July 26, 2013, - 7:42 pm

IMPORTANT: Help This Film on Polish Anti-Semitism, Complicity in the Holocaust & Israel-Hatred Get Made

By Debbie Schlussel

I want to introduce you to a very brave and courageous man, Aro Korol. Last year, after I wrote about Polish complicity in the Holocaust, this site was bombarded with hacking attacks and hate, and we had to take very expensive steps to protect it, as well as block the entire country of Poland. Still, every day, I receive anti-Semitic e-mails and comments from Poles. But one Pole, Aro Korol, from whom I heard, risked everything to tell the truth about his country, and I want you to help him.

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Aro is making, “Hitler’s Daughter,” a documentary film on Polish complicity in the Holocaust and modern-day anti-Semitism and Israel-hatred in Poland. Because he was an actor in “Schindler’s List,” Aro’s eyes were opened. But as a result of his work, he’s lost everything. He’s lost all of his friends in Poland and been forced to flee the country, where he can no longer live in safety. The Poles have even followed him to the United Kingdom and harassed him there. And it’s hard for him to keep a job, because he’s subject to the same kind of stalking visited upon George Zimmerman, by the many Poles who’ve targeted Aro. Aro’s own mother hung up on him. His courageous movie that needs to be finished and distributed throughout the West and–yes!–in Poland. If you watch the trailer, below, you’ll see why. He is risking everything to tell the truth, and it’s a truth that needs to be out there.

Watch the Whole Thing . . .

It’s rare that I tell readers about and ask them to support causes with their wallets. That’s because it’s rare that I find something as worthy as this–a film on Polish anti-Semitism and complicity in the Holocaust and how it relates to the modern-day boycott against Israel. I have no financial interest in this, though I’ve been added as a Co-Executive Producer of the movie because I am trying to help get this movie financed so it can be finished and distributed. My only interest is in helping Aro get “Hitler’s Daughter” out there. And I need you to help him get that done. Please donate to Aro’s Kickstarter campaign. Aro only needs $75,000 more to get this done. That’s not a lot in the movie biz.

This is an important cause–an important and powerful movie that Poles don’t want Aro to finish–and I ask you to help the world see the truth by donating to the Kickstarter campaign in any amount you can afford.

Thanks so much for your help.

More from Aro:

I am making this documentary because one day I woke up and realised I had been deceived my entire life. I had been deceived by the Polish school system, I had been deceived by the Catholic Church and I had been deceived by my fellow Polish citizens. With my documentary I aim to stop this deception, reach out to as many people as possible and put a stop to the Neo-Nazi movements that are emerging not just in Poland but throughout the world.






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My inspiration for this documentary has always been my involvement in the production of the Steven Spielberg directed film, “Schindler’s List”. Prior to being involved with this film I’d never even heard of The Holocaust. Working on the set as a 19 year old opened my eyes to facts that I previously had no knowledge of, facts that I started to explore further.

By exploring these facts further I discovered an anti-Semitic problem in Poland still exists and I want to do something to put a stop to it. I may not be able to change the world but I can expose the evil that hates the spotlight.
Important!

I don’t claim that Poland is an Anti-Semitic country because (among other things) the official position of Poland’s governments as well as the president of Poland is clear in this case. Officially Anti-Semitism is not tolerated. Yet I do see among Poles hatred. . . .

So time has come that an everyday, ordinary Polish guy like me should say STOP. Stop to those who are acting on behalf of the entire Polish nation and hate everything that is of foreign origin and sees conspiracy in everything.

It is time that a Pole takes a stand in this issue, not a Jew, not a famous movie director, but ordinary Polish man who is fed up with apologizing that he is a Pole and can begin to be proud of it. . . .

This film is important of historical reasons: we can’t let history repeat itself, of sociological reason: it is time that hatred toward Jews size to exist after almost 6000 years.

Please support this important movie. Visit the Hitler’s Daughter documentary website.

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In 1946, in Kielsi Poland, after the war, and the entire town and area being ethnically cleansed of all jews- holocaust survivors came back to kielsi ( starting in 1945).
There were about 150 or so jews and all their property, their homes, their lands had been confiscated and now taken over by Poles who might ask questions like ‘you still alive?, how?.
But no one got their homes back nor their land. So about 150 were housed in one building and in july 1946, a christian kid went missing, and reported he was captured by gypsies or jews, and the police forcibly entered to examine the basement where he said he was kept. There was no basement and no jew had anything to do with his disappearance. Nevertheless, 42 jews were slaughtered over this foul blood libel.
It was later proven to be utterly false, and 9 poles were sentenced for the slaughters. They blamed the communists but it was polish hatred, the arrogance of the blood libel-remember the jew has the strict blood prohibition in all foods
unlike christians- and yet they propagated the blood libel- the need to drink christian blood to allow for the hatred to live and propagate.

Imagine- you live thru the holocaust, go home, there’s no home, and they invent a blood libel to murder you and your children.

mgoldberg on July 27, 2013 at 11:18 am

You’d think that the Poles would put as much distance between themselves & anything REMOTELY Nazi-related, given how horribly the entire country was treated by them (the Nazis). It just goes to show that my namesake was right when he said,

“Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. If no use is made of the labors of past ages, then the world must remain in the infancy of knowledge.”…Marcus Tullius Cicero

Cicero's Ghost (NB) on July 27, 2013 at 12:14 pm

In 1968, there was the infamous “anti-Zionist” campaign instigated by the Polish state against the country’s remaining Jews. Most of whom were forced to leave.

Modern Polish history is filled with hatred for Jews both from the authorities and the man in the street. True, Poland suffered more terribly than any other country in Europe under the Nazi German aggression.

But that’s not the entire story – the country has a dark side to its history in its post-war treatment of the Jews that Poles do not want to confront. Blaming the Jews of course is a convenient way of deflecting attention away from the truth.

With anti-Semitism at levels unseen in recorded history around the world and in Poland, we must not continue pretending all of this is ancient history. We must put a complete stop to anti-Semitism and the culture of lies and hatred that fuels and sustains it from generation to generation.

I don’t know if “Hitler’s Daughter” is the answer to this contagion. But I know this film offers a chance at least to prevent it from spreading further! I commend Aro Karol for his very important work and I hope his film gets finished so that every one can see it – both in his native country and around the world!

And above all, I would like to extend to Debbie Schlussel my heartfelt congratulations in being named co-executive producer on this project! Someday, I would be privileged and proud to watch the fruit of Aro and Debbie’s collaboration. Most films don’t change people’s lives – and this is one film that could well be exceptional in making that happen! I urge every one to lend it their support.

NormanF on July 27, 2013 at 12:26 pm

I do not want my remarks to be construed in absolving Poland of its responsibility during the Holocaust!

I sought to point out the Poles persecuted the Jews even in the absence of German compulsion and this is important to note for the historical record. No one forced them to institute a pogrom against the Jews who returned to Kielce and no one ordered them to make their country unbearable for the few surviving Jews who still lived there.

They are documented historical facts. Persecuting Aro Karol and Debbie Schlussel will not make them disappear.

NormanF on July 27, 2013 at 12:37 pm

Polish people got kicked around pretty good not just by the Nazis but also Stalin who massacred them and yet still they remain horrendously anti-semitic in many cases.

It’s very unfortunate and I don’t understand why this is.

ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 27, 2013 at 12:39 pm

I’m curious about one thing. We know that the Poles, the Russians, the Germans all persecuted the Jews. Was that true about every Eastern European country, or just those?

What was the record of Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia (I’m listing the Yugoslav republics separately, since the Bosniaks had a division participating in the SS, whereas I don’t know what the Serbs did). Also, what was the record of the Baltic countries – Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia – before the Soviets overran them?

Infidel on July 27, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Infidel, you ask a good question and deserve a good answer.

    Czechoslovakia – During the war, Slovakia was a Nazi puppet state, and outdid the Nazis in cruelty towards the Jews. The Czech part of the country was treated horrendously by the Nazis, and for the most part did not help or hurt the Jews.

    Bulgaria – the people rose up and overthrew the government that wanted to slaughter the Jews. The Jewish population increased in Bulgaria during the war. However, Bulgarian soldiers rounded up the Jews of Salonica, who were virtually all killed.

    Serbia – Serbia suffered terribly during the War, but they did save 500 or so Jews. Croatia was a Nazi puppet state, and actively slaughtered Serbs and Jews, with great enthusiasm. Bosnia was and remains Muslims, and sided with Hitler, although there were a few, very few, Righteous Bosnians.

    Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. Lithuania was once one of the great centers of Jewish learning. 95% or higher of all Jews were killed, with extreme active participation and enthusiasm of the local population. Jewish girls were raped by people who had been their neighbors before they were killed.

    Romania had the black cross group, which actively rounded up and slaughtered Jews, often by bashing their heads in for sport.

    Hungary – Once there was effectively a Hitler inspired coup, the Hungarians rounded up and slaughtered about half the Jewish population there. In both Hungary and Romania, there is a great resurgence today of Nazism and anti-Semitism.

    Why? Well, for nearly 2000 years, the Catholic Church taught a hatred for the Jews, emphasizing the Jews killed Jesus (it was the Romans, but let’s not get facts get in the way of a good hatred). Additionally, Jews were barred from most professions and from owning land, and the only thing the kings would allow them, and sometimes force them to do was collect taxes and lend money. Not exactly popular jobs.

    The Jews also did two things that angered the local populaces. Even though Jews were forcibly kept behind locked doors at night in ghettos, they had a lower rate of death from the Black Plague and other plagues that swept Europe in the 1200′s – 1600′s, because of G-d’s admonition to wash and keep clean. Additionally, Jewish law’s kosher requirements lowered the risk of food borne diseases. This angered the populace, and they were told that the Jews spread the plagues. Again, the Jews were slaughtered.

    The Jews for the most part did not drink. Getting drunk is against Jewish beliefs (Remember the story about Noah?) While non-Jews spent their paychecks on alcohol, Jews saved, in spite of everything, and earned and to some degree, prospered under impossible conditions. This angered the non-Jews, who again launched pogroms (encouraged by the Church and the kings), killing, robbing, and raping. It is estimated that one out of two Jews ever born has been murdered.

    The Kings and Popes used Jews as scapegoats. While the governments were suppressing the peasants, the church and the ruling powers deflected anger and rebellions by blaming the Jews, and they helped spread stories of Jews using the blood of Christians for Matzoh at Passover, which, for those of you who do not know, is ridiculous because Jews are not allowed to drink the blood of an animal.

    With the invention of the printing press, and the coming of the Enlightenment, and most importantly, the birth of the United States, overt anti-Semitism receded, (with the exception of Eastern Europe, where people were still oppressed by governments, where the people were still illiterate, and where the Orthodox Churches preached, and still preach, that the Jews killed Jesus).

    Europe and the Arab countries are more overtly anti-Semitic everyday, and Obama says and does nothing except to appoint a JINO Democratic hack to a government dog and pony position on anti-Semitism.

    The dark clouds are descending on the Jews again.

    Jonathan E. Grant on July 27, 2013 at 6:05 pm

      I agree with everything you’ve said here.

      Communism temporarily held in check the local demons but with its demise, the old hatreds have resurfaced in Russia and much of eastern Europe.

      The difference now is there are too few Jews in Europe to be visible targets for anti-Semites and Israel haters.

      Still, the foul dark cloud smothering the Jewish future looks like its back to stay for good! I’n not really optimistic this documentary will truly change people’s minds.

      People see what they want to see.

      NormanF on July 27, 2013 at 10:53 pm

      Jon, I have to mention one element not present in your history.

      If Israel is destroyed today, half of world Jewry is gone with it. (Eerily echoing the 50% murder rate of Jews historically.) But then, if Israel is destroyed, that will be due to the political games being played by the elite stratum regarding the Muslims, coupled with the gullible and passive Israeli mass.

      And, it’s not unprecedented. It is a commonplace that there was plenty of information anticipating the Holocaust in Europe, but the Jews were told by their elites not to get out. It’s true that they would have to have found place(s) to go, but Jews have managed this many times.

      I can know about such events because they are well documented. But really, what of other events less documented? Why exactly have Jews been “wandering” since the last destruction of the Temple? Why was it deemed better to be an endangered minority somewhere rather than set up shop as a majority elsewhere?

      No, I think Jews have to take some responsibility for their vulnerability.

      skzion on July 28, 2013 at 3:08 pm

      Aren’t you grateful for the Arab spring?
      Isn’t that enough for you?

      I don’t think you give either maybe yourself or Obama enough credit J.E.D

      ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm

      I feel like I stepped into the nightmarish world of Jack T. Chick. Waiting to hear next how Catholic leaders manipulated the Arabian tribesman Mohammed into creating the religion of Islam to use as a weapon against the Jews and to conquer Jerusalem for the pope.

      Anyway, much thanks to Debbie Schlussel for this great article.

      Dan Mesa/AZ on July 30, 2013 at 12:07 am

        my reply was to Jonathan Grant’s response

        Dan Mesa/AZ on July 30, 2013 at 12:09 am

This will be a need to see movie for sure. Another need to see movie is Obsession – Radical Islam’s War Against The West.

Red Randy on July 27, 2013 at 2:47 pm

I would not know about Polish anti-semitism if not for that infamous incident last year on this website. My eyes were open, then.

In 2011 when I went to Philly I saw a play about Poland and Jews (I think it was called “The Class”) at The Wilma and I really loved it. Perhaps if I had known more about Poland I would have gotten even more out of it.

I wonder if that play was of the incident MGoldberg described in his post (I really like his posts!)? I know it was of something very similar.

I’d like to give to this film. I wish it could be more at this time but I will transfer my monthly tithe for this film. It sounds exciting.

Skunky on July 27, 2013 at 5:26 pm

I just pledged 10 lbs. Felt damn good, too.

DS_ROCKS! on July 27, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    I pledged too. I better get that shirt!

    skzion on July 28, 2013 at 9:46 pm

Jonathan, thanks for such a comprehensive answer! :)

Infidel on July 28, 2013 at 12:23 am

Norman, Communism had its own Jew hatred. It started mainly w/ the Stalin-Trotsky war of succession, and that seemed to fuel anti-Semitism amongst the Soviets. However, Soviet anti-Semitism was somewhat masked in the Soviets’ larger war on religion.

Until 1956, when the Soviets were trying to win over Israel to the Communist bloc, anti-Semitism seemed to have abated, but resumed once they decided to switch sides and support Nasser. But the record of the Soviets – forcibly preventing Russian Jews from leaving – was venal in its own right.

Infidel on July 28, 2013 at 12:33 am

WWII broke out when Germany invaded Poland.
It’s disgusting that so much was invested in saving Poland when they were not that much better than their invaders.
Side note: the same day Germany invaded Poland, the Soviet Union invaded Poland too.
So a war is started to save Poland from the German invaders yet we make the other Poland invaders one of our Allies.
Some day after the all of the romanticism about us saving the world from the evil Nazis has faded we’ll see that the people we saved and the people that fought beside us were not that different from the evil Nazis.

Steve G. on July 28, 2013 at 12:51 am

    Hello Steve G.

    Or we could learn that both sides in WW2 did terrible, ungodly things. Hadn’t Stalin killed millions of Ukrainians in his man-made famines and Kulak “purges” before WW2 even began?

    I know those deaths have no political weight at all, but don’t they matter very much to the Creator of life?

    sue on July 28, 2013 at 4:18 am

      “Or we could learn that both sides in WW2 did terrible, ungodly things.”

      So, sue the pom finally shows her hand so clearly that I am awed. Only an ignoramus or a villain would say that “both sides” in the Israel-Fakestine conflict do bad things. But to frame WW2 in such terms is despicable.

      skzion on July 28, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Steve G,

    You’re wrong on both counts.
    First the war was not started to save Poland. Hitler had already started fighting long before Poland was invaded.
    England declared war to prevent Europe falling to Hitler, not specifically to save Poland although this was the declared objective.
    This is obvious to anybody who has ever really thought about it.
    Anyway, Hitler would have invaded France whether war was declared or not.

    So here you have a causality argument which ignores the main cause of the war and makes England responsible simply because she made it official.
    This is a very common and defective line of reasoning among many pacifist apologists today. The bloodshed of WWII might have been avoided and Hitler contained if people like Chamberlain had been shown to be delusional before events made it obvious. So most of the blood is on the hands of people who thought like you Steve G.

    Second the Poles while they may have been anti-semitic but they were not the 3rd Reich. In fact the Nazis can be seen as a kind of catalyst which allowed all the worst aspects of human behavior to come to the forefront in all countries that came under their control. The fact is they actively encouraged race enmity in all lands they occupied.

    “Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood clean from my hand?” No Steve it won’t.

    ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 5:52 am

      Thank you Ty(etc) for noting that Poland was not the Third Reich. In the world of What Actually Happened that is true. However, in the Official Media Version of the war, I am not so sure.

      sue on July 28, 2013 at 7:53 am

      Actually, the Poles did not have the brain power to do what the Nazis did. The Poles are peasants with genetic low intelligence. Think the Jukes and the Kallikaks.

      Poles imbibe anti-Semitism in their mothers’ milk. It is simply part of them. The country of Poland will ALWAYS be sub-par due to their primitive culture and, again, low intelligence.

      Poles and Poland are to be avoided at all cost. Losers.

      lexi on July 28, 2013 at 1:09 pm

        Is there is a bit of a When Stereotypes Collide situation here Lexi?

        Yes, we were, in the official version, all as thick as two short planks. Here, for example, is a quote from John Radzilowski’s “Poles in Minnesota”:

        In it he says:
        “”The 1970s represented a kind of watershed for Poles in Minnesota… Nationally, the entertainment industry and media singled out Polish Americans for stigmatization, and stores across Minnesota carried bigoted “Polish joke” products that were widely used. Because they had little mainstream media presence, many Polish Americans,especially young people, internalized these stereotypes. If students did not keep quiet, they faced harassment and abuse from classmates
        and sometimes even teachers. With the Polish White Eagle Association,this stigmatization led to occasional pressures to remove the word “Polish” from the group’s name as early as the 1960′s.”
        (Poles in Minnesota, John Radzilowski, Minnesota Historical Society Press, pp.67-68)

        But nowadays, I think we are officially the Evil Masterminds behind the Nazi Reign of Terror in Europe.

        I’m not sure how we can be both, but in the mad world of Political Correctness it might be possible.

        Poland is simply one of the kingdoms of the world. And aren’t they all going to be destroyed by the incoming Kingdom of God when the time comes?

        Daniel 2:44 promises us this: “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite.”

        Has any one of God’s promises ever failed?

        They never have, and they never will.

        sue on July 28, 2013 at 4:47 pm

          I just wondered aloud what was taking the Muslims so long regarding UK. The great benefit of a Muslim UK is no more sue. This is nothing to scoff at.

          skzion on July 28, 2013 at 4:52 pm

      ty, you’ve now been thanked by sue the pom. I hope you are worried.

      Your defense of the Poles is unfounded. As Debbie (and others) have already pointed out, Poles have a history of quite extraordinary anti-Semitism, before, during, and after WW2. One cannot explain this constant with a variable (the existence of Nazi Germany).

      Basically, Jews could get along in Poland if Polish elites protected them. When such elites (mainly) joined the attack, the Jews were annihilated.

      There is a reason why those living in Poland have been banned in toto from this site.

      skzion on July 28, 2013 at 3:33 pm

      On the day before Germany invaded Poland, Stalin already had killed 10′s of millions of his own people. Hitler, you would be hard pressed to prove he had killed 10′s of thousands of his own people at that time. Mainly disabled and criminals.
      Yes, we knew Hitler was a nut-job, but we have ignored and even backed lots of nut-jobs through out American history.
      So why did we fight Hitler and embrace Stalin. Stalin wanted to take over Europe also and he did just that after WWII, enslaving all of Eastern Europe.
      My point is simply that if you add up the numbers and evaluate carefully all of the players at the time of the invasion of Poland it made no sense for a world wide war to break out.

      And looking at Europe today with its low indigenous birth rate, the millions of natives killed in the World Wars and the high birth rate of the Muslim invaders and seeing that in a few generations Western civilization will be extinct in Europe.
      I can only say that extinction is not a definition of success. No matter how righteous you may feel the cause was.

      Steve G. on July 28, 2013 at 11:33 pm

        @Steve G.,
        The fact that recent generations have squandered the freedom that many fought and died in WWII to preserve has nothing to do with whether or not they made the right choice standing up to tyranny.
        They at least bought a few generations free of totalitarianism.
        People like you bought nothing and know nothing except how to cover your ass.
        It won’t work because tyrants eat people like you up for breakfast.

        You spout your meaningless trash here over and over again as if the logical inconsistencies were irrelevant because they are irrelevant to idiots like you and that other idiot Red Rider. Maybe because you are one and the same idiot.

        ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 30, 2013 at 2:50 pm

I’m sure it will get made Debbie, and be much lauded and applauded, as it is so in line with the Zeitgeist. These days the Evil Axis Powers seem to be Poland, Poland and Poland.

My dear aged father escaped from his internment camp and made a mad scramble across Europe to rejoin the fight against Hitler in the UK. The Polish Forces there made a significant contribution to the Allied victory.

Their reward? Betrayal the moment the war ended, and vilification ever since.

Have Poles been deceived by the Catholic Church? Well, without wishing to hurt anyone’s feeling, I can say that I was. I was a Catholic Convent schoolgirl from the age of 4 to the age of 18. I don’t want to say that any of the nuns and priests who taught me deliberately taught me wrongly. They had no idea what the Inspired Scriptures say, as they had not been taught themselves.

I do find this constant pressure to make a Stalin-style denunciation of my dear aged father very painful. Of course I do. But there is a big silver lining – much bigger than the cloud.

The world tells me to denounce and despise my father. But the true God tells me to honour my parents.

I loved my parents very much. So who am I drawn to?

Its not, as Basil Fawlty, would say, a proposition for Wittgenstein.

God’s word truly is a beacon shining in a dark dark place. I am so grateful for it.

Ever single day there is something to make me even more grateful.

sue on July 28, 2013 at 3:43 am

    Hmmmm, Sue The Pom, I can’t be the only one here that sees under your sunny, south coast, Holly Hobbie, precious Holy Roller kindly, sweet and matronly facade is a VERY dark soul. Oh, to scratch off that gentle patina of FAKERY you put forth. Darkness, darkness indeed.

    You’re rather oblique, purposefully. Just spit out what you’re trying to say because I don’t get it.

    But then again, I think I do.

    Funny, Sue The Pom, I rather prefer the you that is pitch and not so sweet. Not because I agree with it but because that is your TRUTH.

    And I’d know the truth…pitch and rotten as it is.

    Skunky on July 28, 2013 at 10:49 am

      WELL, Skunky, it sure seems that sue the Pom is shedding tears for … the Poles, who have been, alas, sadly maligned to this day.

      You picked up on her from the first.

      skzion on July 28, 2013 at 2:56 pm

        (That was me. Put in wrong email.)

        skzion on July 28, 2013 at 2:57 pm

      As I acknowledged Skunky, I am upset by this constant vilication of my dear aged father. Do you think therefore that I ought to write in an angry and abusive way about it?

      How can I do that while keeping God’s command to keep “the law of loving-kindness” on my tongue?

      Besides, it would be very ungrateful. The teaching I am getting is so wonderful. At the Kingdom Hall this morning, the Watchtower study article contained and discusses Jehovah’s command that we should honour our parents.

      It was like a hand reaching out to comfort me, and I came away feeling full of joy. So I really really want to do things Jehovah’s way, and not “the worlds”.

      And doesn’t He ask us to treat everyone with kindness and respect?

      sue on July 28, 2013 at 4:57 pm

        Sue The Pom, you are NOT fooling me. Your sort scare me more than the openly hostile.

        I got your number, Ms. Pommie. And I will continue to point it out as long as it is germane.

        Again, Sue The Pom, show us the REAL you. I can see it but I want you to wear it on your sleeve. You’re a fraud, a phony, a wuss and inhumane. I knew it the first time you tried to lump we Christians all in together…and I stood up and told you NOT to speak for me.

        I got your number…and it ain’t a good one, Sue The Pom.

        Skunky on July 28, 2013 at 6:11 pm

        Sue the Pom sez:

        “As I acknowledged Skunky, I am upset by this constant vilication [sic] of my dear aged father. Do you think therefore that I ought to write in an angry and abusive way about it?”

        Well, if you’re asking for opinions, I think you should vamoose. I am sick of your proselytizing and your willful refusal to acknowledge and reject that which is manifestly evil. Are we supposed to avoid the truth because your “dear [not to me] aged father” is Polish and a possible collaborator? Ridiculous. Also, you’re a pest (fittingly, derived from the Latin “pestis,” a “deadly contagious disease; a curse, bane”).

        Your refusal to acknowledge evil in the world and to “take sides” against it is contemptible. While I don’t know the Jehovah’s Witness doctrine, I am aware of no Christian doctrine that is consistent with your own behavior.

        skzion on July 28, 2013 at 7:07 pm

          Yep, too right Skzion. At one point I thought Sue The Pom was just a mild-mannered Brit but then she started cozzying up to nasty Moooooslims who were trolling here…and that was on the thread where she lumped in all Christians together and openly stated she would not stand up against the Moooooslims (or anyone) against the Jews. I saw her Windex-clear that day.

          So why would someone like that come here daily and read DS’ columns then? Yep, for an above-the-waistline wank. It offends me because I take the reportage here VERY seriously.

          And since then the compulsion to confess can’t contain itself in STP. Just because she can’t see her bad-self clearly does not mean that others can’t.

          Skunky on July 28, 2013 at 7:21 pm

          Exactly, Skunky. What really is Sue the Pom’s (STP’s) point even being here? Yes, she proselytizes, but as she stands for nothing, and as this crowd is not exactly good material for conversion anyway, how could she possibly be effective? But if she is not effective here, why does she continue?

          STP! I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: elastic bandages for your knees and 3 ibuprofen! Then get out and pound that pavement closer to home! Try the Muslim areas in UK. Tons o’ them!!

          skzion on July 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm

          Good morning skzion – as I think I have said before, I hope that if Debbie no longer wants me to comment on her site she will say so. She has my email address obviously. Its her site, and its up to her. And if she doesn’t want me commenting here, then of course I won’t.

          She has been kind and tolerated me so far. But I will understand if she no longer wants to.

          I don’t read or comment on most threads – only some of them. This one I saw as a Polish media issue. I try to tackle one a month. There has been no shortage of issues.

          It is has given me some wonderful opportunities to witness, and that helps me not to become bitter and angry about it; and also I feel that to honour my dear father, I need to say something.

          Whether I agree with Debbie or not – and sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t – she is always interesting, and she can write.

          You call my father “a possible collaborator”. He was a Polish paratrooper, who managed to make it across Europe just, only just, ahead of the advancing German armies, and he got across to the UK to rejoin the fight against Hitler.

          As I said, his reward was a brutal betrayal the moment the war ended and vilification ever since.

          Now he is “a possible collaborator”…

          sue on July 29, 2013 at 2:49 am

If we try to hide our history,we jeopardize our view of history,our present condition of who we are! I’m Moravian,we have or had according to some church elders A Moravian Brotherrly Agreement! If it has been suspended,that doesn’t mean it was never in existence! Being truthful to our own heart will insure our being respectful to others!

williamwalter on July 28, 2013 at 10:36 am

    Hello William – what is – or was – a Moravian Brotherly Agreement?

    sue on July 28, 2013 at 11:09 am

About making a donation to this movie. With all the Jewish organizations why aren’t they giving Aro the money??? What about Steven Spielberg and other Jewish film makers? They have millions upon millions and $75K is chump change to them. When I see convincing answers to the above questions I will make a donation.

Robert A. on July 28, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Robert A., I am surprised that a regular would even be asking this question. Most Jewish organizations and film makers are leftist sympathizers with Jewish enemies. There has been collusion between the Jewish Establishment and the Poles since WW2. Read what I wrote about Jewish elites above.

    I’ve already pledged. Debbie’s word is good enough for me when I already agree with the premise of the movie.

    skzion on July 28, 2013 at 3:13 pm

      Skzion, I keep a careful eye on “Robert A”. He knows why. And you pointed out one of the reasons WHY I do.

      Also, “Ty…” is Frank Z. I am surprised people don’t pick up on it. I have from the get-go. Just sayin’.

      Skunky on July 28, 2013 at 6:14 pm

        must be the typos skunky ;)

        ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 6:23 pm

        FWIW, Skunky, I know that ty is Frank Z. Frank, why do you keep changing your nick? From Frank Z. to Migraine Boy, to Stupid Boy, now to this. You seem like a good enough fellow. Why do you not stand by your words by posting under a consistent nick? No offense.

        skzion on July 28, 2013 at 6:52 pm

          I agree with you 100%, Skzion. Frank Z., I liked your nom de guerre when it was “Frank Z”. No need to keep changin’ it. You have worthwhile things to say and contribute.

          Skunky on July 28, 2013 at 7:11 pm

          there were issues i won’t go into, anyway you know who i am so it’s fine. not trying to disassociate myself from myself.

          ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 7:48 pm

          thanks skunky

          ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    will you connect Korol with Spielberg?

    Josh on July 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm

Antisemitism does not make any sense. Jesus was a Jewish man and people who do not like the Jewish people bow down and pray to him. Go figure.

And the greatest Christian songs like White Christmas and Easter Parade were written by Irving Berlin who was Jewish.

Also why refer to the Jewish people as Jews? This offends me. Just like calling the Japanese people Japs.

Fred on July 28, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Skzion I didn’t defend Polish antisemitism except to say that it was not on the level of Nazi antisemitism.
That’s not much of a defense because nothing is on the level of Nazi antisemitism.

Germany was a modern cultured nation that gave many Jews a sense of identity so strong that some still considered themselves to be German even after the Holocaust.
Germany demonstrated how catastrophic the failure of a modern industrialized nation can be.
This is the principal danger to my mind.
Europe has enjoyed a long slow leisurely decline in the comfort and security provided by what once was the world greatest super power.
Those days are now rapidly approaching their conclusion I believe.

ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    “Skzion I didn’t defend Polish antisemitism except to say that it was not on the level of Nazi antisemitism. That’s not much of a defense because nothing is on the level of Nazi antisemitism.”

    ty, you’re a good fellow, but you did indeed defend the Poles in regards to anti-Semitism. Here’s what you said:

    “Second the Poles while they may [NB] have been anti-semitic but they were not the 3rd Reich [True by definition, but the relevant issue was the anti-Semitism, not the means of implementing it.]. In fact the Nazis can be seen as a kind of catalyst [The Poles needed no catalyst.] which allowed all the worst aspects of human behavior [This means that Polish Jew-hatred was merely "human" not specifically a hatred common in certain groups like the Poles.] to come to the forefront in all countries that came under their control. [But there were differences even in the countries occupied by the Nazis. There were differences in the Axis as well.] The fact is they actively encouraged race enmity in all lands they occupied.[Why of course the Germans did. But some complied with especial glee and perseverance.]“

    skzion on July 28, 2013 at 7:18 pm

      Szion didn’t get chance to give this the attention it deserves but here goes…

      There where Poles such as Jan Karski though. If he had any contemporaries amongst the German intelligentsia I’m not aware of them.

      [True by definition, but the relevant issue was the anti-Semitism, not the means of implementing it.]
      This is not so easy to separate because it was exactly the way antisemitism was elevated to an act of devotion to the state/Hitler that gave it a different quality under the Nazis.
      Also the mechanized and bureaucratic way the Jews were eliminated in Germany is not so easy to separate from their National character.
      The way antisemitism was hammered into the Hitler youth. The effective use of propaganda to this end.
      Here the issue for me is not that the Germans had the sophistication to do these things but that they had the will to do them.

      [The Poles needed no catalyst.]
      Every pogrom needs a catalyst even if it is jar of spilled jam.
      If pogroms did not need to be triggered then they would have been more or less constant throughout history but this is not what you see if you look at the record.
      There where periods of relative tranquility between them.

      [But there were differences even in the countries occupied by the Nazis. There were differences in the Axis as well.]
      That’s true but there where also differences in how territories where governed. Hitler left this pretty much up to those who where delegated the responsibility.
      It is not entirely a matter of the character of the people in countries controlled by the Nazis.
      Greiser the organized hood in charge of Poland prided himself on being a fanatical racist even by Nazi standards.
      There is a quote I wish I could remember how it goes but it’s something to the effect that under Hitler “every village nobody now considers himself expert in matters he has never understood”.
      This says a lot about where the real source of Adolf Hitler’s personality cult lay.
      I think Hitler’s Chaplinesque everyman quality is often overlooked and misunderstood to be something only ridiculous.
      If this operating in Germany it may most certainly have been the case elsewhere.

      ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 29, 2013 at 5:40 pm

      *were delegated*

      ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 29, 2013 at 5:42 pm

sorry I should have responded your post directly

ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    No problem.

    skzion on July 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm

I love that movie poster, too. I really hope this gets made.

DS_ROCKS! on July 28, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    I’ll be amazed if it isn’t DSR.

    sue on July 28, 2013 at 7:51 pm

I’d like to recommend a book to everybody that came out around 2003: “A Match Made In Hell” the war memoirs of Morris Goldner who at 16 was uprooted from his family farm in Poland, escaped the Nazis, and spent the war in partnership with the most notorious criminal in Poland, basically as a saboteur. A gripping read, and filled with interesting, little-known details about that period. The time right after the war “ended” was almost worse in some ways than the war itself.

Joe Guiney on July 28, 2013 at 8:28 pm

Thanks Debbie, for a balanced article and the video. I was not aware of the anti-semetic feelings present in modern day Poland.

Anti-semetism is here. I attended a church here in Detroit once, but could not return after the sermon attacked non-christians and Catholics. None of his attacks were supported by Jesus’ teachings. I said to myself, “When is he going to bring up Jews?”

Months later I spoke to one of his congregation and asked him what he thought of Jews, since I never heard the pastor’s opinion. He told me, “All Jews will go to hell, because they have not accepted Jesus.” I challenged him to a debate, giving him ample opportunity to review a book in the New Testament.

I don’t agree with Obama on many things, but this quote could use the addition of religion, “Am I judging people as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin, but the content of their character?”

Maybe he was afraid of re-opening the Jeremiah Wright door;-).

Visteo on July 29, 2013 at 1:22 pm

I have been thinking about this today while studying and feel that if Skunky and skzion really feel so strongly about my posting, I ought to stop. I might PM Debbie occasionally though. I do want to monitor the progress of this film to see if I am right about the state of the Zeitgeist, or not.

And Visteo, before I go, the Biblical Hell – “Sheol” in the Hebrew Scriptures, “Hades” in the Christian Greek – is simply the ground, the grave, where the dead sleep in complete unconsciousness awaiting a resurrection into the restored earthly Paradise.

And we are promised there will be a resurrection of both “the righteous and the unrighteous”.

sue on July 29, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    Sue don’t take it so personally everybody argues their side pretty strongly here.

    ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 29, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Cry me a river, Sue.

    skzion on July 29, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    Manipulative and phony Sue The Pom,

    You can take this to the bank. I don’t want you banned. I don’t roll like that. If I would not want a cha-cha-chimpanzee banned or a lonely Anthony Weiner wannabe with a fetish for haggy, old Martha Stewart (one freak, really) why would I petition for you to be banned? I’m not a phony like you.

    I am just pointing out your sneaky, fraudulent ways. It’s fun because it’s germane and not because I like to hound you just to be a jerk. I am taking YOUR words and ideas and showing that they just don’t gel and that a perspicacious sort can drive a locomotive thru’ them.

    You’re part of an annoying phenomena in 2013 (and some trolls here also…)…the kinda fraud that pretends you’re one thing when you’re not. You kick against this site a tic but mostly you hide behind what you really feel and really are. But your compulsion to confess does ooze out…it can’t be helped, really.

    I’m a tree who loves the ax when it comes to that. It annoys me but I like taking it on at the same time. I hate the phonies but the thrill of dismantling them (you) is too tantalizing to resist.

    Stay all you want. If you can’t defend or stop the seeping wounds from your own sloppiness that’s YOUR cross to bear.

    Skunky on July 29, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Sue, I am one who wishes to unite, so do not take this in the wrong light.

    Could you please explain, “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of G*d, but you yourselves thrown out.” Look at Luke 13, then explain the “unrighteous” ressurection and where you learned about it.

    I’m not sure how you got the pom added to your name. To be of Polish descent does not make you anti-semetic. They call other Jews anti-semetic here. Don’t let them hurt your feelers.

    Visteo on July 29, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Oh brother! POM stands for “prisoner (of) mother england”.

It’s mostly used by Australians in a wisenheimer way to reference denizens of the UK. But it can also apply for Yanks as well since we told them where to go (quite rightly!)centuries ago.

I’m gonna put it out there for Americans to pick up if they wish.
It’s familiar in Oz but it should also be familiar in USA, too!!

Skunky on July 29, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    LOL – I actually learned something from Skunky. I thought it had something to do with Pogrom.

    Visteo on July 29, 2013 at 7:11 pm

@ Lexi
Lexi(brain no flexi), you live in denial ,you are mentally ill.Verbal diarrhea coming from your pie hole

reeks through computer screen,you need” pronto” medical attention and should be promptly medicated.There are some recommendations for you.

-Better brand of mouth wash.

-John Deere weed whacker (for yours pubic bush,pit arms,legs and crack hair)

-Odor control “Always” Maxi Pads

-Canesten cream+pill for plastic yeast infection

-Selsun blue for your dandruff

Ariela G. on July 29, 2013 at 6:30 pm

Debbie –
In terms of presenting the truth, Aro Korol’s trailer potraits the Polish antisemitism as honestly as the movie “Gone with the Wind” portraits the realities of slavery in the 19th century America (the movie depicted the black slaves as happy and docile house servants whereas Mr Korol (and you) depict Poles as a bunch of stupid, blood-thirsty and revengeful folks dreaming of killing the Jews..

Instead of tracking down the Polish anti-semitism from Detroit, I suggest you come to Poland and see with your own eyes what it looks like. Then come back to America and mention on this blog all the cases, when you were offended during your visit by Poles for being a Jew. It’s a deal?

Zedd from Poland

Zedd on July 30, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Zedd, I see you have managed to bypass the ban on all Poles from Poland. This ban arose because of your countrymen acting with precisely the villainy that Debbie claimed ahead of time.

    I wouldn’t spend a dime in your country. The good thing about the Soviet Union was that it kept Poland under its thumb.

    skzion on July 30, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Have you see this film to make such an assumption?

    Josh on July 30, 2013 at 7:23 pm

While I agree that for the most part, the Poles in WWII were
largely anti Semitic, there were hundreds of thousands of
Poles and Eastern Eoropean Christians who paid with their
lives to protect the Jews of Europe.

We all know about Oskar Schindler and Raoul Wallenberg, but
what about the untold thousands of European Christians who
were executed by the Nazis for harboring runaway Jews?

My opinion is the result of a Kindle binge of some 30+ titles
on the subject of the Holocaust. Nobody even knows the names
of the poor Polish and Ukrainain farmers who harbored Jews.

If caught by the Nazis, they were all killed, Of those Jews
who survived, maybe one in a thousand wrote a biography.

I have read about 10 of these biographies. These Christans
who harbored Jews in WWII are the unsung heroes of WWII.

I see these people in the same light as I see Christian con-
servatives today. There is no better friend of the Jewish
people and the state of Israel than modern Christians.

I have no dog in this fight. I am an Atheist.

Please dear lady give al due praise to the exceptions who
risked their lives to protect the Jews.

Leonard Jones on July 31, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    Mr Jones–Well stated.

    Joe Guiney on August 1, 2013 at 11:34 am

    Mr. Jones,

    The number of Jewish people killed by my fellow Polish doing WWII was much higher then the number of Jews that were rescued. Poles who helped Jews where hated by the majority and punished by other Poles. Sometimes murdered only because the helped Jews.

    Oskar Schindler saved Jews of course but this does not mean that the Germans where innocent.

    The difference is that the new generation of Germans loudly condemned their fathers in the 60′s while in Poland even today people live in denial.

    I had enough of it and I want to speak loudly so I am not part of the problem but part of the solution.

    There more Poles like myself.

    Aro Korol on August 4, 2013 at 6:57 am

Leonard and Joe, please review the columns I have linked to below so that we don’t all have to revisit, yet again, the behavior of Poles in Poland.

Leonard, you say, “I see these people in the same light as I see Christian conservatives today. There is no better friend of the Jewish people and the state of Israel than modern Christians.” Ah, but there is a huge difference, as “Christian conservatives” are a majority of Christians (in this country). No way can one say the same about Poles.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/50114/poles-were-complicit-in-holocaust-outrage-over-obama-gaffe-is-fraudulent-ignorant/

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/50359/cyberpogrom-from-poland-why-debbieschlussel-com-was-down-3-days/

skzion on August 1, 2013 at 5:34 pm

Traveling around the world, there has been no more overt anti-semetic country than Poland. Sad to say, but the souvenir stands sell jewish pictures with the enlarged noses and other trinkets.

The uncomfortable feeling is palpable. How are they so hateful when only a few thousand Jews still reside there. Odd. People need to know the truth and stop treating Poland like a modern ‘enlightened’ country. To generalize, they are as ignorant as they come.

Please help this film ‘Hitler’s Daughter’ to come to fruition.

ari lucas on August 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm

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