November 9, 2015, - 4:09 pm

If Israel Still Had Sinai: How Jimmy Carter Brought Us ISIS – THIS Would’ve Saved Russian Flight

By Debbie Schlussel

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Thank Jimmuh for ISIS in the Sinai & the Bombed Russian Plane: Sharam El-Sheikh, Egypt, Formerly Sharma Sheikh, Israel

For all the discussion of what brought down Russian Metrojet Flight 9268 (and it is likely it was an ISIS bomb), one thing is certain: if the Israelis still had and controlled the Sinai Peninsula, ISIS wouldn’t be there, and the Russian flight would have landed safely, with all 224 victims surviving. And you can thank Jimmy Carter that they’re dead.

Back in 1979, then-President Carter pressured Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin to give the oil-rich Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in exchange for a cold, hostile, de facto peace. The Israelis developed a significant amount of what was dry, dusty, useless, empty desert land into tourist resorts, farming, and other productive, profitable uses. Israel first invaded and took the Sinai, after Egypt repeatedly violated agreements and blocked Israeli ships attempting to go through the Suez Canal in the early 1950s. Then, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser seized and nationalized the Suez and allowed Islamic terrorists to use it as a base for terrorist attacks. Israel had no choice but to go to war against Egypt in 1956, a war it won, but eventually retreated form the Sinai under U.S. and world pressure. Thereafter, Israel retook the Sinai again, after its Arab neighbors, including Egypt went to war against the Jewish State, and Israel beat them in six days (or as I like to say, “Six Days, Bitch!”), eventually annexing the Sinai. It is highly unusual for the winner of a war–a war it was forced to enter by its enemy neighbor–to have to “give back” the land it won. But Jimmuh Carter–a cancer who now has cancer–forced Israel to give the Sinai to Egypt in exchange for a hate-filled, cold “peace.” Egypt should have been forced to trade peace for peace. Land for peace is worth even less than the paper on which it is written.

And, now, the world is experiencing more of the disastrous legacy of Jimmy Carter that keeps on giving . . . er, keeps on crapping. ISIS has now had a presence in the Sinai for well over a year. That’s because Egypt is either not tough enough to get rid of it . . . or doesn’t really want to. ISIS became popular among a number of Bedouins in Sinai villages because ISIS gives out welfare to them, and the Egyptian government was ignoring the Bedouins (at least in the minds of the Bedouins). The Bedouins, like ISIS and like most Palestinians–especially those from HAMAS whom the Bedouins have frequently aided–are Sunni Muslims. And many of them are more extreme than the relatively secular Sunni Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi. That’s why ISIS appeals to them.

Israel, after it conquered and annexed the Sinai, maintained its usual strong security measures over the peninsula. Israel didn’t tolerate uprisings by the then-mostly-nomadic Bedouins there. Israel made sure they were sated (with a good deal of state welfare, unfortunately; though some of them collected that from Egypt), and some of them were even allowed to serve in the Israeli Army. Israeli Army officers and officials were in constant touch with Bedouin tribal chiefs throughout the Sinai and, unlike El-Sisi, they kept their fingers on the pulse of the area. But the Israelis were tough, too. They showed the Bedouins who was in control (not the Bedouins). Like all Muslims, Bedouin Arabs–even those who hated the Israelis–had respect for and fear of them. Israel would never have allowed ISIS to gain a beachhead on the Sinai. Not even close. It just wouldn’t have happened. Yes, there are uncontrolled, coordinated stabbing incidents and murders perpetrated by Palestinians within Israel proper on what now seems like a daily basis. But the Sinai is not an urban setting, and it is easier to keep an eye–and a lid–on it, even though it is a vast swath of land.

And, since all flights out of Israel are out of Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion Airport, where there is very strict security, there is no way a bomb would have gotten on a flight out of there. Israel, unlike the U.S. and Egypt, is very strict about everyone who has contact with Ben Gurion–not just the passengers. Everyone who works for airline caterers and every janitor who mops and vacuums the floors is carefully vetted and watched. I’ve written about how lax we are here in the U.S. on this (see also here), and the many incidents that have resulted. I’ll write more about that later. But the fact is that a bomb and/or explosive materials wouldn’t have made it anywhere near the tarmac at Ben Gurion.

The Egyptians are more careless. It’s like Detroit Metro Airport. They haven’t vetted the Muslims who work there. They haven’t watched who is going on the planes and what they are putting on the planes. And it’s reflective of the laxity that Egypt has had about the entire Sinai from day one that it took control of the land, thanks to Jimmuh the cretinous peanut farmer.

I’ve written about the “ghosts of Sharm El-Sheikh” (a/k/a Sharam El-Sheikh a/k/a Sharm A Sheikh) the many Jewish Israeli soldiers who were attacked there and gave their lives at “The Bay of the Sheikh” in one of the bloodiest battles of the Six Day War in 1967, when Israel was attacked. Sharm El-Sheikh (and the rest of the Sinai) was part of Israel from 1967 until 1982, when under Jimmy Carter’s Camp David Peace Accord, Israel was forced to give it to Egypt. As I noted on this site, the Israeli soldiers stationed at Sharm El-Sheikh

were ambushed, mutilated, and otherwise barbarically savaged by Egyptian soldiers and other supporting Arab fighters. They held strong, and despite the murder of many of them, the Israeli soldiers showed incredible courage, and they were victorious. After they died in the name of protecting the area, then-General Yitzchak Rabin visited to plot the course of the rest of the war. . . .

Sharm El-Sheikh and the Israeli soldiers who gave their lives there are the subject of a well-known Hebrew song by Amos Ettinger, which my late father occasionally sang to us as kids. I can hear my father singing it now to me from his grave, while he turns over in it. He was very sad on that day that Sharm El-Sheikh was turned over to Egypt, but he hoped it would result in lasting peace for Israel and the Jewish people. I’m glad he’s not here to see this.

And, as I also noted, there was no resort at Sharm El-Sheikh, until Israel created one out of desert.

it was desolate desert land on the ocean, but Israel built it into an international resort destination, before giving it to Egypt in ’82.

The ghosts of Sharm El-Sheikh are crying out. They lost their lives at that stronghold. And, now, it is the scene of ISIS bombs that even Nasser wouldn’t have wanted. (And the radical Arabist Nasser would have been an “infidel” to ISIS.)

If Israel still controlled this land, there would be no ISIS in the Sinai. And all of those who perished on the Russian flight would be alive and at home today.

Yes, we “evil Zionists” aren’t so bad, after all.

And Jimmy Carter brought us ISIS in the Sinai.

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BTW, many Israelis (the dumb, secular, far-left kind who think Muslims are just misunderstood, “nice” people) visit and vacation at Sharm El-Sheikh. In the past, Islamic terrorists have targeted Sharm El-Sheikh for terrorist attacks in order to easily kill Israelis, such as a July 2005 attack there. Maybe this ISIS bomb on the plane will wake up some of those dumbasses.

But I doubt it. You can’t fix tipesh (“stupid” in Hebrew).

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33 Responses

I was there when Israel controlled Sharm El-Sheikh. It was beautiful and I was saddened when it was given to Egypt.

It was a crime and I felt for the Israelis’ who built it into a resort from nothing. I spoke with a soldier who was there when Egypt lost it during the war and he said you could not walk on the beach for the human feces as the beach was used as a toilet.

General P. Malaise on November 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm

Yup.

Its also why Obama with his ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, hates Egyptian President Al-Sissi.

He stopped a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of his country and ISIS is an off-shoot of the MB.

And its not like Obama wants to eradicate Islamic terrorists.

Carter and Obama share the same attitude about Israel and the Middle East.

NormanF on November 9, 2015 at 4:23 pm

Staggeringly stupid man

Jack on November 9, 2015 at 4:51 pm

No, Obama certainly does not want to eradicate Islamic terrorists, considering our new friendship with Iran, and tolerance, to say the least, of Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Not many other Republicans or Democrats want to eradicate Islamic terrorists either.

The only reason the West is casting ISIS in a bad light is so that Iran, the ‘partner’ in this loathsome new treaty can be referred to as a lesser evil, or force for peace against ISIS.

I am sure the projection is that once people in the West have become used to seeing Iran as a collaborative entity, just like Cuba, Hamas, etc., we will suddenly discover ‘moderate’ elements in ISIS that we can talk to and pressure Israel to make concessions to.

Little Al on November 9, 2015 at 5:03 pm

It was Eisenhower in one of the stupid moves ever that forced to Israel to give up Siani in 1956. The blockade of Eliat was an act of war. Eisenhower in that one act strengthened the idotic United Nation, gave force to Arab Nationalism , destroyed United States, Britain and French control of property they bought and paid for, made certain that any 3rd world country can seize property we paid for think of Panama Canal and arab nationalizing USA companies oil field.
Eisenhower should have fully supported the defeat of Arab nationalism, banned Muslim immigration and visit (no Barack Obama) and shut down the idiotic United Nations.

madman on November 9, 2015 at 5:35 pm

In 2010 there was a movie released titled – THE EXPENDABLES.
In 2012 a sequel was released – THE EXPENDABLES 2.
In 2014 another sequel was released – THE EXPENDABLES 3.

GROUNDHOG DAY was a funny movie – the first time. HOME ALONE was a funny movie too – the first time.

Think: The phrases, “HISTORY REPEATS” and “THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT”, are truisms. History, as an Educational Discipline, has been relegated to the trash bin.

I guess there are too many who are ignorant of Historical lessons or too stupid to recognize Patterns of events, places, persons or too lazy to Learn or too evil to Act honorably to resolve, justly, bad situations.

The elephant in the room is the question of how to resolve these problem situations? HISTORY presents answers but…. which side / faction / belief system will be
E-X-P-E-N-D-A-B-L-E?????

Dennis on November 9, 2015 at 6:05 pm

Debbie……….Israel got the Sinai in the 1967 war. What ever Israel gained by joining Britain and France in 1956, President Eisenhower forced all three to return them back to Egypt.

R: You are correct. I should have been more clear in noting that after they took the Sinai in the Sinai Campaign of 1956, they eventually retreated under U.S. pressure. I will clarify. DS

Rex on November 9, 2015 at 7:03 pm

Dwight Eisenhower was one of the most overrated presidents the United States ever had. He was the man who left Hungary to its fate in 1956 and lost Cuba in 1959. Eisenhower did not capitulate to Hitler, but was happy to capitulate to one of his disciples, namely Gamal Adbel Nasser during the Suez Crisis of 1956.

Eisenhower was one of the few Republicans liked by Democrats, including Jimmy Carter.

Worry on November 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    Eisenhower was not a bad president. Very few people know of the covert operations carried out against Russia under Eisenhower that were curtailed under presidents after him. He was bold. I know of some of these covert operations because I got to know several pilots who were involved in such operations. One of which was smuggling out a top ranking Red Army officer who was in charge of radar development from a location in Uzbekistan. For Eisenhower the British/French/Israeli involvement was a distraction in the larger Cold-War picture. Plus, the French and Brits were just using Israel to lessen their own casualties.

    Rex on November 9, 2015 at 11:46 pm

In a way, the 18-year-old age bloc that helped elect Carter in 1976 brought us ISIS, if you look at it from a bigger picture. As early as then you saw the young’uns, thanks to the leftist indoctrination that was already creeping in our colleges and universities, and more important, via such manifestations of pop culture as “Saturday Night Live” with Chevy Chase’s portrayals of Gerald Ford as an incompetent, klutzy boob, having their minds warped thereby; not to mention that age group in general being more reckless in their decision-making in the sense of later having proverbial “buyer’s remorse.” You could make the case that if 18-year-olds were never given the vote, the better candidate would have won the Presidency et al. The recent votes on some key “hot-button” issues in such places as Houston, TX; Kentucky; Portland, ME; Ohio; and even San Francisco, shows what can happen when older people with more common sense and realization of the consequences of diving head-first into radical social engineering that has been proven to have a disruptive effect on society in general, are allowed to make their voices heard without the younger vote cancelling such voices out.

ConcernedPatriot on November 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm

Like so many brave soldiers that fought and died only to have their sacrifice make into nothing by stupid, or worse, politicians.

With Veterans day coming, I wonder how many would have died for this country if they could see what it has become today.

Steve G on November 9, 2015 at 8:35 pm

The oracles of wisdom in this country proclaim Jimmy Carter to be an great “ex-President,” but frankly I don’t see any improvement from his presidential days. If anything, he has proven himself to be a highly effective propagandist for the Arabs, much more blatant than when he was in the White House. It was an outrage that he managed to get elected in 1976.

Primetime on November 9, 2015 at 9:48 pm

Hi Debbie – Tom ( Haitham fakih from dearborn ). Why don’t you come to the mosque so I can feed you some food – to learn more about me go to Facebook ( Islamic reform of America & check me doing all the cooking )

Islamic reform of America on November 9, 2015 at 10:17 pm

If Israel still had Sinai, the world would have been less dependent on Islamic oil. Since Israel could have mined the Sinai for all the oil. Oh, and the Suez Canal would have been better for shipping.

Every time I hear about people who want to tour Egypt, I shake my head. As Debbie once remarked to a talk show host (think it was Brett Winterble), the people of Egypt ain’t the descendants of Ramases or Cleopatra. They are the comrades of Ayman al Zawahiri, Gamal Abdel Nasser, Mohammed Atta and generations of Jihadis graduating from al Azhar university. It beats me why people still want to see the pyramids – which ISIS wants to blow up like Palmyra – or why they wanna visit Sinai. Had Israel owned Sinai, Mt Sinai could have remained a major tourist spot for pilgrims.

As for the Russians, I sympathize w/ them, but their blood is at least partly on Putin’s hands. He knows what Jihadis are like both in Chechnya, which has been a source of Jihad against Russia, as well as the resurgent Jihadi activity in the stans, which Russians have left in droves since the 90s. I know that they think that the Shi’ite Jihadis are potential allies against Sunni ones, but that overlooks Shi’ite-Sunnite alliances that do happen.

Infidel on November 9, 2015 at 10:49 pm

Although polls have repeatedly shown that Obama has eclipsed Carter as the worst president in America’s history, I believe that, in time, Carter will ultimately reclaim that “distinction.” When you Google “Carter” and “scumbag,” for example, the number of hits is staggering, compared with comparable searches under Obama, Bush, and Clinton. What’s more, Carter continues to work hard to ensure that the Google hits with the scumbag-tie-in keep on coming. Most presidents tend to retire quietly and try to keep out of the limelight. But Carter is different. He relishes his scumbag linkage. Call him a scumbag and he just smiles. He takes that like a badge of honor. I feel that these efforts will not go unrewarded and I confidently predict that Carter will unseat Obama as the worst president of all time.

Ralph Adamo on November 9, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    Good Morning Ralph,

    President Carter…I get the chuckles anytime I see him on TV.

    On a different subject, if you haven’t already, please take a look at: PARIS 1919 by MARGARET MACMILLAN.

    It is an interesting and enjoyable read of the “Powers That Were” after WW I and their Political Leaders. Use it when trying to navigate the ongoing saga of the Middle East, Israel, and peace in that region and the personalities involved.

    Dennis on November 10, 2015 at 7:45 am

      Dennis–Thank you. I’ll look forward to reading it.

      Ralph Adamo on November 10, 2015 at 7:12 pm

Moshe Dayan is also largely responsible. He helped Carter pressure Begin.

I_AM_ME on November 10, 2015 at 9:03 am

Debbie, really , really ?
Do U support than invasion by Russia Crimeria ( Ukrainian’s eastern territory as well right ? }

Israel like RUS takes over “unruly ” ????? WOW !!!

Syrian’s Golan Heights was kept by Israel an O.K. than right ????? Because Syrian soldiers were firing from there during war at Israeli troops !!!!
JUSTIFY right ?

Keeping Sinai by Israel would prevent catastrophe ? , if not President Carter ?
how about Palestine ?….JUSTIFYED because they toss stones at OCUPYER Israel ?

I ” HAVE a feeling ” that if Israel took over Smolensk the explosion of Polish -TU-154 would not ever happened neither RIGHT ?>>> right ?
By the way can U do something about RUS not wanting to return Wrack of TU-154 (belongs to Poland !!!! is Polish property !) will U Israeli , please Israelis!!!! help us to gain rightful return and possession of what is OURS , what belongs to US , to POLAND

I’M asking because I’M “convinced ” that Israeli “can not DO QRONG ” !!!!!

My spell check is out …. & my English is not very good so do not attack my style of writing please .
P.S . do not misunderstand. I feel for families of lost lives of all in Sinai ?

Hermenegilda on November 10, 2015 at 9:48 am

So a Polack weighs in after quite a while about the EEEVILLLL JOOOOZZZZ. Funny how the supposedly sarcastic observations happen to be quite accurate!

H,Debbie did weigh in on Russia’s invasion of the Crimea. I’ll do that as well – albeit w/ different reasons to the same conclusion. The population of Crimea is Russian, and that territory was arbitrarily handed over to the Ukraine during the Soviet era, when everything was under Moscow and which republic had Crimea was a distinction w/o a difference. But after independence, the people of Crimea did have a right to determine whether they wanted to be a part of Ukraine or Russia. So the Russian annexation of Crimea is justified. I’m a little more nebulous about Russian operations in the Donbass, where there is a mix of Russians and Ukrainians.

On Syria, dunno whether you were trying to be sarcastic, but yeah, Israel ANNEXED the Golan Heights in 1982, and so that’s a done deal. If one wants to revisit history and redraw altered borders, what’s to prevent Mexican supremacists from demanding Aztlan – like was depicted on a beer bottle some years ago? If you want Israel to return the Golan to Syria, then why not have Poland cede back the Western part of your country back to Germany, and annex Belarus and parts of Western Ukraine? And who draws the line of how far back one goes? The entire Palestine – Judea, Samaria, Galilee, Negev, Sinai – was the land of the Jews when the Muslim Arabs invaded in the 7th century. If you wanna go back in history, let’s go back then and expel all Muslims worldwide back to the Arabian peninsula.

Golan Heights is strategically important for Israel since Syria never had any peace deals w/ them like Jordan and Egypt. Same is actually true about Judea, Samaria and Gaza – the only reason the Palis are back was that Jim (F___ the Jooozzz) Baker forced Yitzhak Shamir to sit at Oslo and take back the Palis to those places. Otherwise, 50 years after the fact, there was no reason why Palis who’ve moved to other countries couldn’t settle down there.

The best thing for the Middle East at any time would be Israel reconquering everything it won in 1967 – including the Sinai – and expelling all Muslims to other countries, like Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Wipe out the Pali Authority and level al Aqsa, and build the temple on Temple Mount.

Infidel on November 10, 2015 at 10:45 am

Another outstanding article, Debbie. I had this thought that if Israel had not given the land to Egypt none of this would ever have occurred. AND the only reason that I knew about this resort and this piece of land was because of an earlier article that you had written about Sharm A Sheikh a few years ago. Again, many thanks for all the excellent work that you’ve published on this blog.

Nancy B on November 10, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Haitham fakih from dearborn inviting you for a cup of coffee at the mosque

Islamic reform of America on November 10, 2015 at 9:18 pm

For years many people thought that Billy ( six pack ) Carter was the retarded brother of the family.

I answer that :

No. He was not the retarded brother.

JayPee on November 10, 2015 at 9:19 pm

I wasn’t going to comment, however, some commenters just pissed me off! First of all, those lands were not, “Arabic/Muslim lands!” They are, or rather, some commenters, are just egregiously ignorant. I realize that they are entitled to their own opinions, but certainly, ” not their own facts!” They are free to believe,” Whatever the fuck they want to believe!” They lose going against facts! Yes, we were fucked by… Ariel Sharon, Menachem Begin, even, my favourite, Shamir! We should have have never, ever, given Sinai! But it reminds me of goofed,” Jews,”that I grew up with!” They bragged about , vacations, their possessions, hell, I wanted to be them. That changed, in 1983, actually even before that. I went to Israel at 16-17 then. I am proud, that Debbie Puts this column out. Nothing gives my, almost 76 yr. old father more pleasure, than to attend services through the week. I am truly lucky.

Tov on November 10, 2015 at 10:02 pm

Agree this would never had happened had Israel kept the Sinai. How can there be security at an airport where tourists routinely bribe agents to avoid long lines?!
Learned “Sharm el Sheikh” in Israel from an IDF Major who had fought in the 1967 War. Thought it was written & sung by Ran Eliran.

PaulaMalka on November 11, 2015 at 6:16 am

Jimmy Carter is an anti-Semite and can be blamed for the current situation in the Sinai. However, the current situation in the Sinai is largely the fault of Barack O’Bama.

The Ikhwan (in all its flavors) ramped up their violence at least an order of magnitude under the O’Bama administration. Once inaugurated, O’Bama couldn’t wait to go to Cairo to show his affection for the Ikhwan. President O’Bama joyfully embraced the election of Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi.

It was under Morsi that the Ikhwan was turned loose in the Sinai and Gaza. Morsi declared the peace treaty null and void even as Egypt was quickly sinking into financial default.

All this was made possible by Jimmy Carter, but the violence was held firmly in check until O’Bama pushed the Muslim Brotherhood on the Egyptian public.

The Israelis knew the 1979 peace treaty with Egypt was only good for the lifetime of Anwar Sadat. It’s somewhat miraculous it has lasted this long. Still, the treaty will not likely stand the test of time.

Regards,

There is NO Santa Claus (aka TINSC)

There is NO Santa Claus on November 11, 2015 at 8:03 am

“thanks to Jimmuh the cretinous peanut farmer.”

Love it!

DS_ROCKS! on November 11, 2015 at 9:12 am

Nonsense. We could never hold Sinai and moreover, it’s not ours.

Shel Zahav on November 11, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Hey Shel, are on of those yorids now living in the US?

    skzion on November 12, 2015 at 9:35 pm

The magic of Prez Jimmy extends across the a big part of Dar al-Islam. Giving back the Sinai proved to be a stupidity. Giving back the Gaza proved to be a stupidity. Giving back the two Palestinian Authority zones turned out to be a stupidity. Which makes it breathtaking that only a few years ago the Israeli government was seriously considering giving back the Golan Heights. I’m extremely worried about Israel and the Jews it holds, and not only because of the fact that Prez Barack Hussein and Secretary John “War Coward” Kerry have just set up Persia with ICBMs and the ability to produce nuclear warheads to bolt onto them.

Alarmed Pig Farmer on November 12, 2015 at 11:26 am

Why do we have to read that pollack filth?

Shimon on November 12, 2015 at 6:54 pm

To grasp the continued significance of Sharm, one only need look to, and across, the sea. It obviously controls the Straits of Tiran, the choke-point to the Red Sea and Israel’s gateway to Asia. But across the water lies Yemen, where Iran is sponsoring the Houthi rebels in hopes of gaining control through their proxies of that strategic waterway. If Iran, as part of its 25-year plan moves to close the straits to Israeli shipping, we’ve got another war on our hands. And a response would have been easier to carry out from an Israeli base at Sharm than from more distant Eilat.

Which brings up another consequence, intended or not, of the Camp David deal: it required that Israel surrender *everything* gained in the war back to the Egyptian aggressor. That set the precedent that, in any future deal with the other parties, the same principle would apply: The aggressor would get everything back, Israel was entitled to keep nothing.

Now imagine a different scenario, where the principle was established that aggression against Israel carries a real price of loss, that there would be no opportunity for future “do-overs”. Imagine that Israel had insisted on keeping territory up to the Mitla Pass (to provide a buffer against further aggression) and Sharm (to guarantee their freedom of navigation through the straits).

Ah, but Carter was a firm believer (as is Obama) of the old maxim that “Israel is never allowed to win, and the Arabs are never allowed to lose.”

Raymond in DC on November 13, 2015 at 3:20 pm

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