September 13, 2011, - 4:42 pm

Bachmann is Right About Der Perry’s Gardasil; SCHLUSSEL Flashback ’09: Gardasil Kills

By Debbie Schlussel

Michele Bachmann is being ridiculed by some for her comments during and after last night’s Republican Presidential debate, regarding Gardasil, the vaccine against cervical cancer from the HPV virus.  I’m normally a supporter of vaccines (but NOT statist vaccination policies like Der Perry instituted), but some can have very serious consequences for a few people who take them because, remember, a vaccine, includes parts of the virus it’s meant to treat. And I wrote about it on this site a few years ago, as Michigan long ago required Gardasil a la Der Perry (after greedy Republicans and Democrats took a lot of campaign money from its manufacturer, Merck). It’s incredible to me that people were bothered by Bachmann’s migraine headaches, but aren’t bothered by Der Perry’s imposition of a crippling and murderous vaccine upon girls as young as nine years old.

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I don’t know about her claim regarding retardation.  But, just as bad and far worse, I’ve written regarding the many media reports of girls who’ve been severely paralyzed and even died as a result of the Gardasil vaccine.  I even talked to a Michigan father whose daughter was a healthy athletic girl before taking the vaccine and was deathly ill as a result.  If I had girls, I would NOT allow them to be vaccinated.  Aside from that, it’s considered the “hey, girls, go have sex” vaccination because it prevents cervical cancer from HPV contracted through sex.

Perry is a swaggering idiot who’s no conservative.  People who fall for him are fools. And this is just one of the reasons.  Statist vaccines.  Supported by CAIR.  Friendships with Islamic terrorism supporters Farouk Shami and Muslim Agha Khan and instituted pro-Muslim curriculum.  Supported nationalized healthcare and Al Gore.  Supports open borders and illegal alien in-state college tuition via the DREAM Act.  I was calling this guy George Bush 3.0.  But he’s even worse.  Bush was bad enough.  Now, you want this statist who requires your daughters to risk their lives for his drug company campaign largesse.

Uh, no thanks.

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28 Responses

For the record, what was Mitt Romney’s stance on Gardasil? (Or for that matter, the other GOP candidates besides “Der” Perry?)

ConcernedPatriot on September 13, 2011 at 4:54 pm

Debbie, this is article is pretty interesting, of course I wasn’t here when you originally wrote the article about the “Gardasil” back in 2009.

Now to Rick Perry, if it’s down to Obama-Perry, more likely I’ll either stay home or vote for a “third-party” in next years election. And since Mr. Perry is friends with the “Aga Khan”, I’m still kind of sketchy about those folks. And DS you also claimed a few weeks ago that the Aga Khan is pro-hamas and pro-taliban that negotiates with them regulary.

In the near future Debbie, I hope you write a column about the Aga Khan so all of us can know who exactly are these people, and I’m really not falling for the “their considered infidels amongst militant islamist”!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on September 13, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Are there any peer-reviewed studies proving (or refuting) any of these assertions? Word-of-mouth, hyperbole, and friend-of-a-friend anecdotes, however well intentioned, serve to only muddy the water.

BH: There are just too many of these stories particularly with Gardasil to make it just anecdotal, and there need to be more, longer term studies done of the drug (by people not being paid off by Merck). DS

Bodee House on September 13, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Bodee,

    The FDA actually keeps a record of reported side effects of the drug. I believe those records are public, but I am not sure.

    However, you are missing the point. Perry issued an EXECUTIVE ORDER that these girls get the vaccine. He did not go through the Texas Legislature, he did not get the parents’ consent to give a medical product, HE JUST ORDERED IT.

    What if he had ordered sterilization of some of these girls, instead? Please don’t say he can’t happen here, because it has, and some of the sterilizations were political, and had nothing to do with retardation, etc.

    Look, we conservatives take issue when teens get abortions without parental consent. How can we justify giving them a risky product (and all vaccines have risks) without parental consent?

    Jonathan E. Grant on September 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm

      I don’t believe in forcing immunizations on anyone. But, given the rape possibilities, my daughter is getting vaccinated at 12. She’s 8 now. In 4 years, I expect that the vaccine will either be shown to be comploetely safe or withdrawn.

      I am reminded of the brouhaha on using antidepressants in adolescents. Lots of anecdotal stories on that one, too—but after the black box warnings went on and antidepressant use went down, adolescent suicide went UP, not down. When the Black Box warnings were negated by scientific evidence verifying safety of antidepressants in adolescents (save, possibly , paxil), antidepressant use went up, adolescent suicides went down.

      70 percent of cervical cancers are caused by these viruses. The data so far is in favor of vaccination.

      Rape is also a route of transmission. The scum are letting more 3rd worlders with criminal records in. Sorry, Deb, but given the worsening Dearbornistanization of America by the time by daughter will be an adult, she’s getting vaccinated at age 12.

      Occam's Tool on September 14, 2011 at 2:11 am

Unfortunately, Rick Perry is in the lead. This could be a repeat of the mainstream media’s McCain strategy. As with McCain, Mr. Perry will get a relatively free ride until after the primary season. More viable candidates will be gone, and then the media will leap in with a bunch of reports that they conveniently failed to deliver when it would have made a difference for Republican primary voters. Mr. Perry is not what he portrays himself to be. With his stances on Gay Marriage being ambiguous and his vacillations over Social Security, what is there to hold on to other than Mr. Perry’s raw ambition? In short, Mr. Perry is a fake.

Worry01 on September 13, 2011 at 5:24 pm

Run, Michelle, run!!!

Rollins is no longer her campaign manager.

Side effects? Usually, the full impact of side effects is not known for years, as some are long-term. The Center for Disease Control is politicized, and so is the good Dr. Offit.He wrote some good books re vaccines, but all the more problem with his current comments.

In addition to Perry’s atrocious positions, he is, like you said, kind of stupid. He is not quick on the uptake, and even if he had good positions, he’d have to be quick to answer hostile comments. Michelle has that quickness. She defended herself against Wallace, Perry, and will have Obama tied in knots if she ever gets the chance to debate him.

I can’t get over the way Rush and other sycophants are attacking her. First it was on immigration — Rush said that immigration isn’t really an issue and we have to concentrate on economics. Really? Just because the Republican elite thinks so?

And now he and other Republican hacks are criticizing the one candidate who might actually be able to change things.

Little Al on September 13, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Rush has so much as admitted a few years ago that he was basically a Republican establishment cheerleader (read: party hack), and thus not necessarily all that conservative. And at every opportunity, Michael Savage has reminded his listeners about this. One wonders how many of those attacking Ms. Bachmann for her calling out “Der” Perry on his statist vaccination program involving Gardasil are themselves on the take from Merck. (And this includes one columnist for a website to which Debbie also contributed, until an infamous pan-Islamist who was connected with the previous owners of that site had her and her columns removed. I read a recent blog from that other columnist in question on that site, and he basically took Rush’s side in denouncing Ms. Bachmann and claiming Gardasil was “harmless.” Yeah, right.)

    ConcernedPatriot on September 14, 2011 at 2:37 am

Mr. Perry also likes giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens in Texas. He has a lot on common with Governor Jerry Brown in California apparently.

Worry01 on September 13, 2011 at 6:17 pm

I wrote about the vaccine some time ago.

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2009/03/yet-another-reason-not-to-vaccinate.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2008/07/gardasil-side-effects.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2008/01/2-in-uk-dead-linked-to-hpv-vaccine.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2007/02/whats-hurry.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-on-hpv-vaccine.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2007/02/texas-orders-all-girls-to-be-given.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2006/12/whats-next-child-neglect-for-parents.html

http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2006/12/hpv-vaccinations.html

I don’t believe that the general public understands that one reason the cervical cancer stats have APPARENTLY been rising is that, instead of categorizing only true cancers as part of those stats (the situation before the Pap test), now they call ALL the abnormal results “cancer”, even those that the doctors themselves consider pre-cancerous, or only potentially, eventually cancerous. A lot of women have been led to surgery to eliminate those abnormal results, with the outcome that they are dropped into the cancer stats hopper.

LindaF on September 13, 2011 at 6:29 pm

I enjoyed the “Der” Perry tag! :D

So glad there is a thread on this because I think we are being snookered right before our eyes (and this year I know enough now to see where the establishment has come in to try to strong-arm Perry or Romney to be the Republican nominee).

We know Der Perry is no conservative. His track record speaks for itself and no TRUE Conservative could ever vote for him (the open borders and Gardasil were enough for me) so I am getting really annoyed lately when I hear talk radio callers calling in and showing that they are just the same as Liberals when they shill for this creep. It shows they don’t do their homework and prolly listen to that a-hole Vannity.

But back to my point on the “establishment”. So funny to see all of the sudden the talking points of so-called Conservatives lately is that Romney/Perry are the front runners. Really? Before the skipping record mantra of them being the front-runner most Conservatives said “anyone but Mitt”. Yeah, this is the first year I was privy to shuck and jive act right in front of me. Nice try, it isn’t gonna work this year.

And everyone has Bachmann DOA. One minute she won the Iowa straw-poll and the next she’s yesterday’s news? And I am suppose to believe that just because Der Perry joined the race? NO. Way. Jose.

I am glad that idiot Rollins left (why, I’d still like to know because he lied about why he quit…and if he’s too old for the game, why did he take someone else with him when he left?) and I just hope that Bachmann is NOT a stalking horse for Flip Floppney.

Oh, and for what it is worth, Palin is gonna get in the race soon. I am not on top of her strategy of why she is waiting so long with a long tease, but I do agree with those annoyed with her not getting in already. Why the long tease? And I have no idea what her chances are. I guess we will see. (I am not a Palinista or Palin hater…I do know what the Palinistas are all about though and I find them annoying).

Skunky on September 13, 2011 at 8:36 pm

Debbie I would like an executive order banning lawyers from commenting on vaccine safety, with a waiver for pretty blonde Jewish lawyers. Gardasil has been studied up the wazoo and these reports of death, etc. after vaccination are related only by timing. No vaccine is risk free, but the hysterical ignorance over vaccine safety has only hurt people, in particular the children who don’t get vaccinated and the classmates they infect.

A1 on September 13, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    If “the kids” are infecting their classmates, they may be in violation of school rules – the ONLY way to pass genital warts is to have sex – which they shouldn’t be doing in school.

    Approximately 30% of the HPV infections that can lead to cancers will NOT be affected by this vaccine. But girls, and their parents, are under the impression that this vaccine makes them totally protected. Furthermore, they need to have booster shots – and the first booster will be due about the time they leave for college. What do you think the chances are that they will forget to get the update? Just in time for many of them to start becoming sexually active.

    LindaF on September 13, 2011 at 9:34 pm

Just received some additional information about Perry. He said during the debate that he only received $5000 from Merck when in fact he received $23,000 from Merck while the Governors’ Association received $600,000 from Merck (Perry being the largest recipient among all of the governors). This, along with his pro-amnesty stance (why give illegals instate tuition when it is illegal for them to work here and employers to hire them? And why should they receive instate tuition when someone from a different state has to pay out-of-state tuition?) I can go on and on about this a$$! He is and has never been but a RINO at best.

Pats on September 13, 2011 at 9:35 pm

$5000 is a lot. You do that 20 times, you’ve got a $100,000. Ten more times, you’ve got a million. I do believe he can be bought for $5000, too. So can all of them, including Michele Bachmmann. They’re all bought and paid for, give me a break.

David Lanham on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 am

Shit, it doesn’t matter. Just keep buying gold and silver eagles, rice, shampoo, razors, motor oil, 35mpg car…screw it. They’re not going to stop till they destroy everything. The dollar will collapse, the shelves will be empty..the southwest will become autonomous, anyway. They aren’t Americans LOL. Houston is now Mexico. So is Chicago, for that matter. What a joke. BTW…I saw Letterman for 10 seconds tonight, he was doing the Top Ten. Just before he started, he referred to mexicans as the REAL AMERICAN WORKERS. ha. ha. ha. The audience cheered. Screw em all. Buy gold. F them.

David Lanham on September 14, 2011 at 1:02 am

About Gardasil, were the women involved on the side of women or on the side of profits.

‘The pre-FDA approval hype, masquerading as education, was executed by Merck and its partners, the Edelman PR firm and non-profit organizations including the Cancer Research and Prevention Foundation and Step up Women’s Network, to create a sense of fear and urgency in women and parents of girls. Merck continued using its successful non-profit partnership model to push for mandates of the HPV vaccine at the state level. Women in Government, an industry-funded network of women state legislators proved a willing and able channel to influence policymakers across the country. All of this has happened against the backdrop of Merck’s need to recoup financially and image-wise from the Vioxx debacle that is still making its way through the courts, as well as its fleeting corner on the HPV vaccine market.’

FEAR (false expectation appearing real) the mission of big PHARMA to control through government mouthpieces pocketing the profits. Bird ‘flu, Swine ‘flu, Cervical Warts and goodness knows what’s coming next…hold on a plan is being hatched. The list of Gardasil victims is long and both Dr Mercola(who has a newsletter every week) and Natural News have had endless articles on the negatives of Gardasil. At the moment the USA govt. departments are trying to STOP health supplements. Yes, freedom of choice is fast evaporating.

Little New Zealand with an overall population of 4.5 million across the board was forced into an initial purchase of $10 MILLION dollars. The take up was pathetically poor, girls refused it. They then tried to give it gratis to the Samoan girls who also refused it. No doubt this ‘marvellous drug’ has gone full past it’s sell by date and will have to dumped into the ground somewhere, polluting the environment.

Lawyers Filing Suit – Gardasil Has Suspected Link To Paralysis, Brain Damage & Death
http://digitaljournal.com/article/257045

Gov. Perry obviously roared ahead without considering the true implications of Gardasil but taking a cheap skate return of $500…gawd, doesn’t think much of himself and will sell his soul. ‘He who lies to you will also steal from you’….

Surely abstinence is less costly and morally in line with fine living as teenagers prepare for adulthood. Chose ‘Farmer’ above ‘Pharma’ and you’ll lead a better and longer life.

Good work Debbie S.

Eyes Wide Open on September 14, 2011 at 1:24 am

I worked for Perry for two afternoons on the Gore campaign, he told me I was the kind of people they needed. If he becomes President, I’m going to be so pissed, if a future President told me that and I coulda stayed. I was only making precinct calls, though. Those jokers are evil. They’ll force your daughter to take a vaccine. Their power knows no bounds, shows you what they think of you.

David Lanham on September 14, 2011 at 3:21 am

Run, Michelle, run!!!

Rollins is no longer her campaign manager.

Little Al on September 13, 2011 at 5:50 pm

Little Al

Did Rollins get removed, or did he leave on his own?

I stopped paying attention to Rush long ago, and discontinued my subscription to his newsletter years ago. When his publication called me to ask about renewal, I told them that I wasn’t interested, since Rush never had much to say about the Muslim threat while Bush was in office, and even supported pretty aggressively the Dubai Ports deal.

One thing about Perry, though – having been TX governor for 6 years, he’s probably going to be Obama’s strongest challenger. Unfortunately, for those wanting an anti-Islamic leader, he’s not going to be one any more than Obama is.

Only thing – I wonder if the Dems can attack Perry on this Gardasil issue the way Bachmann is. But I’d like Bachmann to at least get to the #2 spot – ahead of Romney, Palin, et al.

Infidel Pride on September 14, 2011 at 6:59 am

Found this from 2010 relating to San Antonio schools.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/article/Showdown-over-Islam-looming-for-SBOE-660733.php

Gracie on September 14, 2011 at 11:22 am

The MSM is trying to do a Palin job on Michelle. So, she needs to keep herself present and out front and center and be visible…or else, the MSM will deminize AND THEN IGNORE her.She is the only candidate whose vision for America I believe. …I don’t care if she’s exaggerating this or that…they are small points…much smaller than O’s 57 states and numerous other ‘mis-speaks’. Her overall vision and nonwavering sense of right and wrong are what count.

Not Ovenready on September 14, 2011 at 11:30 am

I agree with you, Debbie, regarding Gardasil. I have two teenage daughters, and neither will be getting the vaccine, at least until Merck straightens out the problems with it. As far as I’m concerned, too many young women have had major adverse reactions to the vaccine to consider it safe. Moreover, the fact that Perry wanted to make such a vaccine mandatory in most cases prevents me from supporting him for the Republican nomination.

KBuff on September 14, 2011 at 2:08 pm

The Big Pharma Drug Cartels are Not concerned with helping to put an end to the suffering of humanity.

The bottom line for the Big Pharma Drug Cartels is Making Money and Lots Of It.

Their drug pushers, the doctors, presidents, lawmakers, the media, etc. are just the flip side of the same coin where you find Drug Runners and the Mexican Drug Cartels on the other side of the coin.

The ATF gives assault rifles to the Mexican Drug Cartels and one of those rifles has been traced to the murder of an Arizona Border Patrol Agent. The Agent’s family is suing the U.S. government over this. And 20 more crimes have been traced to rifles the ATF gave to the Mexican Drug Cartels..

And then they have the U.S. marines guarding Muslim Poppie Fields in Afganistan protecting the Muslim opium and heroin business.

Does the actions of the U.S. government with Drugs in America and around the world trouble anyone?

Type into your Search Engine – Afghanistan, poppies, C.I.A. opium and heroin – and see what you get.

When the so-called good guys, are just as evil as the bad guys, your in deep dish without a pizza.

Azixoye on September 14, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Time for a press release!

The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation. There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement. Since the vaccine has been introduced, more than 35 million doses have been administered, and it has an excellent safety record.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the American Academy of Family Physicians all recommend that girls receive HPV vaccine around age 11 or 12. That’s because this is the age at which the vaccine produces the best immune response in the body, and because it’s important to protect girls well before the onset of sexual activity. In the U.S., about 6 million people, including teens, become infected with HPV each year, and 4,000 women die from cervical cancer. This is a life-saving vaccine that can protect girls from cervical cancer.

Nak on September 14, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Well, lets hear how many girls/daughters of politicians have had the Gardasil. Does anyone kinow whether the Obama daughter has had the Gardasil injection…..she’s about the age for it.

    Eyes Wide Open on September 15, 2011 at 4:31 am

Bachman was right and obviously Perry needs to get some Libertarian principles more firmly under his belt when it comes to freedom of choice in “health care”. I believe Perry however when he said he wanted to irradicate cancer and acknowledges he made a mistake. He needs to be far more sceptical and put freedom of choice before what he thinks is right, no matter what.

Lucy on September 14, 2011 at 5:23 pm

All vaccines carry a degree of risk, which should be made clear to the recipient. Does anyone actually have any stats on Gardasil? If it’s too dangerous of course it should be withdawan, and it shouldn’t be “pushed” onto anyone, but without any actual figures it’s premature to make a judgement.

StevieB on September 15, 2011 at 6:48 am

One last reference to the contributions Perry took:

http://washingtonindependent.com/111559/perry-understates-mercks-campaign-donations-around-hpv-vaccine-order

Pats on September 13, 2011 at 9:44 pm

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