March 26, 2012, - 4:44 am

If Barack Obama Had a Son, Would He Be a Violent Thug Like Trayvon Martin?

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE: Trayvon Martin VIDEO: Natl Review’s Rich Lowry Praises Al Sharpton, Panthers; Calls for Zimmerman Prosecution

Barack Obama–once again, inserting a racial foot in his mouth–said if he had a son that son would look like Trayvon Martin, the young man in Sanford, Florida, who was shot in self-defense by neighborhood watch official, George Zimmerman, and died.  And, apparently, his son would be as much of a violent thug as Trayvon Martin was, breaking Zimmerman’s nose and striking Zimmerman hard enough to create a bloody gash on his head. (And suspended from school for ten days–why, we don’t know, but he must have done something quite bad. Reportedly, he assaulted a bus driver.) While it is sad that anybody died in this tragic situation, it’s not the cold-blooded, racist murder that’s being portrayed in the media. Not even close.

The Liberal Media’s Choice of Pics Speaks a Thousand Words: Their Photos of Trayvon Martin-Obama & George Zimmerman …

or Another View of Them . . .

I’ve been sitting back watching the rush to judgment and Indy 500 of Grandstanding against Zimmerman, knowing that there was another side to the story that we weren’t being given.  Many Blacks rushed to judgment only because they mistakenly thought the Hispanic Zimmerman was a White man.  If it was another Black man–as most of the killers and perpetrators of violent crimes against Blacks are–they wouldn’t have cared less.  But, now, it is officially an Obama “Us v. Them” Presidential campaign.  It’s an opportune way for Obama to gin up the Black voters who aren’t all that excited about him anymore and not very motivated to go vote in droves like they did in 2012.

Man shot and killed in neighborhood altercation:

While, all last week, I began to see the other side of the story come out, I was not surprised to see fakes and ignoramuses, like National Review editor Rich Lowry, pile on.  Lowry actually praised Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers for bringing attention to the matter  . . . by offering a bounty for killing Zimmerman, something Lowry conveniently forgot.  He also never mentioned that his new hero, race merchant Sharpton, has eight Freddy’s Fashion Mart and Crown Heights murders on his hands.  Lowry called for Zimmerman to be charged by the grand jury and said he deserves to go to jail.  This was even after he acknowledged knowing that Zimmerman was beaten by Martin–President Obama’s newly-adopted violent thug son–and that the shooting was in self-defense.  All of  you morons who gush over Lowry as a “conservative,” long past time to wake up.  (His disgusting statements were on “McLaughlin Group,” this weekend.)  He is with the liberals on this because he’s not exactly a conservative.

On Thursday, I also listened to and watched Glenn Beck, quickly weigh in on his videotaped radio show, calling Zimmerman–about whom he knows absolutely nothing–a “racist,” and completely condemning him. Uh-huh, that’s the extent of Beck’s critical thinking: echoing the liberal media party line.

And I read the police report, which clearly shows that Zimmerman was not the aggressor, but on his back being beaten by Trayvon Martin Hussein Obama.  From Page Seven of the Report, the reporting Sanford Police officer, Timothy Smith, states:

While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground.  Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head. . . .  While the SPD was attending to Zimmerman, I over heard [sic] him state, “I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me.”

Other witnesses back up the account that Zimmerman was violently attacked by Trayvon Hussein Obama.

“The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, ‘Help! Help!’ and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911,” said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.

John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.

“And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.”

And it’s pretty clear what happened here. Um, you’re not on your back with a bloody gash and a broken nose, plus a wet back covered in grass, if you were the aggressor.  At that point, you are the defender.  He clearly felt Trayvon Obama was going to kill him.  And, contrary to “conserva”-liberal frauds like Rich Lowry and the others, once someone is on top of you, beating you, you have every right to respond by shooting him.  Following a guy–even a newly-identified Obama–is NOT a crime.  It’s perfectly legal, unless a restraining order is in place, and that’s not the case here.

Whether or not the police told Zimmerman, “We don’t need you to follow him,” is irrelevant.  That he chose to follow Trayvon Obama was his right.  And Trayvon of the Sanford Hussein-Obamas had no legal right to then approach him and beat him.  Once he did that, there was no crime in shooting him.  That’s the law, even in states where there is no “Stand Your Ground” law as there is in Florida.  In fact, the “Stand Your Ground” law is a red herring here.  It’s really kind of irrelevant and certainly became so, once Trayvon Martin-Obama was on top of George Zimmerman beating him bloody.

What’s really going on here is something else–a race war for those hungry race-baiting hyenas who haven’t had race steak in some time.  It’s mighty tasty now that it’s been served up to Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the Black Panthers.  It’s just as tasty for Obama in his divide-and-conquer, stir-up Black America style of politics.  And it’s tasty for faux-conservatives like Rich Lowry and Glenn Beck to prove that they are so enlightened unlike the rest of us “racist” and “backward” conservatives who don’t agree with the mainstream media race narrative at play here.  Oh, and it’s tasty to PAWNN–the Prince Al-Waleed News Network a/k/a FOX News and CNN and MSNBC.  All of them, taste blood in the water, too.  And ratings.  Cha-ching.

It’s also tasty for the country’s worst ex-governor now hosting a show on Current TV, that no one is watching.  Jennifer Granholm (whose effeminate, gay-esque husband legally took her maiden name and was previously an AIDS fundraiser) was Michigan’s worst contemporary governor.  She helped usher in Michigan’s decline years before the rest of America’s.  And now she has a show with zero viewers (except maybe the two cat ladies not watching PBS or dreaming about Rachel Maddow).  So, she pulled a hoodie-wearing stunt to garner publicity.  Yup, she pimped out this dead Trayvon kid to get people to watch her silly show.  Didn’t work.  She still has no viewers and now everyone else is repeating her dumb hoodie-wearing stunt, so she’s long forgotten. There’s a reason–actually several of them–why I called her “the Governatrix Gran-HO” on my Detroit CBS radio show when she was in office. If ever there was a shameless whore for attention, it’s her.

“Hey, Sorry About That Trayvon Kid & BTW, Watch My Current TV Show! Check Out My Current TV Hoodie. Trayvon Who?” . . .

Jennifer Granholm: Horrible Ex-Governor, Desperate Attention Whore

And finally, it’s great steak for the gun control crowd, which is the main agenda here.  They couldn’t care less about “Stand Your Ground” laws.  It’s the Second Amendment and concealed pistol laws they’re after.  They just don’t want us to have guns.  And they are using George Zimmerman to drive that home.  That’s the real story here.

Also, rarely mentioned by anyone is the fact that Travyon Martin, Obama’s new son, was suspended from school for ten days, as I noted above. Why? Unfortunately, we may never find out because most laws will preclude evidence like that from being raised against the alleged “victim” (Martin) in a trial of Zimmerman. But several reports say it was because he violently assaulted a school bus driver, as acknowledged in his brother’s tweets. And Treyvon’s birth parents (not Barack Hussein Obama) are trying to cover it up. More details here. I’m still hoping some media outlet will dive into that and report exactly what happened. Clearly, in these days where you have to do something really, really bad to get suspended for even one day, he was suspended for something quite violent.

I’ll leave you with my friend, Harvard grad Rahim Azizzi’s insights.  He’s Black (and Jewish):

Yes, it was horrible that the young man died, and in no way am I discounting that. However, the real reason Blacks are upset is because they initially believed the shooter was White (albeit he has a Jewish-sounding surname), and the victim Black. Black youths are gunned down every day and no one bats an eyelash! They take Black on Black crime for granted, but get to marching only when it’s White on Black! This is the height of hypocrisy! How about they march for all people who’ve died to senseless violence regardless of the victim’s ethnic background?

This death is tragic, but Blacks don’t seem to care about a young Black man dying, unless it’s at the hands of someone who is not black. Again, Blacks are killed by blacks every single day to the point it is taken for granted. Where are the protests, marches and boycotts for those victims?

Spot on.

But Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the Black Panthers don’t care about Black murders of Blacks. (Or Black murders of Whites, for that matter, including the brutal torture murder by four Black men of a White couple, Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.)

Those don’t come with the opportunities to get media attention, conduct shakedowns against the government and corporations, and–most important–Get Whitey!

Race Merchants, Inc. has now met its monthly quota of “outrage.”

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Debbie, needless to say, we agree. I can only hope this racial theater all blows up in BHO’s face like with his dumb comments on that police officer who dared to arrest a black race baiting Harvard professor. Meanwhile a few of my fb “friends”, including a nauseating, ambulance chasing lawyer, are wrapping themselves in this flag of injustice. But I have some important questions only for the lovely and talented DS. Debbie, I’ve made them all yes-or-no so you can respond more easily (via text):

1. Are you halachically Jewish?
2. Do you like me?
3. Do you consider Hebrew National meats to be Kosher?
4. Do you secretly check your blog or email on Shabbat?
5. Do you know how to make vegetarian cholent?
6. Do you like hypoallergenic cats?
7. How much money do you have?
8. Do you have to live in a bad neighborhood?
9. How many kids would you bear me?
10. Are you possessive?

A1 on March 26, 2012 at 5:42 am

I am glad that you put this out. Zimmerman is a man who has been charged with no crime, and has not been detained. This poor Hispanic man has had a bounty of $10,000 placed on his head by the New Black Panther Party. No one seems to think that offering a reward to what would essentially be a lynching is a big deal. Did the Ku Klux Klan act this brazenly and have the mainstream media on its side sixty years ago? Even in an era of segregation, a private group or party putting up a bounty on an indvididual would have been deemed the equivalent of a gangster or gang putting out a contract on someone. The Ku Klux Klan operated in the shadows sixty years ago, but the New Black Panther Party feels free to conduct a media campaign to seek the harm or death of Zimmerman.

Also, where is the Hispanic community? Is La Raza dead? Are Hispanic advocacy groups so hung up with running interference for illegal aliens and drug cartels that a potential hate crime victim like Zimmerman is of no concern? Has one of the talking heads from Univision taken Mr. Obama on for glorifying a black teen for racial reasons at the expense of a Hispanic male who was simply trying to survive? This is a situation in which I would support an ethnic or racial advocacy group coming to the defense of someone who is a facing a genuine threat to themselves and their family.

Apparently, Glenn Beck has decided to throw in the towel and grovel for mainstream media acceptance now. His financial situation and craving for acceptance has overcome whatever scruples he had for being independent in the past. He still appear on Fox News with O’Reilly from time to time, even though neither the network or O’Reilly stood behind him in his hour of need. That is groveling in my eyes. Glenn Beck is rather like Lot’s wife looking back at the city longingly that had nearly killed her husband and daughters(gang rape). She ignored the warning of the angels in doing this, and was turned into a pillar of salt. Glenn Beck is doing something similar in this Trayvon Marting case, and he may now become a pillar of salt in the eyes of many now.

You do find out who is real or false in such situations.

Worry01 on March 26, 2012 at 5:48 am

The mindboggling part of the story is that the President of the United States would even comment on any single incident tat occurred in the country. Just like when he scheduled a beer summit for a Cambridge, Mass. incident.

But of course Hussein Obama said absolutely nothing about Black Panters intimidated White voters and older refused to press charges. Can you imagine if te KKK had down this to Black voters?

Bill Co2 on March 26, 2012 at 6:17 am

    You know, not that I’m old fashioned or anything, but whatever happened to presumption of innocence here? Obviously, there was an altercation. Obviously, Zimmerman was having the crap kicked out of him. Obviously, the kid was no angel by his history.

    Can we let the appropriate District Attorney’s office review data and decide whether or not to press charges, and then review the evidence in court, before we come to conclusions?

    To use a previous example of “the rush to justice,” just because Strauss-Kahn was a Leftist, French scumbag politician didn’t mean he was guilty of rape. Remember?

    Occam's Tool on March 26, 2012 at 1:53 pm

      Debbie: I love my cats Rocky and Cassius (Da boyz) and Pepper and Ginger (the ladies).

      All that being said, I haven’t watched MSNBC in forever. I bounce between your blog and Weasel Zippers for the majority of the news that matters to me. For the breast (intentional misspell) entertainment news, I go to the Foxnews website.

      “Realist,” Debbie has had and does have a real career. And if you ever saw her on Bill Maher, you would know that she’s as attractive as she is bright. She’s also very sweet. Her major problem is that she doesn’t review enough kids films, for reasons she has explained, but which I’m trying to think a way around. (Maybe ask for a specific movie and donate a certain amount for a review, with you attending on a Sunday?)

      Occam's Tool on March 26, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    I can’t believe that a president of a huge country like the U.S. would involve himself in community matters and affairs not related to government affairs. There is only one reason he does this sort of thing. It is calculated to stoke the fire and divide. Nothing more or less than that, my friend.

    RaymondofCanada on March 26, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    It looks like Tayvon Martin was prone to pathological responses in response to a simple enquiry of him, and ABC News confirms that Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for 10 days for possession of marijuana in mid-February. But like Obama says, in essence: “Like son, like father.”

    Ralph Adamo on March 26, 2012 at 6:51 pm

(except maybe the two cat ladies not watching PBS or dreaming about Rachel Maddow).

Excellent, as always, Debbie, but, on behalf of Jasper, Perkins, Danny, Ernest, Othello, Persephone, Max and Froniga, abvoe all, on behalf of Philippa and Caesar, whose love for me, need of me, trust in me, helped save my sanity during the Second Intifada, would you please find an epithet besides “cat lady?”

How is your pre-Passover cleaning going?

Miranda Rose Smith on March 26, 2012 at 7:07 am

    above all, on behalf of Philippa and Caesar,

    Miranda Rose Smith on March 26, 2012 at 7:20 am

I thought that all this racism was supposed to magically disappear once the big O became prez. Whut happened? And if he had a son, he actually would have been a Trayon Martin, courtesy his illustrious mother & pastor Wright.

Infidel on March 26, 2012 at 7:08 am

Trayvon Martin is absolutely guilty of assault. Obama, James A. Johnson, Franklin Raines, and the Democratic Party are guilty of TREASON.

Confederate South on March 26, 2012 at 7:15 am

Apparently Trayvon had tattoos and appears to be a drug dealer as well. Check this out DS

markedtor on March 26, 2012 at 7:24 am

Glenn Beck was a fad that peaked in 2010. People who have certain expectations of him these days need to let it go. He always was a blarneystone, and caught the Tea Party wave at just the right time – sold a lot of books, made a lot of money and now he’s back where he belongs

Santorum said that believes Zimmerman is ‘mentally unstable’. I thought Romney’s take on this whole thing was bad enough but Santorum is the living end. He needs to go knit socks or something. Can’t stand him.

AnusPresley on March 26, 2012 at 8:13 am

    I agree with you. Santorum did not help himself by commenting on this case. He was just a go along, which we have far too many of.

    Worry01 on March 26, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Many Blacks rushed to judgment only because they mistakenly thought the Hispanic Zimmerman was a White man.


Miranda Rose Smith on March 26, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Actually I believe that most of the blacks that rushed to judgement only because they thought that george zimmerman was jewish and being white was s secondary reason. White people kill black people in this country and the race baiters do not protest like this. If this had been a person with a name other than Zimmerman (like smith, jones, or whatever), this would have passed like any other killing in this country.

    cg on March 26, 2012 at 9:33 am

Obama is trying to stir up stir up violence as usual. He is the real criminal in this whole mess.

burt on March 26, 2012 at 8:29 am

Love the new race term “white hispanic”, wtf? So they report the story as a young black male was killed by a man with a white father and hispanic mother, a white hispanic. Since when do they report the race of a persons parents in a news story?

Other ways to tell this is a made up crisis, it happened a month ago before it became this racist fad. Next, they are showing pictures of the “victim” when he was 10 to 12 years old, not the 6 foot 3 17 year old he was today.

Also, how about someone report why this poor angel was suspended from school? Do you know what it takes to get a high school athlete suspended? In OK a high school basketball player raped a cheerleader. They suspended the cheerleader for refusing to cheer for her rapist. So what did obamas son do to get suspended?

Where is the outrage for the 3 black men who set a white teenager on fire in Kansas City? How about those 3 black Marine thugs who raped their Sgt’s wife in front of him then murdered them both because he was a white man married to a black woman? No rallies for them.

ender on March 26, 2012 at 9:53 am

Obama and Co. had better rethink this strategy, because when hispanics realize that Zimmerman wasn’t the aggressor and that is hispanic, they are going to flip Obama the bird.

adam on March 26, 2012 at 10:07 am

Thanks for presenting both sides which the Lame Stream Media will not. Maobama continues to show his ignorance and stir up the masses, reverting to his community organizing days.

Lou on March 26, 2012 at 10:27 am

The ‘conservative’ pundits, by and large are just like the ‘conservative’ politicians. Fear and opportunism are driving them to the left. Although the kids at NR have been drifting to the left for a number of years, this episode with Trayvon Martin follows closely on the Sandra Flake incident. This sorry sexual addict lied about the cost of birth control pills (or maybe she didn’t know & didn’t have as many suitors as she claimed & really didn’t know the ins and outs (pardon the pun) of birth control as well as she claimed.

But the Martin incident follows closely on this, and the so-called conservatives see how Rush was attacked. They don’t, by and large, have Rush’s resilience, so out of fear, as well as lurking opportunism, they are going along with the chorus, to be on the safe side. Expediency over principles at all times!

Little Al on March 26, 2012 at 10:32 am

the biased reporting was over the top when the focus had been on the skittles in treyvon’s pocket, as if this negates any possibilty of him being a violent thugg and defines him as an inncoent little boy…

schlussel’s article has also clarified one thing that had been troubling me: that zimmerman didn’t follow the police recommendation to not follow him. i had been associating zimmerman’s decision to follow treyvon as a factor in his death but now realize that he was fully within his rights to do so and was doing so because he took his neighborhood watch responsibilities seriously.

i wonder, if zimmerman had not brought his gun with him, how seriously treyvon would have injured him? killed him?

KIRCHE on March 26, 2012 at 10:37 am

Who’s trying to start a race war? Is it the white people or the Hispanics?

Poncho on March 26, 2012 at 11:11 am

Ender ask, “Where is the outrage for the 3 black men who set a white teenager on fire in Kansas City? How about those 3 black Marine thugs who raped their Sgt’s wife in front of him then murdered them both because he was a white man married to a black woman? No rallies for them.”

Ender, in both of those horrific cases, I believe the perpetrators where arrested and either put on trial or are awaiting trial. They weren’t let go on the scene….

On the news, there seem to to be weekly stories of all kinds of kidnappings of youth, and even more stories of adults engaging in all kinds of sexually deviant behavior with kids. We see this….so do our kids. I’m sorry, but I have a youngster who will be a teenager soon, and if he sees a car trailing him as he walks down the street, he needs to be ready for “flight or fight”. And if a grown-ass man gets out of the car and tries to approach him, then my teenager has my permission to defend himself by any means necessary.

That’s why Debbie is WAY off on this one. From what I can tell, Zimmerman got out of the car, accosted the kid, and started getting his ass whupped, as the kid had a right to do. Zimmerman pulls out a gun and shots the kid. I’m sorry, but in this age of Jerry Sandusky scandals, no grown man has any business approaching a kid he doesn’t know. The police dispatcher told Zimmerman to keep his butt in the car, but he got stuck on stupid and now we have the ensuing tragedy.

Debbie post some picture of Trayvon taking a fun picture of himself as labels him as a thug. Um…he’s a teenage boy having horsing around on a photograph trying to portray himself as a tough guy. That’s what teenage boys do…stupid stuff. I did the same stupid stuff and took the same kind of pictures when I was a teenager. There is not one shred of evidence on any police record or school record that Trayvon Martin was a “thug”. He was a clean-cut kid from a middle class family. It is Debbie and her apologists that are going to try to portray Trayvon as a thug

And so Trayvon is a “violent thug” for defending himself against some strange man trailing him in a car??? Let’s look at the facts:

Zimmerman had a gun. Trayvon Martin did not.
Zimmerman has a police record. Trayvon Martin did not.

I’m sorry, but wrong is wrong, no matter what the race of those involved. It is a shame this has become such a racial issue, because this could happen to any teenage on any street where you have an overzealous fool with a gun who wants to play cop.

New Black Panther Party??? Fuc…forget them! They have what, seven members nationwide? But they get all the media because of this stupid and irresponsible “bounty”! You don’t answer a case of vigilantism with more vigilantism! Just becuase the usual suspects are trying to capitalize on this case does not take away for the bottom line….an unarmed teenager was killed by a man trailing him in a car, and this man was not arrested, or even detained for it.

Yes Debbie, hundreds of young Black men are killed every year by other Black men. That has been a tragedy that has been discussed by Black folks for years. But weren’t you the same person who said, “anti Black-on-Black crime” movements were racist? And unfornately, many of those young men (not all) who are killed by other young Black men were involved in something shady that led to their deaths. There is no evidence of that with Trayvon Martin.

And THAT is the reason this story has such power. And as I saw for myself in church yesterday, the reason this story has such resonance is that Black parents who are trying to raise their boys to do the right thing, go to school, be productive, still fear harm could come to their boys as a result of the color of their skin. This fear has been around since the days of Jim Crow. Moms are especially fearful and devastated by the case. Many have managed to shield and keep their children away from so many of the vices that affect so many Black youth. But they cannot shield their kids from walking down the street and encountering some overzealous fool with a gun…

D. O'Nay on March 26, 2012 at 11:13 am

    A neighborhood watch officer does his duty and he is the one accused of killing a young man for no reason whatsoever. The facts and the law don’t agree with your opinion. We are a nation of laws. Its sad that our President can’t ask people to follow the laws. This has nothing to do with race. People are getting their story second hand. And like the accounts in the famous Japanese film Rashomon they may not be close to the actual truth. None of us where there and we can’t exactly testify as to what actually happened. All we do know is the law grants someone the presumption of self-defense. Whether its was exercised properly, only Zimmerman knows. He has to still live with what he did for the rest of his life. No one ever shoots someone without a great deal of thought because of the legal, financial and moral consequences involved. Debbie is right, the only controversy here is a media-manufactured one.

    NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 11:39 am

As for the “Stand Your Ground” law, it simply gives a law-abiding person the presumption of innocence and also one has the right of self-defense any lawful place you happen to be… not just in your own home.

The local Florida police and DA found George Zimmerman was entitled to self-defense because his life was in danger from a violent thug out to kill him. Its not even approaching the truth to describe the thug who was killed as an unarmed by-stander minding his own business. This is not a simple White Man shoots Black Man altercation.

What the national uproar does reveal is our President, MSM and the race merchants were so busy destroying an innocent man in order to gain fame, ratings or to racially grandstand at the expense of the country’s well-being and an American citizen’s rights. Its completely reprehensible. There are always two sides to every story.

Debbie, thanks for bringing this to light. When I first heard about last week, I figured there was more to this than we were being told in the mass media. Turns out my instincts were right. We live in a nations of morons, were people believe whatever they’re told and are too lazy to do the most basic research. All we know is we’re told George Zimmerman needs to go to prison, not because the facts bear it out but because the maw of the beast, the insatiable, howling mob must be fed. Its frightening… and sad.

My sympathies are with Zimmerman. There was no reason on earth to trash his life like this for saving his own life in accordance with the laws of the State Of Florida and of our country. And the criticism of him from many slacker morons and know-nothings who populate this country says more about them than it does about a guy in the middle of a media firestorm he probably thought it would never happen to him. Only in America can such a wretched travesty make an appearance.

NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 11:14 am

Debbie and everybody who commented here (Mewlyn Dorgan, you’re a prick and a jackass, and you’re the one who’s the racist you scumbag) I didn’t rush to judgement on this story on Trayvon Martin, throughout all of last week and the week before the left wing media along with Sharpton, Jackson, etc. did the typical “knee-jerk” tactic and rushed to judgement and did the typical of playing the race card.

I wanted to hear all of the facts from all sides, NOT just one side, now as a black person like myself, I could’ve easily rushed to judgement and used my emotions and feelings without doing any critical thinking and using logic. But I know we live in a country where you’re “innocent-until-proven guilty”, and it turned out that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense, because Mr. Martin was trying to physically harm Mr. Zimmerman.

Think about it folks, if someone wants to physically harm you, you have NO choice but to defend yourself, you don’t let the aggressor do his (or her) dirty work on you and get away with his/her crime like that!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 26, 2012 at 11:24 am

Near the end of you article you mention the Florida “stand your ground” law.

You correctly wrote…

And finally, it’s great steak for the gun control crowd, which is the main agenda here. They couldn’t care less about “Stand Your Ground” laws. It’s the Second Amendment and concealed pistol laws they’re after. They just don’t want us to have guns. And they are using George Zimmerman to drive that home. That’s the real story here.

Yes, yes, yes, this is the real reason for the federal grand jury and other state panels and media circus.

The Holder crowd wants to take down Florida and its pro gun laws by Federal mandate, harassment and/or blackmail.

As an NRA member, and resident of Florida, I am keenly aware if Obama gets re-elected he will unleash Holder and the gun control crowd. As we have seen the last three years Obama has been almost silent on gun control. This shooting in Florida, is a Rahm “crisis that must be taken advantage of”. Obama never the less must be careful in this election year not to be caught on the wrong side of the gun control issue, like Slick Willie Clinton.

Oops! After the reference to this Trayvon goon being his son, he already is. Good for him.

Panhandle on March 26, 2012 at 11:30 am

    That’s right Pan! You see it proper!

    Obama has said almost NOTHING on the 2nd Amendment because he told Sara Brady NOT to worry…he would work “behind the scenes” to appease the anti-gun lobby.

    And that disgusting beast Holder is STILL Attorney General even after “fast and furious” and over 200+ Mexicans DEAD and two Americans dead (Zapata and Terry). If they win in November it will be full-steam ahead and if you think that fraud Jihad Daryl (“9/11 was simply a plane crash”) will do ANYTHING to impeach them then you’re smoking the crack Whitney Houston would be smoking if she was still here!!!

    This is indeed the bizarro administration. The cat is long out of the bag. Now, it’s all about if you will admit you will see it or not!

    Skunky on March 26, 2012 at 1:05 pm

What’s really disturbing about this case is the lack of journalistic integrity shown by the media. I didn’t see one TV report that gave a factual, unbiased police version of the events. All we saw were a brief and slanted report of the shooting, images of the victim, the shooter, and racial ambulance chasers like Sharpton and Jesse “hymietown” Jackson, who pass for our society’s moral leaders. Truly disgusting and a depressing degeneration of journalism.

Martin on March 26, 2012 at 11:30 am

    The media are in it for the ratings and the sensationalism. Add the race angle and you’ve got a story that wouldn’t attract any attention were of the same race and the facts were exactly the same. When you think about it, this happens across the country every day of the year. And we usually don’t have the President Of The United States commenting about a local matter. Its not a civil rights dispute. The Justice Brothers want to make everything about race but that hasn’t been the case in America for a few decades now.

    NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 11:45 am

Don’t be surprised,if Sharpton meets with Martin’s family, then a family member reads a statement,saying “Nobody manipsnapes me, or my fambly”( Brawley’s infamous statement ).

Phineas on March 26, 2012 at 11:31 am

Without a doubt,this has reached terrific proportions in the media.I must point out though,Zimmerman was told by the police to stand down,he did’nt. His wannabe cop tactics got him into this fight and when he started getting his ass beat he shot the dude. I believe the evidence is quite clear he started the fight. Whether Travon was doing anything wrong or not,Zimmerman was told to stand down.As a NRA member I am a believer in the stand your ground laws. However,this does not give anyone the right to start a confrontation,start losing the fight,then shoot the guy you started the fight with.Zimmerman acted like a punk cop wannabe in my books.

sprayman0 on March 26, 2012 at 11:50 am


    Zimmerman may have been a wanna be cop, but you need to understand that from what has been reported, on the record reported, Zimmerman was going back to his SUV, punched by Martin, and then assaulted. The witnesses have come forward. You need to understand that the POLICE did not tell Zimmerman anything. A 911 dispatcher, not in any way a LEO, advised him to do nothing. Bad, you bet, but Zimmerman did nothing to get himself arrested then or now.

    WilliamMunny on March 26, 2012 at 6:28 pm

Treyvon Martin was on a ten day suspension from school for punching the bus driver ,where is the media reporting it. Why not show the picture with all his tattoos and mouth full of gold teeth.I am at the point that I cannot ever believe what I see in the mainstream media.

@ 11:56, TD: Great minds think alike as I’d forgotten to note that originally and just added something about that to the post. Apparently, it was even worse than punching the driver, but a full-on violent assault. Yet no media coverage b/c the Trayvon Martin parents are lying about it. DS

Tom Dooley on March 26, 2012 at 11:54 am

I see that you have listed all of the black as well as white scumbags that would kill for the attention of the media. Funny, I remember Jesse Jackson when he lectured to his own people to attend school, to seek gainful employment, and to get themselves off the welfare wagon. In other words, emulate white people and become worthwhile citizens and not a population of parasites. It is no wonder that whites want nothing to do with blacks. Blacks are overly violent, vicious in many cases. Blacks are extremely poorly educated as a result of their own behavior. Ask a black to point in the direction of the continent of Africa. They will point in the wrong direction 80% of the time. What is wrong with these people? No body seems able to answer that question. They are simply a waste of humanity and always will be. I was a police officer working in the black community for thirty years in Miami, Fla. and found them laughable with their moronic gang signs and other nonsense. Most black do not have gangs because they are unable to organize anything that complicated. I was a member of a motorcycle club(The Screwballs)when I was young and believe me it was similar to the operation of a small corporation. At any rate it was far too complicated for the average black to organize. I will quote to you a statement from a black man that I just heard on the radio. “White people have been taking us for a ride for the past one hundred years”. Hearing utterances like that are simply exasperating. The whites provide the blacks with welfare, food stamps, free lunches. etc., etc. and scumbags like Sharpton and Jackson malign whites for their generosity. What would blacks do if all the entitlement programs ended tomorrow morning. What would the big mouthed blacks and liberal white trash do? Let us see how many of his black brothers and sisters Jackson would invite into his home and provide them with a meal.

John B. Lurvey on March 26, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Lurvey, you need to re-read what the hell you posted!

    There are many fine Black, Conservatives fans of DS (and Americans) and I would be ashamed to lump them in with what you posted! You are missing the mark!!!

    RACE has NOTHING to do with it. One is NOT born more stupid if black or more smart if one is born Asian. I reject all you said!

    My goodess, what you wrote is a horror! You’re no better than racist Obama-Putin, his ugly wife and the “Justice Bros”!!!! Racism is NOT cool no matter the group targeted!!!!

    Skunky on March 26, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      The race merchants and the Stormfront/Vdare crowd have a lot in common. They’re birds of a feather. The exploitation of people’s fears and discontents – that’s always had a long track record.

      That said the poster is right about the hypocrisy of the race merchants. Its not that they want to eliminate racism and discrimination, to the contrary they want to profit off division among Americans, whether that’s real or something they instigate themselves to inflate their own power.

      We should look at the facts before impugn someone’s motives and comment about something before we know all the facts. This has happened before and it will happen again.

      NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    John Lurvey, I’ve seen comments like yours on that racist and vile website Stormfront and VNN Fourm (ironically I’ve NEVER commented those sites nor I’ll never comment on those websites for as long as I am alive on this planet), are you saying that all of us black people like myself are leeches off the government, loves the welfare-state, loves the government in people’s private lives, etc.? Dude I can tell you that I hate the welfare-state, I don’t want the government to be in my life or anybody elses life, and I try my very best to not be a leech and live off of other people. When I was unemployed the first time around many years ago, I hated it and I felt ashamed of it, I wasn’t proud that I was unemployed and not working. I was living with my family members at the time and they had no choice but to support me in looking for employment.

    Now you also say that many of us black people behave like those in the hip-hop and rap music industry (ironically I hate both rap music and hip-hop music, as a black person I think both music sucks) dude that is more likely because the entertainment industry portrays folks of my ethnicity (I could be wrong on this, correct me if I’m wrong, I do make errors/mistakes). And I also don’t wear baggy-pants that’s about the waist-size of 100 and having it hang below my light-brown ass, I don’t wear a “wife-beater’s” T-shirt, nor I don’t talk hip-hop language and sound like an uneducated doofus. John, I dress very simple, I’m very clean cut (if you met me you’ll think I’m a spanish speaking person because I am so light or you’ll think I’m an arabic person as well), I wear slack-pants or dress-pants (plain-front), I wear collard plaid shirts or regular collard shirts, and I talk real good (despite me talking pretty quick), etc.

    So bro, don’t stereotype all of us black on what you see in the entertainment establishment. There are plenty of good black people who live their lives honestly, respectful, hospitable, etc.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, langauge & culture!”

    Sean R. on March 26, 2012 at 3:27 pm

Spot-on, Debbie! The media is corrupted and race-war hustlers like Sharpton, Jackson, and Black Panthers are really what they are: wicked hyenas out for blood and dead bodies.

Bob on March 26, 2012 at 12:36 pm

D O’Nay, you are, as usual, having trouble seeing beyond race. Let me correct you. DS is NOT wrong but YOU certainly are.

2012 is indeed a VERY important year I think. If you are not hip to the fraudulent Conservatives yet than you have not been paying attention and/or lack deductive reasoning and a discernible mind. The last 12 months have showed who is weak and who will have your back when in a media attack. I learned plenty when the Herman Cain debacle was going on. I won’t forget it.

Glenn Beck is all wet in this. He (like Bristol Palin to her Mum) has done more harm to his cause than even Media Matters (who are insane and evil). He did wonderful things when mapping out socialism and the many Soros’ groups and Unions doing their dirty tricks and spotlighting the Rafkes’ , Van Jones and Ayers agenda BUT he ALWAYS takes it a bit too far. Sorry, there is something I just don’t see as very genuine with the maudlin fool. In this case, he was WAAAAY off the mark.

I didn’t follow this case but was worried about the “Justice Bros.” involvement and all the hoodie nonsense REALLY made me sick. Not only was it gay but it was just beyond the most stooooopid gimmick I ever heard of. When I saw the NBA team do it in a photo I knew something had gone sour and rancid. And even though I did not seek out the story I kept hearing about it and I kept wondering if Zimmerman was soooooo bloody guilty WHY was he not arrested????

Then when Obama-Putin spoke out I knew something was really rotten. He just couldn’t wait because HE and his ugly wife are racist and he showed his TRUE self when speaking out on this matter. All the friggen’ dopes (black and white) who voted for this charlatan I hope you are satisfied. The bastard is NOTHING like you thought he was. (I was reading a hard rock magazine and even that ugly freak Marilyn Manson boasted that HE voted for Obama-Putin because he was black! A stupid satanist! You know we are beyond the pale when a bogan like that is hopping on the stupid bandwagon!!!!)

THANK YOU DS. I first heard of this NEW angle this am listening to “Quinn and Rose” but you beat ’em to the punch. THAT is why we love this site!

NOTHING the media has told us on this deal has been true and it’s scary how far they wanted to take it. Mr. Zimmerman is presumed GUILTY by many and has a bounty on his head and the Obama-Media DID NOT CARE. It’s an outrage!!

What a dangerous time. I want to recommend a great book to illustrate another time the media did that. Please read “Columbine” by Dave Cullen. NOTHING you think that happened actually happened. The book will creep you out in many, many ways. It’s amazing and scary.

Thank you DS for calling out that puke Lowry. I really hope good Conservatives are paying attention to all the fraud Conservatives and bravo for DS getting us the good guts AS ALWAYS and telling it like it TRULY is and having NO FEAR!

Skunky on March 26, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Dear Skunky:

    Glen is good for a laugh, usually. He is way too conspiratorial. Obama is a Communist, plain and simple. No great mystery. What he’s doing is super predictable. He needs to be defeated in the voting booth. I’m not getting food insurance, for crying out loud. But I do think gold will go up for a while, as we will need time to get through our recession after Obama leaves, and Europe will demographically collapse over the next 20 years and the EU will fracture, therefore.

    All difficult stuff, and I’m hoping either Romney or Santorum get in, as I hold no hope for Gingrich, who took his eye off the ball and made Romney his enemy, not Obama.

    Occam's Tool on March 26, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Right on Skunky, I love the women who stand their ground when they see what is right and what is not.

    Mario on March 26, 2012 at 10:46 pm

“They are simply a waste of humanity and always will be.” Wow. So me, my wife my kids, my church members, my parents, we’re all a “waste of humanity” according to an above post. Mr. Lurvey, there are so many ways I can respond to your hideous post, but let’s go to another time in history when people spoke and felt like you did about a group of people:

Das Schwarze Korps [SS Newspaper] 24 November 1938:
The programme is clear. It reads: total separation, total segregation! What does this mean? It does not only mean the total exclusion of the Jews from the German economic system… It means much more! No German can be expected to live under the same roof as Jews. They must be clearly identified…. And when we compel the rich Jews to provide for the `poor’ of their race, which will certainly be necessary, they will all sink together into a pit of criminality.

Hitler’s Speech in Wilhelmshaven, 1 April, 1939
“Only when this Jewish bacillus infecting the life of peoples has been removed can one hope to establish a co-operation amongst the nations which shall be built up on a lasting understanding

Hitler’s Table Talk, October 1941:
“From the rostrum of the Reichstag, I prophesied to Jewry that, in the event of war’s proving inevitable, the Jew would disappear from Europe. That race of criminals has on its conscience the two million dead of the First World War, and now already hundreds and thousands more.

You’re in “good” company, Mr. Lurvey, you’re in “good” company…

D. O'Nay on March 26, 2012 at 12:49 pm

Excellent Job Miss Schlussel! Your article provided much more information than some of the other popular Internet News Provider’s, including WND.
Yet again, Obama assumes the role of being a 100% Black man being victimized by the “White” man.
Has he forgotten about his Pearly White Mother and alledged Arab muslim heritage. Obama is far from being a proud African-American. Its an insult for Obama to say,”If I had a son, he would look just like me”. Ha!
Ms Schlussel’s blog contains much more information: Example:
The Lame Stream Media doesn’t report this: Witness Says Trayvon Martin Was On Top Of Zimmerman Beating Zimmerman. Zimmerman Cried Out For Help. Witness Goes To Call 911. . Thanks Debbie….Dan

Dan on March 26, 2012 at 1:26 pm

I’m with Miranda Rose Smith on this one. Crazy cat ladies never hurt anyone. 😉

Dr Dale on March 26, 2012 at 1:51 pm

Debbie, your such a Jewish bitch. All you are doing is using your prejudice articles and racist remarks to attract a few trashy people. You’ll never have a real career. Burn in HELL JEW!

Realist on March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Take you’re anti-semitism hatred somewhere else, Ms. Schlussel has “zero-tolerance” for anti-semitic jew-hatred on this blog of her’s and I’ll be looking for her to erase and delete you’re disgusting and vile message you unhinged lunatic troll! DS has a real career in which she runs her own law-firm business, she did all of that with her brains, intelligence, etc., she didn’t start her own career and business by stealing people’s money. And you’re not a realist, you’re not fooling me you loon, you’re nothing but a friggin scumbag who’s the scum of the earth, go back to Stormfront, VNN Fourm, etc and share you’re ultra jew-hatred with those racist losers!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on March 26, 2012 at 3:13 pm


    Stay classy with that bigoted attitude of yours. You’ll go a long way in life with it.


    NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Realist says :’racist remarks to attract a few trashy people’

    Just because you have an opinion doesn’t mean that you can pompously besmirch the commentators here. Written evidence from you comment allows us to believe that you’re ‘grammatically challenged’.

    Your intention was to spew Jew hatred, that being the case your anti-Semitic comment had as much impact as ‘rocking horse shit’.

    Eyes Wide Open on March 26, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Skunky, there is wisdom in what you say about knowing the “rest of the story” and not jumping to judgement. Historically, many men (and women) have been lynched and wrongly imprisoned because of people assigning guilt before the facts are in, so your concern is very justified. But this case…I don’t know…it’s so weird. And Debbie is calling Trayvon a “thug”, which is strange to me. The real “thugs” that I’ve seen are always packin’…whether it’s a gun, knife, or some sort of weapon. Very few criminals that I know of walk down the street wanting to start some trouble with a can of ice tea and a bag of Skittles.

And if I’m foolish enough get out of my car and confront a teenage male, AND I get my butt kicked, am I justified in pulling out a gun and shooting him? Wasn’t I the one that got out of my car and initiated the contact???

D. O'Nay on March 26, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    You weren’t there. The police and the DA reviewed what happened and concluded it was a legitimate case of self-defense. That’s very different from killing someone for no reason, which is homicide.

    As far as I’m concerned that’s how it ought to stand unless a different set of facts come to light in the future.

    NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    D. O’Nay, the Obama-Press are STILL posting pictures of Treyvon from 5 years ago. At the age he died, 5 years back is a significant difference. C’mon. I can’t see why you still hold on to the erroneous “poor, innocent, black child” meme. We are being zoomed here. He beat his bus-driver a week before he was killed.

    As I stated, I didn’t follow the story and I heard it EVERYWHERE and I was starting to believe what I heard. I was so angry and I felt (without knowing the facts…most which are STILL being hidden) that the accused was really looking for a fight. I was so wrong…see what happens when one follows the meme and has zero facts?!

    I may have even heard some of the Glenn Beck commentary because on the weekends my local radio stations play the best of he and Vannity’s shows at the strangest times (they change the programming schedules at the drop of a hat) and I can tell you ALL I heard made me believe that what the Obama-media was selling was the truth.

    Then I heard “Quinn & Rose” this am and I was sooooo shocked. I should not have been because I kept saying to myself “This is getting out of hand. If this guy was so out of control and un-abashed HE would have been arrested”…but the cops didn’t even comment!

    “Quinn & Rose” is a great show. He really gets down in the dirt and exposes stuff you don’t hear on the generic “Conservative” shows. When I heard it this am (half asleep) I was like “I knew it wasn’t adding up”.

    And the real racists here are “The Justice Bros.” and that fraud Obama-Putin. When I heard him spouting off I knew he had pre-planned it and wanted to stoke some racist fires because he is a racist…just like his ugly wife and his buddy the corrupt attorney general!

    So far, I believe the deceased was a THUG.

    Oh, and Charly (with the moron spelling) I LOVE it when you call me racist. It feels like a kiss. Make it matter thou’ and call me a Raaaaaaaaaaacist!

    Skunky on March 26, 2012 at 5:21 pm

I respect all the regular contributors who have commented on cat ladies.

But at the same time, I remember Debbie’s earlier posts about people who personalize their pets, and attach human qualities to them. When it goes to that extent, it is a sickness, and unfortunately, as we know, many of the PETA types care more about animals than about people.

Remember a decade or so ago when a mountain lion killed a hiker and was subsequently killed? And all the animals rights types and the mainstream media expressed more concern about the mountain lion than about the hiker?

This is the kind of thing Debbie is talking about.

Little Al on March 26, 2012 at 2:27 pm

One name, two words: Rodney King.
No matter what the FACTS are, if Zimmerman is “innocent,” can you imagine what will happen in Orlando, or any number of other cities in the U.S.??
Sharpton, Jackson, the King’s (in general), Panther’s et al etc are text book cases of “Bullies.” I am tired of being bullied. It’s going to be a long hot summer in the “Sunshine State.”

Sick_Boy on March 26, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Sadly, Sick_Boy, I think you are right.

    WilliamMunny on March 26, 2012 at 6:49 pm

Former CCH anchor Joe Oliver who is Black defends his friend Zimmerman.

Bill Co2 on March 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Former CNN anchor Joe Oliver who is Black defends his friend Zimmerman.

    Bill Co2 on March 26, 2012 at 2:41 pm

Glad you are covering this…it came out yesterday that the pic of the thug without a shirt isn’t the correct Trayvon Martin, but this one with gold grills is: The young #TrayvonMartin shown by media&his family and the latest picture of 6’3″,footballplayer,innocent? Still a thug!If it looks like a thug,they’re a thug. Here’s more about him out today from the AP: Family spokesman: Trayvon Martin was suspended from school because of pot residue in book bag – @AP

freedom4usa on March 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm

oops, update with link fixed: Family spokesman: Trayvon Martin was suspended from school because of pot residue in book bag – @AP

freedom4usa on March 26, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Apparently Obama didn’t learn his lesson when accused the Harvard Police of “acting stupidly”.
Obama then had to eat a lot of crow for talking when he didn’t know all of the facts. Remember the “beer summit”?

Once again Obama has run his big mouth before finding out the facts.
I hope and pray this time it comes back to bite him in the ass big time.
If I was the President I wouldn’t ever comment on anything that I didn’t know all of the facts on, but then I’m not a moron like our current President.

smg45acp on March 26, 2012 at 2:42 pm

Debbie Schlussel, like a lot of conservatives on this board like Skunky,is a racist idiot.

Zimmerman also has a checkered past when it comes to violence. There are also witnesses (2 white women) who claim they saw Zimmerman on top of Martin. And don’t get me started on Zimmerman’s alleged use of the phrase “f**king c**ns”.

More stupidity from DS:
[Whether or not the police told Zimmerman, “We don’t need you to follow him,” is irrelevant. That he chose to follow Trayvon Obama was his right.And Trayvon of the Sanford Hussein-Obamas had no legal right to then approach him and beat him. Once he did that, there was no crime in shooting him.]

You don’t know for a fact that Martin beat up Zimmerman, and if he did why he did so. By following Martin, Zimmerman gave up his right to use the “stand your ground” as a defense. We don’t know if Martin felt threatened by Zimmerman.

It’s funny how you defend Blacks when they’re killed by Muslims, but not here. Debbie you’re not a conservative, you’re just a racist idiot.

Charly on March 26, 2012 at 2:43 pm


    In your world every one is a racist idiot because they followed the law and the facts of the case. That’s a disservice to real victims of racism.

    Again all the facts point to self-defense. It makes no difference if their racial identities had been reversed. The result of the investigation would have been identical.

    I look beyond skin color and look at people’s motives and character as the police and prosecutors’ office did. They made the right decision. If you had worked with them you’d know why they came to that conclusion.

    NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Charly, spare me you’re utter crap and since you had the nerve to attack Skunky like a self-righteous coward, show me and everybody here ANY proof and evidence where Skunky made racial-slurs and racial statements on this blog? And don’t give the BS of “yadda yadda she made all types of anti-Obama rhetoric yadda yadda”, and being critical of Obama’s policies and being anti-Obama has NOTHING to do with race or ethnicity.

And you’re also wrong Charly in you’re other paragraph, the stupidity is coming from you you troll, Martin tried to do physical harm to George Zimmerman, WTF was Mr. Zimmerman suppose to do, stand by like a dunce and let Trayvon Martin injure him or god-forbid kill him? Lookit, Trayvon Martin was NO saint or sacred-cow, but also Zimmerman felt bad for killing Martin, he didn’t kill him because he wanted to do so, he did in self-defense, because the kid was trying to harm him physically.

“It’s funny how you defend Blacks when they’re killed by Muslims, but not here. Debbie you’re not a conservative, you’re just a racist idiot.”

There you go again you asshole, “yadda yadda racist racist yadda yadda”, you sound like a friggin parrot-bird doing “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” and calling people racist for no reason. No Charly you’re the one who’s the friggin racist jackass, and go ahead and call me an “uncle-Tom” because I’ a black-conservative who’s a fan DS and an Independent and Individualist. Charly if you’re ignorant of history and I don’t mean to change the subject, but the arab-muslims where the original slave-traders in Africa who enslaved black-africans and sold them to the Europeans. And DS is NOT a racist, if she’s such a racist then explain to me how come she has plenty of friends who’s a “non-white minority” (she has friends who are black, hispanic, asian, arabic, persian, east-indian, etc. and yes she has white friends as well).

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 26, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Even more stupidity from Sean R.:
[Martin tried to do physical harm to George Zimmerman, WTF was Mr. Zimmerman suppose to do, stand by like a dunce and let Trayvon Martin injure him or god-forbid kill him? Lookit, Trayvon Martin was NO saint or sacred-cow, but also Zimmerman felt bad for killing Martin, he didn’t kill him because he wanted to do so, he did in self-defense, because the kid was trying to harm him physically.]

How dense are you? YOU DON’T KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MARTIN BEAT UP ZIMMERMAN!!! AND IF HE DID, YOU DON’T KNOW IF MARTIN BEAT UP ZIMMERMAN IN SELF-DEFENSE!!! 2 witnesses say that Zimmerman was on top of Martin!!!! Zimmerman felt bad? You are very stupid.

As for Skunky being a stupid racist, she knows what I’m talking about.

Charly on March 26, 2012 at 3:35 pm

If I had a race baiting President he would look like this:

CaliforniaScreaming on March 26, 2012 at 3:36 pm

[In your world every one is a racist idiot because they followed the law and the facts of the case.Norman F.]

That’s total BS of course. The only facts in this case are that a young Black man who was UNARMED was killed. There was enough probable cause to arrest Zimmerman. Whatever evidence there is to clear Zimmerman, should be presented in court.

Charly on March 26, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law gives a law-abiding person the right to use force to repel an attack wherever they have a lawful place to be. And there is no dispute Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman. The only thing that is controversial is the race of the perp and guy defending himself. Its people like you who make race the issue because you refuse to look at the facts.

    NormanF on March 26, 2012 at 6:46 pm

      NormanF, you don’t know what you’re talking about. It is very much in dispute who attacked whom that night and race is very much involved in this incident:

      [Around the time when Martin was talking with his girlfriend, Zimmerman was calling 911. When the 911 dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin, Zimmerman said, “Yeah.” The dispatcher told him to stop following the teen and that police would arrive momentarily.

      Zimmerman didn’t listen and continued his pursuit of Martin, making comments under his breath. He was heard saying, “They always get away.” At one point it sounded like he said, “F-ing coon.”]

      Charly on March 26, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Damn, Charly, don’t let a little thing like official police reports, REAL eye witness statements or facts get in the way of your rant. READ THE REPORTS, not listening to some Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson wanna be spew hatred..

    WilliamMunny on March 26, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Trayvon gets bleached by the media:

CaliforniaScreaming on March 26, 2012 at 3:42 pm

I live in FL and often walk at night as it is too hot during the day here. I can attest to the fact that those neighborhood watch ppl are pests but I never even considered punching their lights out. I notice that if I walk in the street in clear view they pretty much leave me alone.

Brian on March 26, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I meet Trayvons all the time riding public transit. They are punk ass black trash and yes there is their share of punk ass brown and whit trash as well. He ain’t no angel just as much as they portray Zimmerman as a murderer. The lynch mob Jesse and Al are creating will backfire. The media is playing with fire. And if the liberal media thinks its going to scare NRA members by riling up the ‘hood then they obviously don’t know any NRA members.

CaliforniaScreaming on March 26, 2012 at 3:55 pm

No Charly you’re the one who’s dense my friend, and according to you’re analogy when the two witnesses claimed that they saw Zimmerman on top of Martin, did they origianlly see that Martin tried to harm Mr. Zimmerman? This kid was the “aggressor”, and if Zimmerman was ontop of Martin, maybe he did that so the police can get their and arrest Martin for trying to physically harm George Martin.

As NormanF said minutes ago, this story has to do with “self-defense”, simple as that, and the authorities and prosecutors weren’t worried about skin-color and race. Did you also know that a few folks wanted to pay someone to kill George Zimmerman for killing Trayvon Martin? Last I checked paying someone to kill another person is indeed illegal, that’s like homicide.

And when Skunky comments here again, she’ll straigten you’re sorry ass out for calling her a racist, ironically the woman is a “multi-racial” lady, and you STILL haven’t showed me any proof or facts on where did Skunky made a racial statement! As I said Charly either you show me and everybody here some facts or STFU and don’t comment here EVER again. Go back to the DailyKos, LoonWatch, Huffington Post, Democrat Underground, Mondoweiss, etc. and share you’re stupidity and idiocy with those crazy cranks.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 26, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    That’s right Sean. That retard “Charly” has no idea that my dad was half Mexican and half black. I love it when he calls me a “racist” because it shows what a dumb, know-nothing reactionary he is.

    And as you pointed out, he can’t pinpoint ONE time I was raaaaaaacist. Because I react to people’s character (or lack of) and values and don’t give a sh** about race or identity politics.

    But “Charly”, please, when you call me racist give it some pow and please call me a raaaaaaaacist. The laugh-track is added in when your make a fool out of yourself as you do EVERYTIME you post!!!

    Skunky on March 26, 2012 at 5:35 pm

      [That’s right Sean. That retard “Charly” has no idea that my dad was half Mexican and half black. I love it when he calls me a “racist”]

      Skunky, you really are a stupid idiot. Your Dad being half Mexican and half Black doesn’t prevent you from being a racist. And I’m not going to believe that’s true just because you say so.

      Charly on March 26, 2012 at 8:18 pm

        C’mon “Charly” you dumb, ignorant dope. Call me raaaaaaaacist.

        I don’t care what the hell you call me. I don’t need to chase you around with my bona fides.

        I love that I get you so riled up you hate me.

        And let the record show (just for giggles and laughs) that you have NEVER provided proof that I am a raaaaaacist.

        Because you can’t. That’s why, you sad retard.

        Skunky on March 26, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Can we get a word from Al?

CaliforniaScreaming on March 26, 2012 at 4:02 pm

The WH incumbent has reduced the American presidency to new humiliating lows with division tactics. His personalising of incidents diverts attention from his poor record of governance, transparency and overblown ego.

His latest personalising on foreign soil is worse than ‘cringe worthy’. He can’t seem to get enough of the Turkish PM, Erdogan and made that known.

‘To top off the love fest, Obama concludes:

“And I also appreciate the advice he gives me, because he has two daughters that are a little older than mine — they’ve turned out very well, so I’m always interested in his perspective on raising girls.”

Taking advice from a radical Islamist about raising his daughters sounds rather strange. Isn’t Obama one of the first nu-age WH incumbents whose mother-in-law has been installed on full WH benefits to help with the girls. What does this say about super woman, Moochelle’s capabilities.

We are now witnessing the behaviour of a manufactured leader who has not achieved anything worthwhile by dint of hard work. The support of his list of great pals says it all. Louis Farrakhan et al……..paving the way for an Ineptocracy.

‘Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy)
– a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Eyes Wide Open on March 26, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Race has EVERYTHING to do with it. They races behave like magnets which repel one another. Sadly, I was 11 years old and in the 6th grade when I discovered this little-known fact-which eventually culiminated in race-riots.

And, guess where they’re taught it? AT HOME! Percentage wise- I still maintain the Blacks hate more, because they thrive on victimization through white-guilt.

Patrick on March 26, 2012 at 4:32 pm

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