July 28, 2009, - 12:48 pm

The Fat-chelor: As America Gets Fatter, Weird Fat Chicks Shows Invade TV

By Debbie Schlussel

Nobody said America wasn’t a nation full of utter contradictions and hypocrisy.

And so it goes, today . . . with a huge dose of political correctness favoring the, um, “calorically-gifted.”

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Scene from “The Fat-chelor” a/k/a “More to Love”

Today, on the cover of USA Today (and inside many other newspapers of record, including the Wall Street Journal), the headline warns:

Obesity is a key link to soaring health tab.”

The article goes on to note that healthcare costs related to weight (heavy weight, not anorexia)–which thin, healthy people help shoulder–doubled to $147 billion for the year 2008.

And while the headlines scream that, tonight FOX is debuting a show that screams something else:  that it’s okay for these fatties to wear a size 24 and cost Americans gazillions in extra medical bills.

I nickname the show,  “The Fat-chelor.”  But, in PC-victimhood style, it has a far more sympathetic, compassionate, sensitive name:   “More to Love.”  More like, More to Laugh At.  ABC’s “The Bachelor” is bad enough.  But now the producer of that show, Mike Fleiss (cousin of hooker Heidi) brings us this “bigger” version.  A guy who weighs 330 pounds “dates” several women, all of whom are fat, er . . . “plus-sized”–and all but two of whom weigh over 200 pounds.   (The show would be far more interesting if they made the Fat-chelor and his weighty concubines get in an elevator to see if they exceed capacity and find out what happens. )

Yes, we’re supposed to feel sympathetic that these women ate and ate and ate, and sat and sat and sat.   We’re supposed to have compassion and saw, “Aww . . . isn’t that cute and nice.  Finally a show for them.”  Uh, no.  Sorry, but in a society–ours–in which 34% of adults are obese (as of 2006, the latest year for which such numbers are available) and growing (according to the National Center for Health Statistics/Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), we need LESS shows promoting that it’s okay to be sickly and in a poor health condition of your own doing.

It used to be that our society frowned on fat people.  And there were less of them.  But, as I’ve noted for the last decade on this site and elsewhere, we now whine endlessly about thin models and the alleged “pressure on girls to be thin,” and open one retail chain and pop cultue phenomenon after the other to cater to the ever growing fat portion of society.  That’s where the problem lies.

The problem is not an endless parade of Americans who are too thin. It’s an endless parade of Americans who are way, way, waaaaaay too fat.  But the opening and success of stores like “Torrid,” selling uber-zaftig teen girls  lace cross-your-heart hammocks (breas) and thongs that resemble the Brooklyn Bridge in size, has made it in vogue to be overweight.  We encourage it, even though–truth be told–we wouldn’t be caught dead dating these people.

And so tonight’s  debut of the new FOX show–which at one time would have been relegated to a weird closeted chubby chasers fetish club–on national broadcast TV is a symbol of how far we’ve come, er . . . gained.  How far we’ve lost (without losing pounds).

And FOX’s “differently digestive” reality show is not the only pro-fat show on TV, this summer.  Others are also promoting and giving overt approval to people who aren’t just obese, they’re morbidly so.

The barely-watched Oxygen Network has the show, “Dance Your Ass Off,” in which very humongous, overweight people dance to try to lose weight.  I thought a better title would have been “Bring the House Down,” since that’s what would happen if these human tons danced on the second floor of your house.  Some have cited the show, “Ruby,” about a 500-pound woman, appearing on the Style Network.  But at least Ruby is trying to lose weight on that show and is now under 350 lbs.

Yes, the battle of the bulge is a tough one for most Americans.  It’s work.  It takes discipline and initiative.  You have to want to take a walk outside or go for a run.  It’s a test of will and strength to forgo eating another bag of chips or dunk another Oreo cookie.  These fatties are lazy.  They have no self-control.  The choice they do make is for slovenliness.

And don’t give me that “I have a gland problem” excuse.  Unless you are physically disabled, you have no excuse.  Why is it that so many fewer Americans had “gland” problems in 1980, when only 15% of Americans were obese?  I doubt there’s something in the water or that an abormal  gene suddenly took hold of Americans’ bodies like a horror flick script.

And it’s not about socio-economic status and class, either.  You don’t need an expensive gym to work out.  You just need the will for some fresh air and a nice walk in your neighborhood or the park.  The excuse, that poor people don’t have access to fresh produce and are stuck eating at McDonald’s, doesn’t wash either.  McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s–all of these places offer fresh fruit, salads, and lower-calorie offerings.  You just have to have the internal desire to forgo the fries and burgers or eat them in moderation.  Instead, some fat kids and their parents sue fast food chains.  That’s the ticket.

I’ve written about this topic over and over through the years, and the problem just keeps getting worse.  Whenever I write about it, I get hate-mail from the Million Pounds March/A Waist is a Terrible Thing to Mind crowd, as if their lack of self-control and laziness is a civil rights cause (well, it is a civil right to be fat, but you get the point) . . . as if it’s the same as being born Black or Hispanic.  Newsflash:  It ain’t.  You can change your physical condition and lose the weight.  It’s entirely a different thing to lose your skin pigment, Michael Jackson notwithstanding.

And it’s not shallow to feel this way.  Yes, our society is far too pre-occupied with looks.  But it is what it is.  And it’s hardly the same thing as not wanting to be with someone who will crush you in one move:  by sitting on you.  Shows like this send young girls the wrong message:  that people will love them no matter how much they weigh.  Well, yeah, but it’ll be a lot tougher.  Reality check:  fat people are often discriminated against (though perhaps not enough anymore), they are looked down upon, they are made fun of (though, again, not enough anymore because of our PC culture), and to give your kids any message otherwise, you’re setting them up for disappointment and sadness amidst the tub of ice cream.

Mike Darnell, head of FOX’s alternative programming, said he commissioned the show, “More to Love,” because he wanted to do a show with “real” people.

“‘There’d been 100 versions of dating shows. But no one ever said, ‘Let’s try to put regular people – or people bigger than a size 2 – on a show,’ ‘ Darnell says. ‘This reflects the dating pool. It’s very relatable to the vast majority of women who watch these shows.’”

But people don’t want to watch regular people, unattractive people.  Thus, the phrase, “movie star looks.”  People want to escape their lives when they relax and watch TV, not see a carbon copy of Sharon, the fat chick in accounting, literally living large on their small screens.

Several years ago, I mocked the movie, “Shallow Hal.”  Yes, the movie was hilarious.  But its message was that fat people are beautiful, that we should feel for them, that it’s discrimination not to want to date them, that in the end a guy will see the utter “hotness” of a morbidly obese chick–all utter BS.  Sorry, but all of this is fantasy.  And yet the National Association for the Advancement of Fat Acceptance was perturbed at this very sympathetic (to them) movie.  I said it then, and I’ll say it again:  fat chicks need to lighten up.

Do you think they’ll ever make a movie or reality TV show about guys who fall for anorexic chicks?  Good luck.  I wouldn’t watch it.  Not only would it be even more disgusting than the fat shows, it–more important–simply wouldn’t have the comedy value that tonight’s “Fat-chelor,” er . . . “More to Love,” will have.

I feel for these fat-atrixes in one respect:  our society is now telling them that they should feel comfortable in their (multi-folds of) skin.  But, in reality, the contestants on tonight’s “Fat-chelor” are being used and taken advantage of by sleazy Hollywood producers who are making cha-ching off of them.  And that’s worth more than their extremely heavy weigh in gold.

As readers know, I’m against the food police.  And I think government should stay out of healthcare.  I believe in the free market, free will, and personal responsibility.  If you want to eat a giant 1500-calorie super duper cheeseburger, go ahead.  I aplaud that American gives you that choice, and big brother doesn’t tell you what to eat and whether to exercise.  But don’t expect me to pay for your health insurance when you get a corononary because you have a steady diet of crap like that and sit on the couch watching muching on Snickers as you watch “The Biggest Loser.”  Sadly, insurance operates collectively, and I pay for you.  We all do.  When you don’t have insurance, America pays for you and your eating.

And that’s why I don’t cheer this mainstream approbation of the chubby chicks that’s made a marked steady slippery slope incline over the last decade.  In real life, fat chicks would never make it up that slope.

And that’s why–at the core of the problem–it’s the (sometimes thin) people on the left and in the PC crowd who are to blame.  They’re the ones who preach to us not to “judge” people when they weigh 330 pounds and aren’t a linemen for the Dallas Cowboys.  They’re the ones making money casting and (subrosa, mocking) fat chicks.  They’re the ones telling them to feel proud about buying–and wearing–a size 32 thong, so the panty-lines won’t show under their giant size 32 skin-tight leggings.

They’re the ones who give these fat people a leg–and a giant thigh–up.

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One other thing:  You might ask why I pick mostly on fat chicks and not fat men.  Well, for men, it mostly doesn’t matter.  In our society, most women glom onto men for the size of their  . . . wallets.

The Luke Conley, the real estate investor and construction contractor on tonight’s show, is successful.  And because of that, he can probably get a woman far below the standard 200 pounds average of the cast of this show.  Women are judged by their beauty, which is why nearly every hate e-mail I get from Sarahmessiah supporters cites Mrs. Palin’s “gorgeous looks”  (as overrated as they are, all things being relative) as an asset for the Presidency.

Still, studies have shown that water rises to its own level–that people end up in relationships with those who are in a similar level of attractiveness.  And that’s what you have with “The Fat-chelor.”

Well, one way or another, we’re assured of one thing:  The show is gonna be HUGE.

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60 Responses

Agree Debbie, but there is a small percentage who are obese due to medical conditions and medication ( me being one of them ). I gained 65 lbs almost over night on one med and my appetite/activity level hadn`t changed a bit. Can`t judge a book by it`s cover.

Hermster on July 28, 2009 at 12:56 pm

“Obesity is a key link to soaring health tab.”

One good that has happened over the last few years is that many HMO plans have adopted FAT DISCRIMINATION as way to keep their insured’s healthier. They got me to lose 15 pounds by having my doctor call me OBESE! That made me mad, but it worked. I’m going for another 10, now–and so glad for the changes it helped inspire.

Yes, you do say NO to eating certain things, duh! On a practical level, if I had said “no” to the physical and/or accepting coaching input, I would have to pay 20% higher premiums. Smart business–and good for me. And.. not part of the government, either.

Remember John Candy, Chris Farley, Mama Cass, Cory Stringer, et al. Make a decision to deal with it–now.

BB on July 28, 2009 at 1:17 pm

Thank you for writing this article Debbie, this is a problem that steadily gets worse as time goes on. When you try to be accepting of obese people then you just enable the problem. This article should be a message to men and wake alike.
GET UP AND EXERCISE

Edward O'Brien on July 28, 2009 at 2:07 pm

No fat chicks bumper stickers were once popular for teenage
brains of any age but militant, double your size double your fun types, pretty much made them no longer cool.
The tons of fun babes did however produce a ready made victim group to tax and blame for the high cost of medical expenses.
Hollywood amd their Television counterparts must have a very difficult time keeping up with Obama’s whose in and whose out
group to exploit or ridicule.

Rollie Robinson on July 28, 2009 at 2:17 pm

Debbie, I agree that society shouldn’t make heroines or goddesses of overweight people, as it’s a health problem, not grist for the comedy and/or porn mills, but your approach is equally uncalled for, and you are badly misinformed. When I was in college in the early 1980s, I was taught that most obesity was caused by type rather than amount of food. While it was valid even in those days to question why obese people didn’t simply eat proper foods, my professor quickly pointed out, even before I had a chance to raise my hand, that quality foods cost more than most middle class families are willing to pay, while the middle and upper classes are only slightly more knowledgable than the poor about what they should be eating and just as fad diet-prone. Take, for example, the largely upper-middle-class fat-free and low fat craze of the 1970s and 1980s. The sorry fact is that low fat diets slow one’s metabolism to the point that they DIRECTLY CAUSE obesity, and most of the pounds packed on during that twisted era have not been lost to this day. You see, once a fat cell is added to your body, it is there permanently, and although it can be emptied of its lipids and oils, it will still be there waiting to be refilled. Even a collection of emptied cells will make a person heavier than he or she was before. You are fast to dismiss glandular disorders as a credible cause of this crisis, but you simply to not have all of the facts you need to draw such a conclusion. Of course it isn’t glandular disorders alone that make us the second-fattest country on the face of the earth, but metabolic problems generally, some of which are caused by a bad (=typical American) diet, and some of which are caused by stress as well as a myriad of emotional and lifestyle factors of which you’ve probably never even heard or thought. Glandular problems alone, however, are far more common than you may think. One in ten Americans has thyroid disease. Among women, the figure is more like one out of every six. Among Arab-Americans, it’s one out of three. Then there’s adrenal fatigue, multiple endocrine defeceits, human growth hormone insufficiency, and the really big ones — insulin resistance and diabetes. In short, our country has been hit very hard in recent years by glandular disorders of every imaginable stripe. Again, diet is only partly to blame, but in the area of food, possible culprits include the practice of hybridizing crops, resulting in fruits and vegetables that the human body doesn’t know how process, and the practice of feeding corn to cattle, which results in meat that is not only many times fattier than it should be, but also fat that is chemically different from the healthy animal fats that humans have been eating and thriving on for thousands of years. You pooh-pooh the idea that the poor can’t afford a decent diet, but the sorry fact is that the middle and upper middle class cannot either. Grocery store chain Whole Foods has learned the hard way that even folks who earn $100,000.00 per year do not have enough discretionary income to revert to the evolutionary diet of man. Therefore, they are very careful to locate new stores only in neighborhoods with an average per capita income of $200,000.00 per year or more!

Greg Solomon on July 28, 2009 at 2:25 pm

P.S. — I don’t watch TV, and you shouldn’t either. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t have to feel dismayed by all of these fatties, or offended by the utter contempt these shows’ producers spew toward the values and lifestyles of the rest of the population.

Greg Solomon on July 28, 2009 at 2:40 pm

I’m now inspired to skip the gym tonight and go home and watch this show and eat Doritos all night. What a scary concept this show has.

John Hamer on July 28, 2009 at 2:52 pm

GLUCOSE-FRUCTOSE (vs sugar as a sweetener) and TRANS-FATS in processed foods are the HUGE silent partners in making the world fat. And, inactivity.

The glucose-fructose combo being put into foods, replacing sugar as a sweetener, can be traced to Richard Nixon. Notice how Coke tastes different, now.

Trans-fats in processed foods have only been around for 100 years. Crisco anyone?

My French-Canadian aunts used to cluck, and marvel at the “size of women these days”.

“Rose, how did dese’ women get so big?” They would be aghast (really) and shake their heads.

“I don’t remember Jen, women ever being dis’ large!”

One more thing. Sweets are NOT another food group. Use sparingly.

The Canadien on July 28, 2009 at 3:13 pm

34% are obese? Then why the hell do I see/hear a constant stream of “Americans are going hungry” ads on TV and radio? I give up…

Taggart Snyder on July 28, 2009 at 3:16 pm

I am aware of so many people, who are now grossly overweight due to medication (mostly), but also emotional disorders, isolation, poverty, and depression, that it is shocking. That being said, it seems that the only two “sins” left in our society are smoking and obesity. One a chemical addiction and the other, no one really knows. If there were an easy way to correct or cure obesity they would find it. It’s sort of mind numbing that the same people who would not carp on other people’s race, religion, or political positions, feel that they can rip into people for being overweight. One example of the folly of basing life/health insurance on things like smoking, drinking, and weight, is that some very dangerous vices, like being promiscuous are overlooked. If you are a promiscuous person, out engaging in frequent sexual liaisons, you theoretically are endangering others and incurring costs, (some like Herpes and HPV, which are intangible) and you test positive for HIV infection, your promiscuity will cost at least what it would cost for a smoker or overweight person. The drugs alone to treat HIV are astronomical. And double that if you privately know that you are HIV positive and continue to spread the disease to others with impunity. So, in my humble opinion, it is all relative. It’s all about public opinion and public sentiment. Oh, and one more thing. Did you know that Alcohol is responsible for 4% of deaths Worldwide annually? Google it…

RoadsScholar on July 28, 2009 at 3:23 pm

If you want a doctor’s fascinating take on the growing obesity problem in America, read a book my own doctor recommended:
“The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite”, by David A. Kessler, M.D.
Dr. Kessler ran the FDA in the first Bush and Clinton administrations.
Among some things it chronicles is how America has strayed from basic foods to layered, loaded and salt-fat-sugar-laden foods.
He goes into great detail about how this triggers reactions in the brain that parallel drug addiction.
He chronicles the food struggles of acquaintences and friends, as well as his own weaknesses.
Another section covers the food industry, and how slowly over time it has reformulated the way it develops and serves new dishes in the big chain restaurants. It’s so disgusting I haven’t eaten in a chain restaurant since.
I highly recommend this book! It’s an eye-opener.

Michelle on July 28, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Great post by Greg Solomon. I am not overweight but I struggle with low thyroid function and adrenal fatigue. It is incredibly hard to keep my weight stable. The slightest amount of stress can send my weight ballooning. Like Greg, I think the modern diet has really impacted our bodies’ ability to metabolize food. It is not natural to shovel hydrogenated fats and high fructose corn syrup into our bodies, but that’s what’s put on the shelves of our grocery stores and sold at any fast food place. Like Greg mentioned, the hormones injected into the meat sold at the grocery store has also has an impact on the hormone levels in our bodies. Even the plastic containers we use to warm the food in our microwaves releases added estrogen into our food and that is also making us fat.

It’s not that we need to embrace “fat acceptance,” we need to recognize that environmental factors are making it increasingly difficult to maintain a healthy weight. I try to eat natural foods as much as I can, but it is much more expensive (again, as Greg mentioned) and that adds to the difficulty.

Simply going on a tirade and blaming all the “fatties” doesn’t help and certainly doesn’t make any changes that will move this country in a healthier direction.

sqt on July 28, 2009 at 3:41 pm

This was a great post Debbie. You ROCKED IT!! Fat people need a serious reality check. Not all fat people can be lumped in the same group. There are those that are ashamed of themselves and the main group are those victimized, entitled, piggies who want everyone to accept them. Well I don’t care one way or the other about fat people. Most times fat people are nicer and easier to get along with. So I don’t have much ire toward them. Usually the “Attitude” comes from the skinny uptight whores. Also the steriod tatted up dudes who can’t recite the alphabet have “Attitude” as well. Like they own the world. Fu*k them too. However they don’t cost tax dollars for their behaviors. So it I am immune from them taking my tax dollars. But when it comes to fat people then they want to have my taxes raised for their bad choices. Now that is BS!!

Most of the fat people get to their condition as a symption of emotional needs. Since this society is getting more coarse and now most kids are from single mothers these children aren’t given the discipline and emotional restraint from their behaviors. I suggest a lot of fat children come from single mothers. Unfortunately I suspect fat children don’t have the father to tell them to get off their ass. Especially in inner cities and rural areas you see more fat people. Go to a wealthy neighborhood where most families have two parents, rarely are you going to see these obese children. The single mothers have children because they want children to have someone that loves them. This creates a lot of situations where children unfortunately get neglected and child turns to food as comfort, parents don’t care and child balloons. When child turns adult and is confronted about weight then they lash out as a defense mechanism because they weren’t taught by absent father to become active. I believe their should be a fat tax on high fat food, sodas and fast foods. So if they want to keep eating and demanding we pay for their health care. We may have no other alternative but to tax their food. If KING HUSSEIN COBRAMA is going to tax me more to pay for their uncontrolled lifestyle I hope their food is taxed.

I have gained and lost weight. I have gotten 30 to 40 pounds overweight and I lost it. Getting in the gym is a grind but after the first week then it is no problem. Focus and determination plus good music got me motivated.

However this show is a symptom of our society and I think it will get HUGE ratings. Hell MT.HOprah, MT.Rosie, and MT.Roseanne all got HUGE ratings.

CaliforniaScreaming on July 28, 2009 at 3:45 pm

We really ought to be a little careful about the statistics that get thrown around in the news. 34% of Americans are obese? I can say for certain that in the last 25 years I have moved decidedly toward the yellow area on those height-weight charts without gaining a pound. It may well be that the definition of “obese” and “overweight” have changed.

On a similar note, I recall in the late 80s seeing in the news that 25 million Americans were homeless (the homeless were the cause celebre at the time). Honestly, one in eleven people homeless in this country? Beware, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.

Surellin on July 28, 2009 at 4:18 pm

The big difference between fat people and everybody else is that fat people’s troubles are easily spotted. I wish all of you cruel, shallow bastards would have your lives laid bare so that total strangers could make fun of you. Truth be told, though, lots of fat people would likely come to your defense because they know how bad it feels to be mocked. Grow up, people. This is not the schoolyard.

Steve on July 28, 2009 at 4:19 pm

Schlussel’s description of the clothing at a plus-size women’s store, followed by the immortal line “we wouldn’t be caught dead dating these people,” reveal her for the miserable, mean-spirited creep she is. Thank God there’s a real world outside the blogs. We should all spend more time in it.

August on July 28, 2009 at 4:34 pm

You know, you could have made all those same points WITHOUT being a total bitch.

simone donovan on July 28, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Its my constitutional right to be fat.

Just like its your constitutional right to be a bitch.

Bob on July 28, 2009 at 4:54 pm

Oh, and you idiots who think the healthy are paying for the obese –

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050029

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/15293006.html

Eat sh-t idiots. Being healthy COSTS MORE. Fat people pay for you.

Bob on July 28, 2009 at 4:59 pm

I was at the park with my little girl. A small group of moms (including myself) were gathered around the benches just chatting and kvetching. One of the moms pipes up about her thyroid problem. I, being rather naive and stupid that day, chime in with, “What’s your dosage(of synthetic hormones)? Did you have your thyroid removed, or did you do the radio iodine route?” Nope, none of the above. Miss Thang was looking for an excuse to wallow at Taco Bell. Boy, did I feel stupid.

Yes, there are legitimate medical reasons for having weight issues. BUT, I and others in this boat must be responsible for our own health!! That includes…taking our medicine in the proper fashion, avoiding known troublesome foods and situations that lead to overeating, getting into the doctor on a regular basis, getting proper sleep, etc.

Casey
(diagnosed with Grave’s Disease by a real doctor in ’99)

cirrus1701 on July 28, 2009 at 5:10 pm

OK, explain to me again, why it’s anyone’s business how much I weigh? I’m not fat by the way. The problem is once we assume we have to have everyone be responsible for everyone else, especially in health care, we lose freedom. I have freedom to smoke, eat, be a bigot, drive without a seat belt, and anything else the rads on the left don’t like. I still smoke to make a political statement. I drive a gas guzzler, and threaten every Prius I pass. Get off my back and let me live my life as I like, without harming anyone else. Read the Ninth Amendment.

RedneckJD on July 28, 2009 at 5:37 pm

A couple more thoughts on this…

If you can’t see that people are heavier than ever these days and dispute the stats, wake up! It is getting so bad. Forgive me for noting this observation–I have been in these restaurants that are buffets and also those that serve these huge portions (like Perkins, AKA Porkins), sometimes enough for 3 people–the main patrons are the heavies! Why is that? D-E-N-I-A-L.

One place I go for late lunch serves “all you can eat” crab legs. I get a salad or sandwich. I sit and watch as a couple 400 lb-ers waddle to their table. The waitress brings plate after plate of crab legs with drawn butter. I want to puke at this. They laugh as the crab juice is flying off the cracking shells and as they tell her “at least a couple more rounds!” I think this restaurant should be able to invoke a “right not to serve” to such abusive patrons.

To those posters who say pointing out one’s obesity is unfair, as all others have sins that are hidden—I have to say, your point rings totally hollow. On this site, child molesters, violent offenders, liars, philandering cheats, adulterers, pimps, whores, druggies, alcoholics, drunk drivers, lazy butts, terrorists, and hypocrites of every stripe are equally called out. So, what good is accomplished by your using the, “everyone’s got problems” defense? That really solves it, eh?

I was told long ago that the best exercise for losing weight is called a “push away.” When you finish your portion (implies one pays attention to what he/she is eating and how much), you simply push away your plate. You don’t put more on it!

All this bunk about how our biology has changed, and blaming the foods and such is simply enabling. I realize we all have different body types and metabolic rates and the foods are full of fat and sugar and all that–still, we now raise kids who grow up sitting in chairs or couches, playing computer or video games–who rarely go out and play in a way that gets their hearts pumping. It is so tragic.

Sooooo, take responsibility–and make some changes. Get mad and do it if necessary, but do it!!

BB on July 28, 2009 at 5:52 pm

I can’t believe Big Hollywood linked to this piece of crap.

It’s no wonder we conservatives get stereotyped as mean-spirited assh*les.

This posting is beyond pale.

Just Cirroc on July 28, 2009 at 5:56 pm

Bob and Simone are right. Seems lately like you’re going for the all-time bitch record. Perez Hilton needs to be scared.

Pfft on July 28, 2009 at 6:34 pm

F— you, you skinny blonde whore.

Fatricia on July 28, 2009 at 6:42 pm

Debbie, I share your aversion to fat. I still remember when I was a kid and my mom mentioned buying me Toughskins in the husky size. I got the message and am fit and trim to this day.

A1 on July 28, 2009 at 6:54 pm

Bob, this has got to be one of the funniest replies I have ever read. You said it was “my constitutional right to be obese.” Good for you. Just don’t tax me more for your lifestyle. Yeah Obama wants to tax fit people for fat people.
It costs $147 Billion a year to care for the obese half paid for by taxpayers through Medicare and Medicaid. Did you bother to read Debbie’s link?

You also said, “Eat sh-t idiots. Being healthy COSTS MORE. Fat people pay for you.” I read your links and it was a Dutch study with a Socialized Health Care and it stated “Dutch researchers found that from age 20 to 56, obese people racked up the most expensive health costs. But because both the smokers and the obese people died sooner than the healthy group, it cost less to treat them in the long run.”

So I get it, obese people rack up a huge bill over a short period of time and since fit people live longer you want a total cost analysis. Well can we tax the fat corpse when you die. We continue to live years longer and we want payback. So lets tax fat people after they croak because you guys left us fat bill.

CaliforniaScreaming on July 28, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Debbie
I ALSO can’t believe Big Hollywood linked to your hateful rant

Just Cirroc is correct- It’s no wonder we conservatives get stereotyped as mean-spirited assh*les.

I know you- in high school, you were the pretty girl who viciously put people down, so you could confirm your superiority. I’m now a teacher, and there are two or three horrible girls like you in every one of my classes…

George on July 28, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Yikes. Hornet’s nest. Stirred up. Maybe all that anger is simply low-blood sugar. I prescribe a bag of cookies. Pepperidge Farm Orange Milanos might do the trick. (Loved your post, by the way.)

Wholebrainer on July 28, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Debbie and others don’t pull a muscle laughing your as* off on this YouTube video.

FAT PEOPLE FALLING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNupRTfpM9s&feature=PlayList&p=3B8C6C13A974D615&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=5

CaliforniaScreaming on July 28, 2009 at 9:00 pm

Let’s go the whole nine yards and tax everyone who takes chances with their health, including recreational drug users, rock climbers, people who get speeding tickets and people who have unprotected sex. Seriously, mind your own business already. Some of the worst harshest fat critics I know have to drop a Xanex every time the guy at Starbucks blows their order.

M: Hmmm . . . I’m looking and looking over what I wrote and wondering where the invisible ink is that allegedly says I advocate taxing any of these people. They do tax me, though, b/c I pay for their healthcare through my insurance payments and taxes. It’s hard to “mind your own business” when these fat-asses are shoved in our faces everywhere you look. DS

Max on July 28, 2009 at 9:39 pm

I’m pretty much done with Big Hollywood after this.

Wanton on July 28, 2009 at 9:42 pm

Losing weight was the easiest thing I ever did. Lost about 20 lbs in 2 months. I just stopped eating sugary, fatty garbage and got more exercise. Just a question of self discipline, that’s all.

Women talk about losing weight, women read books and watch tv shows about losing weight. They look for shortcuts, loopholes and gimmicks but unless they are willing to go hungry once in a while and burn more calories than they consume, they’ll stay fat.

tempus fugit on July 28, 2009 at 9:56 pm

Correction: You can be skinny, drug-addicted, and illiterate OR a religious saint and a genius and fat, but the skinny person will be treated AS IF she is both a genius and a saint no matter what her actual qualities are. It is true that most of humanity for centuries has been organized on the principle that women are judged by looks and men by money. However, that is no longer the dominant paradigm since women have entered the professions. Women can be judged on many criteria, which means that fear and neurosis that she cannot get a husband to support her based on her ass have largely been eliminated from women’s lives. Women can still choose to live on the paradigm of looks/money, and it is still profitable to do so, as the very fact that this woman has a website which people read shows. Modern conditions also allow that a woman can be a whore and be respected for it. I don’t feel that is appropriate. But women can sell themselves without social disapproval for high, high amounts of money and get applause for it– for the first time in history in America in the last century. I would suggest these kinds of women not show how ungrateful they are for a lack of social reprisal for what other countries would exclude or even kill women for doing, but instead focus on how lucky they are that they can get a living based on their body. Back when women couldn’t get in the professions, men were forced to respect women as women, mothers, comforters, creators of the next generation, (not just sex objects) and provide for them. Now, there is less respect for women as women, women are less motivated to starve themselves to look good for a husband, and they are also able to advertise themselves for intelligence, competence, and other qualities that are not looks-based. Basically this woman is ignorant in not understanding how these dynamics work, and extremely ill-bred in complaining about the situation- in fact, obese people do NOT cost the country more. They are being scapegoated, as smokers were, for societal tensions. This woman further profits from the apparent excess of fatties littering the nation like beached whales, as any item that is scarce (say a kind of bitchy woman who thinks boobs are the highest cultural product known to man)
goes up in value when it is scarce. This show is simply proof that her kind is getting scarcer and scarcer, which should make her happy. However her reaction is almost as if she is being faced with competition… maybe because she feels her value is based on the devaluing of others who are fat.
This woman should simply enjoy the fact that she is not spit at or hated for getting to sell herself at a higher value than fat people. Fat people probably sell their intelligence, good humour, and sympathy, and that is why they are well-loved by their communities, if not by people they see on the street. I would suggest her vitriol might indicate that a self-confidence built on sex appeal is….. well, not that solid. A person in the victor’s camp does not speak this way, as usually victors who know they are so are magnanimous is victory, and so, one can only conclude a personal problem from an article like this.

Bill on July 28, 2009 at 10:07 pm

More self righteous garbage and self congratulatory crap from people who are fat phobic bigots. Yes, I have a lot of respect (NOT) for a woman who has probably spent some her life trading on her looks and than whines about hate mail in objectional terms towards fat people.

Austenadmirer on July 28, 2009 at 10:35 pm

Addressing the title of this article, I saw nothing in the promotion of this show that claims “fat is beautiful”. FOX is not a fat activist network. You have to go to Fat Activist websites, which generally keep a low profile, to get that kind of rhetoric. As everyone knows, fat people are NOT beautiful. But punishing and hating people for not having the extreme positive of a characteristic is strange. Men are lauded for money, it is true. But do we publicly lambaste men who haven’t become millionaires by 35? Some perspective is needed. I saw on the promo for this show the idea that “average” people were being used, and that the public, oddly enough, would not barf at seeing on TV the same people they see on the street everyday. It’s just another reality show. This does not change people’s really eternal appetite for beautiful women. What men think is really beautiful about beautiful women though is the attitude they they are not entitled just for being endowed at birth with a good body and looks. It is true that fat people can work very hard not to be fat, but good looking women can also work very hard to keep their mouths unbitchy and closed most of the time- the Greeks called this sophrosune. Women get most of a culture’s capital for beauty and reproduction qualities– it is not attractive at all to see a mostly beautiful women spouting hate towards her lessers in social reward. Average men making average incomes attract average women making the same. That they should want to watch this on TV is not disturbing or even worth comment. Nor does it socially promote fatness, as nearly every other article I read in the media talks about the pathology/mental illness/ low self-esteem/ health cost/ of obesity, ad nauseum.

Again, to the victor in the looks contest go the spoils… making this kind of diatribe simply unclassy.

Bill on July 28, 2009 at 10:36 pm

Oy, what got started here? I agree, we should not be advocating fatness. And it IS about self control. I had a summer job at a Nathan’s, and LOST 20 punds. How? By not eating the french fries and hot dogs. I would always eat a grilled chicken sandwich or salad and I agree with those who believe it is up to you. You can control yourself.

mindy abraham on July 28, 2009 at 10:53 pm

I think the main reason certain people get upset about the fat issue is that they confuse aesthetics with morality. In the past decade, there has been an impoverishment of aesthetics… people have dressed down, giving the impression they care about the impression they make on others less than others think they should. A tiny minority of people feel that they shouldn’t stress out about weight, but the culture at large has made slovenliness an egalitarian issue. From my perspective the balance is swinging back, and this article is far more an indication of the current climate on beauty and women’s cultural ‘responsiblity’ to be beautiful than anything FOX does. Women like this one feel that appreciation for beautiful women in general has been dressed down, and she attacks fat people for it. The urge to morally condemn people who refuse to be beautiful is very primitive, and very understandable. It’s just wrong though. The pendulum is swinging back towards the social tendency to believe that not striving to have a respectable (that’s skinny and beautiful in female terms) appearance is like a big finger directed towards society. I get it, I really do. But what you are really talking about are cultural standards of morality and aesthetics, not health issues at all.

Bill on July 28, 2009 at 11:22 pm

As a conservative, I will finish off by adding that the correct conservative position on this is not echoing the elitism and hate of Hollywood towards those who are not beautiful. Women always have and always will be appreciated for beauty.. and rewarded for it lavishly. Conservatives appreciate beauty, but in Platonic terms, it must give birth to truth. There is always a moral value to beautiful women, and it is that their beauty contributes to children and continuing the culture. It’s not an item in and of itself to bash over other people’s heads. Conservatives also understand limits– beauty is a rare and precious thing. It is not for everyone, and many women who are good people are not blessed with it. They should still be appreciated for what they contribute- whether it adds to a male’s sexual pleasure or not. The main issue here is that fat people are not sexually atttractive, not that they are unhealthy or steal health benefits from others. Any true conservative position will not attack people for inborn limits on any such evanescent thing as not having beauty. They should be responsible as human beings for keeping healthy, being morally responsible, and doing good work, just like everyone else including beautiful women. The reality is that someone who is skinny just does not know the circumstance of the fat person– and, as the person getting the rewards for the looks, I again simply do not understand the attack. This attitude seems to come from an amoral position.

Bill on July 28, 2009 at 11:29 pm

If anything this article represents the tried and true liberal position, which is that looks are moral. That appearance equals the value. The over-estimation of looks and the refusal to put aesthetics in any morally linked continuum is the free-sex, make money on your pussy attitude of liberals. Conservatives value classic good looks, but aesthetics is not in a vacuum for us. It is paired with moral qualities, both towards the ugly and the beautiful.
I don’t know what this woman calls herself, but she should read a little Burke or something.

Bill on July 28, 2009 at 11:31 pm

Vacation destinations Debbie might want to avoid, as we certainly wouldn’t want any blubbery fat chicks to spoil her view.

Hawaii

Samoa

Micronesia

Cook Islands

Tonga

Niue

Palau

Figi

New Zealand

…basically the entire South Pacific.

Just Cirroc on July 29, 2009 at 1:15 am

there are more fat people today because we have technology and consumerism that can deliver everything- particularly food and entertainment- to people in such a way that they literally do not have to get up off their butts to get it. Drive in food, delivered food, fast food- food is everywhere. If you can waddle to your car in the driveway, then waddle back in when you return, you can get everything you need. We work, travel, recreate, eat, communicate- everything- sitting down. No wonder we’re a nation of porkers.

Jones on July 29, 2009 at 1:44 am

When do we get the Chunky Olympics?

Sorrow01 on July 29, 2009 at 2:55 am

I suggest all posters, and you too Debbie to visit the Center for Consumer Freedom, a site that exposes the food police and their idiosyncrasies before the media spins them.

http://consumerfreedom.com/

Bob Porrazzo on July 29, 2009 at 6:16 am

Yes its a new victim group. I guess they replaced Smokers. Some have said its diet. Could be, could be alot of things. So now we are going to regulate Fat People ? Regulate them to what. If we get that new Government Rationing of Health Care, Fat people will automatically be doomed, along with Smokers, along with ‘You’ Wine and Cheese hounds, and anything that could possibly bring pleasure to an individual, will be outlawed as Risky Behavior as considered by the Government.

So if you start making demands, passing laws that Fat People must run 5 miles a day or lose their health care, then who’s next ? Beer Makers, Wine. Whatever happened to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

People should sweep in front of their own door first.

Mark on July 29, 2009 at 7:38 am

TAX THE DONUT!! I am a independent who leans conservative and if we are going to be taxed by KING HUSSEIN COBRAMA quit coming after our labor and production and go after the DONUT. I think skinny people or fit people have more hangups and become some become narcissitic to the point of entitlement as well. But fit people are not after other people’s wallet. However it doesn’t mean fat people are beyond criticism. When the fat person demands society changes the way they look at them, Sorry. If you want society to be taxed for your lack of self control then start with yourself. Gluttony is a sin. That is whay society over the years has condemned being too fat or obese. When fat people are asked whether they mind being fat or not, they will say they fat or be in denial. If you think they really like being obese that is a front. How many informercials are trying to sell you something to lose weight? The question should be asked “Do you want your children to be fat or fit?”. Then the answer is always fit. However being fit is not being wished, it is through hard work and self control. And there are people who have legitimate overweight medical conditions. Also some people can eat all they want and never gain weight because of high metabolism. But when close to half the population is moving in the obese range that is not that the case.
So before KING HUSSEIN COBRAMA wants to raise my taxes or change my private healthcare plan, TAX THE DONUT first.

CaliforniaScreaming on July 29, 2009 at 10:06 am

I would rather have physical problems as opposed to Debbie’s problems. But Rush has mentioned Debbie in the past, so she had that going for her.

John Klepper on July 29, 2009 at 2:46 pm

I am finding that the current Food Pyramid guidelines the government pushes on us might be, if not the entire problem, at least a good part of it. It suggests that we get most of our calories from grains & other starchy carbohydrates, which also have a strong effect on insulin levels. Insulin seems to play a *very* big role in fat storage.

Combine constant insulin exposure with inactivity and we have a perfect environment for a nation of overweight people. It may be that some people are more sensitive to the constant insulin exposure, hence we see more metabolic syndrome and even diabetes, both of which are related to faulty insulin levels.

I suggest reading some of the articles at the link below to see what I’m talking about. I find it interesting that the increase in obesity seems to correspond with roughly the same time the starch-based food pyramid was touted as the way to eat right.

The devil of insulin is that it not only contributes to fat storage, it also makes it harder to get rid of. Someone who cuts calories but still continues to eat mostly starchy carbs still has high insulin levels in their blood, sabotaging their efforts.

In summary, I believe we need to get the word out that the government’s current dietary guidelines are incorrect, and are playing a significant role in the increase of obesity in this country.

http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?k=insulin

kaj on July 29, 2009 at 8:33 pm

Crappy article, jokes were reaching for humor. Saw part of the show. Not for me.

I had a friends who was deeeeeply into boning fat chicks. I don’t know why. His only observation that I recall was no matter how happy they pretneded to be, he said they were all fucked up in the head.

Wally London on July 30, 2009 at 8:28 am

I have been a member of both groups in my life. Due to a severe physical injury, I am now a member of the so-called repulsive fat group. At one time, I ran 3 miles every other day and worked out in a gym 3 times a week.

The beautiful group sit around bitching, moaning about how the fat people are ugly, drive up their health insurance, how smokers stink, can smell second hand smoke at 200 yards away, and all are useless eaters with the conclusion being I am better than they are.

IMHO,Vanity is far more repulsive than carrying a couple of extra-unwanted pounds. Been in a gym lately? They all have wall to wall mirrors causing even the most desirable specimen to feel guilty.

I would rather be in a room full of people that are moderately over weight (useless eaters)than a room full of the “beautiful people”. The conversations are far more interesting and less vain.

With that said, I have no interest in reality shows whether they are fat or slim.

ScottyDog on July 30, 2009 at 3:06 pm

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