January 18, 2006, - 2:14 pm

SICK: Jordan Times on Jill Carroll & Who Deserves Beheading

By Debbie Schlussel
Check out this outrage from our “ally in the War on Terror”, Jordan.
The state-run, state-sanctioned Jordan Times spews the official position of the country’s Hashemite King Abdullah. And apparently, the official position of the Kingdom is that if you are an American citizen who supports American policy in the Middle East, and you are kidnapped by insurgents, you are the “right target.” You deserved it and should be beheaded.
But if you oppose U.S. policy in the Mid-East, LIKE JILL CARROLL DOES, then you are the “wrong target.” Check out The Jordan Times Sunday “editorial” on the Christian Science Monitor free-lancer:

The kidnappers who abducted her could not have chosen a more wrong target. True, Jill is a US citizen. But she is also more critical of US policies towards the Middle East than many Arabs. . . . Jill has been from day one opposed to the war, to the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
More than just being sympathetic with average Iraqis under war and occupation, Jill is a true believer in Arab causes.
From Arabic food to the Arabic language, Jill has always wanted to know and experience as much as possible about Arab identity, and she is keen on absorbing it, learning, understanding and respecting it.
She doesn’t just “like” Arab culture, she loves it. . . . It is simply unconscionable for any Arab to want to harm a person like her.

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Jordan Times’ Beheading Candidates: Okay, Okay, Not Okay

Nick Berg, Keith “Matt” Maupin, Jill Carroll

Predictably, the Terrorist News Network (a/k/a Al-Jazeera) is eating this up.
Oops, we almost forgot. Jill was good friends with Treasonatrix Barbie.
So, there you have it–the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan’s sickening, official view: If you are a pan-Islamist American, you deserve to live and be released by your captors. But if you are a patriotic American and not a far-lefty wacko, it’s the Nick Berg treatment for you . . . and deservedly so.
Shukran (Thank you), King Abdullah. Moumtez (Excellent).

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That woman has strange S&M fantasies. She’s probably the type that thinks the harder a man hits her, the more he loves her.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 18, 2006 at 3:27 pm

Excerpt from an article i read [commentary by your's tuly in brackets...]—
By William G. Hamilton | December 5, 2005
”THE MOST dangerous thing for a nation or an individual is to plead guilty to imaginary sins.” A century ago the Jewish thinker Ahad Ha’am penned these words. Today they seem just as compelling with the release of Marc Levin’s unnerving new film, ”Protocols of Zion,” which documents a furious resurgence in their global popularity.
The Protocols are a hatred-riddled forgery [ imported into this cuntry by Henry Ford ] that finds every malady, misfortune, and calamity winding back to a sinister plot of Jewish Elders in pursuit of world domination. For a century the Protocols have incited and virtually required violence against Jews. Because the Jews are purported to be engaged in a satanic mission, murdering them necessitates neither explanation nor guilt. This worldwide best-seller is the catalytic converter for justifying brutality under the delusional trance of victimhood.
Levin’s documentary is very much a personal awakening. From the streets of North Jersey to the jail-cells of Trenton, he encounters the ridiculous claim that no Jews died in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks [ a claim that echos in my book ]. What follows is an exposition of the latest chapter of history’s oldest, most reliable hatred — anti-Semitism.
Often documentaries favor the predigested insights of scholars, world leaders, and ivory towers. This film more credibly appraises post-9/11 urban anti-Semitism by presenting one Jew’s unfiltered confrontation with haters [ i think i do a far better job illustrating this in Jew Girl ]. Yet as his own personal journey, Levin’s street tilts slightly right with an anticorporate and ideological extremist bent — leaving virtually untouched a dramatic reemergence of left leaning European anti-Semitism and anti-Israel bias in academia. Admittedly, 21st century anti-Semitism has become too large a subject, varying from one continent to the next, to be captured in a single sitting.
An incredulous Levin wonders why the Jews are blamed so often for so much by so many. He scratches the surface of deeply seeded cultures of blame and contempt. An indoctrinated world-view rejects any assertion that a Jewish prominence in the media, policymaking, and finance is coincidental. The claim of the Protocols is validated by Jewish proximity to power and influence. [ An UNDERSTANDING of history would explain WHY this is so...but too few are willing to READ it ]
Yet simply asking ”who benefits most” from a turn of events implies flawless implementation and design by the beneficiary. Outcomes based reasoning is murky science. But any excuse will serve the hater. Jews have been hated for being capitalists and communists, separatists and assimilationists, homeless and nationalist, weak and strong.
Levin’s film localizes Jew hatred to the street and the extreme. Yet a blood-soaked history has taught that anti-Semitism is a disease for which education, talent, even genius provides no effective vaccination.
One generation rarely follows precisely a prior generation’s blueprint [ THIS is evident by Steve Malzberg's neo-conservative idiotic ranting...]. Inquisitions differed from expulsions, massacres differed from pogroms, and the Holocaust stands alone. Suicide killings represent hatred’s latest packaging as a twisted expression of sacred violence. Zealots seek to preserve hostile designs in the garb of religious conviction [and contemporary Jews should be wary of their frangible apotheosis by the "christian" Reich ]. Yet this is often little more than another form of identity theft, a ”religious opportunism” that is dishonest to motivation and dishonorable to communities of faith.
Certainly hatred for Jews is hardly the world’s only hatred [ but as Dostoevsky pointed out---Love thy neighbours but hate the Jews---has long been an unwritten commandment that "christians" were able to follow ]. There is an egalitarian distribution today of crimes against humanity. What haters share is a reflexive tendency to externalize responsibility for their condition and their plight. They also share a venomous small-soulness that diminishes their humanity, perverting the purpose and promise of life itself. The world’s great religious traditions won’t continue to abide such no-fault hostility.

EminemsRevenge on January 18, 2006 at 5:17 pm

The Third Reich was based on occult beliefs, NOT Christian traditions. The Nazis had nothing but contempt for the Christian religion.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 18, 2006 at 5:51 pm

KnightOfTheImpaler is incorrect.
“In a speech celebrating Germanyís exit from the League of Nations, Hitler again maintained that the Third Reich was actively implementing a Christian agenda: ìAlong with the fight for a purer morality we have taken upon ourselves the struggle against the decomposition of our religion. We have therefore taken up the struggle against the Godless movement, and not just with a few theoretical declarations; we have stamped it out. And above all we have dragged the priests out of the lowlands of the political party struggle and have brought them back into the church.î
This declaration was quite consistent with Hitlerís speeches earlier in the year and also with the basic attitude he laid out ó privately as well as publicly ó in the ìtime of struggle.î Insisting that Nazism as a state would not distinguish between Protestant and Catholic, he recognized only a common supra-Christian faith. True to his promise, Hitler defended Christianity against the ìGodlessî movement, outlawing the Socialist and the Communist parties very early after the Seizure of Power.”
So like Bush panders to simpletons that can’t think for themselves, so did Hitler. You’re in great company: force me to show ID, take away my guns, take away my private life and send in the FBI to conduct sweeps of who I’m sleeping with to make sure they’re not the same gender I am, only let some people get married, put the rest of ‘em in the back of the bus, and pretend you’re the real patriots.
The founding fathers are gagging on their own vomit watching all of this unfold from above, ignorance really must be bliss for some of you.

jjames on January 18, 2006 at 6:41 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_mysticism
Nazism was completely based on the witchcraft of people like the Thule Society and only tolerated Christianity because that’s the religion most of the German population was.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 18, 2006 at 6:58 pm

We can thank the Germans for the Christmas tree, a infusion of paganism into Christianity, like the Easter Bunny, a god of fertility.
But the Nazis were pretty hard on the Catholics, primarily the Bavarians, that didn’t go along with the program. The Vatican transfered priests sympathetic to the Nazis out of the Pacific Theater so that they would not collaborate prior to WWII.
Regarding civil rights, don’t make me laugh, more like uncivil rights.

code7 on January 18, 2006 at 7:11 pm

There’s nothing wrong with Pagan European traditions infused into Christianity, because it’s still Christian at its core. But the Nazis were into some bizarre occult stuff. It’s funny how the ACLU types attack the Pagan roots of some Christian traditions but wouldn’t have a problem with actual Pagan religions on their own. They are not anti-”separation of church and state,” they are not even anti-religion per se, they are plainly and simply anti-Christian.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 18, 2006 at 7:24 pm

Debbie says “So, there you have it–the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan’s sickening, official view: If you are a pan-Islamist American, you deserve to live and be released by your captors. But if you are a patriotic American and not a far-lefty wacko, it’s the Nick Berg treatment for you . . . and deservedly so.”
Show me where Jordan officially endorses beheadings… you can’t do it. Really Debbie, you make a bizarre statement like that you really should have something to back it up.

James Scearce on January 18, 2006 at 8:01 pm

“But the Nazis were into some bizarre occult stuff. It’s funny how the ACLU types attack the Pagan roots of some Christian traditions but wouldn’t have a problem with actual Pagan religions on their own.”
Nobody is attacking the pagan roots of Christian traditions. They’re just pointing out that there is one.
And as a “ACLU type”, I feel obligated to point out that I’m neither a secularist, atheist, or pagan. Your broad brush strokes would be better served painting the fence, Daniel-San.
And no, I don’t have a problem with pagans either. I believe that our forefathers were right to allow citizens of the United States the right to worship how they see fit. You’re the one that appears to have a problem with people who have different beliefs than you.
And thats okay, I believe you have the right to be arrogant, ignorant, and xenophobic. That’s what makes the United States so great.

jjames on January 18, 2006 at 9:30 pm

The United States does not have a state religion and it is unconstitutional to actually go so far as to persecute a religious group like the Nazis did and like they do in Muslim countries, but that does not mean we are not supposed to use Christian traditions as guidelines. That’s because, while we are a country of different races and nationalities, culturally this country is more connected to European traditions than any other part of the world. There are three kinds of people in this country: those who hate it because of that fact, those who have trouble admitting that fact, and those who don’t.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 18, 2006 at 9:54 pm

The terrorist loves me because I couldn’t care less about Christianity but would shoot, kill, burn and slice my head off because I support the Jews

KOAJaps on January 19, 2006 at 5:25 am

“There are three kinds of people in this country: those who hate it because of that fact, those who have trouble admitting that fact, and those who don’t.”
You left one out; the kinds of people who know that the founding fathers were Enlightenment era Diests. The United States was not founded on Christian Traditions.

jjames on January 19, 2006 at 8:50 am

My underworld friends tell me that this is a hoax/rope-a-dope and that ‘Munich II’ will be based on a terrorist culture groupie named Carol
Jill who will be freed by “compassionate Islamic
decapitators”.

jaywilton on January 19, 2006 at 10:14 am

Bin Laden has been marginalized and now he wants a truce. His truce is about as flyable as the ol spruce goose; he is a late night joke for Jay, and Jimmy, come on, no deal for the man with his head up his caboose. Should we really care what he has to say anymore? Is the racist vagrant still relevant in the world today? He took responsibility for the recent attacks but who really knows if he had any part in them, he has also promised new attacks, but is he really able to produce any longer. He is like the guy who finishes fourth on American Idol, you know who he was for a while but then he just goes back to being a nobody. When Osama talks, does anyone really listen anymore?
Raymond B
http://www.voteswagon.com

raymondb.voteswagon.com on January 19, 2006 at 8:24 pm

Deism was never an actual religion, it was a controversial approach to religion followed by some (not all) of the founding fathers. The religion it was applied to was Christianity or various offshoots of it. It would not make sense to apply it to any kind of Islam. There were the founding fathers of the United States, the discoverers of America, the ones before that who contributed to Western Civilization or saved it from its enemies. That is the tradition this country was founded on, a sovereign nation but a member of the larger extended family of the West. The founding fathers wouldn’t have even had to think about that.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 19, 2006 at 10:31 pm

If the terrorists are smart they will release her. She would then get more publicity than Sicko Sheehan by blasting Bush and blaming him for her kidnapping.

The_Man on January 20, 2006 at 12:15 am

Back to poor Jill who should have never gone up the hill to camel country with Ahab Muhammed or whoever, what can I say, she’s just looking for excitement in the arms of the wrong kind of men. She’s a freak, the girl’s a freak, the girl never misses a beat. Sorry, I’m just getting into the new genre of P-Funk political commentary recently started by Mayor Ray Nagin.

KnightoftheImpaler on January 20, 2006 at 12:58 am

M+M’s Rev(real name Maynard) is going to teach.1st on his list: lesson 1 How to be a real jew. Hey Maynard (M+M’s rev.) why not teach the black youth ….. again you told folks on this site that you will be on stage for Louis FARAFUC>>K soon.Please let us know

danny on January 20, 2006 at 6:05 pm

M+M”s (maynard) And don’t forget ,teach us how to be a jew in your own words right? But most likly not.You were told how to decide what a jew should be. You and Louis Farifu.k are of the same tree.How’s the youth,that you turn your back on, or teach what a jew should be(in your eyes).What’s the name of your book?

danny on January 20, 2006 at 7:05 pm

You quote someone saying “Jill has been from day one opposed to the war, to the invasion and occupation of Iraq” as if it were a bad thing. Perhaps you have yet to grasp what most people on the planet, including William F Buckley, have figured out. The war is a failure, just as bright people like Jill figured out before we sent thousands of Americans to die invading a country that was no threat to us. Since when is not being stupid Anti-American?

real_democrat on March 31, 2006 at 10:10 pm

I view the king of Jordan’s view as legitimate. You have to realize how much Arabs and Muslims in the region resent our presence.
Now, I actually agree with Thomas A. Ricks that the war in Iraq is winnable, but not with Bush in charge. As someone who has studied our military misadventure in Iraq, he is as great an authority as any, and we should follow his reccommendations. In fact, as Seymour Hersh of The New Yorker has reported in an interview on Democracy Now! Donald Rumsfeld has begun to lose faith in this war.
People like you need to reach a higher plane of truth. I don’t know who you are, this is my first time visiting your site. But, I am fairly educated on the conflict.
And, no, I am not patriotic all the time. I believe in the national vision of the late Paul Wellstone (God bless his soul), and I feel that nationalism can be dangerous and blinding, especially when the people in power have such low moral fiber. God isn’t going to save us, as far as I know. The only ones that God has ever allegedly saved are the Jews, and look at the state that Israel is in.
Bush and his cohorts will never be the leaders that we need at this important time in our history. They are international criminals.
On a lighter note, the computer that I am currently typing this on, though a Dell, will not burst into flames anytime soon.

Peter on August 15, 2006 at 7:17 pm

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