I'm suspicious of any Muslim who is working at an airport. I'm sure that some of them are not terrorists, and some are law abiding, but it's like the doctors -- you don't know which ones. They are in a position to put bombs on planes, & the incidents with the baggage, although enough to get them fired, may only be the tip of the iceberg.

Dear Debbie;
This is always irritating to me.
How do these people keep their jobs?
The Muslims at Target. The taxi drivers at airports. The Muslim doctors who won't wash before surgery. Now these despicable low-life Jew haters don't want to touch Israeli luggage.
Imagine giving a most asinine excuse to your boss for not doing your job, without being fired.
Sincerely;
EJO

Porters? We don't need no freakin' porters! Don't they have luggage carts at Heathrow? Tipping somebody to push a cart you can push yourself is a thing of the past.

Oh Pulleeezzzeee this is insane. How do they keep their jobs.

Too bad because I have been in London over a dozen times on business and pleasure and always loved the history and tradition. However it will be a long time (if ever) that I return. Britain is one of the most anti Israel nations in the world.

England has a very long history of anti jewry.
Jews were expelled in 1290 in the reign of King Edward Ist.
Fearful of persecution the few that were there, did not declare their identity, living as Spanish merchants. Whilst their commercial affairs were public their religion was private.

Re-admission in 1656 was under the Cromwellian Protectorate tho` this does not mean that the prejudices ceased. There was no formal decision to allow readmission but it was soon evident that the presence of Jews would be more openly tolerated.
Similarly Cromwell’s motives for debating the issue openly may not have been the result of any desire for liberty of conscience as understood in the late 19th century or today, but it did lead to a significant advance in Anglo-Jewish relations.

English literature is replete with denigration of Jews, including the works of Shakespeare and Charles Dickens.

Oh noes, what are we going to do with out american dollars? We might run out of toilet paper! ^_^

Basically, what EJO and mindy1 said. I imagine if a Jewish porter did the same thing for say Gulf Air, he or she would be fired. What a double standard!

The many, constant acts of behavior like this speaks volumes about these savages. AND, it just reinforces everyone else's correct and justified view of these barbarians.

Yet, if Jewish baggage handlers refused to handle muzlums' baggage, there would be world-wide protests, riots, and murders.

Islam = The religion of the brain-dead and the homicidal.

Well, yes, follow the above advise, but you also HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT YOU'RE DOING!

We should all boycott the porters.

THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME YEARS AGO - with other porters. And I tell you, there is nothing so liberating as NOT haveing to depend on porters. I now have suitcases with wheels, and when necessary, use the airport baggage carts. HA!

When the porters find the passengers avoiding them, boycotting them, they will change their tune - and bend over backwards, not to lose their jobs.

This story is very hard to believe. I have flown into Heathrow many times, from the USA, Czech Republic and Germany on various airlines, and never seen any porters removing bags from the carousels, Muslim or otherwise. In fact, I've never seen porters in the baggage claim anywhere in the US or Europe! They do hang about in the teensy airport of Rabat, Morocco but the taxis are about 1/4 mile away and there are plenty of unemployed Muslims there, looking for a tip.

If you think baggage handlers are going to help you, try flying into the US from overseas, ha ha. Even if you have a connecting flight, you have to PICK UP ALL YOUR LUGGAGE YOURSELF AND HAUL IT THROUGH IMMIGRATIONS AND CUSTOMS before you can recheck it to your final destination. This goes for Americans and foreigners, including Israelis/Jews.

Moreover, two airlines fly to Heathrow from Tel Aviv, El Al and British Airways. I have never heard it called "British Air" - either the full name or BA.

Just noticed this comment - "the man who was taking her to the baggage carousel" - just who travels and has a designated lackey to escort you to the baggage carousel? We peons have to follow the signs. This lady sounds like a VIP or elderly/disabled. And this escort was nice enough to carry her bags for her, too? Sounds like he was trolling for a tip with this story about AWOL baggage handlers.

I have visited Israel via Heathrow Airport twice in 2004 and did not experience this particular outrage but I am not surprised.

So how would the porters know to boycott only planes from Israel? There are only two BA flights per day, both arriving at Terminal 4 with hundreds of other BA flights and there are zillions of carousels any one of which could hold the bags from TLV. Yet these porters psychically know in advance which carousels to boycott?

Another dubious comment in this tale: "In Britain, the porters take the luggage off the carousels and take them to your cab." There is often a 20-minute queue for taxis at Heathrow. But a porter is going to stand there 20 minutes not earning any money waiting for "your" cab? Unlikely. Savvy travelers either take the underground or HEX railway into the city or have a car service call for them. All these are far cheaper and more convenient than a taxi. So just who "verified" this highly unlikely story? Next thing we will be updated that a "Muslim" car service refuses to meet planes arriving from Israel (as if they've memorized those two flight numbers).

I'm sorry but this story is pure fiction. Porters do not hang around the baggage claim carousel on international flights, at least not at any airport I've used. You have to claim your own baggage, unless you are disabled and have pre-requested help in retreiving them. It sounds as if the 'gentleman' who was escorting Beryl Dean to the carousel was a bit dodgy. I'd be more worried about him than a few Islamic porters.
And by the way, we Brits are not all anti-jew. Does using 'history' from 400 years ago prove that todays populace are racists? Ask the Navajo, or the Sioux, or the Cheyenne etc. Or was that all the Brits faultas well? And oh, another thing, some of us in this country are aware of, and are trying to, highlight the threat of 'creeping Islam.'

[BA: ACTUALLY, YOU ARE WRONG. SEE THE UPDATE TO THIS ENTRY. SO SAD THAT YOU FOUND THE NEED TO BE RUDE AND ATTACK AMERICA IN YOUR RESPONSE. IT ONLY HIGHLIGHTED HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE. DS]

I go through Heathrow three or four times a year. There are no porters in the baggage claim area because they are not permitted there since passengers still must go through customs. By the time everyone exits customs, all passengers from all airlines arriving at the same time are together so no one knows which airline a passenger was on or what country the passenger is from. By the way, I have yet to see a porter standing outside customs waiting to help passengers. Bottom line? Absolutely no evidence of this occurring yet so many people are ready to accept it as fact.

[13M: READ THE UPDATE. YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE CUSTOMS AT HEATHROW, DESPITE YOUR DESIRE TO PROPAGANDIZE FOR ISLAM. DS]

After re-reading this email from Beryl Dean, I now believe that this story does not pass the smell test.

[R: ACTUALLY IT DOES PAST THE TEST, AS I'VE VERIFIED THAT IT IS, INDEED, TRUE. EASY TO MAKE SPECIOUS, SWEEPING STATEMENTS. BUT YOU DIDN'T BACK IT UP WITH ANYTHING CONCRETE. DS]

Of course, a call to BAA, which manages Heathrow, or to the manager of the skycaps/porters would put an end to any confusion. But then the answer may be inconvenient to the allegations in this post. It's curious that the Sun, the Daily Express and the Daily Mail in the UK, all of which have no love for the Muslim community, haven't printed a word of this outrageous conduct. They love this stuff. Since they missed this story, please forward them the post so they can alert the public.

Are ALL the porters at Heathrow Airport muslim? Does the airport have a policy of hiring only muslims? (Affirmative action brought to its natural conclusion!)

And why does it allow them to blatantly discriminate against passengers in this way? (who could, of course, include Arab Muslim citizens of Israel, or Christians, or even returning British Israel/Jew-haters back from their latest "fact-finding" mission...)

What is happening to Britain? Has it gone collectively and incurably insane?

I'm not Jewish, but I think I shall wear both a Star of David AND an Israeli flag pin the next time I go to Britain and just let these a**holes try to discriminate against me.

Your poor sad deluded lady. I work at Heathrow, and this is pure fiction. There are no porters at Heathrow. Skycaps are a private company whose services you have to pay for once you have claimed your baggage. There are no porters in any of the terminals baggage carousel areas.

There is no airline called British Air, however this is British Airways, also known as BA.

British Airways has nothing to do with the ground handling services once inside the terminal.

You really should seek help !

I prefer not to have my baggage handled by Muhammedans.
Period.
Does that make me 'Islamophobic?'

Good!

I'm a born and bred Londoner and I have never once heard the term 'skycap'! I also had to laugh at Debbie's response to Blue Ace's comment. Apparently a less than glowing comment about American history is 'ignorant', but calling for a boycott of Britain is completely acceptable and rational.

You can't even get the name of the airline right. I've seen Wikipedia articles better edited than this!

None of this adds up. Someone said the Sun and the Daily Mail haven't touched this story - maybe that's because Skycaps would sue them for libel!

If your IQ is low enough to believe this story, then I think it would be best for everyone if you do boycott England - we've got standards, you know!

Oh dear Debbie, if you look up the Earl of Beaconsfield, 1804-81, you will find out two things. Firstly, he was British Prime Minister (twice) and secondly, he was Jewish.
This means that Britain had a Jewish Prime Minister in the 19th century, at a time when America hadn't got round to abolishing slavery.

Next question please!!

Greetings

I have responded to this allegation both to a jewish lawyer who telephoned me and in writing to grumpyoldsod site.

I wish to make this clear - This allegation is total rubbish.

Porters are selected on the basis of ability and suitability for the job

Not that it makes a difference but there are more non-Muslim skycaps than there are Muslim Skycaps at LHR

We have many customers from ALL prominent political and religious beliefs

El-AL is a valued customer

Documentation is available for proof if needed

Baggage halls are not fully manned due to stiff security procedures to get airside

I am not doubting your version of events, im simply Suggesting that there may have been a motive for telling you this lie - prehaps that the kind wheelchair pusher from another company simply didn’t want to share a tip opportunity with a porter???

If you ever have trouble with porter services at LHR or LGW you can contact me on 0208 745 6011. They will put you through to my mobile if im out of the office.

On the other hand if you require special assistance simply pick up the green telephone that are placed and clearly marked in every baggage hall throughout the airport (T5 not yet)
(dont know why debbie didnt do this!!)

Have a nice day

Bob Gould
Manager Skycaps - LHR

Oh one more thing: there is no such thing as "British Air" unless you mean the breathing type.

Add it to this very long list of things that offend Muslims.
http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_amboy_times/2007/02/the_list_of_thi.html

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