April 22, 2011, - 7:00 pm

WTF?!: Dearbornistan Jury Requires Terry Jones to Pay “Peace Bond” to Hold Protest; Bond is $1; Jones Refuses to Pay, Arrested!

By Debbie Schlussel

It’s official.  We’ve lost America.  A Dearbornistan jury just found (at about 6:42 p.m.) that Pastor Terry Jones must pay a “peace bond” of thousands of dollars in order to hold his planned protest in front of the Islamic Center of America mosque in Dearbornistan. But District Court Judge Mark Somers charged Jones only $1 in bond, which he’s refused to pay, and has now been arrested and put in jail. Huh? I told you Jones wanted to be a martyr. But he shouldn’t even have to pay $1. Free speech is free, thus the adjective in front of the word, “speech.”

As I write this, it is just over two hours AFTER the time that Jones was to hold his protest, but, instead, he’s been on trial for prior speech and future speech in one of the most unconstitutional trials I’ve ever seen (I watched much of it on live feed broadcast over the net).  The protest was to take place at 5:00 p.m. Eastern, today, and now that won’t happen, as the judge, Judge Mark Somers, just returned to set the amount of the bond. He set it at $1, which Jones refused to pay, so he’s been arrested and put in jail.  The whole thing is one humongous outrage.

Jones had said he would come back and hold his protest, originally planned for today, next week.  And, again, it’s clear to me, he just wants to be a martyr.  Neither he nor a colleague from his church who was also on trial today wanted to poll the individual members of the jury.  The judge repeatedly offered them to preserve several objections for appeal,  appeals they likely would have won, ultimately.  But they declined each time.  They didn’t want to win this.  They just wanted to be martyrs, and it sets a bad precedent for the rest of us. And with their refusal to pay even the $1 bond, that’s clear, even if it is out of principle. Still, they shouldn’t have been required to pay one red cent. And the fact they were arrested for refusing to pay is an outrage. I wish I could represent them, but alas, the Jewish Sabbath is about to start for me.

Regardless of the small amount of bond the judge imposed, it’s a very sad day in America that there was a trial at all, and more so, that a jury said you have to pay for the privilege of exercising your First Amendment speech rights if you burn a Koran.  Say good-bye to our freedoms, slowly but surely. Free speech is no longer free, even if a judge says you only have to pay $1.

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90 Responses

On the Sabbath, you are allowed to break it to save a life. Does representing Jones apply to that rule? Free speech doesn’t call one dollar. I like what he did.

jewishinfidel on April 22, 2011 at 7:15 pm

I would never pay such a bond. Not even a $1. I would tell the judge to stuff his unconstitutional authority where the sun don’t shine.

And I’d happily go to jail out of principle. My rights are not for sale by our government.

That’s the real outrage that happened today.

NormanF on April 22, 2011 at 7:17 pm

I hope he gets rigorously sodomized.

haveacoke on April 22, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    You are scum, haveacoke.

    Rhymes With Right on April 22, 2011 at 8:48 pm

      AGREED!!!!!!!

      Just Me on April 23, 2011 at 3:07 pm

I’m no fan of Terry Jones but you are despicable.

Your comment reveals much about the state of our country today.

NormanF on April 22, 2011 at 7:33 pm

I hope he sues the shit out of Dearborn. He may be crazy, but he’s crazy like a fox.

Flicka on April 22, 2011 at 7:34 pm

Well Norman, I hope you get the opportunity to tell a judge to shove something up his ass soon.

And then my friend, i hope you are rigorously sodomized as well.

haveacoke on April 22, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Haveacoke, four-letter words is a sign of your oozing out of slug alley – not that I respect where you come from.

    What’s your view of the Jizya tax the judge ordered Jones to pay to Islam?

    On second thought, I’d rather have you pay it than Jones. It would be most fitting, indeed!

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 2:46 am

This trial is an outrage. Particularly given the recent SC ruling regarding hate filled protests at Christian and Jewish funeral services.

pat on April 22, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    The government can’t prevent people from desecrating a funeral service.

    But we have the right to keep them away from it. Its called freedom of association.

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 11:38 pm

Agreed Flicka, Mr. Jones (who I am not a fan of for his usurpry) should sue the city of Dearborn millions or billions of dollars for what they did to him. He has to pay a $1 dollar bond to exercise his fundamental rights? Are you effing kidding me? So are you freaking telling me that in order for us to exercise any of our rights we have to pay some type of bond? This is a friggin joke, I swear to god (this article really ticked me off and I would love to write stuff I really mean, but I’ll hold it inside me for what Dearborn did to Terry Jones). As for that poster who posted at 7:27 pm this evening, your a phucking schmuck, grow the hell up you moron, I to find your comment embarrassing and despicable, and your one of the reasons why have Obama as president right now.

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on April 22, 2011 at 8:06 pm

Guaranteed, this could only happen in Dearborn,Michigan.
Very sad day for free speech, Where is the ACLU Today?

john on April 22, 2011 at 8:19 pm

John, speaking of the ACLU, the ACLU to their own credit (I’m no fan of the ACLU) came to the aid of some guy in New Jersey who last summer burned a few pages from the koran (some of the folks call the koran hateful) and was fired a day later. Guess what, that same guy who lost his job from the NJ Transit got his job back today and the ACLU came to his defense and said that the NJ Transit was wrong for firing that guy because he exercised his 1st amendment rights. So it’s not quite a bad day in this country, yes Mr. Jones had to pay a bond to demonstrate infront of that koran-thumping-fanaitcal mosque but on the flip side, a guy in NJ got his job back despite burning a few pages from the koran.

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on April 22, 2011 at 8:31 pm

Our Republic is in the 11th hour. Midnight will be the darkest hour. I fear it is coming soon. Very soon.

Dr Dale on April 22, 2011 at 8:39 pm

Sadly ironic that, on the day Christians mark the Crucifixion of Christ after a rigged trial, the state of Michigan has crucified the First Amendment with an equal amount of due process.

Rhymes With Right on April 22, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Very well said!!!!!!!!!!

    Just Me on April 23, 2011 at 2:59 pm

DS,

The behavior of the Dearborn police and especially this judge (who in this role is also in charge of the jury and the instructions given to it) are so egregious that it is entirely possible that they might lose any defense of qualified immunity, should Jones decide to sue them civilly, on the basis that they have violated Jones’ clearly established constitutional rights. This would proceed from the USSC’s 1982 Harlow v. Fitzgerald decision.

I do realize the judges ordinarily are given absolute immunity when acting in their official capacities, but how could these rulings ever be considered official since they depart so drastically from established law in these areas.

Gayle Spencer on April 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Gayle, did you not know that the facts are on the moon all public trials? What is Truth? It’s all a dog and pony show to give people the illusion that they are getting a fair trial.
    Did anybody honestly think that Jones would get a fair trial in Dearbornistan?
    How many of the jurors were Muslim and worship Islam/Muhammad?
    Everything was rigged from the beginning.
    Even the court reporter had drapes on her head!
    It was all just a show-trial like in the old Soviet Union, nothing more, nothing less…

    Who cares? on April 23, 2011 at 9:20 am

    The Civil Rights Act Of 1866 prohibits government officials from depriving a citizen of his rights under the color of law.

    Jones has a very good legal case here and he’d probably win it. But our officials are afraid of offending Islam.

    It doesn’t matter whether or not he presses a claim. Islam is just too politically correct for any one to go near it.

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 11:42 pm

      There’s nothing colorable about it. It’s Sharia Law.

      What law is Dejure? What law is colorable?
      What law is defacto?

      Who cares? on April 24, 2011 at 9:14 am

Dearborn local paper

http://www.pressandguide.com/

john on April 22, 2011 at 9:03 pm

Dear Sean R.

“I to find your comment embarrassing and despicable, and your one of the reasons why have Obama as president right now.”

Proofread much?

(That’s a rhetorical question, please don’t over exert yourself coming up with a snappy retort)

haveacoke on April 22, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Your retort is a lame insult?

    Please, lower your rhetoric. I’m waiting to see how Debbie deals with your posts after Shabbat.

    Bring it on!!!

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 2:49 am

Jones paid the bond. Judge imposes 3 year ban on protest. Will amend ban if mosque imam agrees. So, constitutional rights now subject to discretion of religious figures. This judge just annulled the constitution and the bill of rights.

adam on April 22, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    You now need Islam’s permission to demonstrate against it?

    How lovely!

    Yup, the First Amendment was annulled tonight by judicial diktat.

    Welcome to Dhimmistan, America!

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 2:52 am

Hey haveacoke, is it ok if I call you “Norman Blitzer”? You remind me a little of that fool, and how’s that a rhetorical question? I didn’t ask you a question, I just made a comment, that’s all, RIF!

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on April 22, 2011 at 10:04 pm

Haveacoke-binge, go take a walk.

You won’t last long here throwing your ad hominem attacks with no substance at the sites two seasoned and brilliant regulars.

Instead of a coke, go have a nice, steaming cup of STFU. You have nothing to offer to the debate except your bomb-throwing. And you’re boring.

Skunky on April 22, 2011 at 10:18 pm

I plan on going to Shipshewana, Indiana and protesting the Amish.
It’s gonna be crazy.
The media.
The security and law enforcement presence.
It’ll be great watching the Amish nut up…
Who’s in?

westwardwanderer on April 22, 2011 at 10:44 pm

In honor of all the MEN (no chicks, sorry) who died in combat fighting for this country, it is truly a sad day. If Terry Jones were dying of thirst I wouldn’t let him drink the sweat from my testicles, but this goes way beyond my disgust for him. Our once proud country is gone..

#1 Vato on April 22, 2011 at 11:22 pm

Pastor Jones is completely in the right.
He has certainly proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that muslims are scum sucking pigs. And the dhimmies that enable the violent, hateful, misogynist baby raping, stoning and beheading
followers of a book crafted by satan ought to be ashamed of themselves. Do they think if they stand up for muslims that they won’t be killed? Have they read the koran, a stone age hateful, intolerant book of repressive government? I don’t consider islam a religion, it’s more of a mental disorder of inbred, mush brained koranimals.

sablegsd on April 23, 2011 at 2:36 am

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God? hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty.
1 Corinthians 1:27:

/Ms. Schlussel – Please forgive me Ma’am for the following comment for I do not know of what I write, but here goes:
I do not know of Jewish law, but if your late father, an MD (ophthalmologist) would not let patients become blind during the Sabbath, is it not OK for you to heal a country?

Jew Lover on April 23, 2011 at 3:37 am

Quote from another site: The development came after a jury found a proposed protest by Jones and his associate Wayne Sapp outside the Islamic Center of America, the largest mosque in the United States, was likely to breach the peace and incite violence.

By this logic, the government now has decided what color clothing we can and cannot wear. Bloods and Crips, red shirts or blue tops, we MUST NOT wear the wrong colors in LA and other places lest this lead to violence.

Jew Lover on April 23, 2011 at 5:35 am

They can go after the Web next.

Can Debbie’s site be shut down for “breaching the peace and inciting violence?”

Its a good question. If the government thinks your speech on the street is worthy of shutting you up, why not do it in the virtual world as well?

That, I am afraid, is just a matter of time now.

NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 8:08 am

No matter what you all say, this had more to do with peace and respect than it did with free speech! The antichrist, terry jones,was offered 4, i said 4, other areas in which to spew his hate. Those areas include the front steps of city hall. He refused. He only wanted to be in front of the mosque! Wonder why???His messages are all about hate for others unlike himself. Debbie, you speak of the sabbath, how would you feel if you went to synagog (sp) and people showed up to protest your religion wearing full nazi uniform? Or if some nutbag burned your torah, just because his interpretation of it meant it was wrong? This is about respect and treating others the way god would want us to. People here, look, it’s a great big world out there, things are changing everyday, I am a mother of many kids and frankly, it scares the crap out of me, but the only thing I can do, and do everyday, is teach my kids that we are all the same inside, we all come from one creator, respect others opinions,religions, heritage. Stand up for those you see wronged.Terry jones could have come here and said what he needed to say at any of the four sites offered him, he chose to ignore the law, he chose to fight. The people of Dearborn stood up to him and he lost. Now I hope he goes away quietly. I will pray for his soul, that god helps ease his obvious pain. There is no room for haters here at our mosque or at our churches. We should all remember that with people like Terry Jones, you could be next!

karen naim on April 23, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Ah, no Karen. Regardless of all your blather it is about FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE BILL OF RIGHTS, and the US CONSTITUTION. PERIOD!!!!!

    If you’re an American, shame on you for NOT getting it.

    Skunky on April 23, 2011 at 9:16 am

    You don’t understand.

    Jews can keep Nazis out their neighborhood or from demonstrating in front of the synagogue because private institutions and individuals don’t have to associate with or hear any one they don’t like. That kind of prior restraint is perfectly constitutional and appropriate.

    All the Constitution forbids is the government from imposing prior restraint on free speech. Its one thing if the mosque wanted to keep Jones off its property. That’s its right. What’s wrong is the government has no business censoring any one even for what seems like a good reason. That is why we have the First Amendment.

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    @karen:if the tenents of my faith were to slash the throats of unbelievers and some one wanted to say I was a murderer,the of course I would be offended,how dare they protest and picket in front of our future, murderous jihadists little ones? How dare some one say we are wrong? ma’m yours is not a religion of peace,judaism or christianity adhering people are not out there calling for the killing of non believers,your leaders here and overseas do just that,I do not for one second equate your so called religion to christianity or judaism,yours is a religion of blood,oppression,abuse and everything evil in it,if it was upto me,it is the one religion that would be outlawed….damn savages moooslems.

    Juan on March 1, 2012 at 7:50 pm

For all intent and purpose, freedom in the US was dead and buried at Ground Zero.
The nail in the collective coffin came after Islamists proved that they could bury 3,000 US citizens, yet barely receive any backlash from a terrified public and their leaders.
Consider:how is it possible that so called ‘Islamphobia’ never really materialized, yet many American leaders are cowed into submission without even laying a hand on the Muslim community?In fact, the deferential treatment given to Muslims is beyond the pale.
Be that as it may, one can agree or disagree with Jones, but one CANNOT deny him his Constitutional right to protest, or burn a Koran.The very fact that leftists and their Islamic counterparts burn US flags AND piss on Christian symbols, yet are NOT denied their right to do so, tells us all we need to know.
Dhimmi American leaders/institutions have submitted!Case closed.

Adina Kutnicki, Israel on April 23, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Well said, well said Ms. Kutnicki.
    We have a pathetic group of dhimmis serving at every level of government and the judiciary.
    I can conclude only this, that the majority of people do not know nor do they understand history, especially the history of the islam.

    Cheryl S. on April 23, 2011 at 11:41 pm

Karen

You miss the point of a protest. Union members protest legislation at the State Capital. Pro-Life people protest outside of abortion clinics. How could Terry Jones protest Islamic violence at City Hall? City Hall is not (or should not be) a symbol of Islam. That is why he wanted to be in front of a mosque. He chose Dearborn because it’s the largest in the US.

As to your point of how would it feel to have others protest your religion, this is routine to Christians. In art, the crucifix has been desecrated in all manners (think ants, urine). In music there are numerous examples of disrespect and attack (think Madonna , Lady GaGa). In film you have the dumb, southern Baptist, corrupt, minister and the pedophile priest. There have been many books and movies exploring the theory that Jesus was a hoax (think the DaVinci Code). Gay activists attack Christians and Church leadership for their stance on homosexuality. With so many examples, I’m not sure why you think we should fear “you could be next”? So many others have already been there.

I, too, am a mother. I teach my children that they are responsible for their own actions. My 5 year old got in trouble at school for hitting another student. It did not matter what the other child said or did, my child needed to control his anger and was punished by the school (no recess).

There will always be someone who says or does something that another finds offensive. We have all been guilty of offending, intentional or unintentional. As adults we should be able to handle that offense without violence or destruction. Why can’t we expect the Muslims of Dearborn to control their actions and react peacefully?

Why is it my 5 year old is held to a higher standard than Muslim adults?

Julie, Michigan on April 23, 2011 at 10:12 am

I guess I must be really confused.. How in the hell does a city, within a county, within a state hold it’s own trial and plan it before the individual arrives? He did not have a jury of his peers,( I am assuming his peers would have been infidels).. Oh my goodness this is a bananna republic.

sharon on April 23, 2011 at 10:56 am

Hey White and Jewish Leftists,and (Black)Muslims:

WHAT “Uptight,White,Christian Fascist America”?
WHAT “Racism”?
WHAT “Systematic Oppression”?
WHAT “Unfairness”?
WHAT “Double Standard”?

Phineas on April 23, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Anybody attend an “offensive to no one” Black Panther rally today ?

http://www.dayofactionmovement.org/

John Prewett on April 23, 2011 at 1:38 pm

If you went to the Black Panther rally, you might have heard these gentlemen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrKtoHYPsE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvPCy7OBRw&NR=1

I didn’t hear of them having problem getting permits in any of the sixty cities they rallied in. Presuming they even bothered to get permits.

John Prewett on April 23, 2011 at 1:42 pm

IN AFGANISTAN, YOU’LD BE KILLED FOR SPEAKING YOUR PROTEST. BUT IN DEARBORN, YOU’LD BE ON TRIAL BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT IT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. HOW MANY COPS WHERE OUT PRESERVING AND PROTECTING THIS GUY’S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH? I SAW DOZENS OF COP CARS OUT THERE ON TV…

HEY SURE TERRY JONES BEARS A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO YOSEMINE SAM, BUT THEN THAT MAYOR LOOKS ALOT LIKE JABBA-THE-HUT.

SEND IN THE CLOWNS; THE CIRCUS IS IN TOWN.

JIMMY on April 23, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Why didnt YOU go pay his bond Debbie? i’m thinking it’s bcz you’re a typical zionist pig and are too cheap to part with even a dollar. I love free speech. You and your little puppets got a katyusha shoved up your ass. Next time you little yahoodi sharmootah, you come to dearborn yourself and do your own dirty work, if you have the guts. instead of being a keyboard warrior. and a fugly one at that. Still wont get over the fact that your husband left your for a Muslim woman.

Amy on April 23, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    @ Amy.
    You are obviously new here or a slow learner. Ms. Schlussel parts with tens-of-thousands of dollars each year helping other in pro-bono (free legal representation).
    She loses hundreds-of-thousands of dollars doing the research that other “professional journalists” should be doing and then they take her research while keeping their salary.

    If you read the “about Debbie” at top of blog, you’ll see she exhibited more guts than many as she successfully infiltrated mosques, quote: “In 1998, Schlussel went undercover, dressed as a religious Muslim woman, to the Islamic Center of America, North America’s largest mosque, and reported, in The Detroit News on its support for terrorism, and anti-American, anti-Semitic hate. She was interviewed and quoted by Rolling Stone about the mosque and its radical imam, Hassan Qazwini, who is frequently consulted by President Bush and was invited to his Crawford, Texas ranch. Qazwini was embarrassed by the radical speakers and anti-Semitic hate he fostered in his mosque, and refused to address it in newspaper interviews. Schlussel was even attacked for her work on terrorism by movie critic Roger Ebert in a 2005 syndicated movie review.”

    Instead of picking on a woman, come over to CrazyIslam. We have drop down menus for hate mail/death threats and we NEVER, NEVER report them to authorities.
    http://crazyislam.typepad.com/home/blog-posts/

    ..and Amy, why do you pretend to be a woman when you’re a man?

    Jew Lover on April 23, 2011 at 4:47 pm

      JL, A person with an androgynous name can either be a man or a woman. But in Amy case, it doesn’t matter.

      She implies Debbie can’t observe the Sabbath cuz she’s a Jew but would have no problems with someone observing Easter Sunday.

      What would you call it?

      NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Amy, you’re a sharmuta. That’s for your language and then for your blatant anti-Semitism. We won’t have that here and your pan-Islamist blathering on the site. Take it elsewhere.

    Bye!

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 4:50 pm

Shouldn’t the Mosque be depositing the peace bond? They are the primitives that seem unable to coexist.

pat on April 23, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Amy, another bomb thrower with no substance.

We don’t buy your shiite here. Take a walk!

Skunky on April 23, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Norman, please do me a favor and die.

If you can’t even read, why argue?

haveacoke on April 23, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Stay classy with the death threat, haveacoke.

    You’re a troll.

    Get lost!

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:01 pm

Oh and by the way, banning me from a site that has 15 participants won’t really affect my afternoon.

haveacoke on April 23, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Judging from the responses on here…. its been an interesting subject.

    If you don’t like us much, being here hasn’t done any wonders for your intelligence.

    I don’t think its necessary to ban you since you aren’t worth being given attention to.

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm

Sad, sad, sad that 1) a jury would say one needs to have a bond for “possible riot” by miscreants, and 2) a judge feels sanctimonious for lowering the bond to one dollar. I bet A.N.S.W.E.R and CODE PINK do not get these requirements when they have their protests.

Debbie I know you love Detroit but anyone with money and common sense, get the he’ll out of there. Rush once called it New Fallujah and he was right with this ruling. I am just waiting for the day the Islamic moon crescent flag is flying over it instead of the state flag of Michigan.

Mario on April 23, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Its happened. If we want to demonstrate against Islam, we must pay a jiyza tax in the future for the privilege.

    Think it can’t happen here again? The precedent’s been set.

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:12 pm

Hi Skunky, you can eat me as well.

haveacoke on April 23, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    LOL. Get lost. You have nothing to add but invective. Go choke on them.

    Skunky on April 23, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    I like Skunky far better than I like you.

    You are a classic troll. Get your jerk-off elsewhere!

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:05 pm

You don’t protest against Starbucks infront of McDonalds. If he wants to protest against radical Islam, he should have bought a plane ticket to Kabul.

Allie on April 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm

Hey Amy, I have an advice for you you neo-nazi skank, go to stormfront.org and type more of your anti-semitic hatred you loser. BTW Amy, Debbie is a spiritual jewish woman, she doesn’t do any type of work on the evening prior to the sabbath, that’s why she couldn’t help Mr. Jones, didn’t you read the whole article word for word instead of throwing ad-homieimn attacks against DS!

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on April 23, 2011 at 7:05 pm

John Prewett, I saw that website from the Black Panthers, as a black male, the Black Panthers are an embarrassment to blacks like myself and millions across this country. I detest the Black Panthers with a passion, those racist and hateful POS’s don’t speak for me nor they don’t represent me as a black man either. So guess what folks, I bought stuff from non-black business today, and I will continue to do it for the rest of the weekend, so to cowardly and racist Black Panther party, I’ll give you losers a “bronx-cheer”, F**K YOU Black Panther party!

“A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on April 23, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Forget it people. “Amy” is a Muslim male (you can tell by the repressed sexual anger). As such he is a cultist. Dangerous in numbers. A coward when conditions are equal.

pat on April 23, 2011 at 8:38 pm

I just found out that in Greece a synagogue had its sacred Torahs and sacred books burned. As disgusting as this is you won’t see Jews foaming at the mouth and burning churches or mosques in revenge. Do we stand up to Islamic intollerance and say enough is enough, grow up and move on or do we submit?
Pastor Jones may be extreme, and showing poor judgement in past, but in USA he did not break any law.

Allen on April 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Burning books or burning flags may be juvenile behavior but the Supreme Court has held desecrating revered symbols amounts to sending a constitutionally protected message.

    Unless its Islam and then all of a sudden we’re told we can’t offend them. I call it the Great Exception to the First Amendment.

    NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:16 pm

As I understand it, the reason Pastor Jones and his associate were being charged a ‘peace’ bond was so that those two folks would not, themselves, riot and create damage.

Sure, two guys against an entire MoMob. Uh, huh.

The truth, of course, is that it would have been Muslims doing the rioting!

But not only were those most likely to riot not required to post such a bond, so-called Muslim leaders gave their assurances (which they have no authority to enforce) that–because Muslims love America and freedom of speech–’the Muslims’ would behave. But, let’s be honest, who of ‘the Muslims’ would have been responsible to provide such a bond?

But why, then, would Jones have needed to post a $1 bond in order to receive the permit he sought, and why was he jailed for refusing to accept that burden? As they say, what’s up with that?

A lot of things ain’t adding up here.

I, too, think Jones may be crazy like a fox, and I hope he files an appropriate law suit; not merely to seek redress of the grievence caused by having his right to freedom of speech denied, but to shine a bright light on the favoritism and bias toward Islam by our supposedly secular legal system.

PRCS on April 23, 2011 at 9:52 pm

Woh, boy. Looks like the trolls have discovered Debbie and are worried enough to spend their afternoons dropping excrement on her site.

I wish we’d all stop saying we disagree with Jones or that he’s a jerk. The act of burning a book is ho hum. It is NOT a sacred relic just because some 7th-century minded misguided folks consider it so. The two giant Buddhas that cannot be replaced, that were thousands of years old, are one thing. A book that is mass-produced and in a language most people don’t even read is not (not to mention the fact that it’s a book of hate supposedly be someone who sounds like a sociopath.)

The military tells Gitmo guards to handle the koran with gloves and “with reverence.” WHAT? I don’t “revere” that book, and I’m sure our soldiers don’t either. It’s just another case of buying into muslims shit.

Enough. If they want to buy into our system, MAYBE. if they have something special to offer and show they’ve left their hate (including giving money to terrorists) behind, MAYBE we’ll agree. But as long as they keep up this “Honor what we honor or die,” we don’t need ‘em.

Chris Christie’s dhimmihood has destroyed any chance he ever had of a presidential run. People here are truly sick of this.

impeachthedude on April 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    The feelings of savage murderers would be hurt by our words? I didn’t know Islam took an affront to indelicate language.

    If you have seen how they can mutilate and gut a human being, well there is no language to describe it.

    Its not fit for adults and children!

    NormanF on April 24, 2011 at 6:39 am

Muslims burn their own holy books and the mobs don’t go rampaging in the streets at Islamic Rage Boy’s instigation.

That happens only when the infidels do it.

NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 10:08 pm

With this ruling which should be overturned, it proves that the city officials are scared to death of the savages within. I am also reminded of the saying which is proving to be rather prophetic, silence our voices and the next thing you will hear will be the sound of our rifles.

Drakken on April 23, 2011 at 11:11 pm

I don’t think the ruling is going to be overturned. Remember, the rule is different when it comes to Islam.

Its a taboo subject.

NormanF on April 23, 2011 at 11:34 pm

Dear Debbie,

Terry Jones is fighting fire with fire. What did Patrick Henry say…”give me liberty or give me death”? This is the attitude we have to have as Americans when you are fighting these Islamists and their brainwashed dhimmis. Unless you put your butt on the line and protect Free Speech it will be lost to the entire West.

My dearly departed grandfather (who survived the Nazi and Soviet Invasion of Poland in 1939 and WWII in the far east) once summarized to me his war time experiance: that people will sell their liberty for the price of a cheap whore. This is evident of the court and the ruling of the judge and jury. What an obscene unconstitutional travesty–a show trial. May they all be cursed.

DH: No, actually, he didn’t fight at all. He didn’t have a lawyer and did all of this to become a martyr and raise more money in a bigger lawsuit he will now file with the most inept, fradulent bunch of lawyers ever, the Thomas More Law Center. He could have defeated this with a real lawyer, had he chose. But he wanted to turn this into martyrdom and fundraising for himself, and he succeeded. DS

Doc Holiday on April 24, 2011 at 12:56 am

    I agree with Debbie….

    But still the climate is not ripe for what America needs to do in the future.

    And every one knows it.

    NormanF on April 24, 2011 at 6:30 am

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