January 03, 2008

The Dallas Muslim Honor Killings & ICE: I Correctly Called It, Dallas HQ, Plus Policy Implications

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By Debbie Schlussel

Yesterday morning, I was the first to post about the Muslim honor killing by Yaser Abdel Said of his two daughters, Sarah and Amina. I correctly called it then. I said it was an honor killing and I said that it was probably because his daughters were dating non-Muslim boys:

A taxicab driver named Yaser Abdel Said murders both of his teenage daughters on Tuesday, probably because they had too much fun (perhaps with the dreaded non-Muslim infidels).

I was right on both counts (that it was an honor killing and that it was over the daughters' infidel dating repertoire), as a Dallas NBC interview confirms. Ditto for this story, posted today on the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram site:

When Sarah, 17, recently met a boy at her job, she told a friend that her father would kill her if he found out.
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Dallas Muslim Yaser Abdel Said Honor-Killed Daughters Sarah & Amina

But I don't know why people are shocked. This is no surprise on two counts. First, this isn't the first Muslim honor killing in America. I've been writing about these for years on this site and elsewhere, well before 9/11. I've written about the Indiana honor killing of Palestina Isa by her Palestinian father, a devotee of Abu Nidal, who was under investigation by the FBI. I've written about the honor killing committed by Bangladeshi Muslim Dr. Azizul Islam in the Detroit area, who suspected his non-Muslim wife was having an affair. He chopped her up and put the pieces in a dumpster. I've written about honor killings in Dearbornistan and elsewhere in the Detroit area, as well as elsewhere in America, North America, and throughout the Western World.

And, as I've written, honor killings are not just against women, unlike so many fake terrorism "experts" claim. I've written about honor killings by Muslims against other Muslim men in Windsor, Canada. Honor killings are killings done against anyone who has brought "dishonor" against a person or family. The issue is not just about dating or marital affairs, as so many Johnny-come-latelies to the terrorism scene mistakenly believe. It can be about a deal gone wrong.

In the Windsor case, for example, a whole family (including a woman) honor-beheaded a fellow Muslim--a male taxicab driver--over a dispute regarding property for a mosque. They felt he brought dishonor on them in getting the better end of the deal.

The boyfriends of the girls in this case, Sarah and Amina Said, are afraid, they told the NBC station. Well, they should be. Honor killings are often against the "undesirable" male in a "dishonorable" relationship.

Oh, and by the way, as one reader notes, the Dallas media is now reporting that the cab company for which Mr. Said reportedly worked claims it fired him a year ago. How was he making a living after that? Just what was he up to, being an Islamist radical from Egypt?

Then, there are the more important implications for immigration enforcement issues. The location where the shootings of the daughters took place--or at least where their father's taxicab containing their dead bodies was found--was a hotel parking lot, ironically, right across the street from Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Dallas Headquarters (known as the Dallas SAC--or Special Agent in Charge--Office). Both ICE's Dallas office and the hotel parking lot are visible together on Google Earth.

Los Colinas, this Dallas suburb where the bodies were found and where ICE is located, is near suburbs with a huge Muslim population. There are many Muslims in the Dallas-Ft. Worth metroplex which is now the fourth largest metropolitan area of the country. Dallas suburbs, Irving and Arlington, have large Islamic populations and more than a couple of Mosques. The Muslim population is from all over Muslim-dominated regions of the world and includes large populations hailing from Somalia, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq. The Holy Land Foundation at HQ in Richardson, another area suburb.

As in New York, where at least one of the 1993 WTC bombers was a cab driver, many of the Dallas-area Muslims are cab drivers. Sources tell me that anyone who can see will verify that over half the cabs waiting in the cues at DFW airport terminals are operated by Arabs, Somalians and Nigerians and other assorted Muslims. Not all of them are up to good. And not all of them are here legally, either. But few of them have to worry about ICE touching them. That wouldn't be right. They're not Hispanic--the ICE primary target.

I am not suggesting that the Yaser Abdel Said--the Egyptian Muslim who honor-killed his daughters--was an illegal alien. I do not know his immigration status. But I do know this: We are not putting any restrictions--under George W. Bush--on the number of Muslims and Arabs we allow into this country. If anything, the situation has gotten worse, despite claims to the contrary.

And I know this: ICE agents are not rounding up Muslim illegal aliens, only Hispanic ones. ICE agents tell me that 99% of those they round up for deportation are Latinos. As I've repeatedly written and asked, how many Latinos hijacked the planes on 9/11? How many Jesuses and Manuels and Estebans got their orders from Bin Laden, that day? You know the answer. A big fat zero.

How many Muslims are mowing your lawns, cleaning your homes, working at your meat plants, and fast food restaurants? Well, if you read this site, probably no illegal aliens are doing work for you. But Latino illegal aliens are the ones working the farms, etc. I'm upset that they are here illegally and driving wages down for Americans who want jobs.

But we need priorities in immigration enforcement. We cannot round up everyone. There is neither the manpower nor the will, and certainly not the "leadership." And I've heard of almost no Latino honor killings in America. Very few Hispanic illegal aliens raise money for terrorist groups through the Holy Land Foundation and LIFE for Relief and Development. No Mexicans protest when a privately-owned gym in Lincoln Park, Michigan has co-ed workout days and now must build a divider to shield the view of these "sexy" (Muslim) women as they work out in skimpy, un-Islamic clothes.

The whole reason for the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the INS and Customs reorganizaitons into ICE was a response to 9/11. So, in responding to 9/11, do you round up dishwashers named Miguel Hernandez . . . or do you track down money launderers named Mohammed and Hamida, who are here illegally?

Sadly, ICE and DHS have targeted the former and completely ignored the latter. The same goes for Citizenship and Immigration Services, which continue to rubber stamp the immigration applications of honor-murderers like Yaser Abdel Said, so he--like his fellow co-religionists before him and after him--can import his disgusting Muslim cultural "activities" (like murdering two daughters) to our shores.

And the part of ICE that used to be the U.S. Customs Service Office of Investigations did incredible terrorism money-laundering investigations. Operation Greenquest, under the leadership of Marcy Forman-Friedman (who then earned my compliments and admiration, but no longer), successfully thwarted terrorism financing because their targets were Muslims. They investigated Muslims who financed mass-murder, not Latinos who plucked feathers from your future chicken dinner. Which one is a bigger threat--Yaser Abdel Said, who murdered his two daughters, or Maria, a hotel housekeeper? Both are lawbreakers. But the one who is dedicated to Islamist culture and jihad is far more dangerous than the service industry worker.

America is not safer under Bush. It is far less safe. Here is what one ICE agent told me, which echoes what many others have said:

Customs agents hate ICE because we no longer do complex investigations into things like Islamic terrorism funding and money-laundering and, instead, only chase after Hispanic illegals. Immigration agents hate ICE because all the high level management is former Customs, and INS agents say that ICE is even more mucked up now than it was when INS was when was responsible for immigration enforcement.

It's the truth, and tax payers need to know that DHS and ICE are a total waste of their money. As I have said before, legacy Customs agents knew how to do complex investigations to include money laundering and commercial fraud. Legacy INS agents know how to round up illegals from south of the border. Pure ICE agents don't know how to do anything, and they are replacing both legacy agents at a rapid pace. Legacy street agents and supervisory agents from both the former-INS and the former-Customs can't get out the door fast enough. As you have seen, Julie Meyers can get away with anything short of murder at this time.

Radical Islam is the biggest threat to our National Security. I hope you can write more in your blog about the current state of ICE. Neither ICE nor the FBI is getting the job done. We are less safe than we were prior to the creation of ICE in March 2003. ICE is spending billions of dollars to catch a few thousand butchers, cooks, maids and farm laborers and we can't even do that effectively.

We are not allowed to pick up illegals on our way to work. ICE only wants Headquarters-directed dog and pony shows. WASTE FRAUD and MISMANAGEMENT are the core values at ICE.

Until things change--with our immigration policy regarding who we let in and regarding who we round up--there will be more and more Yaser Abdel Saids and more and more daughters and others murdered on our shores in the name of Islamic honor.

Posted by Debbie at January 3, 2008 03:17 PM

Comments

Beautiful girls; so very sad. Have they caught this animal yet? "Honor" is an excuse for these animals. They kill for fun. They even love to be killed. It's bred in them from birth. The grislier, the better. Wonderful culture huh? Let's teach our elementary school kids about the beauty of it all; maybe dress 'em up in burkahs, fast, whatever. It's all beautiful, man. Except Christianity and Judaism; paragons of intolerance!

Posted by: spiffo [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 05:55 PM

So proud he had to kill his unarmed daughters, but not enough pride to face the consequences of his actions. That is Islamic pride. Cowardly and Sadistic.

Posted by: Pat [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 05:58 PM

"When Sarah, 17, recently met a boy at her job, she told a friend that her father would kill her if he found out."

Ahh--yeah!!

What a sickening scourge of the earth is islam. Great call, great story Debbie. Thanks for your consistent sounding of the alarm. The other quote that is most telling in this is article is from your ICE insider:

"ICE only wants Headquarters-directed dog and pony shows. WASTE FRAUD and MISMANAGEMENT are the core values at ICE."

I know you hate it when people steal your work (with no credit given to you)--but I wish someone in the MSM would steal this and make a cause of exposing the waste of ICE-even your buddy Hannity. Can you discuss this on Mike Church??


Posted by: BB [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 05:59 PM

If the cab company fired him a year ago, how did he still have a cab to put the bodies in? Doesn't add up.

Posted by: kishke [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 07:17 PM

This just broke my heart. One of them has a myspace page. I found it on the postings of jihad watch. So sad, her opening quote broke my heart even more. Just a regular and normal girl trying to live her life. She liked country music but not bluegrass. Here's a link.
Someone else posted that he parked the car close to the airport and might have taken off to egypt before anyone knew what happened. If so he's gone.

http://www.myspace.com/semirockerchic

Posted by: nyone [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 08:34 PM

Keep up the great work on ICE. Don't let down your guard. No one else is covering this scandal of an agency.

Where is the feminist response to honor killing in America? Did you hear anything from the organizations that are supposed to protect women?

Posted by: barrypopik [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 09:48 PM

How many latinos hijacked the planes on 9/11, we need “priorities” in immigration enforcement, we cannot round up everyone. I’m used to those statements being vomited up by the Bush-Kennedy-McCain-wall street journal-Tamar jacoby-Rueben Navarette-DHS-LaRaza-Home depot crowd, but Schlussel?
Interesting. Gilchrist gives his support to an open borders advocate, Tancredo throws his support behind an amnesty guy and now Schlussel’s mouthing open border platitudes?
The pigs must be in flight.
That said: the majority of rank and file Americans, citizens, are quite happy with the iCE dog and pony show if the show produces deported illegal aliens.
I see no reason why we should accept some 20 million foreign nationals whose presence on our soil has contributed to the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans.
No.
That some muslim savage slaughters his own blood because his religion gives him permission to do so does not diminish the ongoing devastation those 20 million illegals bring about.
No question the federal government welcomes Muslims with open arms. Indeed. Bush has given much to Islam in the US, from access to our security procedures at airports (which I believe Schlussel reported on) to the mindless blubbering about Islam is a religion of peace.
The only people he has given more to is the illegal alien.
A growing number of Americans are fighting the illegal alien invasion through grass roots organizations that demonstrate, fax, email and phone their respective congress criminals and so forth.
For whatever reasons there are no comparative organizations confronting the Islamic threat. There should be.
Certainly if Bush has his way, illegal aliens and Muslims will be the death of us. But suggesting we allow illegal aliens to carry on as they wish in the vain hope that DHS will suddenly start rounding up illegal alien muslims is not just wrong, its delusional.
DHS can’t do the job now. What will change?
A very disappointing post.

Posted by: rubicon220 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 11:58 PM

After killing their own flesh and blood, these hypocrites will declare: "In Islam, killing one innocent human being, is like killing whole humanity".
ofcourse, this is for the gullible kafur, whose throat will be slit by the same Islamist, a the first opportunity. Feel the light of Islam.

Posted by: Alert [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 01:13 AM

Questions: With two pretty looking daughters, I have to ask: How'd he get a beautiful woman to marry him? and Is his wife so under his thumb economically that she had to settle for him? Also, since the girls look fairly different, did he (does he?) have more than one wife? I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: Jeremiah [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 01:46 AM

Look at those green-gray eyes - Are they the issue of strictly Arab genes?

Posted by: Jeremiah [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 01:51 AM

Look at those green-gray eyes - Are they the issue of strictly Arab genes?

Posted by: Jeremiah [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 01:52 AM

Jeremiah: "Look at those green-gray eyes - Are they the issue of strictly Arab genes?"

Do you know who Amin al-Husseini was? He was the mufti of Jerusalem and the leader of the Palestinians from the 1920's until after WWII. Among his notable "accomplishments":

- Incited a pogrom in the 1920s that wiped out the indigenous Jewish population of Hebron

- Undertook a campaign of assassination against Arab moderates in the 1930s that has kept sane Palestinians in fear to this day

- Allied with Hitler during WWII and lived in Berlin during the war

- When he got wind of a Nazi plan to release Jewish children for ransom money he urged his friend Himmler to send the children to the death camps

- Allegedly visited the gas chambers himself to make sure Jews were being killed fast enough for him

- Founded the PLO

- Relative (uncle or cousin?) of Yasser Arafat, and like him was a homosexual

Husseini had red hair and blue eyes.

Posted by: Gary Rosen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 04:00 AM

I live in the metroplex and some information not going out to the general public (info on local television news)- the father has lived in Texas for the past 22 years. I would guess he's likely here legally. Also, the mother and daughters had left him apparently. On Dec. 26th he called police to his home to file a missing person's report about his wife and daughters.

There are a number of large mosques in the more "pc" cities and areas. Smaller cities aren't as muslim-friendly.

While you see muslims in Fort Worth, for example, you don't see them much outside of WalMart. They don't usually frequent restraunts, etc. nor the malls here.

I believe- but cannot prove- that the Holy Land Trial results had an after-effect of emboldening Muslims. Liberalism's affect (and the jury bully was an ardent liberal) is to embolden enemies of America, even on our soil.

Posted by: leahdyanne [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 09:11 AM

The girls' brother, Islam Said, said publicly during and after the candlelight vigil that religion had nothing to do with the killings. To the Forth Worth Star-Telegram he said, "Religion has nothing to do with this, and it was very wrong. Islam is not a bad religion." To the Dallas Morning News he said, "It's not religion. It's something else. Religion has nothing to do with it." He urged his father to surrender to police. The police said there is a long history of domestic violence in the family.

http://13martyrs.blogspot.com/

Posted by: 13 Martyrs [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 10:51 AM

Jeremiah- "Look at those green-gray eyes - Are they the issue of strictly Arab genes?"

genetics has little to nothing to do with this issue. We are dealing with the intersection of religious influence on culture as it affects an individual.

As close-to-home example, my father came from Poland. My mother was a full blood Cherokee. Look at me, and there's little to no sign of me being anything but native american. I have straight black hair, dark eyes, "the cheekbones" and the complexion. My father was blonde, blue eyed, and fair complected. My husband's morphology matches my Dad's. Our son is practically a clone of his father. Our daughter is a "mini-me".

If you were to take a geneticly nordic child at birth, raise him in the culture, religion and polity of Saudi Arabia, what would you expect of him? Would you evaluate him as a "threat" based on "where he's been" or on "how he looks"?

This is how political correctness corrupts our society and erodes common sense- moral relativism has expanded now so we look for ways to find "redemption" for behavior in any way we can- be it cultual, selective choice of evaluation of relegion and now directly trying to apply "eugenics" and ethnicity.

I seem to remember hearing about a few nutbags 7 decades ago who tried to apply that kind of thinking to comdemn the innocent and excuse the morally reprehensible.

Posted by: Mistress_Dee [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 11:27 AM

First and foremost I would like to send my condolences to the family. I can only imagine how hard it would be to deal with such a loss. Next I would like to address Debbie's article, which I found to have an underlying purpose. This article did not seem to be geared towards addressing the situation at hand, instead it seemed to be a sly attack towards Islam and Arabs in general. Sometime I feel that there is so much anger towards a religion which comprises SO much of the population. I think people need to step back and realize that there are isolated incidences in every culture/religion. This is no justification for the act itself, but when you put every isolated incidence of a certain religion on blast, you tend to creat an image of that specific religion! Islam in general is not a barbaric religion. You quite seldom hear of the good that is done by people of this relgion. To me this is very sad, b/c there are a lot of good people out there who are ultimately discredited due to the media portrayal of "them" as human beings. The whole article is filled with inaccuracies and self opinions. It talks about the family tragedy for 2 paragraphs and then tirades for the rest of the article into how "Islam and Arabs" are horrible, and how we should save hispanics from the ICE. And as for Debbie saying hispanics are harmless, they too have people within their community who commit outrageous crimes (murders, rapes etc). So for her to portray anyone as barbaric vs. harmless is inaccurate. I personally think she needs to be less opinionated, and do her research the proper way before she goes on a tirade depicting and placing over 1 million people into a "category" of animals. I think she needs to be on a mission to depict accuracies rather than a crusade to victimize a religion. She is one among many individuals out to stereotype a massive group of people. Very sad.

Posted by: Laura [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 12:05 PM

This is only going to increase and get worse unless we recognize Islam for what it is - a fascist idealogy determined to destroy us.


Proposed Constitutional Amendment

Background and justification

Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;

Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice the religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion to religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a “religious test” for participation in the body politic;

Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by the religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;

Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;

Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even “moderate” Muslims states such as Turkey actively suppress other religions;

Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenant the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;

Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim high-jackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at American people around the world;

Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbolla, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America will cease to exist;

Whereas there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;

Therefore: Islam is not a religion but a fascist political ideology which is totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution and dedicated to the destruction of those freedoms.

Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:

Amendment 28

Article I

The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.

The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.

Article II

As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its organized practice within the United States is now prohibited.

Article III

Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.

The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its current war on democratic values.

The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as proscribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.

Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.

Article IV

Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.

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ps: Debi, thanks for letting my posts stay up - several other bloggers have a problem with my idea and are willing to squelch it.

Scott
robscottwilk@yahoo.com

Posted by: robscottw [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 12:09 PM

Laura,

Sending condolences to this family is like sending condolences to Oedipus's relatives (except that the Oedipus tragedy is great and instructive, whereas this is a dead-end waste).

It's haughty of you to presume you can grasp the dimensions of what its remnant members are going through, too.

The son's alleged statements that religion played no role are not irrelevant, but don't presume that they whitewash the case either. Obviously, a "committed" Muslim, one steadfast in his jihad, will contemn these weak Muslims - who did not abide by sharia, who fell into Western ways.

As for my open-air question about the girls' (obvious) physical differences, I'm just trying to get at the possible factors that contribute to the instability, insanity, and brutality that make their father tick (tick-tick-tick ... BOOOOM!!!). Had he married a non-Muslim and/or white woman, that's an essential and elementary fact any investigative writer (journalist, blogger, certainly government crime investigator) has an obligation to discover and report.

Dozens if not hundreds of questions are instantly germane at this time, related to immigration status, religious faith or affiliation, etc. etc., many of which Deb touches upon in this post, which should serve as a touchstone for a rigorous investigation.

Posted by: Jeremiah [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 12:23 PM

Well once again ignorance has prevailed. I guess there really isn't much you can say to a group of people who are convinced of the truth. Only ignorant people would classify millions as one and only barbaric people would try to steal rights away from others. As for Jeremiah.. My blogging of 5 minutes allowed me to find out that he was married to a white woman, so for you to say there are alot of questions is fine, my point is just that a real journalist gets all the facts straight before writing a story.

Posted by: Laura [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 12:34 PM

"Dozens if not hundreds of questions are instantly germane at this time..."

If that's ignorance prevailing, it must be too good to be true.

Posted by: Jeremiah [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 12:39 PM

My point exactly... if there are so many questions left unanswered we shouldn't jump to conclusions, point fingers and create stereotypes. And if you buy into these stereotypes than you should feel no sympathy for these girls, b/c they too were muslims. And if you're content living in an ignorant world, congratulations to you. I feel that people should promote unity instead of hatred, that's all that I was stating.

Posted by: Laura [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 04:12 PM

Laura,

I can find so many video clips on the internet that have been taped in multiple nations and they have one thing in common....moozlums committing unspeakable acts of barbarism.
Why are you trying to convince people that the things they see and hear from the moozlum population is something different than what it is?
Go to www.thereligionofpeace.com and watch the body count pile up.
The millions who you speak of that are all lumped together because of one....where in the hell are these 'millions' that you refer too? I have never heard the first one of them get up and say the first phucking word!! I don't want to hear this bullshit about 'they are scared for their saftey'. You can call me a bigot, a racist or whatever because I don't care. I see the truth and that truth has Islam, moozlums and their barbarisms written all over it.

Posted by: newinnewark [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 06:06 PM

Newinnewark, not only are you a racist and a bigot it seems that you are uneducated as well. Atleast with the other comments I felt I was having a discussion with someone at my level. I really have nothing to say to you other than try to learn how to spell the word "moozlum" before engaging in a conversation about "moozlums". Thanks.

Posted by: Laura [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 07:50 PM

From a comment above to Newinnewark: "Not only are you a racist.." Islam is not a race. It is a belief system which divides the globe into two camps, that of Believer and that of Infidel. The Believer is obligated to expand the realm of Islam (the dar al-Islam) at the expense of the realm of Unbelief (the dar al-Harb) until Islam, enshrined by Shari'a law, rules the entire globe. Islam incorporates a developed doctrine of war against all other religions. No other religion of any consequence has such a doctrine, or possesses such a global territorial imperative. Islam also marginalizes women as well as unbelievers - women are considered little more than property, are considered morally and intellectually inferior, and are considered to have inferior character. For these reasons, under Shari'a law, women cannot inherit what a man can, cannot be considered to give reliable testimony in courts, cannot travel unaccompanied, cannot refuse their husbands' sexual advances, and are subject to beatings and to immediate divorce. I will not continue, in the interest of brevity, although I could say much more. All of this - the imperatives of Islam, the subjugation and marginalization of unbelievers, and the inferior and vulnerable status of women - is based upon the core texts of Islam, which is to say the Koran, the Hadiths, and the Sira, or biography of Muhammed (with particular emphasis on the original, written by Ibn Ishaq). Shari'a law is based upon all of this. Not all Muslims, of course, are True Believers. Many, presumably, ignore, or are ignorant of, these texts, these precepts of Islam, and have no real interest in studying them. But these texts remain, and these precepts remain, and they are refractory, and they are inimical to and utterly incompatible with what constitutes a modern, free society. And while many Muslims may not be completely observant - may not pray five times a day, perhaps, may hang pictures on the walls of their homes, and may listen to music (one must turn to the hadiths to find out what Muhammed had to say about painting, music, and poetry) for pleasure, they, too often,know enough about Islam, and are sufficiently suffused with its atmospherics and attitudes, to regard the commingling of their daughters with infidels as abominable and intolerable, for the two camps, that of the realm of Islam and that of the realm of Unbelief, must forever be enemies, the latter subsumed by the former. And in the service of such a goal, all obstacles to its implementation must be swept away, even if this may entail the killing of one's own daughters or female relatives, who, by their actions, have behaved in a manner unbecoming to proper Muslimas. Think of Ibrahim's willingness to sacrifice his son, Ismail, in accordance with Allah's command. This is what a Muslim must do, as a slave of Allah - sacrifice for the greater good; the good of the Ummah. This, even if one does not always pray five times daily, or forego music, or hang a picture on the wall at home.

Posted by: commonsense [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 09:37 PM

A terrible crime, one of far too many.

The Headline should have read "Two American Girls slaughtered in Islamic terror attack", anything less is completely dishonest.

As for the complexion and eye-colour of the oldest victim; Many Arabs of the Galilee and Carmel regions of Eretz Israel have light skin and blue eyes. (i.e. The actor Muhammad Bakri). Whatever their complexions, these were two, intelligent, ALL AMERICAN girls...ruthlessly slaughtered by an Islamic terrorist carrying out the dictates of the paedophile Prophet.

Shalom,

"Baruch atah Hashem Elokeinu melech haolam, dayan ha'emet, Baruch dayan emet"

Posted by: Miluimnik [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 09:54 PM

Newinnewark

Not only are you not a racist and bigot, I found your comments right on the money.

Anyone that believes Islam is a Religion of Peace has a problem with reality.

IMHO

Posted by: ScottyDog [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2008 01:28 AM

Miluimnik:

Not all of us speak or even understand Hebrew. What's the point of a post in foreign language on an American site without a translation?

[J: I AGREE. I TRY TO POST TRANSLATIONS WHENEVER I USED FOREIGN WORDS, AND I ASK THAT ALL COMMENTERS TO THE SAME. WHAT MILUIMNIK POSTED IS A HEBREW BLESSING THAT MEANS, "BLESSED ART THOU, LORD/G-D, KING OF THE UNIVERSE, THE TRUE JUDGE, BLESS THE TRUE JUDGE." DS]

Posted by: jayd [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2008 07:18 AM

I agree with you that the enforcement against Latinos is just a show. But the answer to that is simple: Asian illegals and Muslim illegals are much more sophisticated and organized. They have more money and political organization and can therefore influence politicians through contributions, junkets, etc., to lay off. I see it in CA all the time.

Is this the new wave of illegals, thanks to visa overstays? http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Dec/13/bz/hawaii712130332.html

Posted by: PJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2008 12:22 PM

It would be easy to mock Laura for naivete, but I don;t have the heart. For one thing she seems like a nice person generally. For another, she's simply a representative of a very common attitude in this country.

Laura, like almost all non-Muslim Americans, has grown up in an environment so steeped in the Judeo-Christian tradition that it is literally unthinkable to her that other people might kill for their faith. Moreover, she's probaly bought the leftist lie that all religions are equal -- in other words, there might be bad parts of the Koran, but the Bible is just as bad if not worse.

Therefore, when we characterize Muslims based on their stated beliefs, demonstrated actions by the most fervent minority, and DEAFENING silence on the part of the "moderate majority", Laura con see only "racism." It's not her fault, really...

Incidentally, re the proposed amendment: in this country you can hold whatever political beliefs you want, too, but that didn't stop FDR from busting the German American Bunds in WW II...

Posted by: DocLiberty [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 6, 2008 09:03 AM

It's contagious. Last month it happened up here near where my boyfriend works, and there it is again. Here's what he wrote about it, as well as Mark Steyn-related stuff. http://www.darrellepp.com/?p=67
http://www.darrellepp.com/?p=78
and
www.darrellepp.com

Posted by: dorothee [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 7, 2008 12:05 AM

Wow!
I know one thing for sure that prick took away some of the best looking AMERICANS I have ever seen for their age!
If this is what allah is all about, screw him and this wothless, infadel prick!
He raised a wuss for a son too! If Irving PD had it in them, they would have charged that little jackass as an accessory to this horrific crime!
He was the one to sure them that it would be okay to begin with...and when the funeral was over, he was the first one out the door to hollar, "This F*&king funeral is over!" several times. He knew this was going to happen...and quite frankly, if Patricia dies...it will be expected and not a surprise as neither of those 'god' worshipping sons-of-allahs are to blame & not convicted by our wonderfully trained PD's!
May my the God that I worship grant him mercy! My belief is an eye for an eye! Yes, I will call 911 after the fact. Then they can house him in a monestary somewhere, rather than a high costing, out of my back pockets tax dollar paid home-front...which is free to them of charge!

Eye for an eye yasir...come out, come out, where ever you are.

Posted by: david [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 7, 2008 09:19 PM

Hey Islam, come on stupid! I want to wake your Islamic god myself by breaking off a piece of my foot in your rear end!
I believe if you were in jail that worthless as hell father of yours would come out of hiding!
Me personally, I didn't like the remarks you made after the funeral one bit!
Remember saying, "This f&^king funeral is over?"
No, it's not. There are some of us who still need closure. I think there are a lot of us that would like to see your worthless father in the death seat with an un-sterile needle only AFTER we get the chance to approach him before the police are called! I won't be as gentle as to say lower your head, he wouldn't be given the choice!
Islam, you shouldn't even be allowed to mate unless it involves a blow up doll & vasoline as you carry his genes. Making you as worthless as dirt to me..along with all those others that don't use deodorant, soap, and act like they are in the wilderness!

Posted by: david [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 7, 2008 09:27 PM

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