January 28, 2014, - 5:25 pm

Only the Good Die Young #5,876,322: Far-Left US/Israel-Hater Pete Seeger Dead @ 94 – Occupy Crypt

By Debbie Schlussel

It’s yet more proof of Billy Joel’s trademark song, “Only the Good Die Young,” as Pete Seeger is dead at age 94. I actually didn’t realize that corroded individual was still alive ’til just now. Seeger, the “folk singer,” was one of those schmucks who loved everything anti-American (and anti-Western) and everyone destructive to it. The only surprise for me about this stale refugee from the folk/hippie/yippie crowd is that he did not convert to Islam. He was definitely a halal granola type–a fruit, a nut, and a flake. If Barack Obama had a White grandfather . . . oh, wait!

peteseegergrimreaper

Dear Mr. Reaper, What Took Ya So Long?

Seeger protested with the Occupy crowd (and now Occupy Hell has a new leader). He called Israel “monstrous” and endorsed the boycott of the Jewish State. Plus he was one of the activists against Israeli demolition of HAMAS homes used to smuggle terrorists and their bombs. Yup, a peace activist for bombs! Only in Seegerica. (He visited Israeli kibbutzim back in the ’60s, but only ‘cuz that was the hip lefty thing to do back then. He did a quick about face on that stuff.) If Noam Chomsky had a designer line of people, Pete Seeger would be the first supermodel protesting down the semper-Fidel-fidelis runway. It figures that Bill and Hillary Clinton awarded him with the National Medal of Arts. More like Medal for old farts. Banjos all over America are rejoicing that they are free at last, free at last!

Once an official member of the Communist Party, he claimed he left it. But he never left Communism. He just gave it other names and joined its other incarnations, including the Occupy movement, the anti-war crowd, and the illegal alien cause. Oh, and did I mention that he fell for Al Sharpton’s and Tawana Brawley’s false rape accusations and protested on Brawley’s behalf, too? “If I Had a Hammer,” I still wouldn’t have used it to bang sense into this jerk’s thick and divisive skull. For him, if it was far-left, it was oh so right. If he’d had his way and we had no nukes anymore, we’d all be saluting images of Lenin, Stalin, and/or Chairman Mao. And he probably smoked more than his share of doobies in just a month of his long life.






The only good things I can say about this guy is that he served for three years in World War II (as an entertainer) and that he opposed Hitler (so did all other Communists that I know of).

Reader Sean has some great “reaction headlines” he wishes were real–and I’ve added my two at the bottom:

“Pete Who?”

“Wow. Well, I would have gotten that ‘Dead or Alive’ game wrong on that one. Until now”

“This just in from Russian Embassy: Russian flags will fly at half-staff today in honor of fellow Communist Pete Seeger”

“With Pete Seeger gone, Occupy Wall Street only has Joan Baez left for their musical support. Unless Michael Moore can pick up a guitar and learn real quick”

“This Land Is Your Land….and now it’s time to shovel some of it on top of you”

“Pete Seeger dead at 94. Music world suddenly less shrill and scolding”

“Peter Seeger factoid: In 2012 released ‘Peter Remembers Woody’ which ironically was about a couple of d-cks.”

Mine:

“Dead Man Walking Finally Dies.”

“Tales from the Crypt Ends.”

Buh-bye, Pete. Don’t let the gates of hell hit ya on the way in. Even Cerberus is wincing.

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I’m guessing that tool is smoking a turd in hell right now.

elmo p on January 28, 2014 at 5:31 pm

He made Mr. Rogers look like a he-man by comparison.

get real on January 28, 2014 at 5:42 pm

Not to be confused with Lincoln Park’s Bob Seger, another Michigan original. I would post a cool video but you’d likely delete it.

GR: I like Bob Seger. I don’t allow videos or links glorifying the fraud and draft dodging multi-babydaddy Ted Nugent. DS

get real on January 28, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Debbie is right – the only positive things Seeger contributed was service in World War II and popularizing folk music.

    Ted Nugent on the other is that avid hypocrite who made sure he didn’t have to serve! I still can’t see why conservatives prefer him over that other musician, whose passing rightly shouldn’t be lamented.

    Seeger is still going to hell because he he supported every anti-American on the planet, supported every wingnut cause and was a huge BDS fan and hater of Israel.

    I can’t say I love his politics. If it weren’t for his being on the music scene, people would now be rightly saying, “Pete Who?” And even that was decades ago. Let’s just say he really won’t be missed!

    As Victor Hugo would say – “fame?” – its not necessarily the best judgment of the qualities of a human being. Seeger’s unnecessarily long life is a testament to it. And like Debbie about the bad guys of the American Left, “only the good die young.” One Pete Seeger was one Pete Seeger too much for America.

    NormanF on January 28, 2014 at 9:01 pm

      I know that Norman but Ted has changed from his wild man days of his youth. He says things now that have the Secret Service knocking on his door. The most kick-buns argument I have ever heard re our Gd-given right to defend our gift of life via the 2nd Amendment was made by Ted. He also has laid it out about Zero’s plans for the country (which earned him a visit by the Secret Service) and so on.

      Yes, I agree with the Motor City Mad Woman a/k/a the Debster, about his past, but I think we can forgive people sometimes. Anyway, yall can check what the Nuge says now on youtube. I respect Deborah’s wishes on her own site.

      get real on January 29, 2014 at 10:39 am

He was an odious pro-Soviet hack. His political views kept him in the lime light, rather than his shop worn songs.

worry01 on January 28, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Ironically enough, its his folks songs for which he’s now remembered – not for his leftist crank politics.

    Outside of the 1960s flower children no cared about his being on the wrong side of every issue in the Cold War.

    We shouldn’t be mourning a man who openly hated America and embraced its enemies.

    He lived too long for his own good and I was surprised he was still kicking. Thankfully, that oversight has finally been fixed!

    I love folk music and yet I can’t get my head around the fact there is nothing to like at all about the guy who wrote it. He should have shut up and performed.

    Seeger is no Arik Einstein and will never be.

    NormanF on January 28, 2014 at 9:08 pm

Another left-wing traitor, who, with only a few exceptions, has been idolized in his death by so-called conservatives.

With the media-wide adulation of people like Seeger and Mandela, it is easy to understand how Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin were so well regarded in this country during the 1930s. I wonder how many of the ‘tunes’ he sang for soldiers during World War II flattered the Soviet Union (sic) and dealt with the subject of International Peace after World War II. (harbingers of the horrid Passing Through.)

But I think the worst damage that he caused was his indoctrination of young people during the 60s, 70s and 80s. In the 50s it wasn’t too bad because he was blacklisted, and during that era most of the people he was able to reach were already on the far left.

But in the 60s it got much worse. Because of the weakening and, finally, lifting of the blacklist, he was able to reach mass audiences. His avuncular style endeared him to many impressionable young people who had not come out of left-wing backgrounds. With their new-found young wisdom, they were rejecting their traditional American upbringing, and looking for new guidance, and, perhaps, new father figures. Seeger was right there.

His clever conflation of the Civil Rights movement and the anti-Vietnam War movement, featuring Civil Rights hymns like We Shall Overcome and traitorous antiwar songs like Knee Deep in the Big Muddy contributed significantly to young peoples’ hostility towards the Vietnam War, and by extension, to traditional American values.

He was, of course, also a supporter of Hitler for a time. During the Stalin-Hitler pact, as part of the Almanac Singers, he tried his best to weaken our war preparations, and his promotion of the slogan “The Yanks are not Coming” is a classic encapsulation of his support of totalitarianism.

This support of every totalitarian in the 20th century from the “man who detested violence.

But, uh, I have read that in a response to his apparent friend and student (and likely admirer) Ronald Radosh, he has acknowledged after many years that he was wrong to support Stalin. When did he acknowledge this? The long process started in the early 1980s. Decades after the Khrushchev revelations, during which almost half of the Communist Party quit after hearing their beloved Stalin decisively (although incompletely) repudiated. But Seeger apparently did not waver during that time in 1956 in his support of Stalin. By the 1980s, the Soviet Union (sic) itself was challenging Stalin’s legacy, and it is apparent to me that his discarding (at least outwardly) of his historic embrace of Stalin was meant primarily to maintain his mass marketability especially in an era where Ronald Reagan had been elected President.

Little Al on January 28, 2014 at 6:05 pm

And one other thing…some Jewish admirers of Seeger have pointed to his and the Weavers’ singing of Tzena Tzena in 1950.

They don’t mention that this song came out at the tail end of the very brief period when the Soviet Union (sic) was supporting Israel. A very brief period after World War II. Soviet support for Israel and the brutal resurgence of Soviet antisemitism actually was in full force by the end of 1948, but as Stephen H. Norwood discusses in his excellent new book Antisemitism and the American Far Left (Cambridge University Press, 2013, p. 149 ff), it took a year or so for the American Communist Party and its periphery (both heavily Jewish) to come to grips with the new line.

Little Al on January 28, 2014 at 6:13 pm

    LA:

    As you point out, Jews are their own worst enemies. Its hasn’t gotten any better today!

    Seeger and his crowd wanted to finish off America. Today’s leftist Jews want to finish off Israel.

    Same difference. There are Jews who embraced Hitler and Stalin and today there are Jews who embrace Abu Bluff and Haniyeh.

    They didn’t apologize for avidly supporting the mass murderers of the 20th Century and their descendants have doubled on their deadly delusions.

    We can all thank Heaven they got and they will get nowhere in their pursuit of the evil that men do that will most assuredly not die with them as it should. Jews of their persuasion have stimulated anti-Semitism and have made it a good harder for the Jewish people survive in this world. Especially for the ones their politics led to being decimated in the first place.

    Good riddance!

    NormanF on January 28, 2014 at 9:21 pm

Of course I meant “the end” of Soviet support for Israel…

Little Al on January 28, 2014 at 6:15 pm

And I meant p. 143 of Norwood’s book.

Little Al on January 28, 2014 at 6:20 pm

Shared your fb post of this. Can’t wait for the blowback from my lib friends. I, for one, could never understand the fawning over this guy. I was in college in the late ’60’s, and for some of my compatriots, he was all the rage. But then, most of my friends weren’t working while studying, and, since checks came from home, they weren’t yet involved with the real world: a place Seeger never came to know, as well.

Kent on January 28, 2014 at 6:47 pm

Pete “If I Had a Hammer… and Sickle” Seeger, is finally now a good communist. Good riddance.

lee of the lower case "l" on January 28, 2014 at 7:05 pm

I knew this tale from the crypt had a happy ending. (ghoulish laughter)

Frankz on January 28, 2014 at 7:33 pm

To get even greater insight into Pete Seeger, check out his role in the song Wimoweh (the Lion Sleeps Tonight).

As recounted by Mark Steyn in his “Song of the Week”, Seeger copywrote the song, he knew was really written by an impoverished South African black, who never saw a Krugerrand of royalties for this in his lifetime. Seeger got all the royalties, and then denied any knowledge of it.

When the windfall was called to Seeger’s attention, he claimed he told his publisher years before to turn over all the royalties to the poor widow of the songwriter. He was surprised to find out those wishes were never followed. Of course, all Seeger would have had to do was look at one royalty check he was getting once the song became a huge hit and the money started pouring in.

Guess Seeger was too busy defending the rights of the downtrodden to focus on a poor South African he screwed out of millions.

Jeff on January 28, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    Jeff: deadly.

    skzion on January 28, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    To get even greater insight into Pete Seeger, check out his role in the song Wimoweh (the Lion Sleeps Tonight).

    As recounted by Mark Steyn in his “Song of the Week”, Seeger copywrote the song, he knew was really written by an impoverished South African black, who never saw a Krugerrand of royalties for this in his lifetime. Seeger got all the royalties, and then denied any knowledge of it.

    Dear Jeff: Can you prove that? If it’s not true, it’s libellous. I don’t like that song, anyway.

    Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 1:59 am

      Miranda:
      I am but a lowly commenter. As I wrote, this came from Mark Steyn’s site. If you check out Wimoweh on Wikipedia, the story is essentially as Steyn wrote it.

      The song generated $15 million in royalties (some say the song generated over $70 million in profits…don’t forget even Disney used it). Yet, Seeger never thought to look at his royalty checks until this was brought to his attention. That detail is very widely known.

      Jeff on January 29, 2014 at 11:19 pm

I always wondered about that “hammer” business, but now that I know it’s cowritten by Seeger–and apparently used as propaganda for commies finally getting some push back–the hammer makes perfect sense. Hammer and Sickle indeed. (Tip of the hat to lee.)

skzion on January 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm

I’m the 1968 Poor people’ March in Washington, Seeger exclaimed to a national audience, “Jews open up your banks.”

Cock en dred, momzer.

Jonathan e. Grant on January 28, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    I’m the 1968 Poor people’ March in Washington, Seeger exclaimed to a national audience, “Jews open up your banks.”

    Cock en dred, momzer.

    Jonathan e. Grant on January 28, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    So everybody could walk in and steal his money? I wonder how Joan Baez would react if the Occupy Wall Street crowd occupied her property.

    I was a big fan of Joan Baez, when I was in high school. I remember once, listening to one of her albums, and my mother, of blessed memory, saying “I’m beginning to resent these people, who are all getting so rich singing about how doomed and horrible we all are.” Another time, I was listening to another Joan Baez recording and my mother said “Don’t you get tired of listening to these songs about people who bravely defy the clubs of the fuzz when they have never experienced the clubs of the fuzz?” Well, those seeds she planted grew and blossomed. In the 2004 Presidential election, to my mother’s total, utter, disbelieving, bewildered shock,I voted for Bush.

    Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 5:59 am

That should have been “During the 1968 poor people’s march on Washington”

Damn iPhone changes what I type

Jonathan e. Grant on January 28, 2014 at 8:01 pm

All these songs like If I Had a Hammer, Where Have All the Flowers Gone, became part and parcel of the nuclear disarmament movement of the early 60s, and then, of course, the anti-Vietnam War movement. Their pacifist veneer was used by Seeger to do his utmost to incapacitate the U.S. effort in Vietnam.

Little Al on January 28, 2014 at 8:02 pm

I do miss Skunky.

skzion on January 28, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Yes, so do I.

    Little Al on January 28, 2014 at 9:31 pm

      Where is she?

      Meira on January 29, 2014 at 1:59 am

    I’ve wondered repeatedly about Skunky’s absence, always wishing for her return. These threads run incomplete sans the contribution of the Massachusetts Mauler.

    lee of the lower case "l" on January 28, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    ditto

    Frankz on January 29, 2014 at 5:21 pm

      Well, I know she is on Twitter…. I do not participate, but someone who does should drop her a … tweet? Scold her at the end for being scarce here.

      skzion on January 29, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    where did she go?

    kirche61 on January 31, 2014 at 11:24 am

And like 99 out of every 100 Leftist “artists” in every field, who moan and whine about “the poor”,”the oppressed”, and capitalism, Seeger was born and raised solidly middle class – his father was a musicologist who trained at Harvard,his mother was a concert violinist who taught at Julliard. Another pompous ass,self-serving,Left Wing PHONY, who never believed Communism did anything bad to anybody.

CharlesMartel on January 28, 2014 at 9:32 pm

One of the news radio anchors where I live, when reading about this once-a-pinko–always-a-pinko’s death, referred to him as “Pete Singer.” Even with another anchor on the same station getting the name right. But I suppose the countdown to his death came when his wife Toshi passed away last year. Usually with some alter kockers this is the case.

I also presume there would be one “condolence” to add that I didn’t seem to see in the article – R.I.H. Now if only Harry Belafonte could be added . . .

ConcernedPatriot on January 28, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    Now 86, Harry Belafonte, another Communist, isn’t that far off from meeting his maker. Your wish soon will be granted.

    Primetime on January 28, 2014 at 10:40 pm

      Sorry Primetime but if things go according to plan we have at least 10 more years of the Dayo Dumbo to spew his leftist drivel.

      Ken B on January 29, 2014 at 9:01 am

One of your best columns, Debbie.

Funny and brutally honest as you usually are.

Jeff W. on January 28, 2014 at 10:31 pm

Much interesting information here about Pete Seeger’s political predilections. But you should also laugh at Pete Seeger. Here’s Tom Lehrer’s 1960s song about Seeger, Guthrie, Dylan, Biaz, and that crowd, called “The Folk Song Army”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IlShKGgfjM

Ralph Adamo on January 28, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    Funny. Thanks. I thought of forwarding it to Joan Baez’s website, but I’m sure she’s heard it.

    Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 6:13 am

I admit that when I was a little kid that didn’t know any better, Pete Seeger was played at my public school.

Long story short, I’ll respect his contribution to music, but I’ll condemn his politics.

Plus, if Communism were a religion, the Pete would’ve been the first to successfully use taqiyyah to subjugate a nation and a couple of generations.

Meanwhile, my good friend Satan cleaned me out of earplugs: he heard a rumour that he may have to host Pete Seeger. He fucking hates banjoes.

(Personally, I believe that Pete will meet the man who wrote “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” when he gets to the Other Side. I guess he’ll have a lot of ‘splaining to do.)

The Reverend Jacques on January 29, 2014 at 12:48 am

Even Cerberus is wincing.

Derberus is being forced to confront Pete Seeger? TRhat’s cruelty to animals.

Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 1:56 am

    Haha, Miranda, that’s one of your funniest comments ever. I agree. I always hated ALL folk music except the Smothers Bros because they were funny in a ridiculous sort of way. And that includes Mr. Zimmerman. Yuck, whiny, off key, nonsense.

    Meira on January 29, 2014 at 2:02 am

    CORRECTION:

    Cerberus is being forced to confront Pete Seeger? That’s cruelty to animals.

    Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 1:56 am

    Dear Meira: Thanks. I love good folk music. Though I don’t agree with Joan Baez’s politics any more, she was and is a fine singer. Do you like Johnny CasH? Bradley Kinciad? Mordechai Ben David? Elvis? Just lately, I’ve learned about a wonderful jazz singer I was unfamiliar with, Sarah Vaughan.
    My father, may he rest in peace, was a big fan of Louis Armstrong.

    Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 2:38 am

      Johnny Cash, yes, Elvis some, Not into Hassidic music so probably wouldn’t like Mordechai. Don’t know Bradley but if he’s folk, nope. Love Sarah Vaughn. Got to see her at the Rainbow Grille back in 1968. Fantastic! And your dear father had impeccable taste. There is NO ONE like Satchmo! Try finding some of the albums he made with Ella Fitzgerald, awesome!

      My Jewish music tastes run to Sefaradi and ME, Israeli. These guys re fantastic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHpocou9vs

      I love dance and I admit I am not the most machmir when it comes to tsinut in that respect. I don’t participate in mixed dancing but I love to watch, even Dancing With the Stars.

      Meira on January 29, 2014 at 7:20 am

        Dear Meira:

        Another jazz great, who I just discovered recently, is Nancy King. Did you ever hear any of Louis Armstrong’s renditions of the children’s songs from the Disney Movies? “Chimchimnee, Chimchiminee?” “The Bare Necessities?”
        Do you ever listen to the jazz program that is broadcast on Galei Tzahal, 9:00 p.m. on Sundays?

        Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 7:48 am

          I’m actually not a Disney fan. Hated Mary Poppins. And I was just too old when it came out but I do remember Bare Necessities. The original was Louis Prima another great.

          I have to be in the mood but I do like some CW. Believe it or not, I loved Tex Ritter when I was a kid and of course being a Roy Rogers maniac, I liked the Sons of the Pioneers.

          I don’t listen to the program on Galei Tsakal. We’re starting to wind down by 9 PM because my husband gets up at 4:45 for the Morning Minyan. I stay up late but it’s a small flat and I like to read quietly once he’s in the bed.

          Meira on January 29, 2014 at 8:28 am

        Bradley Kincaid was country-western, if you like that.

        Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 7:51 am

      “…My father, may he rest in peace, was a big fan of Louis Armstrong.”

      A lot of us are fans of Louis Armstrong. This statement from too long ago to remember the source has stuck in my mind. In the fewest amount of words this speaks to the unique wonder of the artist: ” Louis Armstrong, easy to imitate but impossible to duplicate.”

      lee of the lower case "l" on January 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm

Another thing you should know is to avoid buying any version of the song “Turn, Turn, Turn.” The most popular version of the song is by The Byrds, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see others doing updates on it, now that Seeger is dead.

Although the lyrics were 99% ripped from the Book of Ecclesiastes, in the King James Bible, Seeger wrote the music and owns the rights. Seeger has made a nice income over the years from that one song alone.

But here’s the part that you probably don’t know. When the royalties for “Turn, Turn, Turn” are paid, 45% of them go to the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, an anti-Israel group based in Jerusalem, Israel. This group also receives funding from the EU—surprise, surprise. This group is also involved in boycott Israel activities, needless to say. And a final bit of trivia that you should know is that when the Communist Party USA donated its collections of writings and artifacts to New York University in 2007, among the items donated were Seeger’s handwritten lyrics to “Turn, Turn, Turn.”

Ralph Adamo on January 29, 2014 at 2:30 am

    Dear Mr. Adamo: Could you verify that information for me? I don’t want to get sued. If it’s true, I want to forward that tidbit to every radio station in Israel!!!!The song is all over the Israeli radio, every Succot.

    Miranda Rose Smith on January 29, 2014 at 2:42 am

      Sure, Miranda, but just say Ralph, no need for “mister.” If you’re referring to the 45% royalties to the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, just search using the phrase “Pete Seeger’s role in ending Israeli house demolitions” and “Nov. 7, 2009″. That will take you to the Haaretz article with the information about the royalties. Now, Haaretz is an anti-Israel “news” outfit, also based in Israel, but on this particular matter they would be a credible source, as I’m sure Haaretz has close ties to that group.

      Ralph Adamo on January 29, 2014 at 3:01 am

Pete Seeger was just another in a long line of whiney leftist hippy morons who railed against the “man” while smoking dope and singing crappy songs. It stands to reason why this fruitcake(with nuts) lived a good long life. My guess is that truly evil people just live longer. How else do you explain someone like Jimmy Carter. Happy trails to you Pete because I know it’s hot where you are.

Ken B on January 29, 2014 at 9:18 am

Never did like Bruce Springsteen’s “The Seeger Sessions” album. This blog now re-enforces that dislike. Never did like Bruce’s politics either, but most of his music is classic.

WilliamMunny on January 29, 2014 at 11:30 am

I associate Pete Seeger with Seattle. Grey, dour, sad, wet, moldy. The Broncos on the other hand play in the bright blue of clear skies and wear the colors of brilliantly clear sunsets and sunrises.

I’ll be rooting for the Broncos.

Jack on January 29, 2014 at 11:59 am

Actually, he supported Hitler during the period of the Hitler-Stalin Pact.

Federale (@Federale86) on January 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Federale, that’s a great point about Seeger supporting the Hitler-Stalin (actually, Molotov-Von Ribbentrop, but who cares these days?) Pact. Seeger was avidly against American involvement in WWII until the Germans invaded the Soviet Union. (I had some relatives who felt very much the same way.) Then Uncle Joe gave the orders for the American leftists to urge fighting those (suddenly) evil Nazi fascists. Seeger had recorded an anti-war album, but yanked it back when he did his about-face. When Seeger came around on Stalin in the 1980s, he also apologized for this other action. It only took him a few extra decades.

    I am convinced that many of these modern anti-war leftists would urge fighting against Islamic jihadists if these radical Muslims attacked Cuba or North Korea. Same mindset at work.

    Isophorone on January 29, 2014 at 9:54 pm

@ Jack….right on brother! I will be as well!

IceNoMore on January 29, 2014 at 12:58 pm

One other thing I’ve noticed, and it reminds me a little of what went on with Treyvon Martin —

More than 90% of the photos I’ve seen of Pete Seeger during the last couple of days show him as an old man, with his white-haired beard. A nice old man, enjoying the rewards for the richness of his life.

How could that nice old man possibly do anything damaging?

But of course the damage he did was mainly when he was much younger, from the late 30s through the 80s, although of course he never stopped trying to turn America in a Communist direction.

I have been struck by the lack of photos of Seeger when he was younger — people looking at his more youthful pictures would be less like to view him solely as a kindly old man who loves everybody.

So Treyvon Martin was presented as younger than he was when he attacked Mr. Zimmerman, and Seeger’s pictures, while accurately presenting him as he is today, create an unconscious impression in many viewers that he always looked this kindly and innocent. While he always tried to look kindly, he definitely looked more threatening, and more capable of causing trouble, when he was younger.

Little Al on January 29, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    Interesting observation, A1. Yes, no angry young man photos. Just photos of someone who looks like a kindly grandfather or great grandfather. Some photos even make him look like Santa Claus, on a low carb diet, sans costume. This sort of depiction helps to make anyone attacking him seem “mean-spirited.”

    Ralph Adamo on January 29, 2014 at 4:03 pm

Hell must now reek of patchouli.

DS_ROCKS! on January 29, 2014 at 2:59 pm

seeger will have plenty of more company in the flames. His ole’ pal, daniel orteiga, is on his way soon enough. Many don’t want to think about it, but bruce springsteen is right in there with the seeger types. When one fully supports the current type “rulers” in office now days, and knowing what is known of their beliefs, they have to be in full support of their policies. That excludes the low-info and inner-city “masses”. seeger is serving in a hot holding cell until he faces his full “reward”. He is smelling sulphur now , not flowers.

William on January 29, 2014 at 4:01 pm

I think someone should compile of still-living Jew hating entertainers. Cat Stevens, Faithless, and Roger Waters are top of the list, of course. Also there are Annie Lennox, Emma Thompson, Elvis Costello, Brian Eno, Gorillaz, and Pixies. Of course, there are many, many others. Most of these are British, which just goes to show how deeply antisemitism is rooted in British society.

adam on January 29, 2014 at 6:25 pm

Wow, are you people all a bunch of psychos! Get help!

luke on January 29, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    use the force, luke.

    kirche61 on January 31, 2014 at 11:26 am

    Luke in the spirit of bipartisanship I have this to say to you. In the immortal words of Eddie Murphy “If you don’t like it here then get the @#%& out!

    Ken B on January 31, 2014 at 1:27 pm

Luke, I realize many of the posts here aren’t going to be to your liking. Perhaps you should check into other blogs that will make you feel right at home. Try Stormfront, Al Jazeera, or Communist Party USA.

Ralph Adamo on January 29, 2014 at 11:07 pm

The guy was a musician an entertainer, not a statesman. You have to get into the spirit of what he was doing to appreciate him. He might not have been right on all the issues but I think he meant well. I think he was trying to work for human rights as an offshoot of supporting the labor union movement, which in effect established a middle class in America. To call him a flat out communist is ignoring the nuances of what he believed in.

He also did a lot for the environment such as getting the Hudson River cleaned up. It went from being a toxic waterway that would kill you on contact to now being a waterfront attraction with regular boating and kayaking even. His aim was to bring people together and to do it through music.

Some of his ideas might have been hokey and he may have been somewhat aloof and scornful of others’ freedoms, but in the end no one is perfect. I wouldn’t ignore the good he tried to do just because he had some wrong ideas about Israel or whatever.

Hippies can fall into the trap of being kind of arrogant and insular. He was an old man when he died so he had a lot of time to set in his ways. I think the spirit and passion of his music lives on and you can take it or leave it just like with any form of art.

bb on January 30, 2014 at 9:11 am

    @bb–

    Sorry, but that whole “toxic” Hudson River mantra was WAAY overblown. And, in some cases, the “clean-up” was worse than the original problems.

    Seeger stopped *officially* being a Commie only when that hurt sales. He was never anything more than a modestly talented Left wing scumbag.

    Folk music has always and forever been the domain of musicians with very limited talent. And, as bad as the musicians are, the fans are even worse—in terms of being money-grubbing in actuality, but living under the fake pretense of “power to the people.” aka limousine liberals

    The only commercially successful “folk” group was the Kingston Trio, but nearly all of their songs that made money were simply pop–such as “MTA.” As to Peter, Paul, and Mary, the same holds true. Essentially all their hits were pop.

    “MTA” was a campaign song for Walter O’Brien, a progressive party candidate for mayor back in the 1940s in Boston. The Kingston Trio changed the song to give it hooks—the very definition of a pop song.

    Seeger’s Weavers did achieve a number 1 in 1950 with Goodnight Irene—-hardly a protest song, or even a folk song. Besides, it featured a fine orchestral arrangement that Seeger had nothing to do with.

    The only true folk song that went #1 was Michael Row the Boat Ashore, by one-hit wonders the Highwaymen. It was 1961, 100 years after the start of the Civil War. How brave to be singing an anti-slavery song then!

    Prometheus on January 30, 2014 at 3:28 pm

Further to Hudson River…

Toxicity of PCBs—like so many other chemicals—was overstated, and GE was disposing of them in accordance with approved procedures at the time, into the river.

Ironically, they had sunk into the riverbed, and the “clean-up” involved a considerable amount of dredging, which forced them back into the water. One more under-reported “environmental” fiasco.

Prometheus on January 30, 2014 at 4:08 pm

never heard of this seeger guy…

kirche61 on January 31, 2014 at 11:25 am

You’d think that after playing the banjo for close to 100 years he would have progressed from pathetic to sneaking up on mediocre

David Cameron on February 4, 2014 at 12:02 pm

Surprised no one mentioned Tzena Tzena… While Seeger was a commie piece of crap… It is a beautiful hebrew song that the Weavers covered.

noc on February 14, 2014 at 8:54 pm

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