July 28, 2011, - 1:34 pm

Karma?: Norway Camp Breivik Shot Up Celebrated HAMAS, Jew-Hatred

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE: Karma #2: Norway Utoya Camp Was Also FATAH PLO Terrorist Camp ****

It’s trite but true:  a picture’s worth a thousand words.  And the Norwegian newspaper pictures from the “political youth camp” at Utoya Island, Norway–the day before terrorist Anders Behring Breivik attacked it–say it all.  The boycott sign is obvious, and the other pic is a game, re-enacting of the HAMAS flotilla in which terrorists tried to murder Israeli soldiers (complete with Palestinian flags and Norwegian kids’ smiles).  These kids who were killed by a terrorist . . . well, they sided with Islamic terrorists.  Look at the photos brought to our attention by Zalmi’s Weblog, and they appeared on Norwegian news site Politisk, right before the attacks.  Read all the insightful details provided by the astute Zalmi, who notes that the man in the pic happily encountering the boycott sign is Norway’s Foreign Minister Gahre-Store, who went on to praise Palestinian terrorists and condemn Israel.

“Victims” or Perpetrators?: Norwegian HAMASniks Join Norway Foreign Minister @ Utoya Island Camp

Funny how Glenn Beck has come  under attack for comparing the camp to a Hitler Youth camp.  Based on these pics, seems like he’s spot on, though he should have added, HAMAS Youth camp, too. As we all know, Nazis boycotted Jews and were Jew-killers.  And these hateful, privileged brats at the camp boycotted Jews and sided with Jew-killers.  I don’t condone violent massacres on innocent civilians, and I condemn what Breivik did. He is a terrorist just like the 9/11 hijackers, Hezbollah, HAMAS, and Nidal Malik Hasan.  But what goes around comes around.  You support terrorists against innocent civilians in Israel, then you get attacked by terrorists who are upset with your support.

For me, this is like Alien v. Predator.  I’m not  sad for either side.  And I make no apologies for it.  Now these kids’ families know what it feels like to be victims of the Islamic terrorists whose Judenrein boycotts and terrorist flotillas against Israel they support.  We don’t live in a vacuum.  I can’t feel sorry for those who support my would-be assassins.  And I don’t get too upset when they face the karma that is their fate.  HAMAS isn’t just against Israel, it’s against all Jews . . . and all Christians.  Just ask the Christians who’ve had to flee Gaza for their lives.  And read the HAMAS charter.  I’ll bet that’s something these spoiled airheaded kids with their Boycott Israel signs and HAMAS flotilla re-enactment games never did.

Frankly, the HAMAS charter and HAMAS’ behavior, all of which these kids at the Norwegian HAMAS youth camp cheered on, is a lot more scary than the screed and deeds of Breivik.

My late grandfather, a Holocaust survivor, never shed a tear for dead Nazis.  My late father, a Vietnam era Army veteran, never shed a tear for those who supported the killing of Americans and Jews. And I shed no tears for these HAMASnik campers with a Scandinavian dialect. Perpetrators are not victims. Sorry. HAMAS collaborators don’t get my pity. They never will.

Again, you must read Zalmi’s important piece on this, which provides far more detail on these “victims” of terrorism who celebrated terrorism against other victims.

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487 Responses

The World sees Zionists for the racist pack of lying murderers they are.

It’s not “terrorism” when YOU guys do it, huh?
Like the bombing of the King David Hotel, or the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty? Or 9/11?

The world is waking up to what Zionism is all about. Good, honest Jews should distance themselves from Zionism ASAP.

Mr. Joe on August 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm


Can people stop with this Hitler charade already, it is well known that he was Jewish as was many of his cronies and furthermore over 150,000 Jews in his army!

Ashke-Nazi get it, that’s where Nazi really comes from and NOT the German Democratic Socialist Workers Party!

Hitler opposed Communist lead Jews, or should i say the German people remembered the Jewish lead Communist attempt to take over!

Debbie is being honest, she is was she is.

Noble Lord on August 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm

I teach my children that there is no such thing as a “Master Race” NOR is there
any such thing as a “Chosen People” – the Nazis believed they were the master race and the zionists believe they are the chosen people. Therefore I am opposed to both the nazis and the zionists.

Chris on August 2, 2011 at 1:06 pm

I’m so outraged at this swine bitch that I had to weigh in. We are sick of the Zionist psychotic mind set. To note the Zionist have laughed at 911 alo9ng with other horrible things THEY have done around the world.
If you research the Jewish History (real History, not Zionist rewriting history) you will see why the Jews have been tossed out of every country they have been in!!!!! Research how Judism called war against Germany because Hitler was protecting Germany’s trashed economy and through out the Zionist banksters. Far from being victims, Zionist want to destroy all non-jews. Read the Talmud… it’s actually quite frightening. Now, look at the economics of the world right now… see who the banksters and world leaders pushing for more war and less money for the people…. JEWS!!!! History repeats itself. Now, let me guess what’s going to happen next as the Zioinsts keep pushing the people.?

Lauren Cresap on August 2, 2011 at 1:25 pm

Oh wow – Zionists are always right, they are the supreme race, oh wait – that does sound familiar, oh yea, Nazi said that too. So, with all the tyranny, terrorism, and hatred that Israel is spewing, they will have it coming soon, according to your logic, right? Sweet – can’t wait to see that!!

Ron on August 2, 2011 at 1:30 pm

I have to repeat this as it seems most people missed it:

The second picture is NOT from Utøya and it’s NOT the AUF. It’s SU (Socialist Youth) demonstrating against the blockade of Gaza. I’m not even sure this happened in 2011. I’m living in norway and have no idea what context that picture has been taken (it’s mostly a non-event), but the “SU” flag is proof enough. Anyway, SU is a much more “leftie” party than the Labor youth ever has been, but even they aren’t supporters of terror or violence just because they disagree with the politics of the state of Israel, and they are NOT anti semites.

Including pictures that have nothing to do with the story is not only bad journalism, it’s pure propaganda.

Living in Norway, I have met very few jews, but if all jews are like Debbie Schlussel, I don’t want to meet jews anyway…

Thankfully, I’m quite sure that most jews are in fact NOT like Debbie, and I hope that “normal” jews (perhaps moderate is a better word, but you know what I mean) distance themselves from people like her.

PS: Did you see what I did there at the end? I was able to differentiate between an individual and a whole people… Zionist supremacists like DS should try it some day.

TruthBeTold on August 2, 2011 at 1:52 pm

Wow you played all the cards there. Self hating Jew Anti semites

Anti- Semites meaning anti semarian, Are you from Semaria, Are you from the original tribes of abraham, if not them shut up and try not to use a trump card which does not involve you. The leaders of Israel have gone too far again and yet again they were caught. Going off to say they deserved it is the most disgusting words I have ever heard. I’m sure you would be singing a different tune if it was your child killed at a yom kipper event, we could in turn say they deserved it, they are penis lovin khazars or something else totally off beat from what really happened…….. Carma is a bitch

pj on August 2, 2011 at 2:33 pm

There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian values. The two ideologies are at mutually exclusive ends of the pole.

If Christians would actually read the Bible, they would learn that there are no lost tribes and God reunited His Israel in Assyrian captivity. Jesus wasn’t a Jew but called them the children of the devil.

He was sent to redeem God’s Israel and flatly told the damned Jews they were not of His flock. He also told them they were not of Abraham.

There was no holocaust as described by these lying hypocrites.

Remember, the Devil is an enchanter and can quote scripture and so can the god damned Jews. They have infiltrated our Christian institutions to the point they have turned Christian Pastors into false prophets supporting their ‘Israel’. Support ‘Israel’ and support Satan in the world.

These murdering bastards deserve what they claim they received in Nazi Germany but they actually perpetrated in Russia.

Dennis Joyce on August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Karma is gonna be a bitch chosenites.

f8te on August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

We are seeing more and more of this stripe of rabid Jewish racism toward Arabs. It is an odd and irrational vanity that the Zionist Jews adhere to; it is without historical context, and it is dangerous. The Arab bashing so eagerly adopted by the servile Gentiles, may one day turn upon the Jewish purveyors of this brand of hate mongering. It has happened before. For decent Jews who place their humanity above their Jewishness, it would behoove you to renounce all provocations to racist hatred–lest the tide changes.

Jude on August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

You disgusting, hateful bitch. When the backlash occurs, who will weep for you?

Billy Wilson on August 2, 2011 at 4:49 pm

I have no bias either way…but the financial and political influence of Jewish and Christian Zionist will come to an end in the near future. Historically this type of burden on any people and now the Muslims will falter and the burden will return to the Zionist. History will repeat itself very soon. The political powers we have at hand are very weak and are in great danger of losing their power, wealth, and influence in the near future.

CHURCHILL on August 2, 2011 at 6:24 pm

And Debbie, you are a truly repulsive, repugnant individual, Chosen or not. And you look as Semitic as an Eskimo. Khazar (faux Semite) maybe?

Paul on August 2, 2011 at 6:37 pm

As the daughter of parents and grandparents that were Holocaust survivors, I know of where I speak. Many of my aunts and uncles were also survivors. I can’t listen to their stories of the death camps very long, but they all say I must listen to qualify as a survivor also. We cannot let the Muslims have their own nation or sphere of influence. Expansionist Israel will stop them, if only to protect their expanding borders. Gaza and Lebanon will be next as their shores contain Israel’s oil and gas.

Wong Key on August 2, 2011 at 7:09 pm

i think you zionist should start looking for a back door to leave
the american people are starting to wake up to you.
there not going to take much more,
no matter how much blood money
you pump at them or anyone else.

your days are numberded….. me thinks!!!

tic toc tic toc tic toc tic toc

thehumanrace on August 2, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Translating your Orwellian language to normal language, you are saying that the Americans are starting to fall for the anti-Semitic lies.

    Well, I don’t think so. And G-d forbid that that should ever happen.

    JeffE on August 2, 2011 at 9:44 pm

You are one of the most despicable Nazi Zionist whores to date. I hope you and your ilk find a resting place at the bottom of a septic tank.
It’s a shame that Adolph Hitler didn’t really have a “final solution” for your kind of Russian Bolshevik filth. If there really were “death camps”: you wouldn’t be here now.
I really wish Hitler had such a pogrom like the one Nazi israel currently has for the peaceful Palestinian people. If he had: none of your ilk would have escaped and lived to rape and terrorize the planet.
You should be turned into a vegetable and locked away from all human contact.
I hope someone finds a way to massacre every Nazi child in that fascist theocracy of Apartheid israel.
You animals are devoid of all human qualities. The only ones who like your filth are serial killers, kike bankers and pedophiles. Even Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin were better people than your kind.
With “friends” like you who steal national security technology and sell it to China, attack American interests like the WTC on 911, and the USS Liberty in 1967, and murder children for organ procurement: who needs enemies?
You are as sick and evil as a rabid jackal and should be “put down” before you infect some ones child.

KimWSSmith on August 2, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Islam is the New Fascism !

    We don’t want No Scum Islam In Europe and We do Know Why:

    “Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism ”


    Mallory on August 3, 2011 at 10:06 am

    KimWSSmith, would love to speak to you,
    Where do you live?
    please write me an email at doriangitelman@yahoo.com
    Would love to chat with you

    Abdulllah on August 4, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Israel is the only Jewish state, it allows the average person to see the Jews for what monsters they truly are. Israel is locked in a box and the harder the Muslims the worse they look, if they act weak the Muslims will destroy them utterly. Its only a matter of time before they unleash the Sampson option and truly become the most hated race of them all.

    AngryMan9000 on August 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm


    I Love you! Thanks for expressing your views. They are shared by the plurality of the world.

    Sam Goldstein on August 5, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      Wow. The depths of anti-semitism here are amazing. I don’t think the posters here are a random sample of humanity, but the left needs to take a hard look at itself and admit its faults: anti-semitism has a cozy home in left-wing politics.

      JHOW on August 6, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    You, like a few other racists and perverts on this comment column, are the epitome of the most evil, disgusting, murderous ‘humans’ ever to inhabit this planet. I guess you are just longing to return to Satan, your father, in his red-hot palace way down under. I wish you a quick journey back there as soon as possible, taking the rest of your hate-filled, hateful kind with you. Don’t forget to take tons of sun-block just in case your pasty, overwhite skins are too delicate to withstand the boiling fire and brimstone heat.

    Tee Gee on August 9, 2011 at 4:46 am

The simple common sense fact is that Israel was created by people mostly from places like Poland and Russia
over the land where indiginous Muslims, Christians, and Jews coexisted without violence for
hundreds of years. There was no terrorism issue in the middle east until 1948 when Israel was created.

The existence of Israel is a biblical myth imposed by outsiders on to local indiginous people.
The had no more business creating Israel in the middle east than in any other place such as New Jersey.
Another way to clarify this is to point that Europeans creating Israel in the Middle East is just as
ridiculous as Chinese Muslims asserting a right to create a Muslim country in the Middle East for themselves.

Zero on August 2, 2011 at 9:22 pm

Those who still have not figured out by 2008 or later that the 911 incident was a collaboration between Israel and members of the Bush administration do not know anything of significance regarding modern day events.

Zero on August 2, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Re: Zero on August 2, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Here, let me fix your statement for you so that it becomes truthful [my brackets].

    “Those who still [think] [as of] 2008 or later [or even earlier] that the 911 incident was [somehow] a collaboration between Israel and members of the Bush administration do not know anything of significance regarding modern day events.”

    There, that’s better.

    You’re welcome.

    JeffE on August 2, 2011 at 10:01 pm



    Stop Islam on August 3, 2011 at 10:09 am

If a Jew commits an atrocity (say he burns children to death with white phosphorous) and I condemn this act as vicious barbarism, there are fanatical, rabid, Zio-Nazis, like Debbie Schlussel, who will call me antisemitic, a Jew-hater.

Early Zionists, in rare moments of honesty, admitted that they knew what they were doing to the Palestinians was wrong and they would concede that they could understand the Palestinians’ hatred of them. Modern Zionists seem to have lost that ability.

The hell that Zionists inflict on the Palestinians on a daily basis doesn’t even exist in their minds or they really don’t care. The only thing they see is any act of retaliation by the Palestinians on Israelis. This is called terrorism and the cause is always simply Jew-hating.

This may simply be a tactic. A way to exploit this phony “War on Terror” or it could be a form of psychosis, a product of the vicious Zionist project. In any case the words of someone like Debbie should be rejected as the rantings of a lunatic.

Horatio on August 2, 2011 at 9:34 pm


    [“…In any case the words of someone like Debbie should be rejected as the rantings of a lunatic.”

    Horatio on August 2, 2011 at 9:34 pm]

    YOU are the lunatic, Horatio. Everything that you wrote there is a lie!

    JeffE on August 2, 2011 at 10:41 pm

You are a callous turd. You only would defend your religion’s children. May that curse infect your life. A war crime is a war crime. Killing innocents is KILLING even if they are goyim.

Jon Witowi on August 2, 2011 at 10:39 pm

Ahhhh…..so many falsehoods and half-truths from both sides. The truth is Israel has the right to exist…but so does Palestine. And they need to work out their differences between themselves and leave the US out of it. We’re headed for broke and have a few things at home to fix. We can no longer be the world’s policeman getting between petulant children. The Cold War is won, time to get out of our bases around the world. It is time both sides grow up and high time the US leave the Mid-East region to its own devices. We have wasted precious blood and treasure fighting wars far from our own shores. A shot of isolationism would do this country good.

Michael F. on August 2, 2011 at 10:49 pm

These stupids Israeel lovers write and think that they gonna get postive remarks and sympathies. But wht they are really getting a shit. They do not have sympathy over other people and kills even kids. Takeout the statistics of deaths of Palestenins before 9/11. These ugly jews are destroying the whole world economy and making people dependant on the new terms they invents almost daily. I think to Pure planet from jewish desease we should start concentration camps again.

Jahanzaib Dilawer on August 3, 2011 at 2:09 am

Words fail me. You are a disgusting human being, but I do believe in Karma and you are not exempt from it.

andrea davies on August 3, 2011 at 5:21 am

You stink of shit.

rbc on August 3, 2011 at 6:19 am

To the man two comments above, You are incorrect. You think it is o.k. to murder children peacefully protesting the murder of palestinian children. That makes you a big murderer. They just wanted to live. They were not out to get you. You are murdering kids. That is the bad kharma. They don’t hate you, they hate the murder you do. Like in the Ten Commandments. Too bad you chose the path of the Rothschilds–the work of Lucifer.

Jon on August 3, 2011 at 7:48 am

You are simply justifying the murder of children because of your political beliefs. These were not the children of anti-semitic Nazis. Opposition to the policies of Israel’s government is not anti-semitism despite what you and people like you say. Shame on you for supporting this horrible murderer’s actions.

Mal on August 3, 2011 at 9:17 am

Phew what a cesspit of bigotry this place is – if it’s not islamophobes of every description, it’s actual anti-semites! However, it is not appropriate to be blaming these murdered children and their families and their political party (which is neither communist nor nazi) for being critical of Israel – Israel is a country with policies and should not be above the criticism that every other country gets. Stop assuming that this is because everyone who is critical hates Jews.

Mal on August 3, 2011 at 9:30 am

… I don’t believe in you, miss Debbie… you misled the people…

Wenceslao C. Ubang on August 4, 2011 at 5:18 am


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    JeffE on August 7, 2011 at 11:22 am

Breivik says that he belongs neither to the right nor to the left but that he was reacting to the treasonous activity of his own government. The government would rather see Norwegian culture destroyed than open up for any possibility of being accused of being racist and it enthusiastically embraces multi-culturalism.

Philip Smeeton on August 4, 2011 at 7:11 am

You deserver to die.

Wayne on August 4, 2011 at 11:58 am

You have replaced the Norwegian flag, with a Nazi symbol? Jews were not the only ones killed by the Nazi’s.

Norway was in war for years. I am not gonna stoop to your level and attack USA or Israel wichis countries I like alot.

But to compare young Norwegian voters to HAMAS is a very sick sick thing to do. Many parties have camps in Norway not only that party, to engage youth to participate in the democracy that Norway is.

You have chosen to post a picture taken at an angle you thought benefitted your opinion, you are after all a grown woman. The picture shows some young peoples expressing their opinion, right or wrong, they are intitled to, like you are, right or wrong.But how you twist facts is an irresponsible thing of you to do especially claiming to embrace your families history

That you can say all of this and think you are hounoring your father and grandfather or anyone one else for that matter is beyond me. You seem as indoktrinated as HAMAS, you spread the same type of hate and in your brilliance you do not seem to have any understanding of how peace is created.

you have no compassion for young people who died under the hand of a terrorist, and on top of that you smear their reputation. Says things about you that I think would make any normal person twitch in shame.

Lill Andersen on August 4, 2011 at 12:25 pm

What do you know? What do you bother to find out before you print such atrocious lies? The youngsters in the rubber boat on your picture, for example, belong to another youth organisation – the Socialist Youth, and not to Labor Youth whose members were hunted down and killed in cold blood, one by one. The Labor Youth do not support Hamas, but they support free elections on the West Bank and Gaza, even if the outcome is not in line with their sympaties. Just like they accepted the election of George W. Bush even though they supportet Al Gore. Do you support or defend the right of one man to hunt down 80 young people on their island just because they do not share his – and your views? Is this how you honor American – and Norwegian – freedom of speech? I’m sorry, but you are a disgrace.

Ragnar Nordgreen (Norway) on August 4, 2011 at 12:56 pm

You Fucking People Make Me Sick

marlene olsson on August 4, 2011 at 12:58 pm

A fellow politician drew my attention to your blog. Frankly I considered it to be some kind of sick joke until I realised that your really are sincere…..

I´m chocked, stunned and upset after reading your blog from 28 july.
First of all – you, a grown up, educated person considers the brutal killing of almost 100 youngters to be ok if you think they have an opinion that is contrary to yours?
Are you for real? I find it hard to believe that somebody in your position can be THAT ignorant!
The youngsters in the camp on Utöja were members of the youth section of the leading political party of Norway, a party chosen in public election. A party that honours all peoples right to equality, all peoples right to democracy, freedom and the right to speak freely – and YOU are accusing that party for being fiendish towards jewish people and compare them with terrorists???
SHAME SHAME SHAME on you! Go home and do your homework properly – come back and speak your opinion after getting the facts righ

LJA: The Nazis were elected, too (and they had a youth section). They hated Jews as much as your friends in the AUF. Say hi to the ghost of Quisling for me. DS

Lotta Johansson Arnqvist on August 4, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    “LJA: The Nazis were elected, too (and they had a youth section). They hated Jews as much as your friends in the AUF. Say hi to the ghost of Quisling for me. DS”

    I saw you left this reply. And to JS I wanna say this.

    I realized you are not willing to listen to that AUF is not anything similar to any naziparty.Instead of reading thenew info you get to get a factual picture, you stick to the one you have to hide that you were wrong. They do not hate jews, muslims or any religious group.

    Quisling is in Norway viewed upon as a traitor, every political party does not view, in respect of history. USA contributed economically to the rebuilding of Norway after WW2. You dont seem to mention the bond that is there? Yet to bother to read about Norway’s approach to peace and politics, you blindly follow the words of a man killing 77 people that in no way was compareable to any Nazi group. In fact..

    Norway was one of the 37 countries that voted for that Israel would be taken up at the UN, and thus Norway recognized Israel as a sovereign state. From that time, Norway has been positioned as a pro-Israel in international politics, and a number of political parties stood positive toward Israel, especially Arbeiderpartiet , which had government power at the time.

    Now. How dumb are you? How ignorant? Shame on you

    Lill Andersen on August 4, 2011 at 2:59 pm

The Norwegian Labor Party’s Youth Organization is definitely on the left, but it has never celebrated Hamas. Calling for boycott of Israel (although terribly misguided) is not the same as celebrating Hamas.

Moreover, the youths waving Palestinian flags are not from the Labor Party’s Youth Organization. They’re from the “Socialist Youths,” a smaller and far more radical youth organization (How do I know this? The flag in the foreground displays their logo.)

Ole Martin Moen on August 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Ignorant cunts. Burn in hell.

alex bromann on August 4, 2011 at 1:33 pm

Debbie Schlussel: You are a disgrace to humanity. I have faith that you will meet a fate much more horrible than those innocent children did, you piece of putrid trash…..

sweetpea on August 4, 2011 at 1:39 pm

Debbie: You bring nothing but shame on yourself. You are mouthing the same hatred that inspired the killer. I disagree with these kids on a lot of things, but they never supported terrorism or violence. And they were kids. The youngest girl murdered was barely 14. However much we disagree with them or find them misguided, children are to be protected and cared for in any civilised society. But you have crossed even that line.
This post is despicable as well as ignorant, and you risk inspiring new terrorists through the hatred you spew. You are every bit as bad as mullahs preaching hatred of America and the west.
I am a great admirer of America, and try to travel there as often as I can. But I despise people like Debbie. Shame on you all. You do not represent America, you do not represent democracy or freedom. You only represent hatred and violence.

A norwegian on August 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm

To Debbie!
Reading your statement just makes me genuinely sad. Sad because your hatred towards Palestinians make you believe that any of those fighting for just peace between conflicting groups, are enemies of yours. Sad because you still seem to think that any work and attitudes supporting nuances and solutions provided all parties involved, is an attack on you and your origin.
That has never been, and is not the case. In Norway we have groups supporting both the Israelis and the Palestines.You can support Israel`s right to exist at the same time as you support Palestinian rights in the country in which they were born and fostered. Polarizing this as you do, and being so extreme in your propaganda for one of the sides against the other,escalating an already infected and severe conflict is revolting.
Blaming young Norwegian kids at a summercamp for antisemittism and basically making them responsible for their own fate is even worse. I truly hope you will come to better terms with the way you view this world, and not the least how you view your opponents. If respect, recognition and solutions are virtues for you, you have to change your ways.If you want to create more conflicts, frustration, hatred between people you are progressing in that with rapid speed!
I just hope that you also consider that you by stating this create more opposition to people like you, and that you understand that you are currently one of the contributors to keeping this wound open and very much alive!Your hatred and your actions lead to more tension, and will most likely make you even more selfrighteous. I don`t want to be there to comfort you the day you understand that you contributed a great deal to this!

Hedda Langemyr on August 4, 2011 at 2:07 pm

This blog does not even deserve a comment, but I really can’t resist.

The fact that the banner can be seen behind the Minister does not mean he supports such an approach. Many in Norway, including in Labour, indeed do, but most seem to be of the opinion that diplomatic pressure is a more fruitful approach to having Israel ending its oppression of the Palestinians in disrespect for international institutions and conventions. But please do see the first picture as a display of the freedom of speech that is enjoyed in Norway.

As for the second picture, you describe it as depicting ‘terrorists who want to kill Israeli soldiers’. It is in fact a way bto express support for the population in Gaza which lives under a blockade depriving them of chances for a life with dignity and economic development. A collective punishment by Israel against protests from the Gazans to the oppression.

Yes, individuals on the Strip shoot rockets at Israeli towns and villages and that should be condemned. Israel responds with strikes that normally kill a hundred times as many people, and that should be hundredfold condemned.

Such condemnation does not entail a recognition of Hamas or their protest approach. (Much can be said about Hamas and their lack of recognition of Israel – I understand them as not recognising Israel in its current form where it occupies land beyond the 1967 borders – but I won’t discuss that matter further, because that is not the issue here.)

As long as Israel does not respect internationally recognised borders, halt its opression and denial of proper democratic rights to the Palestinian population, or engage in credible efforts to reach a peaceful solution, the country will not acquire, and does not deserve, any friends.

Even the Norwegian Labour party, which traditionally has been among Israel’s strongest supporters, has by now been turned off by its behaviour.

Maybe Israel’s supporters instead should try a little bit of self-reflection; could it possibly be a reason why Israel does not seem to have any real friends anymore?

This has nothing to do with hatred of Jews or antisemittism, as he author suggests. It has to do with human rights. When we se violation of human rights, then it is our obligation to speak out against it, and this is the case whether the perpetrators are Jews, Muslims, Serbs, or whatever. In this case, the campers duly do so against the behaviour of the Israeli government.

It is utterly tasteless to attempt to score political points on this disaster. Fortunately, Norwegian media and politicians have completely abstained from doing so. I would wish the owner of this blog also have some respect for the victims, before presenting them as neo-Nazis.

Lars on August 4, 2011 at 2:58 pm

Norway was one of the 37 countries that voted for that Israel would be taken up at the UN, and thus Norway recognized Israel as a sovereign state. From that time, Norway has been positioned as a pro-Israel in international politics, [1] and a number of political parties stood positive toward Israel, especially Labor, which had government power at the time

labor= AP= AUF

Lill Andersen on August 4, 2011 at 3:09 pm

That’s a very offensive comparison.
I am a Norwegian Jew and I can tell you that I am treated by respect, by the government and even by my Muslim friends.

Norwegians know the difference between Jews and Israelis, and that they do not hate Israelis, but rather that some Norwegians disagree with actions taken by Israel.

Daniel B on August 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm

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