October 5, 2011, - 10:07 pm

Steve Jobs, Genius, RIP; Enough of the “Jobs Was Muslim” BS

By Debbie Schlussel

**** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATE ****

Although I currently own only one Apple product (an iPod–a gift from a friend), I will always have an affinity for the genius that was Steve Jobs, who died today.  My very first computer ever was an Apple Macintosh (or Macintosh Plus–I forget which).  That was just as I was going off to college in the fall of 1986, and I was the only one I knew with my own computer.  But he revolutionized that and revolutionized it even more, as you know.  In many ways, he was not only the father, but the godfather of Silicon Valley.  Even if you never owned an Apple product, if you played Atari (as I did as a kid) you were touched by Steven Jobs (he worked for Atari before there was Apple).  Or if you enjoy the amazing Pixar animation at the movies–that was his, too. And he never graduated from college. He made several comebacks. But in another day, he might have been aborted, and it would all have been lost.

It’s sad that someone so bright, so innovative, so entrepreneurial is gone only in his mid-50s (he was only 56).  But he was one of the lucky ones.  My own father died of pancreatic cancer, and like most, he died only several months after his diagnosis (he self-diagnosed).  Jobs beat back pancreatic cancer for a few years, which is rare (and he had the rare form that was supposed to be curable with surgery).  His billions show that, rich or poor, you can’t beat G-d’s plan when it’s time.  It bothered me when TMZ and many other news sites published photos of an emaciated, skin-and-bones Jobs after he resigned from Apple.  I wished people would let this man live his last days in peace.

Although I’ve read attacks on Jobs regarding his refusal for several years to recognize his first child, a daughter, and other charges against him, we don’t know what really went on in his personal life, and it has little relevance to what he did to change the world in terms of technology.  My friends who are Mac, iPad, and iPhone users swear by them and will never go back.  They say they never get viruses that infect and incapacitate their computers, as I’ve  had happen on my PC so many times over the years and especially recently.  And his “cloud” concept along with the iPad will revolutionize technology for years to come.  It changed the game and left companies like the struggling HP in the dust.

And, finally, there are the “Steve Jobs was a Muslim” claims.

I’ve been getting e-mails saying this from various Muslims–a religion that has very few of its adherents among the great geniuses, scientists, technology innovators, and  inventors in the world.  Ever since Jobs announced his resignation from Apple, they sent me the claims. Here’s a tip, Muslims: Steve Jobs was a Buddhist.

Yes, technically, according to Islamic law, Jobs would be considered a Muslim, just as Barack Obama would.  His biological father was a Syrian graduate student (in the U.S. on a student visa) who impregnated an American Christian grad student.  They eventually married, but after Jobs was given up for adoption.  The Syrian, Abdulfattah John Jandali, is now, at age 80, Vice President of a Nevada casino, so he’s clearly not a religious Muslim.  And Jandali never met Jobs nor did he even know Jobs was his son until a few years ago.

Jobs was raised by Paul and Clara Jobs.  Steven Jobs was never raised with any connection to Islam, Syria, or Arabs.  He never made any connection with or outreach to these groups later in life when he could have and was trying to reconnect with his past. Jobs never made an appearance at a mosque, never cited the Koran, never identified with Islam or Arabia in any way. Never uttered a single sentence or phrase in the lingua franca of their extremist politics.

It’s a safe bet that if Steven Jobs had been raised as an Arab Muslim, there would be no Apple. Not even Al-Apple. And a lot of great inventions that made our lives better and more enjoyable would never have happened. Jobs’ story is the success of American capitalism. And it’s about the kind of innovation and technological spirit that only happens in two countries in the world: the U.S. and Israel. This story would never have happened in Syria, pre- or post-Arab Spring.

And, then, there is the pancreatic cancer gene, BRCA and its variants.  It’s disproportionately common in Jews.  So, you have to wonder whether or not Jobs–even on his biological Arab father’s side–had some of the Jewish genes in his past.  It’s well known that throughout Middle Eastern history, Jews were forcibly converted to Islam.  And, often, we find that people who have high incidence of pancreatic and breast cancer have some Jewish blood in their background.  Scientists found, for example, that a reason breast cancer is likely high in Hispanic women–as with Jewish women–is that there were many Hispanic Jews who converted to Catholicism, whether by force or as the only chance for survival, during the Inquisition.

I wouldn’t be surprised if way back when . . . the Al-Mohad Muslims–who forcibly converted hundreds of thousands of Jews to Islam–forced a conversion of some of Steve Jobs’ biological ancestors.  We’ll never know.

But don’t believe the “Steve Jobs is a Muslim” hype.  He didn’t believe that.  And neither should you.

Steve Jobs, Rest In Peace.

Watch Steve Jobs’ FANTASTIC! 2005 speech at Stanford’s graduation. It begins at about 7:40 in.

**** UPDATE: Reader Gerald reminds us of an important point about Steve Jobs:

One thing I do appreciate about Steve Jobs … his refusal to allow pornography to be distributed through I-Pad app store (or whatever it is called). He caught a lot of flack over that from the perverse liberals, but he stood his ground and never relented. Now that he has passed away, I hope that whoever takes his place stands firm on that conviction of his.

Amen, Gerald. Principle like that is rare today. Few corporations are willing to stand up and do what is right on money-making stuff like this. Jobs and Apple could have made even more money off of apps had they agreed to porn apps. But he did the right thing!

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133 Responses

Although I use Linux and the various Unixlike operating systems now, my very first computer was Macintosh SE/30, I still have it and it still works, albeit a little obsolete now. I too am saddened at such a loss at so young an age, perhaps, the phrase, the candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long, now applies. RIP Steve Jobs.

mark hammond on October 5, 2011 at 10:45 pm

As I write this on an IPod touch, I can’t help but marvel at the man’s imagination that brought this gem to life as well as many others. He was gifted with a great mind and spirit. I hope his passing was as peaceful as possible. He will be greatly missed. RIP

Gino on October 5, 2011 at 10:47 pm

Very well written. however when you wrote “2008 speech at Stanford’s graduation”… you might want to correct that to 2005. However the rest of the article was fantastic and i very much enjoyed reading it. I will DEFINITELY look into more of your writings. Keep up the good work.

J: You are right. Fixed. DS

Jon on October 5, 2011 at 10:56 pm

I appreciate Jobs’ contributions. He was the rare mix: a technical genius who was also great at marketing. Usually you get technical guys who are horrible at marketing (like Ray Kurzweil) or great marketers/businessmen who push lousy technology (like Bill Gates).

That said, I was never an “Apple” guy. Used them in engineering school and on some jobs that I have had … never liked them. Just like you have your dog people and cat people, I am a Linux person. (Linux also solves your virus problems!) But one thing I do appreciate about Steve Jobs … his refusal to allow pornography to be distributed through I-Pad app store (or whatever it is called). He caught a lot of flack over that from the perverse liberals, but he stood his ground and never relented. Now that he has passed away, I hope that whoever takes his place stands firm on that conviction of his.

Gerald on October 5, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Unix/Linux will always be free. They’re stable operating systems that particularly run well on netbooks. I have never installed an anti-virus on mine. Apple’s version of BSD is tightly integrated with the hardware so it just works! And Jobs played a big role in making Unix a commercially viable proposition. Apple had a reputation because you never have to worry you might need to add additional protection to the computer. All I had to add was a third party firewall but that is to make it visible and easily configurable. Apart from that – a Mac is more or less complete!

    NormanF on October 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm

I come from Washington, DC, a city that creates nothing but manure and hot air, and where politicians hold themselves out as brilliant or geniuses.

It is refreshing to see that a real genius, a brilliant man, passed through our lives, and made the world a better place.

The possibilities for the use of his inventions are still beyond our scope to imagine.

Jonathan E. Grant on October 5, 2011 at 11:26 pm

I know some people who have issues with Jobs and Apple – and it has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with whether or not he was Muslim (in short, like Gerald, such people are definitely not Apple people, not by any means). Jobs’ philosophy with regard to computer operating systems was exclusivist to the core (no pun intended), to the point that anything made on Apples could not be read on PC systems and vice versa – a philosophy that first manifested itself with the company’s introduction of the Macintosh (note the spelling), and continuing for years thereafter (only over the last decade or more was this issue mitigated, more or less). Such a philosophy also manifested itself in the names of the systems that came to the fore in his last years running the company (e.g. iPod, iPhone, iPad, iTunes).

One person I know had both Apple II and IIe operating systems – which were developed by Jobs’ then-partner in Apple, Steve Wozniak, whose philosophy was considerably more “open” than Jobs’. Wozniak, unlike Jobs, believed stuff written on Apple computers should be shared with other systems such as PC’s. But after Jobs essentially forced Wozniak out of the company, Jobs’ “closed” philosophy viz computer operating systems asserted itself front, center, sideways and diagonal. And this person I know, as a result, developed a hatred of Apple, Jobs, and his overall philosophy that lingers to this day.

But in general (and on balance), Jobs’ legacy was both for better and for worse (this legacy also includes his involvement with the Pixar studio). The book “The Silicon Boys and Their Valley of Dreams” by David Kaplan gives an eye-opening account on Apple’s early years when it was Jobs and Wozniak, and in the years after Wozniak left.

As for Jobs’ stance on pornography on iPads – given who took his place at Apple, I doubt his successor will stand firm on this issue.

ConcernedPatriot on October 5, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    @ConcernedPatriot:

    I have no problem whatsoever with Jobs’ closed system philosophy. He had legitimate technical and business reasons for that approach. And the companies who had a more “open” philosophy weren’t just being nice … it was a business strategy to increase their market share, and also to crowd out competitors. Jobs just picked one business strategy over another, and was rightfully very protective of his intellectual property. Back in the wild wild west days of technology, there were TONS of ripoff artists who would sit around, let someone else take the risk and expense of years of R&D, and then come out with their own cheap copy of it, both in the U.S. and Asia.

    And don’t get me wrong … Gates and Apple came out with GREAT technology. The fellow literally changed the game, and did it in three different decades. It is amazing how influential he was to technology, culture, and the economy. I had nothing against Gates’ technology or philosophy, it just wasn’t for me personally, that’s all.

    Gerald on October 6, 2011 at 12:16 am

      I meant Jobs, not Gates. Sorry.

      Gerald on October 6, 2011 at 12:20 am

      Yes, I’m aware that Jobs’ “closed” operating philosophy was as much a marketing and business strategy as was the “open” operating ethos as exemplified by IBM, Gates et al. – but the point is, for early Apple users Jobs’ instituting his “closed” system caused such issues that they effectively became ex-Apple users.

      ConcernedPatriot on October 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm

After building my own Radio Shack “computer”, learning how to program early PCs, growing up in a house where my father bought the first IBM system to be sold in the South and being babysat by the only two IBM buys in the South (Atlanta, Peachtree Street, near the Performing Arts Center) while Dad learned how to program the behemoth machine; a brother who went to MIT on full scholarship and with two PhDs to his credit became one of the top five cybersecurity guys in the world, sussing out this new world of IT security and designing the systems that you now take for granted ….

… I was the heretic who took to APPLE. You’da thought I’d converted to Anton Levay’s “church”. Bought every Apple, then Mac they produced, right from the first model.

But then brother became head of the UNIX Users Convention, APPLE switched OS to UNIX and now the man who mocked me uses only Macs.

I love’em. I don;t any grudge against the Blue Screeners but I am a Mac guy.

Steve Jobs will be missed. RARELY does one man have such an impact. Sad, sad …

Jack on October 5, 2011 at 11:50 pm

Steve Jobs was one of the biggest and most important persons in the history of the development of the personal computer industry. Not only did this genius along with Steve Wonziak founded the Apple Computer industry but also was responsible for other revolutionary things, such as the foundation of Pixar animations, the I-Phone, I-Pad, I-Pod. Steve Jobs may not be with us anymore but his immortality, legend and iconic legacy is secured as he revolutionized and changed the world with his visions, products and his courage as a American entrepreneur. A gifted Buddhist, computer scientist, inventor, visionary and a man who saw the future in innovation. He was truly a amazing man who inspires others to achieve the ultimate level in the American dream. Rest in peace Steve Jobs your legend will not be forgotten. Along with other great legends in history may it be Michael Jackson, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, Martin Luther King, Isaac Newton, Elvis Presley, Leonardo Da Vinci, Walt Disney you rank among one of the world’s most influential people in history. Thank you Steve for everything as i look forward to even buying some Apple products and appreciate everything you did for the evolution of technology.

Roger Stephen Roth on October 5, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Michael Jackson and Martin Luther King don’t belong on your list. Sorry, but American culture would have been much better off without them both.

    Gerald on October 6, 2011 at 12:19 am

Tragic indeed!!!

I never owned an Apple, but in college, when I was getting pretty intimidated by vt100 terminals connected to Sun servers running (@ the time – this was even before Solaris) SunOS, our Computer Lab had a bunch of NeXT workstations, which like the Suns, were Unix based, but were a breeze to use. On the downside, I was drowned in Usenet groups. The positive – my hitherto non-existent typing skills became sharply honed. NeXT was the best computer I ever used!

When he returned to Apple, I did have issues w/ him terminating the licensing of Macs to companies like Power Computing, Motorola & Umax. Although reading about that recently, he was right in that the market had already decided in favor of the PC, and all that these companies were doing was eroding Apple’s own marketshare.

Those who use Linux are fine, but OS-X and iOS are based on BSD, which is another open source Unix based on a different linage than Linux. I’ve followed the Open Source and Free Software debates for years. Problem w/ the Free Software movement is that it derides the very existence of Intellectual Property, and its founder, Richard Stallman, is just a tad less anti-Jewish than Noam Chomsky or Stanley Cohen, but only a tad. He’s a self-described Atheist, so it wouldn’t be proper to call him a self-hating Jew.

On the claims about his religion, most of his life, he was Atheist (personally, nothing wrong w/ it – it’s even preferable to the cults like Scientology and so on, and even more so Islam) – Buddhism was only recent. And I agree that those who claim he was Muslim don’t have a clue – while he may have accidentally been born into a Syrian parentage, he was neither raised a Muslim (like BO) nor did he show any inclination towards it even when he did get interested in religion – he chose Buddhism.

RIP

Infidel on October 6, 2011 at 12:41 am

A tribute:

http://www.wimp.com/stevejobs/

Ender on October 6, 2011 at 12:51 am

My last paragraph was in reference to Jobs, not Stallman

Infidel on October 6, 2011 at 12:52 am

Great article, Debbie. It’s a shame that it’s on such a sad subject, but extremely informative and interesting.

DS_ROCKS! on October 6, 2011 at 1:13 am

Did any of these commentors ever meet or know Steven Paul Jobs? He was one incredibly hot number in 1979. I knew this was history in the works, so I kept my badge. Someday the stories will be written, on a Mac…

– Apple Computer Employee #352

Pamela on October 6, 2011 at 1:20 am

    That is so cool it almost makes my eyes misty #352. I cannot imagine.

    Jack on October 6, 2011 at 10:24 am

As a hardcore PC man who prefers to roll his own rigs, who has to endure endless calls from Mac users trying to get 3G aircards to work on their rigs, iPhone users trying to get their visual voicemails working, iPad and iPhone X abusers calling in saying “Why am I using so much data when I don’t even use internet?”, and who constantly enjoys the Jihad-ish flamewars between Windows and OS X fan-kids (“u sux” “no. u sux” “u sux moar” “ur momma sux better. w00t!”), I have this to say…

A true genius is never truly appreciated until after his death.

Scoundrel, madman, douchebag, megalomaniac, egomaniac, narcissist, diva, dictator, innovator, genius.

RIP Steve Jobs.

The Reverend Jacques on October 6, 2011 at 2:30 am

“Michael Jackson and Martin Luther King don’t belong on your list. Sorry, but American culture would have been much better off without them both.”
Would that include Elvis and Walt Disney as well? Or do you just have a hang up against black guys? Grow the hell up. It isn’t about you.

M: Gerald, who made that statement, happens to be Black, FYI. DS

Mike on October 6, 2011 at 3:22 am

I applaud you, Debbie, for mentioning that in another day Steve Jobs could have been aborted.

Carol on October 6, 2011 at 3:31 am

Great man, may he rest in peace. In a country that does not discriminate,why does it matter what faith he followed? It’s not a crime to be Muslim. Debbie as a person who seems well educated about world history you should know Islamic Scholars have contrubutied greatly to today’s world! Please don’t disrespect a religion based on ignorance.

Diyala on October 6, 2011 at 3:43 am

    So sad that people such as yourself and so many of my fellow citizens in this country are still trying to pass your beliefs off as a “religion”! Sad, sad, sad!

    chewinmule on October 6, 2011 at 11:35 am

So tired of all this hipocracy and b/s. I am sure people would be more willing to accept he was “a non-practicing jew” if his mother was jewish. He was born to a muslim father and you can not change it. And the fact that he was not raised in Islamic values is because his father was not allowed into his life and his adoptive family did not worry about it. Nevertheless, he was a good man will make it to heaven whatever he practiced

Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians, – any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. Verse 2:62 Holy Qur’an

Steve on October 6, 2011 at 4:13 am

    Hello Steve,

    I invite you to also read Ephesians 2:8&9, in the New Testament of the Holy Bible. Unfortunately, not all are going to make it, regardless of “their” good works.

    texag57 on October 6, 2011 at 10:21 am

  It’s disproportionately common in Jews.  So, you have to wonder whether or not Jobs–even on his biological Arab father’s side–had some of the Jewish genes in his past.  It’s well known that throughout Middle Eastern history, Jews were forcibly converted to Islam.  And, often, we find that people who have high incidence of pancreatic and breast cancer have some Jewish blood in their background.

what a stupid point you made!! You don’t you just say he was jewish ha?

You’re much more ignorant than the a 2years child.
And next time when you talk about islam try to be more respectable you stupid jew.

Steve, may your soul rest in peace no matter what religion you followed.

nano on October 6, 2011 at 4:17 am

    good comment.

    what a stupid writer,
    apparently this writer only writes, but never reads in his life.

    Islam never forced someone to leave his religion through the whole history.

    It is your problem that you don’t read. and you suppose all people are going to believe you.

    saam on October 6, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Hi Debbie, I would love to see you in porn movies played on an iPad post-Steve Jobs. Bye!

Mike Dude on October 6, 2011 at 4:20 am

Debbie, you wasted a lot of time by trying to give a broad information abour Steve that he was a muslim or not. I don’t understand what problem you have with the Islam. You think it was better that he was buddhist not muslim. Anyway, it is easy to write something about Islam on your desk. Because you are still alive and you think death is so far from you. But all of us will die and will see the realities. See you in another side.

Al on October 6, 2011 at 5:14 am

Your article is a hate speed against Arabs & Muslims. What would be the problem if Jobs was Arab or Muslim. Are all Arabs terrorists? You Aricle reminded me of Nazi speech against Jews, degrading, hateful and full of lies. If I’ve the capibility, I’d sue you in court. Stupid & hateful

Mr. Folan on October 6, 2011 at 6:10 am

    Do you have to put your muddy paws on the table? Even your posting is very mechanical and entirely unimaginative Mr. Folan. As I have said so many times to other Islamic spammers, your comments constitute nothing more than a self-pitying whine that persuades no one other than those already in the tank. In fact, it is hard to imagine an adult having even written what you chose to post. As for hatreds, Debbie Schlussel has not advocated the death or destruction of Muslims for being Muslims, but she has made it entirely clear that double standards observed and crimes committed by Muslims should not be excused or simply ignored because they are Muslims. The incessant threats of harm and death are emanating from Muslims here and abroad, and not from their opponents. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Major Nidal Malik Hasan are individuals who share your views. Unlike those creatures, Debbie simply criticizes her opponents and allows them to even post here as long as threatening or patently offensive language is not used. Islam, due to its evident weaknesses, has recourse to other methods when confronting opponents. So, please spare us your canned fury.

    Worry01 on October 6, 2011 at 8:37 am

    What lies did she write? I feel that you are a better and more learned person than your comments indicate. Please enlighten us.

    texag57 on October 6, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Mr. Folan, dude …. get a grip and come down off the ledge. It’s a beautiful world, grab some sunshine and laugh a little. Not everything is aimed at you, bubba. Have a gin and tonic, take a load off. Get you feet up and relax.

    Jack on October 6, 2011 at 10:28 am

Why can’t we express our views and share our insights without stooping to crude personal attacks and insults? This is Debbie’s blog. If you don’t like what she has to say, don’t post here.

Linky Drake on October 6, 2011 at 6:23 am

    Agreed Linky Drake, these anti-DS trolls are the scum of the earth with their ultra hatred towards the woman for lord knows what! When I go onto liberal websites, I NEVER resort to ad hominem attacks against the author of that liberal site or the posters, because that’s completely stupid and moronic.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on October 6, 2011 at 12:12 pm

FYI – There is some evidence that the BRCA genes associated with pancreatic cancer is not limited to Ashkenazim, though the percentage is higher in this population.
http://hmg.oxfordjournals.org/content/7/5/801.full

Tassajara Chica on October 6, 2011 at 6:30 am

So the Jihadis are now out of the woodwork, eh?

‘Steve’ (not Jobs), I know that Islam doesn’t respect the concept of adaption, ever since Mohammed decided that he wanted to marry his daughter-in-law, and used the fact that his son was adopted as a convenient excuse. But Steve Jobs’ parents voluntarily gave him up for adoption, and Paul & Clara Jobs weren’t Muslims. So there is no legitimate way that you can claim that Jobs was Muslim. Same would be the case had his birth mom been Jewish, but had given him away in adoption to Gentile parents. Even if Mr Jandali had been a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, that would still not have qualified Steve Jobs as Muslim, since he had been given away to the Jobs family before he could get his brain infected w/ Islam. (The only religious thing I hold against him is his using the Motorola CISC instead of RISC processors in NEXT workstations.)

Your citation of 2:62 is laughable – Muslim theologians have long maintained that this verse is applicable to Jews and Christians, who in addition to their own holy books, also believe in the Quran. In other words, Jews, Christians and Saebeans who are Muslims!!! Other varying opinions say that this is applicable to Christians & Jews who lived before the time of Mohammed, not after, while some claim that this verse is abrogated by 3:85. In short, Muslim scholars don’t use this verse to teach their followers that Jews & Christians have a status on par w/ Muslims.

Nano, nice way to show your Jihadi colors, but Jews are both a religion and an ethnicity, and Debbie was talking about the latter, wondering whether Steve Jobs had racially Jewish ancestry, since the deseases she cited happened to be unique among certain subsets of the Jewish population. Nowhere did she claim that he was Jewish – in fact, the first thing that she pointed out was that he was Buddhist. But it’s ludicrous for Muslims/Arabs/Syrians to claim him as one of their own, since he achieved everything that he did as an American, and would never have come even close had he been born and lived in Damascus.

Nobody should talk respectfully about Islam, since it’s the most evil religion on the face of the earth, and totally undeserving of even a ‘nano’ worth of respect.

Mike Dude, you missed the part about Apple making it a point to not make porn available on the Apps store. Although Jobs was still on the board, he had left a month ago, and yet, the company hasn’t yet overhauled that policy. They’re even less likely to do it now, after his passing.

Al, every religion is better than Islam. Buddhists, or Jains, or Zoroastrians, or Hindus, or Rastafarians, or Sikhs, or Taoists, or Shintos don’t have scriptures calling Jews apes and rats, or calling for the evisceration of Jews. So of course it’s better that anyone was a Buddhist, and if somebody was not a Muslim, s/he shouldn’t be tainted w/ the stigma of being one. Which is why Debbie did a real service by revealing his religion, which seemed a very marginal part of his life to begin w/.

Infidel Pride on October 6, 2011 at 6:54 am

    Where do you conjure up such an ill-informed, puerile and infantile view of the world? Selective sifting and manipulation of evidence to promote your own agenda is all very well – but exploiting the death of such a pioneering spirit to pedal your racist, xenophobic anti-islamic nonsense is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    Steve Lembridge on October 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm

Great article, Debbie.

One business philosophy that Jobs had was that he always wanted to create things that Apple wanted to create… not things that people wanted. Thus, Apple never had any market research to find out what people desired with technology. As Jobs had stated, if Apple wanted to know what people wanted, then why wouldn’t the people build the things on their own.

Mr. Folan – your hate-filled, Nazi-loving muslims you support are already in court doing their best to destroy this country. Your rant is typical of Nazi-speech which you blame others (or a group of people) for your own mental, physical, or religious shortcomings then want to forcibly silence or destroy them.

Pats on October 6, 2011 at 7:04 am

Oh, to Steve Quran 2:62 again

Didn’t bother to read beyond that point? 2:63-66 is the first of the verses that describe the Jews as apes & rats. Using the Yusuf-Ali translation, which is what you used above:

2.63: And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai) : (Saying): “Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear God.” 2.64:But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of God to you, ye had surely been among the lost. 2.65:And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: “Be ye apes, despised and rejected.” 2.66:So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear God.

Nice attempt @ Kitman!!!

Infidel Pride on October 6, 2011 at 7:05 am

Jobs donated to many liberal candidates and hated the military.

Road Warrior on October 6, 2011 at 7:19 am

Without Islam…there would be no western civilisation period. Without Islam your christian bretheren would have slaughtered all the jews in 1492 (remember spain?)and would not have had to try again in the 1940′s..

Learn and free yourselves from ignorance: http://www.1001inventions.com/

There is nothing great about a nation that built itself on the genocide of the native population; that dropped nuclear weapons over a civilian population -twice- the used massive amounts of chemical weapons over vietnam and caused the destruction of nations (Iraq, Korea and now afghanistan).That has the biggest debt in history; that engages in covert operations across the world; kidnaps and tortures people.

The list is endless…

Barak the Puppet on October 6, 2011 at 8:12 am

I hate to rain on the parade but even though I thought Jobs was good business man, let’s not forget that he “borrowed” the ideas of the GUI and mouse input device from Xerox. If Xerox had had a go getter like Steve then they would be the largest tech company in the world.

Oscar on October 6, 2011 at 8:51 am

Road Warrior is correct that Jobs was someone who supported both BJ Clinton and Obama. However, given the #Conservatives (not just Republicans) who sold their souls to Islam, I’m not going to hold anybody’s Liberalism against him, so long as he doesn’t have a record of pandering to Muslims. Jobs didn’t, and so he’s fine by me. Much prefer him doing that than supporting frauds like Darryl Issa, Carly Fiorinna and others.

He hated the military? When was that?

Infidel on October 6, 2011 at 9:59 am

Excellent. I got chills and tears.

A on October 6, 2011 at 10:57 am

Fuck you Deborah.
You re Jewish bitch.

Soma on October 6, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Get lost you f__king nazi POS! Try and stick to the topic for once, and you’re pathetic anti-semitic hatred is NOT tolerated on this blog, go back to Stormfront with you’re vile, and disgusting hatred you vermin.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on October 6, 2011 at 12:03 pm

Infidel – In the 80′s over lunch, a personal snub of hubby when he found out he was a Naval officer. He wasn’t in uniform and all was well till he found out his occupation.

Road Warrior on October 6, 2011 at 11:03 am

I have an IPod and to me its the greatest thing to come along since I got my first walkman when I was ten. Steve Jobs was that rare breed of technical and marketing genius. In my book he ranks up there with the likes of Henry Ford, Eli Whitney, Walt Disney and Bill Gates. I had the pleasure of seeing his IPad presentation in my college speech class. We learned from him on how to give a good presentaion in front of an audience. Sadly pancreatic cancer is one of the deadliest and I wish his family all of the best.

ken b on October 6, 2011 at 11:08 am

Debbie
As usual, excellent article. I greatly respect the work that Steve Jobs performed but I am not going to bow down and worship the man.
Whenever the Prophetess (Debbie) speaks, the followers of Satan usually howl in anguish for the truth hurts Islamists and Liberals (Marxists). Islam and Liberalism are tools of the Devil.

Confederate South on October 6, 2011 at 11:18 am

With all due respect, what will come out of this is pancreatic research. We as a society continue to marvel over celebrity figures reflective in our pop-culture. He was a “set it and forget” pitch man for electronics that influenced our entertainment needs. I would submit to you Seymour Cray and his genius innovation in the supercomuters. Have we lost the ability to define brillance? Is Thomas Kinkade an accomplished painter, whose work will appear in museums? Will Stephen King and J K Rowling work be our Shakespeare and Proust? Mr.Jobs is no doubt a man that touched many lifes with his marketing of this is what you need, but as far as changing our society I submit to you Dr.Robert Adler, the gentleman who created the remote control that has touched all of our lifes. Time will be the judge of genius.

Simon on October 6, 2011 at 11:47 am

Job’s death is part of BHO’s Stimulus 2 package. Jobs was worth about $7B, and if all of that was inherited, the death tax is 35%. That’s over $2B to stimulate the economy.

Jarhead on October 6, 2011 at 11:54 am

fine, he is not a Muslim. even if he is, what difference does it make?
you dont have to insult Islam. This is so wrong. may God show you His guidance.

Zack on October 6, 2011 at 11:58 am

Good article as usual Debbie, Mr. Jobs died of cancer from what I learned when I heard the news yesterday evening. I don’t own an “Ipod” or anything like that, but to his own credit, Steve Jobs had the intelligence to create a product that folks wanted.

Now to a few of the trolls who commented here with their pathetic ad hominem personal-attacks, why the hell can you morons can’t stick to subject without resorting to attack the messenger for moronic reason! I’ve gone onto a few left wing blogs in the past, and I’ve NEVER attacked the messenger or any of the posters that comment there. Furthermore, this is Ms. Schlussel’s website and if you anti-DS trolls don’t like what Debbie writes/wrote then don’t log onto this blog and don’t type any message at all, simple as that!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on October 6, 2011 at 12:07 pm

You may need to google about islam contributions to science and technology. Your article is very misleading. Your statement that “this only happens in US and Israel…” only proves your arrogance, fanaticism, lack of respect to others who do contribute, and lack of knowledge.

Naj S on October 6, 2011 at 12:11 pm

can you tell me what kind of contributions the jewish people have made in the field of scientific inventions throughout history?

AK: OMG, you’re joking, right? Only a moron would ask this question. Would take volumes to answer your question. DS

AK on October 6, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Your guess is as good as mine that Jobs’ ancestors were Jewish. We’ll never know that for a fact. But given how the pancreatic cancer gene is inherited, its a good bet one side of his family came from them. I have Jewish ancestors too and unlike you, I will be proud of them until I draw my last breath!

    NormanF on October 6, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Debbie- It is not that you would need volumes to answer the question, it’s that there isn’t a coloring book simple enough for AK to follow and understand the points that you would be making.

    Pats on October 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm

AK, try and do a yahoo search and google search you’ll find numerous contributions jewish folks made to world in scientific inventions, etc. And BTW AK, did you know that you’re computer/laptop was invented by jewish people? It wasn’t invented by muslims silly. And Debbie is a smart, intelligent person, you’re cheap, immature and childish insults are completely lame and pathetic.

And you’ve also heard the terms, “Don’t attack the messenger, only disagree what the messenger wrote” and “Don’t throw stones at glass houses”, and that’s what you did, you attacked the messenger for no damn reason buster!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on October 6, 2011 at 12:24 pm

This article glosses over the fact that his first daughter was raised ON WELFARE for two years while he denied paternity. He was rich and signed a form saying he was sterile and infertile.
He later had 3 kids. It’s a miracle!

Lee on October 6, 2011 at 1:30 pm

AK,

Albert Einstein is considered by many recent scientists as the greatest scientist ever due to his theory of relativity which totally redefined classical Newtonian physics.

Check the list of scientific Nobel prize winners for the percentage of Jewish winners.

Facts Life on October 6, 2011 at 1:30 pm

He might not be Muslim but he’s still half Arab. How do you feel about that Schlussel?

The real answer here is who cares what religion the guy is, and why do you care so much if he’s Muslim or not? Do we care that you’re Jewish?

E: I have many friends who are Arabs. It’s the Muslims and the anti-Semitic Arabs we are concerned with. DS

Eagle on October 6, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Good for you if you have Arab friends. Next step is for you to realize that not all Muslims are fundamentalists, just like the rest of the world realizes not all Jews are Wall Street crooks, and not all Christians are Jew-hating Nazis. We did such gross generalization back when we were 5. Unless your only source of income relies on hate speech and fear-mongering… I’d love for you to prove us (on the civilized part of the world) wrong.

    Eagle on October 9, 2011 at 9:00 pm

iRIP

Janne on October 6, 2011 at 1:56 pm

This just in Debbie and everybody who commented here today and last night, the Westboro Baptist Church is planning a demonstration at Steve Jobs’ funeral. Fred Phelps’ daughter Margie Phelps mentioned on “twitter”, “He (Steve Jobs) had a huge platform, gave god no glory & taught sin.”! DS I know where you stand on the Westboro Baptist Church and you took them to task and called them out on many occasions on this blog of yours. And here’s the link about the Westboro Baptist Church planning their protest at Mr. Jobs’ funeral:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/westboro-announces-protest-steve-jobs-funeral-iphone-141530936.html

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on October 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I hate people like them who desecrate G-d’s name. They should be thanking G-d He sends us people who make every one’s life better and blaze the way for changes we don’t know of. Every one is unique. He had His reasons to call someone home before their time but in the end, G-d leaves all of us touched. That is when I remember the gift He brought into our lives, the people we loved and the people we will come to love!

    NormanF on October 6, 2011 at 2:54 pm

He was Silicon Valley’s Henry Ford and Thomas Edison. An amazing guy who liked to come up with new products and make them affordable. My first Mac was/is an i-Mac. Its a gem of a little computer. I’ve never had to install anti-virus on it when I realized Mac’s OS is based on BSD Linux. When I had a problem with it, the Apple Store fixed it for me no charge. Now that is customer service! Products that look elegant, are intuitive and a joy to use. We’re all sad Steve Jobs died so young. A brilliant mind left us and he graced us in so many ways that we lose count of. That’s the kind of people America needs! Hard to think he and his friend Steve Wozniak began the revolution that would change every one’s life in a garage.

We hope Apple will continue to be true to his spirit and life’s work. Steve Jobs, RIP!

NormanF on October 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Is this some kind of anti-islam website?? I’ll have you know I have muslim friends and there is nothing wrong with them! You should probably get to know a couple of muslims before believing all of the media bull crap and judging a whole culture of almost one billion people based on a couple of extremists.

Party rock on October 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Party dhimmi-rock, please stick to the main topic and quit changing the subject like a useless troll. I to have a muslim friend and he detests islamic-jihad terrorism as much as the next person and Debbie herself has a few muslim friends and some arabic friends, apparently you didn’t read her comment to Eagle at 1:49 pm this afternoon? This thread is about the death of “Steve Jobs”, it’s not about you or you’re friends buster, and on this blog DS and all of us who comment here are only refuting the facts about islam and denouncing the teachings/doctrines taught in the religion/theology/ideology, that’s it! Please get you’re head out of the sand and once in you’re life see reality for a change!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on October 6, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    A couple of extremists? Does anyone let you out of the basement? Try reading a newspaper or watching a newscast. You really do need to work on your talking points Mustafa. Yes, and many of us have had the opportunity to deal with Muslims personally. I got to experience higher education with Yemenis, Saudis, etc. My general impression was that they were either quite aloof or belligerent(much like you my friend). It also seemed that a number of them wished to earn a degree while learning as little as possible. So, I would recommend that you drop the “getting to know you” ploy, since the exposure you and your other pals have sought on this blog has not been to your advantage.

    Worry01 on October 6, 2011 at 4:42 pm

      I know some Christians who have some pretty shallow things to say and make dumb assumptions about the world due to their lack of lack of interest, therefore lack of research, therefore lack of knowledge.
      So I guess if I were you, I’d close my eyes to all the other Christians who are great, friendly, and smart people, and assume that all are shallow.

      But, I know Hindus, Muslims, Jews–just people–who say shallow things and are oblivious to reality, too.

      Soooo, my point is: people will be people and one’s characteristic doesn’t define their religion.

      PeacErrwhere on October 7, 2011 at 9:10 pm

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