July 22, 2011, - 2:57 pm

“Captain America” Whitewashes the Nazis – No Swastikas; Disappearing Insignia on US Soldiers

By Debbie Schlussel

Why did “Captain America” filmmakers erase all swastikas from the Nazis and mute U.S. Insignia on American Soldiers?

I’m not gushing over “Captain America:  The First Avenger,” unlike most other movie critics.  The movie was okay.  It’s fine.  But it isn’t great.  And I question just how “American” it actually is. While I loved the first third or so of the movie, the rest is a long, boring, amorphous fight between American soldiers with no American insignia on their uniforms and Nazis who don’t bear swastikas.  The barely visible eagle on helmets isn’t the American eagle, but the symbol of the SSR–Strategic Scientific Reserve–division of the Army in which Captain America is placed.  The references to the U.S. become more and more muted as the movie goes on.

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I guess this was done to please the Nazi-lovers and America-haters around the world (including most Muslims who continue to make Mein Kampf a best-seller), who might be offended if bad guys actually wore swastikas and the guys wearing “U.S.” pins on their lapels were actually the good guys.  I mean, it is called, “Captain America,” after all.  Not Captain Mohammed or Captain Switzerland.  That’s the reason for the second title.  The studio planned to just call the movie, “The First Avenger.”  And all future movies with Captain America are set to use the name “Avenger” in them.

Yes, unlike in the Captain America comic books, the Nazis are barely in the picture in this flick.  They are mentioned at the beginning as is Hitler (who is mocked in a musical number on a stage), but that quickly ends.  And swastikas are completely whitewashed out of it.  The only swastika you’ll see in the entire film is during newsreel footage before a movie that the characters go to see.  Instead of swastikas, we are shown an octopus with a skull’s head, apparently the symbol of the Hydra division, that becomes a rogue offshoot of the Nazis studying supernatural science.  We never hear “Heil Hitler,” just “Hail Hydra.”  It’s absurd.  Oh, and hey, the Nazis aren’t that bad.  They’re “moderates” because they try to get rid of the mad scientist bad guy in their midst.  Yeah, like that ever happened.  Mengele, anyone?

Why not just call this “Captain Avoid America?”  Would be more appropriate.

And then there’s the English woman (Agent Peggy Carter, played by Hayley Atwell) who gives orders to Army recruits at boot camp and thereafter.  Yeah, right, a woman–much less a female “agent” from England–gave orders to American soldiers in World War II.  PUH-LEEZE.  Oh, and she saves Captain America from being burned alive by being the she-man who shoots the evil Hydra guy with a machine gun.  Yeah, ‘cuz we had soooo many women shootin’ machine guns at Nazi, er . . . “Hydrazis,” during World War II.  Absurd.

The story:  Steve Rogers is a scrawny, short guy who longs to be in the U.S. Army during World War II, so he can fight for America against the Nazis and Hitler.  He is repeatedly rejected and sees his best friend, a more robust guy, get shipped off to Europe.  But a German doctor working for the Americans overhears Rogers complaining about it to his friend and soon recruits Rogers to his special supernatural science division, planning to inject him with a super serum he developed in Germany.  The serum makes a man extremely muscular and powerful, and he’s already done the same with a Nazi, Schmidt, who becomes the Red Skull and heads the Hydra division.

But after the injection, while Rogers becomes super strong, the doctor is murdered by a German spy and there isn’t any more serum to replicate an Army of American supermen like Captain America.  Rogers finds himself in the Army but not fighting Nazis as he’d dreamed.  Instead he performs in patriotic musical numbers to raise money for bonds and entertain troops, and he’s a laughing stock.  He seeks to prove himself, and ultimately he is fighting for and leading some amorphous Army of American soldiers without U.S. insignia against the Hydra fighters.

Like I said, it’s not a great movie.  It’s just okay and waaaay toooo looong. They could have cut 30-40 minutes off this thing, and you’d miss nothing.  The special effects aren’t that spectacular, either.  And the whitewashing of swastikas and American identity out of it is disturbing and stupid.  And it’s hypocritical, since the movie poster has the American flag on it and the closing credits are filled with patriotic music and pics of Uncle Sam, etc.  Why are we so afraid to show swastikas in their place in history?  Again, it’s “Hey, we might offend someone.”  Political correctness ad absurdum.

BTW, if you do go see this, you can see a “stinger,” including a preview of “The Avengers,” if you sit through ALL of the credits at the end. And I mean all of ‘em. It’s insufferable and not worth the “reward” at the end.

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There was a major terrorist attack in OSlo, Norway today.

Early details are sketchy but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Religion Of Peace had a hand in it at the end.

After all, this IS Israel-hating ScandoIslamia!

NormanF on July 22, 2011 at 3:02 pm

As for your movie review, if we’re afraid to offend dead Nazis, it stands to figure Hollywood is even more scared of offending Islam!

We must make sure no one gets offended – especially the Nazis!

Go figure. I think that deserves three Obamas and maybe a Bin Laden for outright dishonesty! Instead of the one and a half Reagan you assigned it. I know its a movie but I don’t care for playing fast and loose with the truth!

NormanF on July 22, 2011 at 3:07 pm

I won’t see any movie that downplays America. The new Superman (Stupidman?) slogan is “Truth and Justice,” not, “Truth, Justice, and the American Way.” That makes me so angry!

Both Superman and Captain America were created by Jewish Americans. The creators were proud of being American!

In fact, Captain America was supposed to be all about fighting Nazis.

It is sad that the leftists in Hollywood, who are living the American Dream, seek to demonize America or downplay our contributions to mankind and the world.

You did make one error Deb. We did have women, a fair number, shooting Nazis with machine guns during World War II. They were Jewish partisans who escaped the ghettos and fled into the forests of Eastern Europe and in particular Russia and Poland. The Jewish women used machine guns, rifles, grenades, etc. in their fight against the Nazis. It has been estimated that these Jewish partisans, male and female, tied up many thousands of Nazi soldiers.

Several books have been written about these partisans. Not all Jews were forced to become victims.

JG: No error, here. I know a lot about the partisans. My great-uncle was one, and I’ve written about the partisans on this site many times. But these were Jews in the forest. American soldiers did not have women shouting orders at them in boot camp in the 1940s, and they didn’t shoot machine guns in uniform to save them. Just didn’t happen. We don’t need feminist revisionist history. DS

Jonathan Grant on July 22, 2011 at 3:22 pm

Jon, I have nothing against women soldiers. Its ridiculous to imagine a tiny female pummeling a large and heavy man but you’d amazed how much a gun or rifle can equalize the playing field in a potentially dangerous situation!

NormanF on July 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm

Israeli women are so hot looking when carrying their rifles. If more Jews had rifles and pistols in Europe, or, put more correctly, had Europe not had restrictive gun laws, there would have been more Jews alive and more dead Nazis during WWII.

Jonathan E. Grant on July 22, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Joe Simon, one of the co-creators of Captain America (other was Jack Kirby), was in the news about the movie Captain America this morning. Jack Kirby (born Jacob Kurtzberg) died in 1994.

http://news.yahoo.com/joe-simons-co-creation-capt-america-returns-140915751.html

Quote:
“With Captain America, the villain came first. Jack and I read the newspapers, and knew what was going on over in Europe. And there he was — Adolf Hitler, with his ridiculous moustache, high-pitched ranting and goose-stepping followers,” Simon recalled in a recent interview. “He was the perfect bad guy, much better than anything we could have made up, so what we needed was to create his ultimate counterpart.”

Joe might be in disappointment if he sees the movie recently, as you pointed out the obvious issues (whitewashing Nazism, etc.) from the movie, Deb.

In the comic books, Peggy Carter was an American agent, not British. In this movie, she’s a British agent. Apparently, Marvel Studios has decided to give the Captain America movie a left-wing bent from the get-go. I was also informed by someone awhile back that this film version of Captain America is based on the Ultimates’ Captain America (a re-imagined Marvel universe with Nick Fury as the black SHIELD Director; in the regular Marvel universe including Captain America, the Nick Fury is the white SHIELD director). That one good reason why I stopped buying and reading comic books more than 15 years ago: re-invention or re-imagination of characters to stay contemporary for more profits and attract global, not American, customers.

I still plan to go to see the movie anyway.

Rob on July 22, 2011 at 3:58 pm

This famous comic book cover should have been made in this movie! Guess Joe Johnston (the director) and Marvel Studios didn’t wanted to offend neo-Nazis and Hitler-lovers out there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Captainamerica1.jpg

Rob on July 22, 2011 at 4:02 pm

I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I am disappointed that there is apparently little reference to Nazis in the film. Why the focus on Hydra? Hydra, if I remember correctly, did not appear in the comics until the mid-60s. The terrorist organization was founded by a Nazi but well after WW2 was over.

I get the feeling that, like Thor, the Cap movie is simply another prologue designed to set up the Avengers movie out next year. At least it’s getting better reviews than that straight-to-video version released about 20 years ago.

Alan on July 22, 2011 at 4:13 pm

I to haven’t seen the film yet Alan, but I’ve seen alot of commercial ads on television promoting the film. I said to myself, this film looks good in all, but this is hollywood, they’ve produced anti-american films over the years, etc. But I don’t know why the producers of Captin America ignored the nazi swastikas, are the producers and writers for Captin America are nazi apologist, ie, National Socialism (that’s what nazi means you moronic far-left morons and you stupid muslim posters who troll on this blog and use defamation against DS by calling her a nazi)?

I remember back over a month ago, Debbie wrote a film review article of “The X-Men” and on that particular there was nothing but X-Men apologist posters using ad homineims by attacking the messenger (Debbie Schlussel herself) and using some anti-semitism against DS and Israel, and there were some pathetic trolls who impersonated some of us the regular readers/posters on this blog. I hope those disgusting waste of DNA trolls don’t come onto this thread and show their true colors again after what they did over a month ago about the X-Men article!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 22, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Of course the Nazis were socialist, they had “Socialism” right in their title. “National Socialism”? Duh

    Similarly, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea has “democratic” AND “republic” right in the title! So you know Kim Jong Ill is running a democracy and is not just slapping on popular buzzwords.

    Shosai on July 22, 2011 at 7:19 pm

I for one am tired of America soft stepping around Muslims, for fear of offending them. They have one intention that is to destory all infidels. It is time to drop this pc act.

Bradley A Harris on July 22, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    This film has nothing to do with Muslims. What you are saying is irrelevant. Go spread your hate somewhere else.

    Ekans on July 22, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      Ok Ekans, since your defending islam, let me ask you a question without being a wise guy, who made the terrorist attacks in Oslo, Norway today? Answer, it was islamist who your probably defending!

      “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

      Sean R. on July 22, 2011 at 7:22 pm

        No it wasn’t. It was a 32 year old Conservative Norwegian man. Maybe if you spent more time learning about facts and less time spreading hatred, the world would be a much better place.

        It is sad, but unfortunately not uncommon, to see such ignorance spread on the internet, especially on a website such as this.

        Logan S. on July 22, 2011 at 10:25 pm

          Um Logan, originaly a muslim terrorist group claimed repsonsiblity from the get-go, then all of a sudden, they decided to back-away from it. This group “Ansar al-Jihad Al-Alami/The helpers of the global jihad, orginially took credit for this attack in Norway. But the suspect that the Norwegian authorities have in custody is yes a conservative male in his early 30s as you claimed. But guess what Logan, the authorities in Norway are NOT exactly sure if he’s the criminal in this terrorist attacks, they don’t know if he’s part-in-parcel of a conspiracy group or he behaved alone all by himself. As of right now, Anders Behring Breivik is in for “questioning” and the authorities don’t know if he did these attacks or somebody else committed it.

          Here’s the link Logan if you think I’m spreading hate, and you ought to get your head out of the sand and see reality for once bro:

          http://www.tnr.com/article/world/92532/what-ansar-al-jihad-al-alami

          “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

          Sean R. on July 23, 2011 at 12:38 pm

          Logan S. sez:

          “Maybe if you spent more time learning about facts and less time spreading hatred, the world would be a much better place.”

          Yes, that “better place” of Logan’s is the House of Islam, which he would like to encompass every square foot of the world.

          skzion on July 23, 2011 at 3:33 pm

It’s a shame that THIS movie had to fall prey to the hollywierd PC, international agenda.

samurai on July 22, 2011 at 5:11 pm

Jesus juggling Christ on a bike. You’re not going to see a movie because there aren’t enough swastikas? And who are you to ridicule the German nationalists of the 1940s, when you “Won’t see any movie that downplays America”? If anyone’s destroying this country, it’s the nostalgiac, 1950’s, “Everything was so much better when only white people lived in my neighborhood” generation.

A: I wondered how long it would take for defenders of Nazis to troll this site. Not long at all, apparently. DS

Anonymous on July 22, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    German Nationalists of the 1940s were Nazis, asshole.

    Old School Superman on July 22, 2011 at 6:59 pm

“Right now in America how we handle ourselves in political and global issues is up for questioning,” Evans said. “I still think Captain America is timeless. He might wear the red, white and blue, but I don’t think this is all about America. It is what America stands for. It could be called ‘Captain Good.’” — Chris Evans

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/07/12/captain-america-star-chris-evans-its-not-about-the-flag-its-about-the-hero/

Stephen Schochet on July 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm

Well, Debbie, not to sound like a dick, but Captain America doesn’t really need to be American. It’s not about “I’M AMERICAN! YOU’RE ALL NAZIS!! TAKE THAT!!” it’s more he’s a symbol of what a good person should be and he just wanted to go and stop some bullies.

It’s not about insignias or logos. It’s about a person just trying to be his very best.

And Rob, Cap’s always been a little centerist. In the comics, that dude’s never agreed with the far right or even the far left.

I think you’re all getting angry over nothing and you should just learn to relax a little and not assume it’s “The DEMOCRATS ARE RUINING OUR WHOLESOME SUPERHEROES AND MOVIES!!!”

Evirus on July 22, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    He’s Captain AMERICA. And America has been the towering giant for Liberty Internationally over the last 94 years, since 1917. Longer than that if you count immigration from Euroscum land in the 1800s.

    I’m SOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of Left-Wing scum. Ebert likes, Schlussel dislikes. Good enough for me. Not gonna give them my hard earned cash.

    Occam's Tool on July 22, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Ironically, Steve Rogers the character would probably be happier with this movie because he’d think one showing him storming the beaches and single handedly taking down Hitler would diminish the sacrifice of the tens of millions who fought to end tyranny during that war.

bucky on July 22, 2011 at 6:46 pm

For one, they took out the swastika so that it wouldnt be banned in germany, and to not cater to the “america fuck yeah nazis and muslims suck fuck yeah” demographic. see, contrary to popular belief, captain america isnt about that. Hes not doing what his country wants, hes doing what he thinks is right for his country, and wether you agree with that or not, you cant deny its a good trait to do what you think is right.
Also, i think its blatantly obvious captain america in the movie isnt even fighting real nazis, hes fighting hydra, its silly, but its in the comics and its an excuse to have the GI Joe adventure flick feel it does without resorting to idiocy. Adolf Hitler was a monster, yes, but you cant deny the man helped germany out of its rotting economy in an enormous way. simply putting any historical figure or side as “the bad guys” is childish and, quite frankly, cynical.
You seem to forget this is a comic book movie about a comic book that started out as war propaganda, and ironicaly turned into a comic AGAINST propaganda.

http://www.google.co.ve/imgres?q=captain+america+speech&hl=es&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=1GHVV4A9Aa2BpM:&imgrefurl=http://www.stuffeddrunkandmerry.com/stuff/word-up/289&docid=5VQys6jaVg4oMM&w=720&h=453&ei=yf0pToeELIrqgQfzgZ37Cg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=509&vpy=424&dur=242&hovh=178&hovw=283&tx=141&ty=51&page=1&tbnh=151&tbnw=204&start=0&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0&biw=1280&bih=933

Just an example.
And honestly, if youre going to fault a movie for its political direction, at least dont go and say mindless jargon like “muslims read mein kampf”
Hitler was a devout christian, i doubt extremist muslims read anything by him.

TheRedSkull on July 22, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Hitler was NOT a devout Christian, Mein Kampf in Arabic translation is extremely popular and easily available in Muslim bookstores, the Muslims fought with the Nazis in WWII, and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was close pals with high ranking Nazis.

    Thanks for playing, asshole.

    Old School Superman on July 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    TheRedSkull is quite a piece of work.

    “Adolf Hitler was a monster, yes, but you cant deny the man helped germany out of its rotting economy in an enormous way.”

    Yes, he “helped germany out” by obliterating germany. Back to Stormfront, TRS.

    skzion on July 23, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Debbie Status:
[ ] Untold
[X] Told
[X] Atoldment
[X] No Country for Told Men
[X] Ricktol’d
[X] The Told Steady
[X] The Told and the Beautiful
[X] Battletolds
[X] The Told Shoulder
[X] Problem Told 2
[X] The Communist Manifestold
[X] Quentin Tarantintold

Werner Herzog on July 22, 2011 at 6:53 pm

This is truly pathetic. You were able to criticize Islam in a movie that nothing to do with it while calling all Hollywood Nazi sympathizers. This is a terrible review and has nothing to do with the substance of the film. You’re a comically bad writer You deserve to lose your job for this unprofessional and charged review. Maybe you should learn how to write more professionally and objective before you think about publishing anything anywhere because honestly, it just makes you look bad.

Ekans on July 22, 2011 at 6:53 pm

Oh Debbie, you make me laugh…you dumb blonde bitch.

Jones on July 22, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Please tell me this is some sort of joke article, because this is not exactly fair and unbiased journalism.

Jack Ryder on July 22, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Comments for vermin:

    Movie Reviews are opinion articles, Jack the Illiterate one.

    It’s Debbie’s BLOG, Ekans. She’s the BOSS! She CAN’T be fired.

    And finally, my own comment: They emasculated Superman in the last film on him—“Truth Justice, and all that stuff.” If they do the same here with Cap, Screw ‘em. Captain America is SUPPOSED to be PRO-AMERICAN. He’s CAPTAIN FRICKEN’ AMERICA. I am aware that all-Capping is yelling, but some maggots are slow on the uptake.

    Let me see if I got this right, Debbie: nothing objectionable for kids, but nothing really exceiting, either. Whitewashes history in a moronic fashion. Not useful as a flag-waving exercise. Screw ‘em.

    Old School Superman on July 22, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      yeah, no, you’re wrong

      captain america represents an ideal of what america COULD BE, not what it is

      he isn’t just mindlessly pro-america no matter what america does

      alt on July 22, 2011 at 7:25 pm

this movies is based on the ultimate marvel universe not the original captain america series. the reason they had to use the ultimates version, is because of standards and practices, who back during preprocuction told marvel they could have either nazi’s (as in with rayguns) or include “real” firearms in the film.

needtoreadmorecomics on July 22, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Another dumb white bitch giving her two cents when no one cares. Do society and yourself a favor cunt kill yourself. You should have went to see FWB instead looks more up your alley sugar tits.

Why on July 22, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    “Why” reminds us that even one Muslim in America is too many.

    skzion on July 23, 2011 at 3:52 pm

You think the letter ‘A’ on his head stands for France?

Andy K. on July 22, 2011 at 7:04 pm

Godwin’s Law has been invoked. Aparently I’m a Nazi defender for telling the truth about the out-of-touch suburb dwellers.

Anonymous on July 22, 2011 at 7:05 pm

A no-armed monkey could make a better review than this.

Richard Butts on July 22, 2011 at 7:08 pm

As DS would say to you “Why”, you stay classy! Instead of refuting the article in general, what do your dumbass do, you attack the messenger and use ad homineims against the messenger! BTW, making a death threat towards anybody is “ILLEGAL” and is NO longer about freedom of speech. You nazi apologist (probably muslims posing as westerners) are so damn predictable, as soon as you see the word “nazi”, you wackjobs troll onto the blog and make asses of yourselves instead of sticking to the issue and the topic.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 22, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    >Accuse others of being Nazi apologists and Muslims
    >say that THEY are they are the wackjobs

    hahahaohwow.jpg

    anon on July 22, 2011 at 7:25 pm

So, how many of you have actually read a Captain America comic and know what he’s all about? I’m guessing from the article that Debbie doesn’t understand anything about what he is supposed to represent or what Hydra is.

What is this on July 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm

“I guess this was done to please the Nazi-lovers and America-haters around the world (including most Muslims who continue to make Mein Kampf a best-seller),”
HAhahahahahahaha oh hahahaha haaahaahaha ahahahaha hahahaha hahahahdhahahaha haaaaaaaaaaaahghahah.
Gawd so true.

Like my name.

Mike Hawk on July 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm

Ms. Schlussel,

I would just like to point out that most of the villains in the film are not Nazis at all. Red Skull himself is a Nazi and, in fact DOES have a swastika on his uniform. Hydra soldiers wouldn’t be wearing swastikas because they are an entirely separate entity. Hydra’s presence as a major villain in the Marvel universe dates back to the 60s and is in no way an invention of this film in an attempt to whitewash Nazis in history.

John B. on July 22, 2011 at 7:20 pm

You’re my new favorite comedian.

THREE-AND-A-HALF ABATAPS

Theo B Server on July 22, 2011 at 7:21 pm

Another view of this..Captain America may as well be ,more Hollywood propaganda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh_YDAbGgvQ&feature=feedu

Bob Porrazzo on July 22, 2011 at 7:22 pm

0/10

KFC Processing Machine on July 22, 2011 at 7:23 pm

Two years ago Quentin Tarantino came out with “Inglourious Basterds” (misspellings part of the title), as anti-Nazi a film as one could ever hope for — no holds barred. Debbie rated it her favorite movie of the year. Now, all of sudden, the entire film industry stands guilty of promoting Nazism because it didn’t feature enough swastika insignias in “Captain America.”

As John Stossel would say, “Gimme a break.”

Seek on July 22, 2011 at 7:25 pm

The Hollywood MARXISTS removed swastikas from the film so that way it wouldn’t be banned in half the countries of Europe, and they could make more money via a perfectly logical capitalistic decision. That’s what Marxists do, make products that cater to the largest possible market demographics.

But they also removed swastikas to cater to Nazi-lovers. It’s a fact that modern-day Neo-Nazis can’t stand the sight of the swastika. It offends them, almost as much as being associated with the holocaust. Can you find a single Nazi-lover today that actually wants to be associated with the type of folks that carried out the holocaust? I sure can’t!

Debbie you are a paragon of reason in a crazy word. I salute you. And the free market. And capitalism! Unless its Hollywood capitalism

Shosai on July 22, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Hollywood Marxists making money through capitalism. Glad you passed high school history. Imbecile.

    Anon-e-moose on July 22, 2011 at 7:39 pm

“We never hear “Heil Hitler,” just “Hail Hydra.” It’s absurd.”

Maybe that’s because the Nazis aren’t the main antagonists, you ponce.

The Doctor on July 22, 2011 at 7:49 pm

Why would “Nazi-lovers” not want to see swastikas ? How can this bitch be so stupid ? Its like im really on /int/

>debbie
>white

new-fag on July 22, 2011 at 7:57 pm

@new-fag, do us all a favor and just stick to the topic and be civil instead of using ad hominiems by attacking the messenger. I’m not surprised by you trolls making complete fools of yourselves on this blog.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 22, 2011 at 8:03 pm

This comment section, this article- it’s just so… it is utterly amazing!

“LoL, Captain America didn’t kill enough Muslims in WWI, I’m upset about this!

Love,
Debbie!”

trashmasterblaster on July 22, 2011 at 8:07 pm

You do know that the point of having Hydra break away from the Nazis in the movie was to establish Hydra as a potentially recurring threat in future movies, right?

And I’m sure you’re aware that America had Allies in WWII? Sure a woman ordering people around is absurd for the 1940s, but Hollywood has to shoehorn a love story in somehow.

I’m not sure why I’m trying to reason with you, or some of these commentators, though. You and a handful of them wouldn’t be happy with the movie unless it was completely jingoistic.

Captain America stands for what is right, just as our country should.

It’s people like you who give the rest of the world a reason to hate Americans.

Facepalming Anon on July 22, 2011 at 8:10 pm

Sean R. truly doesn’t understand that free speech cuts both ways. If you live in a glass house, it’s best not to throw stones, a lesson that you really need to learn. You can’t spew false ad-hominem accusations left, right, and center while you yourself post ridiculously low-class comments that insult everyone with an opinion that doesn’t corroborate Debbie’s opinions. It just hurts your argument and makes you look like the idiot that you are.

And BTW, if you bothered reading the comments, you would understand that the movie is not about diminishing the role of Nazis but on focusing on the role of the HYDRA organization, as introduced in the Marvel Comics. So yeah, this is clearly not Inglorious Basterds 2.0, but it doesn’t exactly mean it’s “pro-Marxist”, “pro-Muslim”, or “anti-American” as you and your buddies are asserting. It’s fiction; people aren’t sitting down in the audience expecting to watch a play-by-play of the Second World War. Wake up and grow up.

Lol, fail on July 22, 2011 at 8:32 pm

@Lol, fail, apparently you didn’t read a few of the posters on this blog in which a few of the posters actually made ad hominems against Debbie, and to my own credit, I called them out for doing it. I myself do BELIEVE in freedom of speech as much as the next person, it’s ok if you disagree what DS wrote, it’s your opinion, but if you dear cross the line by making a threat to her or anyone of us the readers/posters on this blog, that’s NO longer about freedom of speech, nor should it be protected by the first amendment my friend. You also claim that I make “low-class comments that insults everyone with a different viewpoint”, I do NOT make silly comments against anybody with a different viewpoint from mines, the posters or DS’s. As I’ve said, if your opinion(s) is different than mines and your disagreeing with DS or any of us in a rational and civil way, I’m fine with that, but if you resort to childish ad homniems attacks, I’ll hold you accountable for doing that.

As for this film, I’m glad your sticking to the topic, but didn’t you read the title, “Captin America, Whitewashes the Nazis-No Swastikas, etc, etc,”. Your right, this film is fiction, it’s not reality, but my original question was this afternoon was, why did the producers and writers ignored the nazi symbol from their film? Is it that they didn’t want to offend the neo-nazi’s who’ll see this film? I am awake and know what’s happening and you don’t have to tell me to grow up, I’m a full grown man in my early 30s buster!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 22, 2011 at 8:55 pm

@Sean R.:

I now appreciate the distinction you made and I respect your opinion. It just initially seemed that you were insulting everyone and I apologize for not recognizing that that was not entirely the case.

As for the whitewashing of swastikas and the other symbols, I haven’t seen the movie yet so I can’t judge how blatant the omission of the swastikas are. To be honest, if there are indeed few swastikas, it wouldn’t be in line with the Captain America comic book series because the HYDRA organization and Red Skull himself are all following the Nazi ideology. If the film does seem to intentionally leave that part out, it would signify that the producers do indeed have a cowardly agenda with their portrayal of Nazis, but as I alluded to in my previous point, the Nazis are really not the focal point of the movie or the series. Case in point, the inclusion of swastikas should not really be a deciding factor of the quality of the film, as much as the absence of such symbols detracts from the realism of the time period and setting of the movie.

Lol, fail on July 22, 2011 at 9:09 pm

I admit that I was a bit taken back by the missing swastikas and fighting the Nazis. Then I gathered that the evil character wanted to rule the world himself and not be a supporter of Hitler’s effort. The woman punching out the soldier was weird. One punch and down goes the tough guy, but that’s Hollywood and one of the reasons I go only to a few select movies. The movie is funny in that it does seem to downplay America, but with a character like Captain America and his outfit, it becomes a comic effect that does rob the movie of its impact. I did like the movie, but I long to have a feeling of pride in my country and its soldiers like I feel when I watch Delta Force.

Aaron on July 23, 2011 at 9:31 am

Americans are so silly

The Man on July 23, 2011 at 10:58 am

First let me say that I am not one to take Debbie Schlussel seriously, but when my friend told me about this review, I felt complied to respond. Debbie Schlussel is a disgrace to all women. Why do you think it is she hasn’t been able to write for any newspapers for longer than a year? Because everyone is disgusted by her material. Even her weak attempt of a show, The Debbie Schlussel Show, turned out a disaster. Literally everything this woman produces in life, turns out to be made of shit and fail. What this woman is craving, is a good dicking. It is just a shame no one can stand being near her. Cindy Stanson, Oklahoma City, OK

Cindy on July 23, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Cindy, your real name is Rashid. Do you limit your female impersonations to cyberspace?

    skzion on July 23, 2011 at 3:45 pm

And who the hell are you Cindy? Far as I’m concerned Mrs. Stanson, your a “nobody” who live in Oklahoma. First off, this is Debbie’s blog, NOT yours, got it, your a visitor or guest in Ms. Schlussel’s house (the samething can be said for myself and all of the posters/readers here). Secondly, the reason why the failed newspaper rags didn’t want her was NOT because of her behavior, it’s because they either didn’t cite the woman correctly or they stoled DS’s work from this blog and NEVER gave Debbie any credit for originally writing any specific story. Debbie Schlussel can save any newspapers in this country, because she does alot of investigative work, etc. And BTW, DS is not just a commentator, columnist, and blogger, she’s also an attorney and she’s very successful, and I think your the one who’s jealous of what she’s achieved in life Cindy. So why don’t you try and start your own blog or website, that’s if you have the brains and skills to start one!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 23, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Sean R, while I applaud your defense of Debbie, bear in mind that “Cindy” is the drag name of Rashid, who lives in Dearbornistan.

    skzion on July 23, 2011 at 4:03 pm

I grew up reading Captain America and the moment I heard that Marvel & paramount were allowing countries to subsitute “The First Avenger” in place of “Captain America” I knew that they have gone agains thte spirit of the source material which was highly patriotic.

I did a video about this blunder and more in my link.

Not rushing out to see this one.

Fred on July 23, 2011 at 12:51 pm

My mother discouraged me from reading comic books when I was young, and I am grateful. But evidently, the comic books way back when were masterpieces compared with the movies that have come out based on characters in them. The subtext of such movies seems invariably to be anti-American, anti-white, and man hating.

skzion on July 23, 2011 at 3:58 pm

Captain America hasn’t fought Nazi’s in years. Even in the WWII set events, he fought against the beginnings of Hydra. IF you’re going to try and use comics to make an argument, read them please.

Second, at what point did you think this wasn’t about America? Captain America is what America was in the beginning; The Little Guy. He sets out to prove himself and stand up for what he believes in. That’s America.

Elvern on July 23, 2011 at 8:21 pm

The HYDRA organization was a creation by a Nazi officer by the name of Baron Wolgang Von Strucker. He was a follower of the Red Skull and not the other around as the Red Skull following Hydra. The Red Skull and Baron Zemo were Captain America’ s main Nazi foes while Baron Strucker was S.H.I.E.L.D leader Nick Fury. Nick Fury was the leader of The Howling Commandos during World War II in the Marvel Comics Universe.

I have stopped watching comic book based movies because I think many writers steer from the original intent of the comic an they produce something that is not the same in my opinion. The trolls that love to come here and defend this practice and attack Debbie need not to be responded since they just want to be the attention whores they are.

The main reason for me not being to enthusiastic was that one trailer scene where Steve Rogers holds the shield and the British agents shoots him from a .45 caliber pistol resting on the table. Just seeing here shoot two rounds standing straight and tall and no recoil especially since she shot the .45 with one hand! YEAH RIGHT! I would like that actress to do it with a real .45 and she if she can copy her one handed shooting. To me that episode made me think some of the action scenes including the shooting might not be up to par. I am not saying this will be another Charlie’s Angels comedic fight scenes but still what does a movie convey that a blatant innaccuracy can be put into a big budgeted movie.

Mario on July 23, 2011 at 11:35 pm

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