September 12, 2012, - 5:04 pm

“Sam Bacile,” Agent Provocateur: “Anti-Muslim” Movie is Fake, Conspiracy; Excuse, Provocation for Usual Muslim Attacks, Anti-Semitism; Fake “Israeli Jew”

By Debbie Schlussel

Earlier today, I told you that I suspected that man behind the movie used as an excuse for Muslim violence and murder against Americans in Libya and Egypt was a fake and an agent provocateur. And now there is more and more evidence that I was right. This alleged “Israeli Jew”–who at the same time is also allegedly a “Coptic Christian”–was a fake, a liar, and probably a plant designed to spur some predictable Muslim violence against America (violence that happens on the part of Muslims every single day without an alleged fake movie plot). And, along with that, I felt the plot was meant to spur anti-Semitism and discredit those of us with legitimate concerns about the Islamic threat. And that appears to be exactly what is going on here. The question is, who is really behind this movie? I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but as I said earlier today, I wouldn’t be surprised if Muslim money was behind this to discredit Americans, Jews, and Christians in one fell swoop or to unite people against Jews or those who expose the real Islamic threat to America. Could it be Iran? Ya never know. I mean, this is happening just as all of the Iran chatter was coming to a boil. And, don’t forget, Iran’s plot to murder the Saudi Ambassador and other officials at a Washington restaurant. I don’t put anything past the Iranian Revolutionary Guard or any other Muslim group.



Mystery: Who is “Sam Bacile”? Who Funded This Agent Provocateur?


Scene from the “Innocence of Muslims” Trailer by Imposter “Israeli Jew””Sam Bacile”

This morning, a well-known investigative reporter for a major national news media outlet called me to ask if I know of Sam Bacile or if any of my friends in the pro-Israel or Jewish communities know of him. He’s the guy the Wall Street Journal claims made the movie. The Journal claimed it talked to Bacile, that he’s an Israeli, and that 100 Jews bankrolled his “The Innocence of Muslims” flick, to the tune of $5 million. I speak Hebrew, have lots of Israeli family, and my first impression was that Bacile is not an Israeli last name and that only a moron–or, more likely, a Jew-hater seeking to incite anti-Semitism–would say, “Hey, 100 Jews just gave me $5 mill to attack Islam.” (And what he really meant was, “Hey, two American Embassies were attacked by Muslims and four Americans were murdered. And, oh, did I mention that 100 American Jews paid for that?) Also, I’d seen the trailer, and as a movie critic, I can tell you that I’ve seen several movies made for less than $100,000, all of which looked far better. There was no way this was a $5 million flick. I told the big-name reporter that I felt the whole thing was some sort of conspiracy by plants because, as I told him, Terry Jones is connected with it, and the guy can’t articulate the most basic problems or negatives with Islam. And I know he’s a fake and a con artist.

And now it looks like the whole story is collapsing and the scam is exactly as I thought. I despise Jeffrey Goldberg of the far-left Atlantic. Both he and his mag have repeatedly attacked me for getting things right, including on Lara Logan’s rape at the hands of her favorite Muslim “democrats.” But here’s what he reports, which shows my instincts were spot on:

As part of my search for more information about Sam Bacile, the alleged producer of the now-infamous anti-Muhammad film trailer “The Innocence of Muslims,” I just called a man named Steve Klein — a self-described militant Christian activist in Riverside, California (whose actual business, he said, is in selling “hard-to-place home insurance”), who has been described in multiple media accounts as a consultant to the film.


Klein told me that Bacile, the producer of the film, is not Israeli, and most likely not Jewish, as has been reported, and that the name is, in fact, a pseudonym. He said he did not know “Bacile”‘s real name. He said Bacile contacted him because he leads anti-Islam protests outside of mosques and schools, and because, he said, he is a Vietnam veteran and an expert on uncovering al Qaeda cells in California. “After 9/11 I went out to look for terror cells in California and found them, piece of cake. Sam found out about me. The Middle East Christian and Jewish communities trust me.”

He said the man who identified himself as Bacile asked him to help make the anti-Muhammad film. When I asked him to describe Bacile, he said: “I don’t know that much about him. I met him, I spoke to him for an hour. He’s not Israeli, no. I can tell you this for sure, the State of Israel is not involved, Terry Jones (the radical Christian Quran-burning pastor) is not involved. His name is a pseudonym. All these Middle Eastern folks I work with have pseudonyms. I doubt he’s Jewish. I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign.”

I asked him who he thought Sam Bacile was. He said that there are about 15 people associated with the making of the film, “Nobody is anything but an active American citizen. They’re from Syria, Turkey, Pakistan, they’re some that are from Egypt. Some are Copts but the vast majority are Evangelical.”

Yeah, right. Um, if I were a Muslim agent or operative from any of these countries, I could easily pose as an Evanglical or a convert to Christianity. And maybe that’s what “Sam Bacile,” the fake “Israeli Jew” did. Also, it’s pretty easy to find some nut who thinks he’s smoked out Al-Qaeda in California and approach him, convincing him you’re making a movie against Islam and you need his help. This Klein dude seems quite easily convinced because he wants to believe. Then, once I made my movie trailer, I could tell a major newspaper, “hey, the American Jews financed it!” Then, Jews and Americans would be blamed for my anti-Islam stuff, and–presto!–another excuse for the usual Muslim mob violence that never needs excuses, and now I have Jews and Americans as scapegoats. Oh, and Israel, too, since I threw in that “I’m an Israeli.” It’s a pretty clever plot, assuming a lot of people are gullible and easily manipulated. And they are.

The whole story never smelled right. I mean, as I pointed out earlier today, the movie isn’t even out, just a trailer, obscurely hidden on YouTube. How did some Egyptian commentators suddenly discover it? By coincidence? I don’t buy it. And we don’t even know if there is actually a movie. There may not be. All I saw was a trailer, since made “private” and not viewable by me anymore, on YouTube. Maybe that’s all there is.

The fish is rotten here. And very stinky.

“Sam Bacile” is either an agent provocateur or a con artist. Or both. The question is: who paid him to lie and claim 100 Jews gave him $5 million to make an amateurish anti-Islam trailer? And who shared the whole thing with an Egyptian TV commentator so that the whole thing would come to a head in a clearly coordinated attack on U.S. Embassies in Egypt and Libya on the 11th anniversary of 9/11?

If you think I’ve watched too many movies and terrorist TV shows, think again. It’s not so far-fetched–what I think is going on here.

Think about it: Four U.S. officials, including a U.S. Ambassador, were murdered because of it.

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I read in a news report that the “film” aired on a salafist station in Egypt. No one knew it even existed. definitely smells.
shana tova

Brooklyn Boy on September 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm

Another astute call by Debbie. Good job.

DS_ROCKS! on September 12, 2012 at 5:21 pm

I have to agree with your analysis — it’s spot on!

J.S. on September 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm

But Obama has the Nobel Peace Prize…

ebayer on September 12, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    @ebayer

    bahahahahaha… good one.

    Debbie you are amazing. My mind wasn’t even thinking about it being fake, but reading your blog today it makes complete sense. It is way too coincidental that it happened on 9/11. when I watched trailer last night, it said that it was posted in July…. so why now, why yesterday?

    Hope on September 12, 2012 at 6:44 pm

It could easily have been staged by Muslim provocateurs to make the Jews and Israel look bad.

After all, we all know how those rumors about the Mossad instructing Israelis to stay home on 9/11 got started. Apart from the YouTube trailer – there may in fact be no movie at all.

What we do know though is the Muslim World believes rumors, even far-fetched ones and all it took was one to get four American officials murdered over it.

Who made the trailer? Who funded it – and how did Muslims find out about such an obscure piece of work? You’re right Debbie, there are no coincidences in this world and everything happens for a reason.

It may not even have been staged to discredit Islam but instead staged for the exact opposite reason – to discredit the Jews and Israel and provide inflamed Muslim mobs with a convenient, ready-made excuse to attack America and kill any Americans they could find.

We can’t find this guy and no real proof exists the movie was ever made. I bet the IMDB, which has a record of every movie project ever produced, real or imagined – hasn’t heard of this one and as a movie critic – you didn’t hear of it until yesterday.

There are more questions than answers surrounding Sam Bacile and his alleged anti-Muslim movie – questions that may never be answered completely to any one’s satisfaction.

NormanF on September 12, 2012 at 5:31 pm

I’ve got to believe that the September 11th date was intentional. This “movie” was an excuse to invade our embassies.

So much for the “Arab Spring” that America helped to put in place. Khadafi gave up his nuclear ambitions to be America’s ally, and we replaced him with this?

Barry Popik on September 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm

This looks, walks and talks like the Islamic equivalent of the Reichstag fire. The “movie” in question does not exist. And four people — all part of our diplomatic corps — lie dead because of this hoax.

Seek on September 12, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    That said, one point needs to made as Debbie knows:

    No one was forced to watch it and there is NO excuse for murdering Americans in cold blood. Period.

    That’s true regardless of where is its a fake/con as the general consensus appears to be or even on the off chance it exists.

    Regardless of the motives involved in producing it, one should never murder another human being because of their beliefs. But that is what Islam does as a matter of habit.

    And never forget it!

    NormanF on September 12, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Sam Bacille a play on words meaning IMBECILE?

RT on September 12, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    -OR-
    … as in bacillus and bacilli (p.) meaning virus as they speak of Jews and/or hoping the hoax would go viral on the internet.

    Nighthawk on September 12, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Sam Bacile = “iS A M-bicile”. Gawker has the best info on this, followed by BuzzFeed (present company excluded).

    RavingRabbi on September 12, 2012 at 9:05 pm

I watched the clip. It’s a fake, something which kids could do in the garage. The dialogue makes no sense.

That said, the “actors” are real people. Someone knows who they are. They will be found. They will explain.

adam on September 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm

Yup – the more you think about it – it makes no sense. Why would Muslims riot over a movie no one ever heard of and no ever saw?

Debbie is a member of the Detroit Film Critics Society and I bet she has asked her colleagues if they ever heard of it either. I bet the answer was the same one she just told us.

It definitely smells like a set up and no real movie producer would make something that bad for even $5 million. And no one can find this “Sam Bacile.” I bet dollars to donuts he is not an Israeli, not a Jew and certainly not an Egyptian Copt.

But insulting Islam is something Muslims are quite good at and since this was clearly meant to stoke Muslims into a rage, you have to ask who benefits? The answer to that question are the mobs who were spurred into attacking our embassy and consulate and murdering four Americans. If that was the aim all along, it succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of its unknown creators.

NormanF on September 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm

It doesnt really matter if the film was contrived by a sinister group or an idiot with a small budget and some investors. It punctuates that this part of the world is not yet mature enough to join the West and should be punnished and kept at the kids table every time they step out of line. This should be a call for everyone to get on You Tube and do their own sketch on this religion and its blood thirsty desire to wage jihad. The fact that Morsi suggested the maker of the film be arrested speaks volumes on how polar opposite their culture and belief system is from that of our own. That we lost Americans in this incident is sad, especally for their families, but I have no doubt these folks knew the dangers and were up for the risk. Islam is a dangerous and bloodthirsty belief system IT IS NOT ABOUT PEACE. But then again, neither is Judaism or Christianity. They’re gonna get a nuke some day and we will all regret not thoroughly opressing this part of the world decades ago. The soft approach should stop now. An attack on an embassy is an attack on American soil. We should lump some heads like there is no tomorrow.

funtimez on September 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm

Why should it be Jews and Israelis discredited rather than the muslims and islam over these riots? Whoever made this video knows that muslims are never held accountable for their violent actions.

Laura on September 12, 2012 at 5:48 pm

The people in the movie were clearly caucasion and seemed to be Westerners…

F: So what? No one is disputing that (though there are at least one or two Arabs in it). It’s that they were hired by a complete fraud who is neither Jewish nor Israeli and was NOT funded by Jews, and yet he lied and claimed all three. That’s the point here. DS

funtimez on September 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm

Only a 3 year old would have believed that this “film” cost $5M, raised from “100 Jewish investors” and was made by an Israeli. Yet the WSJ reported this repeatedly and the WSJ was then used as a source by every news agency on the web. You can hear the heads starting to roll.

Jeff on September 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    That was the extent of Saudi Prince al Waleed’s newspaper – crappy reporting in which an unverified and unsourced anti-Semitic rumor received wide dissemination via the Internet.

    You would think the WSJ “reporter” would ask obvious questions and do some real reporting! It never happened – which says much about the standards in the mass media. Yup – they fell for it and no one raised any eyebrows.

    The alleged anti-Islamic movie storyline not something any sane Israeli Jew or American Jewish investors would put their money on, unless they have a death wish. It just doesn’t add up. And I don’t really think we’ll be seeing the movie appear any time soon.

    NormanF on September 12, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    There is a story within a story here. How did the Wall Street Journal, one of the nation’s premiere news organizations, managed to be snookered into believing this was a trailer for an actual movie? Anyone could see it was a homemade do-it-yourself joke. No legitimate movie studio would show it even as a trailer, much less a full-length feature film. Meanwhile, over at The American Spectator, one of that magazine’s online bloggers, Quin Hillyer, also has egg on his face. He’s denouncing the movie, unaware that it doesn’t exist! It is no more real than “Sam Bacile.”

    Conservative “journalists” still have a lot to learn.

    S: Um, the American Spectator is the home to several openly anti-Semitic, anti-Israel columnists and writers. And it lies and cannot be trusted, such as when they lied with zero facts or verification to cover the ass of their boy, Sean Hannity, when I exposed his Freedom Concert fraud. Plus they honored Grover Norquist on a cruise they hosted. Why on earth would you read that crappy, anti-Semitic, pan-jihadist site? DS

    Seek on September 12, 2012 at 6:57 pm

      I don’t read the American Spectator any more but the denunciation by Quinn Hillyer tells us all we need to know. There are parts of the Right that hate the Jews and Israel and they also apologize for Islam every chance they get – considering they honored pan-Jihadist Grover Norquist this summer, that says all you need to know about their true sympathies. No conscientious conservative should give them any kind of traffic. Debbie is spot on about them and her advice is well taken. Awhile back, she banned a poster who patronized that site. That you’re a reader there doesn’t reflect well on you. You should change your browsing habits.

      NormanF on September 13, 2012 at 12:36 am

        Think of it as opposition research. Someone has to do the job.

        Seek on September 13, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Why? The meme the “Jews killed Americans with a hate movie” they financed is now out there and it serves to conveniently deflect attention away from the Islamic terrorists who murdered Americans in this reality.

As Debbie can tell you, an Internet meme can take a life of its own like a deadly virus. It doesn’t matter if there’s any truth to it.

And now Jews and Israelis are going to be killed due to this Internet hoax. Of course Muslims will never be blamed either for staging it in the first place (if as Debbie suspects they are actually behind it) or the for deadly consequences that followed in its wake.

NormanF on September 12, 2012 at 5:55 pm

Given how this film is a hoax, maybe the filmmaker’s name should be “Sam Facile.”

ConcernedPatriot on September 12, 2012 at 6:08 pm

If whoever made it thought they would stir up antisemitism, they failed. Most Americans blame the muslim rioters and murderers. Whoever made it does not understand America.

Laura on September 12, 2012 at 6:23 pm

Normal people don’t care who made the movie or what’s in it. When civilized people don’t like a movie they don’t kill people, they just don’t watch the son of a bitch!

RT on September 12, 2012 at 6:57 pm

There will come a time when Israel will instigate a fight and the United States will not back them up, our children are dying fighting in wars Israel always has something to do with, at first I was neutral about Israel, but now that I see that they are the little cousin who goes out and picks a fight and then comes back and tells us( the US) that he had nothing to do with it, an we end up fighting for them, no wonder why the world hates us. Israel should be fighting their own fights, enough is enough, it’s time to wake up and stop spending trillions on wars that are not ours. We need to be a peaceful nation!!!!

StephenJackson on September 12, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Hey Samir Jackarse…tell us why then have there been over 19,000 Islamic attacks in 11 years? Is it all due to the Joooooooos?

    You’re a fraud just as JS says.

    Skunky on September 12, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Mr. Jackson, and how exactly was the then-not-in-existence State of Israel to blame for the wave of Islamic violence that spurred the Crusades? And, why is it then, that before the State of Israel came into existence that Hitler met with Middle-Eastern dictators to get their advice on how to extinguish Jews? The problem with the Middle East is not the existence of Israel; rather, it is the existence of Islam, a religion that promotes murder to solve frustrations and that is intolerant to any deviation of its teachings.

    Dina K on September 13, 2012 at 11:17 am

StephenJackson is as “real” as Sam Bacile. When it comes to blaming the Jews as I already noted, that meme has now gone viral.

But who cares – because as any anti-Semite and Israel hater will now be able to cite on good authority, the WSJ “reported” the Jews were behind it! So there you have it.

The world’s oldest and longest hatred dies hard.

NormanF on September 12, 2012 at 7:09 pm

What if this was just a bunch of people making a spoof movie, for quick money? wallyworkswell@yahoo.com

wallyworkswell@yahoo.com on September 12, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    You say make a movie for quick money. Wally you be crazy!
    ain’t know way I would show my face or my name in Public saying anything bad about islam. fastest way to get a fatwa on yer ass.
    I know its America, but we are getting overrun with them. (Muzzies)

    John on September 13, 2012 at 9:54 am

Oh, please, Jack-son or is that “ass”? Go peddle your wares on some other neo-nazi or pro-terrorist website. I’m sure you’ll find any number of eager listeners to your “struggle” with the Jooooz…your personal “mein kampf” …but here, we’re not interested.

J.S. on September 12, 2012 at 7:15 pm

Nigguh please! Don’t blame the Jews. Why don’t people place blame where it belongs with the “religion of peace?” Why aren’t the standards of “tolerance” applied to all religions?

Patrick on September 12, 2012 at 8:04 pm

Thanks again Debbie. To find out the truth the Mossad should pick him up and give him a free ride to Israel.

Dtom on September 12, 2012 at 8:09 pm

First time to your site – Interesting analysis.

Ltp on September 12, 2012 at 8:15 pm

Why attribute this to the Jews and Israel? I would think that any Jews or Israelis involved would seek to hide their participation so that Muslims would not have a convenient villain that would allow the content of the film to be ignored. If we had a real “press,” we might get to the bottom of this. Instead, the probably false aspects of this will just become part of the wallpaper as we move on to other developments. I also looked at the movie trailer, and it had faked scenery (chromo-keyed, like the local weatherman) that made me question where the $5,000,000 went (if it really existed)? You are right. Everything about this seems wrong.

JOSEPH MCNULTY on September 12, 2012 at 8:21 pm

This does look like a setup.

Worry01 on September 12, 2012 at 8:53 pm

It doesn’t take much to stir things up – real or imagined. Remember the Mohammed cartoons of 2005? Some Danish imam got involved in it, decided he needed to spice up the complaint so he added a few cartoons never part of the originals. More recently, we have the case of the simple girl in Pakistan arrested for “blasphemy” for allegedly burning pages of the Quran with some other trash. Well, a Muslim teacher has been arrested for tampering with the “evidence”, putting a few damaged pages of the Quran to help make the case.

No, it doesn’t take much. Sometimes they’re just looking for an excuse. Here’s a list someone put together back in 2007 of Things that Offend Muslims, with URLs to stories behind each. It’s quite extensive.

http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_amboy_times/2007/02/the_list_of_thi.html

Raymond in DC on September 12, 2012 at 9:02 pm

I’ve often thought similar things regarding Terry Jones; who is he? How is he funding all of his exploits? He appears to be the stereotypical ” male right wing radical” role model. Not to mention those whackjobs at the Westborough Baptist Church: Just some good ol’ hellfire and Brimstone “right wing Christians.” So “dumb and white” one of the daughters argued THEIR First Amendment case in front of the U.S. Supreme Court…doesn’t add up either.
…and the collateral damage from all of this bullshiite? Internet control by most, if not all, of the world government(s)…the “perfect crisis” to control the electrons to control the mass.
Obama “fixed” U.S. foreign policy like Spicoli “fixed” the Firebird.

Sick_Boy on September 12, 2012 at 9:44 pm

Thanks for the two posts on this topic, Debbie.

I saw the trailer yesterday from this website yesterday via of a reader’s link to Youtube’s website. I was thinking the same thing as wallyworkswell@yahoo.com about this being a spoof movie (or with the movie likely non-existent, then make that a spoof movie trailer.) Also, is it me, or does “Sam Bacile” look more like “Weird Al” Yankovic when the latter has a mustache and beard than Muhammad?

Other than that, I don’t know what else to say that hasn’t already been said by Debbie and others who either agree with her and/or added to what she wrote.

JeffE on September 12, 2012 at 9:49 pm

I smelt a rat from the beginning. Every middle-Easterner named Sam I’ve ever known is an Arab. The gullibility of major news in reporting what this imposter said, even with the “he said” qualification was sloppy journalism, if it was journalism at all.

julie on September 12, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Correction–*Mohammad?*.

BTW,

I just checked out that link. The trailer is still available on Youtube for those who are interested.

It’s here:

http://tinyurl.com/d5jjkdx

JeffE on September 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm

It is our own fault.

Here is what I think Debbie.

We did it to ourselves.

Yesterday in Benghazi Lybia, the American Ambassador, Christopher Stevens was killed. This, after ministrations by still another Mullah, horrified by a dissrespectful You Tube Movie denigrating Mohammed, called once again, on the faithful to avenge the Prophet’s honor. First reports would have us believe that terrorists, more likely close associates of the American sponsored Muslim Brotherhood whom by our largesse have ascended to power in that same country, killed Mr. Stevens.

That would be categorically incorrect. Ambassador Stevens was killed by etoliated American Policies now in place throughout the Mideast that appease and encourage the impacable, inveterate advance of a civilization and people who prove again and again in thought, word and deed, the abject hatred of all things Occidental and American.

Today Hillary Clinton, a brilliant woman, asked herself and all Americans a rhetorical question. “How could this happen in a country we helped liberate?” Billions of people all over the world have the answer to this question readily at hand. Those billions would include the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah and various and sundry infamous organizations under the Black Salfist Flag, along with those millions, languishing under the suzerainity of radical Islamist constraint.

The answer is, that the raison d’ etre for the existance of Islam, is the subjugation and destruction of all things Western, by blood, fiat, takia, immigration, war and the reduction of all Occidental civilization to the status of dhimmitude.

Syed Qtub, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood (Executed by Nassar. Mideast Despots are now, and have been one of our best weapons in the fight against extremeists and terrorists. The ill advised idiotic support of an “Arab Spring”, and the consequences for that support is more evident as each day passes.) is no doubt taking a brief respite from his 72 virgins to high five with the Ayatollah Khomeomi at the astonishing ascendance of Shia hegemony througout the Mideast, supported and sustained by American blood and treasure.

The ill advised support of sworn enemies, resulting in painfully obvious extrapolations, has, for some reason, shocked our statesmen and American ship of state. Hackneyed, global, rainbow expectations are now replaced with a realistic Islamic malevolent bedrock of hate, the miasma of which now permeates, along with the stench of death, the Lybian Ambassador’s residence.

Infesting the Mideast over the last 40 years, the necrosis that is the Muslim Brotherhood excrescence is now the body politic that must be dealt with by the idiots who put them in charge. Americans.

Here at home, our Federal Government, in a continuing paroxysm of intrasigence, insists on importing Islamic immigrants at heretofore unheard of levels. The failure of these immigration policies, here at home in places like Omaha and Minnesota, in the face of the unambiguated failure of same, is criminal. Over in Europe, the destruction of England and Western Culture is at hand.

http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/333097/Leo-McKinstry

As we would expect, the 4th Estate’s silence in deafening.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3141/britain-political-correctness

Mean while the Federal Death Star Immigration Tractor Beam grinds forward, in it’s effort to establish a culture who in recent weeks, has declared jihad on dogs, Barbie Dolls, and considers every woman a genetical demimonde who is subject to honor killings at the whim and caprice on the extemporaneous interpretation of “Allah’s” will by the Arab hoi polloi.

We have made ourselves a bed of sand fleas and camel shit.

Sweet dreams.

chuck on September 12, 2012 at 10:40 pm

I anticipate the attackers will be “hunted down” but for reasons other than those stated by obama.
Fake or not has no relevance. The thing that must not be neglected is that obama can be further elevated in the eyes of those who worship at his alter.
Libya only need “Give up,” the alledged attackers allowing obama to falsely claim that he brought them to justice, not unlike his agrandizing himself in the killing of bin laden.
The reason Libya will give them up, is because obama is really wanted to be in office by them as they know he is traitorous to the interests of the United States. He is a “useful puppet.”

Dad on September 12, 2012 at 10:45 pm

The screenshot was a joke – there was no freaking way Mohammed could have looked like any of those guys. And the very title – ‘Innocence of Muslims’ – puts me off as well. From those clowns who claim that Islam is evil, but Muslims aint

So the US embassy in Cairo, and the State Department, are busy condemning a movie that’s not even fully out?

Infidel on September 12, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    Infidel,

    The title is satirical – no one really believes Muslims are innocent. And they don’t like being made fun of!

    If you ridicule Islam, Mislims react with all the restraint of a three year old child with a bad temper tantrum.

    No one would say they are saints so don’t take the title too literally. The rioters in Egypt and Libya didn’t – what no one can figure is why bad satire makes them want to kill Americans.

    I mean they can laugh at us but heaven forbid if we should laugh at them!

    NormanF on September 13, 2012 at 12:15 am

Hey, review “Headhunters”.

Off subject, sorry, I wanna see what Debbie thinks of it.

chuck on September 12, 2012 at 11:03 pm

Bless you, Debbie. I’ve been telling people on FB this all day, just waiting for someone to corroborate with me. It smelled big time, from the start, and smells worse as it “ripens”.

Bliss Heart on September 13, 2012 at 12:08 am

Now the RINOs are out in force, led by McCain and Lindsay Graham criticizing Romney for criticizing Obama for being so weak. So again, there’s more evidence, that in this case, Romney is doing the right thing if these clowns are criticizing him.

David on September 13, 2012 at 1:02 am

McCain was the idiot who gave us the new Libyan “democrats” who murdered the Ambassador and his staff.

Good thing the American people saw through him in 2008. He would been as crappy a President as Obama.

NormanF on September 13, 2012 at 1:14 am

Deb-

I am very impressed with your investigative work.

I nominate you as the next Director of SHIELD….

Nick Fury on September 13, 2012 at 2:00 am

God made Muslims especially stupid. Mohamed did the rest. Then God took the left overs and made a camel.

pat on September 13, 2012 at 2:01 am

Sam Bacile = “imbecile”

I recognized that instantly.

Probably whoever photoshopped the dick-tator’s “birth certificate” made this “movie”

RealAmerican on September 13, 2012 at 3:59 am

I prefer Sofa King Wee Tod Edd to Sam Bacile.

The End.

Bah Dah Bing.

The Reverend Jacques on September 13, 2012 at 4:21 am

I speak Hebrew, have lots of Israeli family, and my first impression was that Bacile is not an Israeli last name.

Dear Debbie: You’re probably right about the guy being a Moslem agent provacateur and a fake, but I’ve met Israelis with some pretty weird last names.

I wish all the religious Jews on this website a happy, healthy, peaceful, prosperous New Year. For those of you who are fasting this Wednesday, Tzom Gedaliya, I wish you an easy one.

The film did not spark any riots. These riots and attacks on embassies and embassey personnel, in Libya, Egyrt and Yemen, are as spontaneous and unrehearsed as a Broadway musical.

Miranda Rose Smith on September 13, 2012 at 6:53 am

California man confirms role in anti-Islam film

By GILLIAN FLACCUS, Associated Press – 10 hours ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The search for those behind the provocative, anti-Muslim film implicated in violent protests in Egypt and Libya led Wednesday to a California Coptic Christian convicted of financial crimes who acknowledged his role in managing and providing logistics for the production.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, told The Associated Press in an interview outside Los Angeles that he was manager for the company that produced “Innocence of Muslims,” which mocked Muslims and the prophet Muhammad and may have caused inflamed mobs that attacked U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. He provided the first details about a shadowy production group behind the film.

Nakoula denied he directed the film and said he knew the self-described filmmaker, Sam Bacile. But the cell phone number that AP contacted Tuesday to reach the filmmaker who identified himself as Sam Bacile traced to the same address near Los Angeles where AP found Nakoula. Federal court papers said Nakoula’s aliases included Nicola Bacily, Erwin Salameh and others.

Nakoula told the AP that he was a Coptic Christian and said the film’s director supported the concerns of Christian Copts about their treatment by Muslims.

Nakoula denied he had posed as Bacile. During a conversation outside his home, he offered his driver’s license to show his identity but kept his thumb over his middle name, Basseley. Records checks by the AP subsequently found it and other connections to the Bacile persona.

The AP located Bacile after obtaining his cell phone number from Morris Sadek, a conservative Coptic Christian in the U.S. who had promoted the anti-Muslim film in recent days on his website. Egypt’s Christian Coptic population has long decried what they describe as a history of discrimination and occasional violence from the country’s Arab majority.

Pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Florida, who burned Qurans on the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, said he spoke with the movie’s director on the phone Wednesday and prayed for him. He said he has not met the filmmaker in person, but the man contacted him a few weeks ago about promoting the movie.

“I have not met him. Sam Bacile, that is not his real name,” Jones said. “I just talked to him on the phone. He is definitely in hiding and does not reveal his identity. He was quite honestly fairly shook up concerning the events and what is happening. A lot of people are not supporting him.”

The film was implicated in protests that resulted in the burning of the U.S. consulate Tuesday in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi.

Libyan officials said Wednesday that Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other embassy employees were killed during the mob violence, but U.S. officials now say they are investigating whether the assault was a planned terrorist strike linked to Tuesday’s 11-year anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks.

Nakoula, who talked guardedly about his role, pleaded no contest in 2010 to federal bank fraud charges in California and was ordered to pay more than $790,000 in restitution. He was also sentenced to 21 months in federal prison and ordered not to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer.

The YouTube account, “Sam Bacile,” which was used to publish excerpts of the provocative movie in July, was used to post comments online as recently as Tuesday, including this defense of the film written in Arabic: “It is a 100 percent American movie, you cows.”

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Leigh Williams said Nakoula set up fraudulent bank accounts using stolen identities and Social Security numbers, then checks from those accounts would be deposited into other bogus accounts from which Nakoula would withdraw money at ATM machines.

It was “basically a check-kiting scheme,” the prosecutor told the AP. “You try to get the money out of the bank before the bank realizes they are drawn from a fraudulent account. There basically is no money.”

The actors in the film issued a joint statement Wednesday saying they were misled about the project and said some of their dialogue was crudely dubbed during post-production.

In the English language version of the trailer, direct references to Muhammad appear to be the result of post-production changes to the movie. Either actors aren’t seen when the name “Muhammad” is spoken in the overdubbed sound, or they appear to be mouthing something else as the name of the prophet is spoken.

“The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer,” said the statement, obtained by the Los Angeles Times. “We are 100 percent not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose. We are shocked by the drastic rewrites of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred.”

The person who identified himself as Bacile and described himself as the film’s writer and director told the AP on Tuesday that he had gone into hiding. But doubts rose about the man’s identity amid a flurry of false claims about his background and role in the purported film.

Bacile told the AP he was an Israeli-born, 56-year-old, Jewish writer and director. But a Christian activist involved in the film project, Steve Klein, told AP on Wednesday that Bacile was a pseudonym and that he was Christian.

Klein had told the AP on Tuesday that the filmmaker was an Israeli Jew who was concerned for family members who live in Egypt.

Officials in Israel said there was no record of Bacile as an Israeli citizen.

When the AP initially left a message for Bacile, Klein contacted the AP from another number to confirm the interview request was legitimate then Bacile called back from his own cell phone.

Klein said he didn’t know the real name of the man he called “Sam,” who came to him for advice on First Amendment issues.

About 15 key players from the Middle East — from Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran and a couple Coptic Christians from Egypt — worked on the film, Klein said.

“Most of them won’t tell me their real names because they’re terrified,” Klein said. “He was really scared and now he’s so nervous. He’s turned off his phone.”

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, said Klein is a former Marine and longtime religious-right activist who has helped train paramilitary militias at a California church. It described Klein as founder of Courageous Christians United, which conducts protests outside abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques.

It quoted Klein as saying he believes that California is riddled with Muslim Brotherhood sleeper cells “who are awaiting the trigger date and will begin randomly killing as many of us as they can.”

In his brief interview with the AP, Bacile defiantly called Islam a cancer and said he intended the film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.

But several key facts Bacile provided proved false or questionable. Bacile told AP he was 56 but identified himself on his YouTube profile as 74. Bacile said he is a real estate developer, but Bacile does not appear in searches of California state licenses, including the Department of Real Estate.

Hollywood and California film industry groups and permit agencies said they had no records of the project under the name “Innocence of Muslims,” but a Los Angeles film permit agency later found a record of a movie filmed in Los Angeles last year under the working title “Desert Warriors.”

A man who answered a phone listed for the Vine Theater, a faded Hollywood movie house, confirmed that the film had run for a least a day, and possibly longer, several months ago, arranged by a customer known as “Sam.”

Google Inc., which owns YouTube, pulled down the video Wednesday in Egypt, citing a legal complaint. It was still accessible in the U.S. and other countries.

Klein told the AP that he vowed to help make the movie but warned the filmmaker that “you’re going to be the next Theo van Gogh.” Van Gogh was a Dutch filmmaker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004 after making a film that was perceived as insulting to Islam.

“We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen,” Klein said.

jill on September 13, 2012 at 9:40 am

I’m with Debbie, muslim money probably sponsored this movie. And I wouldn’t be surprised if we found out that the money first went to the DNC, and they were the ones who found this so-called director.

Jarhead on September 13, 2012 at 9:50 am

Sorry, but a false flag set-up doesn’t seem likely to me because it is too complicated. I have seen the AP report, and I think the simple explanation is this guy claimed to be Israeli-American to throw some people off his trail with a story that detractors would eagerly believe.

Nakoula is a grifter and convicted con-man trying to make a film that he hoped would be a money-maker either in ticket sales or by ripping off investors. This Nakoula guy is in way over his head having miscalculated the fall-out from his movie scheme and is looking for a hole in which to hide.

But his real-life story about a lame con-man provoking Islam by pitching a film about Muhammad and then having to deal with the consequences making him a hero to some and target to others would make a better film anyway. Sort of a Big Lowbowski meets Pineapple Express.

fred on September 13, 2012 at 10:10 am

In the history of film making no self-respecting Jewish producer, director, writer, financier, etc., would attached his/her name to such a poorly designed piece of crap! I watched the YouTube trailer (now deleted) for about three minutes. Unable to begin to describe it.

Rochelle on September 13, 2012 at 11:05 am

Certainly the whole situation reeks of Muslim deception, from the movie that may not exist to the “outrage” that manifestated in acts of war against the US (because US embassies are US territory).

For me, though, the worst thing about this that in backing away in such a panic, the US is shown to be a country of dhimmis. The “movie” is no different from the allegedly vandalized Koran used to frame a retarded Christian in Pakistan. However, Christians in Pakistan are a tiny minority therefore one can understand. How can American fear be understood?

Frankly, all the backing away obscures the fact that Islam and Mo deserve every act of contempt we can think of.

Alas, now that our government has bought into the Religion of Peace biz, and insisted that Arab democracy is already in process, it’s hard to say the truth: this is a setup, but in fact, we agree with the message.

skzion on September 13, 2012 at 11:18 am

DS wrote: “The Journal claimed it talked to Bacile, that he’s an Israeli, and that 100 Jews bankrolled his “The Innocence of Muslims” flick, to the tune of $5 million.”

This sentence is convoluted. So for clarification it should be noted that Bacile claimed that he’s an Israeli, and that 100 Jews bankrolled his “The Innocence of Muslims” flick, to the tune of $5 million, not the Journal.

FrenchKiss on September 13, 2012 at 11:32 am

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