The Morons of the “Arab Spring”

September 16, 2011, - 2:32 pm

The Morons of the “Arab Spring”

By Debbie Schlussel

Anyone who has read a newspaper or paid attention to world events–even only occasionally–in the last ten years knows that the Muslim world is a savage place that will never be civilized and whose only version of “democracy” is to elect fellow savages.  Anyone who needed the Muslim invasion of the Israeli Embassy in Cairo, last week as a wake up call should go back to sleep.  You simply haven’t been paying attention . . . attention to “Gaza Democracy” a/k/a HAMASastan . . . attention to “Iraqi Democracy” a/k/a Iran-backed, koran-based Shia-ocracy . . . Libyocracy a/k/a mass torture and revenge and then koran-ocracy.  Oh, and then there’s the gang-rape of Lara Logan by the “liberators” she cheered until they “liberated” her  . . . and the virginity tests of their fellow Egyptian “democrats.”  This is Islam.  This has always been Islam.  It will not change.  They need brutal dictators to keep some appearance of stability among the animals.

And, like I said, you don’t need to be Einstein to know this.  You just need to be paying attention.  But the most brainiac of self-proclaimed brainiacs on world affairs know better than us and our common sense.  And that goes for uber-morons like Josef Joffe, a “fellow” of the Hoover Institution, a so-called conservative think tank.  Joffe’s colleagues at Hoover include Fouad Ajami, the Arab Spring’s biggest cheerleader and a Shi’ite Muslim fantasist parading as a moderate, and Daniel Pipes, a giant phony who won’t condemn Islam and believes it can be moderate and peaceful and, instead, hides behind the non-existent “Islamism” to make his several hundred thousand dollars a year in salary without recognizing the Islamic threat while using the euphemism of cowards for it, instead.

In today’s Wall Street Journal, Joffe has an op-ed piece, entitled “Optimists Were Wrong About the Arab Spring.”  Uh, really?  No s–t, Sherlock.  The problem is, this guy admits that he thought, until last week’s Muslim riots at the Cairo Israeli Embassy, that Muslims were peaceful and could have a Western-style democracy.  Whatta moron!  Did he not notice the anti-Semitic, swastika-laden, anti-Israel signs in Cairo during all the protests of February and March?  Or the Lara Logan rape?  Or the virginity tests?  Or how “democracy” turned out in Gaza and the so-called West Bank?  This guy is an idiot.  And, hey, he’s also the editor of Die Zeit and a senior fellow of the Freeman-Spogli Institute.  Check out part of what amounts to his admission, “I am a moron,” in today’s Journal (and note that for the rest of his column, he blames Hosni Mubarak for this–the man who isn’t in power and whose unseating is the reason this is all going on, that and that fact that these are Muslims we’re dealing with):

I wasn’t alone, but the mea culpa is all mine. Like many, I thought that dawn was finally breaking over the Arab world when those nice, middle-class crowds thronged Cairo’s Tahrir Square chanting “freedom” and “democracy” without burning American and Israeli flags. What a miracle, I mused: The dogs of hate are not barking. And what a wondrous moment of transcendence! Free the people, and they will free themselves from the obsession of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism their overlords had implanted to distract them from misery and oppression.

It was a false dawn—and not only because of the sacking of the Israeli embassy in Cairo last week. On my desk sits a Reuters photo dated May 13; the caption reads: “People burn an Israeli flag during a demonstration on Tahrir Square.” There were no such symbols of “Arab rage” when the protests erupted in late January.

Uh, yes, there were, you dumbass. There were plenty of prominently displayed anti-Israel and anti-Semitic signs in Tahrir Square. Dude, you need to get a new prescription for your eyeglasses. Or a brain transplant.

The demons of yore are back and presumably they have never left. The Friday demonstration on Tahrir Square was at first standard fare—yet another protest against the military regime. But at the end, several thousands armed with Palestinian flags, crowbars and hammers marched off to the Israeli embassy for a bit of deconstructionist work.

Hey, Josef, glad you finally woke up.  But it’s too little, too late.  The rancid halal milk is spilt.  Your crying now won’t fix it.  But, thanks.

The morons of the Arab Spring, Joffe and his colleague Ajami and others, cost the world a lot, including and especially a more stable Middle East. Thanks a gazillions, guys. And, no worries, the Hoover paycheck is still coming in, despite your cheerleading and enabling of the enemy.

Alhamdillullah [praise allah].

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DS you said in the first paragraph:

“attention to “Iraqi Democracy” aka Iran-backed, koran-base Shia-ocracy.”

Debbie, you remember back during the Bush days during the “Iraq War”, most of the conservatives were claiming, “yadda yadda Bush is going to bring democracy in Iraq yadda yadda”, and here’s my favorite line from Hannity, “yadda yadda the Iraq war will bring the winds of freedom yadda yadda (I laugh my buttocks off whenever I hear the Wallbanger mentioned that line)”. So far the war in Iraq hasn’t bought NO freedom and NO democracy from what I see, the war in Iraq created a “Super-Iran” or “Super-Persia”! I read Michael Savage’s book, “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder” Debbie and he explains how the Iraq war could be Bush’s biggest mistake ever, and it turns out Dr. Savage was right on the money DS!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on September 16, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Spot on Sean! I remember reading Savage’s LIAMD and that is the part that scared me the most and the part I remember the most.

    And at the time I was hoping Savage was wrong (not because he didn’t know better) because I thought democracy could be obtained and I was so scared if it couldn’t be. Now I stand corrected. If I had done my homework, I would have been able to see the forrest through the trees.

    I don’t like or respect Jay Severin, but he has always said that democracy could not ever come to the Moooooslim world. Even though I can’t stand the dude, he was correct…and correct early. He also said that the sons of Mrs. Sullivan and Mrs. Jones should not have to put down their lives for the Mohammads of the world.

    The Conservative Quacks should be called out on their support of AS…like Stephen Hayes, Dana Perino, and Bill Krystol. Who else?

    Skunky on September 16, 2011 at 9:19 pm

      The correct thing for Bush to do would have been to bash heads, look for WMDs, and then moved on. Screw the Iraqis. They’re not worth my used toilet paper, and neither are any of the other assholes in the Middle east. The only two decent groups of people out there are the Israelis (of course) and, apparently, the Kurds.

      Occam's Tool on September 17, 2011 at 9:49 pm

For the life of me , I will never understand how anyone could ever find anything good from muslim world – the umma. They have been curse on the rest of humanity since was created, because the goal of the umma is destroy or convert all of humanity until only muslims exist. By all decent moral standards they are degenerate savages.

rnh on September 16, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Drawing an analogy to the Prague Spring of 1968 was a fool’s errand from the get-go. While the very short good days of liberalization in Czechoslovakia *did* take place in the Spring, the seeds were planted months earlier when Dubcek came to power.

Of course, the Ruskies invaded in August, and put a quick stop to all the fun.

In the case of the Arab states, the revolts started in Tunisia in December of 2010, and continued on to Egypt and Libya. However, there was never an issue of more freedom.

Rather, a particular dictator was overthrown, and since there has never been democracy in Arab countries, he would be replaced with another tyrant.

For the media to seize upon this analogy simply demonstrates how stupid they all are: Those who can do; those who can’t, teach; those who can’t teach become journalists.

A bit of a generalization, for sure, but still mostly accurate.

Red Ryder on September 16, 2011 at 3:12 pm

I used to believe that something like a democratic republic was possible in Muslim lands. But that was 6 or more years ago. Grown-ups who are not cognitively impaired change their views when new evidence undermines these views.

skzion on September 16, 2011 at 3:13 pm

The barbarism is coming soon (if it’s not already present) to a Western Democracy near you. Hey, Arab Spring cheerleaders: it’s the Islam, stupid!

adam on September 16, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    The barbarism is coming soon (if it’s not already present) to a Western Democracy near you. Hey, Arab Spring cheerleaders: it’s the Islam, stupid!

    adam on September 16, 2011 at 3:23 pm


    I wonder how long it will take the barbarism to come to Ireland, for example, where the IRA is cozy as kittens with the Arabs and the Moslem population is so high. I wonder how long before all those good, (nominally) Catholic Irish girls, who backed the Irish contingent in the Gaza flotilla and took part in demonstrations against “apartheid” Israel (when people call Israel an “apartheid” country, it’s projection; they want to ban and ostracize Jews) are praying their brainwashed, groupthink prone little hearts out to Saint Maria Gerotti, Patron Saint of Rape Victims, to save them from the people whose cause they championed and whose propaganda they parrotted.

    Miranda Rose Smith on September 18, 2011 at 5:36 am

      CORRECTION: Saint Maria GORETTI.

      Miranda Rose Smith on September 18, 2011 at 7:25 am

Skzion, I agree with you (above) about cognitive impairment and with Debbie – that there’s just no excuse for all the excusing of muslim behavior. So, leftists must all be cognitively impaired. I’m not being snarky here. I think that somehow their cult-like devotions as well as they way they externalize blame and hate those who disagree have impaired their ability to reason. Maybe neurologically, they are using the more primitive emotion-based functions of the brain (amygdala?) and this blocks higher cognitive functions like, um, recognizing facts and using simple logic!

Cat K on September 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Interesting speculation, Cat K.

    skzion on September 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Dear Cat K—

    you may not be far off. There’s a lot of marrying first cousins and subsequent birth defects in the Islamic world, which right now is beginning to hammer on the British NHS, s the rate of birth defects is higher than planned for by them.

    Occam's Tool on September 17, 2011 at 9:51 pm

      Sorry, Cat, “as the rate of.”

      Occam's Tool on September 17, 2011 at 9:52 pm

Adam in you’re sentiment:

“Hey, Arab Spring cheerleaders: it’s the Islam, Stupid!”

Got that right Adam, but don’t tell all of that to Anderson Cooper, he got so excited about the so-called liberators in Egypt earlier this year. And we remember what happened to him and Lara Logan (please, let’s NOT get started on the Lara Logan brewhaha all over again, Debbie doesn’t want to raise her blood pressure all over again and I don’t want to increase my blood pressure about the Logan story again)!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on September 16, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Or they are just a bunch of liars now getting caught with their pants on fire….

Cat K on September 16, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Muslims protesting for their view of freedom and justice always, more than anything else, manifest their barbaric impulse. Hard to cozy up to, you’d think.

lee on September 16, 2011 at 4:00 pm

The Democracy Show isn’t over so get ready for some more farcical arabic theater. It begins with the announcement of a “free” election for a new parliamentary democracy. The second act is the actual election with happy people dropping their paper ballots into cardboard boxes and the obligatory show they make of counting some of them. Then the winners will be announced no matter what the count is and despite requisite voter fraud. And the final act is the emergence of the Muslim Brotherhood or the Taliban or equally repressive group that never allows elections again. The entire play is entitled, “One Man, One Vote, One Time.”

fred on September 16, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Maybe Lara Logan can do a follow up story about Cairo.

CaliforniaScreaming on September 16, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Maybe Lara Logan can do a follow up story about Cairo.

    CaliforniaScreaming on September 16, 2011 at 4:49 pm



    Miranda Rose Smith on September 18, 2011 at 6:11 am

Get it in your head. Islam was, is and will be always famous for three things:

1- Terror.

2- Killing the infidels. (i.e…….. us).

3-Burning the American and the Israeli flags.

Oh, did I say famous. How stupid of me.

Daniel. on September 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Arab Spring or should we call it the next season of
Curb your Enthusiasm.
The Free World is going to get very expensive when
the animals are rattling their cages, starting next
week at the UN.
Our Days of Atonement are coming and we’ll be circling
the wagons when the savages start the Great Assault.

Hymie Town on September 16, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Debbie, when are you going to track down some cell phone footage of Lara Logan’s 300 Haji liberation gangbang train so we can all get on board with the liberal agenda? Please tell me this will go viral.

tom on September 16, 2011 at 5:53 pm

Icomment on the TAS site and it was simply amazing the number of Paulbots who believed that the Arab Spring was going to lead to secular Democratic advances.

I don’t believe that is possible under Shit Head Asshats Relishing Idiotic Antagonisms Liberals Imbecilically Adore, however.

Occam's Tool on September 16, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    I’m sorry, the squirrel distracted me. I meant to say: Shit Head Asshats Relishing Idiotic Antagonisms Liberals Adore Weepily.

    Occam's Tool on September 16, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Didn’t the Neo-Con pipe (bomb) dream of turning Iraq into a democracy make everyone realize that the idea of “Arab democracy” is absurd? And in such cases that free elections are held, what the people do is almost immediately vote away their new freedom by putting jerks in power (sounds like the USA, but the difference is some of our jerks eventually leave office by democratic means).

Sprung Out on September 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm

Even to this day, whenever I try to discuss the true facts about what islam is really all about to people who seriously need to get up to speed on the threat we are facing, I can see them flinch and they do that little blink blink thing with their eyes the way people do who have completely bought into Political Correctness. Which is only synonymous for having allowed themselves to be made into the likenesses of retarded, spineless dough people.

How do you convince liberal idiots they have allowed themselves to become positively ripe for being beat down into human pita bread by these hungry muslim savages? I guess I could flatter them by telling them they have ‘risen to the occasion’ of their own demise.

Kairn on September 16, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Kairn, you hit a very important point right on the head. I know I have experienced exactly what you described.

    And to make it even more scary/annoying…I experienced it with many so-called Conservatives.

    We have a lot of work to do.

    Skunky on September 17, 2011 at 7:18 am

      For example, Skunky, Paulbots can drive you crazy on this.

      Occam's Tool on September 17, 2011 at 10:09 pm

There are no real secular parties or movements in the Arab World. The few that exist are weak and powerless. Islamist parties are the best organized because they resonate with people’s beliefs them heaven on earth. Islam is Communism minus the atheism. There is though nothing rational about it. Its fanatical and seeks the destruction of Israel and the West. The Europeans want to throw Israel to the Islamic crocodile, hoping they’ll be spared from its jaws.

When we look back at last year or even last February, the various revolutions in the Arab World did not bring about democracy and pluralism. Its hilarious the brightest people on the planet had no clue back then. And they still don’t. Their mea culpas show little they know about the Middle East – and Islam.

NormanF on September 16, 2011 at 6:38 pm

Part of what Joffe is doing is simple self-preservation. He wants to be able to sell articles in the future.

But the ‘conservative’ support for the Arab ‘Spring” is shameful, and they hsould have seen thse problems, as you said, from the beginning.

The neo-conservatives are among the fiercest proponents of ‘Democracy’> I think the reason for this is the background of some of them (or in a few cases, the background of their parents who influenced them, or the background of their mentors_. Neoconservatism had its origin on the left, and many of the older generation had experience with socialists and communists. I think their slavish adulation of Democracy comes from this background; an immense influence that they have yet to completely overcome. Of course in combination with opportunism and stupidity.

This is also true, unfortunately, of the generation now heading National Review.

Little Al on September 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm

The very moniker of “Arab Spring” made me literally queasy. Anything that “progressives” gush over, invent or support is automatically poisoned and hurts the backbone of America. They are relentless like cockroaches.

Also, wtf was Joffe saying about “dogs of hate…barking”? Uh, your malapropism is showing, Joffe.

Lastly, @ Occam’s Tool, “I’m sorry, the squirrel distracted me.” – too funny.

DS_ROCKS! on September 16, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    I recently was working at my hospital, and the window directly opposite me had a tree. On said tree was a squirrel, running around. As I was trying to concentrate on what I was doing, the squirrel was distracting me more and more (you know, “don’t think about pink elephants”), and I was realizing that I was slipping into a joke situation and couldn’t help it…

    Yeah, it can actually happen. thanks for the compliment, DS_Rocks. (Incidentally, so do you)

    Occam's Tool on September 17, 2011 at 9:57 pm

I was listening to my podcast of “Quinn and Rose” and he was listing all the crappy stuff most should have known about ZerObama in the run-up to 2008, but the media decided to WILLFULLY ignore and hide most of it.

Then he listed a slew of people who brought the truth forth, but not only were they ignored, but I also realized those people were put back on the figurative “bottom”.

He was alluding to some professor who knew Zero during his Marxist college days because he too, was a Marxist at the time. But when he tried to share his info, he was not only blocked out of the mainstream Liberal media, but he also said he was shocked by how even Fraud News (PAWNN) and peeps like Sean Vannity ignored him.

He also brought up Jack Cashill, someone who I feel has been ignored in double-time even when he has done some awesome research that exposed Zero and his ugly, ugly wife as frauds.

It made me think of DS (Now I am the crux of my post here) because her work and articles SHOULD be the FIRST stop, but we have seen what the Liberal media and the faux-Conservative media has done to try to make her a non-entity when she is the first stop.

This is disturbing to me because I don’t know about you, but when I read DS’ stuff, along with appreciating it, I always get this sinking feeling that I should have known this stuff LONG BEFORE I was finally able to see through the fog.

And the atrocity known as “Arab Spring” is the latest and scariest example of how so many so-called “best and brightest” work extra hard not to see the truth.

So in 2011, I hope y’all know to look more to those under the rock than those on the rock. And I still feel that sickening stab when I read stuff here because I should have been open to it many, many years ago.

Skunky on September 16, 2011 at 9:04 pm

What kind of education received those so called “experts” if they read the newspapers and watch at press pictures to know what is happening in the Middle-East? This is really bulls–t!

elf on September 16, 2011 at 9:10 pm

It is a terrible thing when supposed experts are so ignorant or even complicit in cases where Islam comes up. I cannot believe that this all involves simple ignorance or stupidity, since even a fool would begin to view a matter more skeptically with so much evidence available.

worry01 on September 16, 2011 at 11:59 pm

Maybe these fans of the “Arab Spring”© didn’t get around to reading this article…

Also, thanks DS for answering my Twitter question about whether Arabs would be any less dangerous had they abandoned Islam (@jacquattack on Twiiter).

@DebbieSchlussel Hypothetical question – if Arabs were to stop being Muslim, would the Israel/world be any safer? (sic – JD)

@jacquattack Not necessarily. Many Christian Arabs are just as anti-American and anti-Semitic. But it would be a huge improvement #tcot

Plus ça change…

The Reverend Jacques on September 17, 2011 at 8:42 am

I firmly believe that in the start this may have been an honest protest simply because of the tactics used. By the second or third day you could see that others had taken over the revolt. They were looting, shooting and letting out terrorist that were in prison a real change in direction. What some of the people who were involved were also saying they wanted a liberal western society (not a sharia one). I got this after the second day why in world would any else think that the muslim brotherhood (established 1920) would not try to take over. The current administration has allowed this to happen the next will not allow it to stand (the more conservative will take a greater amount of action example Huntsman would do nothing while Perry would send a Carrier group)

Jonathan Gartner on September 17, 2011 at 10:42 am

No Sean R.

Islam is not stupid. It is evil and savage. Muhammad told them in one of his dictums that God distinguished him over others by sexual power and terror. This is F—- Islam Sean.

G. R. SCHAROUBIM on September 17, 2011 at 12:14 pm

What democracy in the Arabian world? It is going to be all Shariacracy (or Shamocracy?)!

Rob on September 17, 2011 at 1:25 pm

You guys are pro-dictator when it comes to Islamic countries? Wow…

Democracy was the driving force that made America great… in a time when: women were required to cover up their entire bodies and their hair (Puritans, Quakers, Pilgrims, etc.), except for their faces; a man could beat his wife with a stick so long as it wasn’t thicker than his thumb; child labor, indentured servanthood and slavery were legal in this country; Native Americans were being exterminated from coast to coast; etc.

It certainly wasn’t our religion that made us great. It was very obviously our system of government, the separation of church and state. Why don’t you believe that progress can be made by introducing that very same system of government to the Islamic countries?

How do you consider Islam more brutal than Cortez and his Catholic invaders, the Americans marching from sea to shining sea via Manifest Destiny and exterminating every enemy or native in their path, the witch trials, the Wild Wild West, the gold rush, the pioneer days when a woman could be bushwhacked at any time and brothels rested at the edge of every other cow town, cults, factory stores, the Civil War, imperialism, lynchings, etc.?

You’ve got to start somewhere, man. Saying we should just give up on half the world’s population and let evil totalitarian regimes control the Middle-East for all time is asking for a future full of perpetual war, terrorism and civil unrest. Let the Muslims evolve. Let them grow up and modernize and leave their archaic religious practices in the past the way most Americans have. It’s the only path to peace.

mom on September 17, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    mommy, you are really tedious. Why don’t you sit quietly and read this site for a few weeks before you jump in with attempts at argument?

    BTW, Muslims are NOT half the world’s population. They are around 1.5B out of 7B total. If you cannot get even this approximately right, your “opinions” are worth only derision.



    skzion on September 17, 2011 at 2:56 pm


    Ok, let’s not ignore them. The solution to changing the Arab world is the same as was used to change Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan—beat them to a bloody pulp and rebuild them from the ruins, after they have given up their dreams of world conquest after losing millions of people.

    I’m game to do this. We have enough tac nukes—Hiroshima sized bombs. Are you?

    If not, then we have to reach some accommodation with them that
    “Contains” them and does not allow for further growth. Incidentally, your equivalence of the West and Islam is idiotic. The degree of freedom you have here is infinitely greater than what you would have overseas there. You obviously have never lived overseas, unlike me.

    Incuidentally, it WAS our Judeo-Christian religious beliefs that underpinned our entire moral structure that supports our government. For example, you really do need to read about Wilberforce—then find me the Muslim equivalent—there isn’t any.

    Occam's Tool on September 17, 2011 at 10:08 pm

The Arab world – and the whole world for that matter – needs to adopt and follow a Constitution like the one we have (but not through force) for maximium peace and prosperity (I know that we do not follow our own U.S. Constitution ourselves which is a tragedy but that’s another story). To celebrate “Constitution Day” which is today please click on the link below to view the video which provides everything you need to know about what our founders intended for us and teaches an appreciation for the timeless moral principles that make our Constitution great:

ramjordan on September 17, 2011 at 2:55 pm

Incidentally, mommie, Muslims do not “evolve”; they have been as they are now since their totalitarian ideology was made up by Mo, a transcendentally nasty piece of work.

The only hope is a world without Islam. So, I’m not willing to just let dictators have free rein in the dar al-Islam. There must be widescale conversion from Islam to real religions; those who will not convert outright should suffer such oppression that they ultimately die out. I see no more reason to accept a world with Islam than the Muslims had for accepting a world without Islam.

skzion on September 17, 2011 at 3:04 pm


hasn´t it entered your brain that maybe Logan was not gangraped by islamic goons but more likely by Pro-mubarak thugs? I mean you are a BLONDE Debbbie. YOu know what they say about Blondes. Please please please you must learn to THINK for a start. Different opinions=not bad all the time Different opinions=maybe good Different opinions=let you think sharper

I know you can do it! THINKING i mean! It just takes practice. come on i will help you. Work…with…your…brain…come on it´s not THAT difficult…brain tissue…needs…to..WORK…!

RorschachBlot on September 17, 2011 at 3:35 pm


    hasn´t it entered your brain that maybe Logan was not gangraped by islamic goons but more likely by Pro-mubarak thugs?

    And the thousands of people who saw what was being done to Lara Logan and did nothing to intervene or help? Were they also pro-Mubarak thugs?

    Miranda Rose Smith on September 18, 2011 at 6:19 am

“hasn’t it entered your brain that maybe Logan was not gangraped by islamic goons but more likely by Pro-mubarak thugs?”

Lara Logan was NOT raped by pro-Mubarak demonstrators, she was touched by pro-Muslim Brotherhood protestors, and that’s a fact. Maybe you should learn to think before reacting! And I don’t know where you’re parroting these talking points from that Logan was raped by Mubarak protestors, the opposite of that is true.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on September 17, 2011 at 4:39 pm

Sean, Where’s your proof?

mom on September 17, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Ms. Mom, the anti-Mubarak protestors/pro-Muslim Brotherhood protestors did physically attack Ms. Logan in Tahrir Square in February! Unfortunately you’re being misled by the MSM who distort almost everything all the time, and don’t forget, the rebels/pro-Muslim Brotherhood shouted the word “jew” towards Ms. Logan, they chanted that anti-semitic slur towards her because they thought that Lara Logan was a spy for the Israeli government.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on September 17, 2011 at 11:49 pm


Your religion is just as stupid as theirs.

mom on September 17, 2011 at 5:50 pm

All of our other journalists who were attacked were attacked by pro-Mubarak protestors. 140+ journalists from around the world were attacked by pro-Mubarak protestors. But, you’re saying… with absolutely no evidence… that this one time it was suddenly the anti-Mubarak protestors. Just. Out of the blue. I’m not saying you are wrong but only an idiot would throw that out there as his primary theory.

mom on September 17, 2011 at 5:56 pm

Suicide bombers aren’t in any way a more strange phenomena than Marines rushing out to meet the enemy believing heaven awaits them upon their honorable death.

mom on September 17, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Hey Mummy, where are your credentials since you want to counter what DS has known and studied on this site?

    We just can wait to see your bona fides. Especially since your knowledge on the topic is akin to a silly 15 year old girl with unicorns and rainbows on her pink bedroom walls.

    Thrill us with your acumen and just perhaps we will all leave this blog and flood yours./

    Skunky on September 17, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Mom, I think your boredom at CODE PINK is showing. Either that or a troll like you need to go back to the bridge you came from. You just spew out crap that I hear all the time and when people want to debate you, you hop to another talking point without even refuting the first counter arguement.

    Mario on September 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm

How sad it is, mom, when moral anemia presents itself as objectivity.

lee on September 18, 2011 at 1:36 am

Old news, this “new” Arab Spring was in process and planned over 4-5 years ago.

What is everyone doing besides reacting every time “something happens.” This stuff doesn’t happen by accident people.

Lots of planning and ground work goes into it, just ask Soros and Obama.

JE on September 18, 2011 at 4:11 am

I thought that dawn was finally breaking over the Arab world when those nice, middle-class crowds thronged Cairo’s Tahrir Square chanting “freedom” and “democracy” without burning American and Israeli flags.

Those nice middle class crowds gang-raped Lara Logan, and I’m sure, plenty of other women, and burned Coptic churches, Yet he missed that. It’s a case of the kind of groupthink you can slip into when you’re surrounded by professors. I believe it was George Orwell who said that some ideas are so stupid, only intellectuals can take them seriously. This is a dangerously naive human being, a permanent 15 year old.

Miranda Rose Smith on September 18, 2011 at 5:07 am

Idle hands for the devil’s workshop never made more sense. No manufacturing or incentive to do better, what could go chaotic?

Lars on September 18, 2011 at 9:16 am

What about the journalists attacked by anti-Mubarak protestors when they were storming the Israeli embassy?

pot smoker on September 18, 2011 at 10:34 am

Well, “pot smoker”, that puts the odds at 140 to one.

mom on September 18, 2011 at 10:36 am

I hope every country in the world embraces freedom. Anyone who doesn’t is a war monger and a fool.

mom on September 18, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Mummy, your stupid thoughts will get more peeps killed and you don’t even know it. Grow up.

    Your problem is that you have not realized yet some people DON’T want freedom. If you can get that through your thick skull, you may finally see the light. Naive fool.

    And I will use RUSSIA in lieu of a ME country just so you can see it’s not one type of people. Why don’t you research what has happened to Russia (including the mentality of the people…which is key) since Yeltsin. You will see that some people who have had freedom in their mouths spit it right back out.

    Grow up!!!

    Skunky on September 18, 2011 at 10:49 am

Skunky, the fact that you keep using “grow up” as insult leads me to believe that you are quite young. I’d be surprised if you’re out of college. Listen, kiddo, the whole idea that a people “doesn’t want freedom” is precisely why they need freedom. Those too indoctrinated, brainwashed and duped to understand that they are slaves to theocracies will never see the light if their societies are deprived of the freedom of speech and the separation of church and state. I’m going to include you in that lot, seeing as how you’re a slave to the Religious Right, but I’m mostly talking about Islamic people here. Those who subscribe to Islam, those indoctrinated in it from their youth, will never see the light of day when it comes to human rights or religious tolerance under any sort of totalitarian leadership.

You think they’re better off under a totalitarian regime? Why, then, did we depose Saddam? Why wasn’t Iraq better off under his leadership? Why weren’t the Americans better off under the rule of the Brits? You’re full of crap, my friend. There is no progress without struggle. Give the progressive people in those countries a fighting chance. Put your racism and intolerance aside and support the causes of those few rising against the archaic rules and traditions that have kept them back all these years. Because, look, dude, we’re not going anywhere without them. The “towel heads” and the “dirty brown people” are here to stay. You can hope they evolve or you can hope they all die but hoping they are kept in check by a bunch of dictators is just backwards and defeatist. It’s cowardly.

mom on September 18, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Mummy, it is YOU who is young and naive. YOU are talking about religious theologies while I was using a non-religious example. Instead of being an arrogant, know-nothing, I ask you to study Russia AFTER Yeltsin.

    You and I may love our freedom and liberty but you are so wrong when you believe people who have never had it as good as us want what we have. I can understand you thinking that (As I once naively did) but you spouting hippy-freedom-love SCREAMS that you have not only done your homework, but you have NOTHING of substance to base it on except what makes YOU feel special and kind-hearted.

    And I ask you to look at Afghanistan. That freaking hell-hole that should be leveled into a parking lot. You are WRONG if you think we don’t regret or mourn the fact that those ignoramuses don’t want to taste freedom or liberty. YOU can put your big-girl panties when you finally figure out that while ALL people should be free, not all WANT to be free.

    And our best and brightest should stop giving their lives to the most dumb and ungrateful. GROW. THE. EFF. UP.

    Skunky on September 18, 2011 at 6:23 pm

To Mom: The above subject has brought much repartee and debate on your stance on ‘the Arab Spring’ and ME change. Tone and intention allows confirmation that you believe over time democracy, logic and reason will take hold in the ME as it has done in western countries.

Just a question Mom, that I’d like you to answer. With mass migration from the ME to the West, even before latest wars, why do Islamists transplant to democracies with a ‘backpack’ filled with the ideology of Shariah law for all, honour killings, polygamy, gender apartheid, arranged marriages, Shariah compliant banks. Why don’t they assimilate and integrate, why do they wear the Burka. Why do western universities educate Muslims gratis only for them to show their gratitude in suicide bombing innocent citizens of the host country. Why do they use the Human Rights clause to cause havoc in free societies at the behest of the weary taxpayers in pro deo lawyers, interpreters, when in their countries no such practice exists.

Mom, why has the western world gone on red alert at airports in funding the tightest security globally. It is to protect us from them. Democracies love life, they don’t, if they did why do they give their children up for suicide bombing.

There is no freedom of speech in the ME and tribalism reigns. Democracy and tribalism are like water and oil. As you suggest that in time to come democracy will take hold, well, this will be like rolling water uphill…..unless we are vigilant Islam will take hold and permeate our civilisation with the help of the unsuspecting abetter. As Arafat explained, the Muslim womb is our secret weapon, and we are funding their mission through our generous welfare packages and acceptance of their ideology.

Eyes Wide Open on September 18, 2011 at 8:44 pm

Skunky, No, YOU grow up times five! Nyaa.

And, what are you talking about when it comes to Russia? Do you honestly think Russia is worse off now than they were under Yeltsin? Sure, some policies failed miserably: most notably privatization and deregulation. They’re still much better off than they were in the Cold War Era. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You read some dude’s book and now you’re an expert? Do some real research, chief.

mom on September 18, 2011 at 9:07 pm

Eyes, Pretty much none of the things you claimed are happening in your little diatribe… are actually happening. There is no threat of Sharia Law taking root in America (just some Conservative talk show hosts scaring people). There is no Muslim demographics crisis (check Snopes). Muslims living in America keep their heritage intact for the same reason as do the Jews, Amish, Hindu, etc. They also abide by our laws at the same percentage of any other minority group (or the majority). What’s the difference between a suicide bomber and a Columbine school shooter to the victims? Do you know how many wack-jobs we have in this country of every race, creed or religion? A lot. They aren’t all Muslims. They aren’t most Muslims. A lot of them are Christians so… why don’t we get some fierce dictator to control those psychos, eh?

mom on September 18, 2011 at 9:17 pm

Mummy. There is a joke that asks “What is the definition of hubris”. The jokey answer is…”An ant, swimming on it’s back down the river with an erection screaming ‘OPEN THE DRAW BRIDGE. OPEN THE DRAW BRIDGE'”.

I’d like to amend that to read the definition of hubris is a pea-brain like YOU coming here and thinking (very erroneously!) that your Liberal heart knows more than DS and all the facts she studies and researches. You have a lot of chutzpah, but when you open your stupid mouth, nothing comes out but stink and stupidity. If you know more than DS, PLEASE link your website so we can all see all your hard work. We will convert once we get a hold of your thesis.

With each post you reveal your Commie Liberal cards. With each post your pea-brain dissolves into rancid pea soup.

YOU are the one who came here championing freedom and liberty and yet when I knock your stupid argument flat on its arse, you answer me with a statement (Russia being better off now under PUTIN in lieu of Yeltsin) that glaringly contradicts your initial point of view (freedom and liberty). LOL. How sad are you?

And NO, I do NOT think Russia is better off now than when they had a running chance at TRUE freedom and democracy once the wall came down. It is NOT my fault those fools in politics and in the normal citizenry DON’T want TRUE freedom and democracy. I know more about Putin’s Russia than you know about those shimmery unicorns on your pink bedroom wall, Mummy dear.

And Mummy, do tell us how a sorry state like North Korea (again, I am taking the Islam out of the equation since you think peeps are BAD for not trusting the Islam death-cult) can have their comrades (forced citizenry) actually KNOW what freedom and liberty is when they have total control of the country. That means that most citizens have NO IDEA how other countries are living because they don’t know ANY OTHER EXISTENCE THAN THEIRS. THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE TOTALITARIAN!!!

You’re a spoiled, dumb brat. I’d like to take your freedom away and drop you in Iran or North Korea. You are offensive because you are very dense and you are doing more harm and you don’t even know it. GROW. UP!

Skunky on September 18, 2011 at 9:47 pm

Mom: “None of the things you claimed are happening in your little diatribe…are actually happening.

Have you followed Debbie Schlussel’s previous posts, she explains USA Islamic situation with chapter and verse. Pure proof.

‘What’s the difference between a suicide bomber and a Columbine school shooter to the victims?’
A victim is a victim, is a victim, if dead to be grieved for, if injured to be returned to good health physically and emotionally. The same as victims of car accidents, sporting accidents, work related accidents.

However, the difference between the two shooters is that Islamists are religiously motivated with evil intention, with martyrdom, 72 virgins and a payment to the shooters parents. Ask the Fort Hood psychiatrist, an educated person why he was screaming the war cry ‘Allah Achbar’ as he continued to kill and maim his colleagues as did the 9/11 terrorists.
There is a difference, no TSA security upgrades for the Columbine nutter who had serious personality flaws.
Have not noticed any suicide bombing coming from the Jews, Amish or the Hindus. Cultural differences are accepted in the pot-pourri of nationahood but foisting an ideology onto others is not. The USA has about 300 million people, of course they’ll be other nutters but proportionately per capita the most hideous murders have come from the Islamic terrorists.

Having lived in the USA, Canada, Britain, Africa, Europe and the Pacific Rim over the last 8 years I do not need to use Snopes as a reference. The evidence is first hand to support my previous posting.

The facts below speak for themselves.

*Islamic extremists call to set up three independent states in the UK that fall under Shariah law | Mail Online

*UK immigration: Polygamy, welfare benefits and an insidious silence | Mail Online
*Bernard Dineen: Honour killings that bring shame on Britain – Columnists – Yorkshire Post
*Sharia law in the West

*Muslims caught praying on the streets of Paris face arrest in tough new law | Mail Online
*Muslims clash with police after burning poppy in anti-Armistice Day protest – Telegraph
*muslim shariah law

Eyes Wide Open on September 19, 2011 at 12:05 am

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