You nailed it Debbie!
You and Ann Coulter are two incredibly intelligent and strong women who can agree to disagree without offense. You and Ann are also two of the fiercest defenders of America and the American way. I always enjoy reading anything either of you write. (And did I mention that you’re both very easy on the eyes?)

Debbie,

You NAILED it. First a little background. I'm Jewish yet I believe in Jesus. 'Perfected' may be a little strong for what happened but, at least in my view, it moved me in that direction :)

I totally respect your adherence to the Judaism that I was raised in and UTTERLY RESPECT Ann Coulter for being willing to defend following Jesus.

It would be soooo easy to cheapshot her over this and I honestly believe this is the one controversy where liberals think they may be able to end her career.

But I doubt it and besides, there's always other brave women like you to speak the truth to power (LOL!) about what she was communicating.

Mike

It's nice to see that conservative twit, Ann Coulter, dig herself a hole, regardless of what she really meant.

The lesson here for you conservative wenches is not to be in enemy territory. ;P

Blitzer: What are you talking about? Ann's fine. I am not offended. I'm Jewish and I love Christians. Ann and Debbie are two of the most intelligent, important and influential writers on the scene today. Ann is not a twit, but you may be.

I like Ann Coulter, but I am dismayed she let this get out of hand. Her first mistake was doing an interview with pseudo-newsperson-class-clown Danny the Douche.

Being an unbaptized heathen from virtually any faith's perspective, I have no worttwhile relgious opinion, all I can say is I wish she'd not been on the punk's show.

Blitzer..."conservative wenches?" WTF?

Debbie, If Ann were antisemitic, which is preposterous to begin with, why, after being harangued by Mr. Deutsch about what her America would look like Ann said this: "Well, everyone would root for America, the Democratic Party would look like Joe Lieberman, the Republican Party would look like Duncan Hunter �"

Some antisemitism, Huh? sarc Joe Lieberman? Lieberman...Lieberman...yep she's antisemitic alright.

lexi posted:
[Ann is not a twit, but you may be.]

No, I'm not, lexi. But you and Ann are certainly twits. You obviously lack reading comprehension skills if you think Ann is an intelligent writer.

I am a Conservative, observant Jew, and I found Coulter's remarks to be offensive. As I wrote on my blog: My point is rather simple:
"Coulter degraded my religion, and this is offensive to me. Does it offend me that most Christians believe what she said? No, because they don't rub my face in it, like Coulter did.

I am not offended by Coulter because of her Christian beliefs. I am offended because she showed a complete disregard for the feelings of others, those others beings practioners of other religions."

I think we do our cause a disservice by bending over backwards to defend comments such as these.

(For the record, I do not believe Coulter is anti-Semitic).

[DAVE: IN THIS CASE, IT IS NOT AT ALL BENDING OVER BACKWARDS. WATCH THE VIDEO. I JUST POSTED THE LINK TO IT ATOP THIS ENTRY. IT'S COMPLETELY INNOCENT. DS]

Ann Coulter must be doing a bang up good job these days. All the liberals are trying to gang up on her. This is about as clear a sign of effectiveness as one could ask for. Debbie, it is nice to see that you are willing to support her in this. I certainly don't think she intended her remarks to be anti-semitic, although Dave evidently took offense. Sometimes Ann can be pretty rough in what she says; it goes with her style of being deliberately abrasive to the liberals. You, Debbie, seem to see clearly that there is no conflict between Christians and Jews. We worship the same God. Jesus was a Jew, and as already noted, the Hebrew scriptures form what we Christians refer to as the Old Testament. Clearly we are closely related and there is no reason at all for us to be in conflict.

Dave's a sissy.

I saw the video. Her comments are offensive. The fact that the Liberal host may have been baiting her does not exonerate her.

AndyB, great argumentation. You belong to MENSA by any chance?

I am not comfortable with the implication that as a true religious Jew, I should not be offended by Coulter's comments.

Only atheist liberals, who have no religion themselves and think no one else should either, are "offended" when they learn that other people actually believe in their religion.

BUT WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE AND OFFENSE OVER THE TRULY HATEFUL RELIGIOUS EXPRESSIONS OF MUSLIMS?

Muslims take their religioun very seriously -- and unlike Christianity, their religion has no room in it for Jews. None. Muslims want to kill all Jews. Just like Hitler. My heart aches for Israel (where I have many relatives), because eventually the Arabs will have the military power to wipe out that tiny little country. Yes, Israelis have strength and courage beyond their size and numbers. But the end will come, because Muslims will never accept Israel's existence, and they are prepared to sacrifice millions of their own people to "wipe Israel off the map."

The reason we are losing the war on terror and Muslims continue to infiltrate and take over our societies is because libs like Deutch do not understand that some people do, in fact, take their relgion seriously. Muslims MEAN IT when they say that their religion compels them to kill, convert, or enslave all non-Muslims.

But liberal cowards like Deutch would rather give Coulter a hard time because she is a believing Christian. What a bastard.

As a (non-religious) Jew, I am deeply ashamed, indeed infuriated, by the ignorance and ingratitude of lefty Jews, who show so little respect for the Christians in this country who have given us the best home we ever had -- in the grand ol' USA!

For a people whose very existence is ever at the mercy of the larger and more powerful peoples around us, Jews should be thankful for the wonderful Christian community in this country.

When Mohammed's sharia police come knocking on my door, I would much rather have Ann Coulter by my side (carrying a Glock) than Donny Deutch. All that time spent in the gym honing his physique won't do Donny much good if he isn't prepared to kick ass. He isn't. He'd rather whine that a Christian girl believes in her religion. What a pussy.

How do you argue with a sissy who's offended by what a Christian believes? There's a religion already out there that practices victimology, so what's to argue? Your offended. She a rich, popular, beautiful woman who can write.

She doesn't believe Israel should be wiped of the map or that Zionism equals racism or even that you should burn in hell for eternity. So what's your argument? That your offended and Ann Coulter offended you? That, my friend, makes you a sissy.

Ok, you want to argue. Let's argue. You wrote, "I am not comfortable with the implication that as a true religious Jew, I should not be offended by Coulter's comments." Are you then, "comfortable with the implication that as a true religious Jew," that you should "be offended by Coulter's comments?" Because I know a lot of people who have more important things to ponder than their depth of offended-ness.

Oh, and the MENSA comment. I was offended. Not.

AndyB,

The name-calling is rather lame. Try stick to intelligent discussion if you can.

Read my comments again. I am not accusing Coulter of anti-Semitism. I do not feel threatened by Christian belief, and fully respect religious Christians. I am saying her remarks on television offended me. That is my right, just as it is Coulter's right to make the remarks. Deal with it.

For the record, I am a tireless fighter for Israel and against Islamic fundamentalism, as anyone who reads my blog will attest. I am no bleeding heart liberal. And I left a cushy life in Australia to live in Israel, so your calling me a sissy definitely makes me chuckle.

Tolerance vs. Acceptance. If we are truly honest with ourselves, we do not Accept anyone else's religion but our own. Anyone practicing another faith blasphemes our own. All America asks is that we Tolerate eachother. Coulter's was a message of non-acceptance, not intolerance. That's what being a principled person is all about. She was being her honest self, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Debbie, as a fellow politically conservative Jew, I do not see this working out well for Jews in America if the ADL and other groups go after Coulter. A certain Jewish politically conservative radio host (I won't name but you can probaly guess) is already going after her. Not only is this substantively wrong, but warriors against Islamofascism like her are the best friends the Jews of the world have.

[MELCHLOBOO: AMEN! DS]

God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.
- Voltaire

Dave, I admire you for your tireless fight for Israel and against Islamic fundamentalism. I also believe in being honest with people. Brutally honest. So to call you a sissy isn't honest enough. What I meant to say was I can't believe that a warrior such as yourself, and I mean that literally, who fervently fights for Israel and faces down Islamic Nazi could possibly be offended by a woman such as Ann Coulter. Your sincere sensitivities at what a woman says on television should give you pause and maybe a little introspection is due. Maybe it isn't what she said that offended you. Maybe it's what you heard that you didn't like. Nothing Ann said was untrue. Maybe thats what's so offensive. I don't know. Again, thank you for fighting a good fight.

Leftists hate Jews. Why so many Jews are leftist is the larger question.

Perhaps it's like this:
Jesse Jackson does not hate blacks. Jesse Jackson and 'the other Al' simply do what they do to uplift and enrich themselves. Inner city blacks lose because of Jesse and 'Al'. Both sides are happy.

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I don't know. I read part of one of her books and the part that I read was good but I have to say this. I think the way she dresses is very over the top. I don't know if that is so religious. It's more important to walk the walk rather then talk the talk. She has never been married but does she promote family values. There are other conservative women who aren't married but seem to promote family life more. Laura Ingraham promotes this more then she does. I also don't like this Republican good Democrat bad type of atitude. Some people for various aren't Republicans for various reasons including some bad things they saw among Republicans. I don't if the sum of Ann is so great for the conservaitve movement anyway regardless of this issue.

Dave, choose your battles. Any 'real' Jew should be offended by leftists. In EUnuchstan, Europe, there are no conservatives. The continent has divested itself from such low life scum (sarcasm intended).

That a contrary political entity exists in the US is odd. Leftists hate Jews. Leftists are the majority in EUnuchstan. Leftists stifle debate the way Hitler stifled Jews. (no sarcasm in any way).

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I rarely agree with you, but on this, you are one of the few who is exactly right. Thank you for being intellectually honest about her, and one of the few who seems to be approaching her comments rationally!

As a jew myself, I am not offended by Ann Coulter's comments nor do I commend it. I'm not such a big fan of her and I tend to disagree with many of her positions plus I don't think she is one of the most brilliant women let alone commentators that the conservative movement has ever produced. I believe most conservatives are more sensible than her but thats a side issue. Her statements against the jews were defamatory but she had a history for making such derogatory remarks in the past so it isn't a novelty. What am I suppose do to about it? Cry and moan to Abe Foxman? We can see alot of good he has done for the jews exspecially his deafening silence when the Iranian Hitler defiled Columbia U. with his presence coupled with his threat to incinerate Israel.

I just thought Ann Coulter was being childish and ridiculous for making her comments but thats her freedom of speech. I don't pay much attention to what she has to say anyways. I've heard far worse inflammatory rhetoric coming from the far left and the radical islamists. Calling for the conversion of jews, as provocative as it may be, seems innocuous compared to calling for the jews to have their throats slit and their corpses tossed into the Mediterranean Sea. Then again, I exspect no less from these islamic subhumans anymore than I exspect common decency from the loud mouthed infantile left.

As for dear Ann, if the media finds her statements repulsive, instead of bitching about it, they should'nt give her publicity. The woman has been attacked enough( and I do feel bad for her) so give her a freakin' break already! Put a quit to your bloody harping and let her jest as much as she desires!

I have the greatest respect for Jewish culture and Judaism, from what I've learned about Judaism on this blog and from a class I took this summer on the Old Testament.

Ann Coulter's comments were not anti-Semitic. The word that many Jews who have converted to Catholicism, according to Roy Schoeman, but still maintain their identity as Jews is "fulfilled." They don't like the term "converted" because it implies to them they have somehow left their Jewish identity. Christ and the 12 apostles were Jews, so one can say Christianity is a Jewish religion adopted by the Roman Empire.

The Left, like Muslims, lacks such tolerance. It is stunning watching Leftists, who worship Ahmadinejad, love Palestinians, and hate Israel, claim that Ann Coulter is an anti-Semite.

One could "take offense" dozens of times throughout the day but does one? I'm sick of Jews getting offended every time you turn around but they're not offended by Ahmadinejhad's rantings, creeping sharia law in this country and the antiSemitism of Hollywood. Take a chill pill. Ann is our friend.

Bravo Debbie!

to Blitzer--once again you display your ignorance for us all to behold. It never ceases to amaze me when you do! Your criticizing Coulter's intelligence is the same as a moron's criticizing of a masterpiece. Her writing is as spot on as can be found anywhere today. We're so blessed to have a moron like you troll on this blog--what keeps you here? Please tell us we can get wisdom of Solomon.

to Dave--grow some skin. I am a Christian and I love the Jewish people--even thin skinned ones like yourself. One thing I love about Debbie is that she is unabashedly Jewish--and it is a beautiful thing. If truly religious Christians and Jews express their true beliefs--there is going to be a difference in understanding--but that does not have to mean one must be "offended" or THAT ONE MUST HIDE WHAT HE OR SHE TRULY BELIEVES! Are you that insecure?

As Debbie writes:

"Why should that offend me? I've had brunch with Ann, and we've had many conversations through e-mail, etc. During all of that, she's never once told me she's offended that I believe that I am part of the Chosen People..... Does that make me a religious bigot? Nope. It just means I actually believe in my religion. Just like Ann does. Nothing more. Nothing less."

I have seen that every time that idiots like those at Media Matters come after Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh -- they expose themselves for muck-raking rabble-rousers they are and Coulter and Rushbo grow even faster in popularity. This is seen right now with the case of the phony soldiers whom Rush called phony soldiers-Media Matters does not get it.

G-d bless you DS!!

Great read Debbie. Ann was expressing the view of most evangelical Christians. We feel as did the Apostle Paul that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ,and the fulfillment of all the promises given to Israel by God. I do no know personally a genuine Christian who doesn't love the Jewish people and who earnestly cares about their spiritual well being.
I know many Jews resent Christians wanting them to come to know Jesus as the Messiah, but they should just remember we do so because we love you, not because we are trying to gain converts.
The MSM and the nutroots will make a big to do about this. Sad to say many conservatives are going off as much as the nutroots.
Anchoress is a perfect example. Her blog today was so off the wall it wasn't funny.
As a conservative I for one thank you for standing in the gap for Ann.

Debbie, I was wondering how quickly you'd respond to this one. I was disappointed (but not surprised) at your response.

She may not be as anti-Jewish as Hitler or the President of Iran in that she doesn't wish us dead just for being born; but she is no different than the intolerant people who have tried to forcably convert us through the ages. If America could legally repeat the Spanish Inquisition would Ann say it is "intolerant" and "un-American" or would she say "hip hip hooray"? Yes she was "baited" by Deutch but her answer was telling. When Borat "baited" the rednecks in the Arizona bar about "throwing the Jews down the well" and they cheered, should we not be offended by them too? They were so stupid they probably didn't realize the "baiter" was Jewish

While I do not understand Jewish liberals when it comes to how they deal with Muslim fundamentalists, etc. I also do not understand why Jewish conservatives are essentially "going to bed" so to speak with the Christian Far Right. The only reason they support Israel so much is that they need a strong Jewish Israel to fulfill their beliefts regarding the prophesies about the Rapture, "Second Coming", etc. They are almost as much a "friend" as Osama, etc. is and certainly hate us deep inside as much as they did when Jerry Falwell ranted on 20+ years ago. Get a clue people (on both sides of the aisle)!

I wonder if Donnie D would have acted so offended if Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR had told him that this country would be better off if everyone was a muslim. Somehow, I do not think that would have upset him.

*I also do not understand why Jewish conservatives are essentially "going to bed" so to speak with the Christian Far Right.*

*she is no different than the intolerant people who have tried to forcably convert us through the ages.*

I think you have just answered your own question. Ann Coulter is NOT forcibly trying to convert you. Muslims are. Now do you understand why, despite doctrinal differences, there is an alliance between conservative Catholics, Evangelicals, and Jews?

"They are almost as much a "friend" as Osama, etc. is and certainly hate us deep inside as much as they did when Jerry Falwell ranted on 20+ years ago."

hairymon,

I do not hate you. But, as a Christian, I am offended that you would compare me to OBL and the jihadists. Seems like your own bigotry is showing.

Are you sure Ann wasn't actually talking about the Mormans?

I am neither "offended" by someone believing that they are the "Chosen People," or by another believing that they have been "perfected."
I find it "offensive," that a fairly large percentage of homosexuals, Socialists, and other Communists believe that the West would be better off if the very culture which has TOLERATED their rants-namely the Judeo-Christian ethos-and which has also allowed for the development of an open society-was silenced and erradicated from the Earth.
Jesus was a Jew. John the Baptist was a Jew. Remember where you come from, you'll know where you're going. I left a prayer at the wall in Jerusalem. It said two things; keep my family safe, and keep 'God's' people safe. ...and yes, I followed the traditions at the wall. Point? Remember the struggle, don't forget the strife.
The only thing I wish Ann would do is eat more cheeseburgers.

Debbie, I think the real outrage is why Jews like Deutch keep putting on the Coulters and Malkins and not you. You are 10 times better looking and should be on TV more. I think you cause a lot of nail biting among the left wing TV Jews.

It doesn't surprise me that you are defending Coulter. I have seen outstanding ignorance by both of you. You, Debbie, showed your ignorance when it comes to atheists, and Coulter proved she was a moron when she started spewing her ignorance when it comes to evolution.
What would you be saying if this wasn't Coulter, but a Muslim cleric stating that all Christians and Jews should become Muslims????

Ah, yes - now we get to hear from the Evangelical Atheist who eats bacon. Passion about nothing - how sophisticated you are.

Ann is not antisemitic but she is either ignorant or does not understand our graceful God's Law that includes a remedy for sin. Therefore Jews do not need Jesus.

That remedy is sincere repentance. It is vividly illustrated in Ezekiel Chapter 18 which concludes: "It is not My desire that anyone should die -- declares the Lord God. Repent and live."

It is also illustrated in Psalm 130 which concludes: "God will redeem Israel from all its sins."

Debbie, you've hit this one out of the park you are so right.

MQ

BB,

Are you familiar with the story 'The Emperor's New Clothes'? You're like the idiots in the story who appease the King by not telling him that his new clothes are in fact no clothes at all. It takes a boy to point out this fact before everyone else admits it.

What Coultergeist said was stupid, and your defense of her only shows that you're stupid as well. BB must stand for 'Baby Brains'.

The full video of Coultergeist on Big Idea is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtL80HqjEk

It's important to note that her dream country would be like the Republican National Convention in New York where everyone was a Christian. Gee, I wonder if any conservative Jew at that convention will speak up against Coultergeist?

CarpeDiem, yet another post of yours that is no more insightful than a two year old's finger painting.

It's late and I'm getting lazy so I'll just copy what I posted on Roger Simon's blog:

OK, I'm Jewish and not exactly thrilled with Coulter's remarks. But let's get a little perspective. Is she as "antisemitic" as:

Pat Buchanan who has been taking nasty shots at Jews for most of his useless life?

Louis Farrakhan who said Jews should be "punished with death"?

Jimmy Carter who made sarcastic, derisive references to Jews as the "Chosen People"?

No, no, and no. Not even close.

AndyB,

I think I've explained why I found her comment offensive. I am very secure in my Judaism, and do not feel threatened by Ann Coulter. We both know where the real threat is coming from. I just think that Ann Coulter's comments - publicly denigrating my religion - were offensive. And she is providing more fodder for those like Media Matters.

This is just my opinion. Obviously, many fellow Orthodox Jews like Debbie were not offended. That's fine. I've expressed my opinion, and do not think that this needs to be the issue of the year. We need to focus on the common enemy and work together.

Hi all,

This is my first comment on this blog while I've been reading a lot of it the past month.

First of all I was brought up with strong Christian feelings and I think one of the few non priest christians who read the entire bible in my country.

As Mensa was mentionend... my Iq is equal or above 156 as the test didn't go any higher.
For those who don't know what IQ means:
Intelligence Quotient but it actually does mean your ability to think, it does not mean you are smart, wize or actually posses commen sence. So IQ is overrated, not worth further mentioning.

to go back to the topic:

As a previous christian, and currently not affiliated to any belief I've attempted to talk to other religion followers.

My result: (my appologies for not naming the beliefs with there correct name or any spelling mistakes, as I'm still lacking full knowledge of the english language)
Jews: Intresting, openminded and willing to discuss and even take there religion to the test of discussion.
Christians: Sometimes don't know the basis of there own belief but are in general followers of the idea behind it and try to be as tollerant as possible.
Hindu: a way of life that could perhaps work in life style with some Christians there many "gods" made me draw a line as if Christian profets and saits could partially also be seen as "gods" for them as I did in the past direct some of my prayers towards them...
Haré Crishnas(or something) are a lot similar to hindu in basis of attitude towards a lot of life issues, though there clothing and hair code should better be seen by them as something of the past. But that's just my humble oppinion.
Moslims: I got beaten insluted and spit in my face for daring to talk about there belief and even attempting to question it. So all I know are there actions/words and the 3 online translations I found of the Quran.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/

I'm willing to talk openly to any and every body about religion. And my own belief that has become one without name as my search contious to what is True and Not for me.(wasn't able to talk to mormons and others as I didn't find them yet in my country)

But as I do support the idea of freedom of speech as most important to gather more knowledge, ideas and views. I find the trend that has been set as a wall. Tempering my search for knowledge. I am glad people as Debby exist as well as those responding. There is much to be learned from there oppinions. Therefor Islam has become in some ways my personal enemy as well as all that support the sencureship they are seeking. I don't know if any of you ever has read "Kissing Hank's Ass". but here is the link:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/hank
This does show the danger of not questioning or close mindedness. For those who would fall for such a trap, know that I would pitty you and hope you'll someday aquire the insight that it's a trap.

As I'm probably currently lacking enough info to speak up in a correct manner of Moslims still so far my temporary conclusion. It's a trap that promotes discrimination and violence. I could be mistaken and here: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3144
There are people that talk from many sides.
From Christian, rightviewed, moslim, etc... point of views. Is he now an ally of Debby and/or Ann?
I do not know but he seems to some extent to be an ally of Truth.

Good job Debby!
I hope you'll never stop.
(You and others that also talk openly, honestly about these things where the media seems to be failing in)

So far my rambling, sorry for perhaps going to wide on this issue but this is like all things I write, my personal view on things and I hope none who is open minded would take offence to this.

Hi all,

This is my first comment on this blog while I've been reading a lot of it the past month.

First of all I was brought up with strong Christian feelings and I think one of the few non priest christians who read the entire bible in my country.

As Mensa was mentionend... my Iq is equal or above 156 as the test didn't go any higher.
For those who don't know what IQ means:
Intelligence Quotient but it actually does mean your ability to think, it does not mean you are smart, wize or actually posses commen sence. So IQ is overrated, not worth further mentioning.

to go back to the topic:

As a previous christian, and currently not affiliated to any belief I've attempted to talk to other religion followers.

My result: (my appologies for not naming the beliefs with there correct name or any spelling mistakes, as I'm still lacking full knowledge of the english language)
Jews: Intresting, openminded and willing to discuss and even take there religion to the test of discussion.
Christians: Sometimes don't know the basis of there own belief but are in general followers of the idea behind it and try to be as tollerant as possible.
Hindu: a way of life that could perhaps work in life style with some Christians there many "gods" made me draw a line as if Christian profets and saits could partially also be seen as "gods" for them as I did in the past direct some of my prayers towards them...
Haré ƒrishnas(or something) are a lot similar to hindu in basis of attitude towards a lot of life issues, though there clothing and hair code should better be seen by them as something of the past. But that's just my humble oppinion.
Moslims: I got beaten insluted and spit in my face for daring to talk about there belief and even attempting to question it. So all I know are there actions/words and the 3 online translations I found of the Quran.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/

I'm willing to talk openly to any and every body about religion. And my own belief that has become one without name as my search contious to what is True and Not for me.(wasn't able to talk to mormons and others as I didn't find them yet in my country)

But as I do support the idea of freedom of speech as most important to gather more knowledge, ideas and views. I find the trend that has been set as a wall. Tempering my search for knowledge. I am glad people as Debby exist as well as those responding. There is much to be learned from there oppinions. Therefor Islam has become in some ways my personal enemy as well as all that support the sencureship they are seeking. I don't know if any of you ever has read "Kissing Hank's Ass". but here is the link:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/hank
This does show the danger of not questioning or close mindedness. For those who would fall for such a trap, know that I would pitty you and hope you'll someday aquire the insight that it's a trap.

As I'm probably currently lacking enough info to speak up in a correct manner of Moslims still so far my temporary conclusion. It's a trap that promotes discrimination and violence. I could be mistaken and here: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3144
There are people that talk from many sides.
From Christian, rightviewed, moslim, etc... point of views. Is he now an ally of Debby and/or Ann?
I do not know but he seems to some extent to be an ally of Truth.

Good job Debby!
I hope you'll never stop.
(You and others that also talk openly, honestly about these things where the media seems to be failing in)

So far my rambling, sorry for perhaps going to wide on this issue but this is like all things I write, my personal view on things and I hope none who is open minded would take offence to this.

"You know you're over the target when you start taking flak."

Michael Savage actually jumped on this antisemitic bandwagon last night (10/11). I know he doesn't like her, and that's fine. He just kept going on and on about how she was antisemitic and that her books were going to be number one on the best seller lists in the Middle East. I know Dr. Savage engages in a fair amount of sarcasm from time to time. But, I just kept looking at the radio in disbelief.

"You know you're over the target when you start taking flak."

To the person who wondered what that means: It's a military quip regarding air corps in combat. When you're within range of their guns, your target is probably very near.

WRT Ann Coulter, she takes flak constantly, because the targets are constantly in her cross-hairs (sorry, bad pun).

Coulter is not an anti-semite. Let me put it this way, I think almost everyone is prejudiced to a degree in certain instances at least.
I think for one to be an anti-semite they have to be consistent in their overt criticism of Jews, or just admit they don't like Jews.
Coulter is just an imbecile. Imbeciles will make stupid comments and then pretend they can back them up.

Is it just me or does Ann Coulter have an adam's apple and unusually large hands for a woman?

To my Jewish brothers and sisters who are experiencing Coulterphobia: Big hands and adams apple aside, worrying about Ann Coulter is a waste of time. You may want to direct your concern toward those patronizing friends of Palestine, the Clintons. After all, it was Ms Rodham that unashamedly sucked face with Suha Arafat, and Bill could hardly get enough of her disgusting terrorist husband, "the Chairman". I think a Clinton presidency is a far more serious threat to Jews, Christians, Israel and America than Ann (somebody give her a cheeseburger-lol) Coulter.

To Mr. "156 IQ" who posted above. "Brevity is the sould of wit".

"soul of wit"

Debbie's last paragraph explains the whole problem. Ann was right, she simply chose the wrong word. It's way too easy for someone to take "I'm perfect, you're not" as offensive. And that's the basic idea of what she said in many peoples' minds, even though it's not what she was trying to say. When she went on trying to explain it, Douche had stopped hearing every word she said except "perfected".

Blitzer--sorry for being so rough on you. You do amaze me though!

Debbie--see what you started here!! Good going. It's great that you can get a "room" full of thinkers together here to critique and opine on this. I think it is a good cross section and it is revealing of where your readers are coming from.

Shots on Coulter's appearance reveal insecurities about those offering them--probably from a closet TG. Coulter is blond, thin, attractive and intellectually, she can kick the a__ of any liberal she deals with. Before this episode I never even knew she had a faith--I respect her more for stating it publicly.

Coulter DARES to say things without fear--that is what I love about her--that is what I love about Debbie. She is wise enough to realize that expressing ones true opinions (that many PCers and "sensitives" will gag on) is more important than stifling oneself. She knows that persons interested in seeking truth don't disqualify the speaker for such reasons. I also beleive that it takes much more courage to state what one truly believes and let the chips falls where they may---than to hide ones thoughts for fear of the PC police such as Media Matters!

Dave, Let me explain why this shouldn't offend you and why we should defend Ann Coulter against the incessant attempts by the left to shut down anybody who don't agree with them (conservatives).

As you know, this episode of faux outrage or genuine outrage, is being pushed by Media Matters. The same smear outfit that targeted Bill Oreilly and Rush Limbaugh. And the same smear outfit that's targeting Ann Coulter. The same smear organization who tried to label Bill Oreilly a racist and Rush Limbaugh anti-military. In both cases this campaign was deliberately contrived with out of context quotes from both men specifically intended to marginalize them and silence their voices. We call that a form of censorship.

Media Matters is a dishonest organization whose main mission is to be a watchdog group for Hillary Clinton and to smear those with whom she and they disagree. And the only way they will be successful is if people such as yourself can be persuaded to react to these smears.

If this attempt by Media Matters isn't curtailed or stopped more people unwillingly will be mislead into believing their propaganda and that's bad for conservatives and for our cause.

If they can raise the ire of enough people by misleading them into believing Oreilly is a racist and Limbaugh is anti-military they can seriously effect the debate on a number of important issues. Making their point of view the only point of view acceptable. That's called fascism.

What should be the reaction to this made up controversy is to get to the real truth about what Ann meant and disseminate that truth. Clearly she didn't mean anything offensive and she stated such in the interview in question.

If you think Media Matters and liberals in general will stop at trying to censor Ann Coulter, Bill Oreilly, and Rush Limbaugh, you are sadly mistaken. If and when Judaism clashes with their agenda, whatever agenda that may be, than Judaism and it's leadership will be the next target they zero in on.

So if we let this smear organization set the boundaries of what's offensive and what isn't the next target could very well be you.

When the liberals came for the Bill Oreilly,
I remained silent;
I was not a big fan of Oreilly.

When they smeared and tried to silence Rush Limbaugh ,
I remained silent;
I was not a Ditto Head.

When they came for Ann Coulter,
I did not speak out;
I was often offended by Ann Coulter.

When they came for the Christians,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Christian.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

I have always loved Ann Coulter for her snarky wit, and I don't think she is antisemitic, not by a long shot. I also like Christians who are not afraid to speak truthfully about what they believe and I'm going to bet that most Christians, if they are honest, agree with Ann.

I do think that she lacks wisdom and discernment sometimes, though. I have thoughts about my Christian friends' beliefs, but I wouldn't say them on national television, just out of respect. She does not consider the longterm ramifications of some of her remarks. Is she an asset to us in this upcoming election, or a liability?

Unfortunately, Ann's comment is going to play into old fears and paranoias (justified, by the way) and because of it, we may even lose voters who were on the fence. We who love Ann and have followed her for years see her comment in the context of her personality and her track record, but there are others who will take it at face value -- an intolerant religious comment by a Christian conservative Republican. How does that help us in our battle for the soul of America? It doesn't.

I just wish that Ann would be more responsible, that's all. It isn't even that WHAT she said was so bad (it wasn't), but rather the flippant, silly way it was cast out there. Religious topics are a minefield, and they should be treated with respect, sensitivity, and care.

There is a great discussion going on over at Little Green Footballs, for anyone who cares to read hundreds of comments. It started on the Ron Paul thread, and then LGF's owner started a second thread, dedicated to the subject. There are many thoughtful comments there about relations between Christians and Jews, what helps, what hurts, and how much we need each other at this time.

THANK YOU, DEBBIE!

While I didn't need your column to understand what Ann said, I think you articulated this manufactured news story very well. As such, it is an excellent reference for me when people ask me "What do you think about Ann Coulter's remarks about Jews?"

Ann stated a very common Christian belief. Unfortunately, she may have undone her thesis that this is a "Christian nation". After all, if Christians were practicing their religion, they'd know and understand what Ann meant and this brew-ha-ha wouldn't be such a big story. This is a different subject so I don't want to digress too much.

Again, thank you for making a clear statement in defense of Ann. It's kind of funny to see the LIB media reacting so predictably. She plays them like a fiddle.

According to Jewish ethical guidelies, Jews must give Coulter a chance to respond before they pass judgment.

Influential Jews are already reacting in knee-jerk fashion and are rudely "educating" Christians on their own religion. This is unfounded and unwise.

Rabbi Schmuley Boteach(of TV's Shalom in the Home and occasional Jerusalem Post contributor) makes this mistake in his reaction to Coulter:
http://www.shmuley.com/articles.php?id=548

Michael (Wiener) Savage also lectured Christians on their faith last night on his radio show, just hours after Coulter's statement hit the press.

Give her a chance to respond! The failure to give her an opportunity to explain herself was particularly disappointing by Rabbi Boteach. As a student of Torah and Talmud, he should know that Jewish ethics ALWAYS require affording a transgressor an opportunity to explain himself (and if necessary make ammends) before passing judgment.

I am disappointed that two people for whom I have considerable intellectual respect couldn't even "sleep on it" for one night before letting their emotions get the best of them. They immediately hit the airwaves/blogosphere with replies that are actually more condescending and patronizing than Coulter's original comment. Savage and Schmuley went so far as to correct/educate Christians on what the Christians themselves believe. I wouldn't call that intolerance, but certainly rude.

If influential Jews seek to issue statements and comments on what she said, there are some very obvious and polite ways of doing so. Debbie's original post was one. The other is to acknowledge there are several ways of interpreting her comments, and that one sincerely hopes she meant nothing along the lines of forced conversions or approving of anti-semitism. Listen to what she then has to say.

If anyone is curious, the foundation for allowing someone to explain themselves can be found in last week's (Jews follow a schedule for which portion of the Old Testiment is read each week) portion, the story of Adam and Eve and Cane and Abel. After eating the forbidden fruit and slaying of a brother, the aforementioned figures are all given a chance to admit and explain themselves before G-d prior to his handing down punishment. Jews understand this to be an example to us to listen and consider before passing judgment. There are of course many other examples of this throughout the Old Testament.

I am disappointed in both Ann and Debbie. If David Duke would of said the exact same words Debbie would of smeared it for a mile. But I guess Debbie has never had brunch with David. Oh yeah, funny that no one has mentioned Ann has a new book out!

Deb, you say that you're not bothered by Coulter's comments, however, I'm sure if the comments were made by some high-profile leftist, you would be all over them like a fly on s--t!
Put your "friendship" aside and tell us what you really think. She's a pantload that doesn't deserve any ink!

And so it begins. Jews that reacted in a knee-jerk fashion are already drawing retaliation:
http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/g/c0dbe939-60a0-4658-a687-85f92b7f904b

To Robert S. Trojan: I don't believe that is true. I don't recall DS commenting on the Pope's reinstitution of the (optional) prayer for the conversion of the Jews. On that subject, it is not the prayer that is inherently offensive to Jews, rather the prospct that of the millions of Catholics in the world, there are bound to be some who will misinterpret it's meaning and do ill to us. While the same could be true of Coulter's words (i.e. even if well intended could inspire anti-semitism), frankly she doesn't quite have the same following as the Pope.

It should be obvious that the reason Debbie would not give leftists, Muslims, or other Jew haters a pass if they made a similar remark is because they have a track record of Jew hating; Ann does not. Ann has a track record of supporting Israel and a respect for religious Jews.

Context is everything.

I still don't think she should have made the remarks she did, but people should let her respond and take context into account.

This is something the leftys are going to jump on. It reminds me of Rush's "phoney soldiers" comment. Dems and leftys are attacking conservative writers and talkradio. That's why I was shocked at Michael Savage's hysteria. That really disappointed me.

Michael "the Savage" Wiener isn't worth any credence. This is a man who shouted down a veteran, just days after 9/11, for daring to suggest that soldiers defend the Constitution's right to disagree with the government.

I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't heard it myself. I turned off the radio and will never listen to him again. How can anyone be so dense as not to see such blatant self-contradiction?

Oh, wait...

Andy B.- good post.

This writer makes some good points, especially about remembering who "wants to blow us up". (see end)

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/the_perfected_jew.html

When someone, whether Ann Coulter or Jimmy Carter, says something that offends people, it is fair to criticize them for being offensive. What is dangerous is to demonize or censor that person because they are offensive. This is the goal of the PC police which leads to mindless group-think.

Have we become so insecure that we cannot allow our ears to hear words that offend us?

Coulter's statement was provocative. Provocative statements are important because they make us re-examine our own beliefs and thoughts on the issue.

To Christians worried about the impact of these words, I would remind you that Jesus also said words that the Jews of his time found offensive and that God can use anything to bring good results.

Regarding the American Thinker article linked above, I agree with this statement by the author.

"Personally I'm glad Coulter put her religious beliefs out in the open; not the mealy mouthed, morally equivalent "All religions are good" which is meaningless. Freedom of speech and all that you know."

We do not have to always agree with each other, but we should be able to speak our true beliefs to one another.

I went and read the Media Matters article referred to here, and I see no smearing or twisting (as claimed). All I see is quoting.

What am I missing? Why is quoting so bad?

Ann Coulter is a liberal! Laura Bush was criticized for Goofing on Monkeyboy and the Coalition for Tradtional Values railed on her

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/coalition_letter2.pdf

Well guess what? Ann speaking up, claiming to be a Christian, yet being a lawyer and a vocal supprter of the Republican party is against everything the "Christians" value most. Ann is to:

Clean the house
Mop the floor
Feed the child(ren)
Feed her husband
Make her husband's breakfast, lunch and dinner
Give him sex when he wants to
Wash her husband's clothe
Scrub the toilets

And other womanly duties that is required of the right. If Ann calls me an asshole, that just means that she's supportive of a woman's right to self-sufficency and it was the liberals not conservatives who stood up to the "man".

Ann is a liberal or better yet, a false conservative.

Bacon Eating Atheist Jew good quote and great name too. I too am an athiest and I think God is not around and Jesus was a great rabbi. P.S., I love bacon too but I will not disrespect a Jewish family by giving them bacon, because, the Jews in Dauchau teated my people a lot better than the FUCKING CHRISTIANS IN THE UNITED STATES WHO PUT MY PEOPLE IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS TOO! ANN'S PEOPLE!!! Sorry for spewing. I love the Jews.

WELL, WE’VE come a long way from that time when the Apostle Paul referred to some of the troubles he was encountering when preaching the Gospel as the “conspiracies of the Jews”.

Down through the ages, Christians and Jews have been less than brotherly with each other and each has abused power when they had it.

BUT IF THE Apostle Paul were to re-enter the “modern scene” he would immediately coin a new, and more relevant phrase, which would be on Christian lips everywhere. The re-phenomenon and roadblock to Christian evangelizing today, and even to all ordinary people of goodwill, everywhere, are the Islamists. Islamist political lobbying, or their secret and subversive operations (false fundraising and homegrown terrorist training boot camps etc.) that attack Christians, Jews and society in general, would quickly be labeled by Paul as the “conspiracies of the Muslims”.

ISLAMISTS, as pathetic as they are… are really conspiring to overthrow (in time) our world, as we know it… in order to recreate it into that ugly image of Islam.

But like every diminishing group, losing power and destined to lose power the Muslims are wild-eyed and rabid.

Sorry, but your Mohammed could never have the appeal our Jesus does. People will leave Islam in “miraculous” droves, once the “sword” and the local Islamist no longer threatens.

Ann loves her MEGACHURCHES, but Anne are they the real Church?

No Anne, they are not… only the Real Presence (the Eucharist) validates, no, creates an authentic church. Singing, clapping, congregations filled to overcapacity, entertaining sermons and the like are nice, but if there is no Eucharist, there is no presence of God.

And as a Catholic, I hope that you find your way home to Rome and become a “perfected” Christian… by becoming a Catholic ~

B"H I remember when Ann was asked why she did not comment so much on the happenings in the MidEast. In her humility, she said that there were so many other people, more qualified than her, to do so. In the same interview, she was asked to chime in anyway. She said [something like], when you attack someone and try to destroy them, you get your land taken away....

She's got my vote.

I can picture it now, radical muslims and leftist jews marching side by side chanting "slit Ann Coulter's throat for offending us!"

first, debbie gets the understanding of "the chosen people" wrong. her understanding of this concept is what antisemites use to say that jews believe they are better than everyone. jews are chosen to keep the laws. it is a responsibility, not a privledge. we are also chosen to be a light unto the nations, to be an example, and definitely not to spew the sort of garbage that comes from debbie's blog.

hey debbie, its a sin to spread lies about a fellow jew...and smearing george soros, is a sin.

as for coulter, i wasnt shocked that she said what she said, its par for the course.

i am shocked that there are observant jews who wish to defend her, and also wish to allign themselves with the evangelical right. doing so disregards the history of the world and how jews have been persecuted in every christian country.

the reason jews have escaped persecution as a whole here in the united states has nothing to do with it being a christian country, and everything to do with the constitution.

Hi Deb

I'm Jewish and not offended.
The real enemy is Islam not what Anne has to say here and there. Islamic Jihad is killing Jews in real time in the real world while Jews get offended by what Anne says-in the virtual world of MSNBC
I'm smart enough not to get sucked into some ginned up liberal propaganda where it's trash Imus one day then on to Rush then Anne Coulter

Was Anne somewhat offensive to the Tribe. Sure but who cares?

DW

Uncle Joe McCarthy, the laws against loshon hara do not apply to a rasha, an evil person who does harm to the Jewish people. In fact, we are required to speak out against rashas, and George Soros is the archetypal rasha if ever there was one. He is betraying and destroying his own people.

I have met many Christian Zionists who do not adhere to Replacement Theology, who respect Jews as Jews and do not feel they are required to convert us. They feel ashamed of the church's antisemitic heritage and want to do their part to change that, even though they are not themselves guilty. What good does it do to stereotype people for all time? Why not let people, or in this case, the church, change, when they show a desire to abandon past evil ways and follow righteousness?

I appreciate Christian friendship. At the same time, I am always on guard against attempts to convert me (haven't had any problems yet, though). And I always remember where my true strength comes from, which is God and not man.

I'm really relieved that you feel that way, especially after seeing the look of horror of Meredith Viera's face when she reported on this, as she was gazing sympathetically at Matt Lauer.
The only issue I have with Ann Coulter is that she and I look at our faith in a slightly different way; I was taught that the New Testament is the perfection of the Covenant between God and humanity, NOT the perfection of human beings. That must wait for the next life.

This is in response to the person who thinks that muslims will wipe out Israel.The Jews are God`s chosen people;therefore God will protect Israel from the muslims.tom rodebaugh

Debbie,

I was in my car listening to Michael Savage last Thursday (10/11), and he started attacking Ann. I was furious! When I got to my destination I called the show until I got through, however, my call was dumped after the I told the screener I was calling to support Ann. Two supportive callers had previously called in and Savage made insane attacks on them telling them they should go back to their smoking and drinking! ? No more Savage for me.

Debbie,
I love the fact that you and Ann both have such a grasp of the important simplicities that seem to escape so many people, especially many of those who are supposedly "informing" us. Of course I realize that many of our pundits are in the employ of people like Soros who seek to undermine the most dynamic and successful country in the world.

I always enjoy it when two Conservative thinkers I admire, openly support each other.

For my part, as a lover of the whole bible including the so-called "Apocryphal" Book of Wisdom, suggest that the word "completed"
or "fulfilled" might have been a better choice and would obviously have left a little less manipulative fodder for Sorrowful George's minions.

Paula,

By contrast to Debbie supporting Ann or Hannity venerating Rush,
Savage calls Rush, "Hush Bimbo". The smell of that vainly competitive spirit caused me to cross him off my list a long time ago. That degree of pride cuts so deeply into delivery that whatever wisdom he may think he is imparting is too tainted to be servicable.

I love Ann, and I am a devoted Christian, but I think Ann went too far when she said we Christians believe we are "perfected Jews".

I don't feel that way, one bit, because the Bible tells us "If we say we have no Sin, than the truth is not in us." I, like the Apostle Paul, admit that I am the greatest of all Sinners. For Ann Coulter to lump all Christians into a group and say we Christians believe we are "perfected Jews", sounds extremely arrogant, as though all Christians think we are better than God's Chosen People. As a Christian who embraces my Judeo-Christian heritage through Jesus Christ, I honestly found her remarks to be uneducated. I love you Ann, but sometimes you need to first engage your brain before opening your mouth and inserting your foot!

I saw Ann in a previous interview some time ago. I think she was being interviewed by Paul Crouch, Jr., on TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network). She said she was "working on being a Christian", if I remember. The Bible talks about how we need to get off "spiritual milk", and get on "spiritual food". As someone who has been "born again" (a/k/a "Saved", a/k/a had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ) for 50 yrs., next year, I have been weaned off "spiritual milk" and on "spiritual food" for decades now. I think Ann's remarks reflect the fact she is still on "spiritual milk".

Again, I love you Ann, but when that Reporter gave you time during the break to revise your remarks, they instead came out sounding far worse the second time around. A little bit of tact would have been in order. I know the media has literally been putting you through unnecessary hell this year, but since then, you have really been coming across sounding more bitter than ever. I honestly think Ann's lack of tact during her interview set the good relations we Christians have been trying to improve between us and God's Chosen People back a few years, rather than improved them.

We Christians were grafted into the "tree" of Judiasm through the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, our Messiah. I recall Jesus' own words to Nicodemus, "you must be born again to enter into Heaven". We Christians want God's Chosen People to make that decision to be "born again" (be reborn in faith in Jesus Christ), but for all of us, that is a personal decision we must make, individually. Unfortunately many people claiming they are "Christians"--who have never made the decision to make Jesus Christ their Messiah--are under the false assumption they will be going to Heaven, anyway. That's a blatant lie that Satan has propagated. The Bible is clear many of these people (believers) will be surprised on Judgment Day because they won't be going to Heaven because they have not been "born again" in faith in Jesus Christ. Being "Saved" is as simple as humbling ourselves before God, confessing our Sins, accepting the blood sacrifice Jesus made on the cross on our behalf, and asking God's Holy Spirit to enter into us and take over our life. That's Salvation by Grace (the free unmerited gift of forgiveness for our Sins from God), rather than the false teaching most popular in Catholicism and religious cults that we supposedly receive Salvation by Works. If we were "Saved" by our own good works, there wouldn't be any need for a Messiah, for we could Save ourselves. Yes, the Bible says, "Faith without works is dead", but that once someone has asked Jesus into their heart, His Holy Spirit resides inside them, and good works are just an outgrowth of our faith. We don't do good works to try to buy ourselves a place into Heaven, because that's impossible.

The Jews know that historically, God has always required a blood sacrifice for atonement (the forgiveness of Sins), usually by a spotless (perfect) animal, like a lamb. Jesus was that spotless (perfect) blood sacrifice, as He was God's own Son. Our Sins were so great, that's what God required. All we need to do is simply accept the sacrifice Jesus made for us on the cross, and He promises us we will have eternal life in Heaven! Why is it so easy? Because in Matthew 3:16 it says, "For God so loved the World that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life".

If we look at the story of Abraham, it actually parallels the story of Jesus. God had asked Abraham to sacrifice His own Son on an altar, and at the last second before Abraham killed his Son, an Angel stayed Abraham's hand, and God provided a perfect sacrifice in a nearby thicket. The Bible tells us there is no greater love than to be willing to lay down one's own life for a friend, and that's exactly what our Messiah did for all of us. Only the Son of God could be that perfect sacrifice for the forgiveness of Sins for all of God's people on Earth: past, present, and future! The "altar" Jesus was sacrified on was the cross on which He hung and died. But because Jesus was God, as He claimed, He was able to rise from the dead, just as the the Jewish prophets has prophesied in the Old Testament (the Torah). He resurrected into Heaven just has He promises His believers will also do when He returns for us, soon.

I believe in education. I don't think it would be heresy for any Jew to read the rest of the books of the Torah in the Old Testament and also the New Testament. I suggest they begin with the Gospel of John, and then read the other three Gospels in any order they wish, as they give a well-rounded view of Jesus: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Just trying to keep it simple here. I like Ann Coulter. I don't know who this Donny Deutsch is. I did see the interview on the news and think Ann could have explained her position better. In her defense, this Donny guy was trying to bait her. What is it that is said about discussing religion and politics? Put them both together and there is going to be fireworks! Good article Debbie. Keep'em coming. For Blitzer..If you can't say anything without using insults, then be quiet!

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