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> <channel><title>Comments on: So, Two Polygamists Walk Into a Bar . . .</title> <atom:link href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:32:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: JXL48</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-116477</link> <dc:creator>JXL48</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:40:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-116477</guid> <description>Nowadays, adjusted to inflation, give the African tourists in America an Escalade Cadillac with 24&quot; shiny rims, and $50,000 cash a month. ,</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowadays, adjusted to inflation, give the African tourists in America an Escalade Cadillac with 24&quot; shiny rims, and $50,000 cash a month. ,</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angloirishslav</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32324</link> <dc:creator>angloirishslav</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:56:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32324</guid> <description>I&#039;m surprised at how many people commenting here refer to the Warren Jeffs people as &quot;Mormons.&quot; They are not; they are a splinter group that broke away from the mainstream Mormon church when it modernized and renounced polygamy and spearatism a century ago. Modern Mormons do not practice or condone polygamy, and yes, they are generally very patriotic and law-abiding. They are socially conservative, but they certainly do not force their under-age children to marry; they (for the most part) send their children to regular public schools and universities, encourage both boys and girls to seek higher education, and are well-represented in all the professions. They also do significant humanitarian work (for many communities, not just other Mormons) both in the U.S. and internationally. In other words, they have very little in common with the Warren Jeffs polygamists, and it does them a disservice to equate the two. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised at how many people commenting here refer to the Warren Jeffs people as &#8220;Mormons.&#8221; They are not; they are a splinter group that broke away from the mainstream Mormon church when it modernized and renounced polygamy and spearatism a century ago. Modern Mormons do not practice or condone polygamy, and yes, they are generally very patriotic and law-abiding. They are socially conservative, but they certainly do not force their under-age children to marry; they (for the most part) send their children to regular public schools and universities, encourage both boys and girls to seek higher education, and are well-represented in all the professions. They also do significant humanitarian work (for many communities, not just other Mormons) both in the U.S. and internationally. In other words, they have very little in common with the Warren Jeffs polygamists, and it does them a disservice to equate the two.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ysgeye</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32323</link> <dc:creator>ysgeye</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:37:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32323</guid> <description>Sheik, if you will look for the definition of &quot;adult&quot; in a law dictionary, and other older dictionaries, you will find that a 12 year old female is/was considered an adult at common law and a 14 year old male is/was considered an adult.
So, 12 y.o. females have been &quot;women&quot; since time immemorial up until just recently (relatively speaking), when someone arbitrarily decided that a human must now be 18 to be almost considered an adult and 21 to be fully considered adult (in America, that is).
One wonders, however, why it is that, when a young male or female under the age of 18 (such as 13, 14, 15, 16, 17) commit certain crimes, courts are requested by prosecutors to try them as adults, depending on the seriousness of the crime.  This is a curiosity to me, showing the arbitrariness of politicians and others here in America.  They can&#039;t make up their minds unless there is something in it for them (such as political gain).
Can you imagine why a female was fully a woman at 12 when the average lifespan was 27 or so, but somehow, magically stayed a child when the lifespan increased dramatically (and the number of psychologists increased dramatically - might be a connection)?  Hmmmm, must be an evolutionary thing, huh?
If you dig deep enough, you will also find that females as young as 7 years old were given in marriage not all that long ago.
So, one has to wonder who it was who finally decided at what age a human should be considered adult.  I know 50+ year old people who I would consider too immature to be considered adults, personally. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheik, if you will look for the definition of &#8220;adult&#8221; in a law dictionary, and other older dictionaries, you will find that a 12 year old female is/was considered an adult at common law and a 14 year old male is/was considered an adult.<br
/> So, 12 y.o. females have been &#8220;women&#8221; since time immemorial up until just recently (relatively speaking), when someone arbitrarily decided that a human must now be 18 to be almost considered an adult and 21 to be fully considered adult (in America, that is).<br
/> One wonders, however, why it is that, when a young male or female under the age of 18 (such as 13, 14, 15, 16, 17) commit certain crimes, courts are requested by prosecutors to try them as adults, depending on the seriousness of the crime.  This is a curiosity to me, showing the arbitrariness of politicians and others here in America.  They can&#8217;t make up their minds unless there is something in it for them (such as political gain).<br
/> Can you imagine why a female was fully a woman at 12 when the average lifespan was 27 or so, but somehow, magically stayed a child when the lifespan increased dramatically (and the number of psychologists increased dramatically &#8211; might be a connection)?  Hmmmm, must be an evolutionary thing, huh?<br
/> If you dig deep enough, you will also find that females as young as 7 years old were given in marriage not all that long ago.<br
/> So, one has to wonder who it was who finally decided at what age a human should be considered adult.  I know 50+ year old people who I would consider too immature to be considered adults, personally.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: OldSchoolW</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32322</link> <dc:creator>OldSchoolW</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:10:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32322</guid> <description>Once again:
If you think White polygamists are bad,
Black/Arab/MUSLIM polygamists are far WORSE. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again:<br
/> If you think White polygamists are bad,<br
/> Black/Arab/MUSLIM polygamists are far WORSE.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mfee01</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32321</link> <dc:creator>mfee01</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:48:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32321</guid> <description>There are 2 things that can be done. 1st call the FBI when you see it happening don&#039;t say their Satanists I mean muslim. Just tell them some little girl is being molested and give the address. Second and the one I prefer... Shoot them. Gun them down in the street like the rabid animals they are. We have run them out of the town I live in. There are very few places in my town where you can go and see one left. the few that are left stay to themselves, and do not have the courage to speak or challenge us. They are the enemy and they know it. And before some lowlife liberal calls me a racist last I checked Islam is a religion (a false one but still considered a religion)  NOT a race so get it right or shut up. Any mu-slime don&#039;t like what I have said? common down to South Florida, just remember WE SHOOT BACK!! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 2 things that can be done. 1st call the FBI when you see it happening don&#8217;t say their Satanists I mean muslim. Just tell them some little girl is being molested and give the address. Second and the one I prefer&#8230; Shoot them. Gun them down in the street like the rabid animals they are. We have run them out of the town I live in. There are very few places in my town where you can go and see one left. the few that are left stay to themselves, and do not have the courage to speak or challenge us. They are the enemy and they know it. And before some lowlife liberal calls me a racist last I checked Islam is a religion (a false one but still considered a religion)  NOT a race so get it right or shut up. Any mu-slime don&#8217;t like what I have said? common down to South Florida, just remember WE SHOOT BACK!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: samurai</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32320</link> <dc:creator>samurai</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:59:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32320</guid> <description>It is politically correct to go after the EVIL WHITE MAN for what ever he does, no hesitating.  ISLAMICS get to play the race card END OF STORY. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is politically correct to go after the EVIL WHITE MAN for what ever he does, no hesitating.  ISLAMICS get to play the race card END OF STORY.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: commonsense</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32319</link> <dc:creator>commonsense</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32319</guid> <description>Here is a link which shows how Muslim clerics uphold polygamy and child marriage (or, to our way of thinking, pedophilia and child rape):
&lt;a href=&quot;http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737&lt;/a&gt; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link which shows how Muslim clerics uphold polygamy and child marriage (or, to our way of thinking, pedophilia and child rape):<br
/> <a
href="http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737" rel="nofollow">http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bhparkman</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32318</link> <dc:creator>bhparkman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:14:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32318</guid> <description>Yes, the FLDS folks have been a problem that Utah State&#039;s AG Mark Shurtleff won&#039;t deal with thoroughly. He allowed these child rapists and inbreeds make a run for Texas.
What&#039;s worse is the other group that most folks don&#039;t know much about.
&#61623; The True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (TLC): These are the most violent. They have threatened to siege the LDS Temple in Manti, UT.
&#61623; The Latter Day Church of Christ (LDCC): these guys are normally called the Kingston Clan. Founded by a local dairy farmer, he thought he could make a master race by inbreeding his immediate family.
&#61623; United Apostolic Brethren (UAB): these guys are normally called the Allred Group. They are more civil, but had a bloody war with the LeBaron polygamist group.
&#61623; Independent Polygamists: These guys are relatively unknown. They mostly keep a low profile in the deserts. The most notable was Tom Green, a polygamist who served time for welfare fraud and other charges. His prosecutor, David Leavitt (brother of CDC Chairman Mike Leavitt) is now running for congress.
The FLDS are just the largest and best-known group. But for the most part, these guys are not related to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormons). They have different organizations and do not use the Book of Mormon, Holy Bible, Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price ñ they rely heavily on books written by their leaders for spiritual guidance. All folks who practice plural marriage in the LDS Church are excommunicated, and we are advised by church authorities to have no contact with them whatsoever.
These groups also do not practice historical LDS Celestial marriage. They seem to practice Islamic plural marriage.  LDS Celestial marriage has no policy to brainwash women or treat them as property. We most certainly did not kill or wives or children for disobedience!
Historically, back in 1890 the LDS Church was in the midst of civil strife with the Fed. Our property was confiscated, fathers were imprisoned on flimsy charges, courts were packed to ensure conviction, children kidnapped and interrogated for information, and federal Marshallís patrolled our churches brandishing guns during services. Our weapons were confiscated, we had no right to vote, no right to property, no right to habeas corpus, no right to complain if shot by a Marshall; no constitutional rights whatsoever. We made numerous concessions to the government for some of our rights back. The first concession was to end Celestial Marriage. The Lord allowed the practice to end, so the concession was made.
Today, the Islamic polygamists get a pass, while those who these government folks arenít afraid of get the works.
And we all thought the FLDS would make a fight of it, too. I&#039;m glad they didn&#039;t. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the FLDS folks have been a problem that Utah State&#8217;s AG Mark Shurtleff won&#8217;t deal with thoroughly. He allowed these child rapists and inbreeds make a run for Texas.<br
/> What&#8217;s worse is the other group that most folks don&#8217;t know much about.<br
/> &#61623; The True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (TLC): These are the most violent. They have threatened to siege the LDS Temple in Manti, UT.<br
/> &#61623; The Latter Day Church of Christ (LDCC): these guys are normally called the Kingston Clan. Founded by a local dairy farmer, he thought he could make a master race by inbreeding his immediate family.<br
/> &#61623; United Apostolic Brethren (UAB): these guys are normally called the Allred Group. They are more civil, but had a bloody war with the LeBaron polygamist group.<br
/> &#61623; Independent Polygamists: These guys are relatively unknown. They mostly keep a low profile in the deserts. The most notable was Tom Green, a polygamist who served time for welfare fraud and other charges. His prosecutor, David Leavitt (brother of CDC Chairman Mike Leavitt) is now running for congress.<br
/> The FLDS are just the largest and best-known group. But for the most part, these guys are not related to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormons). They have different organizations and do not use the Book of Mormon, Holy Bible, Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price ñ they rely heavily on books written by their leaders for spiritual guidance. All folks who practice plural marriage in the LDS Church are excommunicated, and we are advised by church authorities to have no contact with them whatsoever.<br
/> These groups also do not practice historical LDS Celestial marriage. They seem to practice Islamic plural marriage.  LDS Celestial marriage has no policy to brainwash women or treat them as property. We most certainly did not kill or wives or children for disobedience!<br
/> Historically, back in 1890 the LDS Church was in the midst of civil strife with the Fed. Our property was confiscated, fathers were imprisoned on flimsy charges, courts were packed to ensure conviction, children kidnapped and interrogated for information, and federal Marshallís patrolled our churches brandishing guns during services. Our weapons were confiscated, we had no right to vote, no right to property, no right to habeas corpus, no right to complain if shot by a Marshall; no constitutional rights whatsoever. We made numerous concessions to the government for some of our rights back. The first concession was to end Celestial Marriage. The Lord allowed the practice to end, so the concession was made.<br
/> Today, the Islamic polygamists get a pass, while those who these government folks arenít afraid of get the works.<br
/> And we all thought the FLDS would make a fight of it, too. I&#8217;m glad they didn&#8217;t.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dms</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32317</link> <dc:creator>dms</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32317</guid> <description>I agree with everything except that the actual splinter group is the mainstream mormon church of today, having given up their polygamist beginnings.  Some say it was in order to acheive statehood.  Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had multiple wives. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything except that the actual splinter group is the mainstream mormon church of today, having given up their polygamist beginnings.  Some say it was in order to acheive statehood.  Joseph Smith and Brigham Young had multiple wives.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Audacious</title><link>http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-32316</link> <dc:creator>Audacious</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:42:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3660/so-two-polygamists-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-32316</guid> <description>&quot;It&#039;s simple. The extremist Morman splinter group are identified by themselves, the MSM, and the government as &quot;Christians&quot;. This country is at war with Christians . . &quot;
Ahh, that&#039;s the reason. You&#039;re a deep thinker there, Spiffo. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s simple. The extremist Morman splinter group are identified by themselves, the MSM, and the government as &#8220;Christians&#8221;. This country is at war with Christians . . &#8221;<br
/> Ahh, that&#8217;s the reason. You&#8217;re a deep thinker there, Spiffo.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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