up. Smart, lonely and with 30 cats. Not like Debbie. I just finished as of Sept 19, 2005 @ 9:30 p.m. having a hot chick. She’s gone and is coming back next week.
So yes, I am a jerk and wear it on my shirt like a bage of honor. My scarlet letter ha a big “J” for jerk.
As for bon bons?
http://www.candydirect.com/search.php?keywords=bon+bons&image.x=0&image.y=0
Eat up chubby wubby

KOAJaps on September 20, 2005 at 12:43 am

    @koajaps For the record if you are going to get on someone and call then illiterate due to a typo…you should definitely check your spelling before submitting a comment back
    “So yes, I am a jerk and wear it on my shirt like a bage of honor. My scarlet letter ha a big ā€œJā€ for jerk.”
    BADGE and SCARLETT are both spelled wrong—just thought someone should point that out

    sarah on April 19, 2010 at 10:41 pm

It isn’t hip or chic or cool to be fat.
It isn’t hip or chic or cool to mouth off like a feckless jerk, but that sure didn’t stop you, did it, Debbie? :o/

AWG on September 20, 2005 at 2:12 pm

Why should it AWG? Why is it that I have to pay extra for fatass welfare recepients when they should be skinny and healthy. I have no insurance and I pay cash whnever I have to go to the doctor. And I got to the best…Cedar Sinai. I broke my ankle and needed surgery. I hobbled into C.S., had my surgery and therapy and walked out after dropping my credit card to the cashier. If there are any of you fat whores out there who can afford to pay thir own bills and not medicare or medicade, then be fat all you want. Neither the hard-working folks nor I want to pay for your bypass operation after eating like a slob. And I truly don’t think Debbie wants to pay either.

KOAJaps on September 20, 2005 at 5:26 pm

I think both sides on this have good points.
On one hand, considering that being (in most but not all cases) needlessly and avoidably overweight (and at young ages too!) is turning into a growing health crisis that is a increasing burden on society, I think it is way overly glamorized and encouraged in ways that shouldn’t be. If obesity were looked at by society the way smoking is, we’d see some real change.
But on the other hand, both Debbie and KOAJaps seem in this and other postings to take this issue to an extreme obsession that only confuses the issue.
Debbie, you make some good points here about society wrongly encouraging obesity, but then you use terms and words that are straight out of 4th grade playground. Given that you are a journalist I find this pretty surprising and it only turns me off from what good be some good points.
And KOAJaps, as you know, I usually side with you on your postings (and are probably closer to you in political viewpoint than I am to Debbie), but the impression I get (especially on this entry) is that you are rich. Does you realize this may be the main (and possibly only) reason you are “having hot chicks” as you say. It might be fun for now, but does it really feel good knowing that if you weren’t stacked with the green that that naked “hot chick” lying next to you would probably think of you in much the same way as you think of “fat chicks” and not even give you the time of day.
Just food for thought, no pun, honest.

hairymon on September 20, 2005 at 9:14 pm

I didn’t say Debbie didn’t have a point in regard to our culture encouraging obesity. I *did* take issue with her couching her arguments in the shallowest, most mean-spirited, most thoughtless way possible. Address the problem of our nation’s obesity problem if you will (please do! It’s a serious problem), but if you try the tack Debbie did you shouldn’t be surprised if people find your argument less compelling for it.
And KOAJaps? I don’t know you from Adam, but if I were to judge you solely based on the comments you’ve left in this thread, I’d be inclined to think you were… compensating for something (small penis/miserable childhood/latent homosexual tendencies/etc.). I’m not saying that, because I *don’t* know you, and it’s not my place (or interesting to me) to speculate. What I *am* saying is that regardless of the truth of your claims, your comments are making you come off as a self-aggrandizing asshole. What you do with that information is up to you. In any case, good day.

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Micaela Sanden on October 10, 2005 at 9:20 am

Debbie, why do fat people bother you? What did we EVER do to you? Maybe you need to look at yourself and ask what makes you so uncomfortable with fat people that you felt an urge to degrade them as a whole? Do you know any fat people? Obviously not. I guess only skinny people have a right to feel good about themselves. In your skewed vision, fat people should all be waddling around in muu muu’s hating and starving themselves to meet YOUR standards. Not ALL fat people gorge or live off of candy bars. Some of us who are considered obese by your insane standards are perfectly healthy. Writer Paul Campos in his essay, “The Weighting Game” reveals the fact that “large-scale mortality studies indicate that women who are 50 or even 75 pounds ‘overweight’ will on average still have longer life expectancies than those who are 10 to 15 pounds ‘underweight’ a.k.a. fashionably thin.”
You skinny, average, close-minded whiners need to stop lumping every large person into the same group with the extremely large gluttons with a serious problem. Not every fat person needs to be hauled out of their house with a crane, just like not every black person is a criminal and not every Middle-Easterner drives a cab. STOP WITH THE STEREOTYPES!! Why can’t fat be chic? What do you care? Do you feel threatened? Ah maybe that’s it. If fat women start becoming fashionable, then where does that leave you?
There was this German guy in the 1930s who thought that only those of the Aryan race were considered “chic”. What ever happened to that guy and his beliefs? People like you need to stop labelling people and making judgements based on appearances. If you are turned off by fat people, then don’t look at them. I personally loathe reality television. I could yell and scream and complain until I am blue in the face, but I can’t do anything about it. But I can turn off the TV.
You and all these commenters need to stop for a second and ask yourselves: why do I feel a need to bash fat people? We aren’t going anywhere. Fat people are here to stay. Get used to it.

thx1138 on October 14, 2005 at 4:20 pm

I think find this article repulsive. And for the record im not a fat person, or a woman. I actualy happen to be an extremly fit person who enjoys eating healthy and working out. But everyone is different and along with that holds different preferences. There is no one who holds the right to tell anyone to stop what they are doing becasue they dont feel thay are “chik”, if there is anything to critisize here, who the f#<k says chik. There are people who enjoy to eat, and even some who enjoy to gain weight. Showing this off comes with the territory. They enjoy this just as much, as you seem, to enjoy being a bitter, more than likely waif thin, bitch. On the same token, no one wants to see your clothing hanging from your assless, titless, curveless , boney ,skeleton frame. Have you taken a look at early artwork, all the women were full figured and womanly, not like these little girls strutting down the runway. The last thing a man wants is a sharp hipbone digging into him while hes close with you. Ful figured women show a precence of fertility, large childbearing hips and full breasts are attractive, and are the things that make a woman a woman. Real men are secure enough to addmit this. Abbs are for men, a soft curvy body is for a woman, this concept is nothing new. But more importantly how can you live with yourself knowing that you are part of the reason that causes many young girls these days to fall victom to eating diaorders, that normaly make things worse than they do better. My own girlfriend suffered from this(who was by no meens fatby anyones terms), and even though we are not still together, from time to time still does. People like you make me absolutly sick, go eat a carrot so you can impress you boyfriend who is with you because hes not secure enough to be with a real woman. Have a nice day.

not a member on March 2, 2007 at 1:01 am

Fuck you, bitch. Get off the internet.

Me on March 2, 2007 at 6:20 pm

Wow…you are quite posibly the biggest bitch I have ever read about. Thats ridiculous, I am an 18 year old male, and I can honestly say that I have never been more amazed at what a snatch people can be when they think they are better than someone else.
OOH! I have an idea, maybe we shouldn’t make clothes for black people, or maybe we should just chain up anyone who feels comfortable about themselves no matter what their shape is. I mean, they shouldnt be allowed to be comfortable right, they should all be thin…blonde…and have blue eyes…right?

googinheim on March 2, 2007 at 9:05 pm

As a handsome,54-year-old black lad,among the most interesting-and false-stereotypes about us is that we like fat-excuse me-”thick” women.Well,
perhaps some of us do,but I’m into buxom black
and blonde lasses.(By the way,where ARE you?)

QuiteALad on February 29, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Wow, this very well may be one of the most ignorant things I have EVER read. As someone else wrote “there are different body shapes.” I have a body which is comparable to Khloe Kardashian. Do you consider her fat as well? Of course you do, everyone does, but guess what, shes not she just has a different body shape then her sisters who are very petite! I’ve been larger and I carry my weight in my thighs and butt, I couldn’t wear the regular sized jeans and had to shop at those stores because nothing else would fit my hips. Maybe if we had some designers with actual brains instead of making clothing SMALLER AND SMALLER they would keep making clothing the same sizes. Which this also equates to a majority of the reason that there is such a growing market for these clothing stores. I can be a certain size in one brand but then go to another store and have to get a larger size… hmm.. go figure.

Karie on April 18, 2010 at 12:24 am

Responding in the same vein as your post: Hey skinny bitch, kiss my big fat lily white ass. Who the hell gave you the right to decide skinny was best? Maybe being slightly overweight is better in the long run. You got a PhD? You know FOR CERTAIN that your dumb ass working like a dog to shed that last vanity pound is healthier than carrying an extra 10? Didn’t think so. Get off your damn high horse and live in the real world, where not every body is created equal, and not everybody is as fucking vain and vapid as you are that we have to come in under the “ideal” range because, ZOMG, you might not be able to squeeze your bony ass into a size 4.

Responding as an intelligent, compassionate person: Yes, obesity is a problem in America, and it’s a sad one. So is anorexia and bulimia, which are also on the rise. A healthy view of our bodies and lifestyles is sadly lacking in this country, and you have a point that eating right and exercise should be the goal of every able-bodied person. But your post seems indiscriminate of those who are NOT obese. Those of us who are simply a bit overweight could fall under your umbrella of venom, and that’s not fair. Many of us work to lose those pounds but are unable, and short of a catastrophic diet plan, we probably never will. There has to be a balance between living one’s life for oneself and living one’s life just to lose those pesky 10 pounds. I, for one, accept that I have wide hips, broad shoulders, large breasts, and very large thighs. It’s how I was made. I can choose to take my sensible eating plan and moderate exercise to an extreme to make myself as skinny as humanly possible and potentially shed those last nasty pounds/inches, or I can enjoy my relatively healthy, active lifestyle. Please respect those of us who fall into the latter category. We’re not all ginormous fatties who sit on our couches eating bon bons.

Brianna on April 19, 2010 at 5:52 am

I couldn’t agree with this post more!!!! I am boycotting dove because of their stupid “real woman” campaigns and I find this plus model craze vomit inducing. Its not about the people, its about the lie, and the shameless promotion of accepting something that is not healthy. I can’t stand how curvy is the new euphemism for fat. People say its response to the skinny models but that’s a lie. People are fat because they eat too much and don’t work out. I am so happy you wrote this post. I feel like I am a dying breed of person who is revolted by this. You don’t have to be Calista Flockheart, but telling everyone to go into double digits as if its okay, and they havn’t even had kids yet?? HELLS NO!

Holly J on April 24, 2010 at 6:18 pm

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