July 28, 2011, - 1:34 pm

Karma?: Norway Camp Breivik Shot Up Celebrated HAMAS, Jew-Hatred

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE: Karma #2: Norway Utoya Camp Was Also FATAH PLO Terrorist Camp ****

It’s trite but true:  a picture’s worth a thousand words.  And the Norwegian newspaper pictures from the “political youth camp” at Utoya Island, Norway–the day before terrorist Anders Behring Breivik attacked it–say it all.  The boycott sign is obvious, and the other pic is a game, re-enacting of the HAMAS flotilla in which terrorists tried to murder Israeli soldiers (complete with Palestinian flags and Norwegian kids’ smiles).  These kids who were killed by a terrorist . . . well, they sided with Islamic terrorists.  Look at the photos brought to our attention by Zalmi’s Weblog, and they appeared on Norwegian news site Politisk, right before the attacks.  Read all the insightful details provided by the astute Zalmi, who notes that the man in the pic happily encountering the boycott sign is Norway’s Foreign Minister Gahre-Store, who went on to praise Palestinian terrorists and condemn Israel.

“Victims” or Perpetrators?: Norwegian HAMASniks Join Norway Foreign Minister @ Utoya Island Camp

Funny how Glenn Beck has come  under attack for comparing the camp to a Hitler Youth camp.  Based on these pics, seems like he’s spot on, though he should have added, HAMAS Youth camp, too. As we all know, Nazis boycotted Jews and were Jew-killers.  And these hateful, privileged brats at the camp boycotted Jews and sided with Jew-killers.  I don’t condone violent massacres on innocent civilians, and I condemn what Breivik did. He is a terrorist just like the 9/11 hijackers, Hezbollah, HAMAS, and Nidal Malik Hasan.  But what goes around comes around.  You support terrorists against innocent civilians in Israel, then you get attacked by terrorists who are upset with your support.

For me, this is like Alien v. Predator.  I’m not  sad for either side.  And I make no apologies for it.  Now these kids’ families know what it feels like to be victims of the Islamic terrorists whose Judenrein boycotts and terrorist flotillas against Israel they support.  We don’t live in a vacuum.  I can’t feel sorry for those who support my would-be assassins.  And I don’t get too upset when they face the karma that is their fate.  HAMAS isn’t just against Israel, it’s against all Jews . . . and all Christians.  Just ask the Christians who’ve had to flee Gaza for their lives.  And read the HAMAS charter.  I’ll bet that’s something these spoiled airheaded kids with their Boycott Israel signs and HAMAS flotilla re-enactment games never did.

Frankly, the HAMAS charter and HAMAS’ behavior, all of which these kids at the Norwegian HAMAS youth camp cheered on, is a lot more scary than the screed and deeds of Breivik.

My late grandfather, a Holocaust survivor, never shed a tear for dead Nazis.  My late father, a Vietnam era Army veteran, never shed a tear for those who supported the killing of Americans and Jews. And I shed no tears for these HAMASnik campers with a Scandinavian dialect. Perpetrators are not victims. Sorry. HAMAS collaborators don’t get my pity. They never will.

Again, you must read Zalmi’s important piece on this, which provides far more detail on these “victims” of terrorism who celebrated terrorism against other victims.

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484 Responses

You are one of the most despicable Nazi Zionist whores to date. I hope you and your ilk find a resting place at the bottom of a septic tank.
It’s a shame that Adolph Hitler didn’t really have a “final solution” for your kind of Russian Bolshevik filth. If there really were “death camps”: you wouldn’t be here now.
I really wish Hitler had such a pogrom like the one Nazi israel currently has for the peaceful Palestinian people. If he had: none of your ilk would have escaped and lived to rape and terrorize the planet.
You should be turned into a vegetable and locked away from all human contact.
I hope someone finds a way to massacre every Nazi child in that fascist theocracy of Apartheid israel.
You animals are devoid of all human qualities. The only ones who like your filth are serial killers, kike bankers and pedophiles. Even Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin were better people than your kind.
With “friends” like you who steal national security technology and sell it to China, attack American interests like the WTC on 911, and the USS Liberty in 1967, and murder children for organ procurement: who needs enemies?
You are as sick and evil as a rabid jackal and should be “put down” before you infect some ones child.
BDSE = BOYCOTT – DIVEST – SANCTION – EXTERMINATE

KimWSSmith on August 2, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Islam is the New Fascism !

    We don’t want No Scum Islam In Europe and We do Know Why:

    “Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism ”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51poygEXYU

    Mallory on August 3, 2011 at 10:06 am

    KimWSSmith, would love to speak to you,
    Where do you live?
    please write me an email at doriangitelman@yahoo.com
    Would love to chat with you

    Abdulllah on August 4, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Israel is the only Jewish state, it allows the average person to see the Jews for what monsters they truly are. Israel is locked in a box and the harder the Muslims the worse they look, if they act weak the Muslims will destroy them utterly. Its only a matter of time before they unleash the Sampson option and truly become the most hated race of them all.

    AngryMan9000 on August 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    KimWSSmith,

    I Love you! Thanks for expressing your views. They are shared by the plurality of the world.

    Sam Goldstein on August 5, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      Wow. The depths of anti-semitism here are amazing. I don’t think the posters here are a random sample of humanity, but the left needs to take a hard look at itself and admit its faults: anti-semitism has a cozy home in left-wing politics.

      JHOW on August 6, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    You, like a few other racists and perverts on this comment column, are the epitome of the most evil, disgusting, murderous ‘humans’ ever to inhabit this planet. I guess you are just longing to return to Satan, your father, in his red-hot palace way down under. I wish you a quick journey back there as soon as possible, taking the rest of your hate-filled, hateful kind with you. Don’t forget to take tons of sun-block just in case your pasty, overwhite skins are too delicate to withstand the boiling fire and brimstone heat.

    Tee Gee on August 9, 2011 at 4:46 am

The simple common sense fact is that Israel was created by people mostly from places like Poland and Russia
over the land where indiginous Muslims, Christians, and Jews coexisted without violence for
hundreds of years. There was no terrorism issue in the middle east until 1948 when Israel was created.

The existence of Israel is a biblical myth imposed by outsiders on to local indiginous people.
The had no more business creating Israel in the middle east than in any other place such as New Jersey.
Another way to clarify this is to point that Europeans creating Israel in the Middle East is just as
ridiculous as Chinese Muslims asserting a right to create a Muslim country in the Middle East for themselves.

Zero on August 2, 2011 at 9:22 pm

Those who still have not figured out by 2008 or later that the 911 incident was a collaboration between Israel and members of the Bush administration do not know anything of significance regarding modern day events.

Zero on August 2, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Re: Zero on August 2, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Here, let me fix your statement for you so that it becomes truthful [my brackets].

    “Those who still [think] [as of] 2008 or later [or even earlier] that the 911 incident was [somehow] a collaboration between Israel and members of the Bush administration do not know anything of significance regarding modern day events.”

    There, that’s better.

    You’re welcome.

    JeffE on August 2, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    STOP ISLAM FOREVER

    http://dougsaunders.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/BreivikInUniform.jpg

    Stop Islam on August 3, 2011 at 10:09 am

If a Jew commits an atrocity (say he burns children to death with white phosphorous) and I condemn this act as vicious barbarism, there are fanatical, rabid, Zio-Nazis, like Debbie Schlussel, who will call me antisemitic, a Jew-hater.

Early Zionists, in rare moments of honesty, admitted that they knew what they were doing to the Palestinians was wrong and they would concede that they could understand the Palestinians’ hatred of them. Modern Zionists seem to have lost that ability.

The hell that Zionists inflict on the Palestinians on a daily basis doesn’t even exist in their minds or they really don’t care. The only thing they see is any act of retaliation by the Palestinians on Israelis. This is called terrorism and the cause is always simply Jew-hating.

This may simply be a tactic. A way to exploit this phony “War on Terror” or it could be a form of psychosis, a product of the vicious Zionist project. In any case the words of someone like Debbie should be rejected as the rantings of a lunatic.

Horatio on August 2, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Re:

    ["...In any case the words of someone like Debbie should be rejected as the rantings of a lunatic."

    Horatio on August 2, 2011 at 9:34 pm]

    YOU are the lunatic, Horatio. Everything that you wrote there is a lie!

    JeffE on August 2, 2011 at 10:41 pm

You are a callous turd. You only would defend your religion’s children. May that curse infect your life. A war crime is a war crime. Killing innocents is KILLING even if they are goyim.

Jon Witowi on August 2, 2011 at 10:39 pm

Ahhhh…..so many falsehoods and half-truths from both sides. The truth is Israel has the right to exist…but so does Palestine. And they need to work out their differences between themselves and leave the US out of it. We’re headed for broke and have a few things at home to fix. We can no longer be the world’s policeman getting between petulant children. The Cold War is won, time to get out of our bases around the world. It is time both sides grow up and high time the US leave the Mid-East region to its own devices. We have wasted precious blood and treasure fighting wars far from our own shores. A shot of isolationism would do this country good.

Michael F. on August 2, 2011 at 10:49 pm

These stupids Israeel lovers write and think that they gonna get postive remarks and sympathies. But wht they are really getting a shit. They do not have sympathy over other people and kills even kids. Takeout the statistics of deaths of Palestenins before 9/11. These ugly jews are destroying the whole world economy and making people dependant on the new terms they invents almost daily. I think to Pure planet from jewish desease we should start concentration camps again.

Jahanzaib Dilawer on August 3, 2011 at 2:09 am

Words fail me. You are a disgusting human being, but I do believe in Karma and you are not exempt from it.

andrea davies on August 3, 2011 at 5:21 am

You stink of shit.

rbc on August 3, 2011 at 6:19 am

To the man two comments above, You are incorrect. You think it is o.k. to murder children peacefully protesting the murder of palestinian children. That makes you a big murderer. They just wanted to live. They were not out to get you. You are murdering kids. That is the bad kharma. They don’t hate you, they hate the murder you do. Like in the Ten Commandments. Too bad you chose the path of the Rothschilds–the work of Lucifer.

Jon on August 3, 2011 at 7:48 am

You are simply justifying the murder of children because of your political beliefs. These were not the children of anti-semitic Nazis. Opposition to the policies of Israel’s government is not anti-semitism despite what you and people like you say. Shame on you for supporting this horrible murderer’s actions.

Mal on August 3, 2011 at 9:17 am

Phew what a cesspit of bigotry this place is – if it’s not islamophobes of every description, it’s actual anti-semites! However, it is not appropriate to be blaming these murdered children and their families and their political party (which is neither communist nor nazi) for being critical of Israel – Israel is a country with policies and should not be above the criticism that every other country gets. Stop assuming that this is because everyone who is critical hates Jews.

Mal on August 3, 2011 at 9:30 am

… I don’t believe in you, miss Debbie… you misled the people…

Wenceslao C. Ubang on August 4, 2011 at 5:18 am

    Re:

    Wenceslao C. Ubang on August 4, 2011 at 5:18 am

    Examples?

    JeffE on August 7, 2011 at 11:22 am

Breivik says that he belongs neither to the right nor to the left but that he was reacting to the treasonous activity of his own government. The government would rather see Norwegian culture destroyed than open up for any possibility of being accused of being racist and it enthusiastically embraces multi-culturalism.

Philip Smeeton on August 4, 2011 at 7:11 am

You deserver to die.

Wayne on August 4, 2011 at 11:58 am

You have replaced the Norwegian flag, with a Nazi symbol? Jews were not the only ones killed by the Nazi’s.

Norway was in war for years. I am not gonna stoop to your level and attack USA or Israel wichis countries I like alot.

But to compare young Norwegian voters to HAMAS is a very sick sick thing to do. Many parties have camps in Norway not only that party, to engage youth to participate in the democracy that Norway is.

You have chosen to post a picture taken at an angle you thought benefitted your opinion, you are after all a grown woman. The picture shows some young peoples expressing their opinion, right or wrong, they are intitled to, like you are, right or wrong.But how you twist facts is an irresponsible thing of you to do especially claiming to embrace your families history

That you can say all of this and think you are hounoring your father and grandfather or anyone one else for that matter is beyond me. You seem as indoktrinated as HAMAS, you spread the same type of hate and in your brilliance you do not seem to have any understanding of how peace is created.

you have no compassion for young people who died under the hand of a terrorist, and on top of that you smear their reputation. Says things about you that I think would make any normal person twitch in shame.

Lill Andersen on August 4, 2011 at 12:25 pm

What do you know? What do you bother to find out before you print such atrocious lies? The youngsters in the rubber boat on your picture, for example, belong to another youth organisation – the Socialist Youth, and not to Labor Youth whose members were hunted down and killed in cold blood, one by one. The Labor Youth do not support Hamas, but they support free elections on the West Bank and Gaza, even if the outcome is not in line with their sympaties. Just like they accepted the election of George W. Bush even though they supportet Al Gore. Do you support or defend the right of one man to hunt down 80 young people on their island just because they do not share his – and your views? Is this how you honor American – and Norwegian – freedom of speech? I’m sorry, but you are a disgrace.

Ragnar Nordgreen (Norway) on August 4, 2011 at 12:56 pm

You Fucking People Make Me Sick

marlene olsson on August 4, 2011 at 12:58 pm

A fellow politician drew my attention to your blog. Frankly I considered it to be some kind of sick joke until I realised that your really are sincere…..

I´m chocked, stunned and upset after reading your blog from 28 july.
First of all – you, a grown up, educated person considers the brutal killing of almost 100 youngters to be ok if you think they have an opinion that is contrary to yours?
Are you for real? I find it hard to believe that somebody in your position can be THAT ignorant!
The youngsters in the camp on Utöja were members of the youth section of the leading political party of Norway, a party chosen in public election. A party that honours all peoples right to equality, all peoples right to democracy, freedom and the right to speak freely – and YOU are accusing that party for being fiendish towards jewish people and compare them with terrorists???
SHAME SHAME SHAME on you! Go home and do your homework properly – come back and speak your opinion after getting the facts righ

LJA: The Nazis were elected, too (and they had a youth section). They hated Jews as much as your friends in the AUF. Say hi to the ghost of Quisling for me. DS

Lotta Johansson Arnqvist on August 4, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    “LJA: The Nazis were elected, too (and they had a youth section). They hated Jews as much as your friends in the AUF. Say hi to the ghost of Quisling for me. DS”

    I saw you left this reply. And to JS I wanna say this.

    I realized you are not willing to listen to that AUF is not anything similar to any naziparty.Instead of reading thenew info you get to get a factual picture, you stick to the one you have to hide that you were wrong. They do not hate jews, muslims or any religious group.

    Quisling is in Norway viewed upon as a traitor, every political party does not view, in respect of history. USA contributed economically to the rebuilding of Norway after WW2. You dont seem to mention the bond that is there? Yet to bother to read about Norway’s approach to peace and politics, you blindly follow the words of a man killing 77 people that in no way was compareable to any Nazi group. In fact..

    Norway was one of the 37 countries that voted for that Israel would be taken up at the UN, and thus Norway recognized Israel as a sovereign state. From that time, Norway has been positioned as a pro-Israel in international politics, and a number of political parties stood positive toward Israel, especially Arbeiderpartiet , which had government power at the time.

    Now. How dumb are you? How ignorant? Shame on you

    Lill Andersen on August 4, 2011 at 2:59 pm

The Norwegian Labor Party’s Youth Organization is definitely on the left, but it has never celebrated Hamas. Calling for boycott of Israel (although terribly misguided) is not the same as celebrating Hamas.

Moreover, the youths waving Palestinian flags are not from the Labor Party’s Youth Organization. They’re from the “Socialist Youths,” a smaller and far more radical youth organization (How do I know this? The flag in the foreground displays their logo.)

Ole Martin Moen on August 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Ignorant cunts. Burn in hell.

alex bromann on August 4, 2011 at 1:33 pm

Debbie Schlussel: You are a disgrace to humanity. I have faith that you will meet a fate much more horrible than those innocent children did, you piece of putrid trash…..

sweetpea on August 4, 2011 at 1:39 pm

Debbie: You bring nothing but shame on yourself. You are mouthing the same hatred that inspired the killer. I disagree with these kids on a lot of things, but they never supported terrorism or violence. And they were kids. The youngest girl murdered was barely 14. However much we disagree with them or find them misguided, children are to be protected and cared for in any civilised society. But you have crossed even that line.
This post is despicable as well as ignorant, and you risk inspiring new terrorists through the hatred you spew. You are every bit as bad as mullahs preaching hatred of America and the west.
I am a great admirer of America, and try to travel there as often as I can. But I despise people like Debbie. Shame on you all. You do not represent America, you do not represent democracy or freedom. You only represent hatred and violence.

A norwegian on August 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm

To Debbie!
Reading your statement just makes me genuinely sad. Sad because your hatred towards Palestinians make you believe that any of those fighting for just peace between conflicting groups, are enemies of yours. Sad because you still seem to think that any work and attitudes supporting nuances and solutions provided all parties involved, is an attack on you and your origin.
That has never been, and is not the case. In Norway we have groups supporting both the Israelis and the Palestines.You can support Israel`s right to exist at the same time as you support Palestinian rights in the country in which they were born and fostered. Polarizing this as you do, and being so extreme in your propaganda for one of the sides against the other,escalating an already infected and severe conflict is revolting.
Blaming young Norwegian kids at a summercamp for antisemittism and basically making them responsible for their own fate is even worse. I truly hope you will come to better terms with the way you view this world, and not the least how you view your opponents. If respect, recognition and solutions are virtues for you, you have to change your ways.If you want to create more conflicts, frustration, hatred between people you are progressing in that with rapid speed!
I just hope that you also consider that you by stating this create more opposition to people like you, and that you understand that you are currently one of the contributors to keeping this wound open and very much alive!Your hatred and your actions lead to more tension, and will most likely make you even more selfrighteous. I don`t want to be there to comfort you the day you understand that you contributed a great deal to this!

Hedda Langemyr on August 4, 2011 at 2:07 pm

This blog does not even deserve a comment, but I really can’t resist.

The fact that the banner can be seen behind the Minister does not mean he supports such an approach. Many in Norway, including in Labour, indeed do, but most seem to be of the opinion that diplomatic pressure is a more fruitful approach to having Israel ending its oppression of the Palestinians in disrespect for international institutions and conventions. But please do see the first picture as a display of the freedom of speech that is enjoyed in Norway.

As for the second picture, you describe it as depicting ‘terrorists who want to kill Israeli soldiers’. It is in fact a way bto express support for the population in Gaza which lives under a blockade depriving them of chances for a life with dignity and economic development. A collective punishment by Israel against protests from the Gazans to the oppression.

Yes, individuals on the Strip shoot rockets at Israeli towns and villages and that should be condemned. Israel responds with strikes that normally kill a hundred times as many people, and that should be hundredfold condemned.

Such condemnation does not entail a recognition of Hamas or their protest approach. (Much can be said about Hamas and their lack of recognition of Israel – I understand them as not recognising Israel in its current form where it occupies land beyond the 1967 borders – but I won’t discuss that matter further, because that is not the issue here.)

As long as Israel does not respect internationally recognised borders, halt its opression and denial of proper democratic rights to the Palestinian population, or engage in credible efforts to reach a peaceful solution, the country will not acquire, and does not deserve, any friends.

Even the Norwegian Labour party, which traditionally has been among Israel’s strongest supporters, has by now been turned off by its behaviour.

Maybe Israel’s supporters instead should try a little bit of self-reflection; could it possibly be a reason why Israel does not seem to have any real friends anymore?

This has nothing to do with hatred of Jews or antisemittism, as he author suggests. It has to do with human rights. When we se violation of human rights, then it is our obligation to speak out against it, and this is the case whether the perpetrators are Jews, Muslims, Serbs, or whatever. In this case, the campers duly do so against the behaviour of the Israeli government.

It is utterly tasteless to attempt to score political points on this disaster. Fortunately, Norwegian media and politicians have completely abstained from doing so. I would wish the owner of this blog also have some respect for the victims, before presenting them as neo-Nazis.

Lars on August 4, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Norway was one of the 37 countries that voted for that Israel would be taken up at the UN, and thus Norway recognized Israel as a sovereign state. From that time, Norway has been positioned as a pro-Israel in international politics, [1] and a number of political parties stood positive toward Israel, especially Labor, which had government power at the time

labor= AP= AUF

Lill Andersen on August 4, 2011 at 3:09 pm

That’s a very offensive comparison.
I am a Norwegian Jew and I can tell you that I am treated by respect, by the government and even by my Muslim friends.

Norwegians know the difference between Jews and Israelis, and that they do not hate Israelis, but rather that some Norwegians disagree with actions taken by Israel.

Daniel B on August 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm

Vai a farti fottore..

Your logic is so flawed that I wonder how the hell anyone can get that brainwashed. What happened cannot be undone. By suggesting what you’re doing, you are just adding your own signature on the retards waiting list – queue up people MORE RETARDS INCOMING!

I see a lot of supportive comments here and I can’t do anything but shake my head in disgust. Political religious freaks. That’s what you all are – poisoned by written words in your search to find meaning with this life.

If people feel like they need a crutch in live to keep them going, sure go ahead.. Personally, I see religion as a weakness for humanity.

Two interesting logic failures you made here:

1) Not condoning the attacks (how very nice of you..)
2) Stating that we should not sympathize with the kids (wait what?!)

And I repeat.. KIDS.. K-i-d-s.. They are fucking kids! Aged from 9 and up.. KIDS.. They deserved to die? You have to be shitting me?

Words can be dangerous. Have your opinion, I hope you choke on it.

We believe in freedom of speech. However, trying to justify what that fucking loser did, you are not any better than him. You might claim that you’re not justifying it, but that’s exactly what you’re doing here in the end. Just flare those colours of ignorance.

The funny part is that you, based on one picture from two highly unreliable sources managed to give a bullshit conclusion. Do your research, lazy cunt.

And I repeat.. Vai a farti fottere..

R2D2 on August 4, 2011 at 5:38 pm

Be prepared for the REAL holocaust. We must succeed where Hitler failed, Inshallah… http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/02/muslims-duty-is-to-exterminate-jews-in.html

Trencherbone on August 4, 2011 at 5:41 pm

It’s a sad thing that you are given a column to spread such ill-fated thoughts. I truly condemn you, for bringing more hatred into the world. You are, from an intellectual point of view, a true Moran – good luck!

A proud and sound Norwegian!

Magnus

Magnus dahlen on August 4, 2011 at 7:31 pm

It is a beautiful thing, democracy. Its a beautiful thing when children see the value of it, wanting to excercise their right to express their opinions, meet others with differing opinions, debate how to make a better society. Thats what they do in these camps. They are learning how to be politicians in a democratic society. When children see the value of this it gives me hope for the future. I would think you as an american would to. “what goes around comes around”? I strongly advice you to check your premises.

Andreas Høstmælingen on August 4, 2011 at 7:39 pm

I wrote the following two pages earlier here. I am reprinting it for the benefit of those who missed it, with one minor edit:

<<To the Norwegians who posted here trolling against Debbie and finding the truth that she reported to be hurtful, I want to post the kind of response that the Norwegians should instead be making in response to this post:

“On behalf of all Norwegians, we want to apologize to both Israel and the Jewish people for the way that we have been acting. We were mindlessly opposed to Israel and supported boycotts and worse against Israel and excused the Palestinian terrorist acts against Israel by citing what we wrongly believe to be Israel’s occupation of the territories that Israel captured in 1967 and that we mindlessly wanted to believe the Palestinian Arabs to be the good guys in the conflict and Israel the bad guys. Now that we suffered a terrorist attack, we now know how Israel must feel and how much pain that they must feel everytime we excuse the terror attacks against them. Our knowledge of the history of Israel and the Arab-Israeli conflict only dates to the 1940?s, or at most, the 1900?s for those most educated among us. We will rectify this by studying the history of Israel and the Arab-Israeli conflict going back to its origins studying not only the Bible, but also secular histories and study websites like this one. In the meanwhile, we will now be supportive of Israel and recognize its right to exist and fight against anyone trying to destroy her.

Once again, our apologies to Israel and the Jewish people.”

good start would then be made by reading from the following links:

On the origins of so-called “Palestine”:

http://tinyurl.com/3b6kaw8

(to be continued/concluded)

JeffE on August 4, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Cont’d/concluded from my 9:34 pm post:

    How Israel’s history didn’t start in 1947 (or even 1900):

    http://tinyurl.com/3h39w5x >>

    JeffE on August 4, 2011 at 9:36 pm

So let me get this straight – you’re not saying it was OK to kill the kids, because I mean, look at how terrible their policies are, so there are two sides to every story?

I mean, you’re condoning the slaughter of children for political disagreement. Take a good solid look in the mirror and have a good think about what you’re writing, woman.

Our organization’s hero figure, the “father of the nation”, is Einar Gerhardsen, a prime minister who with many other members of the government of ’45 literally travelled straight from Sachsenhausen or Grini into government. Before the shooting I sang yiddish songs around the bonfire. I am a huge fan of Jewish culture. Disagreement with Israel’s policies does not make me an anti-semite, no matter how hard you imply it for your own political gains.

Despite the major elephant in the room that is that you’re actually condoning the massacre of children who disagree politically with you – think about that for a while, please – I’d like to make a correction. The second picture is of a different and unrelated political organization. SU is not AUF. In fact, I’ve spent most of this evening arguing agitatedly over a couple of beers with someone from SU.

Tore on August 4, 2011 at 9:46 pm

You’re hatred for peaceful protesters is sad and I pray for your soul.

Jenn E on August 5, 2011 at 12:13 am

I am a Jew whose now deceased brother-in-law was one of the ethnic cleansers who as a member of the Palmach committed a war crime when at gunpoint he and the other members of the the Palmach drove the people from several villages in northern Israel from their homes into Lebanon. He described to me how they went into the houses in the middle of the night, forced the people from their homes and without even allowing them to put on their shoes made them march away forever from their homes. I asked him if there had been any attacks from these Arabs. His answer was “no.” I asked him why the Palmach did this. HIs response was “we wanted the land and we didn’t want them on it.” I didn’t ask him if he killed anyone. Like the good Germans of only a few years earlier, I just didn’t want to know.

Debbie, you are a disgrace to humanity. Your show your total ignorance and your love for Israeli brutality and Israeli theft of Palestinian land. While I don’t like Hamas I place the blame for Hamas directly at the feet of Isael. There was no Hamas until after 20 years of Israel’s brutal occupation of the West Bank. After Arafat recognized Israel and Israel continued with its brutality and its land theft other Palestinians saw that Israel was never going to give up any of the West Bank.

As for the young people in Norway I defy you to find a sign that praises Hamas. THese young people, as many of all ages around the world, including me, sympathize with the people of Gaza who Israel has imprisoned in the world’s largest outdoor prison. They cannot leave. Fishermen are shot at and often killed if they venture anywhere near the 3 mile line that Israel has set which insures that the fishermen cannot get a decent catch. Anyone venturing within a certain distance of the prison fence is shot by trigger ahppy IDF thugs. Not long ago a grandfather, his 15 year old grandson and a friend were murdered by the IDF as they went to tend thei4 fields.

As for the flotilla it was Israeli terrorists who shot first and not the people on the Mavi Marmara who had no guns, no tear gas, no sound bombs. Several of the people who were murdered by Israel on the Mavi Marmara were shot at point blank. One of the murdered people was shot as he was filming what was happening. Obviously the IDF didn’t want any proof of what they were doing. And to ensure that they stole all the cameras, celll phones and whatever could be used to record the truth.

For you to condemn these young people for praising the flotillas which are not meant to support Hamas but to support the imprisoned people of Gaza to whom Israel denies many medicines and even toys and chocolate. I know hou don’t give a damn about any Palestinians and would be happy to see them all dead but I do and so do many others in the world.

You and the Pamela Gellers and your ilk are a disgrace. You are not worth even the little finger of one of their dead Norwegians. Shame on you.

Janice on August 5, 2011 at 12:13 pm

Wow. That’s vile. I reckon you personally do more to create Jew-hatred than any of the people you mention. Fortunately I have enough nice Jewish friends to realise you are anything but typical, but do you ever wonder how you come across to people who have no real dealings with Jews beyond getting their breakfast bagel?

Variable on August 5, 2011 at 5:12 pm

I can do nothing but support what you say..
I don’t know what’s wrong with people.. Can’t you see what’s happening?
I would like people to open their eyes and see what this woman is trying to say

mayuu on August 5, 2011 at 8:53 pm

How hard is it to distinguish between the state of Israel and Jews?

Antisemitism must be one of the most misused words out there. Just watch the documentary Defamation/Hashmatsa. You want a modern equivalent to Hitler Jugend? Then look no further than the indoctrination of young Isralists.

Max Manus on August 7, 2011 at 7:43 am

To Debbie!
I truly feel sad for you. How can you hate children you don’t know anything about? You found a couple of photos on the internet and created a story full of hate about them. But if you had known anything about them you would also know that the second photo is not even of youth from the Workers’ Youth League, they are flagging the logo of the Socialist Youth League. You are ignorant indeed, neither of these youth organisation hate Jews, they don’t hate Muslims either. In fact they don’t really hate anyone, they just want to make the world a more just and peaceful place, and in that they are opposing Israel’s policies towards Palestinians, that is very far from being anti-Semitic. To oppose some of Israel’s policies is not the same as supporting Hamas. I disagree with the Workers’ Youth League on a lot of issues, I represent a different political party. But I do support their freedom of speech, and I know these children were fighting for their ideas of a better society in a democratic and peaceful way. There is absolutely no excuse for murdering them, non what so ever, they did not spread hatred in any way – they just wanted a better world. You try to score some cheap points by creating a story about them that is not true, and only shows how little you know about Norway and about peacemaking. It makes me wonder if what you want is hatred, destruction and death. If it is not so, you should consider more carefully what you write about others. I am truly sad for you. Your world seems so dark, so colourless and full of hatred, whereas it might be full of light, colours and good intentions – as the world of these youth were.

Hanna E, Marcussen, Norway on August 8, 2011 at 3:56 am

    Hanna E, Marcussen, Norway,

    Congratulations, since you are the latest person to come here and criticize Debbie for what she wrote in this column, I have a test for you to test your credibility. You claim that the Workers’ Youth League doesn’t hate Jews–and presumably you don’t either. Well, to prove that at least you don’t, here’s a test. On the top of this current page is a super anti-Semitic screed posted by “KimWSmith” who wants who tells lies about the Jewish people, including making a self-contradictory statement and wants Jews to be “exterminated”–meaning murdered. Abdullah is in love with her because of her reprehensible comment, and “Sam Goldstein” who claims to be Jewish but is probably a Muslim–unless he really is Jewish and wants to be himself “exterminated” by the likes of the two aforementioned individuals. I have left them alone and not responded to them. This is your chance to do the job. Condemn them for these statements, and then I, along with others reading this–both who comment and those who don’t–will take you seriously. If you pass this test, then I have a follow-up. Otherwise you will have exposed yourself as being a hypocrite.

    JeffE on August 8, 2011 at 7:56 am

these zionist jews should rot in hell just like you debs…slag.

usanal on August 8, 2011 at 7:51 am

    Genesis 12:1-3.

    JeffE on August 8, 2011 at 8:03 am

I thought Hitler was wrong in killing “innocent” Jews…but there are some Jews who provoked him for sure. One them was this bit”ch’s garndfather…LOL! So now I am thinking twice about Hitler himself…He might be right! What is a surprise if HAMAS destroys a collection of people who think like her let alone slaughtering her?

What a withc!!!

Juho on August 8, 2011 at 2:05 pm

Surely some of these comments,particularly the first one are inciting and racially based abues

Joy Wolfe on August 8, 2011 at 4:42 pm

In case it was not clear to readers, my comment was for KimWSSmith. I wish to add the following for his/her attention:
To Kim W Smith of the SS: You better hurry to your papa Satan’s arms otherwise you will suffer the fate of your fellow ‘human’ devils (as set out by the Prophet Zecharia in the Bible) amongst all those nations who come against Israel-Judea in the Gog and MaGog (Armageddon) war: “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a blazing torch among sheaves and they shall devour to the Left and to the Right all the [enemy] nations around them….and the Lord will give victory to the tents of Judah first….On that day the Lord will put a shield around Jerusalem…and will seek to destroy all the nations that come against it…[Zechariah 1:6-10]…And this shall be the Plague with which the Lord shall smite all the nations that wage war against Jerusalem: their feet shall rot while they stand, their eyes shall rot in their sockets and their tongues shall rot in their mouths…[Zecharia 14:1-19]” I guess you’ll look better when that happens to you and all the other devil’s spawn that pollute God’s earth.

Tee Gee on August 9, 2011 at 5:11 am

I was shocked & upset by Breivik’s attack on fellow Norwegians,
especially against youngsters. That was unforgivable even if their politics and hatreds offended him (as they do me). There is always hope that even the most heavily brainwashed children will grow up and start to investigate other versions of what they have been told is the truth (as happened after 70 years of brainwashing in Soviet Russia, etc) and they should be given that chance even if, especially amongst the anti-semitic far right and far left (birds of a feather where Jews and Israel are concerned) there isn’t much hope that most of them will ever be able to overcome the anti-Jew doctrines of lies & libels to which they’ve been exposed.
Another nauseating reaction amongst so many like SS KimW is how they profess to feel such pity for children who are killed by political/religious fanatics such as Breivik but NEVER for Jewish (Israeli and other) children killed by their enemies. SS KimWmith and its racist, murderous neo-Nazi ilk on this website, and other neo-nazi/Islamic Jihadist, websites never, ever feel pity for murdered Jewish children – not for the 1.5 million Jewish children murdered by their fellow monsters in Europe (incl. some sent from Norway). Nor do they feel sorry for the hundreds of Israeli Jewish children killed before and during and after the Oslo ‘peace’ treay, by ‘palestinian’ nazis. They even try to cover their glee on the Jewish children’s deaths at the hands of racist, murderous
‘palestinians’ by saying — well, the numbers of dead Israeli children are less than that of ‘palestinian’ children. Even if that was true, which it isn’t as the numbers of ‘innocent’ dead ‘palestinians’ is often just one more of 1001 Arabian fantasies, it would be because (1) the Israelis don’t use their children as human shields like the palestinians do (esp. Hamas/PLO/Fatah and even Lebanon’s Hizbullah). Also, more Israeli children would have been killed in Sderot, or in the north of Israel by the thousands of missiles sent there the past few years, had Israel not ensured there were enough shelters which the residents could reach as quickly as possible when sirens go off warning that missiles are on the way from Gaza (or Lebanon).

Tee Gee on August 9, 2011 at 6:04 am

I tried to post a comment earlier about Vidkun Quisling (Norwegian Nazi leader) and who he was, but it has seemingly not reached the site.

In the meanwhile, JeffE wants us Norwegians to sign this declaration:

“On behalf of all Norwegians, we want to apologize to both Israel and the Jewish people for the way that we have been acting. We were mindlessly opposed to Israel and supported boycotts and worse against Israel and excused the Palestinian terrorist acts against Israel by citing what we wrongly believe to be Israel’s occupation of the territories that Israel captured in 1967 and that we mindlessly wanted to believe the Palestinian Arabs to be the good guys in the conflict and Israel the bad guys. Now that we suffered a terrorist attack, we now know how Israel must feel and how much pain that they must feel everytime we excuse the terror attacks against them. Our knowledge of the history of Israel and the Arab-Israeli conflict only dates to the 1940?s, or at most, the 1900?s for those most educated among us. We will rectify this by studying the history of Israel and the Arab-Israeli conflict going back to its origins studying not only the Bible, but also secular histories and study websites like this one. In the meanwhile, we will now be supportive of Israel and recognize its right to exist and fight against anyone trying to destroy her.

Once again, our apologies to Israel and the Jewish people.”

I can sign parts of it, other parts not. First of all, I want to ask for apologize for what our gouvernment is doing towards Israel, and I want to make it clear that they never asked me first, if this was what to say to Israel.

I think also JeffE should know that there is a strong pro Israel movement in Norway, even though with little political influence. But those sympathizing with this movement both knows that Israeli history dates back some thousand years before 1948 and they have never supported any kind of boycott against Israel.

But what is also so important, is that this terror attac should have learned all Norwegians how it feels for Israel to be attaced by terrorists. Debbie treats us the way our gouvernment tend to treat Israel after a terrorist attac, but unfortunately, it is hard for most of the Norwegians commenting here, that that is actually what she does.

Ingvar Åberge (in Norway) on August 12, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Ingvar Åberge (in Norway),

    Thank you for your reply. My part about saying that Norwegians know only about the history of Israel dating only to 1947 or at the earliest to around 1900 applies only to those Norwegians who have stated anti-Israel–and in some cases anti-Semitic–views. Based on not only what the Norwegian government has said and done, but also on what the Norwegians have said here until your post–and at least one (or two) more after you, I think that I can be forgiven for mistakenly thinking that they represent the views of all Norwegians. As for you and other Norwegians like you who are pro-Israel, you and your movement already are educated about Israel and therefore are exempt from my saying that the Norwegians have only limited historical knowledge about Israel.

    JeffE on August 14, 2011 at 9:09 pm

ha ha ha..you stupid cunt!very obvious you don’t know shit about Norwegian politics or it’s institutions.all comments on Utøya being a indoctrination ‘camp’ is just stupid.PERIOD.please learn to check your facts not only your basic rectal emotions.
why must every stupid looser open they’r mouth just because they can?
any idiot can have an opinion but it does not make it true just because it can be formulated by someone obviously more focused on they’r self esteem and image than facts.
what a fucking mess.
and fuck off to all you idiot anti jews/israel/semites.my god can you not differentiate one bit?

jwoslo on August 12, 2011 at 7:57 pm

Cant you zionists ever get this through your thick heads once and for all: PEOPLE WHO CRITIZICE ISRAEL ARE NOT RACIST

They just dont approve that people who had been living in countries like russia and poland should be able to claim a new country in the middle east based from a vauge decent from THOUSANDS of years back in history. Show some humidity, youve stolen another peoples country

Joshua Grey on August 14, 2011 at 12:13 am

Norwegian Jews have protested against that Norwegian bashing that some people are pushing forward. I think that comparing the Norwegian flag with nazism is extremism and that tells us more about people doing such things, than about Norway. Islamists also enjoy desecrating other nations flags.I think that Norway here are experiencing “anti-Norwegianism”. Behind that mecanism is the same thinking that is behind antisemittism. This mecanism might occur against other the small couytries on the globe as well. Against the bigger countries you wouldn’t dare. The price is to high.

Kinga on August 15, 2011 at 3:30 am

Debbie Schlussel: pro-apartheid, pro-child murder, pro-terrorism (if the perpetrator is white/conservative), Islamophobe, lies about the dead. I’ve never heard of you before, but you sound like a lovely person. Let’s see what else there is.

“In 2011, Schlussel provoked controversy by suggesting that CBS reporter Lara Logan deserved the sexual assault she suffered while covering the protests in Egypt.[22]
After the killing of Osama bin Laden, Schlussel wrote on her blog “1 down, 1.8 billion more to go”.”

Hahahaha holy shit what the fuck is this

Add homophobic, pro-rape, and pro-genocide to the list. No wonder you’re attacking the victims, looking at Breivik must be like looking in a goddamn mirror. How do you have the gall to write an article like this? Woody Guthrie said it pretty well: you’re bound to lose, you fascists, bound to lose.

Joseph Henthorn on August 17, 2011 at 7:24 am

You’re a fascist, ma’am.

Joseph Henthorn on August 17, 2011 at 7:28 am

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