June 29, 2006, - 6:51 am

Snakes on a Plain: Playing With Terrorists Gets Israel Bitten

You make nice to snakes, you get bitten.
With Palestinian terrorists kidnapping Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit and a 62-year-old Israeli civilian–and murdering an 18-year-old Israeli, Israel says it will not negotiate with terrorists.
But, in fact, Israel has long negotiated with terrorists. Even worse, it has given vital unilateral concessions, without even negotiations. Throughout recent history, Israel has played with Islamic terrorists, including those in the Palestinian government. And it got bitten. Unfortunately, the nation is not “once bitten, twice shy.” More like multiple bites, but repeatedly coming back for more–often under American pressure.

This is What Gilad Shalit’s Release Looks Like

A series of releases of thousands of Palestinian terrorists from prison in meaningless deals has garnered Israel nothing, except proof that it lies when it claims it does not negotiate with terrorists. A year ago, Israel released 400 Palestinian terrorists from prison in addition to 500 terrorists released in February 2005, per an agreement with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. What did Israel get in the agreement? A big fat nothing.
In August 2003, Israel released almost 400 Palestinian terrorists from prison “as a goodwill gesture” to the Palestinians. The results are clear: It didn’t garner much good will.
Then, there was that January 2004 “exchange” of hundreds of Lebanese Hezbollah and Palestinian terrorists for three dead Israeli soldiers’ mutilated bodies and a live drug-dealing Israeli businessman, Elhanan Tannenbaum, who was a double agent for Hezbollah. Yet another stupid deal Israel made with Shia Hezbollah and Sunni Palestinian Terrorists (both of whom are working hand in hand to defeat the evil Zionist entity and even Jews at the Buenos Aires, Argentina Jewish Community Center).
In 1985, Israel “traded” 1,100 Palestinian, Lebanese, and Syrian terrorists for three Israeli soldiers held by Palestinian terrorists in Lebanon–one of the first trades that led to the ceaseless others.
So does Israel negotiate with terrorists? Unfortunately, yes it does. Often under pressure from the U.S. government, particularly the “counter-terrorist” President, George W. Bush.
That’s how the country got itself into the position it is in. It constantly makes empty deals with terrorists with Uncle Sam demanding it. And never learns its lesson, nor does its U.S. taskmaster, which continues requiring more from the tiny besieged State. Imagine if our country released all terror suspects at Guantanamo, plus most of those in U.S. Prisons–including the Blind cleric who was involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing–as a goodwill gesture to Bin Laden.
Last year, Israel gave Palestinians–sworn to wipe Israel off the map–an important base from which to carry out that oath. That was just after Israel released several hundred Palestinian terrorists. Under pressure from the “Your either on our side or the terrorists’ side” American President, Israel gave terrorists the Israeli Texas, Arizona, and California. With nothing in return.
Now, the Ehud Olmert Israeli government is in the process of violently expelling its own citizens from West Bank towns, giving those to the Palestinians also. The Israeli Detroit, Chicago, Boise, and Seattle. (Well, they can have Seattle.) Soon, Jews will no longer be able to visit Ma’arat HaMachpelah, the cave in which Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph are buried–one of the holiest Jewish sites. There is no American equivalent for that. Or anywhere else on earth.

Murdered by HAMAS: Eliyahu Asheri, Z”L (Blessed Be His Memory)
It should not shock anyone that Palestinians now use Gaza as a base of attack on Israel. It’s no surprise that they tunneled into Israel (from Gaza) and kidnapped Israeli soldier Shalit. It should be no surprise that yet another young Israeli civilian, Eliyahu Asheri, was brutally murdered, and another–a 62-year-old Israeli civilian, Noah Moskovitch–has been kidnapped.
All by Palestinian terrorists, er . . . government officials. All by Palestinian government terrorists who Israelis–on President Bush’s command with Israeli Prime Ministers’ Sharon and Olmert’s rear-kissing obedience–never served any real, deserved retaliation.
And that is happening even now with Israel’s entrance into Gaza. It is too little, too late. Israel cannot now take back Gaza. The vipers have taken over the snake pit.
True, Israelis are blowing up some bridges. But there are hardly any casualties. There’s nothing on the order of a real War on Terror. Because Israel isn’t allowed to do one. Clueless Condoleeza Rice of the pan-Arabist State Department–with 22 Arab Desk jockeys and countless other Muslim ones–is demanding “restraint” from Israel in seeking to save its own citizens from terrorists. And sadly, Israel is listening.
Don’t look for the well-deserved mass casualties on the Palestinian side. Israel won’t do it. It doesn’t have the guts . . . because it’s U.S. big brother doesn’t have the guts.

Gilad Shalit: Israeli Soldier Kidnapped by HAMAS
Incredibly, Matt Drudge and the Times of London are asking about captured Israeli soldier Shalit, “Will This Man [Shalit] Trigger War in the Middle East?” But Shalit didn’t trigger war in the Mid-East. That’s been going on for decades, even centuries. And he did not kidnap himself and murder his fellow civilians. That was the act of the HAMASastan government. They triggered war in the Mid-East.
America wants Israel to make nice with the snake that has already bitten. The same species of snake that America is fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, and even on American shores.
But no matter how conciliatory you are to the viper, you always feel the puncture of its fangs.

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38 Responses

Churchill, FDR, & Truman must all be spinning in their graves.

Thee_Bruno on June 29, 2006 at 9:36 am

Who are these ‘conservatives’ that keep promoting Dhimmi Rice as a Presidential candidate?

John Sobieski on June 29, 2006 at 10:10 am

Thank you for posting the photograph of murder victim Eliayahu Asheri. He could be my son! We are blessed to live in the United States where our enemies are not murdering our children as they are in Israel. If we don’t support Israel we will be held to account by a God who is just.

Jim_L on June 29, 2006 at 10:17 am

I shake my head in wonder that after all these years government officials from any civilized nation would still be stupid enough to negotiate with terrorists. Those who have a clue know that the only way to deal with terrorists is to kill them when you can.

Rocky on June 29, 2006 at 10:19 am

Perhaps US and Israeli governments should be reminded of the old saw, “Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me 900 times…

bison68 on June 29, 2006 at 11:04 am

Where did that photo of the cat and the cobra come from? That’s a little disconcerning. Is that some sick person killing cats or another twisted photograph of two backward animals being “best of friends”?
Another way to look at these off balance prisoner exchanges…Isnt it funny how the Palestinians value 300 palestinian prisoners (or rather bombers) as an even exchange for 3 dead israeli soldiers?
I remember reading other exchanges where 2-3 Israelis are released in exchange for a hundred or more Palestinians. This is the “exchange rate” the palestinians seem to accept.
This places a pretty low value on their lives…

Avatar on June 29, 2006 at 11:04 am

That 62 year old man was not kidnapped. His body has been found in his hometown and he died of natural causes. The Palis found his name out on the Internet and that he was missing and decided to play cruel games. Believe it or not Palis do lie.
NOtice how they refer to the young man murdered as a “settler?” They want to dehumanize him.

Ripper on June 29, 2006 at 1:44 pm

Arm chair 1/4 backs.If little israel had to wait for you keyboard goof’s.

danny on June 29, 2006 at 6:13 pm

con’t from my above post. ‘She’d would be dead’.

danny on June 29, 2006 at 6:22 pm

There is still no such thing as a ‘Palestinian’. A big part of this problem lies in this fact. Contrary to popular (ignorant) belief, Israel (or the Jews, or the Zionists if you prefer) did not steal any land from the arabs. If you check your middle east history, you will find that this land was BOUGHT by Jews from the Turks who owned all the land. I served in the IDF., and I can verify that a good arab is dead arab. Screw all the “armchair quarter-backs” (nice one, Danny) and namby-pambies who cry for “innocent” rock-throwing kids, who are all just trainee terrorists. While I’m at it – stop calling them ‘insurgients”. Bullshit! Repeat after me, “TERRORIST”.
Left wing is OK, but extreme left is at least useless, and at worst dangerous.

F5Mando on June 29, 2006 at 6:50 pm

F5Mando;Nahal-Oz since 1972.Debbie’sa Kahana cool

danny on June 29, 2006 at 7:02 pm

Mr Bush stop trembling, and let ISRAEL choose the necessary path to FULLY defend itself.
Yes AMERICA needs to stop counseling Israel to limit her response to Arab aggression. CíMON AMERICAÖlook how YOU responded to 9/11! The whole world was shut down for weeks! And the world has been different ever since~
And that response was ABSOLUTELY necessary!
The ìTake NO Chancesî campaign!
So STOP asking Israel to take chances.
Canadaís former PM, the late, GREAT, Pierre Elliot Trudeau, was confronted by a ìbleeding heartî CBC reporter concerned about the deployment of Canadian troops around the Ottawa Parliament Buildings during the OCTOBER CRISIS and wanted to know how far our PM was willing to go.
Remember, this was at the height of FLQ terrorism against Canada in 1970Ö
Well that reporter was denounced with typical Trudeau contemptÖand his ìJust watch meÖî warning.
Just watch me.
Just watch Israelñ
I hope ISRAEL does respond!
The sooner we ALL start dismantling ISLAM, the better for OUR world. We may actually find peace on earth!
BUT not before!!
Former Canadian PM Brian Mulroney stated it best when he said THIS about Israel in 1993:
ìIn 1993, I was the first foreign leader invited to meet with President Clinton. At a joint news conference we were asked about the peace process. I said: “I’m always very concerned when people start to lecture Israel on the manner in which it looks after its own internal security, because for very important historical reasons, Israel is of course better qualified than most to make determinations about its own well-being.”
And in 2003, the same former Canadian PM Brian Mulroney also said of the Holocaust:
Why, I asked myself, would such evil be visited upon anyone, and specifically the families of this vibrant community I was getting to know? The Jews of Montreal were remarkable. Families were close, values were taught, education was revered, work was honoured and success was expected. How could it be, I often wondered, that the progenitors of people demonstrably making such a powerful contribution to the economic, cultural and political life of Montreal and Canada were reviled over centuries and decimated in a six-year period, beginning in the year of my birth?
Does AMERICA or the WORLD expect the Jews to endure yet ANOTHER HolocaustÖthis time at the hands of Arabs???
Are we telling Israel not to fight BECAUSE we are afraid to fight another World War and because some of the big players might take sides?
After the Vietnam War I remember a North Vietnamese general was interviewed by the CBC.
This general laughingly stated that HIS COUNTRY beat America because ìwe were willing to fight a 30 year war and WE KNEW America didnít have the stomach for that”~
So AMERICA if you do not have the stomach for a 30-year warÖor a Middle-East warÖstand downÖand step aside.
And just watch.
Because ISREAL is MORE THAN ready to defend herself~~

The Canadien on June 29, 2006 at 9:02 pm

I know with all my heart that if it wasn’t for america there would be no Israel,just something I had to say

danny on June 29, 2006 at 9:17 pm

Friends of Israel, there is so much going on behind the scenes that we must grasp the larger picture if we are to make sense of the smaller details and daily events in Israel.
There is a spiritually demonic plan, aided by SStateDept individuals including Bush, to bring about a Final Holocaust upon the Jewish people, as an increasingly smaller and squeezed Israel is being replicated into a walled Warsaw for the final assault upon the Jews.
That may shock some of you, but the evidence is clearly there and biblical truths/prophecies combined with the on-going ‘Roadmap’ plot bare this out. You’ll never understand what’s happening until you understand (and believe) the numerous biblical prophecies that detail what is coming upon the Jewish people. Then you can easily fit daily events into the wider picture and understand what is truly going on.
Lucifer has always hated the Chosen people which explains why the Jews have been relentlessly targeted by wicked nations and evil men for 6000 years. He works through all godless men to produce his wickedness. Through the Jews, God brought us the prophets, patriarchs and the great men and women of the Bible, which of course, has been a bane to Lucifer.
This ‘roadmap’ plot is designed to leave Israel practically defenseless by reducing Israel’s land borders to undefendable borders. Five Arab wars against Israel in 60 years have all failed to destroy the tiny Jewish state, but the ‘roadmap’ plot is designed to finish off Israel.
The ‘SS’tateDept is a haven for Jesuit-trained (Vatican) atheists, Marxists, pedophiles, new world order operatives (CFR) and godless secular humanists. There is no doubt that they are doing the bidding for powers and forces that want to destroy the Jews.
Ask yourself, why the ‘SS’tateDept employed Marxists such as Alger Hiss and why dozens of other Marxists were allowed to remain there for decades? Ask yourself why a boat loaded with hundreds of European Jews fleeing Hitler’s Germany were denied entry due to the ‘SS’tateDept’s meddling?
Did you know that the Vatican is quietly buying up various ‘holy land’ sites in Jerusalem and it is no coincidence that key SStateDept bureaucrats (Wm Burns) answer to their Vatican handlers and do everything possible to aid the Arabs in their goal of destroying Israel.
May God’s Genesis 12 curse be upon all of the Jew-hating bureaucrats and their family members who are working to destroy Israel.

joemccarthy on June 29, 2006 at 9:52 pm

John S – Who are these “conservatives” touting Dhimmi Rice? Probably the same ones all fired up about Roberts because he was “pro-life”. I wish the bastard were pro “my life”. All he’s doing is occupying the same chair as Sandra Day O’commie. Yeah, everybody feel warm and fuzzy because he says he’s pro-life, or anti-abortion, or whatever, and the first thing he does is spits in the face of the president and the military. Well, welcome to Liberalville! I know that joemccarthy is right. I’ve been denying it for years, but he must be right. How else can Bush, Rice et al push such policies except they be deceived (to say the least), or inspired (to say the most) by Satan himself?

CornCoLeo on June 29, 2006 at 11:36 pm

I agree with most of the content of the article and understand the emotion of the posters. Consider this. Israel pretty much does whatever the hell they want when their backs are against the wall despite what the US says. We don’t pull their strings nor should we. We just have to make it look good by asking for “restraint”. It’s just the usual diplomatic bullshit.
Israel, being a modern country with modern values has to take the high road and not stoop to the level of the Muslim savages. If they did they would simply kill every living thing in Gaza.
Neither the Palestinians nor the Arabs will ever “wipe Israel off the map”. That is just hollow boasting. They will simply continue to sting them with bombings, kidnappings and rocks because that is all they can do. Israel should continue it’s program of measured responses since that is really the only thing they can do until some sense comes over the Muslim world. For right now I would freeze the evacuation of the settlements.

Samoyed on June 30, 2006 at 3:51 am

I don’t know about the rest of the readers here but I cringe when I see the symbology of the SS applied to an American governmental office. Any individuals within those offices who aid and abet terrorism against Israel should be sought out and dealt with accordingly (Debbie does a terrific job of this all by her self). The symbology bothers me though because thousands of Americans and her Allies gave their lives to rid the world of such evil. It seems to dishonor their memories to have it attached to anything American. It’s kind of like the “AmeriKKKa” we used to see here.
Having said that, I know their are millions of Americans, myself included, that consider any threat to Israel as a threat to all of us. It’s way past time for Christians (Protestants and Catholics) and Jews to stand together against a common enemy. As I understand it, they should anyway since Christians are a vine grafted into the tree (through belief, and consequently, salvation) via the Jewish people.
Israel should have every right to defend herself from those who attack her just as any other sovereign nation would. It is very frustrating when some of our political leaders don’t seem to agree with that. The simple truth is that appeasement to the terrorists, whatever their stripe, will not work. We’ve seen that over and over again in Israel, Europe, and most recently with the be-heading of a Russian. The only way they can be dealt with is through brute force. They themselves insist on that. I suggest Israel, the U.S., and Allies do so while they still can.
That’s my $0.02

Marcubius on June 30, 2006 at 6:18 am

Don’t look for the well-deserved mass casualties on the Palestinian side. Israel won’t do it. It doesn’t have the guts . . . because it’s U.S. big brother doesn’t have the guts.
Sometimes, I wonder if U.S. is a “friend” of Israel, it claims to be. Friends don’t let friends get slaughtered.

Alert on June 30, 2006 at 7:34 am

Yes, Alert, and that begs the question: What can we do from here? We can do what Debbie does –expose those who render aid to our enemies and make people aware of them. And we can act as a large voting bloc to elect people to office who share our views. The people in Israel should do the same.

Marcubius on June 30, 2006 at 7:53 am

Mucas;Tring to say this S.S. guy and the “AmericaKKK” are equal? .The “AmericaKKK” guy loves Israel and the jews more than all of us put togrther.

danny on June 30, 2006 at 8:35 pm

Marcubious said, “I don’t know about the rest of the readers here but I cringe when I see the symbology of the SS applied to an American governmental office.”
Sorry friend, but you need to do your homework regarding the history of the ‘SS’tateDept, and then perhaps you’ll understand why I label them as I do. Why you would defend an agency that harbors Marxists, globalists, Nazis and secular humanists, is evidence that you need to come out of your coma and seek the truth.
If you are a Christian who believes in the Bible, then you should know that God entered into an ETERNAL land deed, made in blood, with the Jewish people in Genesis 15 re: the true borders of Israel. (You should read it.) God doesn’t break His word or His covenants EVER!
God’s eternal land covenant with Israel is still in force even though Israel does not currently have the land borders that God defined. Doesn’t matter, His covenant is NOT to be messed with. Read Joel 3:2 to see what happens to men and nations who “divided my (God’s) land.” Bush is going to stand before the Creator in a special judgment for his plot to “divide” the land of Israel.
And please don’t defend Bush’s alleged ‘christianity.’ This is a man who says he prays to “the same god that the Muslims do.” This is a man who also said, “God told me to create a nation for the Palestinians.” Really? By carving it from God’s own eternal covenant? Then I guess God changed His mind and broke His own word which proves that Bush is insane and probably hearing from Lucifer! Bush’s own words convict him–he is not praying to the God of the Bible who entered into an eternal land covenant with the Jews.
Bush has fooled so many Christians for so long that Jesus words from Matthew 24 come to mind: BE NOT DECEIVED! BE NOT DECEIVED! BE NOT DECEIVED! He said this 3 times in one chapter re: those who would attempt to ‘deceive’ people by saying they were followers of Christ and that they were doing His will. If you don’t know the Scripture like the back of your hand, you will BE DECEIVED!
Bush & his ‘SS’tateDept’s next goal is to drive the Jews out of Judea and Samaria. The ‘roadmap’ will confine the Jews to an indefensible area that cannot be defended and from which the Arabs can over-run them. Five Arab wars against the Jews in 60 years were all disasters for the Arabs, but the roadmap is a plot for the final destruction.
I assure you, it will eventually lead to the 2nd Holocaust.

joemccarthy on June 30, 2006 at 11:21 pm

I am as frustrated as you are by Israel’s failure to wipe these terrorists and their families (accomplices) off the face of the earth. I am also disturbed by the US’s failure to do the same. I am unhappy that our State Department is a haven for left-wing lunatics, elitists, and is every bit as anti-American as Osama bin Laden and his ilk.
I hope that Israel will wake up and smell the coffee–as did much of the American public and begin to crack down on their idiot politicians who betray them into the hands of their enemies because they are too stupid to realize that Islam is for terrorists, dictators, and complete morons and needs to be completely destroyed.
I couldn’t access Danny’s comments so I cannot comment on what seems to be inane. But if I could….

Loser on June 30, 2006 at 11:52 pm

So dammy thinks AmericaKKK guy loves Israel more than all of us? Why don’t we take a look at the archives here to see what the brutha really loved. Between trashin’ the white man at every opportunity and constantly talkin’ about “doin'” DS and her tits saggin’ and ON and ON with the perv talk, he did manage to speak about Israel. Is Israel what he was really interested in? Nah, he likes makin’ bitches and hos out of us white women. Has an orgasm at his keyboard when he thinks he can turn white women against white men. That’s what he’s about. Throw a bone to DS about Israel so he can keep up his filth for everyone here to see. That’s how MUCH he luvs Israel. I’ll bet he’s at his keyboard now masterbating. Check out the archives and get a clue.

Julia on July 1, 2006 at 1:56 am

joemccarthy? passin’ out tracts with that trash the U.S. talk?

Julia on July 1, 2006 at 1:59 am

Oops! My post on 29th ripped Supreme court pretty well, especially Roberts, but Roberts didn’t vote. One article I read cited Scalia, Thomas, and Alito as dissenters so I assumed that Roberts had joined the other side, and you know what they say about ASSuming stuff. Still, the way this country is going about things in war-time is insane. Insane policies on our part, and insane acquiesence on Israel’s.

CornCoLeo on July 1, 2006 at 12:08 pm

Hey Israel, bomb the shit out of the Middle east.

KOAJaps on July 1, 2006 at 2:49 pm

I stand by my statement.Julia “stick with things you think you know”

danny on July 1, 2006 at 7:16 pm

I know more than you think. Mucas is Jewish. Fool.

Julia on July 1, 2006 at 10:15 pm

SO:Julia(abused catholic+mucus a jew)so fight for each other.”MUD FINDES IT”S LOW POINT”.

danny on July 2, 2006 at 2:14 am

all of you ‘loser’s et all:Like little israel’s life and death problem’s are a fu..ing arcade game for you all.

danny on July 2, 2006 at 2:23 am

No, not a game. But what does a woman who is nearly 40 have in common with a hip-hopper wannabe (Woody Allen does gangsta rap) who wants to see DS in a porno movie? Many people read this site including your Dad. What do they think of MM? Growin’ old by yourself ain’t what its cracked up to be. Your frens ain’t who you think they are.

Julia on July 2, 2006 at 3:54 am

Instead, he’s handsome, your own age, wealthy, and cares for you. FOR YOU and Israel. But you stand by your statement and someone you will never meet. The little boy from NY.

Julia on July 2, 2006 at 4:00 am

JULIA:YOU’RE a dime a dozen

danny on July 2, 2006 at 4:08 am

GAZA(AZA):now we’re cooking with gas.

danny on July 2, 2006 at 6:22 pm

And the assholes at the U.N., and the anti-semitic shitbags called Bilderbergs

KOAJaps on July 3, 2006 at 1:22 am

To a fault America +Israel have the most moral military in the world.

danny on July 3, 2006 at 6:40 pm

If were up to me, I would nuke these idiots and let them know we are not putting up with their BS any longer. We need to start fighting wars with force not PC military actions that are a joke and illustrate to the world we have no cajones.
Israel needs to tell the US state dept to take a flying leap.
The poster that said the State has been taken over is exactly right.

ScottyDog on July 18, 2006 at 3:04 pm

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