September 12, 2011, - 1:41 pm

Media Blackout: YES, the Suspicious Dry Run Passengers on Frontier Flight Were . . . (DRUM ROLL) ARABS

By Debbie Schlussel

There’s been much mainstream media hype that passengers and crew “overreacted” to three fellow passengers who spent a long time in the bathrooms, yesterday, on Frontier Airlines Flight 623 from San Diego to Detroit (with a stop in Denver).  But it’s much more than “overreaction.” And it wasn’t a “make-out session” or sexual encounter as ABC News initially reported and later admitted was false (the FBI claims that no two people were in the bathroom at the same time are contradicted by passengers–see below).


In fact, what the media won’t tell you is that the three passengers in question were Arabs, two men and a woman (who, some reports say, wore a hijab–the Muslim headscarf for women).  The three Muslim passengers got up at the same time, with two of them going into the bathroom at the rear of the plane and one of them going into the bathroom closer to the front of the plane.  All three spent a very long time in bathrooms.  An “extraordinarily long time” in the words of the captain and crew, who reported this to authorities, the reason the plane was met with a platoon of cops after it was diverted to an isolated area of the airport upon landing.

How do I know all of this?  Well, not from any mainstream media reports, which have shielded the “real victims of 9/11”–Muslims–from any mention in coverage of what happened on the Frontier plane.  But, this morning, passenger named Patrick Pasfield was on popular Detroit morning radio show, “Drew and Mike.”  He gave the details, as the Arab passengers were sitting not far behind him.  When host Drew Lane asked him, “What did the passengers look like?,” Pasfield immediately responded, “they were Arabs.”

It’s doubly suspicious that three passengers on a flight from Los Angeles to New York engaged in the exact same pattern of behavior, with frequent and long trips to the bathroom.  What are their names?  Ahmed, Mohammed, and Hamida?  And watch this video, below, of what the passengers described–very suspicous behavior, indeed.

This isn’t the first time several Muslim passengers went to the bathroom at the same time in a terrorist dry run.  We know that not long after the 9/11 attacks, a Northwest Airlines plane from Detroit carried several Syrian Muslim men who did the same thing.  One of them was a known terrorist, and the Department of Homeland Security report from the investigation is so redacted, it’s clear something scary was going on that the government doesn’t want you to know about, lest you face the truth about Flying While Non-Muslim when there are Muslims on your plane.

So, you tell me what else could possibly be going on here, other than a dry run or “probing the system” for a terrorist attack.  Three Arabs go to the bathroom at the same time (two of them in one bathroom at a time–and not to have sex, because, hey, this is the virginal “Religion of Modesty,” right?).  They occupy both bathrooms on opposite ends of the plane.  They spend a long time in the bathrooms.  A very long time.  And they do it on the tenth anniversary of their religion’s attack on America using planes.

They know better.  They did this deliberately.  And they are cold and calculating.  They are at war against us.  We are at  . . . the mall and on the couch watching “E! True Hollywood Story” (or the Kim Kardashian multi-millionairess porn-star-in-white wedding).

But, no worries, because Famous But Incompetent said they are innocent and were released without charges.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they are being followed, now that they’ve been released.  But I would be even less surprised if they were not being followed, and their names were entered into some meaningless FBI circular file, never to be shared with another agency or investigating member of law enforcement again.  That’s the usual drill, ten years after 9/11.

Nothing to see here.  Move along.

By the way, as you may recall, after the Undiebomeber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, failed in his mission to blow up a plane, there was another suspicious passenger from Nigeria on the same flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, two days later.  The FBI told us that this was just an innocent businessman and nothing to worry about (even though he had no luggage and only a one-way ticket).  I know for a fact that intelligence reports revealed the man was followed, after he told authorities he was just here on a business trip and to see friends and relatives.  The reports also revealed that the man lied (shocker!) and instead, traveled to a mosque in Washington, DC.  But, no worries, authorities stopped following him after that.  No biggie that he lied and acted suspiciously.  We’ll worry about it when more Americans are blown up.

Or maybe not then, either.

83 Responses

Debbie you are a real cutie. I avoid airplanes like the plague partly due to our PC “security” but I’d fly up to see you. Just for a nosh of course.

A1 on September 12, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    A1, I hope Debbie finds this kind of comment cute, because you are constantly making it.

    skzion on September 12, 2011 at 8:00 pm

I had guessed they were Arabs. But then, Arabs always go to the bathroom together, right? right?

Let’s start a betting pool as to when the next terrorist attack will be.

Jonathan E. Grant on September 12, 2011 at 2:21 pm

I am wondering about two things:

1) How soon until the dry runs end and they have the information they need to pull of the real thing. I fear that day is near if not already here.

2) Maybe these are not dry runs but are in fact the real thing. I am thinking that they have pre-determined conditions to pull something off and it was decided at the end that the conditions were not exactly to their liking so they called of the attack.

I_AM_ME on September 12, 2011 at 2:32 pm

I thought muslims don’t like western toilets?

ari-free on September 12, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Some appropriate in-flight muzak…

Crombouke on September 12, 2011 at 2:42 pm

I flew El Al on a trip to Israel this past January. Their airport and airline security was both subtle and masterful, and transparent enough that if you’re looking for it, you’ll see exactly what they’re doing, and understand that it would be really impossible to beat.

I got to Ben Gurion airport, and onto one of the security lines – no “skycap” curbside luggage checking – all of my things were still with me. Walking from front-to-back through the line were two uniformed El Al personnel, who were asking to see ID, asking “standard” questions about luggage (“have you had them with you since you packed them”, etc), and a few simple questions about peoples’ trips (“where are you going,” “how long were you in Israel,” etc). During this, I noticed several cameras looking at the line from the ceiling/walls, moving slowly through (I’d guess zooming in on each person while actual people (not computers) were giving a look at everyone.

When they got to me, they asked me the standard questions, put a sticker on the back of my passport and wrote a few letters and numbers (I’d imagine a daily code or somesuch), and then the guy asked me “Sir, not trying to be offensive, but I notice that you’re sweating quite a bit…” (I was). I mentioned that I came from Chicago where it was about -5 (C) and the temperatures in Israel were higher than what I was used to. He tilted his head at me and I simplified: “It’s hot and I’m fat.” He chuckled a bit, handed me back my passport, and wished me a safe flight.

Simple. Human. Intelligence. Three things the US system doesn’t like to rely on. It’s all technology and procedure, rather than keeping things simple, human, and intelligent.

But that was only when I first got to the airport! At the front of the line I put all my luggage through a scanner as the security agent put a number on the sticker on my passport, and asked me specifically which bags I was checking, and tagged them. After looking at my ID, she sent me on to the ticketing counter area, where the agent asked for my ID before anything else, *then* took my checked bags and gave me a boarding pass.

To leave the ticketing area, I showed my ID and ticket to one more person, who just confirmed my face matched, and let me through.

Next was a metal detector (and more cameras), but *much* different than the US. No taking off belts or shoes – I showed my ID and ticket. Oh yea, no liquid restrictions either. My bag went through, and after it came out the guard asked if I had liquid in it. I said yes, I had a bottle of diet coke in my backpack. He asked if he could see it. I showed it to him, he took a look at it for like 10 seconds, then handed it to me and wished me a safe flight.

When I got on line initially there were probably 200 people in line in front of me – the whole security process took about 30-40 minutes, and I had been screened, questioned, ID checked, and watched on camera. I went through to the main body of the airport feeling *very* safe, and yet not offended by any of the questions.

Even when I was flying to Israel, the questions all made sense – “why are you going to Israel?” “Student research.” “What kind? Do you have a scientist or school contact in Israel?” “Yes, Dr. _____ at the GSI.” “Thank you, have a safe flight.” All common sense questions. I saw one person, about my age, who apparently had something odd with his ID or his answers, so the El Al person who asked him questions took his ID to a supervisor, who came over and asked more questions, and then they let him through. It was obvious the supervisors were more seasoned, but even more obvious that the initial-level questioners were trained as to what prompted them getting a second opinion, and what didn’t. The whole system was smooth.

On board the plane, one of the crew didn’t do much food/drink/customer service, but kind of helped out other people in the crew, but spent lots of time on the flight in a little room in the back of the plane – it wouldn’t surprise me if there were cameras in there, or even a small arms locker.

Either way – I felt *Very* safe… right up until I changed terminals heading home in London, and went through British/US security, which only made me feel like I was being hassled for no real reason.

I have no problem with racial profiling – is it “politically correct” – nope. Should that influence our security measures to prevent another 9/11? Hell no.

There are, maybe at most, 10% of your posts I don’t agree with Debbie, but on most of them, especially this one, you are *Spot* on.

Mike on September 12, 2011 at 2:55 pm


skzion on September 12, 2011 at 2:57 pm

I’ve been wondering why it is that they often go to the restroom. This has happened over and over on these dry runs. A suppose they could light a fuse there. The smoke detector would go off but by the time anyone got inside the restroom, it would be too late.

Also possible they could assemble some sort of weapon in the bathroom from seemingly innocuous parts. That might take awhile, which might explain why they stay in the bathroom for an extended period. They might be timing how long it is before the flight crew and/or passengers take notice. Of course, why would they wear Muslim garb if this was the goal?

It’s almost as if these dry runs are coordinated in some way, that these are foot soldiers carry-out some task given to them by higher-ups.

adam on September 12, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Maybe they were shocked by the running water and that they didn’t have to squat over a hole in the middle of their living room?

RichieRich on September 12, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Let me paint a scenario.

The ground crew (contract help) that cleans toilets, loads bad food on planes, etc. goes through little if any security. A person goes on board to service the toilet. He (or she) unscrews a panel, and inserts parts that could be assembled for an explosive. The parts are discrete, and, individually, would escape detection.

In flight, the Arab terrorists go to the restroom. They find a hidden screwdriver, remove the panel in the bathroom, and assemble the explosives or device to bring down the plane. Could even be a hidden knife in the compartment.

This scenario will be played out unless we wise up.

Jonathan E. Grant on September 12, 2011 at 3:56 pm

I knew it was not a likely inaugural meeting of the IMHC (Islamic Mile High Club). This shit is never ending – we’re expected to accept these incidents like they are mosquito bites.

Not Ovenready on September 12, 2011 at 3:59 pm

I believe the intent of these terrorists was to occupy the rest rooms for a long enough time that passengers are forced to urinate in their plastic drink cups. Very clever. Debbie, as usual you are doing us patriots a great service by protecting us form urine based acts of Jihadi terror.

Wilson Pickle on September 12, 2011 at 4:13 pm

A coincidence that three Muslims get up at the same time to go to the bathroom to tidy up for a long time? That’s about as much as a “coincidence” as two dozen black urban youths who just happen to enter a convenience store at the same time, and march, single file, to do some emergency late-night “shopping.”

Thank heaven for racial profiling.

Seek on September 12, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Debbie, were you surprised that the news media did not mention what nationality/religious group these “passengers” were? (Just a rhetorical question since I know better than to question you.) After watching (not by choice) NBC’s 9/11 broadcast yesterday morning, they did not mention who flew the planes into the WTC buildings. In addition, they showed less than a second of Tower 2 being destroyed. I couldn’t take any more of NBC’s dribble after that and did not watch the rest of their “program”. Maybe NBC really thinks that what had happened on that day was “an accident” just like what it is being called in many of today’s schoolbooks.

Pats on September 12, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Welcome to Detroitistan…halal food and clueless authorities!

cirrus1701 on September 12, 2011 at 5:15 pm

One well-known place of concealment is the paper towel dispensers and other such locations in the bathroom of the airplane.

There was a story about a kid who reported it to the airlines and the FAA several times, got no action, and then hid some things there himself with a note saying, “Here it is, call me,” and it was only found when he himself alerted the FAA and told them where to look and to close the security hole.

The kid was arrested, of course.

luagha on September 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm

Hey Guys:

Next time this same activity happens, Arabs/Muslims going to the bathroom together or occupying bathrooms at the same time, take your Howie Long pills and prevent them from going. If they resist, put a little whoop-ass on them, just to remind them that they are in America, “Land of the free and home of the brave”. If lesbo Janet won’t stop the activity, it’s up to you. This suggestion comes from someone who refuses to fly, for obvious reasons!!!

St. Stephen on September 12, 2011 at 7:09 pm

This administration committed the Fast and Furious deadly felony. It will do anything.

samurai on September 12, 2011 at 7:45 pm

Debbie, YNet is reporting that two of the guys were Israelis, and one was Russian, on American, Flight 34.

Susuu on September 12, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Kind of like when Muslim terrorists living in Northern Virginia get caught, they are suddenly “Virginians”–as if the media hopes that clueless Americans will think they are as American as apple pie. Never any mention of their religion, or the fact that Muslims have no loyalty to any countries not under sharia law.

    JM on September 12, 2011 at 9:44 pm

Sorry, I forgot to include the link for my last message.,7340,L-4121416,00.html

Susuu on September 12, 2011 at 8:34 pm

DS: “So, you tell me what else could possibly be going on here, other than a dry run or ‘probing the system’ for a terrorist attack.”

ME: This was a poke-in-the-eye, F.U., we can get away with it and we did run.

ME: The jihad has exceptional allies; I mean that in the full military sense.

See what Forever Beholden to Islam Seattle agents Brenda Wilson and Daniel Guerrero were doing mere HOURS before 9/11 + 10. Read it and know why the jihad is considerably more entrenched now than 9/11/2001.

That moaning sound you hear is the agony of 3000 – many of whom don’t even have a grave.

L.M. Standing on September 12, 2011 at 9:31 pm

susuuu noo they are muslim hehe

wake up people

btw im superman lol

brenda on September 12, 2011 at 9:34 pm

Mike, your post was intriguing!

Welcome to USA…where the Liberals have put us in a virtual Hannibal Lechter PC contraption.

And it’s now September 12th…and all the 9/11 footage has been re-vaulted…and if you want to see it you better have a good reason…because access is not easy.

Skunky on September 12, 2011 at 11:21 pm

Actually it was two Indian guys and a Jewish woman who did not know each other. She tweeted about it once the plane landed.

Nak on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Indian MUSLIMS, Mohammed, I mean Nak?

    skzion on September 13, 2011 at 11:24 am

Must be the halal food just running right thru them. Bacon will cure that problem.

Just take the opportunity to lock them in, hit some heavy “turbulence”, then wake them up and let them out after landing.

Ender on September 12, 2011 at 11:41 pm

Dhimmis and Moooslim swine. DS is NOT gonna post a truth without knowing her facts, so stop it.

You’re real problem is WHY you want to work double-time NOT accepting FACTS!!!!

Skunky on September 12, 2011 at 11:44 pm

I know why they spent soo much time in the toilet…………..them’s were shiite muslims!!!

Rasmus DelGado on September 13, 2011 at 4:23 am

Two Indians and a half-Jewish housewife, none of them knew each other.

Bleugh on September 13, 2011 at 4:57 am

This wouldn’t have happened if you voted for Nader.

Blizzmaster Pilch on September 13, 2011 at 5:37 am

    Then Nader would be president now, right Blizz..?

    shegundala on September 13, 2011 at 9:42 am

Maybe these people where constipated and that took them so long to go to the bathroom?
So they were arabs, why is that even relevant? I am sure the woman would have never gone trough security if a bomb was hidden underneath her hijab. It can conceal a bomb in theory but so could the big hat of an orthodox jew. And a bomb on the plane would not be of much use, the plane is most effective if it is flown into a building, as well all know.

People are now suspicious of muslims and arabs but ONLY of muslims and arabs. That gives christian-zionist freaks like Breivik much room for their actions.

Simone R. on September 13, 2011 at 5:58 am

All these stupid comments about Indians and 1/2 Arabs.

Anyone with a brain knows that many Indians are Muslim so saying that they are Indian is more obfuscation baloney.

If a woman is 1/2 Israeli and 1/2 Arab, the Arab dominates.

All the foolish excuse makers ignore the fact that these people were in the bathroom for an inordinate amount of time and in a coordinated fashion. They want you to ignore everything so the next time there is a real attempt you will be too embarrassed to do anything.

The goal of all these false runs and all the Leftist loon commentary is to weaken us. We should stand guard and put these fools down and subject them to humiliating and harsh investigation to put an end to this vile activity.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 9:03 am

I say if you go to a U.S. airport wearing your terrorist wannabe garb, you should get subjected to triple the screenings that everyone else gets. And if you want to wear it on the plane, no problem. You then get issued adult diapers and you get duct taped to your seat. i

Jarhead on September 13, 2011 at 9:13 am

Simone R,

Considering that 17,000 attacks have been done by Muslims and 1 by a Brevik, any rational being would pay attention to the Muzzies and not the other true tiny minority.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 9:17 am


Yes, Leftist Gawker is a really good source /not.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 9:19 am

So you think Muslim when talking about an Indian even though the majority of Indians are Hindu? By that logic some white people are Muslim, therefore we must be cautious of white people on planes. The crime seems to be these people flew while brown.

Nak on September 13, 2011 at 9:28 am

    BY NAK (“Ack!”)

    “By that logic some white people are Muslim, therefore we must be cautious of white people on planes. The crime seems to be these people flew while brown.”

    BY SIMONE (Who has a severe brain injury)

    “So they were arabs, why is that even relevant?…People are now suspicious of muslims and arabs but ONLY of muslims and arabs. That gives christian-zionist freaks like Breivik much room for their actions.”

    OUR OPPOSITION IS IMPERVIOUS TO FACTS. I think we should just point and laugh at them because there is no cure for the stupid when they CRAVE to be stupid.

    Never forget that sometimes, just sometimes…the tree just LOVES the ax.

    Skunky on September 13, 2011 at 10:13 am

Palsfield said they were Arabs. How do you know that he said that because they were brown?

Arabs are the ones that engage in this suspicious type of behavior on flights.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 9:40 am

Hey Nak, thanks for the muzzie perspective.

Here’s the way most people with common sense see this. During Ramadan this year, the Religion of Pieces served up over 2,000 dead or critically injured bodies. How many of those hajis were white amish grandmas? It makes a lot of sense to racially profile.

Jarhead on September 13, 2011 at 10:10 am

Don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative that Teh EVul Moooslimmmzz are going to blow you up.
Lighten up Francis. Someone freaked out when they saw brown people on their flight on the anniversary of 9/11. That is the story. There was no dry run nor was there suspicious behavior. After a humiliating experience, all three were released with apologies from the LEOs who responded. It is articles like this that make others more paranoid about Teh Mooslimz on their flights, feeding feeding a vicious cycle where nothing happens except over-reactions, diverted flights, huge expenses, and wastes of manpower for those who are forced to respond to these inane calls. How many times do we collectively cry wolf before everyone stops caring about these threats?

NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 10:17 am


Your arguments would make sense if you stopped making up stories. No one denied that fact that they all went to the bathroom together and spent an inordinate amount of time there except for the reality denying Leftist press and their ultra liberal toadies.

When you live in a bad neighborhood such as one that had a person with a shoe bomb and people like Abdulmutallab, you tend to be suspicious and if your not you are a deluded fool and they’ve got your number.

If the TSA would do profiling like the Israelis instead of giving a free pass to every brown person, there would be a reason to relax. In the current environment, ignoring our self declared enemies is insane and suicidal.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 10:48 am

While the initial and sketchy reports mention that all three went to the bathroom together, those reports have all been determined as false. Even the FBI says it didn’t happen. Never did any of the three get into one of the lavatories at the same time. Never did any two of the three get into one lavatory at the same time. Like I said before, don’t let the facts get in the way of your terrorist narrative.
This was an over-reaction due to all of the 9/11 anniversary hype going on this weekend. There were dozens of incidences of suspicious activity and packages shutting down airports, diverting flights, and clearing out neighborhoods in small cities across the country. None of these suspicious activities nor devices were threats of any sort, just paranoia writ large on the nation.
Ms Schlussel’s article is a prime example of the fear-mongering that makes situations like this all too common.

NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 11:16 am

“one denied that fact that they all went to the bathroom together and spent an inordinate amount of time there” except for the FBI and all government sources.

The confirmed facts are only two people used the bathroom at different times. The three were two people of Indian decent and one half-Jewish half-arab women, none of whom knew each other.

I assume you will write a retraction based on the facts. Actually I know you won’t because hate and fear is what’s important.

sadfearmongering on September 13, 2011 at 11:24 am

Imagine a scenario where three young white males who are complete strangers to each other are sharing a row of seats, one of them has a Gadsden flag patch sewn to his carry-on. Halfway through the flight some idiot with an ax to grind with the Tea Party notifies the flight crew that the three men are plotting to hijack the plane. When the flight lands at its destination or gets diverted to some podunk airport and the authorities arrive with big guns, handcuff them, and take them away, would you say, Hey this was a dry run! or They were asking for it? What about the fact-free news stories that run in the immediate aftermath, would you take them with a grain of salt or believe whole-heartedly that they were in fact domestic terrorists on a dry-run after they were found to do nothing wrong?

NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 11:28 am

In addition to profiling Israeli style (which goes well beyond “is he brown”), we should minimize the need by preventing further Muslim immigration, and rolling back Islam in this country. It would be simple enough under RICO to destroy the whole system of mosques in this country.

But just as important: we have to show our loathing for Islam and its defenders. Muslims should be offended regularly. They should be “driven” to violence and then arrested, convicted, and thrown into the slammer. In other words, the way to deal with Islam is to be an anti-dhimmi.

skzion on September 13, 2011 at 11:31 am

And again today:

Once is an incident.
Twice a coincidence.
Three times is enemy action.

HL on September 13, 2011 at 11:50 am

    your math is wrong.

    NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 11:55 am


Do you mean the same FBI, news media and authorities that declared that Nidal Hassan wasn’t a terrorist? Perhaps you mean the same responsible authorities that said that the LAX July 4th attack wasn’t terrorism until a year later.

I’d rather be safe and fear mongering than denying reality and facilitating terrorist activities.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 12:07 pm

Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-Ben Franlin

NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    NotParanoid really is an ignoramus, isn’t he? Franklin and Jefferson would have prevented the Muslims from arriving here in the first place. The non-Muslim citizens of the US are the ones whose liberty is at stake.

    skzion on September 13, 2011 at 2:10 pm


What essential liberty is being lost here?

These people were checked because of the reporting of the flight crew. Were the flight crew members all bigots or delusional?

I guess you don’t fly because you would never give up your right not to be frisked or X-rayed unless of course you go along with the paranoia of checking passengers.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 12:23 pm

So you’re ok with people being handcuffed and frogmarched off of a plane to be stripsearched and interrogated because some jackass got scared of the brown people on his flight? Sounds like freedom to me.

NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Poor NotParanoid! The reason “brown people” are given scrutiny (not that they are, mind you, especially when they wear Muslim garb) is that we have Muslims in this country.

    skzion on September 13, 2011 at 2:15 pm

Apparently you believe that one person’s complaint caused the entire flight crew to go ballistic.

That doesn’t sound reasonable to me. They would be open to all sorts of lawsuits.

The strange behavior was witnessed by the competent flight crew and they responded appropriately except that they shouldn’t have apologized for their rightful investigation.

Facts Life on September 13, 2011 at 12:39 pm

What strange behavior? Going to the bathroom? How long is too long in the john? I’ve been known to spend a good half-hour or more in there. If I do that on a plane, am I a suspected terrorist doing a ‘dry-run’ to see how long it takes for people to freak out over my excessive time in there?
If this had been any other weekend and had the media and the Gov’t not been hyping up the ‘credible’ non-threat, nothing would have happened.
You’re seeing bogeymen in the closet when it’s just a coat on a hanger in the dark.

NotParanoidLikeYou on September 13, 2011 at 12:46 pm

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