July 9, 2013, - 11:25 pm

Hasseldumb: Airheaded Lib Bimbo Elisabeth Hasselbeck Joins FOX News (I Found Out Last Wk); Says 9/11 Wasn’t Done by Muslims

By Debbie Schlussel

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I am kicking myself that I didn’t put up the story that I learned last week, as I would have been the first: that the biggest moron–and the competition is stiff–on ABC’s yenta hag-fest, “The View,” bimbo extraordinaire Elisabeth Hasselbeck, was joining FOX News. I actually heard about it a month ago (and figured that’s where she was headed when the rumors surfaced moths ago about her ouster from ABC–‘cuz who else would take the bim?), but didn’t confirm it until about a week and a half ago. I didn’t post it because I figured that, given it’s the week of Independence Day, this would be a better week to break it. And I didn’t know what her position would be, which turns out to be hosting “Fox & Friends” (I am shocked they gave this absolutely stupid person a morning show hosting gig, not that the chick she’s replacing was any Einstein–welcome to showbiz!). Now, I’m kicking myself that I didn’t post it then, because I would have been first. But that’s the nature of the biz. If you snooze, you lose. And with the woman whose claim to fame is that she came in fourth in the second season of “Survivor” still on the air, we all lose. She’s a dummy extraordinaire. The thing is, contrary to popular belief, Hasselbeck is LIBERAL. Her only conservative position is that she’s pro-life. On everything else, she’s as liberal as Barack Obama . . . actually to the left of even him.

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FOX News Hires Another Liberal Dummy, Elisabeth Hasselbeck

Yes, on almost everything, Hasselbeck’s not only liberal, but quite stupid, uninformed, uneducated. I’m sure the idiotette will follow the FOX News memo and say what they tell her to say, just as fellow peroxided airhead Gretchen Carlson (whom she’s replacing) did. Even though she’s a complete imbecile, she has a tiny bit of a brain left to know that she should say what people tell her if she needs money. And since ABC was gonna dump her from “The View,” the only place she had to go was FOX News. Her very brief turn as a contributor and correspondent for ABC’s “Good Morning America” bombed, even with a fluffy Justin Bieber interview guaranteed to get ratings (it didn’t). But leave it to FOX News to pick up everyone’s trash, as they did by hiring Howard Kurtz. And here’s a sampling of her positions in ten years of idiocy on “The View”–views so liberal and ridiculous that even far-lefties Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, and Sherri Shepherd were often to the right of her and took the sensible positions:

* She thinks Islam is great and said she’d be very upset if anyone taught her kids that Muslims perpetrated 9/11 (I guess it was the Wiccans?), saying:

I would never say [to my daughter] Muslims killed us on 9/11. I would say terrorists killed us on 9/11.

She said we need to understand and be forgiving of others and their lifestyles when Islamic terrorism was discussed.

* When Orthodox Jewish women were attacked as ugly on “The View,” she laughed and agreed. Yup, she and the Muslim Brohood and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion have a lot in common.

* She condemned Arizona’s immigration law and supports illegal alien amnesty and open borders.

* She initially praised Sonya Sotomayor as a great choice for the U.S. Supreme Court on the day after the decision was announced, saying, “This is great because Hispanics are the most important group of people in America.” WTF?! (A day later, after she read the FOX News talking points (which she was receiving when she was at ABC), she suddenly opposed Sotomayor. Barely.)






* She praised far left U.S. Senator Carl Levin’s S-word tirade against Goldman Sachs, Wall Street, and “big business,” saying “now at least there’s some accountability.” Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, and Sherri Shepherd were to the right of her on this, trying to talk some sense into her. But you can’t talk sense into mush-for-a-brain.

* She supports San Francisco’s big government/statist ban on McDonald’s Happy Meals because she does not believe it’s her job to say no to her kids. That’s the government’s job. She’s too lazy to be the parent. Whoopi Goldberg was to the right of her on this issue, saying that Hasselbeck and the government shouldn’t be telling McDonald’s what to do and that we shouldn’t be held hostage by Hassel-idiot’s lack of parenting ability.

* She supports gun control and pimped it after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School (and at other times).

* She’s a fan of Al Sharpton and supported the firing of Don Imus over the “Nappy Headed Ho” comment. “Al Sharpton is right! He should be fired.” When Joy Behar (yes, Joy Behar was the sensible one compared to this dimwit) brought up Al Sharpton’s anti-Semitic comments, race riots, and hypocrisy, Hasseldumb said she didn’t know about any of that or if it was rue and argued with Behar.

* She defended Canada’s silencing of Ann Coulter (keeping her from speaking at a university there), saying, “They did the right thing. . . . I’m so in love with Canada.” This was after Joy Behar attacked Canada for doing this and defended Coulter’s right to speak.

* She attacked the police officer who arrested Henry “Skip” Louis Gates, Jr., as a “racist” who “acted stupidly.” Even Barack Obama stopped short of the “racist” part.

* She called a religious Christian Irish farmer, “UnChristian,” for asking a naked Rihanna to leave his property.

* She “admires” Hillary Clinton.

* She’s a fan of Snoop Dogg, now Snoop Lion.

* She supports gay marriage and cheered the success of the Katy Perry songs, “I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It,” and “Ur So Gay” (a song about masturbation, featuring the words, “j-ck you off”), attacking parents who didn’t want those songs played on mainstream pop radio for their kids to hear.

* She supported open gays in the military and the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.

* She supports Title IX (used to aggressively get rid of non-football male athletic programs at colleges and universities and replace them with dumb women’s sports like softball, which Hasselbeck played in–and is the only reason she got into–college) and affirmative action for women. (She’s clearly benefited a lot from that, cuz she sure didn’t get where she is due to brains or talent.)

* She supports affirmative action for minorities based on race and ethnicity (except when it comes to her–me, me, me, me.)

* She attacked Rush Limbaugh as “a dream killer, a killer of dreams” (whatever that means).

* She attacked George Zimmerman, saying he was guilty. (Hey, just like David Horowitz!)

* She outed Federal Air Marshal Robert Thompson on live national TV.

Those are just a few of this vacant chick’s “views” that I can remember off the top of my head. I’ve written about many more of her dumbass comments over the years. (Incidentally, after I first criticized her many liberal positions and people raised the issue with Michelle Malkin–who has a lesbian superfan mancrush on Hasseldumb–Malkin attacked Hasseldumb’s “critics” (me), saying she’s “doing a great job” [on "The View"].)

Like I said, other than her claim to be pro-life, Elisabeth Hasselbeck’s views are the same as Barack Obama’s. In fact, she supported gay marriage and the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT) before Obama did, so she’s actually to the left of him.

So the next time you tell me that FOX News is the “only network we have,” who is we? It sure ain’t me. And you sure aren’t a conservative if you feel that way. Just gullible and easily fooled.

Elisabeth Hasselbeck is liberal. And clueless . . . until she gets her FOX News talking points (with none of which she actually agrees–see above).

**** UPDATE: One other thing I just remembered about the rodent-esque Elisabeth Hasselbeck: in her brief, failed experience as a “Good Morning America” contributor, she promoted parents allowing their teens to have sex at home. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Can’t wait ’til the Hasselbeck spoiled brats have sex at her house.

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She does not have any convictions. I guarantee she will agree with and ape the morning crew on Fox. A follower if there was ever one.

sanjay on July 9, 2013 at 11:46 pm

Oy vey, Debbie, what a list of STUFF!!! I don’t know much about her, but it’s no wonder you call her Hasseldumb. I’m SO glad I stopped watching FOX(y)-News a few years ago.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on July 9, 2013 at 11:57 pm

Damn! I knew she wasn’t the brightest bulb in the box but I didn’t know she was insanely liberal. Maybe she won’t last long unless Fox’s floor manager, the one constantly eyeing Gretchen up and down takes a liking to another “fine lookin’ piece of chicken.”

Alisia S on July 10, 2013 at 12:07 am

That perv keeps trying to look up Gretchen’s dress and has for years.

Alisia S on July 10, 2013 at 12:13 am

FNC is really hitting rock bottom if they are hiring the likes of her as a host.

Worry01 on July 10, 2013 at 12:16 am

    Latest comment…FNC would have to climb way up to hit rock bottom. They lie and are happy to do it. Hasselbeck sits in her whole dress playing the yes man. Or as I refer to her..The bobbing head. I don’t agree with her politics but FNC has no respect for the president and everyone should. Most of the garbled people say he should be hated for is bullshit.propagated by fox and the like

    terrybrown on May 16, 2014 at 7:23 pm

That may be why Gretchen is leaving? I know Kilmead made a remark to him on a similar topic recently concerning Fox’s AM weather gal, Maria.

Martin on July 10, 2013 at 12:17 am

I’ll be honest DS, I’m really not surprised that Elizabeth Hasselbeck got a gig at Fox News Channel and is going to be bounced off of that hag-fest show, The View.

And you are clearly right about all of the stuff you documented in the piece about where this woman exactly stands, they all sound left wing to me if ask me (Title IX has its pros and cons, not all of it is anti-male sports or anti-male to that magnitude).

Speaking of which everyone, a few weeks ago on facebook, I was having a discussion with one of my friends-friend and she said that she supports females playing sports with other males on the same team, and I told her that in sports, males compete against other males and females compete against other females, vice versa. This was a story of a girl who’s playing football and all of her teammates are males, and reports have claimed that her teammates were having lustful views of her, etc., and this woman on facebook who I was discussing with supports that girl playing football with her male teammates! And BTW, this woman who I had a conversation and supports that kid is a conservative, not a liberal!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on July 10, 2013 at 12:26 am

    No — she is NOT a Conservative. She’s just dumb!

    Dr. Mark on July 10, 2013 at 9:50 am

@Martin

You may be right though I doubt she would admit that’s part of the reason. A little info on Elisabeth a.k.a Tinkerbell, she once said publicly how “horny” she became after she got pregnant, “especially in the mornings.”

I’m like, HELLO, too much information, dingleberry!

Alisia S on July 10, 2013 at 12:40 am

It would be refreshing if the person responsible for the hiring at Fox News would think with their head instead of their dick when it comes to hiring. I’ve pretty much had my fill of their airheads, both female and male. I can barely stand to watch them any more, leaving, well, no choices.

Gary Welsh on July 10, 2013 at 12:43 am

Hello from deep in the outfield. In truth, I’ve never even heard of this chick before, but that pic makes her look truly smokin’ hot.
More’s the pity.

Joe Guiney on July 10, 2013 at 2:25 am

She likes it in the morning, huh? Hey, I’m a morning person too! Mornings are great as long as the only thing involved is sleeping, sex or bacon & eggs!

RT on July 10, 2013 at 3:22 am

Amen, Gary!

Alisia S on July 10, 2013 at 3:26 am

Selecting Elisabeth Hasselbeck to take Gretchen Carlson’s place is quite the kick in the teeth for other female replacement hosts and reporters on FNC. It is likely that Elisabeth Hasselbeck will receive a very cool reception from the other women there.

Worry01 on July 10, 2013 at 5:23 am

Nice list of accomplishments. Damn it if I can figure out how people like her end up with so much cash in their bank accounts, and other, much better people end up busting their humps to get by their entire lives. Kardashians also come to mind. Geez.

samurai on July 10, 2013 at 7:08 am

    The key thing will be her ratings. Also, she will get a very cold shoulder from her competitors.

    Worry01 on July 10, 2013 at 7:38 am

    The kardashians come to mind. Famous for a sex tape and having no redeeming qualities. As for hassleback, the eager we’ll trained reporters who worked so hard must be kicking their teeth wondering what they have too do to get a great gig.

    It is another example of the lowest common denominator. It is also an example of it being who you know, not what you know. Combined with it being better to be lucky than good.

    Glen benjamin on July 10, 2013 at 1:52 pm

Fox has been morphing into CNN Lite for some time now. The
Leprechaun’s support for the insane “immigration deformity” bill, and now Hasselbeck. Faux conservatives will blend in well with the likes of Juan Williams, Colmes, the seemingly ever-present McRino as the station disintegrates.

Why didn’t Fox simply hire that aging comedienne Joy Behar?
Garafalo? Rosanne Barr might need a platform, too — and
don’t overlook Cynthia McKinney!

Otto Schaden on July 10, 2013 at 7:54 am

The dumbing down of our country continues…….
Halfbrainbeck makes Mika the Moron look like Einstein. At least Mika can read, if only her required talking points and questions sent to her daily by the White House. She dutifully reads those notes on her desk before opening her mouth. Maybe Mika and Elizabeth could get together and make a sequel to “Dumb and Dumber.” Fake (Fox) News continues to sink into the mire of pop “Culture.” Perhaps if Ratface Spitzer fails to get elected comptroller in NYC, he could get a gig at Fox. However, NYC deserves the likes of client #9, along with Mr. Standup, Little Anthony Weiner.

Victoryman on July 10, 2013 at 9:13 am

The only silver lining is that this column and comments are very entertaining.

skzion on July 10, 2013 at 9:25 am

Hi Deb! I’ve read some of what you’ve written,and kinda stopped when EH as you’ve posted said,Muslims didn’t take down the World Tade Center Buildings! It was in my opinion Sharia Law Muslims who ordered the attack! It was Muslim men who Hijacked the planes! It was Muslim Terrorists who support Sharia Law take over of the world,who flew the jets into each target in NYC,Washington,PA field crash was result of Americans stopping it! I’m baffled by Americans who are afraid to Call the Muslim Religion under Sharia Law Imam Fanatics a Terrorist Political/Religious movement! Al religions have in their past abusive acts they were using to control the world!We Have Jacob upset over what Diah’s Brothers did to men from some tribe that raped dinah using words and acts to have her! Jacob had over zealous sons,but it was allowed and caused a wall of separation between Arab & Jew! Every religion looks on people as being created by a being of Spiritual Unmatched power! What a fiasco! I’ve been meaning to talk with The Creater about this Earthly system of Humans that were brought into being,There’s some explaining I want to hear! wallyworkswell@yahoo.com

williamwalter on July 10, 2013 at 9:38 am

Just like everyone else in the media and Hollywood, just a bunch of dummies.

The Chosen One on July 10, 2013 at 10:15 am

The only reason Hasselbeck stayed on “The Spew” as long as she did was because she is too stupid to articulately argue with the other hags. She will fit right in on “Fox & Friends” as they are ALL pretty dumb.Plus, I think everything they say is scripted for them, so she won’t be expected to think. In general, morning show hosts are expected to be attractive and affable, NOT smart, informed and articulate.

Since the only time I see any television in the AM is when I am caring for my elderly parents, I am quite ambivalent about who is doing what to whom and where.

DG in GA on July 10, 2013 at 10:22 am

I’m shocked! What are the chances of a blonde being hired at FOX?

Lars on July 10, 2013 at 10:46 am

I understand that the reporters on Fox were either threatened or paid off not to touch Barry s Birth Certificate FRAUD issue. Even after Sheriff Arpillo and Detective Zullo have all the evidence it was created with a computer and a complete fraud. But as usual the so called MSM have a complete blackout on it.

BOYCOTT FOX

Fred on July 10, 2013 at 10:47 am

Hasselbeck has all her bases covered. In an April 2007 edition of “Hannity and Colmes” she labeled herself a contemplative conservative/independent:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265864,00.html

COLMES: Have you always been a conservative?
HASSELBECK: You know, I’ve always been — you know, I consider myself a contemplative conservative. And my parents were independent. I never knew who they voted for. They really birthed in us a spirit of freedom of thought and just evaluating individuals. And that’s what I think people really need to do in this election, maybe not so much look at the party color or animal.
COLMES: I think we too often do judge people. Are you liberal or conservative? And then we judge people based on what their political philosophy is and not judge them as human beings.
HASSELBECK: I don’t define myself as conservative personally. I seriously don’t. I would hope that people wouldn’t do that to any of us here at the panel. You know…
COLMES: So does it bother you when they say, oh, the conservative on “The View”? Does that bother you?
HASSELBECK: Well, they can say what they want. I really am more concerned about how I define myself.

DT: She’s a liar. She always said on “The View” that her parents were and are bigtime liberals. She knows who they voted for. DS

Dave Turson on July 10, 2013 at 11:50 am

This is almost as funny as that other airheaded dunce Soledud O’Brien being hired by Al Jazeera America. Yuck! Anyway Debbie good job on Lizzie Hasselbeck’s stupidity over the years. This female version of Sean”Wallbanger”Hannity was a totally nitwit on The View. I mean come on being outsmarted by dopey yentas like Goldberg and Bahar makes her nothing if not a very dim bulb. Fox News seems bent on picking up the other networks scraps. I wonder what will happen when Al Sharpton’s show gets cancelled from PMSDNCNBC. Old Roger Dodger Ailes will probably snatch him up faster than you can say “Pass me that race card!”

Ken b on July 10, 2013 at 11:54 am

    They certainly would pick up Sharpie Sharpton, Ken. One of Bill O’Reilly’s favorite stories to tell for a while was the time he ate at Sylvia’s uptown with Sharpton. Instead of boycotting Sharpton, he has repeatedly had him on through the years, explaining that he is interested in his opinion.

    I’m glad I stopped watching Bill years ago, and a year later, stopped watching FOX(y)-News. Their web site is decent, makes you think they’re a lot more conservative than they are. But what they’re doing with their on screen personalities is unacceptable to anyone concerned about the truth or conservatism in general.

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on July 10, 2013 at 12:17 pm

This is one of the most hilarious pieces by Debbie I’ve read yet. Of course, the subject — Elizabeth Hasseldumb’s journalistic qualifications — was appalling. But it was funny all the same. Indeed, it was “laugh out loud” funny, as film critics might say.

Seek on July 10, 2013 at 12:00 pm

What was even funnier (in a peculiar if not ‘ha-ha’ / laugh-out-loud sense) was that when Hasseldumb’s departure from The View was announced, the party line was that her “conservative”[sic] views were considered too “unpopular” for the brain-dead audience that watches that show. Never mind that her stances on many issues (too many to truly count) as laid out here for all to see are anything but conservative, not even remotely. Or that some of her fellow View colleagues were even to the right of her on some occasions. I mean, how could supporting “gay” marriage be even remotely conservative? Or open borders? Or supporting Snoop Dogg / Lion? Or supporting Canada’s deportation of Ann Coulter? If that’s “conservative,” who needs liberals?

As Behar’s departure was announced at the same time as Hasseldumb’s, I would say there’s either MSLSD (as Mark Levin the fraud has called them) or Al Jazeera “America”[sic] (ex Current TV) for that aging yenta.

ConcernedPatriot on July 10, 2013 at 12:20 pm

We’re living in Idiocracy.

David on July 10, 2013 at 12:45 pm

It’s all about the money….nothing else, just the money. She stayed at ABC because of the money and was used as “eye candy” in contrast to the other hags on the View.

Same at Fox…nothing matters except the money.

RA2216 on July 10, 2013 at 1:39 pm

Fox is going down hill fast. They lose Megyn Kelly to maternity leave and pick up this air head. As you said she is a shoe designer who came in fourth on survivor. Her hubby was a failed QB in the pros and highly paid.

On survivor she was the scared rabbit who came in fourth. Amazing how the idiots on the view picked her over an educated hispanic attorney from the Midwest.

Now that she milked the view she gets picked up by fox. I feel bad for all the competent women who lost out to this woman. Than again as the saying goes. It is better to be lucky than good.

GB: Feminist Megyn Kelly (whose husband is stay-at-home Mr. Dad and “full time novelist”–hilarious!) ain’t so conservative herself, but she’s smarter than rodent-esque Hasseldumb. DS

Glen benjamin on July 10, 2013 at 1:44 pm

Hassleback should thank her stars she got the view gig. She could be making 50,000 plus as a graphic shoe designer. She is smart enough to stay at the view for years and now falls into the lap of Fox.

Being a dumb on air personality for a few hours a week for big money, beats graphic designing. One year on air is like ten years of designing. As I said, some people have good fortine smiling down on them.

Glen benjamin on July 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm

She’s stupid AND she looks like Mighty Mouse.

lexi on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 pm

I notice that ALL links retaining to what LH said or what LH did lead right back to this Liberal page. What a bunch of Bull Sh..!

Conrad 2013 on July 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Conrad, so this blog is liberal?!

    skzion on July 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm

      LOL! Maybe he thinks that Debbie’s blog is written in Doublespeak.

      DS_ROCKS! on July 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm

I give D.S. props, she backed up her accusations, which makes them facts. Before I read this article completely I was thinking ” what is D.S thinking calling E.Hass a liberal, but she backed it up. I like that. Many on here posting need to take notes, “Back your claims up!”

Big D on July 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm

“She’d be very upset if anyone taught her kids that Muslims perpetrated 9/11″

She’s right, it wasn’t Muslim terrorists on 9/11, they were Mennonites.

To call her an idiot insults the many idiots out there who manage to live quiet productive lives.

Windy Wilson on July 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm

A dumb show host is perfect for a dumb show, a dumb channel, and an audience of morons. Welcome to the American idiocracy!

Paul on July 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    You nailed it with this comment. And a year later where we are now it’s only gotten worse.

    terrybrown on May 16, 2014 at 7:25 pm

..actually, these two crewcut female congresscritters make Hasselbeck seem intelligent:

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/309829-dems-propose-historical-park-on-the-moon

Nick Fury on July 10, 2013 at 3:02 pm

anybody seen my narwhal

nigel the narwhal on July 10, 2013 at 3:06 pm

Well good riddance, she was making all my other favorite co-hosts on the view look stupid anyway.

jake49 on July 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm

This woman’s claim to fame is the 3rd loser on Survivor. She fit in with the other hens on the view. Bobwa Waltuhs pick for a conservative couldn’t be someone who was strong. But it didn’t take much to be stronger than those “ladies” (?, huh ?)on that show. Miss Debbie , you would have cleaned their clocks , had you been on there. But you wouldn’t have fit in with those witches. Sewage only looks good on liberals.

William on July 10, 2013 at 5:06 pm

A Gallup poll recently released found more Americans consider Fox News their main source for news than any other news outlet in the nation http://bit.ly/172f56r

Conrad 2013 on July 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    Conrad, I’m not sure if you’re a troll or just a total nitwit.

    skzion on July 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm

What a litany of disaster. What’s the point in being pro-life if you are going to be anti-Zimmerman, who was cleared by police but now faces a capital charge?

Kevin on July 10, 2013 at 5:33 pm

I knew she was a mental lightweight but this is ridiculous. I feel bad for the probable worthy people who she was chosen over.

Not Ovenready on July 10, 2013 at 10:40 pm

She is dumb.

I wish they would hire you. It would up the standard of women. Honestly, every night, its a pageant.

(OT: I think your new art is super)

The Mad Jewess on July 13, 2013 at 5:35 pm

Its hard to say for sure what hasseldumb believes. I’ve heard her say one thing and then change her mind when she is bombarded with bad press.

she’s just a douchebag….

lise on September 16, 2013 at 11:19 am

I can’t stand her voice. I can’t stand her squeaky mousey voice that grates my nerves. If she gets excited, she goes a mile a minute in that sqeeky high-pitched grating obnoxious voice and you can’t understand what the hell she is saying. She has to comment on everything when it’s best she shuts up. She constantly over talks people! She can’t just sit there and let someone speak, she has to smirk, smile, animate her face in a million cartoon characters. She is awful!!!!!!! AWFUL!!!!!!! What the hell Fox was thinking when they put her on Fox and Friends is beyond me. She is not BROADCAST JOURNALISM MATERIAL!!!!!!! I did not know she was a liberal. Another strike against this woman who should be doing voice overs for Saturday Morning Cartoons. Her hair is a mess, and she looks like Hell. She puts herself in that manner, because she knows she’s OVER HER HEAD! You got her Wrong Hannity… She is AWFUL!!!!!!

Dorothy Williams on October 23, 2013 at 11:15 am

Thank you for your contribution junior. You might have your caregiver read what was written to you. It could actually help you to come up with a more coherent response.

Worry01 on July 10, 2013 at 1:58 pm

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