February 28, 2008, - 12:05 pm

Pat Condell, Jew-Hater: Stop Sending Me Ignorant, Anti-Israel Englishman’s Anti-Islam Videos

By Debbie Schlussel
Many readers over the last couple of years have been sending me videos of Englishman Pat Condell. Please stop. I have never posted Mr. Condell’s work on Islam, which you’d think I agree with. I do. But here’s why I won’t glorify the work of Condell by posting it to my readers:
Pat Condell is no more than a more affable version of Christopher Hitchens. Like Hitchens, he hates all religions and sees them as morally equivalent to Islam. He’s said exactly that. And, more important, Condell is anti-Israel, virulently so. He’s among the many anti-Semites who claim they “love the Jews” but want Jews out of Israel. Americans fall in love with anyone with an English accent, no matter how backward his information is, and Pat Condell is Exhibit A of that. His sophistries about Jews, Israel, and Jerusalem are telling in their ignorance.

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Pat Condell
In a monologue video on the Jews, Condell starts out with the phony premise that he loves the Jews. But then he does a bait-and-switch that shows he actually hates them as much as the Muslims do. Condell says that the Jews have as much right to Germany as they do Israel. Wrong. He says there has never been a Jewish presence in Jerusalem and that it has always been a Muslim Arab city. Oh, really? I suppose the men who were kings over it and built the temple were King “Dawud” and King “Suleiman.” Puh-leeze. Jerusalem has always been a Jewish city. There has always been a Jewish presence there. Read my column, “Whose Jerusalem?” which answers the BS Condell spews on that issue.
Yet, the wholly wrong Condell has bought into the Arab Muslim propaganda that Israel was only carved out for the Jews as a response to the Holocaust and the rest of their propaganda.
If you jump all over the utterances of Pat Condell merely because you think he says the right things about Islam, you must ask yourself if you can accept his call for the Jews to be yanked out of Israel. His position and the HAMAS position are identical.
Is that your position?
Next time you watch the words of Pat Condell, be more of a critical thinker. He gets it completely wrong on Jews and Israel and religion in general. And, therefore, you can’t listen to him on much of anything else, no matter how right he may be about the Islam he wants to enable in Israel, but not in his cozy British home.
Bottom line: Pat Condell believes in, “Let the Jews eat falafel and homicide bombings, but let me continue with my bangers and mash in peace.”
Stop sending me his taped views. I couldn’t care less.
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If you are looking for someone with a smart-sounding English accent who is actually the real deal in the fight against Islamofascism, it ain’t Condell. It’s the great Melanie Phillips, coiner of the term “Londonistan” (title of her book) and a columnist for the Daily Mail. Much of what Condell decries in his videos was first reported and written about by Phillips. And her work is minus the anti-Israel propaganda and hatred. And frankly, she is the brave one over there in the UK, not Condell who takes the conventional Islamist view when it comes to the Mid-East.

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31 Responses

“Next time you watch the words of Pat Condell, be more of a critical thinker.”
Amen! As much as I’ve liked some of Hitchens views on Clinton and other things recently, his utter hatred of Christians is a major turnoff.
I think conservatives sometimes feel like we aren’t as “cool” as the libs who get the praise in the media that we latch onto these types for some type of validation.
Besides, I loathe the dishonest people who proclaim “they are all the same.” No, they’re not, and they would know better if they weren’t so biased.

Jeff_W on February 28, 2008 at 1:12 pm

I think all religions are the same. In that they are all equally fictitious .
However, I believe that people can think whatever they would like. I do not criticize them or think any less of them. I treat them just as I treat anyone else, and I never ask what religion they are. Simply put, I don’t care what they believe in or how they worship. They’re still just people to me.
However I begin to draw the line when people start killing innocent civilians because of their religious beliefs. I of course am talking about the religion of car bombs. If they’d like to fight each other, fine, natural selection, etc, but why do they insist on killing dozens of innocents in marketplaces? What does that accomplish?
Anyways, I’m rambling. I guess my point kind of was, don’t hate all the atheists, because we don’t hate everyone else. Or at least I don’t.

lolwut on February 28, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    If you think that are all religions fictitious, then why do you let people follow whatever religion they want and believe whatever they want? You don’t sound like a very tolerant person to me. Instead, you sound like a hypocrite in that you badmouth things that are never supposed to be badmouthed yet you’re okay with people following whatever religion they choose.

    If I were you, I’d keep my opinion about religion to myself and let religious people be. If you accept people being religious, then you better keep quiet about your badmouthing of faiths because certain people take that personally.

    anonymous on September 17, 2010 at 11:21 pm

Debbie, Melanie Phillips is really good. Last year I made a supercool pro-Israeli/anti-BBC type comment on a BBC story about their kidnapped journalist in Gaza, one out of nearly a thousand they published. It was voted the #1 or #2 most pouplar comment by other readers, and was on the BBC website for several days. Suddenly, one day my comment disappeared from the list while all the others remained. I complained to the BBC but they didn’t respond. I e-mailed MP about it and she replied to me that she wasn’t surprised.

Anonymous1 on February 28, 2008 at 2:21 pm

I think all atheists are the same.
“..we don’t hate everyone else. Or at least I don’t.”
Generalize and stereotype much?

Jeff_W on February 28, 2008 at 3:24 pm

Chris Hedges is worse than Christopher Hitchens it seems, because while Hitchens is against all religions, check out this article where Hedges lambastes Christians and defends Islamists against their Christian critics:
http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=1231

markjames on February 28, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    You’re wrong that Hedges is worse than Hitchens. Hitchens is worse because he’s biased against all religion while Hedges isn’t. I’m against people who are prejudiced against any religion. People have to respect religion whether they like it or not.

    Now don’t think of me as a fanatic. I’m not one. But I just get upset whenever anti-religion bias comes up and especially goes too far.

    anti-Christopher Hitchens on September 17, 2010 at 11:30 pm

Dear Debbie;
“He says there has never been a Jewish presence in Jerusalem, and that it has always been a Muslim Arab city.”
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
IS THIS GUY CRAZY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
King David…established it, ( Jerusalem), as the capital of the United Kingdom of Israel and Judah (c. 1000s BC).
That’s 3000 years ago, you abject moron!! (Not you Debbie)In other words, the Jews have living in Jerusalem, for one HELL of a long time.
It really amazes me sometimes, how absolutely stupid, and/or dishonest, some people can be.
Sincerely;
EJO

EJO on February 28, 2008 at 11:15 pm

To be fair all relgion have problems although some have more problems then others. I think both Judaism and Christianity have become extremely feminized and that is a problem. Judaism likely worse then Christianized although I think Judaism originally became feminized because Christians criticized Jews for being too harsh on women and rather then explain why Judaism isn’t that way they instead tried to compete with christianity to be more compassionate no matter what a women does or the fact that it hurts others. I guess from the Jesus story of the women coming adultry which Judaism views certain sins with similar contempt regardless of gender but Rabbinic Judaism doesn’t even consequences for a women marrying a nonjew and claims that they are going to raise THEIR KID JEWISH. I can no longer accept this line of reasoning for quite a number of reason including shafting Jewish man although I agree with Orthodoxy on most issues. Many Religiois Jewish women view Jewish men with the highest level of contempt and yet consider themselves super relgious and any time a women does something wrong it is ALWAYS somebody else’s fault and they are NEVER even held partly responsible for some of our problems which leads them to not learn ethical beahvior. At the drop of a hat they consider Jewish men irreligious. A high number of Orthodox Rabbi’s from what I have seen although not all really say viciosu about the average Jewish male. This has to have a demoralizing affect on Jewish men and I also know in Churches 61% who attend services are female. Furthermore, it is sad that very few RELGIOUS LEADERS have spoken out on the issue of fathers being shut out of their children’s lives simply because women can divorce a man and get his money but this is horrible for children and very mcuh against the bible’s idea of respecting BOTH your parents in general. When women are legimitely taken advange or abused religious leaders speak and rightfully so. Why the double standard I don’t know. But both Jewish and Christian leaders silence on this issue of fatherlessness with a few exceptions is very disturbing. I know many Jewish Orthodox Rabbi’s couldn’t care less and really enjoy REPLACING the father and being the male figure for the young women instead. I know many women who for friviilious reasons hate thier father and these sick Orthodox Rabbi’s and the community at large say nothing and they are considered upstanding members of the community and think they are family oriented.
THe other issue in Israel they DO NOT FOLLOW Rabbinic Law in who is a Jew and in this area I actually have to say I likely don’t agree with the Orthodx Rabbi’s although I likely agree with ORthodox Rabbi’s overall more then conservative or reform. So I honestly think that both Judaism or Chrisitianity would be better able to crticize other religons if they realize they are not perfect as well and I don’t think Rabbi’s are 100% right on certain views that may be good or may not be good but are not based on anything biblical. I think this overly feminized Judaism and Christianity does demoralize and wimpify nations and I think there needs to be a BETTER BALANCE. Islam is at the other side. It is sad no middle ground seems ot be there and I think are men will keep dying if are nation and our religious concepts don’t really show the proper respect to the men that make it hard for the men to fight as they have no reason to fight.

adam6275 on February 28, 2008 at 11:41 pm

Far from ignorant. Pat Condell is a well informed Brit that is flat out mad and absolutely correct. The intolerance for free speech that follows Islam and the PC BS that politicos use to make political hay is disgusting and unfortunately a reality. To bury your head in the sand is your choice. Living in a Pollyanna world is safe but thanks to people like Pat Condell you may never have to wear a Burka.

JHC: Another anti-Semite who hasn’t a clue. Pat Condell’s entire diatribe against Jews and Israel is completely false, ignorant, and uninformed. His views on Islam are informed from the same hatred of religion, not any kind of understanding of what Islam is about and why it’s bad. The guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. If I never wear a burka, it will have NOTHING to do with the ignorant Jew-hater Pat Condell who has done nothing to stop Islam, and everything to promote himself and his ignorance. I, on the other hand, have done far more to fight Islam, which you’d know if you were a reader of this site, instead of an ignoramus with a blind man crush on a failed Jew-hating comedian with an English accent. Pollyanna, indeed–right in your mirror. How many Muslims has he fought in court as I have (and defeated them)? How many free speech cases against Muslims has he fought (as I have)? Zero and zero, just like what he is–a big zero. DS

JH Chrestos on January 18, 2010 at 12:57 am

As a practising Catholic, I’m obviously no fan of many of Pat Condell’s views.

But that’s not the point.

Pat is perfectly entitled to make his videos and babble away on them. Long may he do so. He is, in my opinion, spot on about the malicious influence of Islamist extremists in Western society.

Freedom of speech doesn’t simply extend to people we agree with.

JJM: You clearly don’t get it. That he says what you agree with on Islam is not the point. The point is that he lied about Jerusalem, Jews, and Israel (lying about what is historical fact) and hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about on those or many other things in which he’s made misstatements. It’s also the case that he hates all religion. No-one is saying to curtail his freedom. But there is no reason any reasonable person should promote him. He should be ignored. DS

JJM on February 21, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    I agree with Debbie here. Just because someone is against Islam doesn’t necessarily mean he is right about every thing else. People need to learn to think for themselves. I would not want to enlist Pat Condell in the fight against Islam. He makes it very clear what he thinks about the Jews and Israel. My disagreement with him is one of complete principle. A point which many ignorant conservatives abandon at first blush when any one who superficially agrees with one of their causes jumps on their bandwagon. We need people who understand fighting the jihad means defending Israel and the West. If they don’t, then they undermine it. That is exactly what Condell has been doing and we need friends like him like we need enemies.

    NormanF on July 20, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    You traitor! How dare you support that bigoted Pat’s opinions! He’s misusing his freedom! Freedom isn’t supposed to be misused! It’s supposed to be used properly!

    I’d never support Pat’s entitlement to his opinions. Short may he do so.

    Pat Condell hater on September 17, 2010 at 11:24 pm

Thank you Debbie for getting me educated in regards to Pat Condell.

Steve H. on July 20, 2010 at 1:51 pm

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["Thank you Debbie for getting me educated in regards to Pat Condell."

Steve H. on July 20, 2010 at 1:51 pm]

Amen!

JeffE on July 20, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Proof please, not just Debbies own words as arguments. Link to some of what she is talking about!

sindre rudshaug on July 22, 2010 at 4:18 am

Thanks for the info: I found your article through David Appletree on JIDF. I’d only ever seen one of his videos, criticising Islamic extremism, and had thought it sounded good – but he’s obviously a bit of a Trojan horse. I couldn’t agree with you more about Melanie Phillips, though.

Ed on July 26, 2010 at 3:32 pm

I have watched several Pat Condell videos and I often agree with him, but like Christopher Hitchens , he gives himself away by a sort of nasty,bitter ranting about religion. Why is he so angry? In fact, his nasty side is useful as it makes you question his other stated opinions, but, but, he is correct sometimes. Like the Curates egg, he is good in parts.
Remember Beslan.

Ralph Pattison on September 1, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Are you serious? Pat’s blinded by his hatred of religion just as Hitchens is blinded by his. They’re both hypocritical whiners who are against religion. I wish those guys never existed. If they dislike religion, they should leave it alone instead of being prejudiced against it.

    anti-Christopher Hitchens on September 17, 2010 at 11:32 pm

      anti-Christopher Hitchens says:

      “If they dislike religion, they should leave it alone instead of being prejudiced against it.”

      By you’re logic, since you’re against Hitchens and Condell, you should just leave them alone instead of being “prejudiced” against them. You have to “respect” their views “whether they like it or not.”

      Unless, of course, there is one standard for the pro-religious and a different standard entirely for the anti-religious. But that sounds pretty Muslim to me.

      Frank on September 18, 2010 at 5:18 pm

As an observant Jew I like Pat Condell. I don’t think he is an anti-semite. I agree with most of what he says, I was a little upset about his ignorance about Jews and Israel. But in the scheme of things I think he is pretty sharp and on point. I don’t see him as any type of real threat to Jewish people.

Bomb on November 11, 2010 at 7:49 am

I just saw Condell’s What About the Jews tirade. It was disgusting. It seems he buys into the leftist viewpoint that
all religions are equally terrible while ignoring any and all
ideological differences between them. As little knowledge as
I have of the Torah/Tanak it seems to me that nowhere is a general genocide of unbelievers called for, unlike the koran and/or hadiths where such commandments are pervasive and explicit.

Doug on December 28, 2010 at 10:32 pm

May I humbly request reconsideration of the perspectives expressed in this space about Pat Condell, of whom I can’t remember ever hearing of, Chris Hitchens and others in the atheist and religion-bashing camp.

Many comments on this thread seize on the degree to which these folks express disdain for particular denominations and whom they seem most malevolent toward. I suggest that’s not the most relevant issue.

What ought to receive more attention is these individuals’ adherence to standards of conduct and truthfulness (truthiness?). Their tendency to nip at people’s heels is an annoyance, not a threat. We may not particularly comprehend antipathy to religious belief, but so what – that’s a subjective matter and we have no right to demand such comprehension. Let people believe in astrology or the divinity of Elvis Presley; what’s it to us?

What’s more importance is their allegiance to truth and their willingness to stand behind liberty for everyone as individuals. I’m no authority on Hitchens, for one, but every speech and interview of his that I’ve heard, every essay of his that I’ve read and every article about him that I’ve seen over many years reinforce the impression that however ornery and dismissive he may be, he anchors his beliefs and actions in defending the quest for truth and freedom for people (even at considerable risk to himself), regardless of how they may consequently use that freedom to support or attack religion.

Is he inclined to belittle the faithful, given the opportunity? Apparently. But if the world operated by Hitchens’ principles, not only would Israel be safe, but there would be no need for an Israel as the final bulwark of Judaism. Jews would be safe in all societies. And discussion and debate on all matters could be productive, constructive and relatively unrestrained.

From the sound of it here, Mr. Condell is mired in deception, and deception breeds worse ills. Civilized people should seek to refute his untruths accordingly, regardless of his mien.

Hitchens may be likened to the title character of the Fox television series “House”: Contentious, unpleasant, provocative, disrespectful. But in the final analysis, devotion to his mission trumps his shortcomings. He makes a major contribution. Isn’t that the way with the Churchills (not Ward) and John Adamses of the world?

Jerry Ernst on January 19, 2011 at 1:03 am

Debbie is correct.

The output of Hitchens, Condell, and Hedges is chock-full of ignorant anti-Semitism.

Philo-Semitic Atheist on January 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm

Debbie you are not equipped to understand much less criticize Condell with any degree of acumen. So yes, best you just leave it alone.

LeslieCz on May 22, 2011 at 6:02 am

Deb,

I see your point. I will no longer patronize Condell.
Actually I have been offended by many of his anti-Christian, anti-Jewish rants myself and I’m surprised I didn’t se the light then.
Thanks for reminding me.

al Kidya on August 2, 2011 at 7:36 am

Ok so maybe inacurasies with the Jerusalem vidio which was corrected in a latter one , but what I can’t understand is your
single minded tirade on this one episode , don’t you have any other real enemies to enlighten us about . There seems to be a pallalel theme with your’s and that of the JIDF diatribe to one
dictator of the 2nd WW . cause it’s easy just like it was then.

TJ on January 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I don’t understand why people put up with Pat Condell. I just don’t get it. He makes videos in which the only thing showing is his face as he talks. He’s not that pleasant to look at for five minutes, so that part is a mystery. But what really disturbs me is his hatred. Hatred is ugly, no matter what it is directed at, and it makes the face-filled screen an ugly thing. Hatred serves no useful function: it just spreads malice and divides people. I’m not religious at all, so I couldn’t care less if he criticizes religion. I just find his methods ugly and tedious.

Why are some people amused and entertained by hateful ranting?

Mary on February 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm

I have been following Pat Condell via his Youtube videos for close to two years.

He is pretty virulently atheistic, true.

I am a “born again”, Fundamental Christian who counts Jews as my spiritual brothers and sisters, which is actually what the early Apostles made plainly clear. If you LOVE JESUS then you are spiritually a Jew, a branch of the Jewish tree. To condemn Jews is to condemn your own God, your own Savior.

Now, to Pat Condell. What I LOVE about Pat Condell is his vehement denunciation of the new Anti-Zionism, his defense of Israel and its right to exist, and his denunciation of all who oppose the right of Israel to exist peaceably.

Look at his latest Youtube video (as I see it today) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXMe_R2BZk&list=UUWOkEnBl5TO4SCLfSlosjgg&index=1&feature=plcp

As a deeply committed Christian I am not going to throw Pat Condell to the wayside because he criticizes my faith.

More importantly, he has the courage to take on the unassailable — criticizing Islam for its relentless assault on Jews. And pointing out the hypocrisy of people who will accept the Holocaust as historical reality yet will cut Israel no slack whatsoever. Pat Condell points out their hypocrisy as masked Anti-Semitism.

Pat Condell defends Israel more strenuously than many famous and infamous Jews.

David H on April 10, 2012 at 10:10 am

Responding to Condell with a charge of ‘anti-semitism’ is sheer madness. He’s explained that Jews have contributed far more to society, how Israel is disproportionately criticized by an anti-semetic media, that Israel gives more freedoms to Arabs than Arab states themselves. It is true he is anti-religion, but states that Jews ‘just want to be left alone’. So it makes them the most attractive of the faiths. He further has said that Jews cannot trust the world to come to its defense, and therefore should be for a ‘strong Israel’. He has thoroughly diminished the hypocrisy of the Palestinian plight. He is completely consistent in what he says, and what he says is that he is pro-freedom, pro-Western values. Clearly, he places Israel in the pro-Western camp. This is irrefutable, and only slight criticism has you denouncing him, which is beyond baffling.

Jameson on April 10, 2012 at 12:10 pm

Another extremist hard-liner who thinks opposition to a few of the many policies of a secular ethno-nationalist government are the same thing as hating an entire race of people, and that’s coming from a member of that people. Disgraceful.

Me on July 17, 2012 at 11:02 pm

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