September 17, 2013, - 3:12 pm

Is America Just Incompetent? Aaron Alexis Case Just Another Example of Our Desperate-But-Not-Serious Govt

By Debbie Schlussel

So let me get this straight: a guy who had mental problems, said he was hearing voices, claimed to have PTSD, had repeated incidents of misconduct while in the Navy (EIGHT of them!), and was arrested twice in recent years over gun issues, is not only honorably discharged from the Navy but gets secret security clearance to go back to work on a Navy base. HUH?????

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Is America just incompetent? Just not serious about national security or even just the security of our servicemen on military bases? It sure looks like that’s the case. Otherwise, how do you explain the access and security clearance that Navy Yard assassin Aaron Alexis had? How do you explain that he was assigned to begin work at the Navy Yard? How does this happen?






On the other hand? How did Nidal Malik Hasan happen? How did Edward Snowden happen? Clearly, we are a nation that is desperate but not serious about national security, about background checks for men and women given access to high-security information and government and military installations. The Pentagon increased security on military bases after Hasan’s jihadist massacre at Fort Hood. But the increased security is useless if guys like Alexis are given carte blanche credentials for easy entry to those bases.

And if Alexis, Hasan, and Snowden can get easy access to bases and secret and top secret information, so can Al-Qaeda (for whom Hasan was basically working). And that’s probably happening as you read this.

We are clearly a nation of clowns, of Keystone Kops. Our Swiss-cheese-porous borders indicate that, Hasan indicated that, Snowden indicated that. And, now, Alexis indicates that.

The question is: what are we gonna do about it? Answer: nothing. A buncha Republicans will grandstand (Peter King of New York alert!), and, then, they’ll do nothing after the camera lights get turned off. Then, it’s back to biz as usual, as it has been since 9/11. Security theater is just that. And government contractors will continue to collect gazillions of dollars doing waste-of-time, useless background checks, rubber-stamping guys like Aaron Alexis for more access to America’s military basis and intelligence.

And you wanna trust these guys to do background checks of illegal alien terrorists seeking amnesty?

Good luck with that.

G-d save this desperate, sinking nation.

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One other thing: why did Aaron Alexis shoot the place up? Was it just because “he’s crazy”? Or did someone convince him to do it? We have no motive here.

But we do know that the Al-Qaeda manual urges jihadists to recruit crazy people to carry out jihad. That way, when the crazy person is found out or caught, it can be easily dismissed as “the actions of a crazy person.” As I’ve noted on this site, the Detroit Al-Qaeda terror cell did that, recruiting several crazies, who were later discredited as “crazies.” One of them “jumped” (probably thrown) to his death off the Detroit-Windsor Ambassador Bridge.

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I completly agree with everything you pointed out. Coming from a military backgraound in the USAF, Security Specialist Field and having a secret clearance and being a current police detective gathering gang inteligence, it is beyond my comprhension how this man could work for the Navy as a contractor w/ a dishonerable discharge. I am eager and interested to learn more. The criminals, crazies and crusaders are what terrorist are. We need to take national security seriously. Not by disarming innocent law abiding citizens, but by overhauling the mental health system, sure up our boarders and complete background checks. Checks and balances and accountability for those background checks. We make a lot of excuses in this great country or ours. Every other nation in the world takes national security seriously. We will continue to become victims of senseless murdering rampages, unless we tighten things up from the top down.

MW: Incredibly, he was honorably discharged, according to media reports. DS

Mark Wassmer on September 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Mark,

    Sorry to disabuse ya but its not going to happen. We don’t have the will, the common sense or the money to secure our future. Without those three things – national security isn’t even on the agenda.

    Its not going to be anything more than the usual “Lifetime TV Movie Of The Week” massacre story. Which is cold comfort for Case’s victims. The only real upside worth celebrating here is he’s dead and is not gonna better medical care than his victims.

    More important, was this incident a dry run by Islamic terrorists? Ya never do know now that they probed for and obtained a picture of one particular vulnerability. And there are many many more of them throughout our vast federal establishment waiting to be exploited – about which nothing will be done until its too late. The past is prologue to the future.

    Count on it.

    NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 3:58 pm

He could have been working for Al Qaeda… the government won’t check cuz of couse Islam isn’t responsible for terrorism.

It’ll be written off as another act of “workplace violence.” Until next time.

Its so predictable and the worst part of it is the people who want to do us harm can walk right in the front door. Aaron Alexis Case is one of many more to come.

Isn’t this a great country – or what? Only in America.

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Alexis clearly got the affirmative action hire. Any white person with that record would not have been hired and would have been criminal prosecuted.

Federale on September 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Sad but true.

    DS_ROCKS! on September 17, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Eric Holder & the DOJ are now going after employers for doing criminal background checks cuz it disproportionately affects the hiring of black people (specifically young black men). So, is this guy really a Buddhist? Did he do it for Trayvon? Did he do it for Jihad? Don’t buy that he is just a wack job. I will reserve judgment until we have lots more information as the public has been led in the opposite direction of the truth every time on events like this.

    Sioux-san on September 17, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    Spot on! Same for Hassan. Both had horrible military records, yet were not given any serious disciple.
    “Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.” –Aristotle.

    Lou on September 18, 2013 at 9:36 am

Federale,

And the Islamic affirmative action hire. Think Nidal Malik Hasan. Political Correctness will be the death of us all!

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm

“One other thing: why did Aaron Alexis shoot the place up?”

If and when they release a victim list, maybe there’ll be a pattern.

DS_ROCKS! on September 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm

DS – maybe to kill critical personnel, maybe it was a grudge, he had a “bad day” or he decided that was the morning to go “postal.” Take your pick. We’ll never know for sure what set him off on his grisly rampage.

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm

It’s a sad reality but reality it is all the same. The buffoons that conduct background checks for Secret/Top Secret clearances are the same who do background checks for FLEO positions. The collection of incompetent twits we now have working for ICE, CBP, and other fed agencies is proof enough.

And it’s any wonder we’re in the shape we are?

IceNoMore on September 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

ICNM -

I wouldn’t be so harsh on them – federal law enforcement officers are dedicated, hardworking and responsible people. They do the best they can as professionals with the resources they have.

There is only so much they can do cuz they don’t really run the show. Their bosses who do have other priorities and apart from not rocking the boat and looking forward to their government pensions or private sector lucrative second careers – they have no incentive to make things better.

The typical iron law of bureaucracy.

NormanF on September 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Norm: “federal law enforcement officers are dedicated, hardworking and responsible people” I thought you were being sarcastic until I read the rest of your post.

    Typically, people who choose to work for the government are pissants who can’t compete in any other sector and most, if not all, suffer from “clerk syndrome” and get off on pushing people around and intimidating them, *not* some noble “call to duty.”

    Plus, 30 days paid vacay, no worry about layoffs for life and generous medical, dental and retirement packages ain’t to shabby, either.

    DS_ROCKS! on September 17, 2013 at 11:57 pm

      I agree with you, DSR. I used to be more akin to what Norman stated but then I started seeing things and started to feel more foolish because my support for them was NOT reflecting how they SHOULD have been acting.

      Nobody changed my opinion on them except THEMSELVES. They need to earn my respect and reflect the American values I was once reflecting on THEM.

      Skunky on September 18, 2013 at 11:23 am

        skunky is wise beyond her years.

        DS_ROCKS! on September 18, 2013 at 4:40 pm

The reality is that there is NO accountability in government. Period. If there were, the people who were responsible for allowing Hasan and Alexis to have the jobs they did would have been FIRED, at a minimum. Instead, they are PROMOTED. That isn’t incompetence. Rather, it is PLANNED POLICY.

So, with policies like that, expect more of the same. The military and the politicians fully approve of these policies because they are used as a pretext to clamp down on the civil liberties of ordinary citizen, such as promoting gun control, etc.

Ralph Adamo on September 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm

Well, if it was a medical discharge for mental problems, then they generally do make it honorable and aren’t allowed to disclose the reason except in certain instances. Not sure what those instances are anymore. And now with the prevalence of more mental diagnoses, it doesn’t always disqualify a person for a clearance if it is deemed manageable. They found people with clearances would talk about issues out of fear of losing their clearance. So, now more people seek help. A Secret clearance doesn’t take much to get. Any Active Duty Servicemember has a minimum Secret along with any employed military contractor. The criteria for a Secret is basically a NCIC check and you can easily obtain a waiver for any indiscretions for a Secret clearance. When you go for a TS/SCI you get the full investigation including agents sent to question everyone you’ve ever had contact with and then you get polygraphed every five years. I do agree Debbie this utter incompetency and doesn’t sound right at all. So far it sounds like this guy was about to work on the Marine Corps Intranet, which is cake work, and there is no reason to go postal over that job. It’s an overpaid cush job, why kill people? Doesn’t make sense.

markswfl on September 17, 2013 at 4:34 pm

Norman,

I agree with you in part but, as Debbie so famously states, “The fish rots from the head down.” The same inept dweebs who get let through the sieve of background investigations butt snorkle their way to management and then, in turn, look for the same in their underlings. Welcome to “Drink the Koolaid-101″.

There is no accountability anymore…hasn’t been for a long time.

IceNoMore on September 17, 2013 at 4:37 pm

Especially since people usually go postal when being fired from a job, not before they start it.

markswfl on September 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Actually, it’s about time that phrase “going postal” is retired from the vernacular. Researchers have found that the homicide rates at postal facilities were lower than at other workplaces. In major industries, the highest rate of 2.1 homicides per 100,000 workers was in retail. The next highest rate of 1.66 was in public administration, which includes police officers. The homicide rate for postal workers was 1.48 per 100,000. See “The United States Postal Service Commission On A Safe And Secure Workplace.”

    I propose “going Muhammed” as much more in line with the actions and the “thinking” behind those actions. If you don’t like something going on, just go take it on some random people, blowing ‘em up, shooting them, etc. Muhammed would approve, even more so if you do it in his name.

    Ralph Adamo on September 17, 2013 at 5:14 pm

Alexis traveled in Thailand and was there long enough to pick up some of the language. I read on the C.I.A. website that Thailand has a Muslim problem in some of it’s provinces. Could it be that he picked up some training and brainwashing while over there? And, of course they hired him and gave him a clearance. He’s BLACK. Affirmative action and hiring quotas. Contractors are required to hire a certain number of “minorities”. And, since it is so hard to find any that are even literate enough to read the label on a pack of Ramen noodles, I’m sure they didn’t care about any backround check.
I wonder if the background checks the liberals want for guns are as shitty as the ones the government “does” for security clearances.

RT on September 17, 2013 at 5:43 pm

All good citizens and all those who care about America have known the standard has been shrinking for years now. Nobody does their job with pride anymore (generally…) and nobody cares. Look at the people having kids and raising them. They lack manners and have huge entitlement personalities (or lack of ones…these dronish losers are quite wooden these days…like entitled, indifferent zombies…).

I’m not letting go of an Islam angle ’til it’s proven.

Alfredo also mentioned on another thread about the state of mental illness in USA. It’s pretty bad. Remember that 70% stat of peeps on prescription drugs? How much of that percentage are psychotropics?

I always know when I am engaging with someone who doesn’t know how the system of mental health works in USA. They think if you go to hospital, get a shrink or get a medicine for psychiatric problems you’re on you’re way to health. HARDLY. As I started with, nobody cares (especially if you’re a mental patient…) and what those sorts need more than anything is a benign “despot” pushing them thru’ rather than pandering victimization (which leads to NOTHING as the patient uses the pandering & victimization as a crutch and wallows in their own mental mess NEVER getting better…). You get rock bottom service from people who don’t have the brains, stamina or care to work as hard as they may have to to get someone motivated.

And on the clinician’s, there is only so much you can do to really help someone. The patient has to be accepting of the hard work and stamina they will need to start getting better (if possible…).

America ain’t like that in 2013. People don’t care, they are narcissistic and Libtardism has rotted what was once so great.

Skunky on September 17, 2013 at 5:45 pm

Several things. We have the usual politicians out saying that we need gun control. Yet, all the shootings that have happened have occurred in areas were gun control exits and all have been mental and thus not supposed to posses guns. Then we have the fact that with escalating social violence, most not reported, we are making laws to remove the one security available to all Americans. Let’s take away the guns when they do away with security for politicians (all, from president on down) and remove the guns from cops (more of a danger than the average criminal).

Now, I was involved in a sniping incident in New Orleans a few decades ago. What I witnessed was that the sniper killed a few people and the cops killed a bunch. With the butchers bill so high in this situation, will the government do an investigation to see how many were hurt of killed by the great cops?

david7134 on September 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm

As more and more enemies of America secure positions within our government, we can expect more bad things to happen. Whether it’s the FBI and our military eliminating all references to Islam, or members of the Muslim Brotherhood working WITHIN the Department of Homeland Security, all the signs point to a sad outcome for America.

JeffT on September 17, 2013 at 6:56 pm

The problem lies in the hands of our presently seated government, the presently seated administration and they presently seated Supreme court. They have taken the stand against the common American. To them we are their enemy. They have lost tract of just what America is. The Muslim Brotherhood (to this administration) have become the good guys and the Department of Homeland Security is backing them up. The DHS is not what they claim to be, but have become the Department of Insecurity. I do and can not trust any part of our present government as the are not here to protest the people, but to protect the government from the people.

george on September 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm

Watch how fast this guy’s past and recent passed are tossed under a bush. Yep, there have been Muslim terrorist incidents lately in Northern Thailand. Is there a jihad factor here? We may never know. Is there an affirmative action factor? I suspect so. Just watch how fast they push for more gun control. ….well folks, at least the public’s attention has been taken off of Syria ….and of course Benghazi, NSA, and IRS. How timely.

Not Ovenready on September 18, 2013 at 12:21 am

No reason I can see why he shouldn’t have gotten a security clearance. After all, he didn’t do anything like burning the Koran or urinating on terrorist prisoners.

Little Al on September 18, 2013 at 6:56 am

Atrocities like this should also be kept in mind when we hear the constant drumbeat (no pun intended) that felons should be allowed to vote.

Little Al on September 18, 2013 at 7:11 am

The mental illness of political correctness prevails again.

Pray Hard on September 18, 2013 at 11:36 am

HSI has hired people as special agents that have been removed from the military due to mental instability. HSI has employees who have received less than honorable discharges. There are HSI agents that make six-figure salaries that are pulling in thousands of dollars more in the form of payments for PTSD claims for service connected “disabilities” (mental instability). Think about that for a moment, there are people working in HSI that carry firearms that have serious mental conditions like paranoid schizophrenia and manic depression. Some time ago there was an incident in Los Angeles, California in which a special agent that had known, long standing, anger control and violence issues attempted to kill his supervisor, Kevin Kozak.

HSI has very low standards; I don’t think that there is much that could actually prohibit employment. There is no requirement that an applicant be of sound mind, there is no psychological battery or analysis administered to job applicants. HSI has also hired people as special agents who are new immigrants, people for whom a real background investigation cannot be performed because they have lived the majority of their lives in foreign countries (even less of a chance if it is third world or former Eastern Bloc country). Remember the former Jordanian military intelligence officer than worked for HSI in El Paso, Texas, that was eventually fired for corruption (how was someone like that hired in the first place)?

There was a time some years ago when you had to get a full scope background investigation to get into the better federal law enforcement agencies, and mental instability was a bar to getting a security clearance or carriage of a weapon. There was also a time some years ago where persons who have ever had foreign citizenship or nationality could not be granted a security clearance.

With such low standards for government employees, can we really hold contractors to higher standards?

King David on September 18, 2013 at 12:49 pm

I had to get a security clearance back in the day from the Naval Ordnance Laboratory so I could work there the summer after my senior year and before my first semester of grad school. During my first year of grad school they asked me back for the next summer, but again they did an extensive search of my background even though I had been cleared very recently. It seems now that a lot of people are very lazy or lax when it comes to clearances. How did Alexis get a gun through screening anyway?

NormCBS on September 18, 2013 at 3:32 pm

King David & ICENoMore-
You both are spot on- ICE is failing at checking potential employees out. How else do you explain that a senior aquisition specialist has been working for ICE for years, and has been operating a hate based, anti-white, anti-jew website, openly, and just now being found out? And he is still being by ICE,,,, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ayo-?kimathi-paid-leave

TexasHoldem on September 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm

Navy Yard killer created webpage with name ‘Mohammed Salem’.

Donald on September 21, 2013 at 1:16 pm

It’s all ok, we’re getting xrayed and examined to an inch of our lives at all of the airports by wannabee detectives, so all is good.

inxs on October 14, 2013 at 7:52 am

7 billion people in the world and growing, you’d expect to get a few nutcases amongst them.
This Ponzi population growth scheme is going to get real ugly with food and water stresses if we don’t start controlling it soon.

ccc on October 14, 2013 at 8:02 am

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