August 24, 2012, - 7:58 pm

“2016″ Maker Dinesh D’Souza is Islamopologist, Said America Deserved 9/11, HAMAS CAIR Hero

By Debbie Schlussel

As a movie critic, I’ve been asked a lot lately if I saw the anti-Obama movie, “2016: Obama’s America,” which is in theaters today. My answer is no. I wasn’t sent a screener or invited to a screening. But, more important than that, I’m nauseated with all the gushing over Dinesh D’Souza, the maker of the film, who is also a well-known apologist for Islam and particularly extremist Muslims embraced and employed by the Obama administration, such as Obama adviser and Muslim Brotherhood agent Dalia Mogahed.


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It’s funny how mindless gushers and bots in the lumpenconservatariat eagerly eat up his movie, despite the fact that D’Souza essentially blamed America for the 9/11 attacks, saying Muslims have a right to hate us because America is decadent (hmmm . . . is that a “legitimate rape” of America, Dinesh?). It’s a stark fact they either don’t know because they are incredibly ignorant or don’t care about, because they are incredibly stupid and unable to engage in any sort of critical thinking or analysis whatsoever. D’Souza wrote a whole book, “The Enemy at Home,” on the topic . . . a book that sounds like an echo chamber for the late Anwar Al-Awlaki and Osama Bin Laden. Here’s a tip, Dinesh: Muslims hate us and would attack us if we were boy scouts. There was NO excuse for the 9/11 attacks. Stop blaming the victim. D’Souza’s been a revered character in the HAMAS CAIR and organized extremist Muslim realms in America ever since. D’Souza wrote several pro-Muslim posts and columns in places like Huffington Post and Town Hall (which kicked me off at the request of jihadist Grover Norquist on behalf of his convicted Islamic Jihad terrorist friend, Sami Al-Arian, and Hezbollah/Arafat/Assad fan Jihad Darrell Issa). One of those D’Souza columns, “Who Speaks for Islam?,” which he wrote in September 2008, is especially disgusting. D’Souza praises and promotes a propaganda screed by Obama Muslim policy adviser Mogahed and John Esposito, long on the take from the various Arab emirates and Islamic groups that fund his pan-Islamic, uber-dhimmi teaching, writing, and research. If there was ever a “Judas” to Western civilization, he is it. Cha-ching. Here’s what D’Souza wrote in praising their taqiyyah BS book:

This book is a huge embarrassment to some conservatives who, based on no data and very little familiarity with the Muslim world, have been portraying Muslims as violent theocrats who reject modern science, modern democracy and modern capitalism and spend most of their day performing honor killings and genital mutilations. This portrait of the Muslim world is about as accurate as that of a Muslim who believes that typical Americans live their daily lives according to the values of “Natural Born Killers” and “Brokeback Mountain.”


What can we conclude from this book? First, that the values of the cultural left are an important source in alienating Muslims worldwide. Second, that Muslims don’t reject modernity or the West: rather, they embrace what may be termed “1950s America” while rejecting the libertine values of the 1960s. Third, America can build alliances with traditional Muslims by showing them the face of traditional America, so that they see that Hollywood values aren’t necessarily American values. Finally, left-wing groups like International Planned Parenthood and Amnesty International should stop pushing feminism, gay marriage and libertine values in the Muslim world.

BARF. I wasn’t around in “1950s America,” but I’m pretty sure we didn’t go to the tallest building in Riyadh or Beirut and fly planes into it. I’m also pretty sure the majority of Americans didn’t support American terrorist groups (which never existed) which blew up innocent people at pizza parlors, coffee shops, hotels, and buses in Muslim nations, the way Muslims around the world support Islamic terrorist groups that do this in Israel. And I don’t think we supported terrorist groups that blew up Muslim embassies and sleeping Muslim marines in barracks while they slept, as the majority of D’Souza’s “1950s America” Muslim world supports Hezbollah, which did that to us and also helped Al-Qaeda blow up the Khobar Towers (full of Americans). Oh and by the way, he apparently forgot about elections in Gaza. Check out this D’Souza gem of ignorance:

Iraq is the only country in the Middle East where the Muslim population actually chose its own rulers.

Really, Dinesh? Ever hear of HAMAS? You might wanna visit Gaza City and check out the Muslim population and the rulers they chose in free elections, schmuck.

Why on earth would you elevate this Islamo-pandering schmuck and promote his movie? Are you that desperate to beat Obama that you’ll whore yourself out to anyone–ANYONE!–who will pretend to do your bidding? Only if you’re a moron, a word which sadly describes as many on the right as on the left of America’s political divide.

The biggest irony here is that the many people who claim Obama is a secret Muslim (and it’s not secret that his father was a Muslim, and therefore, according to Islamic law, he is, too), and they won’t vote for him because of it are embracing this glorified pan-Muslim propagandist who praises and promotes actual extremist Muslims, such as Ms. Mogahed.

D’Souza claims that Islamic terrorism is only a recent problem, something he claims didn’t happen–at any time during long history–before the last few decades. In a 2007 blog post at the Huffington Post (which has since been erased, but has been preserved here), D’Souza wrote:

Is Islam the Problem? My book “The Enemy at Home” says no, locating the problem in the way that liberal foreign policy and liberal values projected abroad have strengthened radical Islam and emboldened it to attack us. . . .

Islam has been around for 1300 years and the problem of Islamic terrorism is a recent one. How can Islam be to blame?

That’s a statement only a complete ignoramus or a shameless liar would make. Which is D’Souza? Regardless of the answer, he shouldn’t be a hero to conservatives. He should be persona non grata.

Connect the dots, people. You cannot–with a straight face–attack the left and the Democrats for embracing Islamic extremists and then embrace Dinesh D’Souza, who does the exact same thing and knows better.

While we don’t want Obama to remain President in 2016, we should be extremely embarrassed that Dinesh D’Souza is still taken seriously in 2012.

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Dinesh D’Souza has about as much historical understanding as Vice President Joe Biden. The Muslim world did not start hating the West after the 1960′s. In fact, this loathing of others is not even confined to the West. Ask Hindus, Buddhists, and Zoroastrians in countries conquered or demographically overcome by Islam. Whether these poor souls live in India or the Philippines, their stories are hideously familiar. Islam made some superficial changes as it moved out from the Arabian Peninsula, but its heart remained black and its thirst for blood was never quench by the blood of those who opposed it. If you do not convert or become a dhimmi, you are marked for death. Islam has been a plague to its neighbors since the sixth century A.D. It destroyed the Persian and Byzantine Empires, which were infinitely better culturally and economically than those who conquered them. Unlike the barbarian hordes in Western Europe, these conquerors adapted themselves to their conquests as little as possible. The nations and peoples that Islam conquered were only of interest in terms of war craft or practical techniques for accomplishing needed tasks. Unlike the Germans and Slavs who invaded the Western Roman Empire, there was no wonder or regret over what the Islamic hordes had destroyed. Charlemagne’s efforts to revive the Roman Empire, despite the insurmountable odds, should be contrasted with how Mohammed and his successors viewed the knowledge of those they conquered. Charlemagne learned how to read and write as an adult before such skills were deemed to be of any value by most Barbarians of his time. I contrast this regret with Islam’s denigration or falsification of all that occurred before it. No Dinesh, I have no respect for anyone who even attempts a defense of a religion is so nihilistic.

Worry01 on August 25, 2012 at 1:32 am

Here’s why I think Dinesh D’Souza misstates and misrepresents to Americans the true nature of Islam:

The problem of course is that Muslims are frauds and hypocrites. Some of the pious Muslims of course drink copious quantities of alcohol, gamble, watch porn, patronize strip joints and seek out prostitutes and live a non-lslamic lifestyle when no one’s watching. And they want us to return to a 1950s values world? Puhleeaze! Sayed Al Qutb, the Muslim Brotherhood’s forebear was in America in the 1950s and he passionately hated it.

D’Souza forgets what Islam did to his native India in which Islamic conquerors mass murdered, killed and oppressed the Hindus and converted the lowest castes to Islam by force. This is the true history of Islam and not his ahistorical retelling of it. Free elections in Gaza, Tunisia, Morocco and Egypt have brought the Muslim Brotherhood and its satellite factions to power in those Muslim countries which are now less free and well off then they where before.

Islam is an extremist philosophy embracing jihad, intolerance, anti-Semitism, hypocrisy and obscurantism. No one who is a decent person or humanist should seek to defend it. Its evil fruits speak for themselves. I tell people if they want to obtain an education on all things Islam, Dinesh D’Souza is an ignoramous and Islamic panderer who knows nothing about the subject. If people want to learn about they can turn to Ali Sina. He knows more about it and can speak with complete authority on the subject than all the ignorant frauds and poseurs on the Right do. Then of course – there IS this site – the only other one on the Internet that tells the unvarnished truth about the real Islam.

Debbie is correct this is one documentary film conservatives should boycott. And D’Souza shouldn’t be taken seriously as an authority on Islam – conservatives cannot welcome him and then attack the Left for getting into bed with Islam. We should have zero tolerance for those on the Right as well as on the Left who seek to rehabilitate a murderous terrorist creed that resulted in the mass murder of thousands of Americans – whose 11th anniversary we will soon commemorate. A film that blames Americans and their values for Muslim hatred of us and Israel deserves to languish in utter obscurity.

NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 1:39 am

    How could I disagree. :)

    Worry01 on August 25, 2012 at 2:11 am

      A great article, with insights hardly seen anywhere else.

      Indeed, Dinesh D’Souza is a faux-conservative heavily promoted by establishment Republicans who shamelessly foster Islamopandering, imitating the Leftists whom they hypocritically attack. D’Souza wrote in his 2007 book, “The Enemy At Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11″:

      “We should not dismiss the Islamic or traditional critique so easily. In fact, as our own domestic and cultural debate shows, we know that many of the concerns raised by the radical Muslims are widely-shared in our own society. Indeed, many conservative and religious Americans agree with the Islamic fundamentalists that American culture has become increasingly vulgar, trivial and disgusting.”

      [D’Souza then goes on to describe an excerpt from Eve Ensler’s “The Vagina Monologues,” as an example of what he calls America’s “grotesque violation of manners and morals.” From this example, D’Souza draws his absurd conclusion, as follows.]

      “Thus we have the first way in which the cultural left is responsible for 9/11. The left has produced a moral shift in American society that has resulted in a deluge of gross depravity and immorality. This deluge threatens to engulf our society and is imposing itself on the rest of the world. The Islamic radicals are now convinced that America represents the revival of pagan barbarism in the world, and 9/11 represents their ongoing battle with what they perceive to be the forces of Satan.”

      The “sagacious” D’Souza has thus “unlocked” the “mystery” of Islamic barbarism and can now explain away the relentless Muslim hatred, murders, and terrorism. America is to blame because of its “gross depravity and immorality.” And, in D’Souza’s mind, what better and more noble group could there be than the Muslims to lead the way to moral clarity and enlightenment?

      Is this A-hole, D’Souza a piece of crap, or what?

      Unfortunately, D’Souza is just one of these faux-conservatives that share Islamo-pandering with the Leftists. There are many, many more. Take a look at some of the speakers that the Republican establishment has selected for its convention: John McCain, John Boehner, John Sununu, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, Jeb Bush, Condaleeza Rice, and Chris Christie. Every one of these individuals has engaged in forms of Islamo-pandering, anti-Israel, or anti-Jewish speech or conduct (or some combination thereof). They might has well have invited Grover Norquist.

      When Michele Bachman, Trent Franks, Louie Gohmert, Tom Rooney, and Lynn Westmoreland spoke out against the dangers of Muslim infiltration in the government, many top name Republicans came out to attack them. Among those attacking these brave members of the US Congress were McCain, Boehner, and Rubio. Have McCain, Boehner, and Rubio attacked Obama and his administration with the same degree of intensity? Nope. When it comes to Obama and company, they behave like the limp, impotent faux-conservative weasels they really are.

      Ralph Adamo on August 25, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Norman, this approximate the quality of Dinesh D’Souza’s work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9UcKslxLo4

    The problem with Dinesh is that he purports to be serious.

    Worry01 on August 25, 2012 at 2:14 am

      Thanks for the link, Worry.
      Out of context it’s funny.
      In context it’s a cloud of the sweet aroma of sarcasm.

      Airmet Tango on August 25, 2012 at 2:18 pm

I actually did think exactly what Debbie writes above re D’Souza and this new Obama film, remembering well his comments re 9-11 and his pathetic Islamophilia. I noted conservatives gushing over this film, and it reminds me of conservatives gushing over the anti-Semite Jon Stewart (check the archives of Debbie’s blog for one) every time the latter mocks Obama. Oooh so what? That’s why I don’t care for all these ‘conservatives’ any more than I care for liberals. They all are too lazy to look beneath the surface.

Such uh conservatives are like Pavlov’s dogs, salivating to the bell. Oh look somebody makes a film tearing into Obama, let’s applaud it without knowing anything about the film, what it says and doesn’t say and who made the doccie and what his politics actually are. That would entail doing research, and you know thinking and questioning. And that’s not something people are prone to do, conservatives and liberals alike.

Zombie planet.

Larry in Tel Aviv on August 25, 2012 at 2:13 am

    Larry, I put Dinesh D’Souza in the same camp as Grover Norquist. They are both Islamic fellow-travelers. Mr. Norquist went even further by acquiring a Muslim bed buddy. I can forgive people their mistakes and inconsistencies, but pandering to Islam in light of what it has done over the years is truly beyond the pale. The person is either willfully ignorant or deliberately deceptive. Mr. D’Souza is definitely one or the other.

    Worry01 on August 25, 2012 at 2:24 am

    Group-think – the Right is as guilty of it as the Left and on both sides of the political divide, its rare to encounter an original thinker. They usually follow the herd.

    And when that happens, the quality of intellectual discourse is significantly diminished. And when you come across sounding like an uninformed idiot on a subject, then you are idiot! And people who just take whatever other people tell us as given – they’re not using the brains G-d gave us. There is a reason for skepticism and questioning the way the world works. It improves our lives and allows us to acquire new insights into the nature of things and how the universe works.

    We should follow the facts, not our biases or what our particular ideology tells us. Only then can we begin to appreciate the truth. This is not just true with Islam, its equally we true with everything we encounter in life. Then can we know how to with it intelligently in a way that will do us the most good. This is the very essence of the scientific method. We haven’t come up with any thing better to counter hoaxes, conspiracy theories, logical fallacies and all the shortcomings to which human nature is prone. The truth can indeed set us free – but only if we are willing to seek it out and accept it even in the face of all of our most cherished assumptions and the lazy conventional wisdom.

    NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 3:38 am

    You folks don’t like anybody. If the film harms Barack Obama – that is good enough for me.

    Repeat on August 29, 2012 at 4:49 pm

Dinesh D’Souza is another Jeff Jacoby, or a variant of him at any rate. In his blind obsession to defame anybody who’s on the Left, he goes to unbelievable lengths, even to the point of getting in bed w/ the Jihadis.

What D’Souza says about 1950s America is just more camel dung, if one reads about the experiences of Sayid Qutb, one of the founder figures of the Muslim Brotherhood, who was in America in the 30s. Qutb was put off by Americans of that time being in a ballroom dance. Essentially, D’Souza equates segregation of the genders w/ ‘modesty’, which is more excrement, given that he’s also anti-Gay, but the behavior that these Muslim societies indulge in actively revel in homosexual behavior, while cracking down hard on the emotional or inter-personal manifestation of it. In other words, a man having sex w/ another man or a boy is okay, but falling in love w/ him and getting intimate is actually the crime that would cause them to be thrown from tall buildings (yeah, that’s the specific Shariah punishment for homosexuality)

How long ago was this movie made? Before the Arab Spring? And if D’Souza is paying attention (which I’m sure he isn’t), he’d have noticed that Iraq too voted for Shia theocrats and is now a de facto satellite state of Iran. And if this movie was made recently enough, he’d have noticed that wherever there were elections – Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Kuwait, Islamic parties won comfortably, if not by landslides. And does D’Souza consider himself a Christian? If he does, how does he digest the treatment that Christians in all Arab countries, as well as Pakistan, Indonesia and Malaysia are getting?

I once on his blog on AOL some years ago, in response to one column of his, wrote about how, in his native India (okay, he’s not a Hindu, so I can accept that he doesn’t give a rats ass about how they were treated), more than 100 million Muslims were slaughtered over 800 years. He wrote back giving examples of 3 Moghul emperors who were supposedly tolerant (actually, even that wasn’t true), but that was just over a period of 50 years out of the 800. Essentially, in addition to being a fraud, he’s extremely pretentious as well.

He can carp about Obama all he likes, but the truth is that Obama is actually less pro-Muslim than D’Souza is. Had D’Souza been on the ballot opposite Obama, I’d have supported Obama. As Debbie has pointed out many times, there are several Conservatives who are more pro-Muslim than several Liberals, so that’s actually the wrong metric in trying to determine what’s good for America.

Infidel on August 25, 2012 at 3:27 am

Typo above: should be ‘more than 100 million Muslims Hindus, Buddhists, Jains & Sikhs were slaughtered over 800 years’

Infidel on August 25, 2012 at 3:30 am

    That aspect of Muslim attitudes towards gays is part of the irreverence Muslims exhibit toward moral rules: as long as it doesn’t bring them outward shame or disrepute, a seemingly immoral or evil behavior is tolerated.

    In Islam, righteous morality matters less than the appearance of being a good Muslim and whatever advances Islam is more important than any absolute moral code. And the precedent for this is found in the Koran itself, where Allah changes edicts as often as Mohammed changed his mind about them.

    Islam therefore rejects the view its followers are bound by universal standards of behavior. Terrorism has been integral to Islam’s success throughout history and the primacy of force needed to maintain it is basic to its existence. The Ummah does not depend on the consent of the governed and Muslims have no rights as we conceive of them in the West. The term after all, does mean “submission” – if not to will of Allah, then to the nearest cleric, the family, the tribe or whoever happens to be the Islamic strongman at a particular time.

    And without all of this, Islam would no longer be Islam.

    NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 4:09 am

Infidel,

Incidentally D’Souza makes Ali Sina’s point about knowledge better than any one else. Any one deeply knowledgeable about Islam would have too many questions to ask to want to remain Muslim.

In a way D’Souza, like the people he defends – has a shallow, superficial acquaintance with Islam and its history and he doesn’t try to ask even the right questions. I think we all know why.

It doesn’t support in the slightest at all the notion Muslims hate us because of our alleged sins. A better case can be made they hate us for our virtues, for our freedoms and for the way that we look at the world. Its our very freedoms and our rational spirit of inquiry that undermine their entire world view.

For those reasons alone, the Muslim World will always be at war with us, unless we choose become one with them and I don’t ever see that happening.

NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 3:51 am

That’s why people who only talk about moral values and what social cons they are while downplaying everything else shouldn’t be trusted. Like a guy who hates seeing dirty things on TV so much they think it justifies the global Jihad. With Bush this mode of thinking was called “compassionate conservatism”. Sure he spent like a drunken sailor because that’s not what matters! And he’s not about to stop the third world illegal alien invasion because oh! Have a heart! They’re God’s chillun’. We’ve got to show compassion and reward these lawbreakers! But ooh! Look, he’s for abstinence and wants to make an amendment against gay marriage so he must be a conservative! It’s that cheap, feelings trump logic identity politics mentality that’s responsible for so many on the right being quiet while Bush implemented his awful liberal agenda. And, hey, Jimmy Carter’s an evangelical so he must be fine! Not! This “compassionate conservatism” is also advocated by Mike Huckabee. Look, he has moral values! He’s a social con…but not much of a fiscal con if you’d notice. And without much regard for the rule of law God set up. He’ll release a convicted murderer who’d go on to kill more and be so soft on illegals he blatantly praises Obama’s unconstitutional amnesty…In both cases, just have a heart!
There’s nothing wrong with being a Christian. Nothing at ALL. It’s simply the single-issue, don’t care about other stuff, “I know his heart” evangelicals that care more about stopping condoms or stopping people from enjoying a movie than far more important things (note: abortion really is one of the most important issues, it’s killing a baby) who would fall for a Bush that are rubeish. I know the Rockefeller stereotype is supposed to be non-religious, but just because you mention God doesn’t mean you’re not a RINO. The Tea Party started because of Bush, so they should get that.
I have no problem with evangelicals if they realize there ARE other issues too and are capable of articulating them and thus be considered “heartless” by the former group. Michele Bachmann, Steve King, and Phyllis Schlafly are some of the best statesmen of our time.
There’s just too many “compassionate conservatives” out there. They’re fiscal liberals, love amnesty, and won’t say anything bad about Islam. Simply being prudish doesn’t make you a conservative. Telling the truth about Islam, libs, RINOs, the invasion, and issues affecting the country across the board like DS does does!

Joey on August 25, 2012 at 4:20 am

Norman, I’m not sure we won’t become one with them if we keep on with Sharia in the Courts and a President with Muslim Brotherhood connections who panders to the Jihad whenever they can.

Joey on August 25, 2012 at 4:25 am

Joey, as long we’re not hypocrites about we’ll be fine.

We cannot say Obama and the Left are wrong to embrace Islam, the Muslim Brotherhood and Sharia when we gush and drool over those who do the same thing on our side and as Debbie wrote, who should know better.

The issue of being aware of and resisting evil is something that should be universal – it should be no respecter of ideological divides, philosophies, race, sex and age. Islam is the antithesis of everything the West is about and it shouldn’t be excused, justified or defended because pure and simple its our enemy.

NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 4:33 am

I don’t know what movie you all say (oh wait you DIDN’T see it) – but there is no gushing over Islam in this movie. The whole point of the movie is that Obama is GUSHING over redistribution of United States wealth to third world countries INCLUDING ESPECIALLY MUSLIM COUNTRIES in order to punish America’s colonial past. That’s it, that’s the movie.

Don’t put words in the movie maker’s mouth.

JamesL on August 25, 2012 at 7:55 am

    Debbie still says that if we legitimize and give money to someone who whitewashes Islam we’re not better than the other side that does the same thing.

    Are we that desperate to beat Obama that we’ll ally ourselves with any one simply because he might be anti-Obama, too?

    Sure, I don’t want him to still be President in 2016 but D’Souza doesn’t deserve to be embraced by conservatives because he doesn’t get it on the signature issue that will define our lives for the rest of this century.

    And her point is still a valid one regardless of the particular merits or lack of them – of this particular movie she chose not to review for us.

    NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 2:05 pm

That aspect of Muslim attitudes towards gays is part of the irreverence Muslims exhibit toward moral rules: as long as it doesn’t bring them outward shame or disrepute, a seemingly immoral or evil behavior is tolerated.

Norman

That’s exactly right. What they define as morality is really the perception of what’s moral or not. Also, Islamic morality is a one dimensional metric that one can plot on a line: anything that furthers the cause/image of Islam is morally good, and anything that sets back the cause/image of Islam is what’s evil.

You are right that D’Souza makes Sina’s case pretty well. The issue here, as Debbie pointed out, is that in his blind quest to see the Democrats removed from power, he’s willing to ally w/ ANYBODY who seems to make his case stronger, even if it had been Nazis. Hence his willingness to use Islamic ‘morality’ as a metric w/ which to measure the cultural decay of the West. But equating what one sees on movies such as ‘Hit & Run’ w/ life in the US in general would be like watching a Bollywood movie and assuming that that’s how people in that region typically live.

Muslims don’t hate us either due to our sins or virtues – they hate us b’cos we’re not Muslims. If we were even MINOs but doing everything we otherwise do, they’d be AOK w/ it. Essentially, they have a single yardstick for what’s good or bad, and as long as that’s satisfied, that’s ALL that matters.

The truth is that Islam is incompatible w/ everything that is not Islam – not just other religions, but also w/ concepts like Democracy, Freedom of Expression, Pluralism, Capitalism, Commuism, Socialism, and just about everything else there is. As a result, during the Cold War, as a result of its incompatibility w/ Communism, too many in the West made the mistake of assuming that they were compatible w/ Democracy, Capitalism and so on. But the Saudis, for instance, were as virulently anti-Israel as they are today – nothing’s changed. But too many in the West assumed otherwise b’cos they were only studying how Muslims got along w/ Communists, not how they were left to their own devices.

Your last statement is bang on – the Muslims will always be @ war with us, unless we decide to be one w/ them. And even after, in the unlikely event that it did happen.

Infidel on August 25, 2012 at 10:00 am

    I don’t agree with you because like Debbie wrote we were boy scouts and completely angelic in our behavior – they’d have more and not less reason to hate us because it would also show up Islam as being less than “perfect” and that is something they can’t have as well. These frauds and their apologists take an instrumental view of morality and they can behave as I noted at the outset of the thread any damn well way that suits them but we have to censor who we are so we don’t “offend” them. That’s why our troops can’t get Playboy in Afghanistan because we’re more concerned about what a bunch of amoral hypocrites might think of us than we’re worried about protecting their freedom to read whatever they want. Here’s a more significant part of the picture that comes into view beyond their hating our virtues and our freedoms. What Muslims can’t stand is that we have principles – we don’t always honor them perfectly to be sure but we do have them and they don’t and they wish we were like them so they can continue fooling the world into thinking they are more supremely virtuous people compared to us. Debbie is right – stop blaming the victim and we don’t deserve to be on the receiving of their attacks on us, no matter how we live. And how we live is none of their damned business.

    That’s what sets a free society apart from a totalitarian one. And the last thing on earth we should ever be doing is apologizing to them for being who we are and our decency and good nature requires no explanation and needs no defense before any one.

    NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 1:36 pm

Would that Muslims would embrace 1950s values – at that time, Muslims didn’t wear concealing clothes and veils – they dressed just like that average American woman.

I know, my near neighbor was a Muslim. Although she dressed just the same, she WAS confined to the house unless her husband was with her (she cheated a little, standing on the steps to talk to the local ladies).

LindaF on August 25, 2012 at 10:01 am

Joey, a ‘compassionate conservative’ is just a code word for someone who’s a taxing conservative, spending liberal, pro-life conservative, pro medicare/medicaid liberal… You get the idea.

JamesL

The movie itself may be about all that, but Debbie was talking about D’Souza’s shameful record in rationalizing, if not justifying, the 9/11 attacks and Muslim hatred for the US due to the cultural rot that he (otherwise correctly) blames on the Left. Debbie wasn’t panning the movie above – she was panning D’Souza

Infidel on August 25, 2012 at 10:05 am

    More exactly she was panning conservative hypocrisy about not sucking up to Islam.

    We can’t say they’re wrong and then put up with the Jeff Jacobys, Dinesh D’Souzas and Grover Norquists on our side who are Islam shills and should know better.

    NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 1:45 pm

I’m glad to get a different perspective on D’Souza, hadn’t
heard him say anything about Islam in any of the interviews
I’ve seen. It’s a shame that no one else has been able to
produce a decent expose of the President, and though I haven’t
seen this film I have heard from some friends that it really
has some value. Too bad very few Americans bothered to read
Obama’s books, but then why would anyone take a guy seriously
who had authored 2 autobiographies?

Daniel K on August 25, 2012 at 10:39 am

“BARF. I wasn’t around in “1950s America,” but I’m pretty sure we didn’t go to the tallest building in Riyadh or Beirut and fly planes into it.”

Well stated.

Excellent article, Debbie.

DS_ROCKS! on August 25, 2012 at 11:38 am

G-D bless you, Debbie. I thought I was the only one who remembers D’Souza’s stabbing America in the back and treating Americans like the problem instead of the solution.

Jack on August 25, 2012 at 11:41 am

I wasn’t aware that Dinesh was a borderline Al Qaeda apologist. I had wondered what happened to him, he seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth. But I agree with the Old timey Jonathan Edwards (not the new pervert one) that we’re all sinners in the hands of an angry god…none of us are perfect 100% of the time. I think we’d all be reduced to an army of one if we mandated 100% agreement 100% of the time.

adagioforstrings on August 25, 2012 at 11:45 am

Dinesh D’Souza needs to study American history if he really thinks that the muslim problem is a relatively new thing for America. Dinesh needs to STFU and pick up a history book that goes back further than the 1950s. Those muslim pukes have been attacking America and her interests since the later part of the 1700s and they havent stopped since. What a moron, I hope he chokes on a koran.

Jarhead on August 25, 2012 at 11:46 am

Dinesh D’Souza IS shilling for the Mooooooslims and he writes disingenuous books to fit HIS narrative and NOT the truth. How annoying that it is HE who is putting an anti-Obama movie out there and not someone else who will tell the truth and the WHOLE truth. Another sheep in wolf’s clothing for Islam!

He writes disingenuous books on Obam-Putin and refuses to look at salient facts and calls them crackpottery instead. You can’t call it crackpottery if there are miles and miles of evidence that proves the point he does not want to acknowledge.

DS is correct on this (how could she not be? She knows her stuff and doesn’t ignore glaring truths) and Dinesh can’t be trusted. His willingness to cover for Islam says it all. He is not candid about Islam OR Obama-Putin…and how does that help us????

Skunky on August 25, 2012 at 12:45 pm

Debbie lost me bigtime. 2016 was a brilliant movie and I can not disagree more. People go see it and then have conversations.

Caroline De Marco on August 25, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    Caroline, I hate to say this but your statement shows how much you DON’T know and how you have zero understanding of DS’ main point.

    You so-called Conservatives who just wanna love up anything you THINK is on your team are tiresome and dead weight to the cause. You’re lazy, uninformed and make our work harder.

    Re-read this post. You are NOT getting it.

    Dinesh D’Souza can’t be trusted. He may get *SOME* points right on Obama-Putin but his Islamopandering and non-acknowledgement of certain FACTS show him to be fraudulent and untrustworthy.

    C’mon people. Use your head or go be a Liberal!

    Skunky on August 25, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    I saw 2016 tonight.

    Fantastic film that EVERYONE should see..PERIOD!

    Allen on August 28, 2012 at 1:58 am

Factually, who is to be trusted? Of the many camps out there, it is as watching the wind blow across a large expanse. Seemingly, while blades of grass are blowing in one direction, in another area of the same expanse they are laying over in another direction.
If D’Souza has portrayed America as a druken two dollar streetwalker as seems to be implied, allowing her to be abused by those who would ridicule and humiliate her, then I think the larger point has been missed. It is not relevant whether either side should be considered right or wrong, and only contributes to the mix of opinion without really thinking. They both can be wrong.
Two sayings come to mind. “You don’t pet the junkyard dog.” The second is, “If you don’t want to get into a bar fight, stay out of the saloon.” Obviously in both cases, the injunction may be ignored.
There are those who under the best of circumstances will not pet the junkyard dog. Also, I am certain there are extraordinary numbers who would never go into a bar.
That being said, the law of God which is eternal, applicable to all men everywhere, is yet the standard of conduct imposed upon beings obligated to moral behavior.
This is the GD of Israel. He has been ignored before, and continues to be so today.
Any violation produces consequences. “The Lord will not hold him guiltless, who takes his name in vain.” It doesn’t matter if you live in America or any of a number of muslim countries. The same law applies to all.
But our condition seems not to be able to be moderated. We must not dismiss lightly the inherent danger islam poses to the West. At the same time, we should not consider ourselves beyond reproach. “If we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged”. It is not unlike the dichotomy Israel was faced with in the wilderness, and God’s dealing with them, rebuking them. “Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying , For my righteousness the LORD hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee.” Deu 9:4 and 9:5.
Our judges are here and more are arriving everyday. The world is aflame with islam and the empty headed denial by Americans to the threat it imposes is beyond comprehension.
We do need a change of administration. Obama must go. But, the corruption of our government must be laid to the root, the American people. It is from the people, the government springs.
This thing wont be over till it’s over.

Dad on August 25, 2012 at 1:52 pm

A friend of mines on facebook a few weeks ago asked me if 2016 was being shown around my area in New York, NY, and I said to him, that I wasn’t sure if it’s being shown in theaters in my community. He explained to me that potentially some far-left fanatic scumbags will intimidate film-goers, and I told, that’s the far left for you, not surprised.

Now to the article, DS I noticed there was something sketchy about Dinesh D’Souza so I didn’t see the film, and I’ll be honest with you Ms. Schlussel, I didn’t know that D’Souza blamed us for the 9/11/01 islamic-terrorists attacks, to me with D’Souza blaming us for the attacks, he sorta sounds like a 9/11-Truther, minus the conspiracy bullshiite by claiming, “yadda yadda the US government did 9/11, the FBI & CIA did 9/11, or the Mossad did 9/11, yadda yadda”!

And I pity just about every conservative commentator for pimping his film (even my favorite talk show host, Michael Savage, I to pity Dr. Savage for promoting D’Souza’s film and not acknowledging D’Souza being a islamo-dhimmi apologist, and blaming this country for the 9/11/01 attacks, etc.), as Norman said at the beginning of this piece, the right wing establishment is no different than the left wing establishment, nothing but group-think and group-discourse and pretty desperate to beat Obama in the election, and don’t get me wrong, I to want Obama out of office, but you have to “think” before you react to anything.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on August 25, 2012 at 1:59 pm

I have not seen 2016. Normally I would look forward to it, but given its authorship by Dinesh D’Souza, I would not patronize it. D’Souza on the Right does the dirty work of Islam. As a member of the Right he has far more credibility than most commentators. While I dislike going into people’s motives, he is a complete Conservative and embraces Islam. He does not simply ignore it as one would a third rail; he does not bother with such terms a “moderate Muslim”; he fully embraces it.It is hard to credit an otherwise intelligent person with such total ignorance.

When Lenin was asked how to handle the opposition, he replied (and I paraphrase) that the best was to handle it was to create it and control it. In the 1920′s the Soviet secret police created an entity named The Trust. It claimed to be anti-Communist. The free world believed. The Trust had two main purposes: to send out disinformation and to find out where Soviet dissidents were. The Trust told the West that the Soviet Union was not going to nationalize foreign industries, and they should just stay put. Of course eventually, when the Soviet Union was ready, they nationalized them. And, of course, the Trust just had to know where anti Soviet dissidents were hiding so much the better to work with them. When enough anti Soviet dissidents met with accidents, the West caught on. By the way, the Trust even blew up a police station in the Soviet Union, killing perfectly good Communists just to prove their bona fides.

Gloria Stewart

Gloria Stewart on August 25, 2012 at 2:19 pm

It’s amazing he’d say we need to stop pushing feminism in the Middle East. Actually feminists don’t care about what they do in Muslim countries, they just want to kill their babies here. Some people are trying to help out women there, but not those two so it’s weird he blames the left for objecting to how Muslims treat women, because they actually don’t. It’s just incredible he’d say something like that. What he said is like a parody of what liberals would think we’d say.
A ‘compassionate conservative’ is a pro-life, evangelical big spending, big government open borders liberal. Dubya was one and Huckabee’s another example of one that comes up.

Joey on August 25, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    I find that amazing coming from a conservative. Why doesn’t he think our American values shouldn’t be spread in the Muslim World? Heck, its always been the American Way to propagate our beliefs throughout the world and if we don’t do it the world will remain a jungle.

    The world has been a lot better off with us than without us and even those who hate us because our values are seeping through their societies – they need us more than we need them. G-d forbid that we should ever want to change them! I readily grant not all forms of change are good but on the whole America is a force for good in the world. In his criticism of America’s role in this regard, D’Souza is ironically enough like the people on the Left whom he rightly criticizes in that he thinks America should neither help nor harm others – a form of moral solipsism that has no place in American discourse.

    I disagree with that position. Making the world a better place is an object for which America need owe no one an apology.

    NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 4:26 pm

Thanks for the information, Debbie. I didn’t know D’Sousa was such an asshole.

RT on August 25, 2012 at 3:17 pm

OT: We lost Neil Armstrong today, who is really the last great American giant of consequence of the 20th Century, the first man to step foot on the moon.

We shall not look upon his likes again. I remember seeing the moon landing as a child and it was an extraordinary American achievement.

Its a record that will stand the test of time and as long as there are history books that record great feats of human exploration, Armstrong’s name will be in them!

He will be sadly missed, a great American hero. RIP!

NormanF on August 25, 2012 at 10:53 pm

Unlike most of the people posting on this page, I actually did watch the movie you are “reviewing.”

The movie explains Obama’s hatred of Americans (and especially whites) in terms of “anti-colonialism” and pro-Communism. It was actually somewhat effective.

It also calls Obama out for his LACK of support for Israel, though that isn’t the focus of the film.

If that’s what you call “Islamopandering,” then I guess I’m just a big pander bear. Whatever D’Souza may have written about “the 1950s” elsewhere, I see no evidence of that theory in THIS film. And having read Schlussel’s column in advance, I was looking for it.

When Schlussel writes about “rivals” such as D’Souza, Malkin, Hannity, etc., does anyone besides me think that her eyed turn green? She sounds very jealous, if you ask me.

Statusmonkey on August 26, 2012 at 2:04 am

    @Statusmonkey, let me explain some very basic things that obviously seem to elude you. D’Souza’s repulsive Islamopandering will not necessarily be evident in everything that he does. If he did that, he knows that he could lose credibility with conservatives because such continuous Islamopandering is core to Leftists. He would find Leftists congratulating him, rather than criticizing him.

    The same is true of other faux-conservatives, like McCain, Christie, or Norquist. In a way, the faux conservatives are far more dangerous than the Leftists. With the Leftists, what you see, is what you get. Leftists are highly predictible in speech and conduct. With the faux-conservataives, the speech and conduct is generally more subtle.

    To people who like to think of themselves as conservative, but who aren’t really thinking at all, when a faux-conservative periodically introduces their Islmopandering into an issue, rather than hammering it relentlessly like a Leftist, they subtly indoctrinate such individuals in their faux-conservative ways. The impact of this is that Islamopandering gains legitimacy with unthinking conservatives and those with “centrist” views, further weakening America’s resolve to fight terrorism and the enemies of civilization.

    Ralph Adamo on August 26, 2012 at 11:37 am

      @RA,

      Um, okaaay. Speaking of leftists, you sound just like one with your talk of secret codes and encrypted messages. Is your decoder ring turning blue? Are you hearing a pro-Islamic “dog whistle”?

      Maybe you should try evaluating a movie or whatever on its own merits, such as they may be. Schlussel’s main problem is that she rejects everything and anyone that she doesn’t agree with 100 percent, and then extends that animus to everyone else who associates with them – sometimes at two or three steps removed. That’s a big heap of Islamopanderers, let me tell you. Kind of raises the question of how we haven’t become a Muslim country already.

      Statusmonkey on August 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm

        @Statusmonkey, if you want to be deaf, dumb, and blind to the faux-conservative Islamopanderers or Islamoapologists, that’s your choice. But don’t pretend that they don’t exist and aren’t spreading their poisonous messages to dupes and the naive. They can be found among the highest levels of the Republican establishment and include Bush (both of them), Sununu, McCain, Boehner, Rubio, and many more.

        And no, I will not if I can help it support a movie or book, regardless of the positions they takes, if the key people behind them are Islamopologists or far Leftists. So, for example, I don’t care if David Duke manages to write one of the greatest cookbooks of all time, I am not going to buy it for me or anyone else. Get it?

        As for Debbie’s viewpoints and her take on those who may hold positions contrary to her own, one of things I most admire about her is that she seems to be a woman of strong principles–and good ones. So if you’re hoping to find a political flipflopper, you’re going to have to look somewhere else.

        Ralph Adamo on August 26, 2012 at 3:47 pm

          @RA,

          Then it sounds to me like your loyalty is to men instead of ideas – ironically enough, that makes you the IDEAL moderate McCain-Romney Republican.

          Statusmonkey on August 26, 2012 at 4:29 pm

          Ralph, you did a good job *trying* to open the eyes of the very underwhelming and soporific sh**-flinging Monkey. His posts get more inarticulate and word-salad-y with every post. There is medication for that. Until then people should just either skip his chest-thumping posts or roll their eyes and skip reading the inane rantings as I mostly do.

          His conclusions on DS are exactly the sort from someone who doesn’t know her specialty or almost ANYTHING on the subject matter. Lazy thinking and almost no knowledge of the subject at hand. It shines through as it does in all his chest-thumping posts.

          Those following the FACTS (no matter what DD says in his doco on Obama-Putin) know that DD writes disingenuous books that skip Texas-sized facts on Obama. He doesn’t want to seem “nutty” (even though the evidence is compelling and the hypothesis’ are compelling and feasible) so he just acts as if the facts don’t exist. They he tries to sully the books that DO point out factual evidence and whose authors call HIM on the carpet. It sounds all plausible…if the person has no idea of the facts DD doesn’t want to acknowledge.

          DD plays fast and loose with the facts so he can bend them to HIS narrative and that with his Islamopandering make me want to avoid ALL he does.

          So the dopes can try to say that it is all a trip in DS’ head but when away from DS’ point of view on him his way of working is dodgy and wonky and doesn’t past the stink test.

          Skunky on August 26, 2012 at 7:25 pm

          @Skuzzbucket,

          LOL, sounds like Schlussel’s self-appointed Chief of Staff (and part-time unpaid Romney 2012 press flak) is on the case.

          How very interesting that you two “eye-openers” can’t be bothered to actually SEE the movie you accuse of “Islamopandering.” Your tiny mind doesn’t look very open to me; all I see is a misspelled sign that says “GO AWWAY.”

          Tell me, Skuzz, have you scored your tickets for Ryan’s 2021 inauguration yet?

          Statusmonkey on August 26, 2012 at 8:49 pm

          Nobody slings Monkey crap more than you Spankin’ the Monkey. Keep it up. You are the best at making yourself look like a Monkey. Keep spankin’ it Junior! LMAO!

          Skunky on August 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm

being of Indian decent he should know the true horrors of islam.

islam was extremely brutal on the Indian continent and STILL is.

General P. Malaise on August 26, 2012 at 9:53 am

    @Statusmonkey, is that you Dinesh, lurking as “Statusmonkey”? Your prose evinces the same scintillating, indefeasible logic.

    Ralph Adamo on August 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm

To me, the only appeal D’Souza ever had was as a “revenge of the nerds” geek. Sort of the Right’s answer to many such figures on the Left.

The point here is to know your “heroes,” and avoid mindless hero worship.

The Right has long been plagued with dubious heroes, including William Buckley himself, who infamously was in favor of big government….just until we beat the Ruskies. Then, presumably, in his fantasy world, we could retrench.

Red Ryder on August 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm

D’Souza has written and spoken for a long time about the decline of behavior and morals in Western society. He has suggested that this decline gives Muslims a legitimate reason to despise Western society. He is not alone in this belief. Michael Savage comes to mind also.

Obviously there are several things wrong with this approach, but one of the fundamental ones is the failure to recognize that our society is based on the rule of law and on personal freedom (although of course these things have experienced somewhat of a decline in recent decades.) And of course, if you dislike a civilization’s morality you are not justified in bombing its buildings or shooting its inhabitants.

But this is what happens when conservatives do not have a rounded, comprehensive political philosophy, but just react impressionistically to events of the day. It has been a while since we have had conservatives who really understood the degeneration of our society. The early Buckley and early Irving Kristol probably came the closest, although Kristol had some strange foreign policy views.

There is no magazine today which reflects true conservatism, and the lack of clarity enables opportunists like D’Souza to call themselves conservatives, because who will know the difference?

Disgusting behavior should be attacked for its own inherent shortcomings, not because ‘it will give Muslims an opportunity to criticize us.’

Little Al on August 26, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Who will – and there are guys like Nathan Lean who cash in big shilling for Islam through the supposed scare the Right Wing is throwing into Americans through an “Islamophobia Industry.”

Which begs the question: if Islam is so benign as they depict it, why on earth would be Americans have to be brainwashed into being afraid of it?

What they won’t tell you we do a lot more pandering to Islam than we spend fighting it. And we’d be a lot more safer if we did more of the latter.

Islam IS the enemy and some people use smoke and mirrors to divert our attention from that central fact facing America today.

NormanF on August 26, 2012 at 7:53 pm

Debbie Schlussel said Norway deserved 7/22 2011. You see yourself in Dinesh D’Souza. Don’t you?

All of Islam isn’t bad. USA is allied with an Islamic country. Turkey is Islamic. If the USA have no respect for Muslims, then I wonder how long they will care to stay friends with you.

Also, can’t you just do porn Debbie? Your body compliments you so much more than your brain.

Anders on August 26, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @Anders: Wrong. Debbie wrote that she couldn’t feel sorry for those who died in the Nazi youth training camp–and understandably so. This is what she wrote:

    “[W]hile I condemn terrorism including Breivik’s actions, this is Alien v. Predator for me. I don’t feel sorry in the least for those who die while cheering on my destruction. That’s what those shot at this camp did. I shed no tears for them. I don’t give even the feakest wuck about “people” who welcome Fatah Youth murderers to toast marshmallows with them and ride in canoes while they share in their Jew-hatred.”

    “Karma is a bitch . . . especially for Jew-haters who were Fatah’s bitch. You hang out with snakes, you get bitten.”
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/40472/karma-2-norway-utoya-camp-was-also-fatah-plo-terrorist-camp/

    Ralph Adamo on August 26, 2012 at 11:21 pm

I didn’t know this sort of pro-Islamic angle of D’Souza; the only thing I knew before is that his hypothesis that the source of Obama’s ideological/political/policy-making behavior is what D’Souza refers to as “third-world anti-colonialism” is utterly bogus.

D’Souza downplays –and distracts non-leftists from– the the fact that the true root of Obama’s behavior is his hardcore-Left ideology, i.e., Marxism-Leninism, not the brutish Bolshevism strain but the “burnished” and physically non-violent Western-Marxism strand. Unfortunately there is no room here to explain those two main strains of Marxism-Leninism. The only assertion that can be made given such constraint is that if absolutely every single Marxist on Earth seeks actively the destruction of the free-enterprise system in America, every single Marxist-Leninist of the planet goes far beyond, they pursue actively the destruction of America. Please, please read the proceedings on one of the most seminal and important events of the last four years and the culmination of four years of intense research! A cornucopia of information that needs to be shared with everyone:

Cliff Kincaid’s “Vetting Obama” National Press Club Event
http://www.leninandsharia.com/

Cliff Kincaid Introduces “Vetting Obama” Conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPvupRliBrY&feature=relmfu

Paul Kengor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFOe5599OU&feature=relmfu

Dreams from My Real Father: Director Joel Gilbert at National Press Club, Washington DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOmzTLdr_m4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Joel Gilbert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN1DbXmC_P4&feature=relmfu
http://www.obamasrealfather.com

Larry Grathwohl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu5qbZDk7v0&feature=relmfu

Konstantin Preobrazhensky [Connection between Russia and Muslims]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AqMCLqTRFo&feature=relmfu

Cliff Kincaid concludes “Vetting Obama” conference: Advises people to read J.Edgar Hoover’s Masters of Deceit. Julian Assange is a Russian operative. See http://www.sorosfiles.com.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qH2_jfIJU&feature=relmfu

Then there is Trevor Loudon: The Soros Files [Parts 1-4]

Trevor, a world-famous blogger from New Zealand, is the author of Barack Obama and the Enemies Within. He is the true one that exposed both Frank Marshall Davis and Van Jones. He asserts that the survival of America hangs in the balance and that the next phase of Obama’s plan is to slash U.S. national defense spending. Trevor contributes to http://www.sorosfiles.com.

Trevor Loudon (Part 1 of 4) The Soros Files
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwwpUL57VSE&feature=relmfu

Trevor Loudon (Part 2 of 4) The Soros Files
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIE08nNX0mE&feature=relmfu

Trevor Loudon (Part 3 of 4) The Soros Files
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK4tZ0bup6o&feature=relmfu

Trevor Loudon (Part 4 of 4) The Soros Files – Soros likely works for Russia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3rDnLQOTBc&feature=relmfu

Please pass all those websites along with the URL of Debbie’s column.

Rene Guerra on August 27, 2012 at 12:42 am

DS and the rest of you who agree w/her re: D’Souza blaming America for 9/11 are academically-challenged. You should go see the movie before drawing conclusions, he is on YOUR side, and DS, although you are loyal to her, is wrong on this. Dinesh’s writing re: 9/11. Those of us who study this, know he is right. Read the book and educate yourself – quit relying on gossip blogs to do that for you.

THE ENEMY AT HOME: THE CULTURAL LEFT AND IT’S RESPONSIBILITY FOR 9/11. In this book I make a claim that will seem startling at the outset. The cultural left in this country (such people as Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, George Soros, Michael Moore, Bill Moyers, and Noam Chomsky) is responsible for causing 9/11.

The term “cultural left” does not refer to the Democratic Party. Nor does it refer to all liberals. It refers to the left wing of the Democratic Party—admittedly the most energetic group among Democrats, and the main source of the party’s ideas.

The cultural left also includes a few Republicans, notably those who adopt a left-wing stance on foreign policy and social issues. Moreover, the cultural left includes organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Organization for Women, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, Human Rights Watch, and moveon.org.

In faulting the cultural left, I am not making the absurd accusation that this group blew up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. I am saying that the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the nonprofit sector and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world.

The Muslims who carried out the 9/11 attacks were the product of this visceral rage—some of it based on legitimate concerns, some of it based on wrongful prejudice—but all of it fueled and encouraged by the cultural left. Thus without the cultural left, 9/11 would not have happened.

I realize that this is a strong charge, one that no one has made before. But it is a completely neglected aspect of the 9/11 debate, and it is critical to understanding the current debate over the war against terrorism.

Here in America, the political right routinely accuses the left of being weak in its response to Islamic terrorism. For example, conservatives often allege that the left’s desire to “understand” the roots of Islamic discontent dilutes American resolve in fighting the enemy. If this is true, then fortifying the left’s resolve becomes the obvious solution.

My argument is quite different. It is that the left is the primary reason for Islamic anti-Americanism as well as the anti-Americanism of other traditional cultures around the world. I intend to show that the left has actively fostered the intense hatred of America that has led to murderous attacks such as 9/11. If I am right, then no war against terrorism can be effectively fought using the left-wing premises that are now accepted doctrine among mainstream liberals and Democrats.

Don't Be Deceived on August 27, 2012 at 12:05 pm

Smug, creepy, ugly America hating muzzie

As Goes... on August 27, 2012 at 12:47 pm

@don’t be deceived,

At risk of offending you, that is just plain nonsense. I agree that hatreds are fueled by notions and predjudices not founded on legitimate claims, but there is a compelling reason to believe it goes far beyond anything stated by you in this post.
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked : who can know it?” Jer17:9 in the book of the Prophets of Israel.
The muslim has nothing to do with the GD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the allah of islam is a fraud as well the isea of the muslim.
The muslim anger is fueled by the obligation to be obediant to the quran and the prophet of islam.
Should you not be aware, 17 Afghans were just beheaded for attending a party featuring music and dancing, neither of which are founded in the United States. Music and dancing have been around for centuries. Do you think the children of Israel dancing around the golden calf was the first instance perhaps of an activity of the cultural left.
The quran, hadiths, and sira, all part and parcel of islam is the determining factor, the cultural left as you describe, notwithstanding.
The misinformation that is being fed to the American people is criminal. A muslim may lie to you, may say things with his lips that he disbelievs in his heart or would otherwise deny, should it advance the cause of islam.
Our judges are here, and it is islam; not to save, but destroy. The cultural left as you describe them is only part of the problem.
Really, you would have us to believe the cultural left is the cause of all the unrest around the world?
Do you remember the Barbary Wars and a certain person named Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. He was a person of considerable interest to Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson in his dealings with Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, was compelled to write in a report to the Congress of the United States, “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
John Quincy Adams sated, “The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.”
I suggest you go back and reassess your position. You will be far more effective.

Dad on August 27, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Hey, Mohammad “Dad”

    At the risk of ….. BS-ing us… GET LOST.

    MUZZIE

    As Goes... on August 27, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Bottom line is that the movie will create anti-Obama votes.
On balance, that’s not a bad thing.
Beyond that issue, it’s up to the individual to examine the motives of the person offering opinion.

To quote Michael Crichton in the Author’s Message form State of Fear, “Everybody has an agenda. Except me”.

Mike in Dallas on August 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm

I’ll have to read some of his material before making any meaningful comment. At first glance, I like what I see about him. After reading some of his works, I may change my mind, or not.

Joel-Confederate Son on August 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm

If conservatism ever built a Hall of Fame of the Overrated, Dinesh D’Souza would be a charter member. A shrill, contemptible, pampered hack, his lengthy apologia for Islam of some years back, “The Enemy at Home,” had so many knee-slappers, they could fill a whole magazine issue. Example: The smile of Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini was “gentle, avuncular, even giving the hint of a smile.” I rather harshly reviewed that book and don’t regret having done so to this day. Though D’Souza is a Catholic, his hatred of cultural freedom of all kinds is his default setting. That’s what aligns him with Islamic theocrats.

As for the new documentary movie, “2016,” it is so named because of D’Souza projection into the future. He assumes, for the sake of argument, that Obama will be re-elected in 2012, and shortly would impose a dictatorship upon this country. (I guess he’s been holding back on us so far). Orwell’s “1984,” in other words, will arrive 32 years behind schedule.

Look, I oppose Obama and plan to vote against him in November. But D’Souza’s documentary makes the conservative case against Obama seem rooted in paranoia. The movie does nothing except preach to the choir; it won’t win over any swing voters. It’s just the product of a creepy imagination and a hunger for publicity.

Seek on August 27, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Seek,

    Well stated and I would add it is about money and his ego as you stated.

    As Goes... on August 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm

Better movie coming out this week at convention.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1799193089001/the-hope–the-change/

bob on August 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm

@dad, I agree with you on the threat of Islam and so does d’souza. We know that Christians and Jews worship a different G-d than muslims, and are sad many don’t have that basic understanding. We all know the Muslims are jealous of the success of America, but as a Christian nation, we have left fundamental moralities that made us a great nation behind. Entitlements to welfare is abound. Dead are the traditions that united us and made us strong, and that is what liberal/progressives fight for, eg, to make us weak like third world countries. Watch the movie, obama’s own brother explains this.

Don't be deceived on August 27, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Hey, “Dad” and “Don’t be”

    You look foolish pretending not to be muzzies while being muzzies and pretending to argue points.

    Well, the fun is over. You’re Excused.

    As Goes... on August 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Watch:
2016 the movie – Glenn´s stunning interview with Dinesh D’Souza:
http://swordofgideon72.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/2016-the-movie-glenn%C2%B4s-stunning-interview-with-dinesh-dsouza/
And, – Glenn Beck is also a “Muslim”? … : (
Not a good report, Debbie … <

Michael on August 27, 2012 at 4:35 pm

“would impose a dictatorship upon this country.(I guess he’s been holding back on us so far).” Yeah, that’s exactly RIGHT that he’ll impose a dictatorship if elected to another term, he’s been horrible enough, with another term he will have no election to look to in the future. But he’s not a scary guy like those mean right-wingers say and it’s “paranoid” for D’Souza to point out the disaster that would be the second term of this power-mad egomaniac, right Charlie Crist, I mean Seek?

Joey on August 27, 2012 at 5:15 pm

Why must we be “paranoid” about the anti-American narcissist in chief? Why can’t we be “civil” like you, Jon Huntsman, DICK Lugar, Meghan and John McCain, and Colin Powell keep telling us to? Nothing to see here! No, nothing. There will be peace in our time!

Joey on August 27, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    It’s a common popular delusion: An incumbent president, once elected to a second term, gets down to imposing his “real,” crack-some-skulls agenda, no longer worrying about any subsequent re-election. In reality, the opposite usually happens. Reagan, Clinton and George W. Bush each proved far weaker in their second term than their first. Nixon, of course, never even got to finish his second term. And these, mind you, were cases of a convincing, if not landslide re-election victory.

    The 2012 election will be very close, maybe as close as 2000. Should Obama win — not that I want that to happen — he’s highly unlikely to pull off any kind of Napoleonic power grab. The scenario that D’Souza presents is far-fetched. Paranoid? Maybe not, but pretty damned close to it. Read up on some history.

    Seek on August 27, 2012 at 8:11 pm

@As Goes,

???

Obama is one of the most traitorous persons in America to this date. If he achieves his goal of a second term, we are in serious trouble. We are in serious trouble now. Those who worship at his alter are in both a state of exhuberance and lethargy of which it may be impossible to revive them from.
@be not deceived,
I am pleased you realize I was not desiring to provoke you. There are troubling moments in the film that require me to go review it again. The significant event was made concerning Israel, which I believe should have been rebuffed, yet Dinesh remained silent.
Before I get hammered here, I believe others know the occurrance I am referring to, those of you who have seen the film. Israel must be supported in no uncertain terms. I am less sure of the second and will not comment on it until after seeing the film the second time. It has to do with America.
In your case “As Goes,” I am already in danger of the knife and am quite unsure what your motives are. I believe in the Triune jehovah, the Protector and deliverer of Israel. I am well beyond “Kuffar,” and my belief puts me at odds with a significant population, including both Jewish persons such as Debbie Schlussel, the nation of Israel, of which GD loves, and yourself. The nation of Israel, and I am speaking of those bounded on all sides by better than 52 hostile nations, is yet to be fully redeemed.
That tomb is empty for a reason.
Your corrosive comments, “As Goes,”are unfortunate.

Dad on August 27, 2012 at 7:34 pm

Yes, I hope everyone believes the movie. Anything to get rid of his sorry ass.

Tina on August 27, 2012 at 8:04 pm

I’m still trying to figure out how it is possible to criticize a movie without ever having seen it.

I saw it a couple of days ago, and it makes some compelling arguments about how Obama’s world view has been shaped by those who were close to him and have influenced him. It makes a case that we may be judged by the company we keep.

From his mother’s decidedly leftist views, to his grandfather picking an avowed marxist as a mentor for him, to associations in college with extreme leftists and communists, to Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and others.

The movie evaluates his writings and how even with a father who abandoned him, he adopted anti-colonialist views that were shaped through “dreams from his father”, and his time in Indonesia following the end of Dutch Colonial rule.

It makes a case that Obama believes that America is the problem in the world and that he seeks to redistribute the wealth of America to those nations who historically have been plundered because of colonialism.

I don’t actually agree with the conclusions of the film, but it is thought provoking and does make a good case that Obama has been influenced by those with whom he has sought to associate himself.

It didn’t take an invite to the screening, nor a free screener – I paid $9.00 out of my pocket to see it.

Nigel Brooks (my real name) on August 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm

WHERE did Dinesh D’souza say that “America deserved 9/11″?
I don’t see a source for that, so clearly Debbie Schussel is casting aspersions she doesn’t document.

Chris Miller on September 8, 2012 at 10:37 pm

I think someone is using Islam to get them to do what they want and saying it is their God. Like in the Bible, many stories/incidences/parables are lessons on what you should NOT do according to God. They are killing for someone who has money to say it is what they believe in while someone sits back and watches, reeping the rewards. It will be too late when they figure out what they have done to their religion.

adrienc5 on November 20, 2012 at 11:44 pm

He’s a creep.

Pray Hard on March 11, 2014 at 7:16 pm

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