May 30, 2012, - 12:59 pm

Poles Were Complicit in Holocaust: Outrage Over Obama “Gaffe” is Fraudulent, Ignorant

By Debbie Schlussel

Barack Obama has done enough legitimately bad things that we don’t need to manufacture phony outrage over things he does that really aren’t so bad. Such is the case with the feigned shock and fake moralizing over his comments, yesterday, about German Nazi death camps in Poland being a Polish death camp. Here’s a tip for Poland and ignoramuses in the lumpenconservatariat who now engage in revisionist history: Poles murdered millions of Jews, they maintained several death camps, and they wiped out almost all of both sides of my family, as well as those in hundreds of thousands of other Jewish families. This wasn’t just the Nazis. It was tens of thousands of eager Poles and more. Obama made no gaffe here. Poland’s willing executioners took their significant place among Hitler’s willing executioners.


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There is a reason why Poland was so easily occupied by the Germans. Yeah, I know–they were “just taking orders.” Just taking orders when they helped round up Jews and helped man gas chambers. As if Nazis from Germany did this alone! Polish police all too happily worked with the SS to round up Jews. Polish police all too easily took their place in helping run and operate the death camps. Facts are stubborn things. But, sadly, not as stubborn as morons and blind partisans.

I had to laugh when I read this:

Poland’s Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Wednesday Obama’s words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just “regret”.

Are you kidding? Someone needs to remind Mr. Tusk that his people were the ones doing the hurting and the turning over to the Nazis and the mass murder of at least half of the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, some of them from my family. You are “hurt” by calling Nazi death camps, “Polish”???? Um, where were they? Who helped operate them and round up and turn in the camps’ Jewish occupants, soon to be turned into ash and fumes?


There is a reason that President Obama, yesterday, awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously to Jan Karski, the former Polish underground officer who provided early eyewitness accounts of Nazi Germany’s genocide of European Jews. And that’s because Karski was unlike most of his fellow Poles, who hated Jews just as the Nazis did and proudly turned them over to the Nazis and/or participated in the mass murderous Judenrein. Even in the Polish underground, hatred of Jews was legion. My great-uncle was in the Polish underground, until they slit his throat while he was sleeping because, one day, the head of the Polish underground demanded a cleansing of its Jews, too.

My paternal grandmother had eleven brothers and sisters. Only one brother survived the Holocaust after the Poles murdered the rest along with her parents, after Poles seized their farm. (Grandma Marilyn was brought to the U.S. before the Holocaust began.) My maternal grandmother had only one surviving sister and brother, out of ten siblings. All the rest–and her parents–were murdered by the Poles. My maternal grandfather’s entire family was wiped out by the Poles. Grandpa Isaac’s father was mayor of the town and owned a hardware store. He hid in the haystacks of a Pole who owed him money and had bought tools on credit, but my grandfather escaped and was ultimately rounded up to the camps, after he heard the Pole tell neighbors he was going to trade my grandfather to the Nazis for a bottle of whisky.

My family and the millions of Jews wiped out in Poland never identified as Polish because the Poles never treated them that way. They were subject to centuries of pogroms and extreme anti-Semitism by the country in which they lived, before they were ultimately rounded up to the camps and mass-murdered with Polish cooperation. They were treated as subhuman all along the way, never as fellow “Polish.” So it’s beyond hilarious now to hear that the Poles are “hurt” by Obama’s description of a German Nazi death camp as “Polish.” As if there weren’t any Polish ones or as if the Poles had zero part in the Holocaust they all too eagerly participated in. Read the 93 pages of “Bystanders, Blackmailers, and Perpetrators: Polish Complicity During the Holocaust” for just a taste of what the Poles wrought on the Jews.

Yes, it is laughable that the Poles, Rush Limbaugh, self-hating Jew Matt Drudge, and a gazillion Republicans and incredibly obtuse and ignorant members of the lumpenconservatariat–most of them no different from the Obamabots in their lack of intelligence, knowledge, and common sense and decency–are incensed over this “gaffe” that really ain’t a gaffe at all. It’s intellectual dishonesty to insist that these death camps on Polish soil were not at all Polish and merely “German Nazi.” Here’s a list of the Polish ones–did they not exist? Did they exist in Poland only because the Germans did this and the Polish had no part? Only a liar or a moron would make these claims. The White House should have made no apology to Poland. These major death camps existed in Poland for a reason: Polish complicity in the Holocaust and willing cooperation with the Nazis.

* Auschwitz

* Belzec

* Chelmno

* Gross-Rosen

* Majdanek

* Plaszow

* Sobibor

* Stutthof

* Treblinka

Keep these names in your mind when you read this quote:

Poland’s government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former Nazi German death camps as “Polish” because it says the term — even if used simply as a geographical indicator — can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany’s World War II genocide.

Although located in Poland, Auschwitz for example was set up and run entirely by German dictator Adolf Hitler’s occupying forces from 1940 to 1945.

Huh? The Poles were not just forced into this by the Nazis. They were active participants, many of them gleeful and eager to murder Jews. To call these camps Polish is no “gaffe.” Poland DOES bear responsibility for the Nazi genocide of Jews.

It’s just fact. And it’s denial and fraud for Poland and others to argue otherwise.

Yes, there were a few righteous gentile Poles who saved Jews. A very tiny few. The majority were all too happy for the Judenrein, especially in the way it took place.

That was the real Poland during World War II. Anyone who says otherwise is a fraud.

And if you wonder why so many Jews are liberal and won’t vote Republican, BS, like the absurd denial that Nazi Death Camps were Polish, certainly doesn’t help in endearing Jews to the GOP.

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why did u delete my post? afraid of sth ? xD

Proud_to_be_Polish on June 6, 2012 at 5:10 pm

You’re an idiot and do not know history
Plaease read more books not only “Mein Kampf”
Thats all!

For all people how want know true!
In Auschwitz hadnt murder any Jewiesh People!!! In Auschwitz was murder only Polish not Jewiesh people! Only in Birkenau was murder Jewish!!!
My family save 4 Jewish and they travel to the Usa, but i dont like jewish people why? They can only lie and make new wars!

Je?li jeste? tak? polsk? ?ydówk? to pos?uchaj tego.
Najwi?kszym b?edem ludzko?ci by?o to ?e podczas WW2 nie wybito wszystkich ?ydów. ?wiat by?by teraz napewno lepszy.
If you want, come to Poland and visit O?wi?cim.

Jewish lobby on June 6, 2012 at 5:10 pm

No comment… so war in wietnam was in united state? u are so poor.

Kamil on June 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm

U are so stupid omg

Matt on June 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm

ty pierdolona cipo, zastanow sie co piszesz kurwo, obrazasz mnie i moj kraj. takie jak ty- szmaty powinny siedziec w kuchni. kurwa wy amerykanie jestescie najbardziej popierdolonym krajem na swiecie. macie kilku dobrych naukowcow ale 90% to pierdolone pojeby. uzywam takich slow poniewaz nikt nie ma prawa obrazac Polski. za kazdym razem sprzedawaliscie nas, zawsze! cipo jest cos takiego jak ksiazka. to jest to co stoi na twoich polkach. nie mam pojecia skad sie biora takie kurwy. pozdrowienia i fuck you szmato/ bitch. Big Poland!!!!

Polak997 on June 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm

If your article is true the WTC terrorist act was planned by Your country , by your Brzezinski fanatic and Bush family principals.

A tak na serio jeste? pi er do lo bym peda?em z zmielonym mózgiem !

KoniecImprezY on June 6, 2012 at 5:22 pm

There are people and windowsills.
Debbie can I put flovers on you?

DENK on June 6, 2012 at 5:23 pm

bitch!

shady on June 6, 2012 at 5:23 pm

ty szmato jak w ogole mozesz tak pisac, amerykanska gruba kurwo. nie wiesz nic o historii europy a tym bardziej Polski wiec skoncz wypisywac te bzdury bo to co piszesz przekracza wszelkie granice. Gdyby nie Polacy to nie by?o by takiej kurwy na naszej planecie.

Robert on June 6, 2012 at 5:26 pm

You are wrong, do not take for your computer and do not print lies. Do you know where your place? In the kitchen, bitch!

Polishmen on June 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm

DEBIL YOU ARE TYPICAL BLONDE !

BLAH BLAH BLAH WITHOUT THINKING. SHAME YOURSELF.

KoniecImprezY on June 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.
Please.

Morlev on June 6, 2012 at 5:28 pm

You are wrong, do not take for your computer and do not print lies. Do you know where your place? In the kitchen, bitch!
tepa kurwa bez wykszta?cenia ! do garów szmato

Polishmen on June 6, 2012 at 5:29 pm

How low can one fall to gain fame and money ?

During the WW2 all my close family died,except my grandmother and my mum.16 people in total were murdered by nazis,3 houses burned to ground.
My grandfather his two sons and daughter,my grandfather cousin
his wife and two daughters,grandfathers sister her husband and his parents.Together with them died Jews family of four.No one should endure such a cruelty,The way they died,it is beyond anything that could be described.But they all knew what could happen to them and despite that they wanted to help.
My ancestors died trying to help.They died as Heroes.It wasn’t single event, hundreds of thousands died wonting to save human life.I’ve always been Proud of what my ancestor did.And by that I’m Proud to be Polish as millions are too.
To say you have no idea what you wrote about is huge understatement,but I forgive you.
I hope you have achieved what you wanted by writing above article, but will it be peace of mind ? I doubt.

Ps.
Sorry for my English,it might be little rustic.

Regards
Jadwiga Pawlak

Jadwiga on June 6, 2012 at 5:30 pm

“Poles murdered millions of Jews, they maintained several death camps, and they wiped out almost all of both sides of my family”

and they had to hit you hard in the head…

funny story on June 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm

You are wrong, do not take for your computer and do not print lies. Do you know where your place? In the kitchen, bitch!
Do garow glupia szmato

Polishmen on June 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm

You are wrong, do not take for your computer and do not print lies. Do you know where your place? In the kitchen, bitch!
do garow tepa szmato

Polishmen on June 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm

ZAPRASZAMY DO POLSKI, SZMATO.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHERE POLAND IS, YOU DUMB BLONDE?

Debbil Scheisse on June 6, 2012 at 5:35 pm

Well, another ignorant, spoiled stupid who thinks she knows anything about history. Have you ever read anything? Except Gross’ laughable “books”, which are laughed by any normal historian?
Learn basics, apologize and never blog again, because you’ve nothing interesting to share.

Gabriel on June 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm

You don`t know ANYTHING about Polish history, you`re just another ignorant who don`t care about checking facts before publishing. How you even dare to put svastika next to polish white eagle ? Poland was invaded by III Reich and Hitler`s administration created camps to exterminate Poles, Jews and all of the people who were dangerous to German plans. There weren`t Polish death camps beacouse Polsih people dind`t have any power over the occupied teritories. They were slaves, slaves that were heading to slaughter house. Some of them maybe didn`t resist to the power of German army but it was only beacouse they were scared and death was knocking to their doors. So to save their families they were helping Germans but in most of cases Poles were fighting and they didn`t gave up. Check numbers, facts, historic publications. Even Jan Gross, who`s clearly not fan of Poland wouldn`t write such a ignorant bulls*it.

wat on June 6, 2012 at 5:40 pm

Chyba cie pojeba?o dziewczynko.

Rintintin on June 6, 2012 at 5:43 pm

I read your article two times and I can not stop wondering. I am a Pole, and from birth I live in Poland! My whole family comes from the Polish and have been for generations. With us it is a tradition that the elders from generation to generation shall communicate to the stories and memories. I often talked about WW2 with my parents and grandparents. I know the stories of the war from the inside out. I read a lot of articles on the internet, I learned the story with passion and continue to broaden their knowledge. NEVER, NEVER These camps were not Polish … They were built in the Polish, but not by the Poles, but the Nazi occupiers FOR IN GERMANY. 3 In 100% POLISH my family members died in those camps. The Poles did not kill them – they were the GERMANS! They are tyrannized and murdered. During the war, my great-grandparents also died fighting the GERMANS for FREEDOM! The Poles did not kill them, only Germany! Learn to this once and for all! Do not call these camps Polish sze?enie because it is a lie and slander to which the Pole of flesh and blood, are not agree! THIS IS A LIE! Polish Jew helped, hid them from the Germans, fed, and cared about them. We often overpaid your courage with life as my two great-grandmother. We are risking their lives trying to save them. None of my family never gave the Jews, and my grandfather had by watching it as an 8 year old boy, his father’s death and arson around the mansion, with the holding. Germans burned everything, raped all the women in the family’s great-grandfather, and then finally killed my great-grandfather – the father of my grandfather. They did this only because my family helped and hid a Jewish family with three children, who was deported to the GERMAN CAMP OF HOLOCAUST!

czereza PL on June 6, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Before You write that bullshit, read the book: A Question Of Honor american authots: Lynne Olson, and Stanley Cloud. Thats all

andrzejto on June 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm

I read your article two times and I can not stop wondering. I am a Pole, and from birth I live in Poland! My whole family comes from the Polish and have been for generations. With us it is a tradition that the elders from generation to generation shall communicate to the stories and memories. I often talked about WW2 with my parents and grandparents. I know the stories of the war from the inside out. I read a lot of articles on the internet, I learned the story with passion and continue to broaden their knowledge. NEVER, NEVER These camps were not Polish … They were built in the Polish, but not by the Poles, but the Nazi occupiers FOR IN GERMANY. 3 In 100% POLISH my family members died in those camps. The Poles did not kill them – they were the GERMANS! They are tyrannized and murdered. During the war, my great-grandparents also died fighting the GERMANS for FREEDOM! The Poles did not kill them, only Germany! Learn to this once and for all! Do not call these camps Polish sze?enie because it is a lie and slander to which the Pole of flesh and blood, are not agree! THIS IS A LIE! Polish Jew helped, hid them from the Germans, fed, and cared about them. We often overpaid your courage with life as my two great-grandmother. We are risking their lives trying to save them. None of my family never gave the Jews, and my grandfather had by watching it as an 8 year old boy, his father’s death and arson around the mansion, with the holding. Germans burned everything, raped all the women in the family’s great-grandfather, and then finally killed my great-grandfather – the father of my grandfather. They did this only because my family helped and hid a Jewish family with three children, who was deported to the GERMAN CAMP OF HOLOCAUST!

czereza PL on June 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm

You don’t now european history!!! Polish people saved jewish lifes during II WW!!!

Alfaholic on June 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Learn some history you moron.

Viejra on June 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm

pojebalo sie w odbytach jebanym zydom

fuckyourmomjewishshsit on June 6, 2012 at 5:50 pm

Is there any evidence or book that indicates that Poles murdered millions of Jews, and that they maintained several death camps?

According to wikipedia which lists sources, “There is a general consensus among historians that there was very little collaboration with the Nazis among the Polish nation as a whole, compared to other German-occupied countries.
“Depending on a definition of collaboration (and of a Polish citizen, based on ethnicity and minority status), scholars estimate number of “Polish collaborators” at around several thousand in a population of about 35 million (that number is supported by the Israeli War Crimes Commission)“

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_the_Axis_Powers_during_World_War_II#cite_note-Lukas-48

Note that some of Polish collaborators may have been ethnic germans.

What is documented in literature is that there was a significant collaboration between Germans and Ukrainians, Lithuanians, and Latvians. Richard Rhodes’ “Masters of Death” documents probably 50-100 major massacres of Jews on the eastern front by the Nazis with collaboration of Ukrainians, Lithuanians and Latvians. Most victims were shot in the head. Many of these massacres involved 10,000 or so Jews in a single massacre, and all told, about 1.5 million Jews were killed by the Einsatzgruppen and their collaborators. These killings may be the most appalling in history. There was never any collaboration between the Einsatzgruppen and Poles.

And in your anti-Polish comments, you leave out that the Polish government in exile complained and called for action against the Nazis numerous times to the British and US governments in response to the Nazi extermination of Jews. However, the British and US government, which were far more complicit in the Holocaust than the Polish Government, never did anything.

Michal Goralczyk on June 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Hello,
I am from Poland and I don’t want to make statement such as everyone in Poland was saint during the World War 2nd that would be a lie. There always were people who wants to protect their values and those who want to live a better life. I guess the ones you wrote about are in the second category.

I read your message and I believe you have emotional connection to this case.

I am just thinking… Why Poles would kill themselves? Don’t you think it’s illogical? Statistics says during World War 2nd died over 6 milions of Poles. Only about 700 000 died fighting. Continuing this thinking – we built camps, to kill Jews and Poles because why not? It is so fun killing just out of reason…

…but if you think deeper about history of our country maybe you could try thinking different. Being without independence for 123 years because of three countries that invaded us. We almost lost track of our own history and culture but somehow after the 1st World War and tried to build our new home. However we didn’t have enough time because after 20 years of freedom we were again invaded this time by Germans again.
Why we would give up after fighting so hard for our independence? What was the reason behind killing so many people by Poles, tell me?

In my opinion what you wrote is very naive.

Maciek on June 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm

i’m imigrant from Poland so I’ll write this in polish

Ty jebana kurwo, JESTES MARTWA i znajda cie w kawalkach w kilkunastu smietnikach w twojej okolicy

Regards

Emil on June 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm

JEBANA KURWO JESTES MARTWA

Emil on June 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm

Content of this article is way beyond a simple mistake. You miss are plain stupid. Get some history lessons.

Bartek on June 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm

f*c*ing bull’sh’it.

learn more history, watch viasat history or discover you idiot.

wikipedia.com -> holocaust , rudolf hess = more TRUE INFO than this lies from your blog….

American idiot

mkeme on June 6, 2012 at 5:58 pm

You’re dead bitch! come to the U.S. and find you … and once you find it you will, but in pieces!

czereza PL on June 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm

You’re dead bi*ch! come to the U.S. and find you … and once you find it you will, but in pieces!

ZAJEBA? T? KURW?!!

czereza PL on June 6, 2012 at 6:00 pm

See this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9-JV_DNgkY

The Poles were the first to fight against Nazi Germany since September 1939 and there was no Poland-Germany government collaboration.
There were incidents of Polish people collaborating with Germans but also many Jewish collaborated with Germans and led their Jewish brothers to Nazi German death’s arms.
Polish Underground Army (AK) executed many Poles who collaborated with Germans.
The statement “Poles murdered millions of Jews” is totally bullshit.

Greg on June 6, 2012 at 6:45 pm

Camps was on occupied Poland teritory because in Poland lived so many jews. Why so many jews lived in Poland not in Germany or France? Because of polish tolerance since centuries.

Shame on you. You are ignorant.

maky on June 6, 2012 at 6:45 pm

You don’t know Polish history at all!!
Poland was the only cauntry, where people could get a death penalty for helpping a Jews and still we know about more than 6000 heroes who were decorated as Just in among nations of world.
Some historians says, that it could be even milion of Polish people, who were such a great heroes.
I agree, that there were people, who were killing Jews and cooperating with Germans, but those were convicted to death by Polsh Army AK. Sometimes they were doing this, because they had to choose between a live of their familly or Jews.

Ania on June 6, 2012 at 6:47 pm

Some history lessons required, I suppose.

Adam on June 6, 2012 at 6:47 pm

Comparing Polish and Nazi Heraldic is a little bit strange and ignorant, Polish Heraldic was been used many hundred years before Germans turn back Swastika to national symbol. For secondary, Poland has a numerous resistance organisations, created by scouts, ex-soldiers ( for example: Armia Krajowa, Narodowe Si?y Zbrojne), judes (uprising in Warsaw Ghetto)or normal citizens.

Michal Piechowiak on June 6, 2012 at 6:49 pm

You’ve got tobee kidding me????? what are u writing???? total bullshit!!!!

Agnieszka on June 6, 2012 at 6:50 pm

WTC was american terrorist attack. That’s exactly this kind of insult to Pole. Get back to the playground and get a history lesson, because you REALLY need one. My great grandfather helped Jews, risked his life to help them during WWII and I won’t let you say that Polish murdered Jews because it is a filthy lie. This is the worst article I’ve EVER read in my whole life. It reminds me of Hitler’s or Stalin’s propaganda. This is the only comparison that I can make. You’re a real IGNORANT.

Krzysiek on June 6, 2012 at 6:51 pm

How bout’ you write a new article titled: Americans Were Complicit in Virtually wiping out the whole native population on their own continent? Accusing is easy, ain’t it?

Mike from Poland on June 6, 2012 at 6:52 pm

Dear Madam,

You’ve just written total bullshit. Congrats.

Regards,
Wac?aw

Wac?aw on June 6, 2012 at 6:53 pm

What i don’t like about jews is that they are so ungrateful

w4co on June 6, 2012 at 6:53 pm

@NormanF

Maybe you don’t know it, but in Poland before IIWW Polish, Jewish, Ukrainian, Belarussian and other nations lived together peacefully. There were Jewish districts in some Polish cities just like Chinese had their Chinatowns in American metropolies – but it wasn’t a rule. There wasn’t any Jewish ghettos in Poland before Nazi-Soviet invasion in 1939. First ghettos were build by Germans after fall of the Polish State.

The truth about Polish collaboration with Germans during WWII is that it never happened. Poland was the only country in entire Europe which was occupied by Germany and never established collaborationist government (French, Norwegians, and others did). Instead of that Poles established underground state in opposition to German occupation, run the strongest and the best organised resistance in entire Europe – about 380 000 soldiers in 1943. Polish underground state issued also sentences for traitors who cooperated with German occupant – the only possible sentece was death penalty. Nevertheless these underground organisations couldn’t exist without support of the entire nation. The spirit of fight against Germans was so widespread that even teens and kids wanted to kick them out from our home. For example: uncle of my father shoot german soldier when he was only 7 years old; look at little soldiers of Warsaw upraising – they have even their monument here in Warsaw.

Jewish weren’t the only people condemned by Germans for extinction. Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Czech, Russians, Belarussians were killed in Death Camps as well. And these camps were never run by Polish! The only reason why death camps were placed on Polish soil is that about 50% of Jewish population in Europe lived there. And as you know they didn’t leave Poland before the WWII while German Jews did.

Poland occupied by Germany was also the only country where helping Jewish people was prohibited under the threat of death. And once again you may be suprised of the fact that Poles saved more Jewish than any other European nation did – check the Yad Vashem Institute from Israel. As far as I remember Polish citizens were honoured more than 2500 times with the medal “Righteous among Nations”. But many heroes who helped Jewish famillies under the threat of being killed by Germans remain unknown.

You may heard a lot about so-called “Polish anti-semitism”, “Polish death camps” and Polish collaboration with Nazis. Consider it once again, becouse you might not heard everything that is worth to know. All we want is not to put on good front. We want only the truth – some disgraceful things like giving out Jewish to Germans also happened. But you should know that it wasn’t common among Polish people, and much more Poles fought agains Nazism and Communism, helped Jews and perished with them in death camps!

Adam on June 6, 2012 at 6:54 pm

Mr Hitler was a bad, because he was too soft for jews

k on June 6, 2012 at 6:55 pm

yea, she realy dont….

DebbieDoNotKnowNothing on June 6, 2012 at 6:57 pm

It is rude, primitive and stupid. The author is such a blonde she should become a stand up comedian.
PS: With this kind of german surname I am pretty sure a loving grandpa of an author was murdering polish citizens of jewish and polish ethnicality. So there is no surprise grand daughter is so much trying to clean his name and flush this dirt to somebody else…

Mark on June 6, 2012 at 6:59 pm

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