November 14, 2006

Count Me in the Giuliani Camp

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By Debbie Schlussel

Every day, I'm asked whom I'm supporting for President in 2008. I've looked over the potential candidates, and on the Republican side, I believe the best, by far, is Rudy Giuliani, who took the first step toward a run, yesterday, with an exploratory committee.

(On the Democratic side, the best guy who's been talked about as a Presidential contender is Senator Evan Bayh from Indiana, who truly understands the Islamic threat and is a more moderate Democrat--which is why he'll never get the nomination.)

Yes, I'm pro-life and against gay rights, where Giuliani shares neither of my views on these issues. But, to me, the terrorism issue is far more important, #1 on the list. Right now, we have a President who is pro-life, against gay rights, and pretends to be the "Counterterrorism Prez." But, actually, he's done nothing substantive on any of these issues.

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Rudy Giuliani:
Then-NYC Mayor Had Guts to Stop Yasser Arafat's Stateside Escapades

So, I'll take the guy who I know will have the guts to do what Bush does not. I believe Giuliani is that man. He's proven that time and again, whether it was when he told terror-supporting Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal to take his $10 million and shove it (right after 9/11) or when he severely restricted Yasser Arafat's travel in New York (kicking him out of a concert).

A man who will do those things vs. Bush PC on Islam is the man we need to run this country. He's probably also the man who can handle the illegal alien problem and actually see to it that something is done about it. Not sure on his position on guest workers, but we'll soon enough find out.

It will be a difficult matter for a pro-choice, pro-gay rights candidate (and, again, I oppose Giuliani on these issues) to get the GOP nomination. We'll see.

So for those who want to know who I'm supporting for Prez, I say, "Viva Rudy." America's Mayor has what it takes to be America's President.

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Gutsy Giuliani Tells Saudi Prince Alwaleed Where to Go

Posted by Debbie at November 14, 2006 02:04 PM

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The only problem i have with Rudy Giuliai as president is his history of refusal to turn criminal illegal immigrants over to deportation authorities following incarceration and his attempt to declare NYC as a so called "Sanctuary City". I would think that any municipality that outright delcares that he will not obey federal law- should therefore be denied access to any federal funds.
But obviously I'll take anyone over Hillary.

INTERESTING. I DID NOT KNOW THAT. IF THAT'S THE CASE, I WILL RE-EVALUATE.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Posted by: MarySJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 02:19 PM

He's also great on lowering taxes and his no-nonsense approach to crime. Although he's a social liberal on some issues, he's far and above John McCrazy and Hillary "Black Panther Defender" Rodham.

Unless someone has a video of Hillary ambushing a bunch of kids in a schoolyard somewhere, she'll get the Dhimmi-crat nomination. The reason why I say so is that her base knows that she's a phony on her moderate national security stances and that she'll revert to her usual anti-American, socialist agenda (i.e., Hillary's socialized healthcare plan) once she regains the power of the presidency (remember Bill said; "Buy one, get two"?).

I predict that Conservatives, Republicans, and Independents will vote for Giuliani over Hillary in order to preserve the Republic. Think about it: If Hillary ever regains power, the Clintons don't have to worry about running again because they'd both have their turn, hence, watch out for Socialism.

Posted by: Thee_Bruno [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 02:29 PM

If the GOP wants to win in 2008 they will nominate Rudy G. (My former mayor of New York). If they want to stay ideologically pure but lose they will nominate Newt Gingrich.

Posted by: Ripper [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 02:40 PM

Debbie:
As a New Yorker I am not aware of Rudy turning NYC in to a sanctuary city. I believe his predecessor David Dinkins or his successor Michael Bloomberg talked about doing that (or even Ed Koch).

Posted by: Ripper [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 02:42 PM

Even I, an OMGZLIBERALLOL, would vote for Guiliani :)

Posted by: FSM-FTW!(descent) [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 04:10 PM

Rudy for President; Romney for VP; Santorum for Secretary of Defense; Bolton for Secretary of State. Giuliani would draw in the moderates, Romney the conservatives. Plus two no-nonsense guys who see our predicament correctly and are willing to hang tough.

Posted by: PMarc [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 04:26 PM

Ripper-
I am a former NY'er myself- and while I always admit I might be wrong- int his case I am pretty confident. The initial idea of making NY a safe haven for criminal illegals was started by Ed Koch- but was also floated by the Giuliani camp. If you read Michelle Malkins column from Nov 10th, 2006- she even references it.
While I admire some if not most of Giulianis policies I am skeptical of his track record regarding illegals. My husband is a Customs & Border Protection Officer and the issue is a regular topic in our home. When it comes to our president- I guess we have to learn to take what we can get. And I doubt we would find anyone with a backbone on that issue who is electable (especially when the illegals are voting in our elections w/o shame). Giuliani HAD the backbone when he was AG. Maybe it will grow back. We live in hope........

Posted by: MarySJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 04:29 PM

"Yes, I'm pro-life and against gay rights"

What do you mean against gay rights? Are we talking concentration camps or just against special protections under anti-discrimination laws? I apologize if gay rights is shorthand for something else but I've haven't ever heard of anyone respectable describing themselves as against gay rights.

OF COURSE, I MEAN SPECIAL PROTECTIONS.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Posted by: Big E [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 04:43 PM

I think Giulani would be a good candidate for the Democrats.
I cannot begin to understand how people think he could or should win the nomination for the Republicans.
Being a Catholic,I could never support a candidate who is is completely pro-abortion, and even supports the barbaric practice known as partial birth abortion.Don't even get me started on his personal life of which we all raked Bill Clinton over the coals.
I know it's a social issue but I stand by my principles which is something we can't say about our elected officials.
He's pro-Third World immigration and anti-Second Amendment.Giuliani made himself a national pointman for unrestricted immigration, chiding doubters and ordering his bureaucracy not to turn in illegal immigrants who reported crimes or other abuses.
No he's not me and for what it's worth I am looking at Mitt Romney.

I DON'T LIKE MITT ROMNEY, BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE WHO CHIDED AMERICANS FOR BEING PRO-AMERICAN AT THE SALT LAKE CITY OLYMPICS! HIS COMMENTS WERE AN OUTRAGE. PLUS, HE WASTED A TON OF OUR TAX MONEY ON THE OLYMPICS. THAT TELLS ME HOW HE'D WASTE MONEY AS PREZ. HE'S NOT AS CONSERVATIVE AS YOU THINK HE IS. ALL OF HIS RELATIVES HERE IN MICHIGAN ARE WELL KNOWN FOR BEING MODERATES.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Posted by: California Tammy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 04:52 PM

Big E: I'm pretty sure she means special rights that go above and beyond what any other American currently has as rights.

Posted by: DudeSteak [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 04:52 PM

Yes, Giuliani is pro-amnesty. That's why I was kind of shocked to read Debbie's headline and had to pop in.

I love Giuliani on just about everything except his pro-amnesty, pro-gun control stances. But winning a war against terror, while losing America through backdoor illegal alien amnesty, is just not acceptable.

I could care less about any of his social stances on gay, divorce or abortion issues.

Let's do a Tancredo/Buchanan ticket! :)

4 years of those two will set us on the right track.

Posted by: Digger [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 05:28 PM

Dems and reps are the problem, not an answer. But if its a choice, Digger is right. NO AMNESTY.

Posted by: jeebie [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 05:38 PM

Thanks for the insight it looks like it's back to the drawing board..Are you planning on running?

Posted by: California Tammy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 06:20 PM

Thanks for the insight it looks like it's back to the drawing board..Are you planning on running?

Posted by: California Tammy [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 06:21 PM

When Rudy was my mayor he stood up to the degenerate terrorist thug Yasser Arabfat. He was unafraid of the reaction of the DemonRats and their Radical Left friends. He will defend this country from Arabfat's ilk. Hitlery will not. She will try to kill our enemies with kindness. Rudy is the only Republican who can win in 2008. The most important thing for the next President to do is to stand strong against the various enemies who want to destroy us. For me, all other issues are secondary.

Posted by: FreethinkerNY [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 07:22 PM

Freethinker, you had way too many ridiculous puns in that paragraph. When will conservatives learn that politics is less about catchphrases and more about actual issues.

Posted by: FSM-FTW!(descent) [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 07:48 PM

Rudy will not be running two years from now. The next President won't be Hillary, either. The job will go to someone that comes out of nowhere like Carter or Clinton. Some slick willy who charm the masses. Rudy might make it as far as that General from the last election that no one can remember now. California took a punch in the face and a kick in the nuts from the last Amnesty. I promise the rest of the country, "You will feel our pain!" if another one is passed. Illegal immigrants have fanned out across the country by the millions.

Posted by: code7 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 10:34 PM

The picture is not clear for me yet. At this point I don't see any Republican deserving my vote for 08. Of course I will never vote for the other side. I'm going to wait and see, I will not endorse anybody at this moment.

I have someone in mind, though: Tom Tancredo. He might or might not run. He's still unknown to the general public. Tancredo is the only one who will have my voice in a heartbeat if he decides to run for president.

As for the others, let's wait and see.

http://tancredo.house.gov/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo

Posted by: Independent Conservative [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 14, 2006 10:49 PM

Count me in with Rudy. Anyone that could end the constant blare of car horns and non-emergency sirens in NYC is one tough guy. I am an ex NYC'er and I could not beleive the difference Rudy made to the city.

Rudy is no nonsense. He'll be tough on the things that can hurt us (terrorists) and won't waste time and resources on things that can't. (gays).

Why do you hate gays so much? Did they kill a relative or ancestor of yours? Debbie, are you a closet lesbo? Did you have a Lesbo experience that pains you so much that you need to spew hatred to Gays?

Trust me on this - I lived in the SF Bay Area for 20+ years - The gay areas were and are the safest areas in town. I knew straight women that liked living in the Castro because it was safe and clean.

Gays are not the Bogey Man. Terrorists, Neo Nazis, sleazy Neo Cons, Fascists, Anti Semites and Gay Bashers are the Bogey Men.

BTW... Evan Bayh can get the Dem nomination, especially now that the Moderates have left the Repubs for the Dem Party. Nancy et al know why they now control congress - moderates put them there.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS. I SIMPLY DO NOT BELIEVE THEY DESERVE SPECIAL RIGHTS. WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR PRIVATE LIVES IS NOT MY CONCERN, UNLESS THEY ARE IN THE MILITARY.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Posted by: Johnny Two Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 01:28 AM

I also have an issue witht he fact that when it became obvious that he was going to lose his NY senatorial bid- how he backed out of the election citing "health reasons". Dan Frisa was a lamb to the slaughter.

Posted by: MarySJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 09:20 AM

NICE TO SEE
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Hi Deb! It's nice to see you supporting a moderate Republican. It looks good on you. :+)

Posted by: There is NO Santa Claus [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 09:25 AM

Rudy is an interesting guy and our new blog will be following him closely.

It is very early, but, it is interesting to ponder how many NE states he may be able to pick off.

http://giuliani2008-blogger.blogspot.com/

Posted by: bloggerxyz [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 11:24 AM

I couldn't agree more. Guiliani is the class of the GOP field. Either that or we had better get used to saying "President Hillary Clinton."

Posted by: Missouri Mule [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 11:27 AM

I'm totally for Rudi and back him on everything he believes in so far. Even pro choice and I'm not against gay rights so i might as well be for it. so he is definately my number one candidate.

Posted by: Avatar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 12:56 PM

Except for amnesty of illegals. If any of that is true, that could be a deal breaker...

Posted by: Avatar [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 01:19 PM


TODAY the National Post ran yet another article on Canadian identity…Yet again ENGLISH CANADA is waffling and confused about whether or not Canada is even a nation! ENGLISH CANADIANS don’t know who they are, what they stand for, or where they’re going! That has never been a problem of French-Canadiens.

We have always known…

WE ARE Canada–

That’s what I like about Rudy G…he is American, no apologies and no regrets. He’ll take up the fight against ISLAMIC TERRORISTS. He LIVED 9/11…he won’t forget. He’ll find a way to win that necessary war…which will call for much more tactical and psychological warfare and violence, not less:
http://www.torsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Worthington_Peter/2006/11/15/2364833-sun.html and http://www.torsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Mansur_Salim/2006/11/15/2364830-sun.html

Any other Republican leader would only be a DARK HORSE in the next election.

Too bad our Rudy G friend lost his Catholicism somewhere along the way to becoming a great statesman–

Remember and NEVER FORGET…if you are PRO-CHOICE you are OUTSIDE OF The Church!

BECAUSE…what is becoming human…is human already~

Mr. Rudy G, you are in the Church…not above it~

Posted by: The Canadien [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 05:33 PM

How about Newt and Giuliani? or Newt and Tancredo.. I think Buchanan is excessive. WE don't need yet another Baker at the helm..

Posted by: lonewolf [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 15, 2006 08:05 PM

Debbie you are beyond homophobic. No one deserves special rights, yet you are ok with taking rights away from a group of people because of their sexual orientation.

Unfortunately, because of bigoted people like you, Civil Rights laws are needed to emphasize that it is not ok to take away rights of people without due process.

Gays do not deserve special rights, but neither do married people. Married people should not be given special privileges that others cannot have.

BTW, when I went through Marine Corps OCS I knew of two gays in my class, one in my platoon, and another in my company, but different platoon. I am certain of the one in my platoon, because he told me so.

I would turn him down the same as I would turn you down, not my type. That’s all there is to it. No big deal, but then I am not a homophobe.

But, these two guys were in the top third of the class, and I would not have hesitated to want them in my combat company. They had everything you could want in a military leader. They both graduated, as I did. Although I never saw them again, I am sure they became outstanding officers.

And yet, you would deny them their right to serve their country because of sexual orientation. There is nothing in the US Constitution that says Homos, or any other group cannot serve in the military or cannot otherwise enjoy any right or privilege granted to any other group.

Homos have no rights only in the minds of Homophobes like you, not in the US Constitution.

Posted by: Johnny Two Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 16, 2006 12:06 AM

"But, these two guys were in the top third of the class ... "

Uh huh. I bet they ironed their boxers too.

"They had everything you could want in a military leader."

Except TRUTHFULNESS obviously. :rolleyes

"They both graduated ... I am sure they became outstanding officers."

And then, while enjoying Fleet Week activities in NYC, they were caught in flagrante with a couple of sailors.

In the Infantry they kept a low profile - mostly as medics. No one cared as long as they kept it, and their hands, to themselves.

Posted by: Rocketman [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 16, 2006 07:16 AM

Count Rocketman as another homophobe. Nuff said.

Posted by: Johnny Two Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 16, 2006 02:14 PM

SPEAKING of Gay Rights...I'm sure Rudy G would be happy with the latest development at WAL-MART.

A post by Kathy Shaidle reveals MAL-WART...has finally responded to the GAY MOVEMENT with a big "thumbs-and butts up" !!!

NOT CONTENT with exploiting their workers, they NOW want to exploit IMPRESSIONABLE TEENS!

WAL-MART is now...today...ACTIVELY PROMOTING an EXPLICIT teen book that AGGRESSIVELY preaches and teaches QUEERDOM...LESBIANISM to unsuspecting teens: http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52999

Posted by: The Canadien [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 17, 2006 08:11 AM

I believe Duncan Hunter would be a strong candidate for POTUS. He's pro-gun, pro-business, anti-illegal (wall @ the border...works in Israel, why not here??), pro-military, and anti-terrorist!!
PLUS there's no pics of him dressed as a rockette or Marilyn Monroe floating around the internet. (wait til D.U. gets hold of those!!)
I've suggested him to Debbie before, and would like to see her re-evaluate him as a candidate.

Posted by: Grinchnet [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 7, 2007 04:26 PM

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