August 27, 2012, - 5:25 pm

Obama Sending F-16s to Iran-Backed, Anti-Israel Iraq; Will Romney Reverse? Don’t Bet On It

By Debbie Schlussel

Last week, news leaked that the Obama administration secretly committed to send F-16s to Iran-backed, anti-Israel Iraq in two years. Those planes can be used not only to fire on Israel, but also to provide cover for any other country’s attempted attack on Iran, whether it is Iran’s nuclear weapons or any other target. Not only could the planes end up in Iranian hands, they could end up in Hezbollah’s hands. That’s not a stretch–it’s a likelihood.

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Why are we doing this? Well, you can’t blame it only on Obama because, after all, it was President Bush who made the decision to waste thousands of American lives for the “noble” mission of handing over Iraq to Iran-backed Shi’ites and then call this new Iraq our “ally.” This is the next logical step. And it’s not logical at all, unfortunately. Nor was the whole free elections for Hezbollah Shi’ites in Iraq. When Iraq becomes part of the greater Iranian Shi’ite empire–and it basically already is–we will regret sending anything, including paper clips to Iraq, let alone F-16s. The news of the planes came on the heels of news that Iraq is helping Iran evade sanctions by sending goods through the Iraq-Iran border and bringing oil out of Iran through Iraq for later sale. As you read this, ask yourself if a President Romney will reverse this horrible decision. I doubt it.

The first batch of F-16 fighter jets bought by Iraq are due to be delivered in two years, U.S. officials said Tuesday as the top American military officer was on a visit to Baghdad.


Washington agreed last year to sell 36 F-16 jets to Baghdad in a multi-billion-dollar deal aimed at increasing the capabilities of Iraq’s fledgling air force, a weak point in its national defenses.

The first batch of those F-16s is due to be handed over to Iraq in September 2014, U.S. officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

They said that thus far, the U.S. had agreed to deals worth $12 billion with Iraq, covering arms sales and training. Iraq had also expressed interest in buying radar and air defense systems, they said.

The article talks about the air defenses being the weak point for Iraq. Um, exactly which country does Iraq need F16s to defend against (or go on the offense against)? Israel. And Israel only. No Muslim nation in the area (even rival Sunnis, who are supposed to be our allies, also) is going to bomb the place.

As I noted, Romney cannot be relied upon to nix this deal. He is like Bush on the silly “Islamic democracy”/”Arab Spring” BS. Only Congress can put the kibosh on it. And that’s a big if. It won’t happen. The delivery of these planes will go through, since few in Congress will admit that the fantasy of Muslim democracy is a failure. They’d rather be politically correct and not risk embarrassment, by sending these weaponized planes to use against Israel (and perhaps America).

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When will Chabad open a Shul in Iraq?
Israel already has boots on the ground.

Colonel Biteme on August 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm

The question really is, would Romney have done the same? Probably not.

Iraqi pilots using avionics that are not state-of-the-art are not a threat to Israel. BTW, Schlussel, Israel stood its ground and the F-35 will indeed get Israeli avionics packages for Israel. None of the crappy American-made avionics. Pretty sweet, eh?

FK: Wow, you really aren’t paying attention. Romney supports continuing treating Iraq as an ally and supports Bush Arab Spring. He would definitely send the planes and WON’T reverse if he wins in November. Count on it. And stop fantasizing of a Romney you wish he was instead of the Romney that he is. DS

FrenchKiss on August 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    No muzzie is EVER AN ALLY NEVER HAPPEN.

    Why risk Israel?

    As Goes... on August 27, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    FK, Romney, if he becomes POTUS, will likely sell them even more but not to worry. There isn’t going to be an Iran or Iraq in 2 years. We’ll have to deal with it one way or the other long before that. I’m guessing within the next 4-5 mos. They will either attack us or we will finally get the nerve to preemptively hit them. The War of Gog u’ Magog is upon us. WAKE UP!

    Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 2:37 am

Well, one can always hope that the Syrian Civil War will continue indefinitely longer, sucking in both Hizbullah, Badr Brigades & Basij militias from Lebanon, Iraq & Iran, while Sunnis worldwide pour to support the other side.

So far, quite a number of things have been happening in Syria, like Pakistanis w/ British citizenship have been landing up there to support the Sunni side of that war. Similarly, other Sunnis too have been turning up. If only Hizbullah is forced to send everybody to Syria – after all, if Syria falls, not only is Hizbullah’s supply from Iran cut off, but also, a Sunni regime in Damascus will want to restore Sunni hegemony in Lebanon. So if the Sunnis win in Syria, it’s potentially the end of Hizbullah, which is good, but then again, there will be the Ikhwan in Damascus, which is ugly.

So yeah, let’s hope that someone – maybe the Saudis – arm the other side to the teeth, so that this jihad continues for say, the next 10 years. Let Syria suck up as many Jihadis worldwide as it can, from both sides.

Infidel on August 27, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Infidel,

    We can only hope Syria disintegrates like the Soviet Union, into a number of weak and perpetually feuding statelets – who will be too busy warring on each other to take on Israel.

    That would be the best outcome if Assad should fall.

    NormanF on August 27, 2012 at 6:17 pm

      Are you nuts, Norman? Hezbolla is already conducting exercises to practice taking over the Galilee and Syrian rebel forces are fighting in Lebanon. As disgusting as Assad is, these guys are NOT better for Israel and there isn’t going to be a Sunni government. WAKE UP! Isaiah 18 prophesies that Damascus, the oldest continually inhabited city in the World, will fall, never to be rebuilt. I think we’re there. Meanwhile we’re using up resources swatting at the gnats in Gaza.

      Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 2:50 am

        Italkit,

        You think the feuding factions in Syria want to live in one county? Every totalitarian dictatorship that shattered saw the country divided. And I maintain a series of small statelets that are perpetually hostile to each other will be too busy fighting each other to take on Israel. I prefer it over a strengthened Assad regime.

        In talking about preserving Assad, you are talking preserving the alliance with Iran and Hezbollah! The Ihkwan might take over Damascus but not anywhere else in Syria which unlike Egypt is mostly minorities. The Sunni Arabs might unite with their co-religionists in Iraq and we can see the artificial states created by the French and British gone. They never had a genuine history behind them.

        NormanF on August 29, 2012 at 5:55 am

    This is NOT a “civil war” in Syria. WAKE UP! This is the beginning of World War 3, the War of Gog u’Magog.

    Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 2:51 am

Unbelievable: Obama sending F-16s to a muslim country which will ultimately use them to murder Israelis.

DS_ROCKS! on August 27, 2012 at 5:56 pm

Iraq has been sliding into Iran’s orbit for quite some time. This country has also been increasingly hostile to to U.S. interests. I suspect that some of these F-16 fighters will be transferred to the Iranian inventory or at least come under Iranian control. Also, furnishing Iraq with enhanced air defense capabilities would be insane at this point. This equipment would not be terribly problematic for the United States, but it would be for Israel. Israel does not have the in depth capabilities that the United States has.

Worry01 on August 27, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Iraq was formed by British Petroleum in the 1920′s from a PROVINCE of Iran. While the Sunni and Sh’ia appear to the West to hate each other, there are more ties of blood, culture and even religion and enmity towards the west that there is hatred of each other.

    Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 9:43 am

      The Sunni Arabs under the Ba’ath were the “pure” Arabs and they put down the Shi’ites and the Kurds with extreme ruthlessness in Iraq.

      When the Americans ousted them, they found themselves resenting their new-found minority status. If they can’t regain power in Baghdad, they will probably join with the Sunni Arabs across the border in Syria a repressed majority there.

      The Kurds are already well on the way to independence and I see the Turks off-loading their troubled south eastern provinces to them which have been more trouble to police than they are worth. They can have a Kurdish army maintain order which is a lot easier to do than occupying them.

      The century of Arab nationalism is dead. The break up of Syria and Iraq was a long time in coming but its really the fact none of the peoples shoehorned into an unnatural colonial entity felt the slightest loyalty to it.

      All in all, the news on Israel’s eastern front looks better than it has been in a long time and Iran is not happy with the emerging developments that are reshaping the face of the Middle East.

      NormanF on August 29, 2012 at 6:06 am

I’m not really too worried about Iraq – there is a good chance it will break up as well.

We should keep a watch on Iran – its the chief danger at this point and there is plenty Israel can do to neutralize any conceivable threat from Iraq in the future.

NormanF on August 27, 2012 at 6:21 pm

Obama has no regard for life… He is a perfect muzzie. He hates the US and Israel.

Two MORE murders in Afghanistan by “our allies” the muzzies…

“(From Lee Rodgers) The only rational policy is to get past this insanity, admit the war there is a stupid failure and get the hell OUT!

There’s no American national will to win or continue this insanity …

we have no real mission or purpose; it’s all a ***pointless bloodletting of our own troops.***”

Obama reminds me of Kissinger in that he favors “letting them bleed”.

As Goes... on August 27, 2012 at 6:31 pm

Yup.

And we’re punishing our soldiers to make Islamic barbarians who are killing like us!

That has sure won them over didn’t it? In Obama’s dreams.

NormanF on August 27, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    This is what we are dealing with: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19388869

    Worry01 on August 27, 2012 at 6:54 pm

      Worry,

      Yup – they kill Muslims who attended mixed social parties and they kill our troops as icing on the cake!

      As the execrable Dr. Phil might say, “Howzzat Afghanistan workin’ out for ya?”

      It makes no sense to leave our troops there to bleed to death if we have no intention of defeating our enemy.

      They are barbarians and seeking to civilize them is a complete waste of time! Time to bring our boys home.

      NormanF on August 27, 2012 at 7:09 pm

      I had a chance to read it and thankfully, the soldiers and officers involved in the Koran burning/Taliban corpses urination cases are not going to be court-martialed!

      Its still disgusting that we lower ourselves to make Islamic barbarians like us.

      They would actually respect us more had we given the accused troops promotions! This is not going to make a single Muslim hate us any less and its not going to save US troops’ lives in Afghanistan in the future.

      NormanF on August 28, 2012 at 1:28 am

NF: I’ve removed the letter you posted from the Israeli soldier to Aly Raisman b/c that soldier, like many other individuals who did NOT do their homework, based his letter on the completely BS story that she allegedly used Hava Nagila to remember the Israeli athletes massacred at Munich. But as you know from reading this site, I previously posted her comments to the New York Post, in which she said the song was just a coincidence and she did NOT pick it to remember the Israeli athletes. As I said then (and you read and commented on the post), her only comments about the Israeli athletes were when a NY Post reporter put her on the spot and asked her if she’d support a memorial if one were held. She answered yes. That hardly merits the BS letter from the Israeli soldier who clearly doesn’t know that she actually said and did very little. Clearly, that soldier got caught up in an urban legend and has now furthered that legend with his written gushing over something that just didn’t happen. In addition, that is NOT the topic of this post or even related. DS

NormanF on August 27, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Norman, Great post.

    Neils60 on August 27, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    It sounds like wishful thinking on the part of that officer and his fellow soldiers on that base. They should have done their homework and you were right, it didn’t happen. Apart from his gushing over Raisman, which I don’t approve of, I still thought the letter was very much on topic in way that many Israelis share – their feeling of being alone in the world, they have to face the burden of defending Israel alone and there is precious little for Jews to celebrate these days when all the news (like the Obama sale of F-16s to Iraq) is depressing! I can’t say I care for his distortion of the facts and furthering an urban legend doesn’t serve Israel in the long run – but I can see what would drive him to write the letter in the first place. The sentiments of one’s heart can overwhelm reason and while my heart is with him and the people of Israel – my head tells me you are justified to remove his letter that I posted and its your site!

    NormanF on August 28, 2012 at 12:54 am

Well we know the Republicans and Democrats want to make our country more and more like Europe, and gain acceptance from the international community.

Since Europe and the international community are both strongly anti-semitic, this sale is consistent with the politicians’ objectives.

Little Al on August 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm

Not to worry Debbie. Sending aeroplanes to Iraq is like building a fancy school in downtown Detroit. The Israelis/suburban kids will not be challenged. Anyway we’ll probably screw with the planes so we can neutralize them, etc. The Arab countries have shitty indigenous IT and will only fall further behind, B’H.

A1 on August 28, 2012 at 12:55 am

    Two years is a long time.

    I hope Israel decides to act against Iran a lot sooner.

    Maybe this is a blessing in disguise – in that Israel is given a kick in the pants.

    No, its not Obama’s intention but if Israelis are paying attention, they will stop twiddling their thumbs and take care of the threat from Iran while they are still in a position to do so.

    Even a bad cloud has a silver lining.

    NormanF on August 28, 2012 at 1:07 am

      AS I SAID, Norman, (RIF) we will be forced into action in less than 2 years. I used that since it is the delivery time line for the planes. But I have to wonder about anyone who sees the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews as any sort of blessing, disguised or not. What a horrible and goyish thing to say.

      Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 9:46 am

        I’m saying Israel doing what it must to survive is a blessing!

        No one wants war and I didn’t write anywhere the deaths of thousands of Jews is a good thing.

        When everything is weighed though the destruction of the State Of Israel would mean the end of Jewish life and that’s completely unthinkable to any decent person.

        Its not a horrible thing to wish well for the Jewish people and Israel. When the time comes you will see that I was right – that this was the only path open to Israel.

        Israel has tried everything to avert war but in the end sometimes in life there is no choice. History has warned us of what can happen if tyrants are not stopped in time.

        NormanF on August 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    A1, you ever hear anything about the perils of underestimating your enemy?

    Rik on August 28, 2012 at 4:00 am

That’s part of it.

I’m not expecting a President Romney to reverse the sale. I just wrote about wishful thing and we wish people like we want to be.

That’s not true of Mitt Happens and its not true of Aly Raisman.

We have to go by the facts and the facts say the US has interests in the Middle East beside Israel. All Debbie can do is educate people who read the site and hopefully it might get Romney to reconsider but I’m not counting on it.

All one can hope for is the truth wins out in the end.

NormanF on August 28, 2012 at 1:01 am

Italkit, what’s going on in Syria is very much a civil war. Both sides are ugly for Israel, so as Norman said, the best thing would be if they had their hands full fighting each other in Syria, and if necessary, Lebanon as well.

Norman, I think a better analogy would be post Soviet Afghanistan, where you had a civil war that totally tore that country apart. I’m hoping that the same happens in Syria, but w/ Jihadis from everywhere pouring in to support their sides. Normally, Sunnis would have an advantage, simply b’cos 90% of Muslims are Sunni, so I’d hope that the Russians and Chinese back the regime, so that Syria becomes a black hole for as many Sunni Jihadis from around the world as possible.

If you recall, a couple of years back, Somalis from MN would regularly make headlines for joining the Jihad in Somalia and ending up dead, and their bodies being brought back to the US. Now, similar thing is happening w/ Britain – Pakistanis turning up in Syria and fighting the Assad regime. Just hope that Syria is a big enough sink to suck up all Jihadi fighters from everywhere.

As they say, Alhadimdullah (or whatever that word is – I ain’t as good as Debbie is on this one)

Infidel on August 28, 2012 at 3:58 am

    You totally misunderstand the situation Infidel. This is bad for Israel and the region either way. It’s the prelude to WW3. They are not going to wipe each other out and furthermore, Russia is on our border or rather, just outside our territorial waters. Stop thinking like Americans and start understanding the mentality we’re dealing with.

    Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 9:52 am

      Italkit, should we think like Israelis instead? If so, we’d be collecting taxes for Hezbollah.

      skzion on August 28, 2012 at 12:57 pm

        sk, definitely not! That’s what got us into the mess and still waiting for Geula. We need to start thinking like Arabs. Not acting like them but THINKING like them so we understand how to deal with them. They wouldn’t have given back the Temple Mount and they would have annexed the “west bank” in 1967 so fast you wouldn’t have even been able to say Shimon Peres.

        Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm

you just love making up bullshit dont you

debbie is a loonie on August 28, 2012 at 4:49 am

Deb:

While the sale of U.S. made F-16′s is a cause for concern, a lot depends on the particular F-16 package being sold. A bare F-16 without all the upgrades (Israel has made 600 improvements to the F-16) isn’t necessarily a threat to Israel. Please keep us updated on the specific package being sold as additional news comes out.

I think your real thesis is the TREND for U.S. policy toward Iraq. We have the best government petro-dollars can buy and I agree with your thesis that Romney will not pursue a policy that is significantly different than O’Bama’s.

Campaign promises are not binding contracts. That being said, I’m certainly willing to be pleasantly surprised by a President Romney. I’m certainly not going to support President O’Bama’s re-election.

Hey! Have you had a chance to comment on the Hoekstra vs. Stabenow Senate race fast-approaching? Curious your thoughts on that one.

In addition, allow me to remind you that former Judge, Steve Pestka will be challenging incumbent Justin Amash in Michigan’s 3rd Congressional District.

We have some exciting local and statewide elections to follow this year. I hope you’ll comment on them and give us a “guide” as to who you like and why.

Regards,

There is NO Santa Claus (aka TINSC)

There is NO Santa Claus on August 28, 2012 at 8:05 am

    I would not assume that the F-16′s being sold were too stripped down. The Chinese or Russians would have been more than happy to fill such an order without the pesky restrictions. In light of those facts, I suspect that the F-16′s on order are not a negligible threat to Israel. Finally, U.S. defense budgets are declining, so our government might be less scrupulous than usual in allowing its contractors to pursue overseas markets.

    Worry01 on August 28, 2012 at 9:23 am

Reagan sold AWAC and a lot worse to the true evil empire Saudi. Who destroyed the US economy with the OPEC cartel.

madman on August 28, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Do you know what AWACS were?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_early_warning_and_control

    It is not an offensive weapon.

    Worry01 on August 28, 2012 at 9:43 am

      No, they just use them for nice aerial photography to use in National Geographic. Do you know what a coordinated military OFFENSIVE is?

      Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm

      I disagree. The E3 AWACS was a crucial air superiority weapaons platform and semantics doesn’t change that.

      So crucial to air superiority, the US Government held up the sale of an IMPROVED Israeli version of the platform to China even thought the Pentagon had given permission for the sale.

      The E-3 AWACS sale to Saudi Arabia showed once and for all “who’s boss” in Washington. Since then, no Saudi request for the sale of U.S. armaments has been refused.

      There is NO Santa Claus on August 28, 2012 at 9:18 pm

While I too would oppose this sale to Iraq, F-16s have already been sold to Muslim countries, including one of immediate concern to Israel: Egypt. Some reports suggest the aircraft Egypt sent into Sinai, violating the Egypt-Israel treaty, were F-16s, but that’s not been confirmed. What’s not doubted is that the tanks and surface-to-air missiles Egypt has moved into Sinai without authorization are US-made. And top-line Abrams tanks are being manufactured in Egypt under license.

Even the fools at Foggy Bottom understand that SAMs are of no value against criminal Bedouin gangs and Gaza terrorists in Sinai who have no air force. The only nearby entity that does have aircraft is … Israel.

Raymond in DC on August 28, 2012 at 10:07 am

Italkit, how is Russia just outside your borders or terretorial waters? Their only reason for supporting Syria is that that’s their lone customer (aside from Iran) left standing, since Libya is gone.

Russia is right now busy w/ their own Muslim problems, be it Chechnya, Tatarstan, and in the central Asian countries, Jihadis are getting more aggressive, like in Kyrgyzstan. So their interests in their remaining Islamic partners are more mercenary than an actual desire to wipe out Israel.

Jihadis from elsewhere converging on Syria would prevent, rather than start, a WWIII.

Infidel on August 28, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Infidel, Their navy is off the Syrian coast. less than 100Km north of Nahariya. If Syria is their only client, they can pour ALL their resources into helping them. All these years of reading and commenting on DS and she who shall not be named, and you still don’t get how Islam works. Oy Vey! With friends like this…
    The only reason for Jihadis to converge on Syria is to finish off the “distraction” and march South. You do know we share a fairly large border with them in the Golan Heights and with their vassal state, Lebanon, along our entire North. Did you not read that I wrote that Hez’Bulla is conduction practice drills to march into the Galilee?
    Whose side are you really on?

    Italkit on August 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm

“IT’S NOT PERSONAL, SONNY, IT’S BUSINESS.” AND ON BEHALF OF BOEING, RAYTHEON, LOCKHEED-MARTIN, NORTHRUP-GRUMMAN, PRATT & WHITNEY, GE, GOODRICH SYSTEMS, ITT DEFENSE, SYMETRICS, some other little guys, THANK YOU, AMERCIA. KEEP THOSE CONTRACTS COMING. AS LONG AS THERE IS KILLING TO BE DONE THERE WILL BE JOBS FOR AMERCIANS. PATRIOTIC JOBS, BY THE WAY.

sam enderby on August 28, 2012 at 11:06 am

DS said: Wow, you really aren’t paying attention. Romney supports continuing treating Iraq as an ally and supports Bush Arab Spring. He would definitely send the planes and WON’T reverse if he wins in November. Count on it. And stop fantasizing of a Romney you wish he was instead of the Romney that he is. DS

Treating Iraq as an ally has no relevance to selling them planes. And your continued speculation on what Romney would do is not grounded in reality.

FK: Not speculation. Mitt Romney has said as much. Facts are stubborn things. Try to face them. DS

FrenchKiss on August 28, 2012 at 11:17 am

US Sends Muslim Brotherhood’s Morsi 20 F-16 Warplanes so they will be well equipped to attack Israel…otherwise, who else do they want to eliminate. As president of Rabbis for Romney, I WARNED YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

Thanks, in large part to liberal Jews and Rabbis , this is what America gets. A President arming the Muslim Brotherhood with the latest weapons. And who, exactly are those weapons to be used against, Saudi Arabia? Qatar? Dubai? I don’t think so. RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG

Rabbi: Romney would have done the same thing. He supported the Muslim Brotherhood and he and Paul Ryan criticized Obama for not dumping Mubarak sooner. Your warning was irrelevant, since you didn’t, as Rabbis for Romney, get Mitt Romney to take a different position from Obama on this. DS

ROSENBERG on December 11, 2012 at 12:21 pm

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