Barack Obama was originally named “Baraka.” It is not an African name. It's an Arabic word meaning “blessed” and comes directly from the Koran.

BTW, Obama lied about his father's religious denomination during the DNC Convention in 2004. He said his father was a non-practicing Christian. Let's see how the LIBERAL media uncovers this lie, as well. Don't hold your breath.

There's a whole BOATLOAD of info about Obama's father and how it runs totally opposite of what he's telling people.

BTW, notice how Obama's father abandoned him and his mother when he was just a kid (he used Islam's Sharia Law and its tenets about divorce), yet he feels compelled to follow his father's roots while totally neglecting his white mother's heritage and religion. His mother was responsible for who he is today, yet not a peep about her. Not a peep from the LIBERAL media, neither. What a typical, LIBERAL piece of shit he is!

BTW, check out his voting record in the U.S. Senate. The ADA rated him to the left of Kennedy and Hillary. Yet, the media makes no mention of this.

Debbie: can you remove some of these "off-topic" posts, if possible, such as the one before mine.

Obama recently apologized for a sweetheart Chicago real estate deal where he bought a house at a big discount and also bought a neighboring lot for a very small amount. The deal was done with a shady Syrian businessman now under indictment (the Syrian bought the house next door), who brokered the cut-rate deal on Obama's house).

What's even more interesting is that the Syrian is business partners with Elijah Mohammad's son. Is Obama involved with the Nation of Islam in some way?

Obama's mother was a Muslim-loving and highly unstable wackjob who couldn't care for her son. His half-sister is a very, very lefty high school and university teacher here in Hawaii. She really goes for the multiculti and feminist stuff.

At best, Obama as President will give you extreme Muslim pandering and Carteresque hostility to Israel. Given the choice (and I'm a Republican) I'd rather take the Jew-hater that I know in Clinton than the Muslim lefty I don't in Obama.

Oy GEVALT!!!

Since i read you 'column' Torah-tically in "reverse" order, i.e., backwards from your latest post---i HAVE to ask YOU what the same question the Fox "news" dudes refuse to answer---do YOU pay any attention to WHAT you write???

In Judaism, the religious "trait" is passed down from the mother...but in born-again Fourth Reich Jewis fundamentalism, it seems that ANY parent that was a Muslim passes down that tainted blood WORTHY of a final solution...WTF!!!!

It takes a BILLION Muslim exterminations to get rid of the "terrorist" problem, and now you advocate CONVERTED children should be shaked & baked??? E-mail me with your repy/link honey...THIS makes ol' A.H. look like a piker in comparison...HE only final solutionized SIX MILLION Jews, YOU seem to be advocating the genocide of the billion known Muslims AND their relatives who swayed from the path of Satan?

sonomaca,

You vomited;

"Debbie: can you remove some of these "off-topic" posts, if possible, such as the one before mine."

Are you referring to my post? If so, please indicate exactly where my post is off-topic.

And, if you are, you are brain-dead. Debbie's piece was about Obama and his being the son of a Muzlum. Debbie also brought up Obama's mother in the same piece. I also posted about him, his Muzlum father, and his mother. If anyone is posting off-topic, it is YOU (applying your standards) with your "Syrian businessman and the son of Elijah Mohammad" post.

Check your brain at the door.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who has a problem with this column, Em's Revenge. For some reason I'm gonna try to be more diplomatic about it, though.

Debbie, just because the guy has a connection to Islam does not that he's sworn fealty to Bin Laden or anything.

Show us some real evidence that he's engaged in serious wrongdoing, or leave it alone. Don't just shout "Look out, a Muslim, he'll destroy us all! And he's named HUSSEIN!!!"

And I hope you don't send him an e-mail saying "Happy Ramadan, you muslim bastard!"

Bruno: she removed the post in question. Yours then slipped down above mine. I was not referring to yours.

Why does Obama lie or distort his background and beliefs? He'll never be president. He's running for vice-president.
He's half white but calls himself black. That is an affirmative action thing. It pays off big time to get yourself categorized as black.

Obama = Black Osama with a touch of taqiyya, all in the interests of his father's (and his) "religion" of PISS.

Rob Brown - If he becomes President, everyone in the congress will soon be swearing by the shit manual known as koran, and we'll have sharia law everywhere. Its as simple as that - you don't need to be a genius to figure out. Look at Keith Ellison and Dearborn if you need proven examples.

sonomaca,

Thank you for explaining.

Had Debbie not removed that post, I would've understood. Please accept my apologies. I hope you can understand why I posted what I did.

To Rob Brown, a/k/a, the islamic worshipping swine,

It's not; "Happy Ramadan, you Muslim bastard."

It's; "Happy Ramadama-Ding-Dong, you Muzlum bastard."

Please get your fabricated, non-fast, Muzlum holidays in order.

BTW, this is America. We don't celebrate pagan holidays such as; Ramadama-Ding-Dong.

Go back to your Muzlum country buried somewhere among Africa, the Middle East, and Hell.

No offense folks, but why do people even take this guy seriously? He is a complete joke. The info here you all bring up just scratches the surface. His islamic roots are something he wants to run from, but who knows how sincere he is with the muslim name he retains? I mean if you want to disown your muslim-ness--why would you retain such a sickening name? Barak Hssein Obama--I want to be puke.

Beyond everththing else--what happened in New Hampshire a week ago when he thought he was off camera (but wasn't)shows how far-fetched it is that this guy could be a big leaguer--his whining about his ears of all things. (Sorry sensitive ones-- I would NEVER bring this up except that if reveals so much because of his REACTION to a stupid comment) People take pot shots when you are in the public eye--so "welcome Mr. Obama--and get ready." Rush discussed this last week and I could only shake my head--"are you kidding me?" Sad to say Barak's sensitivity to a silly thing like this shows he is a still just little boy emotionally. Presidential candidate--give me a break! Read the Rush transcript here on this link.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121406/content/sexy_rock_star_obama_whines_about_his_ears.guest.html

Did I mention that I also don't vote for the arrogant? The Muslims or the Muslims sympathizers?

Before even learning that his middle name is a Muslim name, somehow I never liked watching or listening to that Omama OBanana, or whatever his name is. Somehow, when I come across news about this guy, I switch channels or close the window browser.

I have enough experience, I can tell from the first sight whether I like a person or not, whether a person is a fake or not.

And frankly, I do not like that Banana Hussy Obamba.

I think he's an uncle Tom in the making, butt-kisser, arrogant, fake, opportunist bastard.

And guess what, he still can be something because...you got it...the American voters are the most idiotic voters ever, um, maybe after the Spaniards!

In America, as elsewhere in the stupid Western world, idiot voters vote for the look not for the substance.

That's why this country, and the West in general, will go down the drain and Islam will take over, if the voters don't wise up.

This is America; we don't impugn the sins of the Father against the son. Ron Reagan's father was a serious boozer. JFK's father was an avowed anti-semite; JFK was nothing of the sort.

I probably wouldn't vote for Obama as he's a bit of a lightweight, but last I checked this is America, not Europe(where your Father's station in life is vital).

Who gives a flying camel what the Islamists think about Obama. Obama visited northern israel during the recent Lebanon war, proudly extolling Israel's right to self defence. I would personally trust Barack on Israel as opposed to the Clinton's.

Vote against him because he's too liberal and/or a light weight; not because his Father's ethnicity was Islamic. Of course, I agree 'they' will see it that way, but who gives a flying turd, maybe they'll get angina then next time Barack visits israel, or choke on camel dung.

As a Jew, I would never vote for or against a canidate just on their religion; I'd vote for a Hirsi Ali in a second for President if I got the chance. But don't blame the son for the sins of the Father. It is immaterial.

I agree with Independent Conservative. Can I borrow "Banana Hussy Obamba"-? I can't stop laughing! Unfortunately, I am a political junkie so I happened to catch Banana questioning Condi Rice on C-span. Barbara (leftist freak) Boxer had just finished raking Condi over the coals and being a total bitch. When it was Banana's turn, I listened carefully to get a sense of the guy. He started with a lot of b.s. friendliness and then asked her a few meaningless questions. I really did not get a sense of much thinking going on. Of course he could have been avoiding the appearance of hostility towards Condi, but he still seemed *very* superficial. I keep hearing how he's exciting to listen to, etc. Well, maybe in a prepared speech written for him. I am really thinking he's a lightweight-a well packaged one though. As far as the ears comment, that is another problem. He is going to need to let those things roll off his back and if he can't do that, forget the presidency, he'll lose it during the campaign. IMO, Bill C. will take him out if he is too threatening to Hillary anyway. They will use him if they can or need to, but if they don't, he'll be taken out. Even Oprah won't be able to help him. Also, I have heard some references to some sort of problems he had in his past, anyone know anything about that?

I just read the Rush transcript, thank you BB.
Based on Obama's attempt to dodge the middle name thing, I think he does realize it could be a problem. He's going to say it's meaningless, but I think he knows it's not.

>>I agree with Independent Conservative. Can I borrow "Banana Hussy Obamba"-? I can't stop laughing! -CarpeDiem<<

Yes, you can borrow my "Banana Hussy Obamba."

I should've put a little R next to it, though.

Oh well, it's OK. I don't like that kind of banana anyway.

Borat Hussein Osama ...
Hm-m-m ...

Will he become a president of the United Soviet Socialist States of America in the future?

" ... just because the guy has a connection to Islam does not that he's sworn fealty to Bin Laden or anything."

Be that as it may, beware the charismatic leader who also happens to be an empty suit.

The daily premature Obasms by the media are a real hoot. He DOES fit the MSM-preferred type of Dem politicians - all form and no substance ala BillyJeff Clinton.

Having said THAT, the destruction of all Muslims was recently posited satirically by a blogger who was quickly banished by his server at the insistence of CAIR. Much like J. Swift's "A Modest Proposal", the proposed solution was made tongue in cheek. Good satire however DOES have a grain or two of truth to it.

And NO - I would never vote for a follower of Islam. America will soon enough be overrun with 'em.

~(Ä)~

Right on Debbie! once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You are also right about the way people look at this guy in the Mideast. CAIR and other muslim associations in the US under the motto 'Wahed Minna' meaning 'one of us'. I believe that blogs for the right need to start spreading these facts about him right now to keep him from getting momentum, in addition to fighting off Hillary. It will be so ironic that we spent billions of dollars to remove Saddam HUSSEIN as president of Iraq to have our own President or VP Hussein in two years.

This is a parody, right? Nobody can be this braindead, can they?

OMGZ FUNNY NAME LOL.

seriously though, I think your reactions is a bit ridiculous. But whatever.

And atlas, they're all being serious :\

Biorabbi: "This is America; we don't impugn the sins of the Father against the son."

Hear, hear!

I don't think I'll dignify the posts specifically addressed to me with responses since most of 'em are just too stupid to deserve one.

Rob Brown puked all over his keyboard, then typed;

"I don't think I'll dignify the posts specifically addressed to me with responses since most of 'em are just too stupid to deserve one."

I'm waiting for just ONE of your posts to be accurate or anything but pro-islamist.

BTW, biorabbi said;

"Obama visited northern israel during the recent Lebanon war, proudly extolling Israel's right to self defence."

That's all well and good, but you're talking about someone who already lies like a rug about his father. Most Democraps voice security for Israel, but always end up siding with the Muzlums.

Biorabbi als said;

"Vote against him because he's too liberal and/or a light weight; not because his Father's ethnicity was Islamic."

Again, all well and good, however, this guy is PREOCCUPIED with his dead Muzlum father and is always LYING about him, and about what a wonderful "Kenyan prince" he was. Obama is not running away from his Muzlum roots...he's running towards them because he knows that the LIBERALS in this country are pro-islamic. As I said before; LIBERALS hate religion, but they love Islam.

So, why don't the both of you get off your high horses and smell the coffee.

DS wrote:

" ... if Hillary Clinton offers him the Vice Presidential candidacy on her ticket (which he certainly wouldn't turn down)? "

i'd love to see that ticket,
we could use another Reagan/Mondale election ;-))

exdemexlib

RE: Why does Obama lie or distort his background and beliefs?
He's half white but calls himself black. That is an affirmative action thing. It pays off big time to get yourself categorized as black.

It's only recently i started calling myself Jamaicarican in honour of my Puerto Rican heritage on my mother's side, until recently i either referred to myself as Black or Jamaican!

When i returned to this cuntry in 1965, the only race i knew of was the HUMAN race...Jamaica wasn't into all that crap y'all practice...but when i went to visit my mother in Jersey the following spring i was called NIGGER for the first time in my life, even though i LOOK more Puerto Rican!!!

Didn't even KNOW what the word meant, but quickly learnt that the only 'affirmative action' CRACKERS believe in is a noose.

Lynch Obama and shoot Hillary??? THAT ain't gonna change the fact that the chickens are coming home to roost.

I used to believe, being from a time when balling up under your desk and bracing for a nuclear attack was practiced every week, that communism would slowly but surely overwhelm America ...and that we the people were aiding and abetting the theft of our own freedoms became evident when one day, for no apparent reason, no morning prayer took place, followed by removal of the bible from the classroom and accelerating with abortion on demand being contrived by the supreme court.

It seems weve added one evil after another, continuing down the path of no judgements and acceptance of even the most aberrant behaviour and the same warmed over commies are with us, only lying and hiding behind "the children" or the "opressed:.

After 9/11 when war was the only response left to us and we actually did something about the attack, i was heartened. Now comes the time when the most serious of decisions are to fall, not on Bush, but on the next president of the United States. There is no room for political correctness or acting like a multicultural stooge towards the enemy as im certain Hillary or Obama or any democrat would surely do.

Muslim roots or not, politically speaking Obamas no different than electing any other self righteous leftie narcissist who seeks power only to change America into a utopian communist state. This is reason enough to discard the man.

I read an article by an older man that reminded us not to put pen to paper in a way that would defy explanation years down the road after simmering tempers had cooled. Maybe, maybe not.

But this much is clear..islamic fundamentalism will overwhelm America if the wrong types of people are elected to run our nation. I agree with the person who pointed out that people are stupid and shallow, voting for what looks good disregarding either content or consequence.

I saw a bumper sticker the other day " Home of the free..because of the brave" No truer words have graced a bumper.

You all are idiots. Who cares what his name is, yeah, his voting record is liberal, hate him for that. But who f*cking cares that once upon a time his dad ran into muslims. The man is a self-proclaimed christian. And the ear thing, anyone with half a brain can see that it was only a joke, the man has a sense of humor, are you scared of that more than you are of terrorists coming over here to kill us all?

Get over your racism and bigotry. Dont judge a man by the color of his skin or his ancestral background, just because his dad was a muslim doesnt mean that he was.

Happy Ramadan Everyone

"who feels some sort of psychological need to prove himself to his absent Muslim father, and who is now moving in the direction of his father's heritage"

I won't be voting for a Democrat any time soon, but I think that's a very, very long stretch. Unless you have something concrete to back that up, you should withdraw it and apologize. Or at least drop it entirely until you get hard evidence for it. Pursuing it will only backfire. Stop it right now.

The fact is that with the way Democrats are fawning over him, he'll be President in 2016 if he wants and something really adverse doesn't surface.

Confine your attacks to his real deficiencies, such as his inexperience, even if they don't matter to Democrats.

I agree, Jim C. There's really no proof that this guy is going to bend over backward for Islamic fundamentalism just because his dad was a Muslim.

I also agree with questioning his experience. Just because a guy can deliver a good speech, doesn't mean he's fit to run the country. This guy needs more time in the Senate before anyone should even consider him as a candidate for the presidency.

Here's some light to shed on Obama's lies.

His father was a Muzlum and under Sharia law that makes him a Muzlum in the eyes of Islam -- and subject to the death penalty for apostasy in the eyes of Islamists.

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/10/is-barack-obama-lying-about-his-life.html

Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;'Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's BookTuesday August 10, 9:22 pm ET

NEW YORK, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Out2.com's independent contrarian columnist, Andy Martin, will publish a column and hold simultaneous news conferences in New York and London on Wednesday, August 11th to disclose he believes Barack Obama is a political fraud who "lied to the American people." Martin has asked Crown Books to stop sales of Obama's book because of its fraudulent content. Martin says Obama may be a threat to the Jewish community.

NEWS CONFERENCE DETAILS:

New York:Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:00 A.M.Location: Northeast Corner of Fifth Avenue and 65thStreet (Temple Emanu-El)

London:Time/date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:00 P.M.Location: 2 Dryden Mansions, Queens Club Gardens London W14"I feel sad having to expose Barack Obama," says Martin, "but the man is a complete fraud. The truth is going to surprise, and disappoint, and outrage many people who were drawn to him. He has lied to the American people, and he has sought to misrepresent his own heritage.

"Obama's life story is vastly different from the one he portrays. My point: if he will lie about his mother and father, what else is he lying about? Can we expect 'bimbo eruptions?'"

Fiction: Obama stated in his (DNC) Convention speech: 'My father ... grew up herding goats.' The 'goat herder' claim has been repeated endlessly. It is a lie.

Fact: Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama was a prominent and wealthy farmer. (His family owned the ranch, a substantial one, on which the goats, among other animals, including a substantial number of cattle, were also "herded”). His son, Obama's father, was a child of privilege, not privation. He was an outstanding student, not a herdsman.

Fiction: Obama was given an 'African' name.

Fact: Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion. I am a strong supporter of the Muslim community, and I believe Muslims have been scapegoated. Obama has a great opportunity to be forthright. Instead, he has treated his Muslim heritage as a dark secret. His grandfather was named 'Hussein.' That is an Arabic-Muslim, not African, name. Hussein was a devout Muslim and named his son, Barack Senior, 'Baraka.' Baraka is an Arabic word meaning 'blessed.' Baraka comes out of the Koran and Arabic, not Africa.

"Barack Senior was also a devoted Muslim, and also chose a Muslim name for his son, our own Barack Obama, Junior. Again, his name was an Arabic and Koranic.

Obama has spent a lifetime running from his family heritage and religious heritage. Would his father have given his son a Koranic name if the father was not a devout Muslim? Obama's stepfather was also a Muslim. Obama will be the first Muslim-heritage senator; he should be proud of that fact. There is nothing to be ashamed of in any of the three great Abrahamic religions.

"Fiction: Obama Senior was a harmless student 'immigrant' who came to the United States only to study.

Fact: Obama was part of one of the most corrupt and violent organizations in Africa: the Kenyatta regime. Obama's father ran back to Kenya soon after the British left. It is likely Obama's father had Mau Mau sympathies or connections, or he would not have been welcomed into the murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists.

I believe Obama's secret shame at his family history of rape, murder and arson is what actualizes him. Our research is not yet complete. We are seeking to examine British colonial records. Our investigation to date has drawn on information on three continents.

"And what about Obama's beloved Kenyan brothers and sisters? None of his family was invited to Boston to share his prominence. Are his relatives being kept in the closet? Where are they? More secrecy, more prevarication.

"It is time for Barack Obama to stop presenting a fantasy to the American people. We are forgiving and many would still support him. It may well be that his concealment is meant to endanger Israel. His Muslim religion would obviously raise serious questions in many Jewish circles where Obama now enjoys support," Martin states.

"Our investigation is continuing. In he meantime, Crown Books should stop selling Obama's novelization of his life. We have asked Crown to do that. Obama is living a lie."

RESOURCES: Martin's columns at Out2.com (Govt & Politics); E-mail: andy@andymartin.com

"Be that as it may, beware the charismatic leader who also happens to be an empty suit."

Agreed, Rocketman.

Many people claim to be Christians -- that doesn't make it so. Obama apparently is lying about key points in his background. So what is he trying to cover up? There have been Muslim groups who have trained young Muslim men to act like Christian converts, even sending these young men to Christian universities, to aid their ability to infiltrate American society. So a Muslim claiming to be a Christian is not unheard of. The pertinent question is, Is Obama actually a Muslim practicing the well-known art of taqqiyah (lying to infidels) in order to infiltrate the halls of American power? It's a relevant question not because of the "sins of the father" as several liberal posters have claimed, but because of Obama's own lies (anybody remember any other Democrats who lied?) about his past. And it's a question that needs to be taken seriously if Americans are seriously thinking about handing this man a key to the Oval Office. As usual, the liberals will bury their heads in the sand because it's politically incorrect to impugn black Muslim orphans, but the question must be answered.

wow, is this all you got? i thought obama was a sellout for supporting the bankruptcy bill, but looking at this kind of reaction, i like him more all the time. (hillary supported dear leader's iraq catastrophuck, so i got no use for her.)

"As usual, the liberals will bury their heads in the sand because it's politically incorrect to impugn black Muslim orphans, but the question must be answered."

Oh it must? Ok:

"Is Obama actually a Muslim practicing the well-known art of taqqiyah (lying to infidels) in order to infiltrate the halls of American power?"

No.

Anyone else need an easy answer for a mind-boggilingly racist and stupid question?

What an incredibly stupid article. And (with a very small number of exceptions) what an incredibly stupid bunch of comments.

America? You can't handle America. Deal with it.

oops, just saw the rest of the site. i'll leave you to your rubber room [tiptoes out backwards]

I normally don't respond to these sorts of articles, but this one made me take the time to register for a user ID just so I could say the following.

Are you serious? This has got to be one of the stupidest, least logical arguments I have heard in a long time. How in the world do all of you who are responding approvingly to this article take yourselves seriously?

Barak can never stop being a Muslim? Is he Sunni or Shia? Do both of then view him as a crypto-muslim on their side? Did the muslim groups training young muslim men to act like christians and infiltrate our western democracy's to cause harm get trained in the old soviet sleeper agent camps? Can we all say ridiculous conspiracy theory? Has the right sunk so low that it has to draw tenuous conclusions from a person's name? If this what you have to offer it is not a wonder that you all lost so badly in the last elections. Please, please, please continue writing this crap because it only helps alienate the majority of this country.

Notice how all of these posters who are bashing the article about Obama and his lies can't refute ANY one of the article's valid points. Notice how they're all blindly supporting Obama and his lies, but attack the person who exposed his lies.

These are the same people who defended Clinton for 8 years by attacking those who spoke the truth about him.

Obama said all those things at the DNC convention and have since been proven to be LIES!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're all disingenuous, duplicitous, hypocritical LIBERALS!!!

BWWWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

Most of you people here are like extras from the cast of "Deliverance."

So Debbie, Schlussel is in all likelyhood a German name, which if we apply the same logic to you that you applied to Obama, makes you a dangerous National Socialist, and thus not to be trusted.

It's a deeply disengenous little piece, why (for instance) did you not mention that he left the Muslim school he attended in Indonesia to attend a Catholic school for two years? That information was after all in the same article you quoted from.

Put simply, here is a black man, who has a commanding presence and a true opportunity to actually make significant progress towards the presidency of the US. Personally (as a black male), i doubt obama would win...the only way he could win is to get ALL of the BLACK, HISPANIC and ASIAN vote. BLack, Hispanic -- he could probably get; Asian -- doubtful; White -- he would probably get some white females to vote for him..in the end, he would not win; but his running would make a significant point.
Bottom line, Ms. Schlusel, you, like MANY other white people, despite refuting it to the core, have racist feelings and tendencies. For you to harp on the fact that the man has a muslim name or father; and that disqualifies him...frankly i believe you are looking for an excuse why this BLACK man SHOULD NOT be president. I would have MUCH more respect for you, were you to simply come up front and state point blank "Obama should not be president because america SHOULD NOT have a black president"

AAAAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

I just love these pious LIBERALS who are having conniptions and hissy fits over Osama Obama getting exposed for the lying piece of shit that he is.

The LIBERALS are climbing out of the woodwork on this blog employing the same old tired tactics of calling people "racist", "intolerant", "crackers from Deliverance", "islamophobes", etc. But, you know what? Those old tired tricks just don't work anymore. Your Osama Obama is a lying fraud, just as your other hero, Bill Clinton, is a lying fraud. But, you LIBERALS have ALWAYS loved liars becuase they feign to love America, yet do everything they can to destroy it.

The person responsible for that article, Andy Martin, is pro-muzlum, yet even he has had it with Osama Obama' lies.

Another lie from Osama Obama's speech during the DNC Convention, which was not included in that article, was that Obama said his father was a non-practicing Christian. Well, we all know THAT was a lie, also. But, you LIBERALS keep hiding your heads in the sand - the rest of America will not.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

3 points to comment upon. Little Mr Thee_Bruno is akin to an ostrich with its head in the sand. but no matter how much you deceive yourself, the truth is rampant. i won't get into this liberal conservative shit...for all intents and purposes, we can see how eminently intelligent your republican hero (george 'silver spoon' bush) is. probably the only president in american history to absolutely destroy another country, and yet be absolutely clueless as to what to do next.
Back to the matter at hand, which is recognizing ignorance for what it is and dispelling it.
1. Islam has been in Africa for much, much longer than Christianity has been. There have been Islam converts in Africa much longer than CHristian converts. The national language of Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda is Swahili, which is derived from a mixture of Bantu languages and Arabic. Thus, to say that an African with an Arabic sounding name is somehow taking on another culture, is to admit your utter ignorance of history.
2. Jomo Kenyatta, though a dictator, while president of Africa, presided over one of the most economically succesful and peaceful countries on African soil. Despite all other African countries experiencing coups, Kenya never saw one under Kenyatta. So where do the rapists, et al come from? The Mau Mau was a revolutionary movement designed to rid Kenya of her colonial masters. The Mau Mau was composed mostly of Kikuyu and Akamba tribes, who dwelt in the Central Province of Kenya (where most of the British settlers lived); Obama's father and grandfather are Luo..hence the possibility of any of Obama's ancestors being involved in the Mau Mau are very remote. In addition, prior to pointing fingers at the Mau Mau, why not point fingers at the white colonists and all the atrocities they visited on the black Africans. Why not mention the countless amputees in LIberia, Congo, etc who lost limbs because they did not tap enough rubber, or mine enough gold or diamonds. Why not mention the injustices visited upon the black in SOuth Africa...or maybe in your little racist mind, it is perfectly okay for a black man to be defacated upon by a white man?
3. If, as you say, Obama's grandfather was a wealthy rancher in Kenya prior to independence; then i honeslty have to ask "What Kenya are you talking about?". Prior to independence, land ownership in Kenya was not a right, it was a priviledge afforded to very few white people. Thus, the probability of Obama's grandfather owning a vast ranch as you say, is highly unlikely. Second, even if he did own a vast ranch..let me pose a question: If I own Wal-Mart, am i not a store keeper? If I own a ranch, am i not a cattle herder? Thus if Obama's father or grandfather or whatever owned 1000 cows, 600 chickens and 400 goats, could he not be a goat herder?
Your intelligence disappoints me. I should stay away from you, your stupidity and ignorance could be contagious.

Dear menstrual cycle;

You vomited;

"Islam has been in Africa for much, much longer than Christianity has been."

Wrong. Islam was invented in the 7th century a.d. Christianity was already spreading to Africa before mohammadans started their terror raids. (BTW, mohammadans spread islam through raids, forced conversions, and massacres). The apostles and their followers went to all parts of the world spreading the Word immediately after Christ's crucifixtion. ALSO, the Jews (believers in Judaism) lived in Egypt (north Africa) as guests of the pharoahs building cities about a couple thousand years before mohammad was spawned.

Now who's showing his ignorance of history?

"Jomo Kenyatta, though a dictator, while president of Africa, presided over one of the most economically succesful and peaceful countries on African soil."

Although Kenya, under Kenyatta, was prosperous by African standards, and he adopted some pro-western foreign policy initiatives, Kenyatta was intolerant of dissent, outlawing some opposition parties in 1969 and establishing a one-party state in 1974. During the rest of his presidency, Kenya was effectively a one-party state, and Kenyatta made use of detention, appeals to ethnic loyalties, and careful appointment of government jobs to maintain his commanding position in Kenya’s political system. You don't believe he used rape as a weapon, just as muzlums do? Were you there? Because all the reports suggest otherwise.

"Despite all other African countries experiencing coups, Kenya never saw one under Kenyatta."

That's because he turned Kenya into a one-party state, outlawing dissent and political opposition.

" If, as you say, Obama's grandfather was a wealthy rancher in Kenya prior to independence; then i honeslty have to ask "What Kenya are you talking about? ...Prior to independence, land ownership in Kenya was not a right, it was a priviledge afforded to very few white people."

Wrong. You're engaging in what is called "revisionist history". Osama Obama's grandfather DID own a very prosperous ranch.

Osama Obama's father was also involved with the Mau Mau terrorist movement after the British left Kenya. That's why he divorced and abandoned Osama and his mother, fled the U.S., then went back to Kenya to engage in the overthrow of Kenya's fragile independence. That's one of the reasons for Kenyatta's turning the country into a one-party state in order to prevent a coup.

Enough of your revisionism and your attempts at trying to baffle people with your bullshit. You threw in every African country trying to confuse people and you only resulted in confusing yourself. Leave now, and never darken this blog with your presence.

Stepping aside from what is the "substance" of this article and the following comments for a second, are you guys kidding me with the "Banana Hussy Obamba" stuff? Does that actually qualify as humor to some people? "I can't stop laughing!"? Are you serious? How old are you, 9? I don't know any adults who still find funny the type of joke where you change someone's name around (usually a name that is foreign and, thus, unfamiliar) to something like "Banana Hussy Obamba".

Don't get me wrong, I like offensive and politically incorrect humor as much as the next guy. My problem with this isn't that it's offensive or politically incorrect. It's just plain stupid.

The Mau Mau uprising as you call it, (actualy Muingi is the correct name) was not a terrorist movement but a Liberational movement. I know you extreme-right types like to label anyone who disagrees with you as a 'terrorist' - but down here on planet Earth, we don't use such idiotic generalizations.

Even so, it's highly unlikely that Obama senior was part of the Liberation movement (much as I would like to think so) because he was not a Kikuyu.

Congratulations, Ms. Schlussel, on attracting a wide range of racists, bigots, and ostriches to your site.

Just one point: This whole time, I was under the impression that we were 'fighting the war of our lives' against Terra, not Islam. Where did you glean this information, and can you point me to a source?

Best regards.

Here's an idea for all to consider both left and right. Religion should have NOTHING to do with politics. This is a hit piece on him that had misleading and inaccurate information. This is known as a info war. regardless of your wing, left right center or cook you have to start looking at that. If he is a follower of Islam and a liar about his faith so be it. but you should always find at least 3 sources outside of where you first read or hear or watch a story before you even think about it being fact. Infowars are happening now in this country. The media is owned by a select when and they push thier agendas (left and right) by dividing people and stopping rational thought. Politicans have always been liars and self inportant and centered. Granted some go in well intentioned but in the end thier own self interest does take some kind of greater priority.

At any rate I'm not going to say she's wroug but I ask you to question her motives.

Well I see this site is in true propoganda fashion. all my comments have be removed from this site.

Who gives a fuck if he is Muslim but not technically, shit our constitution is built on freedoms and religion is one of them!

"Osama Obama's father was also involved with the Mau Mau terrorist movement after the British left Kenya."

Just so that you know Thee_Bruno, the Mau Mau uprising was well and truly over many years before the British left Kenya

friend680 writes:

"...are you guys kidding me with the 'Banana Hussy Obamba' stuff? Does that actually qualify as humor to some people? 'I can't stop laughing!'? Are you serious?"

You just don't get it, friend680. See, Obama is black. Many of our more Confederate-minded citizens like to compare black people to monkeys. Monkeys eat bananas. I bet calling him "Banana Hussy Obamba" brings down the house at your average GOP or Klan meeting.

mamusa, you are right, except the Coptic church in east Africa is older that Islam.

All I can see that its about blackness,too. We have had no perfect candidate to run for any party. But a black person still has to be a super negro; more qualified and more pure than any white. This sounds like we are still in the fifties. Genetically any half black is as black as any other. Black is a state of race perpetrated by whites to define how blacks must be treated. Islam is the Red Herring in this case.

Considering how well our nation's most recent anti-Hussein effort has been handled, Obama's middle name will most likely work in his favor.

BTW, to whoever said Obama supported the bankruptcy bill: you should try looking at the actual roll call vote.

I'm not for everything posted on this site--but I will call a clown a clown--Obama is a clown. You supporters of this clown were the same ones rooting for Dean and Kerry last round. Hang in there, you still have Hillary as a plan B.

One of the weakest excuses for a column I've read in my 44.8 years. If this is the best the "opposition" to a presumed DNC candidate for the White House can do by way of muckraking, Obama's stint as Commander-in-Chief is all but a slam-dunk.

I hate to engage in back and forth with little babies...but the truth needs to be told.
This is in response to Thee-Bruno:
Christianity was spread into Africa via Missionaries (first came the explorers, Livingston, et al.); they saw the minerals, then the kings of europe decided to conquer africa (the white man's burden they called it), but they needed to pacify the masses -- so they introduced christianity -- by FORCE -- because the natives were hesitant to adopt a foreign ideology, so they had to be given incentive. Islam was spreading in Africa LONG, LONG before christiantiy -- Thee_Bruno -- do some research, go to a library (know what that is??) and read on the history of religion and the history of africa..enlighten yourself and stop sounding like an idiot
Kenya under Kenyatta was not only prosperous by African standards, but by global standards as defined by the World Bank. Go check the world bank standards definitions for countries -- between 1963 - about 1976 -- and you will notice that Kenya was considered a 2nd class country -- not 3rd world, not 1st world..Kenya was on par with countries such as South Korea... i agree there was an element of corruption in Kenyatta's regime (just like no bid contracts to Haliburton -- the VPs former company) .. but rape??? please, where do you get your information from (Rush LImbaugh, Hitler, KKK???).You ask if i was there?? NO, but i know people who were there, were you there??? as for coups...you are indeed a fool... most (i'd say over 90%) of arfican countries were one-party states, yet most of these saw coups...thus Kenya being a one party state and not experiencing coups as a result of that is an illogical conclusion ... take some time and take some college courses on logic and critical thinking
i can not valdate that obama's grandpa owned a huge ranch, all i can say is that at that time, kenya was like south africa, wherein the british imposed apertheid -- africans could not own certain tracts of land, africans were second class citizens (well, i guess Thee_Bruno likes the black people where they belong...behind white people, right??)
as for obama's father being part of mau Mau -- there my friend you have proven without the slightest doubt how ignorant you are. Mau Mau was disbanded after Kenya's independence (actually slightly prior to that). It was an independence movement, so why maintain it after idependence? Thus to say that Obama's father was part of mau mau and as part of mau mau attempted to overthrow Kenyatta, is like saying that George Washingont commanded the confederate troops against Lincoln.
SO my dear little friend .. for your mind is feeble.. i am not a revisionist .. you are the revisionist..and for your info, i have grad degrees in philosophy and economics....
Get a life, get your facts straight, and stop being such a bigot!!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...make it your resolution to learn to get along with others Mr. Buno.

Who cares what Obama's religion is.

There are no religious tests for public office in the US and there should be no political tests either.

But that's exactly what the far right is attempting to impose.

The right wants to make adherence to some vague form of Protestantism a sort of political test for holding office.

If Obama is willing to support and defend the Constitution, that's good enough for me.

Now. What about 'once a Muslim, always a Muslim'? What kind of nonsense is that? People change their minds about religion all the time. It's part of being American.

This making unfounded assumptions based on names looks like fun, can I play too?

Let's see, Debbie's last name is Schlussel, which is German for key. Since her last name is German, she obviously must be a Nazi. Oh, wait. That probably doesn't count as an unfounded assumption, since her ramblings above certainly make her look like she really is a Nazi.

Wait, let me try again...

I've got it, since her first name is Debbie, and she's a blonde, at least in the picture above, she's obviously brainless. No, that doesn't hold up as an unfounded assumption for the same reasons, she really does appear to be brainless.

Give me time, I'll come up with something...

While all you idiot so called conservatives are worrying about muslims, your stolen utopia is being reclaimed by native indigenous people from so called latin america and you can't do anything about it. Within 20 years the majority in this land will be non white. And soon DNA will prove most of you so called whites are really 30% black. For years you have hidden behind the white mask when really most of you are poor southern white octoroon surfs trying to prove that you are better than others by being racists. The future is here.

No matter how much you try to obscure things by blowing smoke, you cannot refute ONE aspect of those arguments that exposed Osama Obama as a liar!

I love all you LIBERALS who came out of the woodwork to defend another LYING LEFTIST politician just as you defended Bill "Convicted of Perjury" Clinton.

All of you LIBERALS love to defend those who would tear down America!!!!

LIBERALS Hate Religion, But They Love Islam!

LIBERALS Hate America!

You LIBERALS have ALWAYS sided with America's enemies and those Democrap politicians who were useful idiots to their cause.

Democraps have always wanted to placate Communists of yesteryear and Muzlums of today.

No matter how much you try to obscure things by blowing smoke, you cannot refute ONE aspect of those arguments that exposed Osama Obama as a liar!

BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

"you cannot refute ONE aspect of those arguments that exposed Osama Obama as a liar!"

errrr yes we can, dimbulb. Obama has not been exposed as a liar.

Wow... I got as far as the very first post and found utter nonsense:

"Barack Obama was originally named "Baraka." It is not an African name. It's an Arabic word meaning "blessed" and comes directly from the Koran."

Barack was originally named Barack -- same spelling as his father's name (He's a jr., his father was Sr.) It IS an African name. The only part you are correct about is that it means "Blessed."

"BTW, Obama lied about his father's religious denomination during the DNC Convention in 2004. He said his father was a non-practicing Christian. Let's see how the LIBERAL media uncovers this lie, as well. Don't hold your breath."

The reason you won't hear the media - "LIBERAL" or otherwise - report this is because it's a lie. Anyone with an internet connection can find the transcript of his speech and see that he made absolutely no mention of his father's religion.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/demconvention/speeches/obama.html

"Barack Obama was originally named 'Baraka.' It is not an African name. It's an Arabic word meaning 'blessed' and comes directly from the Koran.
Thee_Bruno"

Right. 'Baraka' is an Arabic word meaning 'prayer' or 'blessing.' Guess what -- it didn't originate in the Koran. A cognate can be found in many related Semitic-Hamitic languages, used by many religions in the Middle East and North Africa, e.g.:

*Hebrew (i.e., Judaism): 'Baruch' (blessed), 'brucha'/'berakha' (prayer/blessing)
*Coptic (NOTE: Christian!): 'baraka' (blessing)
*Aramaic (NOTE: Christian!): 'baraka'/'birkah' (prayer/blessing), 'bereikh' (praise)
*Hausa (Nigeria and most of Western Africa): 'barka' (prayer/blessing)
*Swahili: 'baraka' (blessing)
*and the list could go on and on.

As for the spelling -- these are all mostly transliterations from languages not normally written in the Roman alphabet, so I wouldn't read anything sinister into the Barack/Baraka distinction.

It's interesting to note that bereikhah is an old Hebrew word for a pool of water -- which certainly is a blessing!

Can't we all just get along??!!

"Can't we all just get along??!!"

No, because thee-bruno is a racist pig, I for one, would not want to get along with him.

IWHAT A PICKLE

Obama is a Dem, and the Muslims consider him one of them. Since Dems pander to Muslims for their votes, and Obama has to please both (or switch parties?), he's really in a bind.

"Obama is a Dem..."

No shit, sherlock.

".. and the Muslims consider him one of them."

no they don't.

" Since Dems pander to Muslims for their votes.."

No they don't.

".. and Obama has to please both (or switch parties?)"

No he doesn't.

".. he's really in a bind."

no he's not.

34 word post with 4 untruths and 1 statement of the totaly obvious. Must be some kind of record even for the average extreme-right nutjob.

About me:

I am an ex-Muslim, having left Islam after spending 11 years in its fold. One thing I am completely against, is extremism in any guise. I consider extremeism for anyone to promote something as fact without having verified the statements. That having been said

1. Hussein is a Muslim name

Hussein is an Arabic name. The name itself is not intrinsically Islamic anymore than the name Thomas is Christian, or Caesar is pagan.

One of our chief warfighters, General John Abizaid, has an Arabic last name which literally means "Father of Zaid." Simply possesing the name indicates nothing of his religious preference.

Similarly, the former Atlanta Falcons runningback Jamal Lewis was not somehow Muslim by default just because his given name of Jamal is Arabic.

2. And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that's not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it.

It is common knowledge in the Muslim community that what makes a person Muslim is that the person declares him or herself as one by uttering "there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger."

3. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back.

In Islamic law, in the event that a Muslim mand and his wife are divorced, the children go with the father - the rationale being that it is the father's responsibility to raise the children and ensure that they grow up to be good Muslims. There is no concept, as exists in Jewish thought regarding the Jewishness of the child being dependent on the faith of the mother, wherein a child is automatically Muslim by virtue of the faith of the father. As for there being no going back - were this true, then Islam's abhorrent laws against apostasy would not exist!

4. As best-selling author Scott Turow wrote in Salon, Obama went to a Muslim school for two years in Indonesia. His mother, Anna, married an Indonesian man (likely another Muslim, as Indonesia is Muslim-dominated and has the largest Islamic population in the world).

Joe stuck candy in his diaper as a child and left without him or his parents having paid for it. Later, his mother married a man who was once arrested for shoplifting. The obvious conclusion is that Joe, now 31, must necessarily be a thief. Please tell me you're kidding.

5. And Obama has a "born-again" affinity for the nation of his Muslim father.

Did I miss something? Nothing presented in the article suggested any "born-again" affinity as you term it, unless that is what is meant by simply having a desire to see where one half of your parentage came from. In that case, I guess I must have a "born-again" affinity for Puerto Rico sense I wanted to see where my biological father came from.

6. is a man who Muslims think is a Muslim

I'd be really curious as to how many Muslims you've discussed this opinion with, or perhaps, is this is an attempt to pawn of your own opinions as belonging to others.

7. who feels some sort of psychological need to prove himself to his absent Muslim father, and who is now moving in the direction of his father's heritage

Um, again, where did this come from? I can't say that there's nothing that suggests this, but there is certainly no proof of this in the article other than you simply saying it is so.

Now lest anyone get the purpose of my statements confused, this is not a defense of Barack Obama, and it definitely isn't defense of Islam - but just an objective look at what was stated.

Remember, extremists usually view objective statements that do not buy into their own views as being extremists statements for the other side.

God bless America, her people, her friends, and keep her safe.

I'M WELL AWARE THAT HUSSEIN IS AN ARABIC WORD, BUT AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT IS A MUSLIM NAME. YOU WILL BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND TO MANY CHRISTIAN ARABS WITH THAT NAME. AND FYI, OBAMA IS NOT AN ARAB, NOR WAS HIS FATHER. HIS FATHER CHOSE THE NAME, NOT BECAUSE IT IS AN ARABIC WORD, BUT BECAUSE HE IS A MUSLIM. AS YOU WELL KNOW, NOT MANY NON-MUSLIMS WANT TO NAME THEIR KIDS AFTER ALI'S SON. AS FOR THE REST, I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR FALSE PREMISES AND FAILED LOGIC, AND SIMPLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO IT ALL. BUT YOU ARE WRONG.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Thank you for your attention and response to my post. Please, there is no need to "shout." I can "hear" you just fine.

1. I'M WELL AWARE THAT HUSSEIN IS AN ARABIC WORD, BUT AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT IS A MUSLIM NAME. YOU WILL BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND TO MANY CHRISTIAN ARABS WITH THAT NAME. AND FYI, OBAMA IS NOT AN ARAB, NOR WAS HIS FATHER. HIS FATHER CHOSE THE NAME, NOT BECAUSE IT IS AN ARABIC WORD, BUT BECAUSE HE IS A MUSLIM.

Your logic is still very much flawed. There are many people whom, according to the declarations of faith that they have uttered, are Muslims but have the name 'Isa, which is the Arabic form of the name Jesus. By your logic, simply having the name should make them Christian; or is it your contention that the "having a name automatically makes you a member of a particular faith" game is a only works if the outcome makes a Muslim?

Again, even if his father was Muslim, that does NOT, in regards to Islamic law, or just plain common sense automatically make him one.

2. YOU WILL BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND TO MANY CHRISTIAN ARABS WITH THAT NAME.

And your point is? I personally have a friend who is white, his wife black, and of course their children are biracial. He and his family, like myself, were Muslims. They named their four daughters with Arabic names, one of them being Fatimah, which is a popular name among Muslims because it was the name of one of the Prophet Muhammad's daughters.

After leaving Islam for Christianity they did not rename themselves or their daughters.

Now these girls are Christians, have Arabic and by your call Islamic names. Their parents named them such because they WERE Muslims at the time of the births of their daughters.

How does any of that necessitate that they, the girls or their parents, MUST necessarily be Muslims now?

2. AS FOR THE REST, I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR FALSE PREMISES AND FAILED LOGIC, AND SIMPLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO IT ALL. BUT YOU ARE WRONG.

I don't claim to have all the answers and am certainly aware of my own propensity to be mistaken. Alas, it is a shortcoming I accept due to acknowledgement of the frailty of human nature as all other than God fall far short of God's perfection.

That being said, in regards to what I mentioned above, I guess I MUST be wrong, because you said I am.

I suppose you are the proof and no corroborating evidence need be provided.

Take care and God bless.

Oh and for the record, I know more non-Muslims named Fatimah than I do Muslims!

Oops, I meant to say that I know more Muslims who do not know that they are Muslims because they have that name, than I do Muslims who know they are Muslims because they have that name.

من اين تعلمت اللغة العربية؟

Please forgive the lack of shaddah and other diacritical marks, the online keyboard at http://www.al-islam.com/key.htm does not accomodate them all.

But I trust that from context you know what I'm asking. Just curious.

Hah! Debbie.... let me ask you something.. If you are able to put up an obviously misleading picture of yourself up on your website (let's face it.. it stinks of photoshop or whatever the hell touch-ups you did to it) then why can't Barack Obama polish up his image? :) Now... you'll probably accuse me of fighting dirty and tell me what I just stated is irrelevant to the subject... well... so is your warped reasoning and wishy washy links and connections that your bigoted mind has come up with. broad, sweeping statements, and being uncultured doesn't win the day my dear.

Let's say he is Muslim...obviously he has some African blood in him. So what?! What are you afraid of! He's an American...through and through! Not to mention he IS a practicing Christian.

Get rid of your irrational fears.

Independents for Obama

The first permanent European colony in the modern U.S. was founded by people seeking freedom from religious persecution. It is amazing to see how far we have come nearly 400 years since then. There seem to be many people [trolls?] posting here that are so cavalier about using strong and hateful language with regard to Islam. Leading politicians (including the president) from both major parties have insisted that we are not in a war against Muslim people. I think some of the readers here missed that message. Isn't freedom of religion one of the bedrock values that once made America "morally superior" and the envy of other nations? Why should a candidate's religion matter in a free country? Did the terrorists win? The signs point to yes because here there are scores of comments here by people who are terrified that a guy with a funny name could be president. Maybe I was raised with some screwy branch of Christianity, but I was taught to love all of God's children--regardless of their race, religion, or political affiliation.

Hi, any voter or potential voter should be concerned if ANY politician lies, paticuarly about himself.

For the information of those ignoramous revisionists who claim that islam spread in Africa before Christianity...in his early days mohammad was given refuge in Ethopia by a CHRISTIAN king. How did that happen if Christianity was not in Africa? btw Ethiopia was and is an African (Christian) country. Christianity was ALSO spread throughout the Middle East by the time mohammad was born or are you going to deny that too? The Coptic church was THE national church of Africa till the 7th century when the muslims began to invade. Islam was spread by force in Africa and Europe,Christianity was not.
Now if you are going to deny what I have posted please give us a reference instead of endlessly repeating your opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/index_section8.shtml
http://www.allaboutreligion.org/history-of-christianity-in-africa-faq.htm

I dont? understand why you use the logic of assumption for example� So Debbie, Schlussel is in all likelihood a German name, which if we apply the same logic� Schlussel is a polish Jewish name not a German name. Your logic has imbedded an ignorant assumption based on an error. Seems to me that this type of rationalization is nebulous. I take personal offence of this as I am Jewish. If Obama is and identifies himself as Christian then he is Christian period. Would you like people calling you a Zionist even though you are not and you�re merely Jewish? Like �Debbie is a Zionist even thought she does not know it?� Debbie this is America. Anyone who wants to pursue their dreams is going to. This country does not belong to a particular ethnic group including Polish Jews, It belongs to all of us and we all participate in it. Some will fail some will lose based on there ideas and their success but not based on their religion! God knows I would not like the tables turned and people like you could be personally attacking someone because they are Jewish!

In other words grow up you�re a 50+ year old women, common don�t embarrass your family.

I dont? understand why you use the logic of assumption for example� So Debbie, Schlussel is in all likelihood a German name, which if we apply the same logic� Schlussel is a polish Jewish name not a German name. Your logic has imbedded an ignorant assumption based on an error. Seems to me that this type of rationalization is nebulous. I take personal offence of this as I am Jewish. If Obama is and identifies himself as Christian then he is Christian period. Would you like people calling you a Zionist even though you are not and you�re merely Jewish? Like �Debbie is a Zionist even thought she does not know it?� Debbie this is America. Anyone who wants to pursue their dreams is going to. This country does not belong to a particular ethnic group including Polish Jews, It belongs to all of us and we all participate in it. Some will fail some will lose based on there ideas and their success but not based on their religion! God knows I would not like the tables turned and people like you could be personally attacking someone because they are Jewish!

In other words grow up you�re a 50+ year old women, common don�t embarrass your family.

Thanks for the great article. I would strongly urge you and your readers to remember that in the Islamic faith that it is perfectly acceptalbe to lie to infidels. As for Obama's "Christian" faith, the United Church of Christ is a very liberal organization and is the church home of a Who's Who of hard line leftys with Howard Dean at the top of the pile. Jesus said in Luke 6:43-44 "For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes."
At the very least with Obama's stances on abortion, "gay marriage", anti-Israeli stance, as well as other issues, his fruits make him anything but a true Christian. Myself, being a Christian pastor, I am offended by his actions and his claim to be a Christian. The world has way too many part time Christians as it is, but wolves in sheeps clothing must not be tolerated. Whether or not Obama is a Muslim, I can't say, but I can say that his fruits and his ambitions are anything but Christ-like or in the interest of the betterment of our society or culture. Ideals and beliefs like these have been systematically destroying our country and our society for the past fifty years and if there is any hope to save our way of life, people like this must be exposed and stopped.
Please keep Shining and Buy No Lie

Debbie loves to toss out the word "radical" as an adjective to describe people she disagrees with. Let's call Debbie a radical illogician.

I wrote the following email to her, but thought I'd share it with you folks. (By the way, Purple Cow rocks!)

Dearest Debbie,
Are you so desperate for attention that you'll just say anything, no matter how dangerous or hurtful or illogical? Do you feel so badly about yourself that you have to mock other religions and cultures? What's funny to me is that you make fun of the names Jos� and Hussein -- and your name's Debbie. Debbie? As in "Debbie Does Dallas"? Are you for real? You make me as embarrassed of being white as Osama Bin Laden makes my friend Mahia embarrassed of being Muslim. Fortunately, neither you nor Bin Ladin reflect the rich and beautiful cultures you come from. You two both come from one culture -- the culture of hate.
I really don't understand people like you. What's the point of your divisive commentary? Why are you so wedded to hate. Your type was much more interesting when you still wore hoods and burned crosses. Now you dress well. You wear makeup. You speak well. But you're still just as ugly and ignorant as ever. Please put your hood back on. It's awfully embarrassing for you to go out so exposed.
I pray you find compassion. When you do, I'll find some in my heart for you. Until then, your chatter is just more noise amid the cacaphony.
Best to you and your recovery...

Baraka is a Swahili word meaning "blessing" and is derived from Arabic. Much of Swahili is derived from Arabic, but Swahili is one of the two national languages of Kenya. Regardless of the origin of the man's name, it's the name of his father. Period. Did you pick your name?

And Muslims are free to pretend that Senator Obama is a Muslim, but if he doesn't think he is, I'd say he's right. Or, is what one is CALLED by others supposed to alter what one actually is? If someone calls me a kangaroo, I don't magically become a kangaroo.

Oh, and for those who say Senator Obama should embrace his mother's religion, Ann Dunham is listed as an atheist in several biographical documents. Senator Obama merely says she is spiritual, but has a skepticism of organized religion.

So, should the Senator embrace atheism? If religion is so bloody important to his politics, wouldn't that be a death knell in this country?

Has our population been "dumbed down" enough to believe that "no judgment" is "good judgment?" If that's the case, what the heck is "poor judgment?" Using facts set before you to come to logical conclusions?

I find it extremely disturbing how susceptible people are to propaganda. If the media hyped it long enough, they could easily convince many that it is prejudiced and hateful to hold it against any candidate if he/she has a history of affiliation with white supremacy groups, pedophile organizations, etc.

It reminds me of a family member of mine who, after being warned repeatedly of the violent and cruel history of a certain male, believed everyone was being unfair and judgmental. Ignoring all warnings, she married the man. She was actually surprised when he cursed, abused, financially raped, and cheated on her.

There are times when one definitely must err on the side of caution - electing a president is definitely one of them.

I challenge any and everyone who has not done so to pick up unbiased reference books, to read up on the current nations run by Muslim governments, and to GET A CLUE!

Just out of curiosity, what makes Islam a "worse" religion than Christianity/Judaism? Everyone (including Ms. Schlussel) seems to assume that Islam is in itself a bad thing, but I fail to see any evidence of this. Until someone shows me definitive proof that (a) Obama is truly Muslim and (b) Islam is inferior to Christianity, I will have a problem with this article.

To rostra,

What makes Islam "worse" than Christianity/Judaism? That is not a pertinent question. This article and the ensuing discussions are in the context of current political affairs. The correct question would be: What makes Islamic connections a problem in American politics.

Politically speaking, there is CURRENTLY a wealth of difference between the politics of Muslim vs. non-Muslim nations. Do you have no access to reference materials? Just READ! Read non-partisan, regular ENCYCLOPEDIAS; find articles in mags such as National Geographic (pre-dating the war are best), etc.

Ask yourself a few questions. What freedoms do you expect/enjoy that you are unwilling to give up? The right to be non-religious? The right to speak your mind on ALL accounts? Make a list, then check and compare every Muslim nation's laws/rights (note: they are indeed literally "Muslim governments", but America/United Kingdom/Israel, etc. are NOT literally religious governments) and answer for yourself why many freedom-loving people have a problem with the Muslim ideology seeping into our political system.

BACK AWAY FROM THE T.V.! READ, THINK, AND PROCESS FOR YOURSELF

Why dont we judge people on their merit, what they stand for.. lets not reduce multifaceted individuals to a singular identity which is religion

I have a couple of questions in response. The first is, what makes you think that Obama being elected is going to allow "Muslim ideology to seep into our political system?" Secondly, one of the rights you mentioned was the freedom to choose my religion. Why should my president not have the same right?

Anyone that calls him "Osama Obama" or "Banana" or any of the other stupid shit people are saying on here don't deserve to be on the internet. It's a wonder people like you manage to provide for yourselves. Are you really so caught up in your partisan world that you sit around stupid blogs like this circle-jerking with other dipshits? This is the same kind of mentality we've had to put up with from extreme liberal teenagers who think that 'omg bush=hitler'. Maybe you all should rethink things. When you're ready to act like an adult (not to mention a responsible American citizen), the rest of us will be waiting.

In his autobiography Mr. Obama admitted that his Indonesian stepfather (Sutoro) was a non-practising Muslim. However, 'non-practising' Muslim only means that one does not pray five times a day. It does not at all mean that one is opposed to Islamic terrorism and/or other radical Islamic teaching.

It is quite easy to test whether or not Mr. Obama is a closet Muslim: Just observe whether or not Mr. Obama eats PORK. Practically ALL non-practising Muslims of Indonesia do not eat pork, just like their devout Muslim brothers. This fact can be generalized to all Muslims in the world, and can be very easily tested, e.g., during Democrat Party convention meetings.

If Mr. Obama eats pork, than it is true what he said, that he is not a Muslim. However, if Mr. Obama avoids eating pork, then he is a true Muslim in his heart. Thus, if Mr. Obama does not eat pork, he reveals himself as a dangerous threat to all Americans; he is practising the notorious Koran tactics 'al-Taqiyya'.

to deepskirt,

your analysis of whether christianity is better than islam is DEEPLY flawed. If you really read history, you would realise that Islam is now what Chritianity was for most of western civilization since its adoption as the state regime of Constantine. In early america politics was deeply tied with religion. Thing such as fornication, alcoholism, and Christamas were against the law and punishable by law. Let's not forget the incident of the hangings of the "Salem witches" who were not really witches but were probably halucinating thanks to a bacteria in the year's crops. Let's remember the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisitions that resulted in the death of an untold multitude for being "heretics." Deaths due to the inquisitions are estimated to be from "600000 to as high as 9000000" and "the total number of deaths due to the crusades had been estimated at around nine million." Let us also not forget the worst genocide of all history, that which the so-called Christian nations inflicted on the native americans and african slaves. All of this was supported by the Christian church in the name of "saving the heathens." One could even be killed by law for trying to translate the Bible into the vernacular in certain European countries of the time. These are just a few of the killings that happened in the name of Christianity as supported by the "Christian" nations of the time.

The real issue is not muslim vs other religions. Rather, it is religious government vs atheistic or agnostic government. The form of government that we feel is so "just" has nothing to do with religion. It is based on the French Revolution and french concepts of enlightenment. In the French Revolution, religion was actually turned upon and the Catholic Chruch was forced outside of government. One work says on the French Revolution:

"Philosophés, rejecting the church and embracing Deism, Agnosticism or Atheism, had a good deal of historical rationale for their attacks on the church. And many who occupied high positions within the Revolution thought as they did. "

So the ideal government as Americans see it is really scientific rather than religious. The French succeeded in throwing religion of it's back. Eventually I think this same concept will be used to throw religion out of the bed and crush its political influence all-together. Modern western politics is particularly
areligious.

So to condemn muslim as a bad religion is wrong and faulty. History already attests to the fact that the christian clergy in power is, to date, worse than the muslim clergy in power. The real condemnation is in "religion" affecting politics. All of the presidents of the US have been religious only in name. The government of the US and other nations is based firmly on secularism.

my mother was a Jew. that makes me a Jew.

i accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah. that makes me a CHristian.

a man is who he believes he is, bloodline aside.

if Obama says he's a Christian, it's a slippery slope to say otherwise.

Sorry state of affairs, first we have to worry about the Dems electing DYKE Hillary, now we have to worry about a rag head in the US Senate. Man those bastards will do anything for power. Maybe Bill Clinton will become a rag head. He already likes head......
cchotard

In the interest of fairness and balance, I'd like to say: who cares what his religion is? He can worship whatever or whoever he wants to as long as he can get the job done! Apparently, to some petty and hateful people, the works and policies of a candidate are not nearly as important as having a facade of faith, white skin, and a feigned folksiness.

Disagreeing with someones political views is one thing, but to hate them is something different. Many people on this site have stated that they are christian and that they hate Obama. Being born into a christian family and raised as such, I dont see how that is christian like at all. It shouldnt matter what religious back ground they come from, what the color of ones skin is, or what the origin of thier name is. We should be treating each other with respect. There are many political things that I disagree with but I dont hate the person for it. I just disagree with thier politics. Having an arabic name doesnt make you arabic, nor does it make you a muslim. And if it did then so what? My parents gave me an arabic name because they liked the name. My family heritage is primarily from England. Does this mean that I cant be christian because of my name? And if it did would it make me a different person? It makes me really sad to see people hating each other for where they come from. If you believe that Obama is a wrong canidate to lead our country then say why he is and being muslim has nothing at all to do with if he is going to make our country better and stronger. Im a republican and seeing this attitude towards a fellow American distrubs me.

So, you will believe this muslim that he is a non-practicing muslim. Then what will you do if you vote him in and he gets to the white house and then says, "I fooled you all, I am a muslim. I was schooled in wahibism, I hate all Americans and I now have control of the white house. I will now see it lay in crumbles. Islam will control the world. Just like no one checked the background of the congressional candidate who refused to take the oath of congress unless he put his hand on the koran instead of the Bible. Now we have a islam in congress.
Something ironic? Took my son to the airport to leave for boot camp... our country was attacked by radical islam... you wouldn't believe how many muslims work at Louisville International Airport. They are so smart... they are putting themselves into the places where they will be able to attack us easily. Thanks to the ACLU, we have to continue to be civil to the people who attack us. We, the citizens of the US have to keep losing our rights and keep our mouths shut about it. Well, I'm tired of keeping my mouth shut. If you're not a citizen, then if you don't like the way things are done here, then go home. IF my American flag offends you... then go home. If you don't want to speak the official language ENGLISH, then GO HOME!!! If you don't want to accept that this country was founded on CHRISTIAN principles then GO HOME!!!! Marriage is between a man and a woman... just because you make it across the border, illegally, to give birth in this country, your baby should not be a US citizen and it give you a right to stay here and get benefits afforded by my hard earned tax dollars... don't want to be here by legal due process... then GO HOME!!! I'm sick of losing my rights all in the name of being POLITICAL CORRECTNESS... if you don't like my attitude, then GO HOME! If this is your home and your a liberal and don't like it... then that's your right for being a citizen of the United States. However, you might be too blind to see it now, but all of those people who pretend to be your friend and are shaking your hand right now to get you to help fight to get them the rights they don't deserve for not being a citizen here, well do you remember your history and what happened between the U.S. and Japan in WWII???? When Japan was pretending to have talks with the US and were shaking our hand with the right while stabbing us in the back with the left? When they attacked us at Pearl Harbor???? History does repeat itself... they will not protect you or remember you when it comes time for them to take over for what they want.

"Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep; it starts when you're always afraid; you step out of line the man comes and takes you away."

'Nuff said.

JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BLIND, DEAF, AND DUMB, DOESN'T MEAN YOU'LL BE SAVED FROM THOSE THAT WOULD HARM AMERICA.

OH, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE PARANOID, DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT OUT TO GET YOU.
'NUFF SAID.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

I'm still recovering from NCN saying that all the information about Barack Hussien Obama being muslin educated in a Madrassa School is false with no basis in truth. I guess we are just to believe that 180 degrees is telling us the truth and go back to sleep. So lets again think about NCN and its statement knowing that NCN and 180 have actually no understanding of the Islamic faith and have tried to always be PC at every turn. When has NCN ever not put their particular spin on the news for their political bent. I would say that Hussien Obama is ignoring this whole controversy allowing others to say its false-BTW why dosn't he state this clearly. I have also heard that when a person who is non-muslim converts to Islam they immediately get a new islamic name. There are hundreds of examples from a very famous boxer to others. I think Obama needs to maybe change his name to David or Thomas. Seriously though, when he continues to hide his name and his past and his Father from the public by lying ...especially when he wants to be the President of the US( Highest Office in the USA)- which is not exactly a low profile job there's something not quite right. Out and Out Deception is a quality of the muslims when dealing with the infidels ( US Ameicans ). He could be practicing al-Taqiya-outright denying one's faith in order to protect themselves primarily while living with infidels (americans). This is in the Quran-Surah 16;106. This is an accepted position. I would go on to say that even if he stated that muslims and their phophet are false I would like to see something of an action that speaks louder than words.. and not just words that state a position. Lastly, we need some very courageous journelists to do a very good background examination of Hussien Obama before we get any closer to the 08 election.

Both of my parents were devout Jews but I renounced Judaism and am a devout Episcopalian. Thus, I really don't understand why Barrack's father, born in an Arabic speaking part of the world, could not have been born a Muslim while Barrack, who was born in the United States to a black man from Kenya and a Christian White Woman from Kansas, attended Catholic Schools for several years while young, and lived a good portion of his lifew with his maternal grandparents, could not be a completely and utterly devout Christian. Heck, the story of my own conversion is much starker and more dramatic, especially given my parent's reaction.

In any case, I really don't understand how Obama's faith is material or relevant to anything substantive.

But the subtle racism that pervades Ms. Schlussel's blog entry is both amazing and frightening to me. As if being a Muslim (which Obama obviously is not) is a bad thing, something that we should be automatically be mistrustful of. What small-mindedness! People said the same kinds of ridiculous things about JFK before he was elected, only it was because he was Catholic and would presumably be taking orders from the Vatican.

A wise man once said in a sermon on a mountaintop in the middle east that we should judge not, that we be not judged.

I've never heard of Debbie Schlussel but, given that a devoutly Christian man (who I voted for, by the way) has lead us into the biggest blunder in U.S. foreign policy history, it appears to me that no faith has a monopoly on wisdom --- or foolishness.

May God bless all of you.

I AM AN INDONESIAN MAN

I ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT SCHOOL HE ENTERED IN INDONESIA.
IT'S REALLY A PUBLIC SCHOOL, NOT A MUSLIM'S SCHOOL.
HOWEVER,,,
WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIS ISLAM BACKGROUND? IF HE CAN BRING PEACE IN THE WORLD ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA?
THE ONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO VOTE FOR HIM JUST BECAUSE HE HAS THE BACKGROUND OF ISLAM,, IS COMPLETELY A FOOL AND SELFISH...
HE/SHE ONLY THINK ABOUT RACISM NOT ABOUT PEACE AND NOT A LITTLE ABOUT THE COUNTRY....

To Mr. Chipta Perdana, the Indonesian Man ....

I agree with you, it is not a madrassa, but it is still a public school that teaches Islamic religion and probably al Qur'an (although Arabic is unlikely). Today, most Indonesian schools are teaching anti-American attitude and celebrating Osama bin Laden, our arch-enemy, as a hero.

You asked, what's wrong with Obama's Muslim background? The answer is, YES, it is very wrong to have a Muslim background and want to run for president. Why? Because we are at WAR with Muslim extremists and Islamofascists. With his Muslim background, which covers all parts of his family (father as well as stepfather), Mr. Obama is most likely to be an undercover enemy for us, Americans. As such, he will NOT bring PEACE as you thought, but instead, a WORLD WAR, because even his camouflage Christian church, i.e., the Trinity United Church of Christ, is well known as anti-Israel, anti-Jew and pro-Arab. How can he bring peace with all the background?

I am pretty sure, Mr. Obama will never become US President; but Vice President may be possible, i.e., if Hillary Clinton is forced by the Democratic Party to accept Obama against her personal will. Even as Vice president Obama might still be able to reverse our Middle East policy and let Iran become regional nuclear power that soon will wipe out Israel from the map. HOW CAN THAT BE CALLED PEACE???

Fortunately you are Indonesian, not American. Otherwise, it is YOU YOURSELF who is A FOOL AND SELFISH, for voting for Obama. However, for your being an Indonesian, I completely understand your anti-American attitude, also your al Taqiyya tactic, since I suppose you donot eat pork and donot drink beer, which I suspect to be also the case with Senator Obama.

Reply to 'Dance with Possum' dated 1/28/2007.

Dear Possum:
Converting from Judaism to Christianity is quite natural, because that is just what Jesus Christ�s teaching is all about. Thus, Christianity can be considered as a perfection of Judaism, at least from the standpoint of Christians, although Jesus is still rejected by Judaism until today. In contrast, Islam is a direct antipode of both Judaism and Christianity. To come to this conclusion, you have to study Islam a little bit further in order to free yourself from prejudice. Although Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it rejects Him of being son of God and that Jesus died on the cross. In fact, Islam considers Jews as pigs and Christians apes, as recited in a number of verses in the Qur'an, specifically Suras 5:60-65, 2:65 and 7:166.

Obama�s faith is totally immaterial. It is his lying and concealing his Islamic faith that really matter. We do not reject Keith Ellison for being a first Muslim congressman, since he did not try to conceal his faith, so other congress members exactly know where he stands.

Islam as religion is acceptable, but Islam as ideology is to be rejected, even if it does not directly support terrorists and Islamofascists. This is because Islam not only is a religion but also a law system and a state ideology, both being in direct opposite to our democracy. As such, Islam does not fit into our law system, since - just like Communism - it seeks to destroy our democratic state and replace it by their theocratic state.

You are wrong Mr. Possum � Our state is NOT based on Christianity, but on REASON, the latter being the fundament of modern democracy. The same thing with European states. To come to this conclusion you should delve a little bit into the history. Medieval Europe was based on the Bible scripture, i.e., by definition a Christian state. This has been radically transformed by the Enlightenment based on reason beginning with the 17th century. While Europe had to overcome a lot of difficulties in their transformation to a democratic state (e.g., the French revolution 1789), our founding fathers were first in establishing a fully functioning state based reason (American revolution 1776) To be noted is here the fact that at least two of our founding fathers, i.e., Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, were strong supporters of the French revolution.

In comparison, the Islamic concept of state is at least 1400 years old and has not changed even a little bit until today. So, according to you, Mr. Possum, we should give this 1400-year old �wisdom� a chance to govern us all? The truth is, Islam as a pre-medieval ideology is against REASON (i.e., IRRATIONAL) and fundamentally ANTI DEMOCRATIC. So, according to you, Mr. Possum, this irrational �wisdom� should control our lives?

It is not any faith having a monopoly of wisdom, as you said, but wisdom can be only achieved by reason. History has shown that faith only foments hate and produces war, not wisdom. Reason does not abolish faith, but puts faith in its proper position, i.e., as a personal matter. As such, our reason does not allow any faith to be enforced to any person, as the Islamic religion has been trying 1400 years long. This is the basis for freedom of religion, and also the basis for rejecting Islam as an ideology, philosophy, and/or state law. We can only accept Islam as a religion that is 100% private matter.

May God bless you all.

Posts on this site making fun of his name and calling him a "banana" are excellent, what amazes me is how does a black man have the temerity to stand for election for president when there are obviously more qaulified people on this site, why dont we just hang him from the nearest tree

the reason the bigots on this site are upset about his name is that they did not get to name him, they are use to being the slave owning class and giving them jewish or christian names. How dare a black man decide a religion or name for himself. I am so appalled that jewish people with our history are really expressing such biggoted views.

Hey, y'all...

Lots of preconceived notions flying around in this discussion.

I'm about as Republican as they come, and I too had my reservations about Obama.

So I actually (gasp!) decided to read his book, The Audacity of Hope, and see what Obama had to say for himself.

Sure, he's to the left of most of the commenters here... but if he represents a real danger to America, he's done a DAMNED fine job of covering it up.

We need to somehow differentiate between a New Deal Democrat and a spawn-of-Satan Islamic antichrist.

Read the man in his own words and don't let Rush (God love him) tell you what to think.

He's got my vote, just to piss off people like you.

Dear Debbie,

I am a white-male american, and I happened to come across your website. I see you had a lot to say, and seem to have gotten people extremely frustrated. There is only one problem though Debbie, are you aware that your facts are not facts? It is obvious you are only doing this to get muslims to act a certain way, so you have every reason to justify every bad thing you ever said about them. I (personally) am not muslim, but know a little bit about the religion, and it is surely not what you and the media make it out to be.

Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace. So your bias accusations are morally incorrect. In politics, they use the terms: "Radical Islam" or "Islamic Fascism". They also label all people who object the government policy overseas (and even in America), "Terrorists". In reality, Americans all over the U.S. are blinded by what the media says. Americans who watch the news, believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they dont! They only know what the media tells them, and believe what the media wants them to believe! Every American knows there is information hidden from them, and it is wrong how the media brainwashes them to believe they are bringing out the truth.

America uses the term terrorist only to keep emotions and fears of Americans alive. The government wants all americans to support the war they are planning in the middle east, and need something that will make all Americans emotionally support them. Do you even know what a terrorist is Debbie? The media claims a terrorist is anyone who fights to support their country (against America), anyone who opposes america, anyone who opposes domination of the world (from America), or an act of violence which is claimed to be justified by radical religion. Americans around the U.S. are being brainwashed, and its a shame that some of the freeist, finest people in the world can be easily manipulated. Ariel Sharon seemed to have a definition of terrorism, "One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation". Is Sharon calling he, and his supporters terrorists? Because if I am not mistaken, it is Israel who specializes in killing innocent civilians, even children. There is horrific evidence of Israel doing such things, and its sad that America (the land of the free, and home of the brave)supported terrorism! Sharon also believes, "If it is strictly military combat, it is not terrorism". So once again, is he calling himself a terrorist? Becuase if he is trying to critiize Hezbollah, he has no argument, since Hezbollah only has confrontations with the greedy Israely Army. So once again, he and everyone who agrees with him, is proven wrong! Check out these videos please, http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8k170Z-DNU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9XtKDuSOQ

Now America's story is they are only trying to bring democracy to the world, and will do it one country at a time. They do not tell you what they are actually doing overseas, and what is driving the muslims crazy enough to act a certain way. If I kill your brother, would you now wish death upon me? America does not show the killing of the brother, they only show the reaction. When they show the reaction, they use it in such a way to show that muslims are Radical and will kill for no reason. Yes, it obviously is meant to scare Americans and keep supporting the policy. Islam only opposes those who support the devil or evil. If muslims are acting a certain way, it is not because they interpret their books that killing people is ok. The Quaran does not wish death to America, and surely only opposes the forces of evil. Since Islam is a peaceful religion, think about how much evil it will take to get them to act this way. America must be hiding a lot, but its a common thing for people overseas to say America is raping muslim women and torturing muslims. Once again, with that happening, self defense is terrorism, right?

Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself. Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.

Debbie last thing I would like to say is your whole page on muslims around the U.S. and around the world is invalid. Once again, you are only doing this to frustrate muslims enough to say something you want them to say, or act a certain way because they feel they are hated. It is wrong what you are doing, and if you are part of any religion, lying is a bad thing, and you will never enter the gates of heaven for as long as you stay the way you are. Keep the hatred in your heart, since the lord knows what is right! Let them deal with the devilish, false hatred you have in your heart. You should feel proud you either support world domination, or are completely brainwashed... Congradulations Debbie, and to all Americans who read this, you are all very special people, and I am not Anti-American! It is an amazing thing to live in a free country, but its scary when the freedom is being taken away little by little. Watch this video fellow americans, for it may actually teach you something...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-jbJ6PCnfgs

Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!

Dear Debbie,

I am a white-male american, and I happened to come across your website. I see you had a lot to say, and seem to have gotten people extremely frustrated. There is only one problem though Debbie, are you aware that your facts are not facts? It is obvious you are only doing this to get muslims to act a certain way, so you have every reason to justify every bad thing you ever said about them. I (personally) am not muslim, but know a little bit about the religion, and it is surely not what you and the media make it out to be.

Islam is a peaceful religion. The term Islam even means peace. So your bias accusations are morally incorrect. In politics, they use the terms: "Radical Islam" or "Islamic Fascism". They also label all people who object the government policy overseas (and even in America), "Terrorists". In reality, Americans all over the U.S. are blinded by what the media says. Americans who watch the news, believe they understand everything that is going on, when in reality, they dont! They only know what the media tells them, and believe what the media wants them to believe! Every American knows there is information hidden from them, and it is wrong how the media brainwashes them to believe they are bringing out the truth.

America uses the term terrorist only to keep emotions and fears of Americans alive. The government wants all americans to support the war they are planning in the middle east, and need something that will make all Americans emotionally support them. Do you even know what a terrorist is Debbie? The media claims a terrorist is anyone who fights to support their country (against America), anyone who opposes america, anyone who opposes domination of the world (from America), or an act of violence which is claimed to be justified by radical religion. Americans around the U.S. are being brainwashed, and its a shame that some of the freeist, finest people in the world can be easily manipulated. Ariel Sharon seemed to have a definition of terrorism, "One who leads an armed group that kills civilians as a means of political intimidation". Is Sharon calling he, and his supporters terrorists? Because if I am not mistaken, it is Israel who specializes in killing innocent civilians, even children. There is horrific evidence of Israel doing such things, and its sad that America (the land of the free, and home of the brave)supported terrorism! Sharon also believes, "If it is strictly military combat, it is not terrorism". So once again, is he calling himself a terrorist? Becuase if he is trying to critiize Hezbollah, he has no argument, since Hezbollah only has confrontations with the greedy Israely Army. So once again, he and everyone who agrees with him, is proven wrong! Check out these videos please, http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8k170Z-DNU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9XtKDuSOQ

Now America's story is they are only trying to bring democracy to the world, and will do it one country at a time. They do not tell you what they are actually doing overseas, and what is driving the muslims crazy enough to act a certain way. If I kill your brother, would you now wish death upon me? America does not show the killing of the brother, they only show the reaction. When they show the reaction, they use it in such a way to show that muslims are Radical and will kill for no reason. Yes, it obviously is meant to scare Americans and keep supporting the policy. Islam only opposes those who support the devil or evil. If muslims are acting a certain way, it is not because they interpret their books that killing people is ok. The Quaran does not wish death to America, and surely only opposes the forces of evil. Since Islam is a peaceful religion, think about how much evil it will take to get them to act this way. America must be hiding a lot, but its a common thing for people overseas to say America is raping muslim women and torturing muslims. Once again, with that happening, self defense is terrorism, right?

Since the law of physics does not agree with how the towers fell, and lack of footage of the terrorist attacks on the pentagon and plane crash, it is hard to be completely accurate that the attack had no special significance to America itself. Democracy is the weakest it has ever been, and is only going to get weaker as the Apathy in politics continues, and the lack of education continues.

Debbie last thing I would like to say is your whole page on muslims around the U.S. and around the world is invalid. Once again, you are only doing this to frustrate muslims enough to say something you want them to say, or act a certain way because they feel they are hated. It is wrong what you are doing, and if you are part of any religion, lying is a bad thing, and you will never enter the gates of heaven for as long as you stay the way you are. Keep the hatred in your heart, since the lord knows what is right! Let them deal with the devilish, false hatred you have in your heart. You should feel proud you either support world domination, or are completely brainwashed... Congradulations Debbie, and to all Americans who read this, you are all very special people, and I am not Anti-American! It is an amazing thing to live in a free country, but its scary when the freedom is being taken away little by little. Watch this video fellow americans, for it may actually teach you something...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-jbJ6PCnfgs

Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!

I love that a great deal of the 'conservative' comments are full of trashy language and pathetic spelling. "We'll hate the Islamic world because it weakens the moral fiber of America, right there with gay marriage and sex on t.v., but it's ok to defile our mouths with profanity!" - Yeah, makes perfect sense.

"Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouth but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen." - Ephesians 4:29

God has no political agenda

Once a Bigot, Always a Bigot !!!!

smandley says, "God has no political agenda". It depends whose god you're talking about. Qur'an 9:29 says to kill (the word qatl is one of the many Arabic words for "kill") Christians and Jews unless they acknowledge Islam or pay the religious tax and live as dhimmis. And that is a political agenda to the max.

Note to Sam: The word Islam does NOT means peace in Arabic. It means submission or surrender, and it's meant in a purely spiritual sense as it refers to submission to God. The word for peace is salaam, and again, relative to the religion of Islam it's meant as spiritual peace. It has nothing to do with not killing your enemies.

"An honest politician" is an oxymoron. And people are shocked and surprised when one lies, especially one running for President?!? I'm more surprised when one actually tells the truth, and then I wonder, 'what's the ulterior motive?' or simply 'why?'.

People are in an uproar about Obama's past or autobigraphy or whatever. I venture to say that ANYONE'S autobiography in the entire history of time has been white-washed, or at the very least, biased or based on selective amnesia. Hell, most of the history they teach children in school has been white-washed.

So far, the only thing I object to about Barack Obama is not his name, his religion nor his race. It's just that he seems a super lightweight - all charisma, smiles and sound bytes that sound like he plagerized the entire greeting card section of a pharmacy. He promotes himself like he's the epitome of the American Dream. As if THAT'S enough qualification to become President. These are seriously flawed times, and we desperately need a serious candidate, and I'm STILL waiting.

Even I, as a casual bystander, can go to the site of a multiple train wreck and say how terrible it is, and start assigning blame, and make countless comments and opinions about it. I'm more interested in listening to the person who has a viable plan to clean it up and try to FIX it.

So far, in this Presidential race, there are a staggering amount of candidates who are playing bystander, and I've yet to hear anybody who has viable suggestions on how to fix the mess this country is in. (The possible exception is Joe Biden, who at least has a PLAN about Iraq - right, wrong or indifferent.)

I don't need someone like Obama to tell me the obvious - that things need to change. That Washington politics need to change. That the country needs to change. DUH! I know the voting public seems to be getting more apathetic and stupid, but I don't think we're THAT gullible yet. (At least I hope not!)

Tell me specifically HOW, WHEN and WHO will pay for it, and then I'll pay some attention to someone - ANYONE. It's really easy to play the blame game, and sling mud about inconsequential things and bicker about how candidates are raising money or brag about how much they have hustled out of the public.

The past 6 years should be testament enough about mixing politics and religion, you know, our President that is both a member of the Religious Right and the GOP. At this point, I'll give more credibility to the candidate that DOESN'T talk about religion, which I think, quite frankly, is a personal matter between me and God, and it shouldn't bleed into politics. (Yes, I know if too often DOES.)

As for Barack Hussein Obama - does anyone REALLY think that he has a prayer to be elected to President or VP? The sad reality is the most of the public won't even delve into his past - they won't get past his NAME anyway, with all the crap going on in the Middle East and the long memories from 9/11. People who don't know will simply ASSUME Obama is Muslim, because in the past 30-40 years, usually a black man in America with an Arabic first and last name, more often than not, IS a Black Muslim, that awareness brought into focus by the more famous Black Muslims that have been in the news. Perception, too often in this country, CREATES the reality. No, I realize that just having an Arabic name does NOT automatically make you a Muslim, but then prejudice never takes the road of rational thought. Just look how long prejudices stayed alive against ALL Asians after Pearl Harbor, Korea and Viet Nam.

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Converting from Judaism to Christianity is quite natural, because that is just what Jesus Christ�s teaching is all about. Thus, Christianity can be considered as a perfection of Judaism, at least from the standpoint of Christians, although Jesus is still rejected by Judaism until today. In contrast, Islam is a direct antipode of both Judaism and Christianity. To come to this conclusion, you have to study Islam a little bit further in order to free yourself from prejudice. Although Islam acknowledges Jesus as a prophet, it rejects Him of being son of God and that Jesus died on the cross. In fact, Islam considers Jews as pigs and Christians apes, as recited in a number of verses in the Qur'an, specifically Suras 5:60-65, 2:65 and 7:166.

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Thanks, Debbie, for banging this drum. I agree that at this point serious evidence of Obama's "allegiance" to Islam is slim. However, considering the fanaticism of Islam and the practice of taqqiyah, it would not surprise me if he has strong sympathies towards Islam.

I also concur that fighting Islam constitutes the "war of our lives." Other than natural disaster, there is no greater threat to civilization than Islamic fundamentalism.

Although I don't play the "right v. left" game or label myself with terms such as "liberal" or "conservative," I am glad to see that there are others who understand this grave threat, including the heinous and diabolical Sharia Law, as practiced by the Shiites. (Sunni Sharia Law is apparently less harsh.)

Acharya S
http://www.TruthBeKnown.com

Your research is the philosopher's stone and I look foward 2 Barack Hussein Obama B'n the last Calif of the world Insha-Allah LaihahahilAllah or Laghalabilla'Illah

"islamofascists"? "caliphate"? oh, geez, you right wing redneck freaks crack me up! you really gotta stop reading and listenin' to Savage, Limburger and the rest of those corporate lying bastards! hahahahahaha! hell, the muslims can't even get their own part of the world together, and they're gonna CONQUER the USA. oh man, I'm laughin' so hard here! hahahahahahahaha!

I read article about this man in newsweek... your text is interesting too. Thanks and i wait for more.

Thank you very much, may there be world peace someday!
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I admit that I have not read EVERY comment posted on this page, but one thing that struck me was the topic of who enrolled Obama listing him as a Muslim in school. It has been my experience that if the "head of the household" is an active member of one particular faith, he will teach it and it's edicts in the household himself. Obama needed not learn anything from the Koran in school if his step-father was a practicing Muslim. And who has ever heard of one who isn't a practicing? I am sure that he learned more at home about that religion than most children are learning in so-called "Christian" homes. In fact, the majority of house-holds in the United States list themselves as "Christian" even if they have never stepped foot into a church as an adult. They just list that as their "religion of choice" since that is what their parents or grand-parents were. If Christian and Jewish children were taught in the home about their religion as much as Muslim children are, there would not be an empty seat in any Church or Synagogue in the whole United States of America! Muslim children are not only taught about their religion, but how to follow it's rules in their day-to-day life! How do I know this for sure? Unfortunately, I live in an apartment complex with thin walls and my neighbors on either side are muslim. It is HARD to miss their meetings, the prayers, or the mothers admonishing their children not to play with the non-muslim children. And if you don't think that muslims in the USA are teaching their kid's hate, then explain to me why I saw a little boy playing one day with a stick, running around screaming, "Death to the infidels!" It was not a kid that I recognized from the complex, but that does not mean that there are not ones here that are being taught the same hate-filled theology. It is enough to make the arms on your arm stand on end! I entreat EVERYONE to learn as much as possible about EVERY candidate, especially Obama, and then vote and in informed citizen!

The claim that Barack Obama is Muslim has been debunked on Snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

You should check your facts before you run this stuff.

Why is it that if someone in this country makes an anti-semetic remark or uses the "n-word" there's a huge uproar but when it comes to Islam any fool like Debbie Schlussel can say whatever they choose?
Debbie, you should keep your trap shut until you know what you're talking about. You claim to know the truth about Islam but the misinformation you keep spewing proves that you're nothing but an ignorant hick.

I am glad to have the change to read all. Very useful information for all who has interest in this area. I personaly had great advantage from these informations.

I think Barack or baracka or whatever, cannot be president if he can not put his right hand on his chest and say the pledge of alligiance. There is no way I will vote for him. I can't vote for someone to be President of the United States if he cannot do the pledge of alligiance. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't feel that I am.

Are you people seriously going to demoralize and degrade Barak Obama because of his NAME? What's wrong with you people? He didn't choose his name, and he didn't choose his family roots. Every one of your families could have been Nazi enthuiasts, or heretic Islamic extremists, but you don't see anyone complaining about you. Barak HUSSEIN Obama is his own person, who can think for himself and choose his own path in life. Why is he so horribly bad because of his name? If his name was John Johnson, you wouldn't be writing these neo-conservative, ignorant Nazi comments. He's a person. A human being just like the rest of you self-righteous idiots. Quit being such mindless, self-absorbed, neo-conservative robots and learn to think for yourselves and make rational, unbiased opinions. You people make me sick.

OK - so maybe it is interesting to know some of the man's family history. However, I have never heard of Christians opposing conversion. Isn't that the whole goal of Christianity - to bring all of the people to Jesus!?! So, now, only those who start off as Christians are both fit to be considered Christian AND fit to be considered president of the USA? Does any one besides me think this is crazy!?!

Excuse me Debbie: in Judaism, being Jewish is passed down by the mother, regardless of whether one practices Judaism or not. Moral of the story: what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Meaning: most Christians are Jews by tradition, regardless of whether they practice Judaism or identify with Jews or not - you too, heh heh!

I think that Barack will be good president for USA, but i am not US so it is no my interest...

This is crazy!!!!!! His connections are scary on so many levels. Why, except for contempt for the American way of life, would anyone even consider him. This is a great way to see who the real enemies are. We need to understand that all this will end badly. The majority will only bend so far then break. Any futher and we will need to change our name to "United World of America". sick!

Personally I don't care if he is Muslim or not. So what if he went to a Islamic school when he was a child. Hell, we already have an Islamic member in congress.

I don't care if Obama is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Mormon, Bhuddist, Jew, or whatever. All I care about is can he get the job done. What is his views on abortion, gay marriage, trade policies, national healthcare, and IMPORTANT ISSUES. Religion needs to be irrelevant to politics. Church and State, gotta keep them separated.

wooow Is this how intelligent americans are.....thank God I dont live in the US...

OK...Debbie, first of all...you look constipated in your picture - try using your favorite laxitive.

Now here's the problem with you...YOU ARE TOO STUPID to have your own website and to be posting ignorant statements. You have made a complete fool of yourself by exposing your ignorance to the world. Actually, I don't even remember how I found your site, but you caught my attention with your ridculously boneheaded fictional story.

Let me set the record straight...Just because a child's FATHER is Muslim does not mean that child will also accept Islam as a adult. Islam, like all religions, is a system of beliefs, not a human gene. Therefore, Debbie, as a thinking adult, anyone has the right to choose whether or not they believe in the teachings of Islam and it don't matta who yo' daddy waz....You should learn to Google some basic info before you go off making ridiculous claims.

BTW...Islam is actually a very logical and simple religion if you actually take the time to truly learn and understand. You would do yourself a great injustice if you try to learn Islam from a Christian or Jew that has negative slight. It would be best if you read about it on your own and then actually spoke to a PRACTICING Muslim. Debbie, a PRACTICING Muslim is one who actually follows the teachings of Islam. A Madrassa is a school where the basics (aka fundamentals) of Islam are taught. It's kinda like Sunday school for those Christians...you know? The word "Madrassa" is just an Arabic word for religious school. It's not very complex...I hope you have the mental capacity to understand. You can also look at it as Bible Study except it's Qu'ran Study.

I am a proud Muslim that was born by German parents, raised, and educated in the USA. I am a VP of a very large technology firm and I have a bunch of Jews and Christians working for me.

I still don't understand why we Americans are so scared of Muslim Americans....True, practicing Muslims are actually the MOST sincere and honest people you will ever meet...That's what captured me when I was introduced to Islam. That's why I converted. Islam is the ONLY pure religion out there...everything else has been contaminated. I don't trust molestor priests...they want screw little boys under the guise of religion...hypocrites. I don't trust zionist Jews who are bloodthirsty bastards looking to kill every innocent Muslim in Palestine and justify by talking about their "land" bullshit. The blood of the innocent will be on their hands and they will have to answer to GOD (AKA ALLAH) on the final day of judgement!! ALLAH knows EVERYTHING!!! HE will punish those who kill...everybody knows that, right? That ain't no secret..

So Debbie, before you continue to make a fool of yourself, please do yourself some good and learn the truth about Islam.

The name Baraka is also swahili for blessing. I happen to have worked with Baraka Senior at the Department of Water Development in Nairobi. Not once did he talk about his religion. We went regularly to "watering holes" for buzz. If Baraka Obama says he is Christian who are you to say he is not?I thought Christianity, and other religions are a matter between the converted and God? I would rather leave that for Almighty Himself to judge, certainly not you. By the way Obama pays profound tribute to his mother in his book. I think she was a very intelligent and nice white lady... after reading the book that's the picture Obama paints, not bad for a mother he loves (still loves.) I am really baffled when you claim that he treated his fathers side with notoriety but not his Mom. Debbie the white society at the time rejected him. What was he supposed to do? Be serious if you were to walk in a black persons skin even for a day Debbie you would be the worst hate monger there was.. All along some of us have felt the need to work together for the survival of humanity but with attitudes like yours Debbie who would want to go down that path? When you spew hat rate you get hate rate back. For goodness sakes try civility. By the way what is your religion? Let us not judge others lest we be judged Debbie.

I don't think Barack should be judged by his fathers background or religion. just because his father believes in something doesn't mean Barack does. i think this country is ready for a little change, i mean we went traditional with the last president and look what happened!! he told everyone that he has military experience and the only thing he is experienced in is getting special treatment in the National Guard and not going oversea's because his daddy had alot of money in the oil wells. but he has the audacity to send our men and women over to Iraq to get killed!! im outraged!! i say vote for barack or hilary well anyone really we need a change in this country!!!!!

Camlane you are sooo right. Religious extremist is always a problem. When people act on the basis that "the father above" told them to act a certain way then we find ourselves in a big mess. When Muslim extremists kill to become martyrs we find ourselves in a big mess as well. This is why the idea of separation between religion and state is always a good one. Camlane most Politicians are willing to send someones else child to war but will not send theirs..... if they so believe in their cause why shouldn't they be willing to send their kids as well... Barack should be evaluated for who Barack is not his father was.

kwelikweli

Wow!! It's finally all uncovered on him! He sure does know how to lie to us Americans!
Please....no one place this liar in the Presidency position!! Who knows what he could do to all of us once he's in command...
If he truly is of Islam decent, I'm sure he has all kinds of cruel plans for us!!
I'm scared. I can't believe he got this far!!

AS I read a comment you posted on December 18, 2006, I was disgusted at your ignorance. First of all, above all, CHRISTIANS are built of LOVE. Your apparant HATE for another culture (Islam) condemns your respect from the start!.

Now the BIG question to you and everyone else who is misled about PATRIOTISM is :
"When did a war on terrorism become a war on Islam?"
You ignorant, pervasive-minded, mis-educating, mis-educated, genetically deprived woman!
YOU are of the people who fight with the demons against God's people. You have done EXACTLY what Jesus rebukes! May your soul find repentence and mercy in the spirit of GOD, who NO man has seen.
Peace be unto you.

Ok.... what the HELL does his color or his fathers heritage have to do with how he will run this country. WHY are people ONLY going to vote for this man JUST because of the color of his skin? HE HAS ALL THE BLACK, HISPANIC AND ASIAN VOTES by default just because he's "black". I also want to know why he seems to be ashamed of his white heritage? when he is asked what he considers himself to be, he immediately answers "african american". I don't understand. I want to know why people, some of you as well, why you focus on such trivial things like color and religion when that has nothing to do with running this country. His color wont bring our troops home, or get uninsured people some health care. His religion plays no part in fixing the economy or helping homeowners keep their homes.

Its people like you, and i know my post will be deleted, but its people like you that make the united states look bad. In reality, washington and this country in its entirety is broken. We need the best man for the job. It doesn't matter what color he is or where his beliefs lie. Let him pray to whatever the hell god he chooses, it doesn't mean he will strap a bomb to himself and blow us up. mUSLIMS are not bad people, there are the extremist "muslims" who are the bad ones. They are actually their own hypocricies... true muslims do not or believe what the extremists do. And if Obama chooses to call himself a christian... let him. WHO CARES?

Lets remember what this country needs.. and forget the mindless stuff that we dont need... such as focusing on ones color or religious beliefs. Instead of moving ahead to a better world, it only keeps us behind.

I AM NOT a democrat, but my god, lets focus on reality... lets focus on fixing our wonderful country. As Americans, lets stand together against all different points of view and decide who the best person for the job is.

the previous post is a perfect example of ignorance. this reader is apparently ignorant of the fact that islamic ideology is a polital ideology and the president is above all a politician.
and i tell you as an ex-muslim: in Islam, Muslims are instructed to "defeat the infidels by any means"( sitation from Quran ) and in other places in Quran it is said that deception and lying is allowed if by these means you can destoy the infidels.
now you see why Obama Hussein is not so particularly troubled by falsely claiming to be a chritian because with this he can reach a position to bring to the fruition all the efforts of Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi who has foretold that he can convert "all the population of the US into Shia Islam"

I don't know if it's amusing or sad that people are perpetuating this hoax that Obama is Muslim, sworn in on a Koran, turns his back at the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance, etc. Mostly I think it's sad - the amusing part of it is that the type of person that would believe this or repeat it without investigating it is the type of person that would be duped by the old Nigerian check scheme.

For those of you who still think this sounds like nonsense...it is.

Obama has never been a Muslim.

Obama was not sworn in on a Koran (that was Kieth Ellison)

Obama has never turned his back on the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance.

Don't take my word for it - do a little research. Still don't believe it? Where are the pictures, videos, papers, etc. that would prove any of the allegations?

Don't you think that it would be plastered everywhere if any of this was true?

I am very passionate about the issue being discussed and this is a few feelings from a youth in America...

First of all this is a statement from Obama's church.

-We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.-

You can read that paragraph and take it as you want to, but I feel America is a melting pot of cultures and races; not one race is better than any other. And I'm glad the church is true to their native land of Africa and not America!!!! As a christian myself I do not think a church should ever claim itself a black church, or a white church. If all my church talked of in its bulletin was its "white" people then I think it would probably cause a riot. Also, this church is a very liberal church; it isn't the Church of Christ affiliation as it's name makes it appear. The values and practices are quite opposite actually of the Church of Christ. Why isn't anyone attacking these issues and delving deeper??? Even if Obama isn't muslim, the fact that he attends a church that only mention's african americans is somewhat racist in nature. Insert "white" where black is in that statement and see how many get livid over it. Does America not learn from history? Do you not think people were brain-washed in the Nazi era thinking that that sort of behavior was ok? I feel America is brain-washed and no wonder foreign countries in Europe see the American people as purely ignorant.

More importantly, whether Obama claims to be muslim or not he was born and raised with it surrounding him and it is instilled in his mind. He does not seem to be for muslim religon but he is definitely not against it which in my opinion is very scary. I was born in a die hard democrat family and I am very open-minded but its hard for me not to vote democrat because of what my family believes. Read books on raising children and you will find how greatly a child is impacted by age three and how most will not change thereafter.

If everyone has forgotten, not very long ago some muslim men went to our schools and deceived quite a bit of people while obtaining there licenses to fly planes. Do you not think this took many years to plan???? These men deceived passengers, airline personel, security...not one person was suspicous. And then thousands of lives later two towers fell in ruins as brave courageous American's of Flight 93 took down a plane. I want to be an American like the brave souls of Flight 93 and fight deception for the lives of the American people.

I am not oppossed to a black president, in fact I think it is great. But we live in a christian nation and it was founded on christianity. As we fall away from christianity our nation begins to crumble just as so many great dinisties have before us. I am an American, I am a christian, and I am more importantly proud of it. I support those who have faught for our country with my hand over my heart no matter what patriotic song is played as our president should. Sure all of this about Obama may be conspiracy but if it is then he should address the issue and Americans need to start asking before once again we are deceived...

Numerous christian martyrs were killed because they refused to accept the muslim religion, abandoned it having held it previously, or, in many cases because they were falsely accused of having formerly been muslim and of abandoning that belief. In the muslim world, to be a former muslim is a crime, but for people not part of the muslim world, to have been a former muslim should not be viewed as any sort of crime or offense. Likewise, to have a muslim father, mother, other relative, or associate should not be viewed as a crime. There is no evidence Obama was or is a muslim. That his paternal relatives were muslims should in no way disqualify him to serve in public office in the US.

Strangely enough (if? strangely) Arab Muslims do not arise in me any negative feelings whatsoever. I and my family had many encounters with them, primarily in their shops and on the market, and I can say nothing but good about those Arabs I met (not many, about 20). It's of course, not too much to make any generalization. Besides, they may just pretend, but I, who nervously feel any human being till the very depth of my intuition, felt overall normally socializing with them. And that's why, and also because I know some Arabic and always tried my chance to speak Arabic with them, I learned, how deeply (not by words, who may cheat) but by heart they hate and despise blacks - all blacks, including Muslims. And I know by myself that they have all rights to feel so. It is BLACKS and primarily BLACK MUSLIMS, not just ANY MUSLIMS, who are human-hated criminals. BLACKS usually convert to Islam while in prison. They hate and try to harm/rob/burglarize/kill anybody WHO IS NOT BLACK MUSLIM. I was a victim surviving several violent crimes against me, all committed by BLACKS - and none by Arabs. And I know plenty of Arabs who have been victims of BLACK crimes and who, actually, feel like me, as they shared their stories and their feelings with me. Each of BLACKS dreams to be a king - and trample anybody else by his foot. THEY are the real enemies of the civilization here - and there too. And THEY try - and always would try - to get the upper hand in all terrorist groups and organizations.

I think it is a mistake. The latest poster concerning Arab Muslims has been posted by MarcAurelio. You need to check the verification data. I am sorry for my part for this error in which I have no part. My user name is again - MarcAurelio. Christianman is somebody else. I will try sign out and sign in again to check.

It works now. I am back to myself. Of course, Hussein ibn Saddama is an enemy of USA precisely because he tries to conceal his Muslim preferences (I am not a fan of USA, by the way, and I have never concealed this fact. I just wait until I'll have enough means to return with my family back to Europe). I think, this is his mistake, that he is cheating about this issue. He is doing it because, though he is very slimy, he is very primitive too. It would be much better for him to admit it openly. By the way, returning to Arabs I met - none of them who was a Muslim (not all of them were, by the way) tried to conceal this fact. Would any of them be a terrorist - it would be another story, of course. MarcAurelio.

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Re: Obama's Church 6-Jan-08 01:58 pm Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get? Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along. To think that Obama has even the slightest
chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below:
This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:

www.tucc.org/about.htm

Debbie, You are using slippery language to besmirch Obama's character. You use the phrase describing his Kenyan father "apparently a Muslim" without giving any evidence of his father's religion. You state that Obama "may think he's a Christian" with no proof that he is not a Christian. You use the bigoted statement, "we are fighting the war of our lives against Islam" characterizing all the Islamic people as the terrorists we are fighting. Obama knows that his 4 years as a boy in a Muslim country will be used against him by the misinformed. But there is no reason to disbelieve the reports by the Chicago Sun Times, and the Christian Science Monitor, that in spite of his mostly agnostic parents, he is a Christian and an active member of the Trinity United Church of Christ ever since he answered an altar call in 1988. I trust Obama's faith description more than I do the misinformed words of others.

Actually, you got it wrong. Obama has never been declared a muslim. The school that he went to for two years is described as public school open to all faiths, not a muslim school. Obama never was nor is a muslim. It is a negative slant, put out by right wing wackos who don't know what time of day it is.

greate! haha

I can actually say that this Information Of Obama being Muslim Is false!! His father is from Kenya witch was a British colonial country. Also Obama's family are part of the Luo tribe who were the first tribe to be part of British Ruling. Religious affiliation in Kenya are mostly Cristian Protestant 45%, Roman Catholic 25%, Islam 10%. The People who are Islamic are actually Indians from India who's ancestors settled. So if Obama is Muslim then BUSH is a Jew, Oh I forgot he is. I see alot of negative comments on here none of witch have any type of constructive critasisum. Wicth is why no one in the world respects us anymore and trust me I travel. If we are to be a nation that sets standards a nation who people respect around the world then we need someone like Obama and Less people being negative. Other wise this country is doomed.....Obama is a sign to the world that the USA is evolving I hope you don't get left behind in your ignorance. God bless peace and Love

Oh And by the way we talk about Muslim faiths being hard and brutal but The Church is the most corruptest organization in the world!! For almost 1000 years after Christ died it has being takeing over nations and Killing all who don't believe in it. America was meant to be the place where the English church had no influence and people could believe in any faith. Europe and the UK has been terrorized for nearly 70 years!! By the IRA You don't see them bombing everyone and acting scared. If you let terrorists and the media scare you to think the world is crashing down then they have won in there goal to Terrorize you!!

Debbie Schlussel you sound like a bright ladie please get your facts right and find out the truth for your self and get out of Hilary's butt hole. Her Husband might as well be running if Hilary is so ready why is Bill the Only one talking?

Debbie, I disagree with you that once a Muslim, always one. The bible never excluded ANYONE
to come to HIM (Y'shua - Hebrew name for Jesus, the son of God) and be Born Again. Old things are passed away, and all things have become new. Your statement was not biblical,
to say what you said.

However, I have concerns if Hillary, McCain, Obama, Huckabee, Rudy, or Ron Paul get into office.
All different reasons - and I don't know which is worse or better.

I will not hold Obama's family history against him; however, I would expect him to let
us know what HIS personal feelings are towards the religion of some of his family
and his feelings towards Israel.

When you say something is "likely" - that means nothing. We need to stop assuming
things, and talking like that (not using words like - LIKELY) and get FACTS.

If Obama is a born again believer, that has given his life to Y'shua (Jesus), then I don't care
what his past is. I don't care how many times he did drugs or what church he went to at
10 years old.

But, if Obama is attending a BLACK ONLY church (segregation) and is really apart of
the ecumenical movement (apostate church) - than we are not in agreement as far as
faith is concerned - because I believe they serve "a different Jesus, another doctrine" then
that in the inspired Word of God. See: www.chick.com bible translations.

Now - I will vote for a non-christian over a Christian man or women - if they restore
our constitution and support more of the issues that I do - like social security for one.

If I get some information, that can be verified to be truthful and backed up - that
Obama is now a practicing Muslim and he wants to destroy Israel and hates white
people (the pain he had to go thru as a young man struggling for his identity) - then
I will NOT vote for him..and he should be exposed.

But to say once a Muslim ALWAYS one...is not fair to him or to anyone. That is like
saying a person can not change - and God can change the heart of ANYONE. Maybe you
can find Y'shua as your Lord and savior - and see how HE can change a heart and make
a person whole. Go to www.chick.com again - and search for MEET JESUS.

I have no clue who I will vote for - I am looking at Edwards more and more since
I do not see Kucinich anymore, and I guess he is not running now?? But Edwards
needs to stop talking about getting rid of Public Housing and replace with Section
8. Huckabee I am listening to - but I am not sure of his stand on many things. Hillary
I got to like more and more when I saw her personality come out - BUT, her husband
is the one that I think pushed those trade agreements that took American jobs and
hurt the poor in those countries and talked about a New World Order (or a One World
Order) or something like that - which was not good in my eyes and bible prophecy
for the ushering in of the anti-christ and the cashless society and one world church
and all that.

So...I am not counting Obama out - but he doesn't have my vote right now either. No
one does! I am still listening to Obama - like
everyone else that is running. The last article against Obama; I posted in my blog without checking it out. I had to edit it later. NOW - articles like that or yours do not influence me to go against Obama - only to search for the truth on my own.

http://www.flingr.com/blogs/action/showblog/BlogID/789/

What nonsense. And besides, everyone knows Hillary is a Wicca, and practiced pagan rituals in her coven when in college. Bill is a secret vizeer in their auxiliary coven in Hot Springs.

I am a conservative Republican, and I find this article deeply disturbing. We should not stoop so low as to engage in absurd and immoral smear campaigns. Attempts to belittle a man's faith in the name of a political campaign is as disgusting as it is immoral. I am not a supported, but I can stand blindly by as people fan the flames with ignorance. Barak Obama is a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ and has been for over twenty years. It is the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ. It is part of a liberal denomination that was the first to ordain an African American, a woman, and a gay man. Congregants have described it in the New York Times as a "warm and accepting community," and while it is a predominantly African American congregation, people of all backgrounds attend and are enthusiastically welcomed. It is what it is - another man's faith - a political rival's faith - but let's stop stooping so low. - Caitlin

for open minde peoples be honest people?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/clinton-obama_slugfest.html

know the truth and make your decisions then we can discuss and debate

for open minded people please lets be honest...typo correction

I once heard a caller on KGO-810 News Talk (Bay Area, San Francisco) that "Barack" is the name of the black horse which "Prophet" Mohamed is said to have "ascended" to heaven. She proudly said that she has a picture of the horse in her living room and is all excited to vote for Obama. He can deny all he wants that he is a Muslim, but the Muslims of this country and the rest of the Islamic world can't wait to have a Muslim American President. I only hope that the stupid Democrats who are trying to elect him get some sense into their heads before it is too late. We need to stop him at any cost...

I have tremendous respect for Mr. Obama and his accomplishments. But one must not forget that neither the world at large nor America is ready for him to be the president. I think if Mr. Obama was really sensible and smart( as I think he is) he would join hands with Hillary Clinton and would aggressively campaign for her, that is the only way to bring change in the white house. Our country has lost it's credibility and status in the world badly in last eight years. Only way to restore it by bringing someone who has knowledge experience , world recognition and support. I can't think of any one better than Hillary Clinton. We need someone who is going to unite America and not divide just to get votes.
Mr. Obama and his supporters must not forget what Clintons have always done and felt for African Americans of this country. These are very sensitive as well as precious times , I would strongly urge Mr. Obama and his supporters to support Mrs. Clinton. That is the only way to show their loyalty and humility. Nothing can be achieved by being arrogant and high headed.
I would like everyone who is reading this please support Mrs. Clinton and restore our country's status and dignity on the WORLD STAGE.

I Think you guys are complaigning about nothing!
That is his past and we all got past:
he is a strong guy and we all have to admit that; him being a muslim does not make him disqualified.
I think he will be President of America because he is a challenge in Mrs Clintons eyes.

I had heard that there were people like the ones I've found here. I had to see it to believe the terrible bigotry and ugliness. Sad but true.

if hillary were elected,america will again experienced the worst terrorist attack ever seen since 911.electing obama is sending a message to bin ladin and staff that america is not fighting against all muslims but against any extremist muslims.but if america were to fight all muslims in the world? there are billions muslims in the whole world and about 200millions americans.the coran is very powerfull and each muslims can blow him/herself up.americans will be swept from the earth in less than a day and eventually the end...no offense to good americans.this goes to all these ignorants and racists gringos talking bout obama..americans need change starting by the way they think and act..there are a lots of ignorant and dumb americans known all over the world even in africa.you need to change that and be a role model..comprendre???

OK What is sooo sad here is that people actually believe him that he is not Muslim. I don't know but here is my theory ...after carefully inspecting the evidence... I see that Arabs...i mean Islamic Arabs and Islamic fundamentalists have INVADED our country folks and are silently taking us over. We are in BIG trouble...let s all ban together because it could be a revolution on our soil - we might have to defend us on our soil or die as martyers. In fact us Christians who die at their hands- or your hands to the Islamics that are reading this ar ethe true innocent martyers. Do we come and kill innocent unarmed citizens with suicide bombs and such in your country ? No
And Sarah (or Sar'ai whomever you call her) HAD TWO SEPARATE CHILDREN one was named Ishmael- th efirst born and Second was named Isreal. SO you are Ishmeals descendants TRUE but you are ISREALS BROTHERS and you are like Cain murdering your own brothers! IN fcat God told Abraham BOTH sons would become great nations! Neithe rone of you are going to heaven unless you accept Jesus...most highest sacridfice of His own flesh and blood on the Cross of Calvery! HE DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD, arabs jews, muslims, but you hav eto believe and accept God's Sacrifice of his ONLY SON...hid blodd is for YOU
ALL OF YOU!

i mean HIS BLOOD THE BLOOD OF OUR OWN LORD AND MAKER shed for all of us.

Back to evidence of a silent takeover and we better come up with SOMETHING!
Bridges collapsing (terrorism- trying to cove rit up the government is) mysterious large accidents, all the ports being sol dto Arabs such as Baltimore ....and now the acceptance of a possible Muslim for President. I don't know but the fact no one questions his religious faith worries me. We have been fighting Arab Muslim terrorist (back then called pirates) since teh beginning of our country. Jefferson fought them. Look it up.
And I still hope they all see the TRUE LIGHT and come to JEsus!!!!! HE IS GOD INCARATE ...even the wise men from Arabia cam eyto worship Him - they should do before it is too late.

You people are out of your minds!!!!
Do you realize that Barack Obama DID NOT name himself?????? HIS WHITE MOTHER NAMED HIM PEOPLE!!! It's no different than your mother naming you Debbie or whatever. There are parents that have named their kids Apple, Summer, Spring, Moon, and so on and so on. You cannot help what your PARENTS name you!!! Come on!! Stop thinking with small minds. As for Barack saying that he is Black, just imagine if he called himself White - would he be accepted as a White man? When a person who has a mixed raced heritage, they are often forced into one category or the other - not because they want to be, but because the establishment FORCES them to chose. Tiger Woods went through the same thing. You people are perhaps some of the biggest racists and bigots I have ever come across. I can't even believe that people like most of you exist. Barack is an American man. He is no more Muslim than you or I. He can't help who his family is any more than you or I can. Some of you have people in your family who are drug addicted. Is that your fault? Some of you have parents who cheated - is that your fault? You can't stop your parents from being who they are. He couldn't stop his father from being Kenyan any more than you can stop your father from breathing. Stop being idiots people! By the way, did George Bush do a great job for you? Did he give you everything you thought you wanted? Did he provide for you and your family? The sad answer is no. Stop being stupid people.

Elections are confusing enough. It seems to me we always wind up choosing between the lesser of several evils. Who can we believe!? It's a proven fact that during a campaign season, presidential-hopefuls become obsessed more with winning than with any loyalty to the United States or its people. Most of the comments that I've read are filled with so much controversy, back and forth from Muslims and Christians. To all of you Muslims and Christians alike, there is such a thing as discernment that we all are supposed to pray for. We CAN NOT know the truth because no one tells the truth; however, in some cases you must go with your gut! My gut tells me that neither Obama or Clinton are above board. Honestly, I'm praying that any of us who may have the great fortune of finding TRUTH, will hold onto it so that on that great day ahead we stand worthy!

Incidentally, "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes..." Romans 1:16. I am a Christian and I approve this message.

Some of you are worried about the possibility of having a US president with ties to muslim organizations. What could Barrack Obama really do? Use taxpayers' money to fly Osama Bin Laden's family members back to their homeland without ever being questioned after the worst terrorist attack in American history? Or perhaps he could have the Bin Ladens and other Saudis as major investors in his businesses. Or he could just simply go back on his promise to not rest until Osama is captured. Whatever sympathy Barrack Obama brings to them "Muzlums" as someone called them earlier, it will be hard to top the current president's love, admiration and dependence on them.

mrosad01,
Many of us realize the damage a Muslim president could do to this nation. The real horror for the US; however, is more the pure lack of concern the people of this country truly have for what matters. I could care less about anything Obama would do with our tax money. For some people, that's where their treasures lie - in as much material possession as they can accumulate. I happen to dread the coming day when our country moves from at least mostly Christian to a nation of people who'll accept any religion so long as it benefits them materialistically. Get your prayer blanket ready, Rosa, you may have to learn to use it. If you've never bowed to the true God, I'm sure you'll have no problem bowling to Allah! God have mercy on the USA

Obama's nomination as president of the United States of America will definitely empower extremist muslims. A black american muslim convert once said that one day they will storm America, and that muslims will rule.
Be informed, and deliberate well!

Wow!!! LOL!!! Good thing this crap doesnt work!!! Barack lives!!! Now will I get kicked off this site for not being as ugly as the rest of you??? So much hate...if what you have going on is so great, there is no need to tear others down, you could have my attention if you showed me why I should share your views...but tearing Barack down...This wont work!!! He's not dirty enough!!!!

Here is the Ninth Commandment: Exodus 20:16 "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." Barack Obama is not a Muslim. He has never been a Muslim. He is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. If some Muslims think he is a Muslim, that does not make him a Muslim. Here's another lie: Schlussel says, "We are fighting the war of our lives against Islam." This is patently false. The United States of America is not at war with any religion. Consider this: Germany is a predominately Christian nation. In World War II we were at war with Germany. Does this mean we were at war with Christianity? Jesus said, "Know the truth and the truth will make you free." Debbie Schlussel is a malicious liar. As a practicing Christian I am ashamed of her.

some of these views and comments are outrageous....It shows that hatred and prejudice lives on in the United States. Barack Obama did not choose his father, mother, his name nor his past life style and if we were all judge by our families, and the past errors most of us would not get far. Lets not forget that 9-11 happened before Barack Obama and our current president had affliation with the Bin Ladens. What goverment members allowed terrorist to enter America. What goverment help fund the terrorist in America? Guess what it was not Barack Obama and they were not Muslim...Did Bush lie,did Clinton lie, did Oliver North lie? many have lied and have caused American lives and to my knowledge none of them had Muslim names or had a father who was a muslim.

It's hard to believe the level of ignorance that exists in this country is so high, and yet, look at most of these comments. I wonder how all of you who have fed into and posted to such ignorace would feel if the tables were turned and you were being accused of something you're not. All of this is is actually pretty laughable, sort of like a playgroud fight: "You're a cootie monster"
"No I'm NOT"
"Yes you are, 'cause you went to cootie monster camp last summer so you must be a cootie monster"
"I'm not a cootie monster! I only went to cootie monster camp because my mother made me!"
"Well the other cootie monsters think you're a cootie monster, so you are"...insane.
What's next? My mama & your mama?

thank you unibiased8752, im glad to see that there are still sane people on this site. how can people post such obsurd comments. has not our nation progressed from such stupidity. can we not learn from history and move on from such narrow mindedness. how can you judge the merit of an individual and their capability of running on naiton based on the religous affiliatiate of a parent? it just saddens me that i live in a world were people still have the brain-capacity to be so... well stupid

by the way i am an african american teen who does not plan to vote for obama (i am a hillary clinton supporter) who is a christian.

well we all know there are no perfect candidates running for office,but there doesnt seem to be any perfect people anywhere else either.This country was founded on being able to live a civil life along side of others with different beliefs but apparently that ideal can only last for several yrs. As a right wing republican Christian I dont know if I want to live with the Christians who persecute the muslims or the muslums who persecute the Christians

Obama's nomination as president of the United States of America will definitely empower extremist muslims. A black american muslim convert once said that one day they will storm America, and that muslims will rule.
Be informed, and deliberate well!

http://www.oyunambari.com

After reading many of these posts, I find it quite embarassing to say that I live in such a country! Why is everyone so full of hate just because a man is different? Did our fore-fathers not create this country because they wanted freedom to be themselves and not be forced to believe and do things they thought were wrong? Yet at every opportunity we get as "Americans" we go after the individual who is different. Did it occur to anyone that maybe if Obama got elected as President and it is true that the Muslim community sees him as a brother that HE might be able to bring peace in the Middle East and even have all terroristic attacks towards America cease? Did it occur to anyone that we might get cheaper oil because of this? Are we not all complaining about how expensive gas prices are and how it makes living our lives harder? It costs more just to get to a job were our wages aren't rising fast enough? After all Obama has done in helping serve the public in Chicago, you would think that would be good enough! How about Africa? You are talking about millions of people who can actually connect with one of their own through such a powerful position! Maybe he can get the leaders of those countries to help their people the right way. I know all of what I said may happen...but we have had 43 white presidents and they haven't been able to get the job done!!! Can someone else get a chance? Is 43 white guys a true representation of the makeup of our country? If you think it is...then you, my friend need to open your eyes, wakeup, smell the coffee, and pinch yourself a few times, this is America!

I have always had an akward feeling about Banana, when he speaks he has no valor in his words and what he stand for.
His fathers religions DOES NOT cause me to become unnerved, rather his untruthfulness, that which he can not uphold. Seriously, if he is going to lie about his heritage he than is going to promote false promises and not be truthful toward the American people.Honestly, who does he think he is, and where did he come from? Banana, split!

my advice is you decide to elect him or not according to what do you think he'd do for you as americans. in many comments you talk about Islam, you think you know Islam, actually you don't, Islam does not ask people to kill other innocent people, and if anyone does so, it is because someone played with his mind and convinced him that this is what he should do, but it is nothing from Islam. and osama bin ladin is not the image for muslims, you just have to read and know more about Islam from reliable sources before accusing Islam of anything.

I am very concerned about Barack Obama's popularity. I have always been a Democrat so I was open to him. But, unlike a whole lot of people, I am not under his "spell". I am a very intuitive person and I get the overwhelming sense of "darkness" emanating from him. He is very angry, and I understand the positive side of anger--it gives a lot of energy and drive. But I just think that there could be something lurking inside him that is not healthy, that perhaps he is aware of and perhaps not. I relate him to the Anakin Skywalker character from "Star Wars". Anakin Skywalker had a lot of potential at a young age and he was believed to be "the Chosen One" and in many ways, so too is Obama. But Anakin Skywalker also had a lot of anger, and even fear. This was manipulated by an evil dark Sith Lord who appeared to be for Democracy and yet was really manipulating behind the scenes the opposite. And of course, the result was the Chosen One became the monster Darth Vader. And the whole time, no one saw it coming, not even his beautiful and intelligent wife. I think we need an awful lot of discernment. And I am not saying that I am right, and the last thing I want to do is to smear anyone, but, I was not at all surprised when I later read that he was a Muslim and went to Muslim school for a time and he currently has a first cousin who is very involved with the current persecution of Christians in Kenya. If he says he has a relationship with Jesus, well, you could say that so do Muslims, for they believe that He is a prophet and is mentioned more times in the Quoron than is Mohammed. And it does concern me that I hear the black centered church he is involved with recently honored a Muslim who is clearly racist towards whites. I think that the danger of having a black power movement involved with Muslims is that both are dark skinned and many Muslims are Black/African and that they stir up animosity that white Americans have been and are their enemy--so one will feed off of the other. And I think this is a very legitmate concern. I think that many oppressed black people could get the wrong message and more harm could be done and instead of healing and going forward and we could go in the worst possible direction. God help us all.

Okay for anyone who thinks this is all made up you can go on snopes.com That websites always lists facts and myths whether it be about spam email or politicans. You name it, it is on there.
Coincidentally Obama is the most sought out subject on that website. If you take my advice and go on there you will read how he attended a radical muslim school where perhaps some of his classmates are now the muslims who are fighting a "jihad" against America. There also is a stunning photograph of him without his hand over his heart during the star spangled banner despite the others in the picture (including Hillary and Gov. Bill Richardson ) holding their hands over the heart. His excuse was that when he was little his grandfather taught him that you only have to hold your hand over your heart during the Pledge of Allegiance(Which by the way he does do...there are pictures on the site). My problem with this is there was also an American flag present in the picture and that is one of the greatest symbols of America. It is not written in stone but generally people follow the flag code of putting their right hand over their hearts when an American flag is present and during a rendition of the national anthem. I just don't seem how someone can run for President but not honor the standards of our country.

I would not vote for him. Not because he is Muslim, but because I am a Republican with different views than him. I know that just because he is Muslim does not make him a terrorist. I have a Muslim friends who are not terrorists. Although it does freak me out that Obama went to a school thats past students now hate America and are fighting a Holy War against us. The reason I would not vote for Obama is because of his lack of foreign policy. He propably is the least qualified candidate in that area. Just because I am a Republican doesn't make me racist or a hater or whatever else you'd like to call it. I love Condi Rice!!! My decision is determined by my political affiliation and then by whom I think will do the best job as President.

A lot of people talked about his lies. I have read some political books and you discover that most of what candidates say isn't true. We probably don't even know half of the truth and the shame of it is we never will.

If anyone has every read George Washington's farwell address you would see how it directly relates to this blog. He address how the division of political parties will become a threat to our country if we let it get out of control. Of course we all have different opinions but we can at least have the decency to respect one another. Don't forget we are all Americans and no matter what anyone says I know we have better lives than most people dream of in our countries.

Why is the media so reluctant to point out that Obama Hussein was educated in a Madrassa? This indoctrination into radical Muslim philosophy took place during his formative years, folks!

I really don't care what the "debunkers" and his former teachers say; would you expect them to actually admit that their school teaches radical Islam and hate for America, especially when to keep silent would mean that "one of their own" could infiltrate the Oval Office without a shot being fired?

At the very least, you know these Wahabi radicals, whether they know Obama Hussein personally or not, are filled with pride at the thought of their Muslim brethren now being the ruler over us American citizens.

Such scary times. I am no HRC fan, but with the way Obama Hussein has practically hypnotized the electorate, you'd better hope and pray that Hillary kicks some major ass in the upcoming CNN debate.

Firstly, check out this web site if you would like more infor about Barack Hussein Obama Jr.
"The U.S. Veteran Dispatch"
In essence it states that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is a Kenyan-American. He was born in Hawaii in 1961 to Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. who was alrady married to a Kenya girl names Kezia from his local village. His garndparents and father are Muslim and Barach Hussein Obama jr. was brougt up as a muslim.

What I did not konw is that it was legal in Hawaii to get married to a man Barack Hussein Obama Sr. {who was already married to Kezia) So that would suggest to me that his parent were not legally married according to American laws.

Barack's father abandoned his Ann and his 2 year old son Barack jr. "It takes a village to raise a child" apparently not in Kenya.

Barack's setpfather Lolo Soetoro was a Muslim from Indonesia. Barack studied the Koran and praticed the Muslim way of life. His mother Ann was an atheist, so not much about God from her lap.

Now, apparently research indicates the Dunham's of America (Ann'a ancestors) owned black slaves and the Kenya tribe leaders of Luo, which are the ancestors of the Obama family in the late 1800s exploited black tribes enemies and sold their captures enemies as slaves to the British slave traders until the slave trade was abandoned in 1876 in Zanzibar.

Barack Hussein Obama Jr. belongs to the Trinity United Church of Christ. Their unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian web site declares its congregation to be "An African People: The National minister Jeremiah A Wright preaches "African-American unity throught antipathy toward whites."

In Barrach Hussein Obama jr.' "The Audacity of Hope", is borrowed from one of Rev. Wright's sermons. Therefore, Obama Jr. has no inspiring words of his own, they are taken from Martin Luther King, President John F. Kennedy and now Rev. Wright. So, therefore ladies and gentlemen the Grammy winner for "The Audacity of Hope" goes to Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright.

People wake up, check into this man that you are voting for, check his heritage, his affiliation and his own personal beliefs.

And do not forget his wife. Michelle Obama, I saw her being interviewed on the Larry King show.
She looked like a deer staring into the headlights.
She spoke and dressed and carried herself like a Stedford Wife.\
She was unemotional, and answered all questions with her speaking points only.
Revealing such exploits of her husband's such as "leaving BUTTER on the table. Oh My!
Dirty socks on the floor, well don't worry Michelle, if Obama makes it to the White House you can hire a maid to pick up after the slob.
Being home for Christmas, taking you out for your anniversary, well what a wonderful guy; he must be the only American man doing such things for his wife and family. Excellent reason to vote him into the White House.

All I am saying is "Who is Barack Hussein Obama Jr."

Whether or not he was born a muslim, and whether or not he is lying thru his teeth and he is a devout muslim in sheeps clothes (protestant)the fact remains that he without a doubt has muslim pursuasion and incentive. What would happen if he gets 'in bed' with great 'grandad'? How much money would you turn down from auntie-whoever if all you had to do was sell out a country that is already sold out? hm....the potential for real and present danger is enough for me to wonder how he has come this far....oh that's right, liberalization, perhaps straight into a babylon where our neighbors are anything but neighborly. It's not a biased thing, it's an american thing, and while we ourselves are mutts and vagabonds we retain our native rights to defend and preserve our way of life, this collective life having been built for FREEDOM BY GOD FOR GOD.....not allah, not muhammed. Yes, it matters greatly if our president follows (whether secretly or in error) another God. And if some of you are comfortable with a 'could-be muslim' protecting you and your loved ones, please read your history and don't be fooled. ~M

To those who think Barack Hussein Obama is a Christian, once a muslim always a muslim. And then we get the "Muslims are peaceful comments.. watch these videos.. there are about 6 in the series.. http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=d7d9bf74191e006d8e24

i have been reading all the comments on obamas muslim background. I encounter nmany persons of muslim religion and although the people i encounter are likeable persons they do follow their religion to perfection. they have a newsleter that they read and i have read these newsletters. thley are totaly against the ewhite race (at least that is what the newsletter say) please do not counter with contradictions. i HAVE READ several of the newsletters and frankly the writings scare the hell out of me.much has been said of romneys mormon religion but obamas has been put non the back burner. why?

Hi Debbie

You have an interesting blog and your question is quite stimulating.

I am a Canadian, who is also a political junkie, and a stanch supporter of Senator Hillary Clinton.

As a Canadian we get a lot of T.V. from the States. I use to respect CNN's coverage of world events and their coverage of tragic events such as Hurricain Katrina, school shootings etc. However, no matter what blog site I visit there are complaints of CNN's bias again Hillary Clinton.
What I would like to ask you (if you believe the bias to be true also) if you could post another question regarding the overall media( newpapers, t.v. radio etc.) coverage of the democratic primaries. Thank You!

Muslims, Jews, and Christians all worship the God of Abraham. There are a minority of Muslims in the world who distort their religion to justify their own violent agenda. Hitler and the Nazis did the same thing with the Christian faith.

Obama was raised by his maternal grandparents and ia an American. He's NOT religeous . . . at all. Check this link for a typical American story. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/070323obama-early-photogallery,0,5458360.photogallery

Let me try that again . . .
Obama was raised by his maternal grandparents and is an American. He's NOT religious . . . at all. Check this link for a typical American story.

As a former Peace Corps volunteer and community organizer and business owner, I would like to say the following:
While in East Africa, I taught classrooms full of youths who were Christian, Muslim and indiginous religions. The teachers were also of many religions -- there were also Buddhists. Everyone got along in respectful friendship. Here in the U.S. I hired the best persons for the job. Two were Muslims ...I AM CHRISTIAN. All hiring practices say that we must hire competent people without regard for race, religion and gender! I am a respectful U.S. citizen and I love my country. As a community organizer, I went to ALL segments of the community (including the Nation of Islam) in an effort to demonstrate TRUE DEMOCRACY AND RESPECT FOR ALL RACES and RELIGIONS. At the local state college, the leaders of temples, churches and mosques came to make speeches so that students would have understanding about all social and religious groups. We are living in THE most pluralistic country in the world. It would be unAmerican to not form working relationships with all. Christian politicians in particular are expected to interact in a democratic way with ALL segments of their constituency. Also, those who are familiar with the Black Church and the importance of the religious institutions in the Black community know that the Christian and Muslim leaders in the Black community frequently come together in prayer, for funerals and special occasions. They are expected to demonstrate cooperation. African Americans also are very appreciative and respectful of the courage and sacrifices of "Black Leaders." Though all Blacks do not agree with all of the positions of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, their contributions are esteemed -- and they both ran for President of the United States and are loyal U.S. Citizens and Christian leaders WHO ARE BIG ENOUGH TO REACH OUT TO MUSLIMS AND OTHERS WITH DIVERGENT BELIEFS. Bottom line: I think you, Debbie, are placing a "religious tag" on Obama out of a lack of true understanding. I happen to know that he is a true and tolerant Christian who is able to demonstrate true democracy. All of these vitriolic and intolerant accusations do the future of our country no good. If you don't like him or want his presidency, simply state your preference. But to assume he is lying about being a Christian because he hires Muslims and otherwise demonstrates respect for Muslims and African American social activist is not logical.

most of the people who commented on this are probably people of the opinion that anyone who is not a white Christian person are beneath everyone who is. why don't you do some research and you will find out that most of the religions you look down on have been around a lot longer than christianity, and make just as much sense as almost every other religion on this planet. As for the radical muslim thing, doesnt that just remind you of what christians used to be before the 1900's. take in example: the crusades, the witch trials. the radical muslims just happen to be the ones doing it this time around, and the christians are the victims, such as all other so called "pagan" religions were the victims back then. i mean honestly if any of you knew anything about any other culture or religion other than your own, you would probably change your opinion about not only barack obama, but all other different looking and sounding people accross the planet. seriously, get a clue or shut up. thanks for letting me rant, and please try to be a little more open minded. racism, and intolerance are exactly what this country and this world do not need. in order to do anything to help someone, we must first understand what motivates that person, and then we must use that understanding for the good of all people in this country. to say that someone is a radical muslim and will do nothing but hurt our country and kill innocent people, without any evidence or true understanding, is wrong. what would you say if someone said christianity is wrong and they are all bad people? you would tell them to think and look before they speak, would you not? so please dont think this is a hit on any religion, race or sex. but please try to be open minded and actually research things and try to fully understand them before you say such ridiculous things. thank you

What about the fact that George W. Bush's Grandfather was affiliated with the Nazi party and attempted to start a coup aginst the US government? Should we be judging 'W' for his father's father's actions? The BBC reported on this but not a word about it here from our 'liberal' media . . .

Has American voters gone mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His name and being a member of a church tthat thinks Lewis Frrankan is worthy of an award that the churchs give to people they respect and aggree with.

George Bush did'nt attend an all white shcool, that is all muslim school. Muslims are the most dangerous religion in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't give a damn about anybody's color, race, ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual orientation or whatever else. The only thing that concerns me is whether or not they are an asshole. In the case of Hillary, I say yes. Yes because she strikes me as a complete phony who would suck any dick and put up with any abuse (i.e. Bill) in order to get the one thing she wants: power. In the case of Obama, I say no, but that doesn't mean I'd vote for the guy. He strikes me as shallow in the sense that he doesn't have any real substance on policy matters or experience behind him. He's a fly-weight who also strikes me as smarmy and/or smug. McCain? Another dickhead who promises more of the same Bush BS.
God help America, because you're going to need it (you had your opportunity with Ron Paul, but you prefer things get worse before they get better. Enjoy the ride, boneheads, enjoy the ride).

Damn...

well.. like some of the ppl i decided to procrastinate and make an account just to comment.

i'm a senior at rutgers. my parents are from the philippines. i was born here in america. don't know how to speak my motherland language. i'm pretty american. i was an all-american for basketball in hs. now why do i get the feeling that i'm smarter than some of the people who are writing these entries.

i'm 21. i don't watch cnn or read newspapers. i watch mtv. i voted for the other guy in 2004. don't remember his name. i don't care about politics. i'd rather talk about espn or a video game.

i came across this page because i googled "barack obama muslim" in the search bar just because i didn't feel like studying just because i was curious if he was african-american or of arab decent. Well, i guess i know now.

Some people really hate Muslims? Why? I bet your the type of people who would call Iranians Arabs.. which they're not. I learned it at school. some of you should go back ASAP.

Some of you people are smart, i gotta say, for believing "if you are going against someone then do it by credentials and all that stuff. not on religion or a name.." BUT some of you have weird logic..

my grandfather (a filipino american retired US general) is voting for mccain. at least he made up his mind without starting a hissy fit. stop with all this muslim hate. if you wanna bring up weird comments that have nothing to do with politics, how bout this one... wasn't jesus from the middle east? does that disturb you that he bears more resemblance to a muslim than a white man?

Hi ladies and gentlemen.
This was interesting.
I am glad that it didn't take place on paper. What a waste that would be.

People: The original article was meant to stir people up. Don't let it bother you. It is obviously stupid to assign guilt by association and by innuendo.

It got some of you to register at the site. Me too. That is what was wanted in the first place. We all wasted minutes and maybe hours reading this drivel. Now our emails are collected in someones database. What are they going to do with them? Don't bother with replying to this drivel, and don't bother with registering for this site unless you really need to let off the pressure building up in your bladder.
I bet this person gets paid by the number of replies. I will know this is the truth if it doesn't get posted. If it does get posted don't bother to reply unless you put a call to ignore this blog in the post. It isn't worth the angst.

Oh.. that's German. Am I a NAZI??????? You be the judge.

Please, people. Save America. We had enough with these senseless, brainless, shameless muslims. Please not a muslim president to rule the free world.

http://muslimobama.blogspot.com/

JUST MY OPINION!!!!!!!

I cant believe as AMERICANS that we are even considering the idea of having BARACK OBAMA as leader of our country. Did we not learn our lesson with 9-11. Have we no heart or soul that we forget so easily all we lost on that day to allow this person to run our country. This is AMERICA not the republic of KENYA.

Do you people not think that if the BIN LADEN and all his followers went to so much trouble to seek out all the planes in which they would need to carry out their plans of torture on our great land, all the time and money spent, all the people involved to carry it out that they would not set the wheels in motion to have one of their own come into our office and destroy our country.

I am sorry but if the people of AMERICA think thats its ok to have a Represenative with a foreign SOIL background rule our country that we are no longer the LAND OF THE FREE. We are no longer the LEADING COUNTRY of the world. Do you think that KENYA OR IRAQ OR SAUDI ARABIA would allow an AMERICAN family to move there, give birth to a child and then let that child become their LEADER. I THINK NOT.

Do you people not remember all the talk of a man in a TURBAN who will be the one to start a NUCLEAR WAR. Well BARACK in that TURBAN doesn not make me want to invite him to lead our country. If we thought having the BUSHES run our country was bad enough I think we are in big trouble inviting BARACK OBAMA which to me OBAMA sounds a little to close for comfort to OSAMA, to run our country.

HAVE WE ALL GIVEN UP SO EASILY.

WE ARE AMERICANS AND AN AMERICAN SHOULD RUN OUR GREAT LAND.

B-Born
A-A
R-Rebel
A-American
C-Citizen
K-Killer

O-Observe
B-By
A-Assassinating
M-Most
A-Americans

IS THIS WHAT WE HAVE COME TO.

Wow! I heard about people like you who were conspiracy obsessed and not swayed by facts.

I was raised Catholic and the church calls me a lapsed, not ex, Catholic. Doesn't make me Catholic now! Look at some real sites instead of the fake news blogs you are obviously looking at.

I sincerely hope you people don't vote. That's probably how we got what we have now and are in the mess we are in.

WOW I never realized that religion isnt a choice. My mother was jewish so I must be a jew, I have no choice, just like Obama. This entire article is a ridiculous attempt at a smear on Obama, stating that he is ashamed of his heritage, because hes proud of his christianity is completely absurd.Obama never attended a muslim school either he attended a public grade school where the students were promintently muslim, just as a public school in america is prominently christian, but it is much more diverse in Indonesia. His father was raised a muslim and was a self proclaimed athiest who beat his wife and was an alchoholic. Why would an upstanding christian citzen support his father or the way he behaved. This article is a misleading smear that neglects the whole truth.

Senator Barack Obama is the finest candidate for the presidency our nation has had since John F. Kennedy and his brother, Bobby. The Bush presidency has been an unmitigated disaster for our nation and for the world. Senator Obama has the vision and the courage to begin our healing (our recuperattion) from the valley of the shadow of Bush and into a new day of brightess and openness, and to begin rebuilding our nation's stature in the world community of nations. The Republican National Committee will go to any length to smear him and raise doubts about him, as Debbie Schlussel (whoever that is) tries her best to do in her column. We can hold our heads high again in America after the shame and corruption of the Bush years, and President Obama will elevate our thoughts and our vision to do just that!

Barack Obama was born a Muslim and spent his early childhood in a Muslim household. If he were to be declared by conservative mullahs to be an apostate (one who has forsaken Islam), he could not meet Nuri al-Maliki, Hamid Karzai, Pervez Musharraf, King Abdullah, Abu Marzen or any other Muslim leader. If they shook hands with an apostate, they would bring down a fatwa on their own heads.

But would he be declared an apostate? Koranic scholars differ.

This blogpost is balanced and has no anti-Obama agenda.

http://robertwoodrow.com/2008/02/12/obama-the-muslim-thing-revisited-2/

Religion matters to a lot of people. Hint: we are engaged in a world wide religious war. HMMMMM... Nobody can tell me that I can't consider if somebody is Mormon or Muslim. Being POTUSA isn't like getting a grilled cheese at the lunch counter. It isn't "open to the public". My ability to consider someone's religion isn't bigotry or a "religious test for office". This clown isn't even a decent faith healer. Somebody needs to put a montage of his "bottle of water" trick and play it endlessly during October. If he wasn't a radical leftist JUST THAT would have had him out of the race by now because CNN, and the old networks would have shown it a hundred times as "news".

Anybody in Texas, go vote for Hillary in the primary. I did already. The guy running for the GOP likes to be "respectful" to our enemies. He only loses control and starts screaming the F-word and threatening other Republicans. We need to keep Hillary in there as long as possible. Also, we could survive 2 years of Hill with a Dem congress followed by 2 years with the GOP in control. Obamahdi may have us all dead by then. Remember an Obama Nation is an abomination.

Another interesting post on Obama from that guy Woodrow.

http://robertwoodrow.com/2008/03/01/how-to-pick-a-president/

Obama-
Barak- is the creature "like lightning" in the Koran that transports the messenger and the message of Mohamed.
Husayn (Hussein)- Means beautiful gift from Allah. He was the grandson of Mohamed, the son of Ali. Ali was murdered over the rift of divine blood giving Mohameds descendents the right to rule. It created the Sunni/Shiite split. Hussein was to be the uniter and bring about the new unified reign of the "moslemic" empire.

Barak Hussein literally means the beautiful gift from Allah who will deliver the messenger and his Message.

What's in a name?

This stuff is too good to make up.

who wants a president who won't recognize the american flag? who won't place his hand over his heart when the pledge of alliegenece is recited? i certainly don't.
if he becomes president.. he will probably let the taliban and alquida come in here and bomb some more buildings or blow up airports.
we need a christian president who loves this country and it's flag

I noticed that all posters have to be approved by the site owner. This probably means that my comments which contradict hers will not appear, but here I go anyway. Barak, in the Bible, leader from N Canaan who fought, with Deborah, against Jabin and Sisera. source Dictionary.com and the book of Judges, Chapter 4: "4 Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading [a] Israel at that time. 5 She held court under the Palm of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim, and the Israelites came to her to have their disputes decided. 6 She sent for Barak son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali and said to him, "The LORD, the God of Israel, commands you: 'Go, take with you ten thousand men of Naphtali and Zebulun and lead the way to Mount Tabor."

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The author is an idiot! I fear that I will be repeating this comment many times on this blog. None of what she says is fact is actually facts. Sen. Obama never attended a Muslim school..blah..blah...blah. Once a Muslim always a Muslim? Well that is a first. I suppose I could iterate similar idiocracies such as once a dumb redneck always a dumb redneck, once a liar always a liar, so forth and so on. First, HE was never a Muslim. Second, his father's choices were his own and do not reflect on Sen. Obama. It is unclear to me why the approx. 3 million Americans living in this country cannot see the complete and utter disgust of the rest of the world because an election is decided based upon racial, gender, and religious prejudices. Yet we love to pretend that we are so enlightened, well above the uneducated savages in other places. The majority of the people in this country are good, moral, thinking people; however, it seems the only ones writing articles and being interviewed are incapable of a logical thought process and fear what they do not understand which apparently is infinite!

By the way the post above which starts "just my opinion" saddens me that I do not have a vocabulary vast enough to describe the nonsense that was posted. Idiot, lunatic, simple simon, mild mental retardation, bigot, obviously not very well traveled, poorly educated, socially handicapped etc. None of those describe the poster justly. Hmmmm..... I will have to consult the dictionary to identify a word which means complete and utter lack of any functioning neuron!

The following link is an interview done by you tube with Obama around 5 min 30 sec they ask if he would help the people in Kenya, I noticed that he tries to get the American people to see how helping them would help us. This is where his Muslim father is from and obviously from his answer, if made president he would help them.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B1MGi12RspA

This link has some interesting information on obama the education section especially. It talks about his drug use and how he didn't change his religion until he was married in 2007.

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm

This guy is going to aid the ragheads in destroying our freedom.

they all talk about bush making 911, it was prolly him behind it all along.

I am outraged that the americans would support an islamic? what are they thinking? don't they know islam is part of the evil access?

but believe you me, i'm going to do anything i can to stop him from winning.

this is part of the typical liberal douche bag attitude of unpatriotism and hatred of american values. liberals will do anything to destroy real white american values. I wish reagan was still prez, i bet he's turning in his grave.

Voting for Obama and jumping on his bandwagon is another event of American voter ignorance, as when George Bush was elected and the American public supported the war in Iraq in the beginning.

What most people don't know and are not talking about is the perception of Obama in the Muslin world is that he IS Muslim because he was born of a Muslim father.

It doesn't matter to them what religion he is now or says he is now.

This could be a can of worms that I personally don't want to open by voting for him.

I am very disappointed by this blog, and by the comments under it.

"American" is not an ethnicity, it is not a religious persuasion.

America is an idea. A fragile idea that liberty and self-government are the sine non qua of human happiness. That Obama has a funny-sounding name, or a foreign parent (who died while Barack was a toddler), has nothing to do with how "American" he is.

For over two decades (long before he was involved in public life) Barack has been a member of his local church...so I find it no more likely that he is a Muslim than that Mike Huckabee is a Muslim...

That said...what if he were a Muslim?

Islam, like every other religion, has its fundamentalist crackpots...but it also has pious, decent, hard-working people who -- while they believe that they are uniquely following truth and that the rest of us are in trouble following death -- have no urge to destroy everyone else.

Islam also, in no small measure, saved the West. While Europe had descended into the dark ages, it was Islamic scholars who preserved ancient greek thought...and when the West re-discovered these texts, it was a major spark of the Renaissance and a catapult to Western Modernity...

As for the comment that an American (I guess this is supposed to be code for a "white christian") would never be allowed to lead in Saudi Arabia, etc. I agree! And that is the reason I choose to live here and not Saudi Arabia. America, at her best, represents the greatest of human achievement.

That we are a magnet for the world's best and brightest, and that we have the wisdom and commitment to our values to allow them to help us, is a strength; not a weakness.

The "Barack has a funny name, he must be part of a 9-11-esque plot" is the height of stupidity. Barack is clearly not a muslim, but -- even if he was -- it would have zero to do with his ability to lead. Heck, it would be hard to do much worse than the current occupant of 1900 Pennsylvania Ave. As Martin Luther put it: "I would rather be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian"

With the exception of 'freedomlover', a good portion of all the comments (including the blogger) are largely undereducated with regards to Islam. I whole-heartedly agree to 'freedomlover' and I too, am a Muslim. The people here hastily consume the garbage that the bulk of the media puts out about Islam, and they fill in the rest of the information themselves with false assumptions. In every religion there is the good, the bad and the ugly. Islam is no different. Neither is Christianity, Judaism or any of the 50-billion other religions that exist in this world today. When we see extremists, we shouldn't see this as a fault of the religion they follow, but we should see this as the fault of how they, themselves, see THEIR religion. The KKK misinterpret and at times, innovate the bible according to their needs in justifying their actions. The same kind of terrorists do this with Islam as well. These people (by 'these people' I mean the blogger and all the commenters on here) should go to scholared Imam (the Muslim equivalant of a priest) and ask questions. Don't take my post as an insult, but rather as a suggestion to educate yourself PROPERLY through PROPER resources and not to take the bullshit that the media and Islamic-haters spew out. Thanks.

With the exception of 'freedomlover', a good portion of all the comments (including the blogger) are largely undereducated with regards to Islam. I whole-heartedly agree to 'freedomlover' and I too, am a Muslim. The people here hastily consume the garbage that the bulk of the media puts out about Islam, and they fill in the rest of the information themselves with false assumptions. In every religion there is the good, the bad and the ugly. Islam is no different. Neither is Christianity, Judaism or any of the 50-billion other religions that exist in this world today. When we see extremists, we shouldn't see this as a fault of the religion they follow, but we should see this as the fault of how they, themselves, see THEIR religion. The KKK misinterpret and at times, innovate the bible according to their needs in justifying their actions. The same kind of terrorists do this with Islam as well. These people (by 'these people' I mean the blogger and all the commenters on here) should go to scholared Imam (the Muslim equivalant of a priest) and ask questions. Don't take my post as an insult, but rather as a suggestion to educate yourself PROPERLY through PROPER resources and not to take the bullshit that the media and Islamic-haters spew out. Thanks.

brothers,,
let me tell you what i think,,
you all the people who said bad words about Islam is so unconscious to what Islam teaches, not only its people, but also the whole world and even universe. of course you r included sons (who said bad words about Islam).
Islam teaches peace,
prophet Muhammad SAW even said that hurting a non-Islam means hurting him.

you see that?
my prophet gives his name over the people who get hurt from muslims. his people, his Ummah. what a beautiful teaching?

that's why it's not reasonable to say islam is a rough religion,,
think twice sons,,

you people should learn more about islam,
everything that islam says (what Qur'an says) is explainable by science.

this not means that Obama is better to be a muslim or something,,,
he'd better be who he is and walks as Obama,,
not as a Muslim or Christian,,
nothings wrong with that,,

it's just my thought,,
my thought my religion's thought,,

i'm opened for comment and debate,,

I am Canadian, and have been watching with interest your election process. Saying that I have been very wary of Mr. Obama. From the first his seems to be saying one thing and thinking another, Isreal is very wary of him. As you know all Muslims consider Jews dogs. I am just listening to his speech on racism and from this speech I get the impression that if you are not black, you are in for a rough ride if he becomes president of your country.

I strongly believe its fate that I came across this site because this blog solidifies my belief on how segregated and shallow this country really is. For goodness sakes the guy (Obama) blatently didnt grow up with his father and has attended a Christian church from the well before his beginnings in politics and everyone searching for an apparent reason to not vote for a black man has linked him to one thing or the other. Muslim, Bin Laden, denying his own mother wow.LEts think for a moment this all is blatently absurd.
The last comment by the Canadian was as far-fetched as every other comment I've read on this site thus far saying that if you're not black then you're in trouble. I simply think he was right in his speech America has to move past racism. This country is in a state of disaster as we speak ( a recession, a devalued dollar)and at the speed the non-western powers are moving we need someone who is not easily bought but can have the americans best interest at heart. Someone told me last week that the populus that started this country isnt ready to discuss race and the more I read the cheap blows thrown at this genuine guy( compared to misappropriating Mccain or whitewater Hilary) the more I'm starting to believe it. Lets grow up people and focus on the bigger picture at hand --a better America.

YOU KNOW THEY SAY THE APPLE DONT FALL TO FAR FROM THE TREE.....WAKE UP!!!!!!

Wake up guys and open your minds!

This is the single most idiotic article I've read this month. Thank you Ms. Schlussel for making me feel better about myself in relation to you and the morons on this site who support this nonsense.

Reading this blog and its comments sickened me. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for your ignorance, racism, and bigotry. My name is Christian so I'm certainly not a covert Muslim, but I am still sickened by the intollerance that you people exhibit when you slander others with this garbage. While Obama isn't a muslim, I think it's sad that he has to try so hard to dissasociate himself from any notions that he could be connected to a non-practicing muslim. Followers of Islam are monotheistic people who worship the same God as Christians and Jews. Extream fundamentalism in any religion produces violence (i.e. Christians who bomb abortion clinics or fundamentalist Muslims who carry out suicide attacks).
Enought with the stupid "Bannana Hussy Obamba", it isn't clever or insightful.
I think I have a better understanding of American values than any of the bigots who believe that Obama is somehow the anti-Christ, that any possible associations with Islam mean that he's a terrorist, or that being black is somehow a huge advantage of his. Who could say that being black is a political advantage when he is subjected to such racism and intollerance as this. America was founded on the beliefs that "all men are created equall". I think a few of you need to review your history before trumpeting your unwavering patriatism.
In these comments, I see parallels to the racism of the Jim Crow south in the early 20th century, the anti-semetism and systematic slaughter of millions of jews in the hollocaust, and the same intollerant slander that the founders of America hoped to overcome in forming a new nation.
These views go against all the founding ideals of the country that I love.

It's so infuriating that we are still talking about this topic. Obviously he is not a Muslim. He's part of an offshoot Christian church that preaches a questionable message.

Just because his name is funny, doesn't mean he's a muslim.

Thanks very nice.

The following quote was taken from the website shown below. My comment follows.

http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/islamic-lying-taqiyya-and-kitman/

Question: Are Muslims permitted to lie?

Summary Answer: Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should be truthful to each other.

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. One of those circumstances is to gain the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
__________________________________________________

So even if Obama was a Muslim, he is permitted to lie and hide his true self. If he IS a Muslim, do you think he would get elected if he stood up and admitted it? Of course not. But wouldn't it be a great coup if he was able to conceal and hide his true intent and make it to the top of the American government?

I don't know what Obama is but where there is smoke, there's fire. So just to stay on the safe side, I say you have to cut this one loose.

Well it looks like no matter what BO does or says, ppl are still supporting him. I will bet that BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, he is laughing his ass off and talking like his REAL self, he is saying to his pastor and to Farrakahn and to Shapton, Jackson, James Cone and Michelle, (TAKE NOTICE THERE IS NO WHITE FRIENDS) Are these white MFs stupid or what? I can say what ever i want and believe the islamic ways and read the Koran and these stupid ass crackas will still kiss my ass. That stupid ass white bitch Hillary will not take the nomination from me...I can insult white God damned America all i want to! I CAN BE RACIST IF I WANT!!! They will still vote for me...I can part the missisippi river and walk on it too!!!! I will save my ppl from the white oppressors!!! The media has been helping me all this time and i bad mouthed them the other night, i gave it to them good and they will continue to back me and kiss my unknown ass till i win!!! I got white folks fighting for me, calling other white folks racist and liars.....We gonna see how they like pickin some cotten and servin our asses!!! I am gonna take reparations whether they like or or not!!!! I can hear the deep belly laughs from all of them.

YOU ACT AS IF IT IS A CRIME TO BE A MUSLIM IN AMERICA. THERE ARE ALOT OF HARD WORKING MUSLIM AMERICANS. OBAMA HAS STATED THAT HE IS CHRISTIAN, WHY DO YOU JUDGE HIM. YOU ARE A VERY DOGMATIC PERSON TO WRITE AN ARTICLE LIKE THIS. THERE ARE MANY MUSLIM THAT ARE GREAT PEOPLE WHO FEEL OFFENDED BY THE WAY PEOPLE CHASTISE OBAMA FOR HAVING ANY CONNECTION WITH ISLAM.

I AM A JEW, AND I AM NOT SO CONCEITED TO THINK THAT MUSLIMS ARE ALL BAD, GROW UP!

WOW, IF MY PARENTS NAMED ME DUSTY HITLER SMITH AND SENT ME TO A BAPTIST SCHOOL SCHOOL FOR 2-4 YEARS THAT WOULD MAKE ME A WHAT??? AND IF YOUR PARENT CALLED YOU STUPID DOES THAT MAKE YOU STUPID? "NO" IT MEANS SOME PEOPLE NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.YOU ARE GOING TO BE STERO-TYPED OR JUDGED BY VERY SMALL MINDED PEOPLE.AND I WAS A HILLERY SUPPORTER AND THE MUSLIM SHOT SEEMED LIKE YOU WANT PEOPLE NOT TO LIKE HIM. NOT HIS POLICIES.

It is disappointing to follow a link to this site and find, not facts, but assumptions: eg. Obama's mother married an Indonesian man who was (therefore) probably Muslin.

OK, 88% of Indonesians are Muslim but the spread is patchy. The probability of Obama's step-father's religion would depend upon the area in Indonesia he came from.

More facts please, less made up "facts".

Rocky makes a good case to improve the education system in America.

Thee Bruno has offered some exciting new information. It's a pity he hasn't offered any evidence to support his claims eg. that BO's first name was originally "Baraka". His posting is another reason fellow Americans have trouble sorting out the issues from the propaganda.

Thee Bruno must be referring to a religion I haven't heard of. What exactly does the term Muzlum mean? Is it anything like Muslim. I would think that an Arabic scholar who said that BO's real name is "Baraka" which is an Arabic word (according to him an his lunch-time inspirational discoveries from his imagination) would know that Muslim is not spelled Muzlum.

Anonymous twit posted an excellent message. He IS an anonymous twit. His understanding of Islam is confined to schoolyard level. Most Muslims are very moderate like MOST Christians. It is already permissible to swear on the Koran in Court if you are a Muslim. NB. Muslims are not forced to swear on the Bible (it's a book that anonymous twit probably has never read). Just more decerebrate hate speech.
PS. I am not Muslim.

I always wondered what website all of the uneducated Neo-Nazi Red Neck haters went to. Thanks... I don't have to wonder any more.

very thanks you
Oyun | Okey | Sinema |

OK, now I'm thouroughly confused. Is Obama a Muslim or is he part of a Black Christian Church?

He cannot be both.

You all are a bunch of ignorant fascist nazi types. This country needs to be split up into a new civil war so you can have your trailer park racist inbred fake christian fantasy and the rest of us can live in sanity and peace. would love to start a new civil war with you a-holes.

You all are a bunch of ignorant fascist nazi types. This country needs to be split up into a new civil war so you can have your trailer park racist inbred fake christian fantasy and the rest of us can live in sanity and peace. would love to start a new civil war with you a-holes.

Reading this thread I'm not sure which is scarier, radical Muslims or far-right Christians.

Actually, I am sure. It's you Christians - you scare the sh!t out of me.

You people need a good solid atheist for president.

I was browsing the internet and saw these interesting stories. Check them out:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317031,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16813267/
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_has_never_been_a_muslim_1.php

Also, here's new site that talks about whether or not Barack Obama is a Muslim. Finally, we can all learn the truth: www.fightthesmears.com.

www.fightthesmears.com.

LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT WHETHER OBAMA IS A MUSLIM!
http://www.isbarackobamamuslim.com/

Actually Baraka is a Kenyan name. As Muslims began trading along the coast of Kenya and intermingling with the natives several Arab and African words were jumbled and put together and that's how u have Swahili. And is it so wrong to know your family, it's natural. I am a Christian from Kenya ( I am a meru) and my dad left when I was five. As the child of two Revs. I am def. a Christian but I missed him and my mom's family that I never met before. If he attended a Madrassa, that is between him and God but wanting to get to know his heritage is nothing to be ashamed of.

And his mom was atheist anyway so she really didn't have a religion. Wow, I hate when people twist stuff around. Everyone knows that his mom was an atheist and as I said before he doesn't disregard his mother's heritage. If he really did, then adopted kids and kids without a parent wouldn't search out their parents.

Thee Bruno, actually the Mau Mau was a revoluntionary movement. It isn't fair that u apply that standard to one what u don't to the other. The American may not have had as many atrocities interms of violations of human rights (not personal rights) but certainly one or two torries were raped or violated. And people seem to forget that the Bristish did far worse to innocent people than what the Mau Mau did to the Bristish, I think 5-10 people Bristish people were killed. And Islam and Christianity technically came around the same time. Christianity yes a liitle earlier in Axum and maybe proto-Ethopian communities but Islam was right there. But that is in the East, there is proof that Islam had reached the North (still Africa) earlier the Christinity.

And Obama's father wasn't involved with the Mau Mau. By the time he went back it was over, plus he was a Luo. Luos had no reason to fight cause they were taken care of as domestic servants rather than having their land taken from them, they kept their land. Keep the facts STRAIGHT. Sometimes I feel embrassed about some of the people in this party.

Thanks so much.
http://www.oyuncambazi.com

Jesus said:
Love your neighbor.
Forgive your enemies.
Help the poor.

Seems like this is all being ignored. People would rather wait for Jesus to come down in his magic spaceship than follow his teaching.

Thanks so much.
Also, here's new site that talks about whether or not Barack Obama is a Muslim.
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I don't think so, he is not a muslim.

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How many millions of dollars have already been spent by his clean up crew on the fact that he was raised by Wahabbiests( The most extreme form of Muslim activists known)until the age of thirteen. How many books and articles have been written about his affiliation with those who hold to such extreme views? I live in Israel and I have many Muslim friends know of whom could be my friends if they held to these views by the mere fact that I am an infidel and as such a "natural born” enemy of true Islam. Now the question really at hand. How many have been written about John M. and how many could be written about loyalty and bravery and comradery when considering JM's life there in proof of character and worth.
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You Americanos are not as I pictured when I lived in the States in the 1980's for four years. Back then, I pictured you guys are tolerant. But now, I am afraid of you as I am afraid of the Talibans and other radical Muslims.

I might as well embrace atheist as my religion coz, there is no meaning as having a religion when people fight each other like that ....

and, for further information, Obama did attend a "SEKOLAH NEGERI" a government elementary school like the one I attended when I was in the States back then. Obama attended the SD Besuki, an elementary school teaches religion according to the students' religion.

There is also private school owned by Foundations, such as Muhammadiyah, Nahdlatu Ulama (Islam), Kanisius (Catholic), BPK Penabur (Christians)etc., but Obama did not attend Islamic Foundation private school.

So, you Americans, don't make me laugh please. Your words are just like the words of my uncle that is of local Kejawen Religion follower (a villager) that said America is a place where people go to hell.

My uncle is not educated and not an intelectual, so why do you guys make me laugh by words that usualy comes out of a 60 year old, stupid, uneducated uncle ????

Peace,

Darmawan
Indonesia

And, Lolo Soetoro is not a radical Moslem. Radical Moslems was marginalized during the Soeharto's reign. Soeharto's regime is Javanese-secular philosophy in nature.

Secondly, Radical Moslems cannot enter the Indonesian Army especially during Soeharto's reign. Lolo Soetoro was a carier officer (Leautenant) and resigned from the Indonesian Army because he was offered a job in Mobil-Oil.

Radical Moslems enter Indonesia in the late 90's.

1967-1971 where times of Indonesian hardship. A shift from Soekarno's government into Soeharto's capitalist-backed government.

2000-until now are hard times where Indonesian non-radicals like me are accused of being radicals because of several god-damned terrorist envade Indonesian to rejuvinate and offspring.

The terrorist that named themselves jihad warrior are just bullshit that adds misery to our country...so please, if you don't know the whole fact just shut up

Obama being a Muslim is just another stupid bullshit of the century...

My Christian-cousin fast in the Ramadhan month. But still goes to church. My uncle likes to worship his "Javanese Gods" and still say Assalamu'alaekum in occasions....

Are you Americans dumb, dumber or dumbest.

Indonesia is a multicultural, multi-ethnic and plural country....

Repeat after me:

HUSSEIN MCCAIN!

So much speculation... wouldn't it be great if Senator Obama could just come out in the spirit of full disclosure and tell us all exactly who he is. To specifically and in matter of fact tones, address all of these questions. From his mouth and in his words, no hair-splitting and being fully accountable for every word and deed.

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available"
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available
9. Law practice client list -- Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released

All this is pretty tough to take. Especially when anyone asks Senator Obama or his people to explain, they rather than just simply explaining, go into an attack on the questioners motives. Apparently, at least from what I've observed, to question Obama's past is the same as admitting that one is a bigoted racist.

All this could just be political BS, but why doesn't Obama just come out and address these issues, in plain talk that the people like myself can understand? The truth can set you free, so why doesn't Obama just speak the truth?

Obama may well become the next President of America, The Senate and Congress will likely be Democrat controlled, if things in America get worse not better, corruption and an overbearing government, what then? Pelosi and Reid have done very little of what they promised the American people would happen if they became the majority. Just knowing someone like me could end up getting yourself labeled as a dangerous conservative lover.

I'm far from perfect, but I am a red blooded American and not afraid to admit it...

all i know is that if everyone would just try to love each other and stop hatin this world would be a great place to live.and darwman go to hell we americans are not all like some of our leaders and we have more heart and soul than you will ever have.you make me laugh i cant imagine someone believing that you die and get a bunch of virgins for what hating and killing your brothers,yeah thats what god wants,spare me please.

all i know is that if everyone would just try to love each other and stop hatin this world would be a great place to live.and darwman go to hell we americans are not all like some of our leaders and we have more heart and soul than you will ever have.you make me laugh i cant imagine someone believing that you die and get a bunch of virgins for what hating and killing your brothers,yeah thats what god wants,spare me please.

I have been to many blogs tonight and it is so interesting what people are saying about Barack Obama. I keep misspelling his name, so it's either an omen or a Freudian slip... not sure :)

What most people seem to be missing is his inexperience with foreign policy and his naive way of thinking about nuclear weapons. He seems to think that we could dismantle ours and China, Russia and Iran would follow suit. I think he's just so sure of himself that he thinks he could convince them to do this. Talk about living in a dream world? Anyway, that is why I'm scared to have him as my president. The socialism thing would only last 4 years.... but a mistake with nuclear talks could be catastrophic.

The thing that scares me about Obama is if he would want to join the FBI they would not accept him due to his background, and i know this for a fact, so why accept him to run for president or vice president, or any branch what so ever, i think this is crazy.

Barack Obama is now not a Muslim. In Muslim word call "Murtad" mean that, 'a Muslim with health and good will be call Murtad if they beliefe for others religion (Christian and Jews)

Qur'anic reference
The Qur'an states that God (in Arabic, Allah) despises apostasy. See verses [Qur'an 3:72], [Qur'an 3:90],[Qur'an 16:106],[Qur'an 4:137] and [Qur'an 5:54] which deal with apostasy directly and which state that Allah will punish and reject apostates in the afterlife. Except 16:106-109, the verses that discuss apostasy all appear in surahs identified as Madinan and belong to the period when the Islamic state had been established.

W. Heffening states that in Qur'an "the apostate is threatened with punishment in the next world only," adding that Shafi'is interpret verse [Qur'an 2:217] as adducing the main evidence for the death penalty in the Qur'an. Wael Hallaq holds that "nothing in the law governing apostate and apostasy derives from the letter of the holy text."[2]

The dissenting Shia jurist Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, a significant Shi'a religious authority, states that the above verses do not prescribe an earthly penalty for apostasy.[8]

He should change his Muslims name 'Hussien' to Christian name. In others to avoid any comsumption among Muslims and Christian in US.

As next US President, we (Muslims) will hope that if he is really ex-Muslims and follow Jesus as his God, Barak should bring a lot of positive thinking and will told all over the world that Islam is not World Enemy. Barak should bring all positive thought what he have (when he a Muslim before) and clear all the picture to US people also.

However, Syukran, almost 80% US resident vote for Barak Hussein Obama as thier president. For me, Barak will provide a lot of change in US and the world.

Its amazing how many of you remain to have bigot, racist views of the Islamic faith and Barrack.

Islam is actually a very beautiful religion, and it is George Bush who has destroyed your vision of what it really means.

So what if Barrack is a muslim, and so what if hes not. The fact is, hes now the president and whether you like it or not hes here to stay.

To those who people who have such extreme racist views: You all need to get a life and learn rather than critizise.

I joined JUST to post on this stupid chain. All of you idiotic people who thought Barack Obama couldn't do it... guess what, he's your president!!! If you don't like it, move to another country, maybe you'll lose your bigoted ideals and appreciate how good we have it in America. (I especially liked the post about how we shouldn't have a president whose background is from "foreign soil"... how the HELL do you think this country was built?!?!? I hate to disillusion you, but we ALL have a "foreign soil" background.)

I joined this site JUST to speak some sense to you bloggers! (like 'miss obama')

We can't tell where Obama's loyalty lies and we may not find out until something happens, but you cannot assume that he is Muslim because his father was, whatever Islam belief about offspring may be!

I'm not saying he has no Muslim beliefs. But you don't know if he does either.

GET OVER HIS NAME!!! GOSH.
Just because someone has a foreign name and heritage does not mean they have an agenda to destroy your country!
Americans, use some SENSE.
You voted in Bush and the rest of the world knew it was a mistake long before your own citizens did.

Now I'm not saying he doesn't have an agenda and hey, maybe he'll lead the world to an end - I wouldn't be at all surprised. But so many of you are being unreasonable.

I am a Christian.
So are some of the other bloggers on here. That is NO EXCUSE to insult Islam and it's followers. Where is your godly compassion?!
I'm talking to the likes of LEXI and THEE-BRUNO, for example, who were plain rude.
Just because someone is Muslim doesn't mean they want to kill people!
There have been Christian extremists too, doesn't mean anything.
GOD SEES THE HEART and we have no right to judge people who believe something different, even if we consider it a 'false religion'. HOW ARE YOU SHOWING THEM CHRIST?

America; 'Christian nation', conspiracy enthusiasts (can I blame you after Bush?), Islam enemies,
you want to check out something closer to yourselves: Catholocism.
You want to know about false religion? Stop looking so far where it's easy to point the finger, and look at the paganism scattered through that 'Christian' Catholic Church.
Research your Bible instead of assuming Islam as the anti-Christ.

Don't be ignorant - foolish - niave - or JUDGEMENTAL.

Incredibly stupid two years ago.
Incredibly stupid today.

Barack won because he promised change. Change is not always good. It is just different. We will see in time if his way is truly an improvement like everyone thinks. I think this country has run fine the way it is. After all, it is over 200 years old so we must be doing something right. If we change our beliefs and our principals (for example, allowing babies to be murdered and experimented on with stem cell research)will we maintain all of our freedoms? For sure our children do not have any rights. I guess time will tell if it will truly be better.

The dissenting Shia jurist Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, a significant Shi'a religious authority, states that the above verses do not prescribe an earthly penalty for apostasy.| chat |

We can't tell where Obama's loyalty lies and we may not find out until something happens, but you cannot assume that he is Muslim because his father was

Obama visited northern israel during the recent Lebanon war, proudly extolling Israel's right to self defence."

I just stumbled upon this site today and spent some time reviewing posts regarding our President Obama dating back at least 2 years. It seems that a lot of folks who posted appear to hold the belief that "we" as Americans, are "at war" with Islam...I wonder where that idea arose from? We are fighting terrorism and some of the terrorists have come from Arab (of which there are a fair number of Christians as well) and (predominantly)Muslim countries, but to say that "we", as Americans are fighting "Islam" per se, is completely incorrect. I recently recieved an e-mail from a distant relative who re-emailed that the e-mail "wasn't supposed" to come my way; that it was an error. The e-mail read that "we have to get rid of the democratic leftists, as they are the axis of evil"...Yowza! Gulp...I wonder what he really meant...that was broadcast on the radio in Rwanda before the genocide too...(I was there).
I e-mailed back telling him that the true "axis of evil" is intolerance, ignorance and injustice.
I have some very close friends who just happen to be devout Muslims and whom I would trust with my life. They are also the same Muslims who taught me that true "jihad" is in one's heart...NOT necessarily "physical combat" of "the people of the book" (Christians and Jews according to the Koran). Sure, there are fanatics where ever one looks and fanaticism, I interpret as a form of intolerance due to ignorance. I also have relatives who are severe "born again" Christians who seem to me to be just as fanatical and judgemental (and dangerous) as any jihad slinging fanatical muslim (if not more). I have lived in parts of Africa that are Christian and Muslim, including Kenya, the "home" of our President's late father, a grandmother and various "half" siblings. My skin is as white as milk but I have never felt more "at home" than I did in Kenya. So beware of the true "axis of evil": ignorance, injustice and intolerance; to theses add one: apathy.

While Islam in general is misunderstood in the western world, perhaps no other Islamic term evokes such strong reactions as the word ?jihad?. The term ?jihad? has been much abused, to conjure up bizarre images of violent Muslims, forcing people to submit at the point of the sword. This myth was perpetuated throughout the centuries of mistrust during and after the Crusades. Unfortunately, it survives to this day.

The word Jihad comes from the root word jahada, which means to struggle. So jihad is literally an act of struggling. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said that the greatest jihad is to struggle with the insidious suggestions of one?s own soul. Thus jihad primarily refers to the inner struggle of being a person of virtue and submission to God in all aspects of life.

Secondarily, jihad refers to struggle against injustice. Islam, like many other religions, allows for armed self-defense, or retribution against tyranny, exploitation, and oppression. The Glorious Qur?an says:

?And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? - Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
[Al-Qur?an 4:75]

Thus Islam enjoins upon its believers to strive utmost, in purifying themselves, as well as in establishing peace and justice in the society. A Muslim can never be at rest when she sees injustice and oppression around her. As Martin Luther King Jr. said:

?We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people.?

Islam enjoins upon all Muslims to work actively to maintain the balance in which God created everything. However, regardless of how legitimate the cause may be, the Glorious Qur?an never condones the killing of innocent people. Terrorizing the civilian population can never be termed as jihad and can never be reconciled with the teachings of Islam

The Dinosaurs are Extinct, and soon your kind will be too, because of antiquated thinking, useless rhetoric, and an antagonistic, irritating presence. If hate is all you have inside, then, I can definitely understand why that seems to be all thAT comes from your very small mind. We are all Citizens of the blessed United States, and collectively, we should be thinking about our future at home and abroad. By preying upon the now, not so popular and unseen prejudices that many of us still have within us for whatever reasons, you and those like you, hinder OUR progress in becoming more than what we were and currently are. I take comfort in the fact that you and those who believe as you do are now the minority. I pity you because you are nothing more than what you were trained to be and sadly are unable to see it. The future is that because it is unlike the past and growth through evolving is evident. If you choose to live in the past,PLEASE DO SO IN SILENCE!!! The rest of us have united and voiced our opinion that we need change, and that we are displeased because the rest of the world looks upon us with disdain. This is not because we are better, but because we no longer exemplify our proclamation to the world that we STAND for freedom from tyranny and oppression, and the FACT that all are created equally in the eyes of GOD. We must live up to our creed.

The Dinosaurs are Extinct, and soon your kind will be too, because of antiquated thinking, useless rhetoric, and an antagonistic, irritating presence. If hate is all you have inside, then, I can definitely understand why that seems to be all thAT comes from your very small mind.this is exciting idea

obama is fantastic person in america..god bless u obama

What I see when I turn on the television, is a Man who said he would do certain things. I see he has already done some of those things. I see him working 'out in front' to make other things he said he would do happen. I have not seen a President exposed this much and leading from the front in quite a long time, and, I am over forty years old. Is he Christian or Muslim, what's the point of saying how other people feel about his father being Muslim? How does that affect the way President Obama feels about himself, and why is that any of your business? The United States is what it is because we are all different and our forefathers were originally from somewhere else. You're making suggestions and then building from those suggestions. Anyone lending a kind ear to your writings is dancing around a very deep rabbit hole. Of the many, many ways to convey a message, you chose this way. It is deceitful and dangerous, like the methods of the previous administration. Why don't you say you're prejudiced against Muslims and ignorant of Islam, I believe it is that simple? That bold statement would identify you in our society as someone who does not seek growth and improvement, nor do you want to live up to our Creed that all are created equal, regardless of sex, color, creed, or religion. Are you afraid to be recognized? Do you secretly yearn to return our country back into a self-hating, self-defeatist entity that enslaved part of its citizenry to plantations, etc. Do you miss the 'Good Ole Days' when they knew their place? You are now vulnerable to criticizm because of your beliefs, like you are suggesting of our President? Fortunate for you, it's only a suggestion.

Until proven to be untrustworthy, I will trust and follow my President. I will follow his progress as he sets out to restore our failed economy and all else that was taken away by our last administration.

Here is a quote for thought, it is interesting in itself. See if any of this looks familiar:
"We shall paint the misdeeds of foreign governments in the most garish colors and create such an ill feeling toward them that the peoples would a thousand times rather bear a slavery which guarantees them peace and order than enjoy their much touted freedom. The peoples will tolerate any servitude we may impose on them, if only to avoid a return to the horrors of war and insurrection. Our principles and methods will take on their full force when we present them in sharp contrast to the putrid old social order."

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barrack obama usain very good people.The world ppls like him.He is dark but he have white thing peace and clear future.

Barrack Hussein Obama besides being the most inexperienced politician that America has ever had, is basically just a pimp for the Socialist leaning Democrats who will do nothing more then lower the standards of every aspect of American ideals and policies. But that's ok because the irresponsible and cowardly Mainstream Media(who created him)will protect him at the expense of the country. I guess everyone forgot that he and Michelle belonged to a racist and anti American church for over 20 years, and his lovely militant wife Michelle wrote an anti-American and racist thesis when she was a senior at Princeton University. Obama and his Godless and out of touch Socialist/Democrats cohorts, are now, and will continue to damage the fiber of America. Fortunately, once his term is finished(if he doesn't get impeached first)voters will pay closer attention and do more research before they vote for the "leader" of their country, and will realize that it is not just a popularity contest. Wake up and grow up America! This great country of ours in going down the tubes. You high school and college kids who are eligible to vote, should do your own independent research instead of being swayed and programmed by your biased Liberal teachers and college professors. Think. Voting is just a way too serious privilege.

If you would like to know what is really going on in the world today: www.newsmax.com or www.drudgereport.com

Liberals=Lying Cowards
Even your name is insulting. You would attack a Sitting-President facing one of the most Critical Economic situations the United States has only known once before. Let us not forget how we got into this situation. The most Powerful Country in the World, almost brought to its knees by a conservative leadership that has bankrupted the Economic Leader of the World. Anti-American? Racist? You use phrases and words you could not possibly understand the meaning of. What would you know of racism? Our country is exactly where we have been lead by past leadership. How dare you use the words "Anti-American"! WE AMERICANS, have spoken and said loud and clear, we want change. If you are American as you seem to want to protect her interests, Unite with the majority of America (and it was a Landslide Victory), drop this Liberal-Conservative party affiliation crap, and get with the ONLY party, the Americans. You see, my friend, being affiliated to the wrong group is why we are in this position, now. Allegiance to the American party is where we started and it must be where we end up. In opposing the other side, we lost sight of what we should have been opposing all along. Anyone professing loyalty to anything other than Americanism. The high school and college kids, did their own independent research and that is why they voted the way they did. Wake up!!!!!

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