Comments on: Islam v. Judge Paruk: In Litigation Jihad, Frivolous Niqab Lawsuit Ignores Basic Law

By: The End of the Niqab Case: HA! Jihadist Lawyer Dumps Client, Throws Case for Greener Pastures

Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:32:58 +0000

[...] Paruk, in which Ms. Muhammad, an Islamic convert, sued Hamtramckstan, Michigan Judge Paul Paruk for refusing to let her testify in his courtroom unless she removed her full-ninja Islamic face-veil (called a “niqab”). The appeal of the case was quietly dismissed on October 15th, [...]

By: islamispeace

islamispeace — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:08:18 +0000

Stay strong my sista in islam i suppost u a100 %%%

its ur right against constitution and bill of right!!!!

By: The Purple Cow

The Purple Cow — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:43:09 +0000

Only someone as terminally dim as canucksteve would use the blathering of one extremist hate-site as a justification for the views of another extremist hate-site.
You don’t think the allegedly ‘scholarly’ answers are the teeniest-touch one-sided, stevie boy? Just because someone has a PhD, doesn’t mean that they are incapable of talking bollocks. Re-read the section on Jihad for instance, and notice how the writer has to desperately twist and turn in a vain effort to justify the standard extreme right-bullshit.
“Yeah well TECHNICALLY they are right when they say Jihad doesn’t mean holy war, but y’know in the general sense they are wrong because me and my buddy over here says so, and he’s got a PhD. So yah boo sucks.”

By: stevecanuck

stevecanuck — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:58:18 +0000

Purple and virus,
Since I’m the knuckle-dragging conservlodite, and you’re the enlightened liberals, perhaps you could take the time to read this. It’s very informative and answers in a scholarly fashion most of the points we’ve been exchanging in our friendly little chats.
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Terrorism/by_the_sword.html
Me go club mastadon now. Need eat.

By: anti-virus

anti-virus — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:39:54 +0000

Stevecanuck , I guess if people started to post quranic verses within context, it will kind of upset you, Its humorous, that when muslims tell you that they are not violent because of their religion you claim they are wrong and that they SHOULD BE violent because of it. As for verse 9.29
ìAnd fight against those who ñ despite having the Book (aforetime) ñ do not (truly) believe either in God or in the Last Day, nor consider forbidden that which God and the Conveyor of His Message have forbidden, nor follow the religion of truth (which God has enjoined upon them) until they agree to the payment of the exemption tax (of defense-obligations, jizya) by those who afford it, and acknowledge their subjection (to the state).î
The nature of this verse with respect to fight is not antagonistic because of ethnicity, but rather over monetary issues within the state. A similar policy is applicable to the Muslims themselves when they refuse to pay their dues to the state. In the same manner Christians and Jews are obligated to pay the state jizya, Muslims are obligated to pay to the state zakat. Zakah is a form of taxation similar to the tax that most people have to pay to their respective states. In similar manner to the case of jizya with respect to the People of the Book, if Muslims, too, refused to pay zakat, then the state is obligated to obtain it by force.
Sould you need the urge of learning the context of any other quranic verses please consult your friend Google unless there are some reasons you are not inclined to do so such as your unjustified hatred and bigotry.
peace

By: The Purple Cow

The Purple Cow — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:40:25 +0000

“Why are my quotes “out of context”, but yours aren’t?”
Erm, that’s exactly the point I’m making.
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“Also, you conveniently forgot about 9:29.”
9 29 what?
It’s 17:15 here.
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“And, what were Muslim armies doing “defending themselves” in France in 734 (no to mention all the other places they invaded).”
Listen carefully Steve, I need you to concentrate. Christians built the gas chambers and used them to murder 6,000,000 Jews. This doesn’t make all Christians evil, or Christianity an evil religion. Ditto anything evil men do. Doing something evil in the name of religion doesn’t make the religion evil, it just means evil men sometimes do evil stuff.
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“The Qur’an makes it clear that anyone who doesn’t follow Islam is a enemy of Islam, which makes waging jihad against them not just allowable, but required.”
This is exactly what I mean about out of context. You insist on quoting the forty ‘sword verses’, yet you studiously ignore other parts of the Quran that deliberatly contradict the sword verses. You are typical of your type, a non-thinking religious bigot. You and the Islamists are one and the same.
I read a scientific paper written by two Swedish psychiatrists that stated that Conservatism is actually a psychological condition, typified by a complete inability to carry out or understand nuanced thinking. The postings of you and your buddies on this website tend to back that theory up. You have an idiotic paradigm in your head, and you refuse to question it. So you carry on believing what everyone else knows to be a lie, the truth is of no interest to you.
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“We can argue about this later as we both while away our time getting burned and fed molten brass for eternity. Why do you defend a religion that hates your guts????”
The only people who hate my guts are Christians. The only neighbours we have worthy of the name are Muslims, and the many Muslims in my Cricket club also resolutely refuse to hate me.
Islamists probably would hate me I agree, but they are no more representative of Islam than the KKK or the Nazis were of Christianity.
So while I do not defend Islam for the simple reason there is no such thing as god, I refuse to hate Muslims just because vile scum like you tell me I should.

By: stevecanuck

stevecanuck — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:51:17 +0000

Hey Purp,
Why are my quotes “out of context”, but yours aren’t?
Also, you conveniently forgot about 9:29.
And, what were Muslim armies doing “defending themselves” in France in 734 (no to mention all the other places they invaded).
The Qur’an makes it clear that anyone who doesn’t follow Islam is a enemy of Islam, which makes waging jihad against them not just allowable, but required.
We can argue about this later as we both while away our time getting burned and fed molten brass for eternity. Why do you defend a religion that hates your guts????

By: The Purple Cow

The Purple Cow — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:46:04 +0000

Well, as an atheist itís not really my job to defend any religion, but here goes anywayÖ
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Your bible is arguably hypocritical about this turning the other cheek stuff.
Whilst Jesus, does indeed sayÖ
ìBut I say unto you, that ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also (Matthew 5-39).î
..in the New Testament, we have passages which purport to teach quite the opposite. For instance;
ìThink not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (Matthew 10:34).î
And another passage says:
ìThen said he unto them. But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one (Luke 22:36).î
So on one hand Jesus allegedly says ëturn the other cheekí, and on the other he says, ëIíve come to planet Earth to wage warí and ëif you havenít got a sword, sell your clothes to buy oneí.
Old J.C. was a touch inconsistent, doncha think? Unless of course, ëturn the other cheekí means something else entirely.
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Now in the Quran (22:40-42 ) we find thisÖ
ìPermission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged-and Allah indeed has power to help them-Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, “Our Lord is Allah”-And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty.Those who, if We establish them in the earth, will observe Prayer and pay the Zakat and enjoin good and forbid evil. And with Allah rests the final issue of all affairs.î
So in Islam permission to wage war is only given to those who are the victims of aggression, and wish to defend themselves.
Similarly by asking that people ìturn the other cheekî Jesus was not saying that people should allow themselves to be beaten or robbed, he was warning against the taking of revenge.
So once again we can see that there is little difference between Islam and Christianity.
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Donít hesitate to ask for my help again young master Sobieski, any time you need help with your homework little boy, Iím your man.

By: JSobieski

JSobieski — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:14:21 +0000

Purple Cow:
If you think you can find something about “turning the other cheek” in the Koran, why don’t you cite it for us?
In the New Testament it can be found in Matthew 5:39. In the Koran it can’t be found because it isn’t there.

By: Stealthkix

Stealthkix — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:23:40 +0000

Apparently not.