I agree wholeheartedly with Debbie on this. SPENCER IBRAHIM is a disaster and a failure. AND, if Fred Thompson hired this guy, it tells you where Fred Thompson's mind is at.

BTW, I'm really tired of Thompson's "dance of the seven veils" tease about getting into the race. Either get in or shut up and go away.

Fred Thompson is no conservative. He's also a lazy bastard.

BTW, whilst in the U.S.Senate, Thompson voted against the removal of Clinton from office after he was impeached. In effect, Thompson voted the equivalent of "Not Guilty".

Not for nuthin', but, Fred Thompson reminds me of the "Creature From The Black Lagoon".

"Creature From The Black Lagoon".

Really? Cause I always thought he looked Mr Burns from the Simpsons. He kind of acts like him too, greedy and power hungry.

I forwarded this article (crediting DebbieSchlussel.com) to the ImWithFred website (I'm a member) to see what explanation they could possibly have. Hope it's a good one.

I have not been impressed with Fred Thompson at all but that finishes him for me. He seems all over the place, sleazy, oily, and not sincere. This terrible choice shows that we need to unite around another Republican candidate so that Thompson does not get the nomination.

OK. It's going to have to be Rudy. Picking a jihadisymp like Abraham is an unforgiveable blunder. But, how is Rudy on the border?

Fred Thompson is not to be trusted. He smeared Gandhi in a radio address some months ago (He said Gandhi blamed the Jews for their own persecution in Nazi Germany which was a lie) and now it turns out he lied about lobbying for a pro-abortion group. And what about his 5 years on 'Law and Order'? Conservatives were presented as buffoons. Remember the show on a minutemen-type group? Or the Evangelical father who killed his daughter's teacher because he was teaching her evolution when it turns out the father really killed the teacher because the father thought the teacher had seduced his daughter?

Spence was key behind pushing increased H1-B's. Thompson appears, by his voting record, to be all over replacing American workers with foreign labor as long as its legal. Hiring Spence tells me he hasn't changed his position on the legal dumping of labor into the country and the workplace. The term 'Guest Worker' comes to mind.

In general I know squat about Thompson's positions without doing some unusually deep digging. He has one thing going for him. He's not afraid to rebutt the Democrats and has some skill in doing so. Something our current President sorely lacks. However, that is not enough.

With the exception of 1 or 2 years after 9/11 I consider Bush a pro-corporate democrat. Which explains his affinity for illegal immigration since it is the one issue he can fully agree on with himself. Fred Thompson could be another Bush with better speaking skill. No thanks.

JPM100:
YOU ARE SO RIGHT. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. HE WAS, INDEED, BIG ON EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF H-1B VISAS AND RELAXING THE RESTRICTIONS (SUCH AS THERE REALLY ARE ANY THAT ARE ENFORCED). THANKS FOR REMINDING ME.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Good post Debbie. I'm not a Thompson supporter, but I was shocked at his selection of Abraham.

Good post Debbie. I'm not a Thompson supporter, but I was shocked at his selection of Abraham.

Think Newt! I pray he gets into the race. He's the only one who has given thought to the many problems that the country is now facing. He's bright says smart things and can handle himself against his political enemies and ours. He's the total opposite of Billary. Most of all wouldn't you all like to see him debate her head to head?

Fred has clearly demonstrated that he's no Ronald Wilson Reagan with this move.

thanks for the heads up, debbie. there was something about fred thompson that didn't smell quite RIGHT. i think he's been trying to sound like regan to win us over. sooner or later a rat will start to stink like rotton cheese.

Agreed, something didn't smell quite right about this guy, starting with his membership in the CFR. Afraid Fred would bring us 4 more years just like the previous 8, or worse, if that's possible. Buenos dias, NAU? Fred, don't even bother. Tancredo, Hunter, Paul, Newt, all would be better choices.

I'm actually glad he did this. Shows where he is really coming from. He has been being touted as the saviour of the Republican party but this helps show what a wolf in sheep's clothing he really is. However having said that it would seem the Republican party is fu**ed and split wide open! Unless someone comes out of the blue there is not a candidate out there who will get broad support from conservative voters no matter who gets the nod.

I'm done with my Fred flirtation. I thought he might have appeal in crucial states Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and Florida, but forget that.

Debbie: what are your thoughts on Newt. I find him physically repulsive to watch, but I don't know if his anti-terrorist credentials are real (like Rudy) or fake (like Romney).

Surprised and disappointed. I know very little about Thompson and was waiting to hear him talk about Islam and immigration. This is not good. A terrible choice. It tells me that Thompson doesn't know squat about Islam, has never read a Spencer, Trifloski or Emerson book, and is completely ignorant of Spence's open border positions and despicable sucking up to the jihadists. Really bad.

It looks like the road is getting paved for Giuliani who is no conservative.

Even Hillary is pretending to be tough on terrorism and the fools voters and some political commentators of Fox News are starting to believe her.

What will be the difference between those two at the end of the day? Almost nothing. Two faces of the same coin.

I guess we will never see any time soon a Ronald Reagan era again, or even close to it.

Where have the true conservative leaders gone?

It's depressing. It's demoralizing.

This choice by F. Thompson just leaves me very perplexed. I've listened to Thompson discuss many issues that most politicians aren't in-touch with. I'm wondering if an appeal from his supporters might not make Thompson reconsider this choice. Perhaps he is simply not as aware of S. Abraham's past policies as you are Debbie. I admit it's unlikely that he hasn't run a background check on his own campaign manager, but the devil is in the details.

"NOT AWARE"? UH, THAT'S THE KIND OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT--A GUY WHO DOES ABSOLUTELY NO RESEARCH AND JUST HIRES SOMEONE LIKE THIS? NICE TRY, BUT NO CIGAR. WE ALREADY HAVE A PREZ LIKE THAT. YOU WANT ANOTHER ONE?
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Debbie, FT made some very pro-israeli comments about their recent throw down in Lebanon. He seems Giuliani like in that respect. And it would be nice to have a stripper first lady.

The Republican party is destroying America, and Thompson isn't exactly rebuking the Republican party. It's hopeless, I'm writing in Michael Savage, I guess. It doesn't really matter anymore. I know I'll never vote Dem or Republican again.

Westerners are SO CHICKEN, they can't even bring themselves to call Hamas, Hezbollah, CAIR, or for that matter, La Raza, our enemy! We are so pathetic, it is disgusting. It is infuriating. I hope Peak Oil collapses everything. Milk is suddenly $5.25 a gallon, and corn doubled a few months ago. If we are at Peak Oil, prices should begin rising steadily. I hope this is the beginning of the end, and we can all go to war with our enemy, the muslims, and all our enemies.

What a dumb choice. So long Fred. We hardly knew ye.

Debbie,
I got banned tonight from Free Republic for raising questions about Spencer Abraham and for pushing Guiliani. Supposedly for his liberal abortion views. Which by the way, I'm not in agreement with I've never posted there any kind of pro-abortion remarks. Jim Robinson, the FR webmaster, denounced you as a naysayer and false conservative. I guess this what we get for speaking our minds. With you, I am in lonely company, since some conservatives want to see what they want to see in Fred Thompson.

PUH-LEEZE, THE GUY WHO IS RUNNING APPARENTLY UN-FREE REPUBLIC IS QUESTIONING MY CONSERVATISM?! SO, IT'S OFFICIAL, THEN--UN-FREE REPUBLIC IS AN OFFICIAL ARM OF THE FRED THOMPSON CAMPAIGN, AND ITS TAX-FREE STATUS SHOULD, THEREFORE, BE CHALLENGED TO THE IRS. PLEASE, NORMAN, I HOPE YOU WILL LEAD THE CHARGE. ALSO, PLEASE POST THE URL OF THAT ABSURD STATEMENT BY ROBINSON.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

"Westerners are SO CHICKEN, they can't even bring themselves to call Hamas, Hezbollah, CAIR, or for that matter, La Raza, our enemy! We are so pathetic, it is disgusting."

I agree with you. We have become cowards. Particularly when it comes to self interest and preservation of our nation and what was preserved for us. We can't even define what an American is anymore. It is a proposition nation that has nothing in common and means squat. It is everything defined only by ideas that are vague and not connected . A multicultural Nirvana that is defined by nothing. We are the world and the world will destroy us. America is basically doomed at least America as we have known it.

Debbie, I do not follow your advice like a puppy dog of course.

It is not in a cats nature, particularly a feral one's.

However, you have convinced me to lower my rating for Fred from a 7 to a 3.

We are running out of viable options.

Bonnie Tyler -

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream
of what I need
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life

-

We're down here in Houston, where Thompson came this week. One friend of mine (known by strong ties in our fight to stop the illegal invasion) went to see Thompson before the lunch. He had this to say:

"I was there ...Up close and personal...the "CFR" lady was standing immediately to my left....she was very calm and cordial as she asked the "CFR" question until they grabbed her arm and escorted her out. Her question was appropriate....but Fred has bigger problems with me/us......glad I did not spend my $2300 for lunch today."

Brian

I would advise patience. Remember how many people swooned into the Nazis' arms before the war, remember the America Firsters? Remember all the problems the Duke of Windsor caused?

What we are seeing know is like Mao and his Thousand Flowers. All the people who are our enemies are being bidden to show themselves, and the are. By the time the hand plays out we will have no secret enemies.

Our stupidity and cowardice will be paid for in blood, but I will say that experience will be the only teacher here. I will also say that many who will pay, are ones who believe this twaddle.

I also predict that when this festival of knowledge comes, the country will split, with many leaving just as after the Revolution.

More info about Thompson's past:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/25/AR2007072502329_pf.html

sonomaca said "what are your thoughts on Newt. I find him physically repulsive to watch, but I don't know if his anti-terrorist credentials are real (like Rudy) or fake (like Romney)."

Unbelievable! Perhaps you should just vote for the Breck Girl John Edwards. At least listen to the man before you condemn him at (www.newt.org)
before rushing to judgement. Be forwarned his ideas make good sense and the following speech is just over an hour.

http://www.webcastgroup.com/client/start.asp?wid=0740723073502

I've been waiting for Fred Thompson to finally talk about the issues facing America and where he stands on them. While he may have left a very small footprint in the Senate he talks a good game and I figured he at least deserved a chance. OK, so I was wrong. If this is an example of his leadership and wisdom then count me out. I'll wait for Newt to run. My question is: at what point in time will the people elected to office and/or running for office start to understand how serious the matter of terrorism is? Thay seem to believe that the jihadists really aren't serious about the destruction of Western Civilization. Time for a reality check; the Qur'an offers non-Muslims three choices, conversion, subjugation, or death. That pretty much says it all.

Thank you! I would not have impagined this alliance. Many will vote for him if they are not aware. Is it crazy if I suggest that Thompson feels if he can only win if he gives in to Islamic desires (as the Democrat party does)?
...But what else can we conclude about Thompson? That means "they" (anti-American/terrorists) already have that much power here! But, what about the rest of us?? Please let's find ways to let all know of this and let's find someone who is not compromised! Our safety and our future depend on it!

"Pffffffffft" is the sound of my Thompson balloons loosing air. Sigh.

Tancredo needs to increase his public communication skills, because at this point he is the only candidate running that even remotely understands islam's role in ME politics and historic hegemony.

Comments on Fred T, Free Republic, and the Republicans are all well taken.

Although I am no fan of Lincoln, he *did* lead the charge out of the Whigs to form the Republican party.

And, that's the only way that a third party can work: Get name people who will defect en masse.

Sounds like a plan.

I never saw the fascination about Thompson either. I'm however surprised that those who are aggressive about combating Islamic supremacy aren't gung-ho behind Tancredo, who's the only candidate who not only gets the Jihadi threat (which all GOP candidates currently claim to get, including al Qaeda senator Jihad McCain), but he also advocates a disengagement of troops from Iraq and ending the goal of preventing a civil war - which is NOT in our interests.

As for Giuliani, he does have problems of his own, like wanting to support Fatah against Hamas, instead of letting their civil war fester.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017137.php

Thanks Debbie,

If you were running I would vote for you in a heartbeat! Thanks for all you do in the face of great risk!

My prospects are down to Newt and Duncan Hunter.

Ditto the previous poster. Thanks, Debbie, for all you do!

I also like Duncan Hunter. I was seriously thinking about supporting Fred (maybe even helping out his Texas campaign), but I cannot support him after this.

Thanks again Debbie. I think everyone here should chat this Thompson choice up and spread the word! I had knd of liked him and now feel foolish! Tancredo always sounds sensible - in radio interviews & I checked him out on YouTube (although that site is of course upsetting in many ways). This is so important - I just wonder how we can know who to trust?

Newt Gingrich's name has come here as a possible candidate. I considered him a real conservative, but when I heard that he is a regular at the "Wednesday Meeting" at Grover Norquist's house, well...so much for voting for him.

Unbelievable!

Infiltration all the way, at the highest levels of government, treason, sabotage, espionage, you name it.

Do you think Fred Thompson knows about this guy's activities or is he just negligent and didn't bother to find out?

Fantastic! The self destruction of the right wing at the hands of it's own paranoia and bigotry!

Love It!!!!

Keep up the good work Deb!

Dr. F,
Debbie is not destroying the right wing, they are doing a bang-up job of self destruction.
We demand a candidate that recognizes the gravity of what is facing the civilized world.
We are sick to death of two-faced leaders.

Thanks interestinconundrum!

I didn't know enough about Grover Norquist!
Here's an article about his efforts by Byron York at NRO
:
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york031903.asp

You are welcome TallT.
If Dr F wasn't being sarcastic as I supposed he was, this little hiccup will not stop the patriots of the US. I for one will NEVER vote for the left.
Are you Dr. Fallon?

Dr F is more dangerous then the left. At least with the left you know they are evil and exactly what they will attempt to do but Mr F would have you vote for the same "conservatives" who helped create this mess and thinks we are protecting something by doing so. If we conservatives don't do something other then vote for the lesser of two evils we deserve everything that is happening. Enough!

Newt for President?

This is a guy who doesn't think guns kill people. He thinks video games with virtual guns kill people.

Real jenius, he.

All the top tier candidates being pushed by the Rockefellar Republican RNC are members of the CFR.

The only Republicans that are not members of the elitist CFR are Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul.

Fred Thompson is a member of the CFR so is Newt Gingrich. An activist asked Thompson about his membership in the group, linking it with plans for a North American Union on July 25.After Thompson pretended he knew nothing about the North American Union or SPP, the Activist was forcibly removed from the public meeting at the Hobby Airport by security.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56861

The RNC is being run by Elitist Globalists that want to turn the USA into a European Union like Tri-Lateral confederation. Some would dare call that treason including me.

I will be voting for Duncan hunter or Tom Tancredo, the only true conservatives running for office.

Norman Blitzer said that Gandhi was slandered by those saying that the Jews in Europe in WW2 were responsible for their own plight. I have never seen such a claim by Gandhi; however, I imagine such thoughts must lie close to the surface for believers in the religions that teach the doctrine of karma, namely, Hinduism and Buddhism (and Jainism as well, I suppose).

I'm pretty sure I read that Gandhi did call upon the Jews not to resist the Nazis, that they would appear nobler being slaughtered rather than killing in order to resist. (Sorry, I don't have a citation.) This view is not demanded by Hinduism, and perhaps even by Buddhism (no matter what its Western adherents say). Actually, the most nationalist Hindus are fervent Zionists - even of Rabbi Kahane, z"l (may his memory be for a blessing). www.hinduunity.org has numerous links to nationalist Zionist groups - and articles denouncing Gandhi for what they saw as his betrayal of Bharata (India) to the Muslims.

Still, I never saw that particular claim of Gandhi mentioned by Mr. Blitzer.

Debbie knows full well the story behind al-Arian as one of Bush's "terrorist buddies". She wrote a scathing report on al-Arian and family shortly after 9/11. The Feds fooled around for years before getting tough on al-Arian. Alamoudi was another close friend of Grover Nordquist, wasn't he?

I wouldn't have voted for FT even if he had named Larry Klayman as his campaign manager! I always felt he was a slow moving old bore. And his interview with Chris Wallace in March should have caused alarms to go off in conservative minds-- that is, in the minds of those Americans who are "anti-Invasion fr. Mexico", something that hasn't been mentioned here. There are 30 million-plus illegals, mostly Mexican nationals, living in the U.S. Neither FT nor Romney want to touch them. They are probably on the side of Amnesty. Here's that FT/Chris Wallace interview. See what you think about his responses. Some comments fr. me are in bold and brackets:

WALLACE: You also favor comprehensive immigration reform. I want to...
THOMPSON: No, no, no, no.

WALLACE: Well, let me put up on the screen something that you said last year about illegals, and let's take a look at it. "You're going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship but not make it so easy that it's unfair to the people waiting in line and abiding by the law."

Now, you said, "Look, it's just not realistic that we're going to round up 12 million people and ship them all out of the country."

THOMPSON: "Well, that's true, as a general statement. We woke up one day after years of neglect and apparently discovered that we have somewhere between 12 million and 20 million illegal aliens in this country. So it became an impossible situation to deal with. [Not true! We knew it was happening, screamed blood hell but weren't heard until Rep. Tancredo and the Minutemen Project came along]

I mean, there's really no good solution. So what do you do? You have to start over. Well, I'm concerned about the next 12 million or 20 million. So that's why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary. [Well, Mr. Thompson, WE THE PEOPLE are concerned about THE CURRENT 30 million here who are killing, raping, maiming, molesting and committing fraud on U.S. taxpayers!]

I think most people feel disillusioned after 1986 when we had this deal offered to them before, and now we're insisting that, you know, we solve the security problem first, and then we'll talk about what to do with regard to other things — certainly no amnesty or nothing blanket like that.

But figure out some way to make some differentiation between the kind of people that we have here. [Huh? Amnesty? What's he talking about?]

You know, if you have the right kind of policies, and you're not encouraging people to come here and encouraging them to stay once they're here, they'll go back, many of them, of their own volition, instead of having to, you know, load up moving vans and rounding people up. That's not going to happen." [We'll only encourage them to go back if the jobs dry up. And that will only happen when the Feds crack down on the millions of lawbreaking employers here! Will Thompson do this? Not the way he tells it. No mention of "employers" in his response]

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Is this the man we want in The White House?

Surak

You are right. Gandhi's suggestion that Jews sacrifice themselves to the Nazis very much paralleled his demand that Hindus and Sikhs let Muslims slaughter them for the glory of India and of Islam. Only difference - while he was nowhere in Europe to prevent Jews from defending themselves (to the extent that they ever could), he did everything he could - including his blackmail of Hindus by his threats of fasting unto death - to stop them from retaliating against Muslims, and used the same tactic to blackmail the Indian government into compensating Pakistan for the Muslims who lost their property due to fleeing to Pakistan (although nothing for Hindus & Sikhs who suffered the same coming the other way).

Gandhi was the worst specimen of human debri that ever walked the face of the earth, and Nathuran Godse did humanity a favor by putting him out of our misery.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but we need to promote someone whom is ELECTABLE. Not one Republican candidate, including Newt, is ELECTABLE.

Am I disappointed? Yes.

You sound like a bunch of Michigan Republicans. In the primary, they promoted a white cop career politician to run against LIBERAL Debbie StabMIindaback. Did they really think that ONE PERSON IN DETROIT would vote for that? They passed on a solid conservative black man (Butler) whom I voted for because of his ELECTABILITY.

"I'm done with my Fred flirtation. I thought he might have appeal in crucial states Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado and Florida, but forget that."

Wake up, people. We are still a year away from any vote. Elect someone who is ELECTABLE against Libs. Fred wins the South, and could grab most of those 'crucial' states. Colorado? Probably not.

I ENDORSED AND SUPPORTED KEITH BUTLER.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

Hi Debbie,

How did it happen that he wrote a law school recommendation for you?

Terry

I KNEW HIM AND ASKED--I'D BEEN A VERY ACTIVE VOLUNTEER AND ACTIVIST FOR THE MICHIGAN GOP, WHICH HE HEADED. AT THAT TIME, HE HAD NOT YET MADE HIS PAN-JIHADIST TURN.
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL

In the wake of the GWB amnesty swindel I felt hopelessly lost when thinking about the 2008 election for president. I voted for GWB twice and have lived to regret it. Looking at the GOP line up that announced, I am disgusted at the so called top tier choices. I would prefer Tom Trancredo or even John Paul to any in that bunch corrupt people. Then There was a certain pull toward Fred Thompson, but Thompson seemed to treat the office in a too cavalier manner, more or less as a second thought to his approach to rummaging through life. I'm glad to have read this article because I always thought Spence a snake in the woods

I hope this decision will find a way of fading into a re-appraisal, on both scores, it's a horrible pick!
Great post...

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Following the Thompson/Ghandi rabbit trail-To Surak: It does make sense for a Hindu to believe that the Jewish WW!!plight was their fault and so it also stands to reason that the Hindus deserve a violent death at the hands of the muslims thereby working thru their Karma and "escaping" the cycle of reincarnation. If Islam is correct tho- which is contradictory to Hinduism-there is no reincarnation, only one more nation fallen to an oppressive world view. Obviously, all roads don't lead to heaven.

Man, oh Man! While he didn't have everything going for him, it was pretty clear that Fred Thompson was headed for either the nomination outright, or into a big (and good for the party) fight with Rudy at the convention for who was to get that nomination. Now, with this idiotic pick of a campaign manager, Fred just alienated virtually every conservative out there, and handed the nomination to Rudy.

Would that Duncan Hunter, Tancredo or even Rick Santorum could conceivably get it, but it's not in the cards, folks (at least, not just yet). I'll go with Rudy then, since the alternative is you-know-who, in the general election. So long, Fred; we hardly knew ye.

I don't think I can can I get any more depressed.

I have been anxiously waiting for a sign from Fred Thompson to show us where he stands on the global jihad issue. I was delighted to read his glowing review of "Infidel" by Hirsi Ali at AEI. And now he hires a pro-Islamist. I am so disgusted with the GOP.

Except for Tancredo, all other candidates have shown no indication they are aware of the real threat of global jihad and support continuance of the war in Iraq, and seem to believe the Bush manifesto. The one about Islam being a Religion of Peace.

At least Tancredo sees that stepping back and letting the practicioners of the ROP have a go at each other can actually weaken the global jihadist movement.

I had posts deleted at a few from Fred Thompson websites before IMWITHFRED appeared where I was trying to generate conversation about Thompson's position on jihad and suggesting what it should be. I refused to join IMWITHFRED and pay the membership before knowing where he stood on the jihad issue. I'm glad I held back.

Well, now I know. Thanks Debbie. I had never followed "Spence" before and knew nothing of his pro-Islamist stance.

While the selection does speak to Thompson's leadership qualities in making wise appointments (he'd have thousands to make if elected), I am still willing to forgive and forget if he ditches Spence, but it would have to be soon.

I agree witht he poster above that Newt would kick Billary's butt in a debate. I do enjoy listening to Newt speak. He understand the value of history in analyzing current events and making decisions on the future. But Newt's forte' is American History. His constant analogies to events in American history do not apply the Islamification of the west. He supports the war in Iraq. He has not shown any indication of a real understanding of the threat of global jihad. He is of the Bush mentality "we need to fight them there or they'll follow us home". They're here. In our universities and contaiminating the media and sucessfully practicing Da'wa, as the recent islamic kumbaya festival at Newsweek Online On Faith illustrates. http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/projects/muslimsspeakout/index.html

It will be interesting to see if this appointment effects Thompson's poll numbers. I hope it does BIG time. And if pollsters conclude that a downturn is attributed to the selection of a pro-Islamist, perhaps another candidiate will find reason to take a stronger anti-jihad stance to pick up that slack.

According to "Leave Iraq Now" --
{ He is of the Bush mentality "we need to fight them there or they'll follow us home". They're here. }

Both are true. We have to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Correction: 4 Senators refrained from signing the letter, 3 Respublicans and Senator Byrd

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/96sens.html

In the beginning, I gave money to Fred Thompson, the Reagan-esque character who turned the heads of conservatives, rapped the knuckles of neo-Cons, and kicked the butts of the Far Left. It wasn't easy giving money to him, because his website didn't work, and no one on his staff responded to emails that said, "Hey! I wanna give you money!" Then I heard he asked Spencer Abraham to join his staff. I wrote to him asking why. And again, even as an intrepeid contributor, I got the profound white silence. So now, I'm here to say clearly -- I'm *through* with Fred. He needs to head back to television, where he can play whatever character he'd like to be. The last thing we need in the United States is a president who is unresponsive, unaware and unable to tell friend from foe.

"WE ALREADY HAVE A PREZ LIKE THAT. YOU WANT ANOTHER ONE?
DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL"

GAG ME WITH A PITCHFORK!!!

Bush's Ten Plagues

First Plague: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq.

Second Plague: Propagating the Islam is a great religion of peace and
American troops must die for them doctrine.

Third Plague: Putting Chertoff and Myers and other incompetents in
charge of our security.

Fourth Plague: The Bush/McCain/Graham/Kyl/Kennedy axis of weasels.

Fifth Plague: Stabbing the working men and women of America in the
back.

Sixth Plague: Selling the Unites States of America out to
agri-business, the Chamber of Commerce and other plantation owners.

Seventh Plague: Burdening Americans with massive amounts of imported
crime, drugs and welfare dependents from a foreign country.

Eighth Plague: Trying to legalize and institutionalize serfdom (aka, slavery light) in the
nation of Abraham Lincoln.

Ninth Plague: Aiding, abetting and facilitating the ruling class in
Mexico to ethnically cleanse much of their lower class.

Tenth Plague: Trying to destroy the party and coalition that Ronald
Reagan build and get Hillary elected in 2008.

Ever night when Jeri goes to bed she feels old age creeping up on her!

Dave Fafarman - "He is of the Bush mentality "we need to fight them there or they'll follow us home". They're here."

Dave that canard of Bush's has got to go down in history as one of the most mindless vapid canards of all time. Especially as he has left our borders essentially wide open and his administration has issued visas to the middle east, including a whole lot to Saudi Arabians, like there has been a fire sale going on.

Bring all the troops back from Iraq and just issue strict orders that all troops are to check all their gear and equipment to make sure that no Islamos have stowed away!

Almost screwed again, still ain't been kissed. I thought Fred was a fresh start, maybe I'm just a sucker for a country drawl. No more!

I have been waiting for Fred due to lack of excitement with the other candidates. This decision, however is terrible and cannot be tolerated! Newt must run! Thanks to Debbie for the update!

Michelle Malkin, in discussing Fred's hiring of Spence Abraham on the Laura Ingraham show this morning, managed to plug her own book but failed to cite, or give any due credit to Debbie in her conversation. I think that Michelle should have done so but perhaps I'm wrong. Here's the link.

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/M2Fpe2a/mm-li

Not to discredit Michelle, she did in fact link to Debbie Schlussel dot com in a blogpost last week.

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/26/fred-thompson-and-spencer-abraham-bad-combo/

She should have done the same on the radio IMO.

Fred Thompson and Spencer Abraham served together in the Senate: 1995-2001. While Abraham has been labeled as an open borders icon that recieved an award from LaRaza, Thompson's Americans for Better Immigration (ABI) Reduction Report Card Grades are identical to Abraham's on every subject and include:

Americans for Better Immigration - Reduction Report Card for Thompson and Abraham.

Overall Career Grade = C

Subject & Grade
Reduce Chain Migration = C
Reduce Visa Lottery = C-
Reduce Unnecessary Visas = F
Reduce Fraud: Refugee & Asylum = C-
Reduce Enticement - Illegal Immigration: Amnesties= D
Reduce Illegal Immigration - Anchor Baby Citizenship = No Vote
Reduce Illegal Immigration – Other Awards = A+
Reduce Illegal Immigration – Border Enforcement = A+
Reduce Illegal Immigration – Interior Enforcement =C+

See Fred Thompson's Report Card here:
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=TN&VIPI D=743&retired=1

See Spencer Abraham's Report Card here:
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=MI&VIPI D=401&retired=1

Also, a review of their immigration profiles indicate that Thompson and Abraham amendment worked together on immigration issues. See immigration voting profiles for a complete record of votes. A few examples include:

Voted to strip legal reforms from 1996 bill
Sen. Thompson helped defeat legal immigration reform when he voted for Senator Spencer Abraham's amendment to remove the legal immigration reforms from S.1664, the Immigration Control and Financial Responsibility Act of 1996. This vote effectively killed any chance of Congress considering the Jordan Commission recommendations on easing legal immigration levels.

Voted for a foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud measures in 2000.
Sen. Thompson voted for S.2045, the Abraham foreign worker bill to nearly triple the number of foreign high-tech workers. On the heels of the release of a GAO report finding no proof of a high-tech worker shortage and evidence of abuse in the H-1B program, Sen. Thompson voted for this foreign worker bill that contained no worker protections or anti-fraud measures. The bill passed the Senate 96-1.

As Committee member, produced H-1B doubling bill in 1998
Sen. Thompson was a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee that created the Abraham H-1B doubling bill in 1998, S.1723. He voted with the 12-6 majority to send the bill to the floor of the Senate without safeguards for American workers.

Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification in 1996
Sen. Thompson voted IN FAVOR of the Abraham Amendment to S.1664. He was part of a coalition of pro-business conservatives and liberal civil libertarians who tried to use the amendment to kill the establishment of voluntary pilot programs in high-immigration states. The programs were intended to assist employers in verifying whether people they had just hired had the legal right to work in this country. Such verification is considered by many experts to be an essential tool for withdrawing the job magnet from illegal aliens. The verification system established by S.1664 did not involve an ID card. Rather it provided that when new workers wrote down their Social Security number on an application, employers could phone into a national verification system to help assure that the number was a real number and belonged to the person giving it. In earlier smaller pilot programs, businesses had hailed the verification system for making it easier for them to avoid hiring illegal aliens. Sen. Thompson was unsuccessful in stopping the voluntary verification system. The Senate tabled the by a 54-46 vote.

View Fred Thompson’s Immigration Voting Profile: http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TN&VIPID=743

View Abraham’s Immigration Voting Profile: http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=MI&VIPID=401

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