January 21, 2016, - 2:14 pm

VIDEO/AUDIO: Schlussel & Adam Taxin on Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz & Conservatism

By Debbie Schlussel

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Yesterday, my friend, Jeopardy champion Adam Taxin, and I discussed Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Donald Trump and what it means, as well as Ted Cruz’s statements about “New York values.” Take a listen . . .

I guess “squirmishing” equals “skirmishing” and “squirming” at the same time, kinda like “refudiate” equals “refute” and “repudiate.” And my new word, “valume,” is the need to take a “valium” when the speaker needs to turn down her “volume.”

Also, here’s the pic of Sarah Palin’s Arizona mansion now up for sale for $2.5 million:

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23 Responses

Sarah Palin does deserve some conservative points for her support for Israel and she’s visited there too, though you can’t really say she’s a conservative when all things are looked at holistically.

Ralph Adamo on January 21, 2016 at 3:11 pm

Sarah Palin is no conservative. Her endorsement performance looked intoxicated, rather than intoxicating.

Worry on January 21, 2016 at 7:39 pm

It does Conservatives no good when someone as vapid as her is the face or the spokesperson of the movement – be it the Tea Party, Conservatism in general or anything else. Why not let it be someone like Cruz?

But it’s well known that Trump was a Liberal at one time: one would have to demonstrate that he’s still a Liberal NOW. I don’t think history is gonna matter: John McCain was a genuine Conservative before 1996, but it’s everything he did SINCE then that has everybody riled! Similarly, people who’ve converted TO Conservatism are gonna get a serious look. If one can demonstrate that the conversion is suspect, that’s one thing, but in the absence of that, if Cruz wants to attack Trump, it ought to be on things he’s said in THIS campaign. Like him wanting to renegotiate the Iran deal – as opposed to ripping it up.

New York Values means Manhattan values, and has nothing to do w/ the First Responders, contrary to what Trump said. I’m surprised that Conservatives don’t get that about a state that hasn’t voted red since 1984.

Infidel on January 21, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    How, then, did voters in New York City, by far more liberal than the rest of the state, manage to put a Republican in the mayor’s office for five consecutive terms? Giuliani served two terms; Bloomberg served three.

    Primetime on January 22, 2016 at 2:52 pm

      Good question, but an EASY answer. 2,245 murders in 1990, an all-time record for NYC, did it. And Rudy didn’t exactly win in a landslide against Stinkins his first time out. Let’s not forget Rudy was a one time Democrat who switched to the Republican Party. He remains pretty liberal on a lot of things. What Rudy did was all about cutting down on massive crime statistics, one of his few conservative attributes.

      As for Mike Bloomberg, he’s no Republican, unless you count RINO’s. His obsession with the size of a man’s (or woman’s) . . .

      soft drink was ample evidence of his liberalism. But the one thing Bloomberg understood was keeping the crime down.

      When violent crime is held down, society can function a lot better. Rudy and Mad Mike understood that much, and acted on it. Even the liberal denizens of NYC got fed up with not being able to go out at midnight for their Chinese food or pizza fix. Year after year of 1,500+ murders, spiking to the aforementioned total in 1990 just got to be too much.

      Other than that, New Yorkers wouldn’t ever go for a REAL conservative. Plus, since NYC gave up manufacturing for tourism as a main source of income, it had to cut the crime. Believe me, if it wasn’t a follow the money kind of scenario, NYC would still have high crime.

      Democraps love two things, high crime and high taxes. If they didn’t create miserable conditions that they could point to and convince people only they can solve, no one would vote for them. They have no real ideas, only that people are too stupid to run their own lives without a massive Government as God philosophy and bureaucracy.

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on January 22, 2016 at 9:39 pm

        Alfredo, thanks for explaining how Republicans came to rise in NYC. Your explanation makes perfect sense, especially with Guiliani, whose rep as a crime-fighter then was very strong. New Yorkers may make a lot of foolish political decisions, but the survival instinct can trump their other predilections.

        Ralph Adamo on January 23, 2016 at 7:10 pm

Interesting interview with Mr. Taxin, for those who clarify his or herself as a “conservative” must have epistemological knowledge in it, because this specific political-philosophy has plenty of meanings in it. For instance, I wouldn’t say the “right to life” and “being pro-choice” either a right wing or left wing position, they’re both to me are “tradition-and-customs” issues for women’s reproductive rights, where it’s up to the woman and NOT up to anyone, unfortunately, both the conservative-right and the liberal-left have viewed such issue as a black-and-white sequence (and it’s also correlated to science 101), and the same can be applied for the 2nd Amendment issue as well.

So no, neither Sarah Palin and Donald Trump alike are not conservatives, nor they’re not liberals (mainly classic-liberalism) either, Trump is a Nationalist, and Palin is just a Republican. Also, let’s not fool ourselves, there’s NO traditional conservatism and NO traditional liberalism here in the US, both American-Conservatism and American-Liberalism are both corrupted and perverted.

Sean R. on January 21, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    Sean, that’s a good analysis. I also believe that the media has a played a prominent role in making some of the political “brands” and sectors meaningless. Many Americans have come to recognize that there is often, if not typically, little distinction between Republicans and Democrats on many of the most crucial issues, and in so many ways it’s really a one-party system.

    Ralph Adamo on January 23, 2016 at 7:18 pm

Yes, Sen. Cruz has vocally opposed the Iran agreement, and yes, it should be torn up.

But in spite of his verbal protests, Cruz did not help matters by voting in favor of the Senate Bill in May which required a 2/3 override of an Obama veto.

Actions speak louder than words.

Little Al on January 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm

While ‘Infidel’ referred to ‘New York values’ correctly – and being a New Yorker myself, Cruz nailed it to the wall – it isn’t just Manhattan (or ‘Red Bill’ de Blasio); leftists in general in the state as a whole also ascribe to these values. Think the elitist Governor Andrew Cuomo’s pronouncement that those who aspire to conservative values (i.e. valuing life, the family, traditional morality) aren’t welcome in New York State. Or typical articles and screeching front-page headlines in the Daily News.

ConcernedPatriot on January 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    Everyone knows what “New York values” are. They’re liberal. New York is a blue state. De Blasio (a radical leftist) was elected mayor.

    There’s a term for this in the political dictionary on my website. It’s called “Rockefeller Republican.”

    “New York values” has nothing to do with 9-11, and Donald Trump was wrong to bring that up.

    Yes, New York City has many people, and many conservatives have lived or worked there. William F. Buckley lived there. I lived there. We both ran for political office and we both lost big. Because — New York values.

    The Daily News made a big deal of this not because they don’t know exactly what it means, but because they don’t like a conservative such as Ted Cruz.

    Barry Popik on January 21, 2016 at 9:41 pm

I agree with everything you said about Palin and much of what you said about Trump, but try to keep in mind Debbie that, if nothing else, Trump has been forcing the national discussion in the direction we want it to go and no one else has. Immigration, the ban on Islamos, gun rights, b*tch slapping the media, going sgainst the RINO establishment, and so on. For the love of God let him continue on.

Elmo on January 21, 2016 at 10:28 pm

The best thing about Trump is that he’s shaking things up.
What worries most conservatives is once he’s elected his true colors will show and he’ll become another “lightweight” (pun intended) RINO like Chris Christie.

theShadow on January 22, 2016 at 12:40 am

Isn’t that a risk with all of them?

Little Al on January 22, 2016 at 3:19 am

W. Buckley was not a conservative. he was an elitist with an agenda to steer “conservatives” so they would toe the line with elitist wishes.

I agree with you on Palin and Trump as being not conservative.

NotWithStanding Trump is the most conservative in the GOP field.

General P. Malaise on January 22, 2016 at 9:57 am

    Whatever W. Buckley was he came off as a know-it-all snob to me and I’m sure many found it a reason not to vote for him. His personality just turned me off instantly which is not good when you’re running for public office, I don’t care who you are.

    theShadow on January 22, 2016 at 10:02 pm

You’d think so . . . think of Allen West’s time in Congress as a textbook case . . .

ConcernedPatriot on January 22, 2016 at 10:09 am

GPM, Cruz is the most Conservative, not Trump. Problem w/ Cruz is that he seems to think that Conservatives are his ONLY constituency, and he doesn’t seem to have a strategy of winning beyond clinching the nomination.

I’d dearly love him to win, but I just don’t see from him a strategy for converting people to his POV and uniting them behind him. After him, my choices are Trump & Carson. Carson unfortunately seems to be using his campaign as a reality show in civics education, which is not the right place for it. So that leaves just Trump.

Infidel on January 22, 2016 at 2:04 pm

The real test of the candidate is not whether he or she is conservative or liberal but whether or not the candidate is a patriot and a nationalist. The terms liberal and conservative are meaningless today because they don’t address our real problems which are the flood of illegals to our country,a crushing national debt and the loss of jobs to other countries. Trump is the only one addressing these problems.

Jerry G on January 22, 2016 at 6:26 pm

Jerry, how is Cruz not addressing them?

Infidel on January 22, 2016 at 11:07 pm

Palin’s endorsements gave a lot of republican office holders their seats in spite of what republican corporate; the GOPe did to her as VP candidate. By endorsing Trump early, she’s simply sticking her own knife in GOPe corporate’s back.

P. Aaron on January 23, 2016 at 11:03 am

Incidentally, Tel Aviv has 3,173,000 Jews approximately; New York has 2,100,000 Jews approximately. It used to be that New York had the greatest amount of Jews (I read about it when I was little), but things have changed. Also, New York had the largest population of Italians outside of Milan.

Underzog on January 23, 2016 at 4:10 pm

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