May 19, 2011, - 2:55 pm

Obama: US Must Be Based on Pre-1492 Borders; Israel is Fall Guy for Osama Killing

By Debbie Schlussel

So Bin Laden finally gets killed, and Barack Hussein Obama, in repenting to the Muslim world for it, makes Israel pay the price.  Yup, it wasn’t Osama Bin Laden who was shot twice by the Navy SEALs.  Ultimately, it was Israel, and Osama is laughing from his watery grave.  Now, he has the last laugh, and his puppet Obama does his bidding.   Yasser Arafat is laughing, too.  Their hard work of mass murder and terrorist attacks finally paid off.  Alhamdillullah [praise allah].



While it was being hyped all week long, I figured that Barack Obama’s “renewed outreach to the Muslim world” would be some sort of recognition of a Palestinian state.  But, instead, it’s far worse.  Today, as you may know, Barack Hussein Obama said Israel must have the same borders it had in 1967, which is not only absurd, it’s a huge national security risk because the borders are indefensible. The pre-1967 borders will put Israel in a position in which it will lose a war. The problem is that Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin Nothingyahu, er . . . Netanyobama, has basically been taking the same position.

I wonder what America would think, if Barack Obama went to some reservation tomorrow and said America will return to 1492 borders–you know, when there was no America and no European/Western presence on the American continent.  It’s a bad analogy, though, because the tiny sliver of land now in Israel was always Jewish land, including the City of David, Jerusalem, which Obama wants to turn over to Islamic terrorists and their “civilian” politicians, now that the merger with the animals of HAMAS is complete.  In contrast, while Jews lived in Israel for thousands of years, we Westerners have been here only a few hundred years.  So time to return to the “Green Line” of 1492.  If only the Indians had used more terrorist tactics, they’d be in a better position with Mr. Obama to get that, today.

The land outside the 1967 borders was always Jewish land.  It includes the Kotel–the Western Wall–part of the holiest site in Judaism for thousands of years.  That’s the real pre-1967 border.  It’s the real pre-1167 border of the Jewish people.  The same goes for cities like Hebron, which contains Ma’arat HaMachpelah, the Cave of the Patriarchs, where the Jewish forefathers are buried after their coffins were brought out of Egypt.

And let’s remember why Israel’s borders were “expanded” in 1967.  Israel’s Arab neighbors instigated war against “the evil Zionists–the JOOOOS.”  And they lost.  That’s the breaks.  When you win a war, your victory includes the spoils of victory.

I have a disturbing pamphlet, “Desecration,” published in November 1967.  It contains photo after photo taken of the destruction of Jewish property, holy sites, graves discovered by Israelis in the lands they liberated and got back when Jordan warred against them in 1967.  It’s disgusting–the many synagogues these Muslim savages destroyed, the graves in which they drilled holes and peed and defecated on Jewish bodies or where the graves were merely empties and the bodies disposed of into the garbage, merely because they are Jewish.

Sadar Khalil, the Jordanian government “caretaker” of the Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives took Jewish  gravestones and built his house and sidewalks out of them.  He also built a mosque on top of some of the Jewish graves and allowed the Intercontinental Hotel to be built atop others (which is why I refuse to stay at any Intercontinental Hotel).  Mr. Khalil invited the Jordanian army to build latrines out of the stolen gravestones at their army camps in Ras El-Azur and on Mount Zion.  The incidents of sacrilege and vandalism of Jewish dead bodies, graves, and religious sites wer legion.  And those are the lands that Barack Hussein Obama has designated as Muslim, once again.

The Tomb of Elazar was destroyed and made into “Awarta” near Shechem (Nablus).  The Jordanian Army used many Jewish tombstones to build walls and sidewalks at its El-Azariya camp.    A Jordanian officer’s house has a series of steps leading up to it, which are all stolen Jewish tombstones.

But Christian sites were desecrated by these Muslims, too.  The Bottom of a wall of a Jordanian Army bunker at Augusta Victoria Hospital on Mount Scopus was made of masonry the Muslims took from monasteries and churches they destroyed.  A wall on Mount Zion was built by Muslims with broken tombstones containing Latin inscriptions.

This is the stuff Muslims–the Muslims Barack Obama wants to give this land to–did when the land was improperly in their possession.  They went to war, and they lost.  No reason to reward their continued massacres of Jewish families while they sleep on the Jewish Sabbath–including a beheading of a baby–with land that isn’t theirs and which they destroyed like wild animals when it was under their control.

But, hey, Bin Laden is dead.  And therefore, to repent to the Muslim world for this act of Western “insolence,” Israel’s head is on the chopping block. In the end, it doesn’t really matter whether or not Obama is a Muslim. He’s doing their bidding. And that’s what counts.

Frankly, killing Osama Bin Laden wasn’t worth killing Israel.  Sorry, Seal Team Six.  You did your job.  Now, your pan-Muslim tuchus-licker “Commander in Chief” is turning it into an act for which America–actually, Israel–must endlessly apologize.

The shouts on the night Osama Bin Laden’s death was announced. The shouts of “USA! USA! USA!” were only half right. The real chant should have been “USA! Israel Must Pay! USA! Israel Must Pay!”

Once again, the Jews are the sacrificial lamb. Alfred Dreyfus is wondering why history keeps repeating itself.

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51 Responses

What else do you expect from the “former” muslim half-breed?

Bill C. on May 19, 2011 at 3:07 pm

As you said, it doesn’t matter whether Obama is a Muslim, since he does their bidding. If he isn’t actually a Muslim, it is sort of like the fellow travelers during the Cold War who did the bidding of the Communists, even if they weren’t card-carrying members of the Communist Party. They still did whatever the Communists wanted. And lots of the fellow-travelers of that era are Muslim fellow-travelers today (e.g. our Secretary of State and lots of ‘graduates’ of the 60s).

Little Al on May 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm

How any left wing group can support a group of people that elected Hamas to represent them is beyond me. Have they not read the Hamas charter? Hamas believes that every bit of land that used to be under Muslim control should be reconquered by Muslims. Have fun you self hating liberal American wanks when gays and women get persecuted under a hamas controlled Palestinian state.

Jonathan on May 19, 2011 at 3:11 pm


Obama also promised millions from IMF to Arab countries. Obama is part of the framing of Strauss-Kahn who was also against IMF bailing out the US banks that Obama did. The EU is demanding the next head be from the EU. USA as was reported last week was at point on defaulting on their debt.

Obama the half-breed will cause a new world war.

Bill C. on May 19, 2011 at 3:14 pm

Israel is indeed surrounded. Now more than ever before. Historically, Muslims conquer a land and then put one of their own as king over the conquered people. Islam accomplished this in the USA without defeating us. Amazing. And Israel will now pay. Our Muslim president will see to it…

PDMac60 on May 19, 2011 at 3:17 pm

Obama then said after 1967 borders re-established, then right of return of “refugees” would be handled. Let me figure this out? 1947 to 2011 equals 64 years – of the 200,000 who ran away after being instructed by the arab army i take it most would be 75 or 85 years old or older if alive but 10 million claim they are palestinian refugees? OBAMA THE FORMER MUSLIM THEN WANTS THEM TO RETURN AND LIKE LAST WEEKEND BUT THIS TIME FOR REAL CHARGE EVERY BORDER OF ISRAEL.

Bill C. on May 19, 2011 at 3:22 pm

All this was extremely predictable wasn’t it? Funny how anyone who predicted this were branded far right fanatics. Or worse yet raaaaaaaacisssssts.

samurai on May 19, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Obama demanding pre-1492 borders – anywhere – wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

Of course, there is a window. He wouldn’t ask for pre-1453… he wouldn’t want to undermine any historical basis for a unified Caliphate in the East, after all.

Brian R. on May 19, 2011 at 3:24 pm

Debbie let’s not forget that near 80% of US Jews elected this stooge for the Jihad. Admittedly Israeli Jews don’t have enough sense in the main to tell this Jew-hater in the White House to get stuffed (Netanyahu is trying to do a tightrope act and it ain’t working). They think we can’t afford to tell the dhimmi Jew-hater in the White House to get stuffed, we can’t afford not to.

I am tired of hearing this blather btw of ‘how can the Left support the jihad against the Jews blabla’. It’s because the Left hate us see? So it makes perfect sense. Why do liberals hate the Jews so much (and not just liberals)? It’s well-known (well among those who know) – the belief that capitalism is a Jewish plot and the Jew is the greedy usurer putting women and children out on the street, while counting his gold. Also the influence of the anti-Semitic Soviet Union on the Western Left during the Cold War. A few other things..

I fear war very shortly. People here are on edge.. It’s just below the surface. Btw George ‘dhimmi’ Bush Jr said the same thing re a state for Hamastan on his last visit to Israel as president and a return to 1967 borders.

Larry in Tel Aviv on May 19, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Samantha Power’s Jew-hating fingerprints are all over this. But, hey, Obama is just a less hysterical version of Powers. He basically believes that the Jews are the root cause of all the trouble in the world. It’s antisemitism pure and simple.

Adam on May 19, 2011 at 3:34 pm

and jews will continue to vote for Barry Hussein Obama. Very sad.

BK on May 19, 2011 at 3:39 pm

Also used the word “occupation.” Funny he never used that word for Osamma Bin Laden and his arab scum “occupying” land in Afgan/Pakiland. Or for all the Euros and half-breed Kenyans “occupying” Native North American Indian land. Are the Arabs living in Israel proper also “occupiers”?

Bill C. on May 19, 2011 at 3:40 pm

Let’s analyze this a deeper, Deb. You keep referring to Israel’s 1967 borders. This is wrong. ISRAEL DID NOT HAVE ANY BORDERS IN 1967, BECAUSE THE ARABS AND THE WORLD REFUSED TO RECOGNIZE ISRAEL PROPER. These were armistice lines, according to the Arabs and the UN. Thus, Israel is under no obligation to return to armistice lines under international law. In fact, the only legal borders Israel has were those drawn in 1920 by the League of Nations, wherein Judea and Samaria, including Jerusalem, are part of Israel.

Additionally, Israel stupidly gave away Gaza and parts of Judea and Samaria, and pulled out of Southern Lebanon. Israel has been under siege from these areas ever since. Why pull out of additional areas that are right next to Israel’s major population centers? More “food” for the terrorists to slaughter?

Jonathan E. Grant on May 19, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    Jon, Israel has tried that experiment ad nauseum, with nothing to show for it.

    You’d think the Stupid Jews would learn.

    But just like their ancestors, they look set to walk into the gas chambers because the world says they must.

    Do Israel’s best and brightest fight that death wish? No, they don’t.

    Danny Danon is one of the few bright exceptions in Israel but I don’t think he has the Prime Minister’s ear.

    In the end, Israel will do what Obama demands. Israelis just cannot think of future without America.

    NormanF on May 19, 2011 at 6:14 pm

Two things strike me:

First: I’m neither Jewish nor Arab, but I remember the 1967 6-Day War and when Israel seized the Golan Heights. They seized it because the Arabs were using the heights to lob missiles into Israel. Since then – and the Yom Kippur War, in 1973, the Israelis seized more land and in subsequent “peace” talks, they’ve returned portions to Arab states in order to appease the Arabs and foster peace.
However, every time they’ve done so, the Arabs just move their missiles and artillery closer to Israel and resume the launches and shelling. This has been what’s happened every single time the Israelis have returned land since 1967. Same old pattern – the Israelis under pressure from us and in good faith – return land. The Arabs move closer and start their same BS.

So – the Israelis are not the “bad guys” here. The Arabs are. The only Arabs who have sincerely sought peace with the Israelis got it: Anwar Sadat and the king of Jordan have both enjoyed peace for decades. It works like this: they don’t screw with Israel – and Israel doesn’t screw with them. IMO, we need to be leaning on the other Arabs to follow the example of Jordan and Egypt. The Israelis have shown they’re more than up to living in peace.

Second: the sooner the U.S. and the world are rid of this amateur socialist in the White House, the better off we’ll all be. This arrogant do-nothing has single-handedly done more to destroy the U.S. economy and world standing than all of our enemies combined. Now he’s trying to make a shambles of the remains of our foreign policy, just as he’s done with the economy. Hopefully the mid-east and rest of the world won’t be taking his direction anytime soon.

GC on May 19, 2011 at 3:45 pm


J. S. on May 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm

This is hardly suprising, but as I told a friend who sent me this article earlier today: the real problem is Netanyahu and his ilk. They’ve been saying basically the same thing as Obama. If they won’t stand up for the Jews, certainly Obama, with his Muslim father and close buddy Reverand Wright, won’t do so.

I do have to say that, nonwithstanding the content of his speech, Obama’s deliberate timing was the epitome of classless, tasteless, insults. He makes this speech right before Netanyahu is supposed to visit the U.S.? What disrespect to the prime minister of one of our (alleged) allies. Contrast that to the fawning, servile flattery he always shows the dictators of the world (bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, yukking it up with Chavez, etc.) . . . disgusting.

Faye on May 19, 2011 at 4:00 pm

Mr. Obama is not so gradually conceding positions to the Islamists at home and abroad. Israel will no longer exist in less than a decade if his policies are pursued. President Obama is just creating a decent interval before he pulls back all support from Israel. Israel needs to decide whether it wishes to live or die at this point, since blindly following Obama’s lead will entail a not so slow death. Our media likes to talk about the Jewish Lobby, but this is more evidence that if it did exist as a substantial force in the past it is virtually absent today.

Worry01 on May 19, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Biblical prophesy suggests Damascus, Syria will be destroyed and “it shall be a ruinous heap” (Damascus is quite possibly the oldest city in the world). I look forward to Israel fulfilling this near future event.

Isa 17:1 “The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from [being] a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.”

Dr Dale on May 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm

I’m glad I was able to visit Israel when I could and I hope to be long dead before this country falls to the likes of BHO.

Road Warrior on May 19, 2011 at 4:12 pm

Pray for Israel. Whoever is against Israel is against God. Obama is very clearly against God with such an absolutely CRAZED desire to kill Israel. A Hamas state is insane. May he will fall in his own trap… I look forward to 2012.

Esther 7:10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows he had prepared for Mordecai.

Genesis 50:20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives.

M-B on May 19, 2011 at 4:12 pm

Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.

The End of Days is near !!!

Repent, I say to a wickedly sinful nation, REPENT and return to the L-rd thy G-d, whose name you are not even worthy to THINK.

We are doomed to Gehenna – L-rd, have mercy on us all !!!

The Rapture Is Nigh on May 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm

Three points. First, why should Israel be forced to give back ANY land? The land was won in wars that the arabs started. Second, Israel isn’t going to go back to the pre ’67 borders. Netanyahu stated today that those borders are not defensible. Third, it won’t matter how much land Israel gives up to the arabs. As long as there is one Jew living in the Middle East (which the arabs regard as “muslim”), the arabs won’t be satisfied. It simply won’t matter. I truly don’t understand how Jews can support Obama. It reminds me of the Jews who weren’t very concerned in Germany in the 1930s when the Nazis were gaining power. It’s time to be concerned because Israel’s future is in jeopardy as a result of the incompetent, anti-semite who is residing in the White House.

Jack Meyhoffer on May 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Oh my goodness, What is happening to America? I love the USA but what have you done? As a brit i am looking in disbelief at what is happening to your country. How have you let this leader come to power? I have a great fear for you. HE will bless those that bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. I fear that maybe the only thing stopping a major judgement on you is about to be removed. Get ready and be prepared.

Alan from Liverpool, UK on May 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Poland is waiting for you guys or Uganda, you are free to choose

Jim on May 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Poland or Uganda? What do you mean Jim?

    Alan from Liverpool, UK on May 19, 2011 at 5:31 pm

My oh my. You guys missed it.

The 1967 borders are perfectly justifiable and Obama is correct to call for them.

The July 1st 1967 borders.

I_AM_ME on May 19, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Would someone answer one question for me, why does any self-respecting Jew vote for Obama?

D. Evans on May 19, 2011 at 5:14 pm


    [“Would someone answer one question for me, why does any self-respecting Jew vote for Obama?”

    D. Evans on May 19, 2011 at 5:14 pm]

    Two possible answers for the 2008 elections:

    1) They think that Obama would somehow be pro-Israel.

    2) They don’t.

    For the 2012 elections, there is only one answer:

    They don’t.

    JeffE on May 19, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    I am mystified why any self respecting Jew, or any one of even remote Jewish heritage, would have voted for BHO. He is no more “Christian” than Charles Manson, and is as much a supporter of Israel as that greasy dirtbag Arafat. This man only wishes to accommodate the muslim world, he does not care about anything else. So sad, to see the views he keeps taking. Please, VOTE THIS MAN OUT in 2012. Then he can watch history from the sidelines and perhaps make a living following his teleprompter around the muslim world giving speeches.

    And a note to the Arab world – YOU started the 1967 war. YOU lost. YOU lost the land. It is YOUR fault. You do NOT get to have the land back. Tough crap. Get over it. Move on. What, you dont have enough countries already? Leave Israel alone.

    Confused on May 20, 2011 at 1:54 pm

The man of lawlessness has just been revealed.

Bill on May 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm

Larry’s comment re Jewish misleaders is very apropos. They are saying that BO is pro-Israel; he just needs to communicate this fact more effectively. Penny Pritzker is already running around lining up tribute, er, contributions from them for his 2012 campaign.

Re pre-1492 borders, I guess he is off to a good start. With the massive illegal immigration he is promoting to this country, it does appear to be his aim to turn our country over to invaders.

Little Al on May 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Israel must go back to the old borders – which were never borders at all, to give a heck of gift to Arabs who hugely admire Bin Laden!

Oh the irony is lost on Obama. Israel’s Leftist elites are urging the country to capitulate. They can’t wait to have the Jewish State turned into an Internet website.

After all, Jew-hating savages MUST get their pound of flesh! Its the way of the world.

NormanF on May 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm

Self-loathing baby boomers and the gen-x/gen-y (children of the dream) minions whose “opinions” they formed are to blame.

DS_ROCKS! on May 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm

GC writes, “The only Arabs who have sincerely sought peace with the Israelis got it: Anwar Sadat and the king of Jordan have both enjoyed peace for decades. It works like this: they don’t screw with Israel – and Israel doesn’t screw with them.”

If by “enjoyed peace” you mean haven’t militarily confronted Israel, yes they’ve had that. But Egypt didn’t “sincerely” seek peace; they wanted the Sinai back. And they haven’t cut back on their military efforts either. But Egypt and Jordan remain among the most anti-Semitic and anti-Israel countries around. The kind of neighborly interaction Israel hoped for never came about. Yes, Israel just wants to be left alone in peace, but its neighbors don’t allow it. What’s Lebanon’s gripe with Israel, for example, that they allowed first the genocidal PLO and now the genocidal Hezbullah to wage war on Israel from their soil?

Indeed, I read the full text of Obama’s speech. I found it rife with naivete and wooden-headedness. Despite all the changes in the regions, despite the challenges and outright refutations of his long-standing assumptions, he’s doubling down on his narratives: that the Arabs want the same things we do, and if they’re upset, then Israel must make bold gestures to advance peace in the region. Heaven help us all.

Raymond in DC on May 19, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Same old wars being fought over again, increases the money made through the “Industrial Military Complex.” Make sure you invest accordingly.

Anthony on May 19, 2011 at 6:46 pm

@Debbie Schlussel
Could you put the pamphlet “Desecration” online? Let the world see what they did then.

Dutch Renitent on May 19, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Obama is laying the ground to go to the UN and become king of the world. He didn’t make this speech arbitrarily. He’s trying to induce all the muslims to begin a final assault on Israel.

David Lanham on May 19, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Whenever I hear the idiotic phrase “two-state solution,” I am reminded of another so-called “solution” – the Final Solution to the Jewish question.

I agree with the President that a State of Palestine should be established in exactly the same place where it existed in 1967. There’s only one problem: there was no “Palestine” then – or ever.

We all know that the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) was being occupied by Jordan, and Gaza by Egypt. Why was there no attempt to establish a “Palestinian state” in those regions then?

And why won’t BHO acknowledge that the PLO was formed in 1964 – three years before there were any “occupied territories”?

And why won’t he mention the Hebron Massacre of 1929 or the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (ym”sh)? Was anti-Semitism in the British Mandate of Palestine the result of “illegal settlements” or “occupied territories”?

Mike on May 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm

Thank you for the post, Debbie, and to everyone who has commented here. This is a sad day, but it’s good to know that we are not alone in our calling a spade a spade in regards to Obama’s speech.

JeffE on May 19, 2011 at 9:38 pm

I didn’t want to give the wrong impression and I wanted to make clear as brilliant as Jews are they try too hard to be liked by those who hate them and who wish to destroy them.

The talk of sanctifying the alleged “1967” borders is an insult to all the Israeli soldiers who died in G-d’s Name to liberate the land of the forefathers of the Jewish people, where much of the Biblical narrative was enacted. I think the Israeli elites owe them a huge apology.

Besides history, there is the fact those lines left Israel exposed with a ten mile wide waist that offered the Arabs repeated opportunities to slice Israel in half. When the late Abba Eban still had his wits about him, he correctly called them, the “Auschwitz lines.” And when you listen to genocidal rhetoric from the Arabs today, I don’t understand why ANY proud Jew would agree to dangerous concessions that would give Israel’s enemies a secure platform from which to destroy the Jewish State.

I don’t really see the point of handing of territory won with much sacrifice over to Arabs sworn to kill every last Jew if they could. I don’t think much of Jews who want to do stupid things. Israel needs a secure future. People forget and this is the bottom line – the Middle East is not the American Midwest. As it goes for Israel, so it goes for all of us in the West.

NormanF on May 19, 2011 at 9:54 pm

Why would this shock anyone that this muslim cleric would say something like this? Don’t you think this is very coincidental that he said this after starting up HIS muslim outreach program? Don’t you think he would do this since he did win the Nobel Piss Prize, which today stands for being either/or anti-Israel, anti-American/capitalism, ardent socialist? I just wondered what took him so long to do this. I do agree that he is vying for the UN presidency. What better organization for this phoney fraud to be a part of, which is made up of dictators, tyrants and thieves. He seems like a perfect fit for this worthless organization.

Pats on May 19, 2011 at 11:28 pm

I suspect that the Antichrist has finally risen once more and is out to get us all.

And I’m not even X-tian. Damn.

Enjoy the Apocalypse.

The Reverend Jacques on May 20, 2011 at 2:05 am

If Obama wants to revert to 1967 borders, then he shouldn’t call for a Pali state @ all – he should ask Jordan to re-possess the West Bank and the Jordanian rulers to be responsible for the security of Jews settled in the area, and he should ask for Egypt to re-possess the Gaza strip. No Palis – after all, there were no Palis then, so if 1967 is going to be the basis of any solution, then the abolition of Palestinians as a separately recognized national entity from Jordanians and Egyptians should go along w/ it.

Infidel Pride on May 20, 2011 at 3:18 am

Seal team six got Osama, but they shoulda have gotten Obama. Someone just missread the orders, because in all honesty, Obama is a bigger threat to America than Osama could ever have hoped to become!

Allen on May 20, 2011 at 5:12 am

I have been worried for weeks about the UN crapola coming up in Sept. and very troubled by the recent State Dept comments but Obama’s statements today have me seeing red.

In an interview with the German Der Spiegel, the late Israeli diplomat Abba Eban, described Israel’s pre-Six-Day War borders as “Auschwitz” lines. Eban, a lifetime dove, vowed:
“With Syrians on the mountain and we in the valley, with the Jordanian army in sight of the sea, with the Egyptians … holding our throat in their hands in Gaza. This is a situation which will never be repeated in history.”

In the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War, after three Arab armies converged on Israel’s nightmarish borders, even the United Nations was forced to recognize that Israel’s pre-1967 Six-Day War borders invited repeated aggression. Thus, UN Resolution 242 – which formed the conceptual foundation for a peace settlement – declares that all states in the region should be guaranteed “safe and secure borders.”

President Lyndon B. Johnson, in an address on September 10, 1968, declared:

“We [The United States] are not the ones to say where other nations should draw the lines between them that will assure each the greatest security.”

“It is clear, however, that a return to the situation of June 4, 1967, will not bring peace. There must be secure and there must be recognized borders.”

NancyB on May 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm

There are lot of reasons for the obsession with 1967. I was five years old then and I don’t really remember much.

But the reasons amount to a desire to please the Arabs, oil money, the declining strength of the West, anti-Semitism and so forth.

What stands out is America cannot even keep commitments to Israel made as recently as the better part of a decade ago and now the official US policy is to dictate the outcome of future negotiations, if they ever take place, in advance, to Israel’s detriment. Silly me. Here I thought that negotiations were supposed to settle differences without prejudging the final outcome.

The President’s remarks also contradict UN resolution 242. It neither speaks of a Palestinian state or of the 1967 borders. As people have noted, Obama is not just throwing Israel metaphorically under the bus. He is also doing the same thing to America’s Arab allies. So America’s friends in the Middle East have to wonder what side America is on.

And all this passion for the Palestinian Arabs is held despite the fact they are the biggest admirers of Bin Laden and back Al Qaeda, Hezbollah and Hamas enthusiastically. No other group of Middle East Arabs comes close. A Palestinian state would be run by HAMAS and the Muslim Brotherhood. The short-sighted West, in asking Israel to dig its own grave, in reality, is digging its own.

There is no Palestinian peace partner and extremism is on the rise throughout the Middle East. Countries like Egypt and Tunisia may soon get democratically elected Islamist governments and others may soon follow. To ask Israel to part with strategically vital land makes no sense in a dangerous world.

NormanF on May 20, 2011 at 4:38 pm

The so-called “Palestinian Territories” are not occupied by Israel. There are several other equally valid reasons that stem from Israel’s inherent legal right to security and self-defense.

International law is not a suicide pact. Because a Palestinian Arab state would severely threaten the very existence of Israel – a fact that remains altogether unhidden in Arab media and governments – the Jewish State is under no binding obligation to end a falsely alleged “Occupation.” No state can ever be required to accept complicity in its own dismemberment and annihilation. Neither Jerusalem nor Washington should be deceived by the so-called “Road Map to peace in the Middle East,” a distorted bit of highway that makes entirely inaccurate claims about “Palestinian Territories” and “Israeli Occupation.”

In urgent matters of national survival and geopolitics, words matter. The still generally unchallenged language referring provocatively to an Israeli “Occupation” always overlooks the pertinent and incontestable history of the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza.

Perhaps the most evident omission concerns the unwitting manner in which these “Territories” fell into Israel’s hands in the first place. It is simply and widely disregarded that “occupation” followed the multi-state Arab aggression of 1967 – one never disguised by Egypt, Syria or Jordan. A sovereign state of “Palestine” did not exist before 1967 or 1948. Nor was a state of “Palestine” ever promised by UN Security Council Resolution 242. Contrary to popular understanding, a state of “Palestine” has never existed. Never. Even as a non-state legal entity, “Palestine” ceased to exist in 1948, when Great Britain relinquished its League of Nations mandate. During the 1948-49 Israeli War of Independence (a war of survival fought because the entire Arab world had rejected the authoritative United Nations recommendation to create a Jewish state), the West Bank and Gaza came under the illegal control of Jordan and Egypt respectively. These Arab conquests did not put an end to an already-existing state or to an ongoing trust territory. What these aggressions did accomplish was the effective prevention, of a state of “Palestine.”

For substantially documented reasons of history and national security, it is imperative that a twenty-second Arab state never be carved out of the still-living body of Israel. If anyone should still have doubts about Palestinian Arabs’ intentions, they need look only to former Prime Minister Sharon’s “disengagement” from Gaza, an area that is now used by Hamas to stage rocket attacks upon Israeli noncombatants, and by al-Qaeda to mount future terrorist operations against American cities.

NancyB on May 20, 2011 at 10:33 pm

Resolution 194, adopted by the UN General Assembly on December 11, 1948, addressed a host of issues, but only one paragraph out of 15 dealt with refugees created by the conflict.
Resolution 194 attempted to create the tools required to reach a truce in the region. It established a conciliation commission with representatives from the United States, France and Turkey to replace the UN mediator. The commission was charged with achieving “a final settlement of all questions between … governments and authorities concerned.” The Resolution’s “refugee clause” is not a standalone item, as the Arabs would have us think, nor does it pertain specifically to Palestinian Arab refugees.

Of the 15 paragraphs, the first six sections addressed ways to achieve a truce; the next four paragraphs addressed the ways that Jerusalem and surrounding villages and towns should be demilitarized, and how an international zone or jurisdiction would be created in and around Jerusalem. The resolution also called on all parties to protect and allow free access to holy places, including religious buildings.

One paragraph has drawn the most attention: Paragraph 11, which alone addressed the issue of refugees and compensation for those whose property was lost or damaged. Contrary to Arab claims, it did not guarantee a Right of Return and certainly did not guarantee an unconditional Right of Return – that is the right of Palestinian Arab refugees to return to Israel. Nor did it specifically mention Arab refugees, thereby indicating that the resolution was aimed at all refugees, both Jewish and Arab. Instead, Resolution 194 recommended that refugees be allowed to return to their homeland if they met two important conditions:

1 That they be willing to live in peace with their neighbors
2 That the return takes place “at the earliest practicable date”

The resolution also recommended that for those who did not wish to return, “Compensation should be paid for the property … and for loss of or damage to property” by the “governments or authorities responsible.”

Although Arab leaders point to Resolution 194 as proof that Arab refugees have a right to return or be compensated, it is important to note that the Arab States: Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen voted against Resolution 194. Israel is not even mentioned in the resolution. The fact that plural wording also is used – “governments or authorities” – suggests that, contrary to Arab claims, the burden of compensation does not fall solely upon one side of the conflict. Because seven Arab armies invaded Israel, Israel was not responsible for creating the refugee problem. When hundreds of thousands of Arab Jews, under threat of death, attack and other forms of persecution, were forced to flee Arab communities, the State of Israel absorbed the overwhelming majority of them into the then-fledgling nation.

How about the forgotten Jewish Refugees? Israel has failed to raise the issue of the mammoth injustice done to almost a million Jews from Arab countries. The scale and the premeditated state-sponsored nature of persecution that prompted the 1948 flight of close to 900,000 Jews from their homes has only recently begun to emerge. Arabs have sought to detach entirely the flight of Jews from Arab lands from the Arab-Israeli conflict, claiming they are two separate phenomena, and that Israelis should take up the issue with each respective Arab state that was involved, not with the Palestinians.

This is a clear attempt to rewrite history. One only needs to reexamine the almost prophetic article in The New York Times two days after Israel declared independence (“Jews in Grave Danger in all Moslem Lands”) to confirm the tie. The New York Times reported on May 16, 1948:

“For nearly four months, the United Nations has had before it, an appeal for ‘immediate and urgent’ consideration of the case of the Jewish populations in Arab and Moslem countries stretching from Morocco to India.”

The New York Times country-by-country table estimated the Jewish population-at-risk as 899,000 souls. The article cited the dismissal of Jews in the civil service in Syria, per capita ransom payment of $20,000 by Iraqi Jews seeking to leave Iraq, a forced levy on the Lebanese Jewish community to support the Arab war effort parallel to incitement and physical attacks on Jews, and Jews fleeing to India from Afghanistan. It quoted the UN Economic and Social Council report as saying:

“The very survival of the Jewish communities in certain Arab and Moslem countries is in serious danger, unless preventive action is taken without delay.”

Hostility and oppression only grew, ultimately leading to the exodus of almost all Jews from all Arab and Moslem countries from Casablanca to Karachi.

It is important to set the historical record straight: The overwhelming majority of Palestinian refugees left what was then the newly-established State of Israel on their own accord due to structural weaknesses within Palestinian society and their leadership.

The pressure of wartime conditions triggered the collapse of what was already a fragile Palestinian society, particularly when Palestinian leaders chose to oppose the Jewish state by a show of arms rather than by accepting a UN plan for their own state. Those events set the stage for the forceful expulsion of countless other Palestinian Arabs from Jewish-held areas. That military necessity resulted after seven Arab armies invaded western Palestine with the goal of exterminating the newly born State of Israel.

On their own accord, an estimated 600,000 Palestinian Arabs fled a war zone, which their leaders had created. An estimated 250,000 to 300,000 of those refugees in 1948 left even before their homes became part of a war zone.
The human tragedy of being uprooted notwithstanding, Palestinian refugees were neither hapless targets nor innocent bystanders. The first stage of the 1948 war was a fierce interethnic or anti-Zionist civil war in which Palestinians were the aggressors and the initiators; the second half was an all-out war involving regular Arab armies, whose participation the Palestinian Arabs engineered.
The violent path that Palestinians chose – and the ensuing fear, disorientation, and economic deprivation of war – led to their own collective undoing.

NancyB on May 20, 2011 at 11:06 pm

Dissenting vote here but…
Has anyone considered Obama is just doing diplomatic BS. No one will ever agree to going back to ’67 borders. No Way, No How. The Israeli’s are not going to give back the lands period! Just stupid toothless platitudes to keep the diplomatic game going. Mark my words. This will not happen. Obama is a centrist and always will be. He told that to everyone up front. Hate him for whatever “betrayals” you perceive but he told everyone up front. He’ll negotiate and talk and on and on. That’s all this is. Israel will not do this!!!

Anonymous on May 21, 2011 at 9:24 am

He won’t go back beyond Aug 4, 1961. Otherwise that ‘BC’ is no good at all.

COCOJO on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 pm

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