March 14, 2011, - 3:39 pm

Which Response to Fogel Family Massacre is Sicker, HAMAS’ or Wall St Journal’s?

By Debbie Schlussel

A Jewish family, including three young children, is stabbed to death by Palestinians, and the Wall Street Journal is worried about “violent Jewish vigilantes” against the Palestinians.

I expected the Palestinian Muslims to celebrate the massacre of the Fogel family–including a 3-month-old baby–while they slept.  This is what Muslims do around the world, just as the Palestinians did to celebrate the 9/11 Muslim mass murders of 3,000 Americans.  It’s the same thing all over again:  passing out candy to celebrate the big kill.  I wouldn’t expect anything different from the Muslim [lack of] civilization.  But what I didn’t expect was that the Wall Street Journal would do something about as bad, especially when you consider the source.

While Palestinians Celebrate Stabbing Massacre of Jewish Family . . .


Palestinians Pass Out Candy to Celebrate Fogel Family Massacre (Left), Just Like They Did After 9/11 Attacks (Right)

. . . Wall Street Journal Worries About “Jewish Vigilantes” Against Palestinian “Victims” . . .

Today’s Wall Street Journal report on the attacks includes the left-wing (and apparently self-hating) Jewish reporter, Joshua Mitnick’s worries–not about the Jews who are subject to violent slaughter and butchery, but that these Jews will be the “violent” ones.  Um, did this weekend’s slaying of the Fogel family not demonstrate who are the violent aggressors and who are their victims?  Apparently not to Mitnick, whose “reporting” is rarely different from the New York Times’ Mid-East coverage and who frequently inserts this kind of opinion and BS into his reports.  And that would explain why he was previously a welcomed “reporter” for the blatantly anti-Israel Christian Science Monitor.  Yesterday, this urinalist wrote:

The targeting of an area of Jewish settlers known for vigilantism against Palestinians also threatens to trigger an upsurge in violence.

Get it?  It’s not that the Jews were murdered in cold blood, including a baby and two other young kids, while they slept.  It’s that these Jews are  “violent vigilantes,” who constitute the “real threat”:  violence against the Palestinians.  Yes, the Palestinians–who murdered this family and celebrate that murder throughout Gaza and elsewhere–are the real victims, the real victims of violence from the real perpetrators, the JOOOS.  That’s this jerk Mitnick’s point.

That sentence appears in Mitnick’s article in today’s print edition of the Wall Street Journal.  What doesn’t appear online is the second part of the sentence, which is in the print edition, as well:

and police forces stepped up their presence on West Bank roads to prevent Arab-Jewish flare-ups as Israeli mourners from the funeral made their way home to the settlements.

Yup, this Mitnick cretin-owitz  loves the moral equivalency stuff.  “Arab-Jewish flare-ups?”  Get it?–both sides are morally equivalent, and the “Israeli mourners”–Udi Fogel’s grieving father, who must bury his 36-year-old son and grandchildren, including a 3-month-old baby–they are the ones who post the danger of “flare-ups” to the Palestinians, who stab them to death in their sleep.

The fact is that most of these settlers are peaceful, hard-working, dedicated people who risk their lives to live there.  They wouldn’t harm a fly.  And that’s the problem.  For all of Mitnick’s propagation of the Palestinian myth that they are vigilantes who deserve murder in their sleep, it’s not that they aren’t vigilante enough.  It’s that they aren’t vigilantes at all.

And that’s a big part of the problem.  The Jews give the Palestinians peace, the Palestinians brutally take their lives.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Joshua Mitnick:  that’s Wall Street Journal Yiddish for “Whatta schmuck!” On the other hand, since the paper is owned in large part by Saudi Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal, a proud donor to Palestinian terrorism telethons, perhaps it’s the new Arabic for “useful idiot infidel evil Zionist moron.” As you know, that’s why I call the newspaper “PAWN”–Prince Al-Waleed’s Newspaper.

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52 Responses

A Jewish anti-Semite. It confirms what Isaiah says about your destroyers coming from within.

And you can always blame everything on the Jews for not doing what the world wants, for being stiff-necked. for being vigilant in guarding their lives, etc.

The biggest obscenity is the world’s obsession with so-called Jewish “price tag” actions. Sure – people are angry – justifiably so. But they haven’t gone out to the village the murderers came from and wiped them out to the last child even though that is exactly what the Jews’ biblical ancestors did to Shechem when he and his townsmen raped Dinah. That used to be the way justice was administered in the ancient Middle East.

But no one will ever give the Jews credit for showing restrained and displaying superhuman civilized forbearance in the face of such wanton savagery. We certainly don’t see it from Joshua Mitnick’s pro-Palestinian Arab propaganda whitewash today.

NormanF on March 14, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Hi NormanF, there’s something in the Talmud about the handle of the ax coming from the forest which the ax will chop down. I think Marx updated that with ropes, capitalists selling of…

    Re biblical vengeance; apparently the Vikings had a similar policy – no leaving anyone alive to carry on vendettas Mafia-style.

    Nir Leiu on March 14, 2011 at 4:30 pm

      Yes, Nir. One of my favourite tag-lines…

      “Why The Tree Loves The Ax”.

      Skunky on March 14, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      That is a large part of the problem. The Muslims for year have been pulling this (like the killing of American diplomat in the area in the early 70’s and then parading their killers in New York at the U.N.) the only response to this is the old way why? because doing nothing empowers these idiots (Muslims) react once in a purifying manner with these barbarians and it will stop giving candy out to celebrate this kind of thing with out response is nice (we are above doing anything) but, doesnt give any kind of positive result that it will not happen again. Wipe out that village take back the land won in the wars being nice to these people (Muslims) only seems to encourage this type of behaviour.

      Jonathan Gartner on March 16, 2011 at 12:51 pm

Debbie – I am surprised that you are surprised. The Wall Street Journal is owned by that same schmuck who had Guliani throw back his donation after 9/11. The guy for whom you now call FOX News the “PAWNN”–the Prince Al-Waleed News Network”

IAM: Yup, I know. Am not surprised. Was gonna mention, but the Jewish reporter is even sicker. Will add. As you know, I call the WSJ “PAWN”- Prince Al-Waleed’s Newspaper. DS

I_AM_ME on March 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm

I AM, correct. Prince Al-Waleed does sign Mitnick’s paycheck.

I am not surprised by this story.

NormanF on March 14, 2011 at 4:08 pm

I have to point out to Debbie they are not self-hating Jews.

Jews can be and are anti-Semites. You only have to look at the leftist and anti-Zionist websites to see that is exactly the case.

Jews can hate Jews just as much as non-Jews do. Think Robert Novak.

NormanF on March 14, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Robert Novak was only born a Jew. He rejected his birth religion, and after a while, converted to Catholicism. Hence, his wide spread acceptance in the corridors of power, even though he was one of the nastiest individuals ever to walk the streets of our city.

    Jonathan Grant on March 14, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    And George Soros – but in the end Hitler will still come after them!

    Bill C. on March 15, 2011 at 1:13 pm

There is a famous study that argues that the Wall Street Journal’s news page is the most liberal of the major newspapers (even though it’s editorial page is the most conservative). That explains this disgusting coverage.

Ari on March 14, 2011 at 4:18 pm

What’s not widely reported is that the Fogel family were evacuated from Gaza in 2005 along with 8,000 other Jews, giving the Palestinians the opportunity to show what they could do with no Jews around to blame for their problems. (We all know how that’s turned out.)

The Fogels spent the subsequent years trying to build a new life elsewhere, only to have it ended in Itamar. The morale is that one cannot “concede” your way to peace with savages. Your gestures are only taken for weakness and invite more aggression.

Raymond in DC on March 14, 2011 at 4:55 pm

Fusing sand at high temperatures might work as a reponse. Pity the US President is a vicious antisemite.

Occam's Tool on March 14, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Sorry, response.

Occam's Tool on March 14, 2011 at 4:59 pm

Oh, and the fact that NO retaliatory violence has happened to avenge the slaughter has happened yet makes it especially rich.

Meanwhile, dirty, filthy Palestinian Pig still slughtered a whole family.

If you are on the Palestinian side, you’re mentally ill or a sociopath.

Skunky on March 14, 2011 at 5:21 pm

I’m a longtime subscriber to the WSJ, but the Israel articles have been getting progressively worse — and Mitnick is the source of almost all the bad ones. Reading the piece you cited infuriated me. Just finished today’s paper and it’s even worse — there’s a piece (again, from Mitnick) talking about how Israel expanded “settlements” in “response” to the killing, and how this will likely derail the peace process. There’s lengthy discussion of the alleged lockdown on the Palestinians as the Israelis looked for the killers and how upset they are about the “settlements” – barely two words about the five innocent people who were brutally slaughtered in their beds for the heinous crime of being Jewish and living in Israel.

Faye on March 14, 2011 at 6:07 pm

Mitnick…..another mediamoron. Doesn’t he realize that he would be among the first to get his throat slit by the muslims? Does he believe that the alligator will eat him last because he plays nice-nice with the muslims in his writings? His “Cover” as A Jew hating “Jew” will not help him. I often wonder what people like Mitnick would do (And say) if a member of his family was murdered by a follower of the, “Religion of peace.” Interesting question. I have a feeling that moral relativism would not apply in this (His) case.

Of great concern….No comment from our partying president on the murders of the Missionaries on the sailboat by “Pirates,” our brave soldiers murdered on the bus in Germany by a muslim and NO comment on this horrendous murder in Israel. Too busy with important things… golf, basketball,and parties.

Herbster on March 14, 2011 at 6:49 pm

To those that believe no cultures, religions, societies, etc. are morally better or morally worse than others, please answer the following question:

1. How can we fault the people who killed innocent children and parents as they slept when the Muslims who did this were merely following the advice of their holy book the Koran?

Koran Chapter 7 Al-Araf – The Heights, Verse 97: What! Do the people of the towns then feel secure from Our (not sic) punishment coming to them by night while they sleep?

/Evil sickens me. Islam is evil. Islam sickens me. Like all non-Muslims, our existence is a capital offense.

Jew Lover on March 14, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Not all Israel haters are on the left. Paul Craig Roberts, for example, hates Israel with a total passion. It comes out in almost every column of his.

Seek on March 14, 2011 at 7:08 pm

What is never pointed out by the “Arabs-fear-retaliatory-attacks” crowd is that if such were indeed the case, the arab communities and their spokesjerks would be the first to feverishly denounce such crimes. But they never do. They know nothing will happen to them, certainly not in this country. They are free to sit back and relish the crimes of their co-religionists while nothing ever happens to them. As Mark Steyn as pointed out, the Islamites have figured out the game (it’s not that hard to do, actually) and can be said to have assimilated into American Left-Liberal culture with remarkable speed.

J'Kel on March 14, 2011 at 7:08 pm

>Not all Israel haters are on the left. Paul Craig Roberts, for example, hates Israel with a total passion.

When I read the man some years ago, he came off with a strong leftist vibe, a complete in-your-face jerk. I never saw him as a conservative at all; that he worked for the Reagan administration means nothing. Many leftists/america/Israel haters did. Understandably they kept such attitudes quiet during their employment period. But they got their jobs through various beltway good-old-boy networks and would only lose such positions to people even worse when the democrats took over. This is a fact of life in American politics and is why the smaller the government, the better.

J'Kel on March 14, 2011 at 7:27 pm

Everyone of you who is a friend of Israel really needs to get behind Allen West for a Presidential run for the White House in 2012.
He is Congressman from District 22 (I believe) in South Florida.

I am deeply concerned that he is the only hope for America and Israel and quite frankly, the non-left, non-muzzie world.

I am normally not involved in politics although I will do whatever it takes to help this man make it to the White House. If I have to stand of f-cking street corner holding signs, I will.

If you do not believe me, please go to and type in “Allen West Israel” and you will see what I mean.

He is the real deal and I promise you that you will not be sorry.
He needs to support of every level headed person in this country and that starts with every one of you on Debbies site.

If I have to get on this message board every day and post this, I will but I encourage you to check this guy out because he is gaining major momentum and people are literally begging him to run for President.

Allen West for President 2012.

Stephen on March 14, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Yes, Stephen – Allen West is exactly who we need as our President, and I would campaign for him also! He loves our country and completely understands the threat we face and wouldn’t hesitate to deal with it. Thanks for getting the word out about him.

    My heart goes out to the Fogel family survivors and the whole Jewish community. I was so inspired by the response from the surviving 12 year old daughter… God truly dwells in her. I am Catholic and will continue to pray for and keep a candle lit in their memory. May God Bless the surviving children and other family members and provide all the love and support they need in the years ahead.

    Richelle on March 18, 2011 at 10:36 pm


Bill C. on March 14, 2011 at 10:24 pm


IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz spoke about the Itamar killings on Monday during a meeting of the top IDF command and said that he was deeply shaken by what he saw inside the Fogel house.

“I went into the house and could not find a connection between the murderers and what it means to be human,” Gantz said. “I have seen many things in my life but I have never encountered such inhumanity.”

Bill C. on March 14, 2011 at 11:12 pm

Ok, either they trotted out the same woman in the same outfit, same scarf, same eyeglasses, as they did for the 9/11 pics of Arabs dancing around and handing out candy OR the woman in the pic above hasnt changed her clothing or anything else in 10 years, and hasnt aged a bit.

ITS THE SAME WOMAN. This pic is of after 9/11, not after the Itamar massacre the other night.

J: It is, indeed, the same woman same pic, and I was not trying to present otherwise. If you’ll note the caption, I wrote that the guy on the left (from 2011) is passing out candy in celebration of the Fogel family massacre, just like the woman on the right did to celebrate the 9/11 attacks (in 2011). Have clarified the caption b/c you were confused. Next time, please read more closely. Thanks. DS

Julia on March 15, 2011 at 12:51 am

Ah, I see it now. I failed to see that it was two different pics actually, the delineation between the two wasnt clear. Must be my eyes, Im getting older. Thanks for the clarification, and a great example at that! Makes much more sense now.

Julia on March 15, 2011 at 3:37 am

Let’s call Joshua Mitnick exactly for what he is: A RACE TRAITOR!

The Reverend Jacques on March 15, 2011 at 8:52 am

WRT to that last comment – it’s a tad too harsh, but apparently the man never spent enough time in Israel to appreciate the gravity of the situation.

Naivety, cowardice, stupidity, treason, desertion – if we are at war, why aren’t these words being used?

The Reverend Jacques on March 15, 2011 at 8:57 am

The human race has always had sociopathic killers hidden in its midst. But when an entire group of people hand out candy to celebrate the murder of a three month baby……………….I really cannot come up with the words to describe how depraved that is.

Tanstaafl on March 15, 2011 at 11:12 am

Debbie –

Don’t even bother to catch the perpetrators. Get their “money man” – strap him in a suicide vest and trigger him off with a recording of the event uploaded to youtube.

Dr. Shalit

Dr. Shalit on March 15, 2011 at 11:47 am

shhhh…..don’t let this derail the “piss process.”

Not Ovenready on March 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm

Man, the WSJ used to be such a good paper… Sadly, Newscorp owns it now and the Saudis run Newscorp so this is to be expected.

Pauley D on March 15, 2011 at 1:11 pm

LA Times, contends that the brutal murder of the Fogel family are part of an ongoing “cycle of violence”:

We’re currently witnessing the cycle in real time. On Saturday, five members of an Israeli family living in the West Bank settlement of Itamar, near the Palestinian city of Nablus, were killed, including an 11-year-old boy, a 4-year-old boy and an infant girl, presumably by Palestinian militants. In response to this brutal tragedy, the Israeli government announced that it would build 500 more houses in existing settlements in the West Bank. Interior Minister Eli Yishai said Sunday that 500 was not enough and that Israel should build 1,000 new homes for every Israeli who is killed there.

Which is worse — stabbing children to death or building new houses in West Bank settlements? The answer is obvious. But that’s not the point. The point is that no matter how abhorrent the murders are, it serves no purpose to aggravate the provocation that led to them in the first place.

Bill C. on March 15, 2011 at 1:11 pm

The religion of peace.Islam………….nothing like celebrating with a candy bar after you’ve killed a baby…….these people are sick

George on March 15, 2011 at 1:12 pm

arabs and muslims are not sick. they are scum of the earth. they are feces.

Bill C. on March 15, 2011 at 1:19 pm

Todah for posting this, dear Debbie…

hadassa-bee on March 15, 2011 at 4:39 pm

And indeed, Mitnick, another schmuck!!!!!!!! And a big one!!!!!

hadassa-bee on March 15, 2011 at 4:43 pm

I converted to Islam when I finally understood there will be no freedom on this earth until the US and its instruments disappear.
I live in one of the countries who supported the interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan all the way and still supporting today.
And when I tried to find a job in my country, I was offered 300-400$ for the work that in the US or France or Germany I would earn 10 times more.
Do you think you are masters of slaves on this earth? Sooner or later the muslims are gonna cut your throats and destroy the prison that your multinational companies transformed this earth into.
I was Christian-Orthodox and converted to Islam. I will die for Allah and take in the other world as many of you as I can. How much time do you think you’re gonna fool your slaves and make them to work for free so that you can live your easy lifes?
I will not die until I behead a kuffar and post the video on the internet.

Andy on March 15, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Andy, before you cut our throats, we’ll blow out your brains.

    SpiritOf1683 on March 17, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Hmmm, do you think someone should be alerted about Islam Andy’s comment????

I think he is a prime example of why people hate Islam. The liberal losers should listen to what he is saying. They say these things and then they act.

Karen on March 15, 2011 at 11:43 pm

Congratulations Andy,
You not only prove our point, but you also managed to buy yourself a one way ticket to [blank].

Guess what the [blank] is?

W on March 16, 2011 at 1:31 am

Why does Andy still call himself “Andy?” Isn’t Andrew a Christian name? For a born-again Islamic guy who rhapsodizes over the possibilities of cutting non-Muslim heads off, you’d think by now he would have renamed himself something original…like Muhammud.

Seek on March 16, 2011 at 1:35 pm


i have renamed myself, but only for my brothers. i will use my original name according to circumstances


what do you mean by ‘everyone’? do you think that you americans are everyone on this earth?

let me tell you something: for 1 american that hates Islam, there are 10 other people on this earth who hate the US and its multinational companies.

you know what [still] keeps your country alive? a lack of communication from my brothers. when my brothers will tell the slaves that work for 300$ why their life is so miserable and yours is so beautiful with 4000$ per month and when they will support their affirmations with verses from the Qur’an then America will be gone because the slaves will not work for you anymore and they will all rise and destroy the multinational companies in their countries.

remember what i said now kuffar, cause you will die from your greed and you won’t understand the reason

Andy on March 16, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Oh don’t try to fool yourself. We all really do hate you. I’m Hispanic and the latin countries are everywhere. And we are Christian. so you really do have most of the world against you. But even if we do hate you, we would never stoop down to your evil ways of doing things. I would never kill a child for anything in the world, even Muslim children. That alone shows how different we are. I can not speak for others, but I have morals, and in my religion, all children are sacred.

    Dulce on October 10, 2011 at 12:32 am

And you will die as an idiot for your stupid cause. Yes I am a kuffar and so, so proud to be one 🙂

Karen on March 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm


my warning was general, not personal for you. yes i will die for Allah fighting against the kuffar. and i am proud that i will do so.

Andy on March 16, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Thankyou Andy for exposing yourself to the world as a warning of what to expect from Quran fed vermin. We are wasting our resources in Afghanistan, we need to fumigate your kind right here at home. Unfortunately our so called FBI is infiltrated with your sympathetic co-religionists if you can call your murderous belief a religion.Kiss my Kuffar ass!

    Ron Wolf on January 28, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Andy sez… “I was Christian-Orthodox and converted to Islam. I will die for Allah and take in the other world as many of you as I can. How much time do you think you’re gonna fool your slaves and make them to work for free so that you can live your easy lifes? I will not die until I behead a kuffar and post the video on the internet.”

Don’t you mean “REVERTED to Islam”. Unless, of course if you’re too white or too dark, which, in this case, all that’s left to be done is to blow yourself to bits at the county fair and be a Shaheed.

Can you explain this? “Khaybar, Khaybar…” If you can, I’ll take you seriously. In the meantime, stop being a douche, please. And thank you.

The Reverend Jacques on March 16, 2011 at 10:17 pm

@Andy; You are a typical Muslim subhuman. Islamic beasts will be as successful as the Japanese Kamakazees were in WWII. How do you know there are 72 virgins waiting for you? The Koran says there are 72 virgin donkeys waiting for the martyrs . Enjoy yourself with your fellow beasts.

Chaim on March 17, 2011 at 11:11 pm

The death of children is universally chilling, but when children are targeted it is truly unforgivable, and just like murdering pedophiles swift retaliation to the perpetrators and in this case any of those who support them should be the only reply. Where is Irgun when we need them?

Ron Wolf on January 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm

This is the REAL Jewish agenda:

1914 – Jews -60,000 Arabs – 731,000 – Jews were 8% of the population

NOW – Jews 7,697,600 Arab 5,600,000 – Jews are 72%

And no demands have been made so why do you think it was a kidnapping?????

Claudia L on June 16, 2014 at 11:24 am

Well,this takes the cake for egregious,delusional right wing non-journalism this week. By the way,opposing Israeli occupation does not make you self-hating or an anti-Semite. Keep stirring up hate. Keep reasoning and writing like a five year old.

Tufan on July 23, 2014 at 2:34 pm

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